@@knowledgeuntamed9177 he used to run nascar for several years and that’s why it’s in bad shape now 🤷♂️. He was forced to step down for driving around drunk all the time and enjoying other controlled substances, the same substances he banned drivers for using
I agree but I wonder his brain is not turning to mush from all that drinking. He looks super red alcoholic looking. But I could be wrong. But it seems like he is studdering a bit.
@@MrJquintel probably because if he says the wrong thing it can reopen the can of worms and create a new lawsuit. If he ever admits it was personal mayfield would most certainly go back after him
Mayfield went and drug tested at an independent lab ..40 minutes after 1 of the suppossed positive NASCAR drug test. He tested negative at the Independent lab. Looks like a France/NASCAR jim bob billy jack Trailer kind of justice... which is not justice at all.
@@arcdestriumph586 yep and nascar has always been a good old boys club and it comes down to favoritism and personal grudges. That’s why 10 different drivers, teams or car owner could violate the EXACT SAME rule and depending on who you are they can come up with 10 different penalties for the same violation
I appreciate Brian France coming onto Jr’s show, and it helps to show who he really is. To me, he’s shown himself to be a vindictive, over-sensitive corporate politician that made a lot decisions based on ego and feelings. It’s my personal opinion that all current problems and gripes with NASCAR can be traced back to a decision that was made by him.
Yep 👍 and like I also posted iit’s ironic that he mentioned WWE because him and Vince McMahon are two peas in a pod. I really saw nothing wrong with what MWR did then or to this day. Brian created a big gimmick of a points system, which is what actually made nascar look like WWE and MWR used tried to use it to their advantage and who wouldn’t? The reason they got penalized so hard wasn’t because they broke rules. They got penalized because Brian’s new point system made him personally look like a clown for creating such a stupid points system gimmick so he laid down the hammer because he was publicly embarrassed
Totally agree with your assessment of him. The Arrogance and High Minded attitude he seems to exhibits and speak of directly shows why NASCAR popularity and following diminished under his leadership. Glad that after his own run in with the Law (Drunk, Coked Up, Pills) driving impaired self the family decided to put someone else in charge.
@@thomaspritchard6571 anybody who can’t see that Brian was a huge disaster for nascar for many reasons including his personal life are obviously not long time race fans. I remember way back when Brian crashed his car into a tree, left the car there, and fled the scene because he was likely On drugs and or alcohol . That’s was I don’t know The exact year but I think 2005 or 2006 but no charges were pressed and it was kinda kept quiet. It was finally the most recent one that got him forced into stepping down. I’m sure there’s plenty of other incidents that were kept so quiet 🤫 they didn’t even make news or police blotters
His family is Nascar and like his father Bill once said my sandbox my rules if you don't like em go race someplace else. Brian France always did what he thought was best to move the sport forward and that was his right. Whether you agree with his choices or not they were his to make. Easier to second guess others then to actually be the one having to make the decisions.
@@jimsachtjen119 the main problem is that Brian didn’t listen to the fan base and did what his ego wanted to do and what he thought would get him notoriety for shaking things up and not what was best for nascar no matter what fans said or wanted and he even had, I would say he had a contempt towards the main fan base. Bill Sr and Bill Jr may not have always listened to the drivers but they damn sure listened to the fans. A good executive knows that ultimately it’s the consumer/fan who runs and controls the entity and whether it succeeds or fails. A bad executive like Brian France thinks he and himself runs the company and ignores what their consumers say
If he did push too hard then fewer people would be willing to come on. He even mentions this at the end of this episode. No need to push for things if someone isn't willing to talk about them. He's just trying to be respectful.
A lot of the newer fans of our sport do not have a great understanding of its history, especially the business of NASCAR. Thanks for shining a light, Dale Jr
Like me, I'm 40 and only now really getting into nascar. I can't believe what I've missed out on. I really like the late 80's and 90's races. I've just been watching as many races as I can here on RUclips. I remember always liking Jeremy Mayfield in the early 2000's. I would on occasion watch a race, but never really got into it. However I do remember liking Jeremy and his style of racing. I've only just in the past few hrs learned about all this stuff. I didn't even realize Jeremy wasn't in nascar anymore. Either way, I've been non-stop hooked on nascar the past 2 weeks, and can't get enough!
I did the same. I can’t imagine going into work hungover at my age these days. I have a fellow coworker who is 44 and comes in hungover almost every single day, what a miserable existence.
@@erikscherer22 Dale Jr and Jeremy talked about it during the Mayfield episode. Jeremy took a picture with Brian's wife as a joke but Brian did not find it funny
@@jeff1176 You're conflating Jeremy's issues with Brian France and his issues with Evernham. Jeremy lost Dodge his ride with Evernham b/c he made a comment to a Chicago Tribune reporter that Evernham spent more time at the track with Erin Crocker, his Arca driver, than the NASCAR tracks where the company made their money
@@walkerking3875 you’re highly uneducated. I know this is a nascar podcast but it’s 2022, not every nascar fan is uneducated as yourself. You clearly have difficulty comprehending and retaining rudimentary English.
The whole Jeremy Mayfield situation gets me pissed. Anybody who knows even a little bit about chemistry knows Adderall is literally one carbonic bond away from being meth. If you test anybody on Adderall it will always say they are on meth but for some reason they didn't want to listen to any doctors
Only the NASCAR contracted drug tester said Mayfield failed a test... No Court or Independent lab ever gave Mayfield a positive hit. Mayfield went and drug tested 40 minutes after a test given by NASCAR.. at an independent lab.. and the independent lab said clean .. While France's said dirty. I'd like to see the contract that France signed between him and his "drug tester" ... I would bet it gave France the option to be the sole actor in saying what the test said.. or didn't say.. and gave him legal recourse against the drug tester if he contradicted France.
@@arcdestriumph586 id bet it’s not a written Contract, but a verbal one that Has France as the almighty in final decision. To smart to have any paper trail on that one. Probably had dirt on drug testing Co.
