Listening again, Mike nailed it." When he went independent, the dominos started to fall quickly." True, go back and look at how much they F'D with Robby Gordon when he went independent. 🤔
Right on. I recall a race at Bristol when Robby's car wouldn't start for qualifying, and had no choice but to withdraw. This was the first year for EFI. Dodge only had 3 or 4 cars in the field by this point, and the McLaren group went running for cover with no comment. There's no way foul play wasn't involved there.
@@ScottXC91 nah he still looks at nascar as a revenue source and may eventually have a cup team or two so he isn’t actually ever going to speak against nascar when it comes to this
Dale Jr has done a phenomenal job with his Podcast. The truth is what matters to Dale. Folks have no idea how much of an impact Dale Jr has in every aspect of the sport!!
Jr. Has had no affect on nascar today except show how not to be a nascar driver as bad as Jr was and is. Jr. Has done nothing but such tail with nascar
@@youfillmylifewithjello6661 FYI, NASCAR is a privately owned corporation with the France family being the majority stock owners since NASCAR was founded in 1948.
You know, I came into this with an open mind. I remember all this going down with JM and honestly thought he probably did it if Nascar's testing policy says he did. Then, as time went on, I got a little more skeptical. I've got family on my wife's side that has dealt with meth over and over. One thing I will say, the recidivism rate for meth is extremely high, something like 96% meaning only 4% of people ever get off it which is why I think it's our biggest threat as a society in terms of drug use. If JM was really using meth, there would've been other signs and just physical appearance changes that go along with meth use. I'm not talking about meth mouth necessarily, but they just don't look healthy and you can tell there's something off about them. JM never gave that impression off and for all intents and purposes, looks the same today as he did then just a little more years. He doesn't talk like someone who's been on meth and certainly doesn't look the part. My problem with the whole thing was what he said about having little baggies in his safe for his coins, those are called coin sleeves and completely different than baggies. Overall, the whole Red Dawn on his property just doesn't sit well with me nor his explanation of why it happened. I guess you could say that I'm no more convinced that he did do it or that he didn't do it than I was. His story is far fetched but believable in a way. I will say he either the most stubborn man to ever walk this earth and admit his guilt or he's 100% telling the truth. Your name and reputation is all you really have on this earth and if I was accused of something I didn't do, I'd probably be just as hard headed as JM is about the whole thing. The true hero in this story is his wife for sticking by him which also leads me to believe that he just might be telling the truth. If he really was using meth, I can't imagine his wife sitting idly by and letting everything they've accumulated together be taken from her.
Any smart meth user/seller knows keep the drugs buried on the property. Especially if the heat is on.. that’s all I got to say. Also you don’t open a safe for cops if you have contraband In it, you make them find it
Really enjoyed this podcast. Took guts to have him on. Bad choices by Jeremy. Flaws in everybody. But when someone is label a drug addict and he truly is not . Still the question to be answered. My guts telling me he is not to the degree nascar calm. Truly believe he was made a example of what can happen when powerful people decide to take you out . Thanks for having him on . Could tell y'all enjoyed it too. Somethings we may never know for definite.
Don't forget he tested positive for amphetamines, Sudafed over the counter will give you a positive test result. They fkd over tim Richmond in the 80s the same way. Nascar doesn't get the benefit of doubt in this one for me
I'm a Dale Jr. fan, but I know this show is not allowed to say anything too bad about Nascar. We're probably not going to get his and Mike's honest opinions on air.
Same. I don't even watch or keep up with it anymore. Nascar has become trash. Dirty dickheads get away with slaps on wrist. Good decent drivers get shafted one way or another.
Awesome interview! I am a Firm believer that Nascar was out for Jeremy. You have to remember back in that time Nascar actually thought they were god!! Jeremy could have definitely done different but you have to remember Jeremy actually thought he was still a Superstar back then and thought he could get away with anything! I say its just two hardheads going at it..
I've known Jeremy since high school, didn't always get along or agree with him, he said a lot of things in his Nascar career that really didn't help his position! But he was a great driver! And I never knew him to be a liar
I’ve suspected for years that NASCAR wanted JM to just go away quietly, and he refused to allow upper management to “screw him without kissing him first.” It’s really sad that they eventually got their way…
I think Dr Black and Brian France did all the wrong, NASCAR played dumb, Jeremy's not perfect, but nobody is it could have been handled much better. Thanks Dale, good job. 🏁
everyone was in the wrong.. NASCAR knee jerk reacted to the media pressure to implement a drug testing system. instead of spending the time researching into the companies/services available to them they immediately went with the cheapest option. as much as i want to blame Brian, a lot of the blame rests on the people around him that were more worried about getting a promotion or bonus then actually doing the right thing for the drivers, sport, and fans. and no i'm not going to defend Mayfield either, whether or not he had a drug problem doesn't excuse him for the positions he put himself in to get to this point.
I've never been a fan of NASCAR, maybe a "casual fan" at best. But I cannot get enough of these podcasts!!! Very entertaining to hear the stories and thoughts from the other side. Very good show
That whole team blew up because of that affair. Definitely lots of "blame" to throw around and a bunch got thrown back at Jeremy because his frustration with the team's performance caused him to publicly expose something that wasn't "meant" to be
@@budtate401 I wouldn't say a promoter but will say he is careful with his words and rightly so. He wants NASCAR to be great, lots of people can benefit. Smart & caring people don't poop where they eat. His father was the same way, willing to call out the powers to be but knew exactly where the line was.
I noticed these two Mayfield videos may be Dale's largest viewed on this channel. People want to know why Mayfield took on NASCAR where most who tested positive chose to do the steps then get back to racing (i.e. AJ Almendinger, Spencer Gallagher, etc.). NASCAR made an example out of him fighting back (David vs Golliath). Mike is right, lots of wrongs on both sides.
Sounds like NASCAR wanted Claritin’s money for sponsorships and would be an issue if it was a banned substance. I think Mayfield knew what was going on and wanted to challenge the NASCAR ecosystem. Something smells dangerously fishy all the way around.
NASCAR is a scripted business, much like “Pro”Wrestling. I am baffled that anyone watches NASCAR, especially after corruption like this is found. Sure, no one is innocent here. However NASCAR is a powerful organization that is willing to scalp fans on ticket prices, enforce false morality (drug testing), and hammer anyone who questions the brand. The difference between Mayfield and NASCAR is that NASCAR has power. I have never watched a full NASCAR race and read a lot after stumbling on this interview. I will never watch NASCAR after reading about this and the organization.
He had a damn prescription for Adderall which is Dr confirmed but nascar didn’t give two shits about that. It was a scandal for ratings, simple. That test wouldn’t have stood up in any other industry. NASCAR railroaded mayfield over his comments and their bad ratings
Always a great podcast , always liked Mayfield too . You gotta think Dale can't say everything he honestly believes in , especially if it makes nascar look bad , I mean he does have Jr. Motorsports who races within the rules of nascar , and he actually makes money from owning his teams in nascar ( mostly sponsor money for Dale himself, and the invidual sponsors on the teams cars ) . I really believe if Dale didn't have anything at all to do with nascar , he would say whatever he really wanted to say ... There's no way to be 110% sure exactly what happened to Mayfield, or what he did , but I can appreciate him coming on the show and telling his side , and hopefully he can build a career that he enjoyes in life ...
Really enjoyed the Mayfield podcast. One of my favorites. But we all need to come to grips with the reality that Dale Jr, in his position as a brand ambassador for NBC, can't paint Nascar in a bad way. He has to hedge here concerning his opinion of Mayfield and a possible failed drug test. No way can he say that he believes Nascar went out of their way to bury Mayfield.
I read (too far maybe) into his comment(s). My take is Jr said, “NASCAR screwed up, and had taken such a hard stand in an ugly battle, they felt they couldn’t/can’t back up now”. Like they said JM pissed a lot of people off in the sport. Jeremy very well could’ve tested positive;for the reasons he stated? Possibly. Either way it gave them the ammo they needed to punish him.
Gotta Disagree with ya there.... Actually that's what I like about Dale Jr...He Calls NASCAR out on when they do mess up...They Need That Now More Than Ever 🏁
This interview and similar ones like it that get into controversial and often unprovable things put Dale, Jr. and his podcast into an impossible situation. I think that we all know how Dale, Jr. really feels about this situation, but he can’t say for multiple, obvious reasons. Maybe a better play would be to just conclude the interview and upload it without Dale, Jr. and Mike making judgement calls, and let the listeners/viewers come to their own conclusions.
Dale, you're saying you would "Tune in" if he were to get a ride in an SRX car was amazing! I'm guessing that meant more to that man at this stage in his life than almost anything someone could say to him. You may have changed the course of that man's life with that one simple but truthful statement. I believe in second chances, and this man deserves a second chance. I know if I were in a position to help get his career back on track, I'd take the chance on him.
Jeremy Mayfield was one of my favorite drivers growing up. I used to watch him race every Saturday night at Fairgrounds Speedway in Nashville and followed him up through the ranks. I hated to see the situation he got himself into, but we’re all human and do dumb things. Glad to see the interview and wish him he best.
