Just a note on Swiftcast, you don't have to beat Gilgamesh Island to get, recently started playing again and was able to get Swiftcast after beating one of the tempering challenges (the Titan/Bahamut one).
This was awesome. Ty for the information. Netted roughly 1.8k ap from my first run. Don't have swiftcast maxed but knowing this, I can place that on the 3x ap booster armor and run it. Give everyone ward/poison and I can farm it nice lol. Thanks again. Gave you the subscribe
@@SuperSpesh1 honestly, I'd say that run took roughly ten to fifteen minutes. All depends on your level and all on your materia builds and style of play. I'm typically a ground pound with cloud and tifa/barret and aerith/yuffie are my casters. Yuffie is multi-use.
For anybody reading this before they beat the game, in chapter 13, after you beat gilgamesh, you have to opportunity to do this in the combat simulator with chadley, you won’t get gil but can still do this method to increase experience and ap, I leveled up from 55 to 70 in about 15 minutes
I do this too but i don't use a build like this, i just use yuffie and spam windstorm, boss tends to stay out of range of windstorm if you stand next to the car
If you can get the worker bees grouped well enough, you could probably take off magnify so it doesn’t accidentally auto target her. Playing on hard also helps because she can take more damage.
I modified this to have two sets of fire magic with Cloud and Aerith, Aerith using synergy to cast. It goes by so fast I don’t know what happened. Also easy mode and just fire alpha
When can you restart the loop? Do you have to finish the side quest or as soon as the queen bee inevitably falls can you just start over from there? First time I did it had to trek back to Nibelheim and play a concert
I did this, but the Firaga with Magnify also hits the Queen Bee. Is there any way to prevent it? She dies long before I ever kill enough ton get thousands of AP.
I feel like where you are looking effects where the fire spreads to, I could be completely wrong but I as long as the queen bee is off screen she never gets hit by the magnified fire. I usually do the hold square attack so the bees come to cloud, and then when they are on the ground, cast the spell and just look straight down at the worker bees.
Just did this method this morning and it was insane thank you. Got a question where do we get 8 slot materia gear? I’ve only managed to find the one in Nibelheim that gets 6. And do weapons get 8 slots?
This is a great method. However, the Queen Bee constantly gets caught in the crossfire no matter where i stand or run around. She always hovers quickly to the worker bees. Any suggestions? I can only do this for max 5 minutes and then i need to restart the quest.
My party members usually have her distracted. Could the material that draws aggro from enemies help maybe? I always stand by the truck and wait for them to spawn.
@@Soldier1stClass Thanks, the Provoke materia only helps when other party members are close to 0 HP. Standing by the truck, but the Queen Bee just flies there and gets in the way haha. Anyway, thanks for helping, the method is great anyways, just have to replay the mission.
Hey I came from ur first video thx for the link first I noticed I also can get 22,000xp and some times 58,000 which is crazy in this quest So my question is the armband says for all matira set into this armor So it works for all party even tho the character with armband is not in the party ?
I found doing dynamic was better and less aoes.. the bottleneck is respawn time if you kill all of them the mob looks like an idiot for longer and doesn't spawn shit in for a bit so your party just wails on the boss but if you keep cloud and just braver spam on Dynamic you can take out two pretty consistently and that'll prompt the boss to start spawning more in.
@@Soldier1stClass If the queen bee’s Health gets too low, is it possible to intentionally die in the fight so you can restart from the beginning of the battle while retaining all XP, Gil and AP?
No matter how fast you beat them, you get the same amount, BUT, the faster you kill them, the faster the Queen spawns them. The longer she stays alive, the better too.
Say if you're in battle and you want to end the battle. Apparently retry battle doesn't save your ap you earned so have to pretty much kill the queen bee to retain your ap?
Wow! I'd noticed the respawning so had been farming in Brutal Challenge: Unending Nightmare in the simulator which has a Queen Bee in the first round with Fira + Magnify. Came to see what other folks had figured out... and I was on the right track, but this method is way better if it applies to the whole party. I also had no idea boost materia with multiple magic materia could merge... yikes! Question: Does resetting the quests lose them for good, or can you restore your completed progress when restarting a chapter?
I commented on your other AP video before seeing this one haha. I'm a little behind the curve, but I'll still ask again. Would restarting the battle before the queen bee let you keep the AP. I know it works for EXP but if it works for AP then it would also cut down on time used to reset the farm I would think
@@Soldier1stClass alright I had a moment to test it while my daughter took her nap. Sadly it doesn't work that way and only gives the AP when you finish the battle. But I did put the difficulty in Dynamic and noticed that the Queen stays alive just as long as Hard if not longer and you don't have the issue of no items and stuff like that!