The Mayfield event should have been handled better. Given that it was a few days after the death of a former driver that NASCAR also tried to hide away from, it felt like a cover up regarding that tragedy that Brian France underestimated. Spingate was handled horribly. Lash put on Truex who had nothing to do with it. Helped out Jeff Gordon who didn't earn it for the heck of it. And as a result a buddy of mine who rooted for Bowyer has no faith or trust in ESPN thinking they started the speculation & now with them gone refuses to watch it.
It wasn't solely ESPN's fault, even Jr in his post-race interview suggested that something fishy was going on. Hell even when I was watching that race live I had a sneaky suspicion of what they were doing, it wasn't a conspiracy.
I mean NO disrespect whatsoever in saying it's still got a hell of a way's to go.......before it even becomes a remnant of the glorious motor sport it once was. Trust me. If you followed NASCAR cup racing as closely as many of us have back to the 70's & up through about 2006 ( + or - )...........you would totally understand where hundreds of thousands of us EX-fans are coming from. Dale Jr's podcast, and a few youtube channels such as "Stapleton 42" are the only things I love & follow in relation to cup car racing........and that's ONLY because much of their material is about the better days & people of NASCAR. I truly feel bad for the younger generation, and what they're left with pertaining to this sport. ( And no.........NONE of us liked Brian France.......for all of the obvious reasons. ) I can click on to watch ANY of the nascar cup races today, and it looks, sounds, and feels NOTHING like it once was. It's downright depressing, frustrating, and actually kind of eerie. Historic tracks GONE. Historic track/racing SCHEDULES totally upside down. "Play off's" and "racing periods"........the power greedy corporate freaks have turned it all into "the NFL/NBA on wheels". About the only thing they lack now, is having one of the Kardashian's as a race commentator. That's not meant as a joke either, I'm deadly serious.
@@DerrickRG You got that right. These younger race fans simply don't know any better. But you would think that by simply watching all of the past races on the better quality video from the 70's, 80's, and 90's, would give them a huge clue as to just how much better nascar cup racing USED TO be. Today's cup racing bears no comparison whatsoever. Hell, most of the younger drivers today wouldn't even be tough enough to hang in there for a 500 mile race WITHOUT "RACING PERIODS". They've got "the play offs" and "racing segments" or "periods".........if that's not "the NFL on wheels"........... I'll eat this laptop.
Brian France was an epic fail as a leader. When asked about the drug policy his response was “ oh no, we did everything correctly” . We since no one in any kind of sports handled it correctly at he beginning, his answer should have been, “ well there were things we could have done better” . That statement speaks volumes about him as a person.
that video about Richmond's last attempt to get in the Daytona 500 1988 is chilling. they knew he had AIDS and they were doing everything they could to keep him from racing.
Oh bullshit, Mayfield was doing meth. NASCAR handled it poorly but Mayfield isn't some innocent victim. Hell the dude had tons of stolen stuff on his property that he got busted for.
This man danced around the answer's to all the questions about Mayfield and the drug policy. He kept referring Nascar to stick and ball sports. It's not the same. He is so smart that he is dumb. He got book sence and no common sense. Jmo from a 45 year Nascar fan. Thanks for the podcasts and I hate that you can't get cale yarborough on. I ✌🏻
Brian France is the reason I stop watching and going to nascar races for 15 year. (It only been the past 2 or 3 years that I started to tune in from to time.) - listening to this POD cast, he seems spin his answers.
I live in Daytona and Brian got protected for things for way too long. They actually ruined his life by letting him skate. I was actually told his sister went to Duke but Brian is so brilliant college would have been a waste. Stupidest thing I had ever heard.
You don't understand what I said or why I said it. The money does not come from the fans. I was talking about TV and sponsorship money because that's where the money is TV
"It’s like you know… Is NASCAR the World Wrestling Federation?? Is this going to happen every week?? Can we rely on anything? When you get into that ball game, it's lights out, any league cannot survive too many of those…" *Brian France* - describing exactly what he did to NASCAR…
1. Spingate wouldn’t happen if it wasn’t for The Chase 2. If Brian or anybody wanted the chase controversy to stop and if they were actually smart, they should’ve ditched the chase after 2013 to avoid more controversies
Yes it was a controversy but even bad press is still good press. It brought more eyes onto the sport, when if there was no chase it would have been just another race in a 36 race schedule.
@@erikscherer22 chase caused alot of traditional fans to bail including myself. Still the biggest roadblock for me investing serious time in watching nascar. Why watch the first 26 races when they matter very little.
My dad used to say someone who stammers as much as this guy does is making it up as he goes along…for a guy who doesn’t have a speech impediment that is.
Nascar always has had a France telling you, "It's our pond and we will tell you how to fish, and we might tell to fish differently tomorrow. I have never liked the new points system, I guess I am to old school, up until the early 2000s. I also think drivers like Richard Petty, Dale Earnhardt, David Pearson, Cale Yarborough and Darrell Waltrip were able to have a small say or offer opinions in the past. I don't even watch it anymore.
They may have been able to offer opinions,but NASCAR was ran in the early days with more of an iron fist than in recent times.Big Bill France didn't take any BS,he banned Tim Flock and Curtis Turner for life for just talking about forming a driver's union.France Jr.was just as strict as his father if the situation called for it,his biggest mistake was allowing Brian France to succeed him....
Brian is so full of himself. They just told him how the drivers felt back then. He still is in his own little bubble. Saying that everything was fine. I must say people just need to get out of their politician heads. They believe their own lies.
I'm really glad you put him on because it is REAL clear that if you cross him, you'll pay. The fact that he dodged the Mayfield incident tells me that it was personal. He had his opportunity to refute Mayfield's claim of false test's and him looking down is a good indicator he's in the wrong. I think it would be interesting if you had someone from the raid team or someone from the independent lab that Mayfield claims to have a negative test from.
As always… the only consistency with NASCAR is it’s lack of consistency. BF should have been subjected to the same standards as the teams. While not done single handily, he ruined the sport of big time stock car racing.