Great thoughts and discussion guys. I do question NASCAR and their drug testing when considering Dr. Tennant and Tim Richmond who was banned for Advil and Sudafed.
pseudoephedrine is a ingredient in meth but also people have been know to take it to improve respiratory capacity and function there’s all kinds of drugs herbs and natural substances on the list that have beneficial effects for your body while training and competing it’s getting ridiculous in my opinion considering a number of therapeutics that have the same effect long term like hyperbaric training But you have to have conversations like this to challenge the bs before you can make the change
The Tim Richmond deal was just sad. Nascar just couldn't take the fact that he was not on drugs. They just dug for an answer. Man was fighting for his life and nascar just had to push the issue
Jr was the perfect person to have Mayfield tell his story... he's always good at letting the guest speak without interrupting or cutting them off. Took some nuts to even have him on to begin with! Always thought it was fishy what happened to Jeremy Mayfield... gotta respect him for atleast standing his ground and fighting back.
As a retired police officer my department had drug testing but it was random and when you were tested they sent you too three different companies for testing. If one came back positive they would rely on the other two. If two came back positive you were taken off the road and re-tested the day of the finding and given a polygraph test. You were also given the chance for concealing. If the new testing showed negative as well as the polygraph you were put back on duty. They were aware of false positive. They made it very clear in writing the substances that were not except able.
I think that Jeremy Mayfgield and Carl Long are two perfect examples of what happens when NASCAR stops being comfortable with your situation, and they work hard to find a way to "correct" the situation. Carl Long was absolute, utter, and completely screwed over by NASCAR in the engine deal, something that a major "connected" team would have been told quietly to just pull the engine and replace. NASCAR was not happy at all with the situation of back marker teams making a living off the system, and made their minds up. The difference betwen Long and Mayfield in the end is that Mayfield systematically went through and burned every bridge possible, and let himself with no real way back. Carl Long has managed to get back somewhat into NASCARs good book, although it's not written in, more like a post it note attached. NASCAR may play the family friendly card to the public, but you don't have to go far to find a nasty, petty, and morally inbred bunch who will extract pain at every turn.
@MisterMac56 and often the drivers didn't know. It was crew chiefs & builders pushing the envelope. Remember the Michael Waltrip years?? The fuel tampering? His drunken/reckless driving and failure to report an accident? There was plenty of "embarrassing" incidents that went on in the garages in the 6 years I worked there
" NASCAR may play the family friendly card to the public, but you don't have to go far to find a nasty, petty, and morally inbred bunch who will extract pain at every turn." And they think most people don't see that. Wrong.
I too, firmly believe Nascar was out to get him. I don't believe Dr. Black or Nascar were basing there findings on total facts. I personally have challenged authority and they don't like it at all. But when you have facts behind you there's no reason to back down and I believe that was the case with Jeremy Mayfield.
Nascar wanted to make an example of someone. You can't possibly believe Nascar was acting ethically the whole time. Did you forget about Nascar fighting all 3rd party testing?
For the ones who reads this just know this is only the beginning keep pushing, grinding, and fighting. Whatever it is in life you want to do to go after it life is to short. Life is a marathon not a sprint so go out there and live it up I hope all is well and goes well for you peace and one love! ✌🏽
I don't believe Nascar was acting solely on the direct advice of the Doctor. Its certainly possible, that both Nascar and the Doctor, were both working together, to rid, Nascar of Jeremy Mayfield. And also that others were afoot not only planning, but working too do the same.
I now believe Jeremy 100% did not use methamphetamines' and here's why: 1: Jeremy declared on his yearly medical he was taking prescribed Adderall. 2: Jeremy has video evidence of him buying Claritin D 3: Adderall is an amphetamine and will cause a positive test. This was done before any kind of test so this isn't a story he came up with later. 4: Jeremy took dozens of tests from one of the most trusted drug testing labs in the world and came back negative. He did this dozens of times during this entire saga. 5: He and his attorney's specifically asked for the threshold to be set to zero, and he was still negative. These revelations really side the whole thing with Jeremy. As for the raid, he gives a self serving statement no doubt. He'd also been unemployed and was trying to make a living and probably hanging our some dirtballs. But when the discovery comes back and it's Nascar providing information and then it's used in the upcoming appeal - that's a lot of evidence this is a set-up. And now consider all those charges ended up going away. Give Jeremy a poly and a drug test. Jeremy was a mid pack guy with probably one of the most clutch wins of all time and he's been gone for 13 years yet millions of people are tuning in. That's 100x more than even go to races anymore.
EXACTLY & then to find out "not a doctor" David Black was nothing but a lab tech married to one of Congress' richest representatives Diane Black who co-owned Aegis Labs & was under investigation by congress with his connections to dozens of drug deaths under his drug plan? Also the depth of corruption within the Catawba County Sheriffs office & surrounding counties that were literally owned by Nascar? And the narcs that claimed to have witnessed events, but none were ever prosecuted for ANYTHING? It was a cesspool
EXACTLY & then to find out "not a doctor" David Black was nothing but a lab tech married to one of Congress' richest representatives Diane Black who co-owned Aegis Labs & was under investigation by congress with his connections to dozens of drug deaths under his drug plan? Also the depth of corruption within the Catawba County Sheriffs office & surrounding counties that were literally owned by Nascar? And the narcs that claimed to have witnessed events, but none were ever prosecuted for ANYTHING? It was a cesspool
Of course there’s more to it than appearances… Nevertheless, Jeremy Mayfield doesn’t look or act like a meth addict. I’ve never met him either, but I’ve personally dealt with a bunch of tweakers and he just doesn’t show the signs, doesn’t look like they did.
When NASCAR went on Nasdaq the downfall started. I'd love to be a fly on the wall if Big Bill could come back and see the mess that's been made of his dream venture. I listened to my first race on an old RCA radio in the neighbor"s barn when I was 6 yrs old. Tracks have thousands of seats covered with banners that used to be sold with folks in the seats. The first thing they used to tell you when the race started was the paid attendance. When was the last time you heard that? Meanwhile, the announcers try to make us believe that the sport is growing when they can't fill a Bristol night race for crying out loud. Covering thousands of seats and then only selling half of those remaining doesn't look like growth to me. You can really tell the crowd is small when all the cameras make sure they only capture the first few rows of seats.......Here's the fun part.....coming back from a commercial break the blimp shows the overhead view and low and behold it's half full. The other funny one is the in-car cameras that show how many folks are there. Big money has taken the sport I have loved all my life (65 yrs.) and made it barely watchable. I love Dalr Jr. and all he was accomplished in his life and I understand the politics he has to play to appease NASCAR and the sponsors. I just wish things weren't that way... Thanks to Dale and the crew for the enjoyment these pod casts be to me.
The biggest tell is when they remove grandstands. That's hard to hide. Vegas got a 2nd date, those stories claimed the sport was doing just fine...2, maybe 3, days later Vegas announced they were removing seats. Both of those stories can't be true.
I live near Dover and it's the only track I've been too which is sad because it's one of the worst races to watch. When Nascar was actually growing Dover added entire sections of seats above what they already had. Then they got covered in banners. Then they got removed. Back in the day driving near Dover on race weekend was a nightmare. Now i'm not sure it's discernable from any other day.
I kind of feel like this may be one of the most important RUclips videos of the Dale Jr. pod cast. I'm more & more impressed in the person that Dale is & how wrong or how much my opinion of who he was before has changed. I just want to see people do well for themselves. Only one trip around on this planet, Make sure it's the best one for you.
Dale Jr. I am not a current Nascar fan but one of the 80s and 90s and TBH was never a Dale Jr fan.... But and a big but, you sir are one hell of an interviewer and I will watch every one of your podcasts.... Thank You
I am glad that Dale had Jeremy on a show but I do believe it's still controversial Dale has to be careful what he says about NASCAR and I do believe Jeremy Mayfield was an escape NASCAR had to point the finger at someone and I do believe Jeremy Mayfield was that guy if you look at his life He's still married his wife never left him we all know what addicts look like and Jeremy does not fit that demeanour is he innocent I do believe he was innocent was he guilty of other things I think we're all guilty of something in life but when it comes to down to push come to shove NASCAR's going to win....
Thank you for letting Jeremy tell his side. I don't know him personally but I never believed he was guilty and still don't. There never were any signs that showed substance abuse!
That dude used Jeremy to get out of his own trouble. And his medication absolutely can make you fail drug test especially back then I have seen it many times. The dude stood his ground not cause he was flawed but because he didn’t do anything wrong except be to nice to a guy to long before telling him to kick rocks.
The only sketchy part of Mayfield's story is that " he didn't really know the crackh3ad" that was bringing around stolen sh!t.... Its bull, he knew the dude, he knew the stuff was hot but thought 'well this will never come back on me'.... Other than that, its clear evernham and nascar wanted him gone and used their connections in the police force to do it
I think he meant dude was not a friend, or a buddy. I know like 7 crack heads in my neighborhood by their first names but I still don't really know them. I agree he knew the goods were hot, but also agree he probably didn't know him on a real personal level.
You can't really know someone. I have a feeling the guy Jeremy was talking about was a CI for the police all along and got help with the stolen items to be placed on Jeremy's property
@@tryhardfinessedyou ya i can believe that... Its just he made it sound like ohh i never talk to him, no one at the shop even knows why he comes around... I think it woulda played better if he had just said " ya we had this crackhead come around and i was buying stuff off of him and i probably shouldn't have" because theres still plausible deniability in that statement and you dont look like you're trying to hide something.... And one last thing when the cop was like "who can you get down here to sell you drugs" if mayfield didnt know or care about the crackhead why wouldn't you just call him and set him up.... Not that i condone ratting but if you really want this dude to stay away from your shop just send it.... But i think he couldn't because phone records would prolly show mayfield called him on a pretty consistent basis, just my opinion...