@@Soldier1stClass I also learned 2 other things that I don't remember seeing in comments or anything. With this AP method, since Cait isn't in the party his materia doesn't gain any AP. But he does gain EXP just at a slightly reduced rate from the rest of the party. Which is interesting why he doesn't gain AP but does get EXP a fun little bit of info haha
Not a terrible idea, but my counterpoint to that is that Cloud or whoever your main is would also need to self sustain everything, and that includes poison, health, MP, etc. You can do it, but it’s nice not having to have just one character do everything. Especially since the other characters don’t cast spells or use advanced techniques unless you set them up with the “auto” materia. They just do small chip damage til you say otherwise.
Nope, this is the original channel. After doing some thinking and consulting with other friends and content creator friends, I decided to play it and talk about it on my terms instead of letting the people who harassed me have any power over me anymore. Cause if I don’t, then I let them win, and I’ll be damned if I’m gonna let those people have something over me.
@@Soldier1stClass well I'm very happy to have you back. You were my favorite source of FF7 Remake news and tips and I truly hated to have you abandon FF7 remake. On that note I cant wait to see more Rebirth videos and lastly please bring back your kick ass intro you used to have
Thank you 🙏 honestly that really means a lot. I missed you guys a lot over the years! I actually removed the intro for the guides cause I don’t wanna bog down the videos for people. I’ll still do it for regular videos, but these I cut them out for a more concise video.
Best farming spot for me was the Sahagins in Cosmo Canyon, quick, easy to kill (in normal), and lots of AP. Just give Aerith an Ice - Magnify; Ice - Swiftcast, and this HP-MP Materia, and rinse and repeat. Use Chocobo Armband + AP Up materia for quick gains on those blue materias hard to level up.
Nope. You get it from beating Gilgamesh island and buying it from chadley after the cutscenes are over. Don’t have to even play it on hard or anything.
Once you finish the game, you use the reset quest data option in chapter select, when it asks you about quests. But don’t worry, if you use that option and then decide you’re done with the farm, you just have to go to chapter select again and select restore previous completion data. It doesn’t erase your finished side quest.
This works great, Im currently doing it. How do i finish it though? It appears retry battle will not retain AP and i haven't died so i dont know if that will retain it. Do i just kill the queen and restart chapter select if i need more AP? Thanks again though, it works wonders.
Chapter 13 allows you to fast travel immediately after the cutscene, chapter 12 makes you use the Tiny Bronco for a few minutes before you can even do anything else. So Chapter 13 is just faster. Cait Sith also still levels up even if he’s not in the party in that chapter til later. Not sure about his Materia, but I just pulled the Materia I wanted to max from him and put it on someone else for the run.
Do you want to hear something amazing? I was farm and guard bees for 5 hours in the battle simulator and I want to check my materia on my other characters and it didn't progress at all😊 I did equip the most important stuff to my main party that I was using but everyone should know right now if you are going to go to the battle simulator that you will not get AP for your inactive party members I'm not really mad about this because I had most stuff equipped that I wanted to level because it is part of my build however I think it's important to remember this fact because in this challenge called unending nightmare your first enemy is a giant bee just like the one here and it's a good place to grind but do not grind to get characters that are NOT FIGHTING any AP I WAS WONDERING WHY SO MANY OF MY MATERIA WERE LOW AFTER SO MUCH BATTLING BUT NOW I'M REALIZING IT IS BECAUSE THE BATTLE SIMULATOR IS WHERE I'VE BEEN FOR THE PAST 60 HOURS TRYING TO BEAT THESE BRUTALS. It's just a warning to anybody who says oh there's a bee in the combat sim. It's also a reminder that even though I have problems with this game that there are so many intricacies that I'm actually starting to like it again
@@Soldier1stClass U can go to any Chadley in any zone and he will have it. Only thing is that u need to meet Gilgamesh and once quest to temper his Genji protoleric begins u can go to any Chadley/ develop/ meridian page and it will show u materia ready to make. If u will check him before meeting Gilgamesh, Chadley/ develop/ meridian sea zone will show as empty. I was doing it in chapter 13
Yeah uh, I’m on hard mode at max level with max materia and the battle simulator is beating my ass constantly. I’ve only just made it to the final boss of Rulers of the Outer World. And that bastard is hard as hell. So trust me, maxing out means nothing other than being prepared
Still means all your materia isn’t getting AP. Only the 3 people you’re using. In my method you get AP for everyone that has materia on them except Cait Sith. Which you could do this in Chapter 12 but it takes a bit to get to where you can do the quest from that chapter.
The thing that makes this method so great is that the queen just keeps spawning them. So if you keep her alive and have MP absorb on your fire spell, you can farm this as long as she’s alive. No resetting, no starting the combat sim/colosseum, etc.
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Thanks for watching everyone! Hope this helps you max out all your materia with this AP Farm!
This is glorious! Thanks dude, best AP farm by light years.
Glad it’s helped!!
Just a note on Swiftcast, you don't have to beat Gilgamesh Island to get, recently started playing again and was able to get Swiftcast after beating one of the tempering challenges (the Titan/Bahamut one).