He said it all at the end. Your credibility as a sport is everything.... Jeremy Mayfield being right would have destroyed the credibility of their program there fore that could not be allowed to happen
I agree, and that's why I think both Mayfield and France aren't giving us the whole story. I wish someone independent could give their recap of the whole ordeal and we could find out the truth.
kinda funny how all these recent uploads is just exposing all the bad things Brian France did lol… yet Dale somehow made a bruh moment into something insightful
They broke the ice by getting him on. He definitely dodged answering questions but Jr could have been more direct such as was the JM drug testing a personal attack? Transparency with the drug testing was not true as Jr said but because Brian said it was, it was 😂 NASCAR turned into huge Corp only interested in getting bigger, Tv money, and going international. What once was a great American sport is now just sports entertainment.
The France's business model came from watching Dukes of Hazard.... Boss Hogg Style. I haven't been able to find any independent lab or court linked lab that claimed Mayfield used drugs .... just NASCAR''s company/testing agent. For all the hoopla and charges and shxt cloud they threw at Mayfield.. next to nothing came of it. Sorry... but it just looks like a frame up job. The informant.. whose info led to Mayfield's house being searched.. Died in a chase fleeing from Police - had his own legal issues he was running from- Sounds like a botched "give us someone big or you're going to prison for life" deal. If Mayfield spoke candidly in his own defense.. I could care less if what he said ruffled feathers.
Thank you for a great show Dale Junior as for Brian France the best advice I could give for him would be to take a walk off the edge of the Grand Canyon. He destroyed a great sport . May NASCAR forever rest in peace
One big question l have is about the 2018 Banquet when Brian just shoved the Winston, Piston, neztel, spit cup at Martin Truex Jr. I wonder what he was saying you could see Martin was really taken back by that.
I was also "born on third base". We aren't worried about how we got there, that was God's plan. We're just focused on winning and watching the envious people turn green with their jealousy
First race for me was Dover of 2000, went to over 50+ races, season ticket holder of Richmond, when to Dover, Bristol, Charlotte, Pocono. Stopped watching a couple of years ago. Not interested in "playoff" nor a "chase". Love this show and could only wish it could go back to early 2000's . Oh, Tony Stewart fan here, but was always impressed by every driver out there. Happy Thanksgiving. Cheers !
I do not like Brain France one bit. He comes off as evasive, greedy, and deceptive. All his grand ideas of competing with stick and ball sports is insane. Nascar is a niche sport like tennis or golf. Cater to your audience and forget this casual fan crap! Nobody casually watches racing. You either like it or not.
I get the Dale needs to step cautiously with France and NASCAR but I am disappointed he didn't push France a little harder on the Mayfield situation. France started to get pretty uncomfortable even with the "softball" questions.
That ONLY the NASCAR approved Doctor was able to view the drug test/results tells you everything... Gave NASCAR complete control over the results.. and the ability to fudge the results.
He stumbles so much when asked a question. He totally forgot who Nascar was because he was SO focused on everything else - Nightly News with Brian Williams, other sports leagues, etc. Their focus was on superficial appearance outside the organization.
I noticed that, too. Especially in the other parts of this interview. He would always back his decisions with "well this is what the other sports leagues are doing". He doesn't get it, Nascar should have its own identity! Motorsports is not like other sports, nor should it be.
I have a different opinion of Brain after these interviews. And Dale Jr should be the head of NASCAR. He is brilliant! But than again he comes from the best NASCAR stock ever.
There's NO way around it, the France family has been in the sport forever, however, they become more of a detriment over time, rather than a benefit. An individual with High Awareness... someone who sees the ENTIRE picture of where NASCAR needs to be, will raise its interest to the point that non-racing fans will fall in love with the sport. It's survival depends on that. I'm coming!!!
Brian France gave a great interview, in my opinion. I never expected him to answer all the questions, or go into great detail. He probably should have been VP of marketing, or a similar title rather than CEO. He’s a natural BSer and salesman, not a calculating mind that typically runs large corporations. He definitely does have the right mindset of growing the sport. In the business world you’re either growing or dying- there’s no in between. I do appreciate him coming on, and hope he comes back.
I think we should all applaud Dale Jr's gut's here, I know he's Dale Earnhardt Junior, but the guy sitting across from him is Brian F'n France & Man oh man, the amount of guts Dale had here, to ask the tough question's is mind blowing! 🤯
It's so ironic that he busted Mayfield and he got caught doing the same crap! Carma is an amazing thing, he is a biggot and a liar! It was personal absolutely
Somebody has to do a mashup of all the “uuuuhh”s, “uhm”s and studders. This dude is out of his mind and this podcast did nothing to repair the image of BF in my opinion.
"What's a right thing to do" is just a fancy way of saying "how do we help all-mighty Hendrick in this situation". If situation was reversed (if Hendrick did what Waltrip did), there would be no penalty at all. The only reason why Gordon was put in the playoffs is because he's Jeff Gordon. If Bowyer or VIckers were cheated out in favor to Hendrick's drivers, there is no way in hell NASCAR would kick Hendrick's driver out to put in Bowyer or Vickers.
“We put Gordon into his rightful place”-No vendetta against mayfield-BS. France should run for a political office; because when he’s speaking you know he’s lying.
I'm sorry but you say "yes, we were transparent" but your drivers were scared because they had no idea what was banned or not? I mean, that's pretty opposite of the definition of transparent... doesn't matter if the information is out there IF it is NOT getting to your drivers!!
I don't think I can believe anything that he says with a kernel of truth. This is a person who practically single handedly buried his family's business. NASCAR is a joke now and I believe will never recover. Im actually surprised it still exists.
Would have loved hearing his reasoning for not penalizing Wallace more. There are several rules that nascar just glossed over in favor of Wallace and didn't do the right thing
I’m sorry but hearing Brian France talk about how important credibility is to him is laughable. The man brought up how he doesn’t want to be the WWF while he made NASCAR the WWF of motorsports. Unbelievable.
Damn I’m surprised Brian France’s pants didn’t catch on fire here. Mayfield was a fall guy and the powers that be made an example of JM for nothing more than cold medication. Brian needs to change his name to Pinocchio
I think a lot of his responses show that he should step down. When a person has to look up to every single time he responds to a question to me is not very trustworthy. I've seen a lot of people on this show old and new and none of them acted or responded in this way. He sort of reminds of Larry Flint.