Excellent conversation about the beginning of a major issue in American lifestyle and a racer's brush with the infancy stage of drug testing in Nascar. I would like to hear Dale Jr's opinion on if NASCAR did make a mistake by trusting Dr. black would NASCAR admit to it now. Love the show. Thank you for being open and honest about this so maybe a few more of us race fans can have a honest conversation about this with our loved ones and the implications of drugs in the lives of our nearest and dearest loved ones.
As someone prescribed Adderall when you need it to function it’s not being abused just used but adderall is literally medical grade meth the genetic scrip is amphetamine salts the “meth user” look is abuse not use
@@dondagnall212 a drug test is like a concussion test (it test how much of a substance your body can’t metabolize and uses that to find what you’ve been taking) the way Jermey describes the process he went threw dr black was using a arbitrary number to determine he was abusing his prescription without know if he was just over medicated by his doctor and pharmacist any competent drug policy should have that let alone your doctor should be testing for dosages anyone that’s ever played sports or driven knows real time memory is crap and the film or data is the truth teller all doctors (in my opinion) should be using this testing so as to stop over medicating people but to the subject I don’t see where anything he did in regard the drugs was wrong he had a scrip he took it end of story if they could prove he got the scrip or was intentionally taking more to gain a advantage then he’s wrong if they can’t prove that there nothing to see here
I don't know why your video popped in my feed... I haven't really paid a whole lot of attention to nascar for a long time. I watched the whole part one interview with Jeremy Mayfield, so this is the first I've heard of what happened to him. Very interesting story to say the least. However I will say this... After seeing the first interview, and listening to his story. I feel he was being very vague. So much so that I don't believe he's as innocent as he's making out to be, but what the hell do I know. I'm very interested in seeing part two now. I've got mad respect for you and your family Dale. Keep up the good work. Kannapolis native here my brother. Stay up, and just subbed your channel.
I think the whole deal was with Jeremy Mayfield is that he pissed Ray evernham off because he said it was wrong for Ray to be dating much less marrying that young girl and that started the ball rolling just in my opinion
I’m always very careful with people that make themselves out to be that unlucky and complain how everybody is always against them. He’s either a liar or THE unluckiest person on the face of the earth
strangest part is none of the felony charges (excepting the possession of stolen goods) ended in conviction .... why is it that the drug felonies went away if he's a user?
Adderall is medical meth he was always going to fail a drug test the only question is was he abusing that scrip for a competive advantage seeing how nascar made no attempt to prove that only that he used meth in x quantity not weather it was to just function normally or not or get ahead is just wrong
I think one needs to ask Nascar what would it take to get him approved to get back on the track. Without hearing the rest of the podcast yet, I think facts are facts, he called Everham out and was true on that front, Brian France is more a problematic person than Jeremy ever was. I think you're light stepping the Nascar thought because you have to with your postion/team ownership. It's true with a lot of people and scenarios that you're willing to try anything to get back to the top, even if it can burn you. What would be the loss, already low as you can go.
There are several conditions that NASCAR has laid out for him to be able to come back, but there’s one condition which tells everyone that NASCAR has no intention of letting Jeremy come back- They want him to publicly admit that he lied about the whole thing. That tells me all I need to know.
"I think you're light stepping the Nascar thought because you have to with your postion/team ownership." he's doing exactly what he's suppose to be doing. the podcast is a platform for people to get their story out there and nothing more. once you start putting out your own statements defending or opposing guests as a host you lose credibility, just ask Joe Rogan how that went.
I have a better appreciation for Jeremy. His story is very believable. Now it has come out about some state police that were planting drugs on unsuspecting victims. Thanks to Dale Jr for asking tough questions and giving JM a platform to speak. I was a huge NASCAR fan for over 20 years. I’m now casual or maybe even less. Brian France started the ruination of the sport. He never made a right decision on anything. They are struggling mightily right now and not sure they will be able to get back anywhere near where they were.
Awesome podcast. I’ve grown to dislike the sport after being a huge fan for yours. This podcast has made me want to start going to races again and bring back the memories of some races they’ve talked about.
I believe Mayfield in most of what he has said except the guy he was buying stolen items from. He knew the guy and he knew the stuff was hot he just thought he could junk it before he got caught. Dr. black, NASCAR and Ray Evernham all had a vendetta against him and they did everything they could to take him down.
Excellent conversation about the beginning of a major issue in American lifestyle and a racer's brush with the infancy stage of drug testing in Nascar. I would like to hear Dale Jr's opinion on if NASCAR did make a mistake by trusting Dr. black would NASCAR admit to it now. Love the show. Thank you for being open and honest about this so maybe a few more of us race fans can have a honest conversation about this with our loved ones and the implications of drugs in the lives of all of us, even those who don't use illegal substances.
Nascar was out to get Jeremy like they were out to get Tim Richmond. Jeremy was set up to fail. He probably wasn't the best at networking and people were more than likely rubbed the wrong way by him, and it definitely sounded like he was surrounded by some pretty bad people. But the idea that Jeremy was using, buying, or selling drugs is almost comical. Nascar just wanted him gone and they made that happen. The police/FBI or whatever was hired and bought by NASCAR and the France family. Same with Dr. Black all just a big setup
DR Black wasn't even a physician. It was revealed in Congressional hearing into the dozens of WWE deaths under Black's drug policy, that he was nothing but a lab tech married to one of congress' richest reps Diane Black who co-owned Aegis Labs. Notice how quietly he left both Aegis Labs & Nascar stopped using his services? And you're right about Nascar buying Catawba County sheriff's dept including their arrested felon (son of sheriff Coy Reid) Lt Jason Reid who was even barred from giving criminal case testimony, had 59 drug cases dismissed because of false allegation, passing counterfeit bills (well before he got arrested himself) & also questionable Lt BM Kelly & Lt LA Turk & their list of known narcs
Anyone who thinks Brian France and others didn’t have it out for Mayfield is a damn fool. While Mayfield made plenty of mistakes it’s as obvious as the nose on your face that NASCAR and some owners decided to use him as an example. I also don’t think he used drugs, especially Meth. The best thing to happen to NASCAR in recent history is the downfall of Brian France. His grandfather would beat his sorry arse if he could.
Here’s an idea for you guys… Next Episode: Brian France!!! He’s not likely to show up… so you’ll have to trap him, by leaving a bunch of pills outside the studio door, then he’ll shuffle in dazed & confused wondering how he got there.
I really thought less of Jr. before these podcasts in terms of who his dad was. I didn't like the way he seemed to "accept losing". I was wrong about him. These podcasts he is doing now has given me insight to the man he is now and wow. I don't know because I'm just a fan but I do live close to RCR and the #3 team has been a part of my community all my life so I feel emotionally invested in the Earnhardt legacy. That being said I think Sr. would be so proud of the man Jr. became and would say Jr. has accomplished even more than Sr. did even though Jr. never won a championship racing. These podcasts are the best NASCAR related media out right now by leaps and bounds. I'm so proud of Dale Jr. and I know his dad is to.
as a CASUAL nascar fan and believer that Dale Jr has one of the best podcast. My question is how the first episode fails to mention that Brian France the CEO of Nascar is run out of office for a DUI and oxytocin addiction. My feeling is that Jeremy came on the pod because Jr has enough credibility and internal knowledge to clear his name and Dale sandbagged the episode? What kind of women stands by her man in this case unless he is telling truth? this episode has caused me to question Jr's character...
Set by by Ray E. he said on TV that he was an absentee owner because Ray had his head up girlfriend/driver azz. Ray wanted Jeremy gone so his girlfriend could drive.
It would also be interesting to look into the almost forgotten case of Kevin Grubb. I think for fans like me, who follow the racing but don't really get into the off-track personality stuff, Mayfield getting caught up in all this was a big surprise because, just going by looks, he seemed like such a clean cut guy. Also, thinking of him as a Penske driver, Roger Penske, in picking his drivers, always seemed very careful of image, thinking of Rick Mears or Al Unser (senior and junior) or Rusty Wallace, so you figured if he got Penske's approval he had to be all right. (Of course, it turned out Al Unser Jr., had his own substance abuse problems, so you learn you can't go by image.) In deciding who to believe, I tend to give Mayfield the benefit of the doubt, not so much because of Jeremy, but because I've long looked at NASCAR as being run by a bunch of gangsters and criminals. A southern Mafia. They always make me think of the movie "The Phenix City Story". They used to like to play this up with stories about bootleggers and moonshiners, like it was a cute thing, but outside the cuteness, those were violent people who'd come after you if you messed with them. They weren't characters from a Snuffy Smith cartoon.
And what exactly do you think they will gain by listening to it that they may not have seen sane and doing the interview? And pretty sure both parts of the interview were actually done all-in-one sitting last week so they've had a week To view and think about and discuss what they are saying in they are saying in this video here
@@diychad7268 it’s always a good idea there’s tons of things you don’t pick up on in the moment that you only catch from the outside view a replay can give you that why the whole concept of watching Film and going over data in sports and racing exists
Say what you will about Mayfield but for me entire life I was a Rusty Wallace fan. The race was in town that weekend and Rusty was signing autographs at local dealership. I couldn’t believe it that my hero and favorite driver was in my small town signing autographs. My mother dropped me off and I stood in line for hours to get my hero’s autograph. They cut off the line behind us and there were just 3-4 of us left in line. He then got up, left and flew away in a helicopter leaving the 3-4 of us who were told we’d get to meet him and get an autograph standing there with broken hearts. As an adult, I somewhat get it and his time is money but as a kid who was a few steps from meeting their hero, I was devastated. I left without a driver to support having been blown off by Rusty. At the fall race that same year, Jeremy Mayfield was in town signing autographs at a small rent to own type of place in my small town. I go up and wait in line and got to meet him. He took a picture with me, signed an autograph and made jokes with me. I left a Jeremy Mayfield fan. He left a great impression on me and seemed happy and honored to have this random kid as a fan.