Mayfield and France are two scoundrels trying to cheat each other, Brian trying to dodge any allegations of the rampant drug use he was doing and Jeremy claiming he got raided over a 1 foot chunk of steal is laughable on both sides 😂😂😂
Mayfield never said that he straight up said that that guy had parked evidently stolen stuff at the shop there, he said he didn't know it at the time which I don't know if he did or not, in saying that though I do feel like at the very least he probably had people around him that were using dope just strictly going off of the way he talked and some of the things he said, also I want to add that Adderall and meth are both amphetamines, Adderall is literally just synthetic meth and in all realities is probably actually stronger and lasts longer than meth and I'm not kidding about that
You know cops are mostly Freemasons right? You know the top end of town in NASCAR is Freemason right? You think it would be hard to get your brothers in the lodge to lean on someone?
No court or independent drug lab ever claimed a positive drug test on Mayfield... Only Boss Hogg France's hand picked and contracted drug tester. The "informant" whose information led to Mayfield's home being raided... died fleeing from police- facing his own legal issues.
@@diychad7268 and it is used by Doctors to treat proven medical issues. Should Joey fuckin Logan be penalized because of his glasses? He is artificially enhancing his performance with his glasses right?
NASCAR is not a league or sports. It's auto racing, plain and simple. If you ain't cheating, you ain't winning. Brian acts more like a commissioner or a politician, rather than a owner. All other sports are a league, no private owner, NASCAR has a owner. The best days of NASCAR are behind them because the previous people in charge stayed out of the way a let the boys play.
Mayfield spilled the beans on his boss and embarrassed NASCAR, so France made an example of him by ruining Mayfield's reputation, career, and life.
I think so.
Yes he did. The same should have happened to Brian France too
Simple and to the point, Mr.Burns!! You are exactly right!!
What Mayfield said that "embarrassed" NASCAR? Genuine question as I was not around then
@@szymonkunda2197 He outed Everham having an affair with Erin Crocker who was driving for him in the Truck Series/Xfinity. Now they're married.
This man has spent too much time around politicians he’s better at dodging questions than Tyreek Hill at dodging tackles.
Iowa called him after this episode to be their offensive coordinator for how much he kept dodging these questions
Right...like we too dumb to notice. If this man runs Nascar im surprised its still around
@@knowledgeuntamed9177luckily he’s been gone for a while
@@knowledgeuntamed9177 he used to run nascar for several years and that’s why it’s in bad shape now 🤷♂️. He was forced to step down for driving around drunk all the time and enjoying other controlled substances, the same substances he banned drivers for using
I agree but I wonder his brain is not turning to mush from all that drinking. He looks super red alcoholic looking. But I could be wrong. But it seems like he is studdering a bit.
By not answering the Jeremy Mayfield questions, we finally got the answers.
After listening to this guy, it's amazing that NASCAR didn't go completely down the sewer while he was in charge.
well he didnt mary teresa ...
It did
It kinda did though 😂
His answers abt mayfield, or lack thereof, certainly make it seem like he did have a vendetta against mayfield.
I don NOT believe it was 100% in Mayfields head. But he did bring some of it on himself. I've been in similar positions with an employer..
Since there were lawsuits involved, it could be a thing were he's not supposed to say much about it.
@@MrJquintel probably because if he says the wrong thing it can reopen the can of worms and create a new lawsuit. If he ever admits it was personal mayfield would most certainly go back after him
Mayfield went and drug tested at an independent lab ..40 minutes after 1 of the suppossed positive NASCAR drug test. He tested negative at the Independent lab. Looks like a France/NASCAR jim bob billy jack Trailer kind of justice... which is not justice at all.
@@arcdestriumph586 yep and nascar has always been a good old boys club and it comes down to favoritism and personal grudges. That’s why 10 different drivers, teams or car owner could violate the EXACT SAME rule and depending on who you are they can come up with 10 different penalties for the same violation
I appreciate Brian France coming onto Jr’s show, and it helps to show who he really is. To me, he’s shown himself to be a vindictive, over-sensitive corporate politician that made a lot decisions based on ego and feelings.
It’s my personal opinion that all current problems and gripes with NASCAR can be traced back to a decision that was made by him.
Yep 👍 and like I also posted iit’s ironic that he mentioned WWE because him and Vince McMahon are two peas in a pod. I really saw nothing wrong with what MWR did then or to this day. Brian created a big gimmick of a points system, which is what actually made nascar look like WWE and MWR used tried to use it to their advantage and who wouldn’t? The reason they got penalized so hard wasn’t because they broke rules. They got penalized because Brian’s new point system made him personally look like a clown for creating such a stupid points system gimmick so he laid down the hammer because he was publicly embarrassed
Totally agree with your assessment of him. The Arrogance and High Minded attitude he seems to exhibits and speak of directly shows why NASCAR popularity and following diminished under his leadership. Glad that after his own run in with the Law (Drunk, Coked Up, Pills) driving impaired self the family decided to put someone else in charge.
@@thomaspritchard6571 anybody who can’t see that Brian was a huge disaster for nascar for many reasons including his personal life are obviously not long time race fans. I remember way back when Brian crashed his car into a tree, left the car there, and fled the scene because he was likely
On drugs and or alcohol . That’s was I don’t know
The exact year but I think 2005 or 2006 but no charges were pressed and it was kinda kept quiet. It was finally the most recent one that got him forced into stepping down. I’m sure there’s plenty of other incidents that were kept so quiet 🤫 they didn’t even make news or police blotters
His family is Nascar and like his father Bill once said my sandbox my rules if you don't like em go race someplace else. Brian France always did what he thought was best to move the sport forward and that was his right. Whether you agree with his choices or not they were his to make. Easier to second guess others then to actually be the one having to make the decisions.
@@jimsachtjen119 the main problem is that Brian didn’t listen to the fan base and did what his ego wanted to do and what he thought would get him notoriety for shaking things up and not what was best for nascar no matter what fans said or wanted and he even had, I would say he had a contempt towards the main fan base. Bill Sr and Bill Jr may not have always listened to the drivers but they damn sure listened to the fans. A good executive knows that ultimately it’s the consumer/fan who runs and controls the entity and whether it succeeds or fails. A bad executive like Brian France thinks he and himself runs the company and ignores what their consumers say
Good to see Brian not being CEO hasn’t filled his ability to give non answers and dancing around the fucking question
Dale asks the hard questions, good for him.
100% agree.
He does, but he doesn't push for a deeper answer that makes the interviewees squirm, at least in this case.
@@stratolestele7611 but... he made him squirm....
If he did push too hard then fewer people would be willing to come on. He even mentions this at the end of this episode. No need to push for things if someone isn't willing to talk about them. He's just trying to be respectful.
@@jdf.5302 good what’s the point of the interview if you’re just gonna use kid gloves on them. Better if they don’t show up and waste our time.
Drivers at the time say the drug policy was confusing and wasn't transparent, Brian France says it was. I think I know who I'm going to believe.
Brian France still owes Jeremy Mayfield an apology
Imagine NASCAR's potential if this guy weren't driving the boat.
Or the car drunk another Paul Pelosi
It'd be a completely different sport and a better one at that
Good think he's not driving it anymore.
f1 with balls ...
Brian France couldn't pass his own drug test to this day!
he couldn't make it to the interview sober 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A lot of the newer fans of our sport do not have a great understanding of its history, especially the business of NASCAR. Thanks for shining a light, Dale Jr
Like me, I'm 40 and only now really getting into nascar. I can't believe what I've missed out on. I really like the late 80's and 90's races. I've just been watching as many races as I can here on RUclips. I remember always liking Jeremy Mayfield in the early 2000's. I would on occasion watch a race, but never really got into it. However I do remember liking Jeremy and his style of racing. I've only just in the past few hrs learned about all this stuff. I didn't even realize Jeremy wasn't in nascar anymore. Either way, I've been non-stop hooked on nascar the past 2 weeks, and can't get enough!
Man with a forked tongue he had it in for Mayfield .
I stopped going into work hungover when I was in my 20s. Rein it in, Brian.
I did the same. I can’t imagine going into work hungover at my age these days. I have a fellow coworker who is 44 and comes in hungover almost every single day, what a miserable existence.
Brian was lying about not having a personal vendetta with Jeremy. The picture with his wife!
What picture?
@@erikscherer22 Dale Jr and Jeremy talked about it during the Mayfield episode. Jeremy took a picture with Brian's wife as a joke but Brian did not find it funny
I thought was Ray Evernham's wife and he gave it to Ray as a Christmas present. So some such
@@jeff1176 You're conflating Jeremy's issues with Brian France and his issues with Evernham. Jeremy lost Dodge his ride with Evernham b/c he made a comment to a Chicago Tribune reporter that Evernham spent more time at the track with Erin Crocker, his Arca driver, than the NASCAR tracks where the company made their money
@@walkerking3875 you’re highly uneducated. I know this is a nascar podcast but it’s 2022, not every nascar fan is uneducated as yourself. You clearly have difficulty comprehending and retaining rudimentary English.
You could tell his heart rate increased when jeremy Mayfield came up.
The whole Jeremy Mayfield situation gets me pissed. Anybody who knows even a little bit about chemistry knows Adderall is literally one carbonic bond away from being meth. If you test anybody on Adderall it will always say they are on meth but for some reason they didn't want to listen to any doctors
And his face turned a redder shade of orange that DJT...lol
Only the NASCAR contracted drug tester said Mayfield failed a test... No Court or Independent lab ever gave Mayfield a positive hit. Mayfield went and drug tested 40 minutes after a test given by NASCAR.. at an independent lab.. and the independent lab said clean .. While France's said dirty. I'd like to see the contract that France signed between him and his "drug tester" ... I would bet it gave France the option to be the sole actor in saying what the test said.. or didn't say.. and gave him legal recourse against the drug tester if he contradicted France.
@@arcdestriumph586 id bet it’s not a written
Contract, but a verbal one that Has France as the almighty in final decision. To smart to have any paper trail on that one. Probably had dirt on drug testing Co.
NASCAR playoffs suck.
Have another drink Brian.
The Mayfield event should have been handled better. Given that it was a few days after the death of a former driver that NASCAR also tried to hide away from, it felt like a cover up regarding that tragedy that Brian France underestimated.
Spingate was handled horribly. Lash put on Truex who had nothing to do with it. Helped out Jeff Gordon who didn't earn it for the heck of it. And as a result a buddy of mine who rooted for Bowyer has no faith or trust in ESPN thinking they started the speculation & now with them gone refuses to watch it.
It wasn't solely ESPN's fault, even Jr in his post-race interview suggested that something fishy was going on. Hell even when I was watching that race live I had a sneaky suspicion of what they were doing, it wasn't a conspiracy.
LoL, Espn made boywer’s arm itchy 😂
@@thomasrice9903 No he thought ESPN was making up a conspiracy theory of a storyline for the "drama".
ESPN is a sell out also! Haven’t watch that crap in years. Bunch of yoke brainwashed children.
i just love how he stammers on questions knowing he doesnt want the answers to show he did wrong
I could use a lot of different adjectives to describe my impression of Brian, but the one that seems to stick out the most is "SLIMMY".
That slime is alcohol sweats
And cocaine
This interview explains why NASCAR went sideways for a bit under his watch. Glad it’s out of his hands and doing much better
I mean NO disrespect whatsoever in saying it's still got a hell of a way's to go.......before it even becomes a remnant of the glorious motor sport it once was. Trust me. If you followed NASCAR cup racing as closely as many of us have back to the 70's & up through about 2006 ( + or - )...........you would totally understand where hundreds of thousands of us EX-fans are coming from. Dale Jr's podcast, and a few youtube channels such as "Stapleton 42" are the only things I love & follow in relation to cup car racing........and that's ONLY because much of their material is about the better days & people of NASCAR. I truly feel bad for the younger generation, and what they're left with pertaining to this sport. ( And no.........NONE of us liked Brian France.......for all of the obvious reasons. ) I can click on to watch ANY of the nascar cup races today, and it looks, sounds, and feels NOTHING like it once was. It's downright depressing, frustrating, and actually kind of eerie. Historic tracks GONE. Historic track/racing SCHEDULES totally upside down. "Play off's" and "racing periods"........the power greedy corporate freaks have turned it all into "the NFL/NBA on wheels". About the only thing they lack now, is having one of the Kardashian's as a race commentator. That's not meant as a joke either, I'm deadly serious.