We all have corruption everywhere. We also know nascar is not above flexing there muscle when it suits them. NASCAR will never admit any wrong. I have stopped going to nascar events and stopped spending any money on anything nascar. I don’t even watch it anymore. I just love your podcasts. Bring mayfield back!
I was gotten rid of in my job too I can totally see it. They wanted me out after 23 years of service and when I gave my two weeks they showed up at my job and escorted me out and would not let me take anything out of my office. One word comes to mind and you have to be old enough to know what it means. Branded
With him having the balls to come talk to you about this, why wasnt any of those questions asked with him across the table from yall? We could have heard it from the horses mouth or at least read his eyes and body language.
I used to be a huge NASCAR fan, knew who all the drivers and teams were and watched every race. Till Ted Turner got his grubby hooks into it, when was that 1977? He turned NASCAR from a fun family friendly sport into a corrupt money hungry corporate mess. I have never watched a race since and now have no idea who the drivers or teams are.
I remember being 8 years old and my dad was obsessed with Nascar. We would go to the airports everyday. 1 day we went to one to watch DEI land and Dale Jr must've been having a bad day. I stood on the side of the road and Dale raced by in his lifted Chevy. I never respected him after that but these interviews changed that for me. You seem like a hell of a guy Dale
He didn’t do a very good job with his explanations. Why did he open the safe ? Baggies in the safe ? Dealing in stolen property ? But I never really got a real explanation of was it the adderall or meth ? And where did that come from ?so did he still take the adderall , and fail another test ?
Looking back, Jeremy drove for Dodge. At that time, Dodge was dominating NHRA. There was a local speed shop that built the motors for them. Supposedly it got broken into and someone destroyed all the motors. Shortly after, 2 drivers tested positive for cocaine. Their careers are over and so is the speed shop. Coincidence?
HP Brien, it's not possible to dispute the well proven facts. Nobody at NASCAR did the burglaries, put the stolen goods, illegal firearms in his house, nor the meth is his home safe.
He certainly didn't tell everything. And he makes himself to be an innocent bystander that kept getting "set up". No man that doesn't just happen over and over like that.
One thing to keep in the forefront of your mind when thinking about Jeremy Mayfield, or anyone for that matter who deals with addiction of any kind, is that drugs affect the brain. We are humans with survivalist instincts at the end of the day. The brain is transformed by drugs to think that the drugs are necessary for survival. So when we ask how someone could throw away their entire cup career for a drug, it is quite easy to see how from my point of view. Jeremy, IF he is an addict, is no different than 100,000,000 other addicts who struggle with decision making day to day. They have their upbringing which tells them to act a certain way, and then their frontal cortex is telling them to act a different way. This isn't a black and white, yes or no, make a decision or don't deal. Prayers for Jeremy Mayfield and anyone else out there struggling with someone the rest of us can't see.
Great topic! As the man that was on the cover of a local newspaper, "Mountaintop Man facing 240 years in State prison", and read the contents of my Federal sealed indictment before I saw the Federal Courthouse, I am familiar with how things get out of control. Without any more information I can assure you that the thief got pinched and to get out of it, he threw Jeremy under the bus. Once a big name was thrown in the mix, law enforcement saw an opportunity to enhance their careers and the prosecutor saw potential for his career also, now to pile on as fast and as hard as possible. On the other side, you're either clean or dirty, a little bit or a lot means nothing. The science guy couldn't be impartial with a service to provide and headlines to help his popularity and pocketbook. It's all about getting cooperation and careers, not protecting the public. Ask Tim Allen how many of his friends he set up to do less then 2 years for kilos of Cocaine{trafficking weight} into an International Airport. I read his book and interviewed a friend and got 2 different stories. And myself, just a little over 6 years and no cooperation showed me that I passed the test. Keep up the good work jr.
Actually having to deal with the system makes you question it quite a bit. Its easier if hyou never see behind the curtain and just think "justice" is always being served.
@@extragoogleaccount6061 When you meet the attorney and he says he's not here to defend you, just going to sign off on your plea agreement so you can go off to prison. Then you can't contact his office because they don't accept collect calls from the county jail and he's overseas with the reserves for months during Desert Storm. I'm not eligible for a bail reduction hearing because the prosecutor will get mad. Four years in, the prosecutor comes to the State Prison to threaten me with more charges. Released twice and driven around and brought back because of a paperwork error I never saw. Truthfully, I don't question the system since I got to see how it really works. When they can change your sentence from concurrent to overlapping without telling you about it, It's Eastern European roots are quite obvious.
I think people need to come clean here, they raided his property over a piece of metal? Someone is lying about this incident for sure. A piece of metal with no serial number or identifying numbers is not traceable and no judge is signing that search warrant.
Keeping in mind NASCAR was then and is now a dictatorship I think it is possible he didn't get a true fair shake when it came to the drug usage issue. Having said that, hearing his interview (Part 1) he reminded me of some of the young people that are in trouble with the law and try their best to tell a story in a way that their wrong doing is minimized and the wrong doing of others is highlighted. In other words you get part of the story but not all of the story. That was just my impression.
Dale Jr. should undoubtedly be running NASCAR. I wasn't a huge fan of his as a driver, but since he's retired he's become the steady, stable voice of NASCAR. His talent transcends driving whether he's being an analyst, a catalyst for change or even just a fan of NASCAR. He's without a doubt the most important NASCAR figure within the sport and his insight and optimism is par to none.
Listening again, Mike nailed it." When he went independent, the dominos started to fall quickly." True, go back and look at how much they F'D with Robby Gordon when he went independent. 🤔
Right on. I recall a race at Bristol when Robby's car wouldn't start for qualifying, and had no choice but to withdraw. This was the first year for EFI. Dodge only had 3 or 4 cars in the field by this point, and the McLaren group went running for cover with no comment. There's no way foul play wasn't involved there.
@@jamesramsay867 👍 They put Robby Gordon through hell. The guy was/is super talented & could have been a champion in the right set of circumstances.
They hate independent when they dont get a cut
It's certainly is and has always been a family business.
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I think myself Nascar was behind more than Dale Jr believes. Dale ain’t gonna say anything bad about Nascar
Dale is one of the first ones to say negative things about NASCAR if he believes it to be true.
Same here
@@ScottXC91 nah he still looks at nascar as a revenue source and may eventually have a cup team or two so he isn’t actually ever going to speak against nascar when it comes to this
@@ScottXC91 exactly
Several counties in North Carolina was found to made false bust
Dale Jr has done a phenomenal job with his Podcast. The truth is what matters to Dale. Folks have no idea how much of an impact Dale Jr has in every aspect of the sport!!
These are great interviews
To you, he has because you're a fan boy.
Jr. Has had no affect on nascar today except show how not to be a nascar driver as bad as Jr was and is. Jr. Has done nothing but such tail with nascar
Brian France had no business of being a leader...check his record.
No one that runs nascar at the current moment deserves to run nascar
DWI and narcotic possession...
@@youfillmylifewithjello6661 FYI, NASCAR is a privately owned corporation with the France family being the majority stock owners since NASCAR was founded in 1948.
@@sergeantmasson3669 ok well get them tf out of there
@@sergeantmasson3669 still doesn't mean ANYONE within the organization is above corruption or should be running & manipulating the lives of so many
You know, I came into this with an open mind. I remember all this going down with JM and honestly thought he probably did it if Nascar's testing policy says he did. Then, as time went on, I got a little more skeptical. I've got family on my wife's side that has dealt with meth over and over. One thing I will say, the recidivism rate for meth is extremely high, something like 96% meaning only 4% of people ever get off it which is why I think it's our biggest threat as a society in terms of drug use. If JM was really using meth, there would've been other signs and just physical appearance changes that go along with meth use. I'm not talking about meth mouth necessarily, but they just don't look healthy and you can tell there's something off about them. JM never gave that impression off and for all intents and purposes, looks the same today as he did then just a little more years. He doesn't talk like someone who's been on meth and certainly doesn't look the part.
My problem with the whole thing was what he said about having little baggies in his safe for his coins, those are called coin sleeves and completely different than baggies. Overall, the whole Red Dawn on his property just doesn't sit well with me nor his explanation of why it happened.
I guess you could say that I'm no more convinced that he did do it or that he didn't do it than I was. His story is far fetched but believable in a way. I will say he either the most stubborn man to ever walk this earth and admit his guilt or he's 100% telling the truth. Your name and reputation is all you really have on this earth and if I was accused of something I didn't do, I'd probably be just as hard headed as JM is about the whole thing.
The true hero in this story is his wife for sticking by him which also leads me to believe that he just might be telling the truth. If he really was using meth, I can't imagine his wife sitting idly by and letting everything they've accumulated together be taken from her.
Fent is way more of a threat.
Never ever admit to anything that you didn't do!
Any smart meth user/seller knows keep the drugs buried on the property. Especially if the heat is on.. that’s all I got to say. Also you don’t open a safe for cops if you have contraband In it, you make them find it
@@ETGcasper lol smart meth user....
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Really enjoyed this podcast. Took guts to have him on. Bad choices by Jeremy. Flaws in everybody. But when someone is label a drug addict and he truly is not . Still the question to be answered. My guts telling me he is not to the degree nascar calm. Truly believe he was made a example of what can happen when powerful people decide to take you out . Thanks for having him on . Could tell y'all enjoyed it too. Somethings we may never know for definite.
There are side stories that are coming to a conclusion this year about NC police. It factors into the raid on JM.
Given the state of nascar today i say give em acid and let's go racing! Would sure be amusing. Lol...
I don’t think he was an addict like people claimed. Claritin and Sudafed are 2 different drugs.
Don't forget he tested positive for amphetamines, Sudafed over the counter will give you a positive test result. They fkd over tim Richmond in the 80s the same way. Nascar doesn't get the benefit of doubt in this one for me
@@wev2344 I was the subject of prosecution in Catawaba County police and it is bad. Corruption runs deep there.
I'm a Dale Jr. fan, but I know this show is not allowed to say anything too bad about Nascar. We're probably not going to get his and Mike's honest opinions on air.
They went about as far as they could without outright blaming Nascar heh
Same. I don't even watch or keep up with it anymore. Nascar has become trash. Dirty dickheads get away with slaps on wrist. Good decent drivers get shafted one way or another.
That's for sure so why even do it what a joke
Seems like they were back pedaling a little bit considering what they were saying in the first part of the interview.
@@runswithbeer yeah but the sponsors do
Awesome interview! I am a Firm believer that Nascar was out for Jeremy. You have to remember back in that time Nascar actually thought they were god!! Jeremy could have definitely done different but you have to remember Jeremy actually thought he was still a Superstar back then and thought he could get away with anything! I say its just two hardheads going at it..
And they still do
I've known Jeremy since high school, didn't always get along or agree with him, he said a lot of things in his Nascar career that really didn't help his position! But he was a great driver! And I never knew him to be a liar
I’ve suspected for years that NASCAR wanted JM to just go away quietly, and he refused to allow upper management to “screw him without kissing him first.” It’s really sad that they eventually got their way…
Jody Wells, obviously, you didn't know him as much as you thought.
@@sergeantmasson3669 How did you know him. I really don't know who you are or what part you play in this.
@@TheRetiredtech the Sargent thinks he is an expert on everything.
@@twoblacklabs904 Why did they hate him though?
I think Dr Black and Brian France did all the wrong, NASCAR played dumb, Jeremy's not perfect, but nobody is it could have been handled much better. Thanks Dale, good job. 🏁
everyone was in the wrong.. NASCAR knee jerk reacted to the media pressure to implement a drug testing system. instead of spending the time researching into the companies/services available to them they immediately went with the cheapest option. as much as i want to blame Brian, a lot of the blame rests on the people around him that were more worried about getting a promotion or bonus then actually doing the right thing for the drivers, sport, and fans. and no i'm not going to defend Mayfield either, whether or not he had a drug problem doesn't excuse him for the positions he put himself in to get to this point.
At what agreeing w nascar
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I've never been a fan of NASCAR, maybe a "casual fan" at best. But I cannot get enough of these podcasts!!!
Very entertaining to hear the stories and thoughts from the other side. Very good show
I still think that Ray was so pissed in exposing his personal life, his power with Nascar was Jeremy's downfall. Just a opinion.
Fill me in if you would please. I do not remember what Jeremey did or said about Ray.
@@StickA-yd4fp called Ray out for being an absent owner. Called out his affair with Erin Crocker. Did this on national television in an interview.
@@joshdietsch7928 Thanks man
Bingo!!
That whole team blew up because of that affair. Definitely lots of "blame" to throw around and a bunch got thrown back at Jeremy because his frustration with the team's performance caused him to publicly expose something that wasn't "meant" to be
This is an incredible Podcast. Dale Jrs talents go WELL beyond racing. Hes a really smart guy.
Just a nascar promoter lol
@@budtate401 You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
@@budtate401 your watching so you are not wrong.
@@budtate401 I wouldn't say a promoter but will say he is careful with his words and rightly so. He wants NASCAR to be great, lots of people can benefit. Smart & caring people don't poop where they eat. His father was the same way, willing to call out the powers to be but knew exactly where the line was.
he cares about the fans obviously.
I noticed these two Mayfield videos may be Dale's largest viewed on this channel. People want to know why Mayfield took on NASCAR where most who tested positive chose to do the steps then get back to racing (i.e. AJ Almendinger, Spencer Gallagher, etc.). NASCAR made an example out of him fighting back (David vs Golliath). Mike is right, lots of wrongs on both sides.
Sounds like NASCAR wanted Claritin’s money for sponsorships and would be an issue if it was a banned substance. I think Mayfield knew what was going on and wanted to challenge the NASCAR ecosystem. Something smells dangerously fishy all the way around.
NASCAR is a scripted business, much like “Pro”Wrestling. I am baffled that anyone watches NASCAR, especially after corruption like this is found. Sure, no one is innocent here. However NASCAR is a powerful organization that is willing to scalp fans on ticket prices, enforce false morality (drug testing), and hammer anyone who questions the brand. The difference between Mayfield and NASCAR is that NASCAR has power. I have never watched a full NASCAR race and read a lot after stumbling on this interview. I will never watch NASCAR after reading about this and the organization.
He had a damn prescription for Adderall which is Dr confirmed but nascar didn’t give two shits about that. It was a scandal for ratings, simple. That test wouldn’t have stood up in any other industry. NASCAR railroaded mayfield over his comments and their bad ratings
You don't take on NASCAR
Never ever admit to anything that you are not guilty of!
Always a great podcast , always liked Mayfield too . You gotta think Dale can't say everything he honestly believes in , especially if it makes nascar look bad , I mean he does have Jr. Motorsports who races within the rules of nascar , and he actually makes money from owning his teams in nascar ( mostly sponsor money for Dale himself, and the invidual sponsors on the teams cars ) . I really believe if Dale didn't have anything at all to do with nascar , he would say whatever he really wanted to say ... There's no way to be 110% sure exactly what happened to Mayfield, or what he did , but I can appreciate him coming on the show and telling his side , and hopefully he can build a career that he enjoyes in life ...
Really enjoyed the Mayfield podcast. One of my favorites. But we all need to come to grips with the reality that Dale Jr, in his position as a brand ambassador for NBC, can't paint Nascar in a bad way. He has to hedge here concerning his opinion of Mayfield and a possible failed drug test. No way can he say that he believes Nascar went out of their way to bury Mayfield.
I read (too far maybe) into his comment(s). My take is Jr said, “NASCAR screwed up, and had taken such a hard stand in an ugly battle, they felt they couldn’t/can’t back up now”. Like they said JM pissed a lot of people off in the sport. Jeremy very well could’ve tested positive;for the reasons he stated? Possibly. Either way it gave them the ammo they needed to punish him.
Gotta Disagree with ya there.... Actually that's what I like about Dale Jr...He Calls NASCAR out on when they do mess up...They Need That Now More Than Ever 🏁
This interview and similar ones like it that get into controversial and often unprovable things put Dale, Jr. and his podcast into an impossible situation.
I think that we all know how Dale, Jr. really feels about this situation, but he can’t say for multiple, obvious reasons.
Maybe a better play would be to just conclude the interview and upload it without Dale, Jr. and Mike making judgement calls, and let the listeners/viewers come to their own conclusions.
Bingo....can't bite the hand that feeds you
Dale, you're saying you would "Tune in" if he were to get a ride in an SRX car was amazing! I'm guessing that meant more to that man at this stage in his life than almost anything someone could say to him. You may have changed the course of that man's life with that one simple but truthful statement. I believe in second chances, and this man deserves a second chance. I know if I were in a position to help get his career back on track, I'd take the chance on him.
Jeremy Mayfield deserves more than a second chance. He deserves justice/reinstatement at best, and an apology at least.
I never thought Jeremy was as bad as they said. What we know about Brian France now shows that. Brian proved he was the real crook.
@@easyenetwork2023 very true, imagine if the feds investigated Jeremy's case as well as Brian.
Jeremy Mayfield was one of my favorite drivers growing up. I used to watch him race every Saturday night at Fairgrounds Speedway in Nashville and followed him up through the ranks. I hated to see the situation he got himself into, but we’re all human and do dumb things. Glad to see the interview and wish him he best.
Awesome session with Mayfield. Never heard his side of the story before. Thanks!
Great thoughts and discussion guys. I do question NASCAR and their drug testing when considering Dr. Tennant and Tim Richmond who was banned for Advil and Sudafed.
pseudoephedrine is a ingredient in meth but also people have been know to take it to improve respiratory capacity and function there’s all kinds of drugs herbs and natural substances on the list that have beneficial effects for your body while training and competing it’s getting ridiculous in my opinion considering a number of therapeutics that have the same effect long term like hyperbaric training But you have to have conversations like this to challenge the bs before you can make the change
The Tim Richmond deal was just sad. Nascar just couldn't take the fact that he was not on drugs. They just dug for an answer. Man was fighting for his life and nascar just had to push the issue
Jr was the perfect person to have Mayfield tell his story... he's always good at letting the guest speak without interrupting or cutting them off. Took some nuts to even have him on to begin with! Always thought it was fishy what happened to Jeremy Mayfield... gotta respect him for atleast standing his ground and fighting back.
Much praise for Dale and crew for doing the interview. Wasn’t an easy decision but they + Jeremy did a great job.
Well done guys.
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As a retired police officer my department had drug testing but it was random and when you were tested they sent you too three different companies for testing.