It's much better?
Much better? Lol. It's much worse.
@@DerrickRG You got that right. These younger race fans simply don't know any better. But you would think that by simply watching all of the past races on the better quality video from the 70's, 80's, and 90's, would give them a huge clue as to just how much better nascar cup racing USED TO be. Today's cup racing bears no comparison whatsoever. Hell, most of the younger drivers today wouldn't even be tough enough to hang in there for a 500 mile race WITHOUT "RACING PERIODS". They've got "the play offs" and "racing segments" or "periods".........if that's not "the NFL on wheels"........... I'll eat this laptop.
@@howabouthetruth2157 preach it! Agree 100%
Brian France was an epic fail as a leader. When asked about the drug policy his response was “ oh no, we did everything correctly” . We since no one in any kind of sports handled it correctly at he beginning, his answer should have been, “ well there were things we could have done better” . That statement speaks volumes about him as a person.
Drug policy and everything else. Dude ran off the core fan base trying to get the elite to be fans. I hope he's penniless.
what he did to Mayfield is despicable
Agree, he was a heck of a wheel man and I believe had a bright future!
I feel what they did to Tim Richmond was even worse....at least as far as ruining a man's good name....
that video about Richmond's last attempt to get in the Daytona 500 1988 is chilling. they knew he had AIDS and they were doing everything they could to keep him from racing.
Oh bullshit, Mayfield was doing meth. NASCAR handled it poorly but Mayfield isn't some innocent victim. Hell the dude had tons of stolen stuff on his property that he got busted for.
This man danced around the answer's to all the questions about Mayfield and the drug policy. He kept referring Nascar to stick and ball sports. It's not the same. He is so smart that he is dumb. He got book sence and no common sense. Jmo from a 45 year Nascar fan. Thanks for the podcasts and I hate that you can't get cale yarborough on. I ✌🏻
Brian France is the reason I stop watching and going to nascar races for 15 year. (It only been the past 2 or 3 years that I started to tune in from to time.) - listening to this POD cast, he seems spin his answers.
Ditto. Plus manufactured cautions. It is interesting to hear about the early days but I don't see myself becoming a fan again.
Me too. Grew up in Nascar and completely walked away. Brian France ruined our sport.
Right?! We've just wanted Jr. This whole time.
I live in Daytona and Brian got protected for things for way too long. They actually ruined his life by letting him skate. I was actually told his sister went to Duke but Brian is so brilliant college would have been a waste. Stupidest thing I had ever heard.
Brian France makes Tony George look like Bill France.
Go back to the old point system. Harder to game the system. Your points were about you. Most points win.
Then NASCAR dies financially
@@johnhaas2523 How? People pay for tickets to the races. The Chase and all of that BS doesn't matter dumbass.
You don't understand what I said or why I said it. The money does not come from the fans. I was talking about TV and sponsorship money because that's where the money is TV
"It’s like you know… Is NASCAR the World Wrestling Federation?? Is this going to happen every week?? Can we rely on anything?
When you get into that ball game, it's lights out, any league cannot survive too many of those…"
*Brian France* - describing exactly what he did to NASCAR…
1. Spingate wouldn’t happen if it wasn’t for The Chase
2. If Brian or anybody wanted the chase controversy to stop and if they were actually smart, they should’ve ditched the chase after 2013 to avoid more controversies
Yes it was a controversy but even bad press is still good press. It brought more eyes onto the sport, when if there was no chase it would have been just another race in a 36 race schedule.
@@erikscherer22 chase caused alot of traditional fans to bail including myself. Still the biggest roadblock for me investing serious time in watching nascar. Why watch the first 26 races when they matter very little.
@@erikscherer22you think the chase has brought more eyes to the sport? It’s made the long schedule mostly useless to watch
My dad used to say someone who stammers as much as this guy does is making it up as he goes along…for a guy who doesn’t have a speech impediment that is.
Nascar always has had a France telling you, "It's our pond and we will tell you how to fish, and we might tell to fish differently tomorrow. I have never liked the new points system, I guess I am to old school, up until the early 2000s. I also think drivers like Richard Petty, Dale Earnhardt, David Pearson, Cale Yarborough and Darrell Waltrip were able to have a small say or offer opinions in the past. I don't even watch it anymore.
Agree 💯, been downhill ever since.
That's what happens when a small-time sport gets big too fast.
They may have been able to offer opinions,but NASCAR was ran in the early days with more of an iron fist than in recent times.Big Bill France didn't take any BS,he banned Tim Flock and Curtis Turner for life for just talking about forming a driver's union.France Jr.was just as strict as his father if the situation called for it,his biggest mistake was allowing Brian France to succeed him....
Brian is so full of himself. They just told him how the drivers felt back then. He still is in his own little bubble. Saying that everything was fine. I must say people just need to get out of their politician heads. They believe their own lies.
Things were better for NASCAR when France was running the show than they are now...
Some of that was just politicking. Can't throw NASCAR under the bus even now, he still has to see Jim France at Thanksgiving!
Dale isn’t afraid to ask the tough questions.
I agree…big ⚾️⚾️
Did Dale ask him about his Watkins Glenn arrest?...lol
@@bryonkidder6199 or when he crashed into a tree in Daytona in someone’s front yard and left his car and fled the scene? 🤔
because Jr is the most powerful man in NASCAR atm
I'm really glad you put him on because it is REAL clear that if you cross him, you'll pay. The fact that he dodged the Mayfield incident tells me that it was personal. He had his opportunity to refute Mayfield's claim of false test's and him looking down is a good indicator he's in the wrong. I think it would be interesting if you had someone from the raid team or someone from the independent lab that Mayfield claims to have a negative test from.
As always… the only consistency with NASCAR is it’s lack of consistency. BF should have been subjected to the same standards as the teams. While not done single handily, he ruined the sport of big time stock car racing.
He pretty much did it single handedly. Ran off the core fans trying to get Hollywood to buy in.
He said it all at the end. Your credibility as a sport is everything.... Jeremy Mayfield being right would have destroyed the credibility of their program there fore that could not be allowed to happen
We’ll said Cody
Only the NASCAR contracted drug tester ever found a positive/drug test on Mayfield... No independent lab, No court ordered lab. Hmmmmmm.
I agree, and that's why I think both Mayfield and France aren't giving us the whole story. I wish someone independent could give their recap of the whole ordeal and we could find out the truth.
kinda funny how all these recent uploads is just exposing all the bad things Brian France did lol…
yet Dale somehow made a bruh moment into something insightful
The DJD producers know how to get views, pretty much everyone hates Brian France. lol
He should have asked him about his own drug history and why he still in charge of Nascar
I don't think he is still in charge of NASCAR, pretty sure his brother Jim France is
@@diychad7268 That's correct
He hasn't been involved in NASCAR for years now.
Brian France had more to do with driving Nascar in the ground than anyone.
Literally dodged every question!
They broke the ice by getting him on. He definitely dodged answering questions but Jr could have been more direct such as was the JM drug testing a personal attack? Transparency with the drug testing was not true as Jr said but because Brian said it was, it was 😂
NASCAR turned into huge Corp only interested in getting bigger, Tv money, and going international. What once was a great American sport is now just sports entertainment.
you are exactly right. This man was a poor leader.
Nascar is a business
Jr still has a team running in the Busch series.
Why do I feel like I'm being lied to the whole story long?
Kudos to dale for not backing down and asking the hard questions
Stopped listening when this man couldn't even admit that the drug implementation process nascar had wasn't a disaster
Brain France is a typical corporate leader, all ego closed mind. Just because your in charge doesn’t mean you know what you’re doing.
There was definately something personal with Jeremy Mayfield, however Jeremy caused some of his own problems by opening his mouth at the wrong times
All Jeremy did was tell the truth on Ray Evesham messing around with Aaron crocker and that was true
@@davidburchfield2720 We agree.. but, doing that to your boss is not a good idea. They made him an example.
The France's business model came from watching Dukes of Hazard.... Boss Hogg Style. I haven't been able to find any independent lab or court linked lab that claimed Mayfield used drugs .... just NASCAR''s company/testing agent. For all the hoopla and charges and shxt cloud they threw at Mayfield.. next to nothing came of it. Sorry... but it just looks like a frame up job. The informant.. whose info led to Mayfield's house being searched.. Died in a chase fleeing from Police - had his own legal issues he was running from- Sounds like a botched "give us someone big or you're going to prison for life" deal. If Mayfield spoke candidly in his own defense.. I could care less if what he said ruffled feathers.
I agree. Do I think Jeremy was framed? To an extent, but he was clearly guilty of something in one way or another
@@arcdestriumph586 You wouldn't be able to find it even if it is true....
All sorts of interesting topics Dale wanted to talk about. I'm very glad Brian said yes to being on the show.
I agree, say what you will about him but he had the guts to come on and defend some of his decisions.
Thank you for a great show Dale Junior as for Brian France the best advice I could give for him would be to take a walk off the edge of the Grand Canyon.
He destroyed a great sport .
May NASCAR forever rest in peace
Never put a drug and alcohol addict in charge of anything.
One big question l have is about the 2018 Banquet when Brian just shoved the Winston, Piston, neztel, spit cup at Martin Truex Jr. I wonder what he was saying you could see Martin was really taken back by that.
I guessing he and junior had a talk off camera about what was able to be spoken about.
Born on third base, thinks he hit a triple. Body language says it all.
I was also "born on third base". We aren't worried about how we got there, that was God's plan. We're just focused on winning and watching the envious people turn green with their jealousy
Anyone here ever heard Tim Dillon's "I wish him well" rant? I felt that here. lol.
Franz Jr, is like the Colt's owner. Except that a woman didn't allegedly die of a drug overdose in Franz"s sugar shack.
Kinda odd that a Michael Waltrip Racing vice president at that time is now working at nascar handing out penalties that were outrageous this year
Mr France is full of it !! Dale , love you and Mikes interviewing !!
First race for me was Dover of 2000, went to over 50+ races, season ticket holder of Richmond, when to Dover, Bristol, Charlotte, Pocono. Stopped watching a couple of years ago. Not interested in "playoff" nor a "chase". Love this show and could only wish it could go back to early 2000's . Oh, Tony Stewart fan here, but was always impressed by every driver out there. Happy Thanksgiving. Cheers !
Robin Miller properly called him the "Village Idiot".
I do not like Brain France one bit. He comes off as evasive, greedy, and deceptive. All his grand ideas of competing with stick and ball sports is insane. Nascar is a niche sport like tennis or golf. Cater to your audience and forget this casual fan crap! Nobody casually watches racing. You either like it or not.
I get the Dale needs to step cautiously with France and NASCAR but I am disappointed he didn't push France a little harder on the Mayfield situation. France started to get pretty uncomfortable even with the "softball" questions.
That ONLY the NASCAR approved Doctor was able to view the drug test/results tells you everything... Gave NASCAR complete control over the results.. and the ability to fudge the results.
He stumbles so much when asked a question. He totally forgot who Nascar was because he was SO focused on everything else - Nightly News with Brian Williams, other sports leagues, etc. Their focus was on superficial appearance outside the organization.
I noticed that, too. Especially in the other parts of this interview. He would always back his decisions with "well this is what the other sports leagues are doing". He doesn't get it, Nascar should have its own identity! Motorsports is not like other sports, nor should it be.
@@mistaTVD3199 Good point.
Nothing personal but, his credibility is in the gutter.
Brian France, your credibility, and NASCAR's, was lost a long time ago.
I have a different opinion of Brain after these interviews. And Dale Jr should be the head of NASCAR. He is brilliant! But than again he comes from the best NASCAR stock ever.
Thanks for the great video.