If one came back positive they would rely on the other two. If two came back positive you were taken off the road and re-tested the day of the finding and given a polygraph test. You were also given the chance for concealing.
If the new testing showed negative as well as the polygraph you were put back on duty.
They were aware of false positive.
They made it very clear in writing the substances that were not except able.
acceptable
I think that Jeremy Mayfgield and Carl Long are two perfect examples of what happens when NASCAR stops being comfortable with your situation, and they work hard to find a way to "correct" the situation. Carl Long was absolute, utter, and completely screwed over by NASCAR in the engine deal, something that a major "connected" team would have been told quietly to just pull the engine and replace. NASCAR was not happy at all with the situation of back marker teams making a living off the system, and made their minds up. The difference betwen Long and Mayfield in the end is that Mayfield systematically went through and burned every bridge possible, and let himself with no real way back. Carl Long has managed to get back somewhat into NASCARs good book, although it's not written in, more like a post it note attached. NASCAR may play the family friendly card to the public, but you don't have to go far to find a nasty, petty, and morally inbred bunch who will extract pain at every turn.
@MisterMac56 and often the drivers didn't know. It was crew chiefs & builders pushing the envelope. Remember the Michael Waltrip years?? The fuel tampering? His drunken/reckless driving and failure to report an accident? There was plenty of "embarrassing" incidents that went on in the garages in the 6 years I worked there
" NASCAR may play the family friendly card to the public, but you don't have to go far to find a nasty, petty, and morally inbred bunch who will extract pain at every turn."
And they think most people don't see that. Wrong.
Thank you for doing this with Jeremy when all that was going on I was like wow. I wish Jeremy the Best.
I too, firmly believe Nascar was out to get him. I don't believe Dr. Black or Nascar were basing there findings on total facts. I personally have challenged authority and they don't like it at all. But when you have facts behind you there's no reason to back down and I believe that was the case with Jeremy Mayfield.
Jeremy Mayfield didn't do anything wrong he was targeted by NASCAR I have the highest respect for him
Nascar wanted to make an example of someone.
You can't possibly believe Nascar was acting ethically the whole time. Did you forget about Nascar fighting all 3rd party testing?
Brian France and Teresa Earnhardt are the 2 most despised people in NASCAR
For the ones who reads this just know this is only the beginning keep pushing, grinding, and fighting. Whatever it is in life you want to do to go after it life is to short. Life is a marathon not a sprint so go out there and live it up I hope all is well and goes well for you peace and one love! ✌🏽
I don't believe Nascar was acting solely on the direct advice of the Doctor. Its certainly possible, that both Nascar and the Doctor, were both working together, to rid, Nascar of Jeremy Mayfield. And also that others were afoot not only planning, but working too do the same.
I now believe Jeremy 100% did not use methamphetamines' and here's why:
1: Jeremy declared on his yearly medical he was taking prescribed Adderall.
2: Jeremy has video evidence of him buying Claritin D
3: Adderall is an amphetamine and will cause a positive test.
This was done before any kind of test so this isn't a story he came up with later.
4: Jeremy took dozens of tests from one of the most trusted drug testing labs in the world and came back negative. He did this dozens of times during this entire saga.
5: He and his attorney's specifically asked for the threshold to be set to zero, and he was still negative.
These revelations really side the whole thing with Jeremy.
As for the raid, he gives a self serving statement no doubt. He'd also been unemployed and was trying to make a living and probably hanging our some dirtballs. But when the discovery comes back and it's Nascar providing information and then it's used in the upcoming appeal - that's a lot of evidence this is a set-up. And now consider all those charges ended up going away.
Give Jeremy a poly and a drug test. Jeremy was a mid pack guy with probably one of the most clutch wins of all time and he's been gone for 13 years yet millions of people are tuning in. That's 100x more than even go to races anymore.
Adderall and meth is the same thing. I have abused both. Same effect.
@@rickydavis4964 They are absolutely both amphetamines which explains the effects.
EXACTLY & then to find out "not a doctor" David Black was nothing but a lab tech married to one of Congress' richest representatives Diane Black who co-owned Aegis Labs & was under investigation by congress with his connections to dozens of drug deaths under his drug plan? Also the depth of corruption within the Catawba County Sheriffs office & surrounding counties that were literally owned by Nascar? And the narcs that claimed to have witnessed events, but none were ever prosecuted for ANYTHING? It was a cesspool
EXACTLY & then to find out "not a doctor" David Black was nothing but a lab tech married to one of Congress' richest representatives Diane Black who co-owned Aegis Labs & was under investigation by congress with his connections to dozens of drug deaths under his drug plan? Also the depth of corruption within the Catawba County Sheriffs office & surrounding counties that were literally owned by Nascar? And the narcs that claimed to have witnessed events, but none were ever prosecuted for ANYTHING? It was a cesspool
Of course there’s more to it than appearances… Nevertheless, Jeremy Mayfield doesn’t look or act like a meth addict. I’ve never met him either, but I’ve personally dealt with a bunch of tweakers and he just doesn’t show the signs, doesn’t look like they did.
When NASCAR went on Nasdaq the downfall started. I'd love to be a fly on the wall if Big Bill could come back and see the mess that's been made of his dream venture. I listened to my first race on an old RCA radio in the neighbor"s barn when I was 6 yrs old. Tracks have thousands of seats covered with banners that used to be sold with folks in the seats. The first thing they used to tell you when the race started was the paid attendance. When was the last time you heard that? Meanwhile, the announcers try to make us believe that the sport is growing when they can't fill a Bristol night race for crying out loud. Covering thousands of seats and then only selling half of those remaining doesn't look like growth to me. You can really tell the crowd is small when all the cameras make sure they only capture the first few rows of seats.......Here's the fun part.....coming back from a commercial break the blimp shows the overhead view and low and behold it's half full. The other funny one is the in-car cameras that show how many folks are there. Big money has taken the sport I have loved all my life (65 yrs.) and made it barely watchable. I love Dalr Jr. and all he was accomplished in his life and I understand the politics he has to play to appease NASCAR and the sponsors. I just wish things weren't that way... Thanks to Dale and the crew for the enjoyment these pod casts be to me.
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The biggest tell is when they remove grandstands. That's hard to hide. Vegas got a 2nd date, those stories claimed the sport was doing just fine...2, maybe 3, days later Vegas announced they were removing seats. Both of those stories can't be true.
I live near Dover and it's the only track I've been too which is sad because it's one of the worst races to watch. When Nascar was actually growing Dover added entire sections of seats above what they already had. Then they got covered in banners. Then they got removed. Back in the day driving near Dover on race weekend was a nightmare. Now i'm not sure it's discernable from any other day.
NASCAR isn't on the Nasdaq...it's a private company not a public one.
I kind of feel like this may be one of the most important RUclips videos of the Dale Jr. pod cast. I'm more & more impressed in the person that Dale is & how wrong or how much my opinion of who he was before has changed. I just want to see people do well for themselves. Only one trip around on this planet, Make sure it's the best one for you.
Dale Jr. I am not a current Nascar fan but one of the 80s and 90s and TBH was never a Dale Jr fan.... But and a big but, you sir are one hell of an interviewer and I will watch every one of your podcasts.... Thank You
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I am glad that Dale had Jeremy on a show but I do believe it's still controversial Dale has to be careful what he says about NASCAR and I do believe Jeremy Mayfield was an escape NASCAR had to point the finger at someone and I do believe Jeremy Mayfield was that guy if you look at his life He's still married his wife never left him we all know what addicts look like and Jeremy does not fit that demeanour is he innocent I do believe he was innocent was he guilty of other things I think we're all guilty of something in life but when it comes to down to push come to shove NASCAR's going to win....
Thank you for letting Jeremy tell his side. I don't know him personally but I never believed he was guilty and still don't. There never were any signs that showed substance abuse!
" There never were any signs that showed substance abuse!"
BINGO!
Anyone who knows anything about substance abuse knows this was BOGUS.
That dude used Jeremy to get out of his own trouble. And his medication absolutely can make you fail drug test especially back then I have seen it many times. The dude stood his ground not cause he was flawed but because he didn’t do anything wrong except be to nice to a guy to long before telling him to kick rocks.
The only sketchy part of Mayfield's story is that " he didn't really know the crackh3ad" that was bringing around stolen sh!t.... Its bull, he knew the dude, he knew the stuff was hot but thought 'well this will never come back on me'.... Other than that, its clear evernham and nascar wanted him gone and used their connections in the police force to do it
I think he meant dude was not a friend, or a buddy. I know like 7 crack heads in my neighborhood by their first names but I still don't really know them. I agree he knew the goods were hot, but also agree he probably didn't know him on a real personal level.
Exactly
You can't really know someone. I have a feeling the guy Jeremy was talking about was a CI for the police all along and got help with the stolen items to be placed on Jeremy's property
@@tryhardfinessedyou ya i can believe that... Its just he made it sound like ohh i never talk to him, no one at the shop even knows why he comes around... I think it woulda played better if he had just said " ya we had this crackhead come around and i was buying stuff off of him and i probably shouldn't have" because theres still plausible deniability in that statement and you dont look like you're trying to hide something.... And one last thing when the cop was like "who can you get down here to sell you drugs" if mayfield didnt know or care about the crackhead why wouldn't you just call him and set him up.... Not that i condone ratting but if you really want this dude to stay away from your shop just send it.... But i think he couldn't because phone records would prolly show mayfield called him on a pretty consistent basis, just my opinion...
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Excellent conversation about the beginning of a major issue in American lifestyle and a racer's brush with the infancy stage of drug testing in Nascar. I would like to hear Dale Jr's opinion on if NASCAR did make a mistake by trusting Dr. black would NASCAR admit to it now. Love the show. Thank you for being open and honest about this so maybe a few more of us race fans can have a honest conversation about this with our loved ones and the implications of drugs in the lives of our nearest and dearest loved ones.
You two need to seriously look at a meth user vs no meth user. Mayfield has never had the meth look.
As someone prescribed Adderall when you need it to function it’s not being abused just used but adderall is literally medical grade meth the genetic scrip is amphetamine salts the “meth user” look is abuse not use
@@Doubie. I agree that a more in depth test needed to be done.
@@dondagnall212 a drug test is like a concussion test (it test how much of a substance your body can’t metabolize and uses that to find what you’ve been taking) the way Jermey describes the process he went threw dr black was using a arbitrary number to determine he was abusing his prescription without know if he was just over medicated by his doctor and pharmacist any competent drug policy should have that let alone your doctor should be testing for dosages anyone that’s ever played sports or driven knows real time memory is crap and the film or data is the truth teller all doctors (in my opinion) should be using this testing so as to stop over medicating people but to the subject I don’t see where anything he did in regard the drugs was wrong he had a scrip he took it end of story if they could prove he got the scrip or was intentionally taking more to gain a advantage then he’s wrong if they can’t prove that there nothing to see here
I don't know why your video popped in my feed...
I haven't really paid a whole lot of attention to nascar for a long time.
I watched the whole part one interview with Jeremy Mayfield, so this is the first I've heard of what happened to him. Very interesting story to say the least.
However I will say this...
After seeing the first interview, and listening to his story. I feel he was being very vague. So much so that I don't believe he's as innocent as he's making out to be, but what the hell do I know.
I'm very interested in seeing part two now.
I've got mad respect for you and your family Dale. Keep up the good work.
Kannapolis native here my brother. Stay up, and just subbed your channel.
I think the whole deal was with Jeremy Mayfield is that he pissed Ray evernham off because he said it was wrong for Ray to be dating much less marrying that young girl and that started the ball rolling just in my opinion
Thanks for giving honest interviews and diving deeper than most people have balls to do.
I’m always very careful with people that make themselves out to be that unlucky and complain how everybody is always against them. He’s either a liar or THE unluckiest person on the face of the earth
strangest part is none of the felony charges (excepting the possession of stolen goods) ended in conviction .... why is it that the drug felonies went away if he's a user?
Adderall is medical meth he was always going to fail a drug test the only question is was he abusing that scrip for a competive advantage seeing how nascar made no attempt to prove that only that he used meth in x quantity not weather it was to just function normally or not or get ahead is just wrong
I think one needs to ask Nascar what would it take to get him approved to get back on the track. Without hearing the rest of the podcast yet, I think facts are facts, he called Everham out and was true on that front, Brian France is more a problematic person than Jeremy ever was. I think you're light stepping the Nascar thought because you have to with your postion/team ownership. It's true with a lot of people and scenarios that you're willing to try anything to get back to the top, even if it can burn you. What would be the loss, already low as you can go.
Lost a ton of respect for junior
There are several conditions that NASCAR has laid out for him to be able to come back, but there’s one condition which tells everyone that NASCAR has no intention of letting Jeremy come back- They want him to publicly admit that he lied about the whole thing. That tells me all I need to know.
"I think you're light stepping the Nascar thought because you have to with your postion/team ownership."
he's doing exactly what he's suppose to be doing. the podcast is a platform for people to get their story out there and nothing more. once you start putting out your own statements defending or opposing guests as a host you lose credibility, just ask Joe Rogan how that went.
I have a better appreciation for Jeremy. His story is very believable. Now it has come out about some state police that were planting drugs on unsuspecting victims. Thanks to Dale Jr for asking tough questions and giving JM a platform to speak. I was a huge NASCAR fan for over 20 years. I’m now casual or maybe even less. Brian France started the ruination of the sport. He never made a right decision on anything. They are struggling mightily right now and not sure they will be able to get back anywhere near where they were.
Awesome podcast. I’ve grown to dislike the sport after being a huge fan for yours. This podcast has made me want to start going to races again and bring back the memories of some races they’ve talked about.
Jr taking a bit of a company man take. Brian France absolutely had a vendetta against Mayfield and Brian France was nascar.
Brian 'Cocaine' France, the alkyd, that one?
I believe Mayfield in most of what he has said except the guy he was buying stolen items from. He knew the guy and he knew the stuff was hot he just thought he could junk it before he got caught. Dr. black, NASCAR and Ray Evernham all had a vendetta against him and they did everything they could to take him down.
My only question about that is did he know before or after he bought them if it was after I don’t fault him if he knew before is a problem
Mayfield talking about Evernham cheating on his wife I think started this whole deal. Evernham was pissed and wanted revenge.
Whether Jeremy was doing that or not I still think he got railroaded by nascar they made an example of him 100%
Dale and Mike were reminded this week of what a wise man once said: "You shall not bite the hand that feeds you"
Excellent conversation about the beginning of a major issue in American lifestyle and a racer's brush with the infancy stage of drug testing in Nascar. I would like to hear Dale Jr's opinion on if NASCAR did make a mistake by trusting Dr. black would NASCAR admit to it now. Love the show. Thank you for being open and honest about this so maybe a few more of us race fans can have a honest conversation about this with our loved ones and the implications of drugs in the lives of all of us, even those who don't use illegal substances.
Having delt with relatives and friends with drug issues there is always one consistency and that's a convoluted explanation.
There it is!
Best podcast yet Im a big fan of Jeremy!
Nascar was out to get Jeremy like they were out to get Tim Richmond. Jeremy was set up to fail. He probably wasn't the best at networking and people were more than likely rubbed the wrong way by him, and it definitely sounded like he was surrounded by some pretty bad people. But the idea that Jeremy was using, buying, or selling drugs is almost comical. Nascar just wanted him gone and they made that happen. The police/FBI or whatever was hired and bought by NASCAR and the France family. Same with Dr. Black all just a big setup
DR Black wasn't even a physician. It was revealed in Congressional hearing into the dozens of WWE deaths under Black's drug policy, that he was nothing but a lab tech married to one of congress' richest reps Diane Black who co-owned Aegis Labs. Notice how quietly he left both Aegis Labs & Nascar stopped using his services? And you're right about Nascar buying Catawba County sheriff's dept including their arrested felon (son of sheriff Coy Reid) Lt Jason Reid who was even barred from giving criminal case testimony, had 59 drug cases dismissed because of false allegation, passing counterfeit bills (well before he got arrested himself) & also questionable Lt BM Kelly & Lt LA Turk & their list of known narcs
That promo at the end was the BEST promo you've EVER shot 👍
Anyone who thinks Brian France and others didn’t have it out for Mayfield is a damn fool. While Mayfield made plenty of mistakes it’s as obvious as the nose on your face that NASCAR and some owners decided to use him as an example. I also don’t think he used drugs, especially Meth. The best thing to happen to NASCAR in recent history is the downfall of Brian France. His grandfather would beat his sorry arse if he could.
Here’s an idea for you guys… Next Episode: Brian France!!! He’s not likely to show up… so you’ll have to trap him, by leaving a bunch of pills outside the studio door, then he’ll shuffle in dazed & confused wondering how he got there.
NASCAR definitely set Mayfield up, I'm not claiming he was 100% innocent but so many charges and only 2 charges stuck, C'mon
I really thought less of Jr. before these podcasts in terms of who his dad was. I didn't like the way he seemed to "accept losing". I was wrong about him. These podcasts he is doing now has given me insight to the man he is now and wow. I don't know because I'm just a fan but I do live close to RCR and the #3 team has been a part of my community all my life so I feel emotionally invested in the Earnhardt legacy. That being said I think Sr. would be so proud of the man Jr. became and would say Jr. has accomplished even more than Sr. did even though Jr. never won a championship racing. These podcasts are the best NASCAR related media out right now by leaps and bounds. I'm so proud of Dale Jr. and I know his dad is to.
I do like Jeremy Mayfield. I hope he can make it good for himself and others around him 🙏
as a CASUAL nascar fan and believer that Dale Jr has one of the best podcast. My question is how the first episode fails to mention that Brian France the CEO of Nascar is run out of office for a DUI and oxytocin addiction. My feeling is that Jeremy came on the pod because Jr has enough credibility and internal knowledge to clear his name and Dale sandbagged the episode? What kind of women stands by her man in this case unless he is telling truth? this episode has caused me to question Jr's character...
Mayfield was being punished for leaking the Rayeverham affair imo
Remember what Bill France and NASCAR did to Tim Richmond? You want to talk about a vendetta.
I believe he was set up.
But why? I also believe Jeremy isn't completely without guilt either.
Exposing his car owner's affair with one of his drivers is a pretty big deal...lol
Set by by Ray E. he said on TV that he was an absentee owner because Ray had his head up girlfriend/driver azz. Ray wanted Jeremy gone so his girlfriend could drive.
@@amygoodrich3735 ohhh I see.
@@bryonkidder6199 that's right. I forgot all about that.
Excellent assessment of Jeremy.........you eloquently made your opinion, which I agree with 100%.