There's NO way around it, the France family has been in the sport forever, however, they become more of a detriment over time, rather than a benefit. An individual with High Awareness... someone who sees the ENTIRE picture of where NASCAR needs to be, will raise its interest to the point that non-racing fans will fall in love with the sport. It's survival depends on that. I'm coming!!!
Can you do a podcast on bobby Allison's disputed win? That would put him one ahead on Walthrup?
Great interview.
Enjoying the interviews
Brian France gave a great interview, in my opinion. I never expected him to answer all the questions, or go into great detail. He probably should have been VP of marketing, or a similar title rather than CEO. He’s a natural BSer and salesman, not a calculating mind that typically runs large corporations. He definitely does have the right mindset of growing the sport. In the business world you’re either growing or dying- there’s no in between. I do appreciate him coming on, and hope he comes back.
This MF'er ruined my love for a sport I was raised on. He single-handedly ruined NASCAR.
10:08 Because Mike, they've invented a system that has a high probability of inviting controversy almost every week of the playoffs.
It wasn't just Waltrip's team it was alot of the teams that night doing it
I think we should all applaud Dale Jr's gut's here, I know he's Dale Earnhardt Junior, but the guy sitting across from him is Brian F'n France & Man oh man, the amount of guts Dale had here, to ask the tough question's is mind blowing! 🤯
It's so ironic that he busted Mayfield and he got caught doing the same crap! Carma is an amazing thing, he is a biggot and a liar! It was personal absolutely
That comment about Mayfield- that was a whole lot of stuttering and carefully worded responses to seem truthful.
Somebody has to do a mashup of all the “uuuuhh”s, “uhm”s and studders. This dude is out of his mind and this podcast did nothing to repair the image of BF in my opinion.
As soon as jr said Jeremy Brian laughed 🤣
Franz is plain full of crap.
Nascars own worst enemy.
"What's a right thing to do" is just a fancy way of saying "how do we help all-mighty Hendrick in this situation". If situation was reversed (if Hendrick did what Waltrip did), there would be no penalty at all. The only reason why Gordon was put in the playoffs is because he's Jeff Gordon. If Bowyer or VIckers were cheated out in favor to Hendrick's drivers, there is no way in hell NASCAR would kick Hendrick's driver out to put in Bowyer or Vickers.
“We put Gordon into his rightful place”-No vendetta against mayfield-BS. France should run for a political office; because when he’s speaking you know he’s lying.
Red-faced France may have a problem of his own😉
As soon as dale asked him about Mayfield he started stuttering like Krazy
This guy is a weasel!...he should run for the Senate, he would fit right in!
What gets on my nerves more than anything, he's always like well the NBA and NFL do this an that. Like man this is racing not throw a ball sport lol
he's a business man first and a nascar traditionalist somewhere further down
please put the whole podcast on youtube..
Mike won't
I agree, I'd much rather watch a whole podcast than listen.
How can you tell that Brian France is lying? His lips are moving.
I'm sorry but you say "yes, we were transparent" but your drivers were scared because they had no idea what was banned or not? I mean, that's pretty opposite of the definition of transparent... doesn't matter if the information is out there IF it is NOT getting to your drivers!!
I don't think I can believe anything that he says with a kernel of truth. This is a person who practically single handedly buried his family's business. NASCAR is a joke now and I believe will never recover. Im actually surprised it still exists.
Would have loved hearing his reasoning for not penalizing Wallace more. There are several rules that nascar just glossed over in favor of Wallace and didn't do the right thing
Rusty or Bubba? If you are referring to Bubba, he was no longer in charge of NASCAR.
@@bc7013 Poor Kenny and Mike lol
Politics and sports of any kind kills both. Make them race what manufacturers make and see better safer cars on the road.
I’m sorry but hearing Brian France talk about how important credibility is to him is laughable. The man brought up how he doesn’t want to be the WWF while he made NASCAR the WWF of motorsports. Unbelievable.
Damn I’m surprised Brian France’s pants didn’t catch on fire here. Mayfield was a fall guy and the powers that be made an example of JM for nothing more than cold medication. Brian needs to change his name to Pinocchio
I think Jeremy Mayfield is 100Xs better than France. What a shame.
This dude almost could not handle some of the heat. Especially Mayfield
1:34 what a ridiculous answer. Being transparent about what substances are prohibited is not a HIPAA violation. It’s being fair to participants.
I think BF is full of crap on the Mayfield issue!
I think a lot of his responses show that he should step down. When a person has to look up to every single time he responds to a question to me is not very trustworthy. I've seen a lot of people on this show old and new and none of them acted or responded in this way. He sort of reminds of Larry Flint.
Welcome to 2018. That's when he stepped down
Mayfield and France are two scoundrels trying to cheat each other, Brian trying to dodge any allegations of the rampant drug use he was doing and Jeremy claiming he got raided over a 1 foot chunk of steal is laughable on both sides 😂😂😂
Mayfield never said that he straight up said that that guy had parked evidently stolen stuff at the shop there, he said he didn't know it at the time which I don't know if he did or not, in saying that though I do feel like at the very least he probably had people around him that were using dope just strictly going off of the way he talked and some of the things he said, also I want to add that Adderall and meth are both amphetamines, Adderall is literally just synthetic meth and in all realities is probably actually stronger and lasts longer than meth and I'm not kidding about that
You know cops are mostly Freemasons right? You know the top end of town in NASCAR is Freemason right? You think it would be hard to get your brothers in the lodge to lean on someone?
@@diychad7268 I agree, I found most of mayfields comments to be shady and dodgy.
No court or independent drug lab ever claimed a positive drug test on Mayfield... Only Boss Hogg France's hand picked and contracted drug tester. The "informant" whose information led to Mayfield's home being raided... died fleeing from police- facing his own legal issues.
@@diychad7268 and it is used by Doctors to treat proven medical issues. Should Joey fuckin Logan be penalized because of his glasses? He is artificially enhancing his performance with his glasses right?
NASCAR is not a league or sports. It's auto racing, plain and simple. If you ain't cheating, you ain't winning. Brian acts more like a commissioner or a politician, rather than a owner. All other sports are a league, no private owner, NASCAR has a owner. The best days of NASCAR are behind them because the previous people in charge stayed out of the way a let the boys play.