It would also be interesting to look into the almost forgotten case of Kevin Grubb. I think for fans like me, who follow the racing but don't really get into the off-track personality stuff, Mayfield getting caught up in all this was a big surprise because, just going by looks, he seemed like such a clean cut guy. Also, thinking of him as a Penske driver, Roger Penske, in picking his drivers, always seemed very careful of image, thinking of Rick Mears or Al Unser (senior and junior) or Rusty Wallace, so you figured if he got Penske's approval he had to be all right. (Of course, it turned out Al Unser Jr., had his own substance abuse problems, so you learn you can't go by image.)
In deciding who to believe, I tend to give Mayfield the benefit of the doubt, not so much because of Jeremy, but because I've long looked at NASCAR as being run by a bunch of gangsters and criminals. A southern Mafia. They always make me think of the movie "The Phenix City Story". They used to like to play this up with stories about bootleggers and moonshiners, like it was a cute thing, but outside the cuteness, those were violent people who'd come after you if you messed with them. They weren't characters from a Snuffy Smith cartoon.
Brian France needs 90 federal agents to search his house…I guarantee they will find more than they found at Jeremy Mayfield’s..
I know you did the interview, but I think you need to sit down and listen to it
And what exactly do you think they will gain by listening to it that they may not have seen sane and doing the interview? And pretty sure both parts of the interview were actually done all-in-one sitting last week so they've had a week To view and think about and discuss what they are saying in they are saying in this video here
@@diychad7268 it’s always a good idea there’s tons of things you don’t pick up on in the moment that you only catch from the outside view a replay can give you that why the whole concept of watching Film and going over data in sports and racing exists
Say what you will about Mayfield but for me entire life I was a Rusty Wallace fan. The race was in town that weekend and Rusty was signing autographs at local dealership. I couldn’t believe it that my hero and favorite driver was in my small town signing autographs. My mother dropped me off and I stood in line for hours to get my hero’s autograph. They cut off the line behind us and there were just 3-4 of us left in line. He then got up, left and flew away in a helicopter leaving the 3-4 of us who were told we’d get to meet him and get an autograph standing there with broken hearts. As an adult, I somewhat get it and his time is money but as a kid who was a few steps from meeting their hero, I was devastated. I left without a driver to support having been blown off by Rusty.
At the fall race that same year, Jeremy Mayfield was in town signing autographs at a small rent to own type of place in my small town. I go up and wait in line and got to meet him. He took a picture with me, signed an autograph and made jokes with me. I left a Jeremy Mayfield fan. He left a great impression on me and seemed happy and honored to have this random kid as a fan.
NASCAR is no longer NASCAR... just a joke racing league. The whole playoff system is a joke. Miss 10 races and win a championship.
Awesome JR!!!! 👌 Great Show brother, keep it coming, God Bless
Jeremy told his truth I believe.
We all have corruption everywhere. We also know nascar is not above flexing there muscle when it suits them. NASCAR will never admit any wrong. I have stopped going to nascar events and stopped spending any money on anything nascar. I don’t even watch it anymore. I just love your podcasts.
Bring mayfield back!
I believe Jeremy's aderall story
I was gotten rid of in my job too I can totally see it. They wanted me out after 23 years of service and when I gave my two weeks they showed up at my job and escorted me out and would not let me take anything out of my office. One word comes to mind and you have to be old enough to know what it means. Branded
You didn't work for FEDEX did ya?
Nascar did it all to Jeremy, used him to scare every other driver so nascar can control everything.
Dale Jr nails it here 100%. Completely correct. We agree, we hope JM continues and does great, if he still struggling to get the help he needs.
With him having the balls to come talk to you about this, why wasnt any of those questions asked with him across the table from yall? We could have heard it from the horses mouth or at least read his eyes and body language.
Dale Jr and Kyle Petty have become the record keepers and historians of NASCAR. Love to see them work together on some projects
I used to be a huge NASCAR fan, knew who all the drivers and teams were and watched every race. Till Ted Turner got his grubby hooks into it, when was that 1977? He turned NASCAR from a fun family friendly sport into a corrupt money hungry corporate mess. I have never watched a race since and now have no idea who the drivers or teams are.
I hope your affiliation with NASCAR didn’t influence comments.
Excellent interview and guest!
I believe he got screwed!! Maybe he is somewhat at fault but they def could’ve let him back in the car! He obviously doesn’t look like a meth head!
I remember being 8 years old and my dad was obsessed with Nascar. We would go to the airports everyday. 1 day we went to one to watch DEI land and Dale Jr must've been having a bad day. I stood on the side of the road and Dale raced by in his lifted Chevy. I never respected him after that but these interviews changed that for me. You seem like a hell of a guy Dale
He didn’t do a very good job with his explanations. Why did he open the safe ? Baggies in the safe ? Dealing in stolen property ? But I never really got a real explanation of was it the adderall or meth ? And where did that come from ?so did he still take the adderall , and fail another test ?
Mayfield to SRX
Looking back, Jeremy drove for Dodge. At that time, Dodge was dominating NHRA. There was a local speed shop that built the motors for them. Supposedly it got broken into and someone destroyed all the motors. Shortly after, 2 drivers tested positive for cocaine. Their careers are over and so is the speed shop. Coincidence?
Wayne County Speed Shop.... supposedly the story I read was they had Nitrous oxide Lines in their frames to boost HP. ....
I think nascar is as crooked as a dog’s hind leg. I have no faith in their governing abilities or decision making.
All I have to say, is there’s a reason why Brian France is no longer involved in the sport and should never be in the sport again.
Jeremy is his own worst advocate. I think he was setup but it felt like we were not getting the full truth.
HP Brien, it's not possible to dispute the well proven facts. Nobody at NASCAR did the burglaries, put the stolen goods, illegal firearms in his house, nor the meth is his home safe.
He certainly didn't tell everything. And he makes himself to be an innocent bystander that kept getting "set up". No man that doesn't just happen over and over like that.
One thing to keep in the forefront of your mind when thinking about Jeremy Mayfield, or anyone for that matter who deals with addiction of any kind, is that drugs affect the brain. We are humans with survivalist instincts at the end of the day. The brain is transformed by drugs to think that the drugs are necessary for survival. So when we ask how someone could throw away their entire cup career for a drug, it is quite easy to see how from my point of view. Jeremy, IF he is an addict, is no different than 100,000,000 other addicts who struggle with decision making day to day. They have their upbringing which tells them to act a certain way, and then their frontal cortex is telling them to act a different way. This isn't a black and white, yes or no, make a decision or don't deal. Prayers for Jeremy Mayfield and anyone else out there struggling with someone the rest of us can't see.
HE WAS LYING! Yes he lied, he was tweeking and the guy who he blamed the raid on was his dealer period.
Adderall is medical meth if he had a scrip he didn’t need a dealer he could buy it legally
Great topic! As the man that was on the cover of a local newspaper, "Mountaintop Man facing 240 years in State prison", and read the contents of my Federal sealed indictment before I saw the Federal Courthouse, I am familiar with how things get out of control. Without any more information I can assure you that the thief got pinched and to get out of it, he threw Jeremy under the bus. Once a big name was thrown in the mix, law enforcement saw an opportunity to enhance their careers and the prosecutor saw potential for his career also, now to pile on as fast and as hard as possible. On the other side, you're either clean or dirty, a little bit or a lot means nothing. The science guy couldn't be impartial with a service to provide and headlines to help his popularity and pocketbook. It's all about getting cooperation and careers, not protecting the public. Ask Tim Allen how many of his friends he set up to do less then 2 years for kilos of Cocaine{trafficking weight} into an International Airport. I read his book and interviewed a friend and got 2 different stories. And myself, just a little over 6 years and no cooperation showed me that I passed the test. Keep up the good work jr.
Actually having to deal with the system makes you question it quite a bit. Its easier if hyou never see behind the curtain and just think "justice" is always being served.
@@extragoogleaccount6061 When you meet the attorney and he says he's not here to defend you, just going to sign off on your plea agreement so you can go off to prison. Then you can't contact his office because they don't accept collect calls from the county jail and he's overseas with the reserves for months during Desert Storm. I'm not eligible for a bail reduction hearing because the prosecutor will get mad. Four years in, the prosecutor comes to the State Prison to threaten me with more charges. Released twice and driven around and brought back because of a paperwork error I never saw. Truthfully, I don't question the system since I got to see how it really works. When they can change your sentence from concurrent to overlapping without telling you about it, It's Eastern European roots are quite obvious.
@@extragoogleaccount6061 Great comment.
We need to get France out of NASCAR and get a dat gum American in the head office.
Is there a place i can buy the GS hat that the other guy wears?
I figured it out. Georgia Southern :)
I think people need to come clean here, they raided his property over a piece of metal? Someone is lying about this incident for sure. A piece of metal with no serial number or identifying numbers is not traceable and no judge is signing that search warrant.
If the judge and others are being paid off they sure will sign that warrant.
Keeping in mind NASCAR was then and is now a dictatorship I think it is possible he didn't get a true fair shake when it came to the drug usage issue. Having said that, hearing his interview (Part 1) he reminded me of some of the young people that are in trouble with the law and try their best to tell a story in a way that their wrong doing is minimized and the wrong doing of others is highlighted. In other words you get part of the story but not all of the story. That was just my impression.
Dale Jr. should undoubtedly be running NASCAR. I wasn't a huge fan of his as a driver, but since he's retired he's become the steady, stable voice of NASCAR. His talent transcends driving whether he's being an analyst, a catalyst for change or even just a fan of NASCAR. He's without a doubt the most important NASCAR figure within the sport and his insight and optimism is par to none.
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