This was awesome. Ty for the information. Netted roughly 1.8k ap from my first run. Don't have swiftcast maxed but knowing this, I can place that on the 3x ap booster armor and run it. Give everyone ward/poison and I can farm it nice lol.
Thanks again. Gave you the subscribe
Glad it helped and welcome to the channel!
Dude seriously thank you. Redoing it the way I mentioned, brought swiftcast from 2k to 6.9k in one run. You da man
i never once thought of using multiple fire materias for one person. Mind blowing actually
how long was your first run out of curiosity? Thanks.
@@SuperSpesh1 honestly, I'd say that run took roughly ten to fifteen minutes. All depends on your level and all on your materia builds and style of play. I'm typically a ground pound with cloud and tifa/barret and aerith/yuffie are my casters. Yuffie is multi-use.
Nice lol this is also how I went from level 58 to 70 in 10 minutes.
Yeah this trick does a LOT. You get crazy experience, AP, and Gil. I have nearly 1 million Gil just from doing runs of this
@@Soldier1stClass Damn! Yeah I might have to revisit it haha I'm maxed out level wise but could definitely use some AP and Gil as well.
Are the hard mode vr challenges that hard? Recently did dynamic normal and beat the duo summons first try and Gilgamesh in 2 try’s
Yeah hard mode is a real bastard
I wonder what we can do with all the gil. There's not much stuff useful for hard mode to buy.@@Soldier1stClass
This ap farm is insane. Thank you!
You’re welcome!
You got a new channel? The channel I was following you said you was done with ff7 remake trilogy so I'm confused
This was the method I used. Thank you for the amazing tip :)
Glad to help!!
For anybody reading this before they beat the game, in chapter 13, after you beat gilgamesh, you have to opportunity to do this in the combat simulator with chadley, you won’t get gil but can still do this method to increase experience and ap, I leveled up from 55 to 70 in about 15 minutes
Which simulator challenge?
@@agarciahunter chadley combat simulator challange
@@andrieputra Which simulator challenge?
This was way faster than any other method 😊
I do this too but i don't use a build like this, i just use yuffie and spam windstorm, boss tends to stay out of range of windstorm if you stand next to the car
Thanks for the Strat! One question though, any tips how to keep the queen alive? She keeps getting roasted in the cross fire really quickly...
If you can get the worker bees grouped well enough, you could probably take off magnify so it doesn’t accidentally auto target her. Playing on hard also helps because she can take more damage.
I modified this to have two sets of fire magic with Cloud and Aerith, Aerith using synergy to cast. It goes by so fast I don’t know what happened. Also easy mode and just fire alpha
When can you restart the loop? Do you have to finish the side quest or as soon as the queen bee inevitably falls can you just start over from there? First time I did it had to trek back to Nibelheim and play a concert
Just go to chapter select immediately after killing her. You don’t have to finish the side quest.
@@Soldier1stClassawesome thank you. Trying to level up those last blue materials and this will cut down the time drastically
I did this, but the Firaga with Magnify also hits the Queen Bee. Is there any way to prevent it? She dies long before I ever kill enough ton get thousands of AP.
I usually stand by the truck and wait for the bees to spawn. Usually she won’t get caught in the crossfire if you stand there.
I feel like where you are looking effects where the fire spreads to, I could be completely wrong but I as long as the queen bee is off screen she never gets hit by the magnified fire. I usually do the hold square attack so the bees come to cloud, and then when they are on the ground, cast the spell and just look straight down at the worker bees.
You don't need magnify. Just use clouds regular atk to where he groups the bees together. Then firaga as they fall down. They all die.
Just did this method this morning and it was insane thank you. Got a question where do we get 8 slot materia gear? I’ve only managed to find the one in Nibelheim that gets 6. And do weapons get 8 slots?
Weapons don’t get them, and both of the armors are in the temple of the ancients
Chapter 12 is better as you have Cait too.
What ability/move is it that you’re using on Cloud to collect the enemies around you? Holding square for me just does a combo attack.
I just hold square. Maybe you have to hit it once and then hold it. Not sure. I just hold square and he does the pull for me.
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This is a great method. However, the Queen Bee constantly gets caught in the crossfire no matter where i stand or run around. She always hovers quickly to the worker bees. Any suggestions? I can only do this for max 5 minutes and then i need to restart the quest.
My party members usually have her distracted. Could the material that draws aggro from enemies help maybe? I always stand by the truck and wait for them to spawn.
@@Soldier1stClass Thanks, the Provoke materia only helps when other party members are close to 0 HP. Standing by the truck, but the Queen Bee just flies there and gets in the way haha. Anyway, thanks for helping, the method is great anyways, just have to replay the mission.
Step one. Have all the materia already mastered
Wait does resetting the fight keep the ap you gain too or no?
No. Resetting the fight only retains XP
Hey I came from ur first video thx for the link first I noticed I also can get 22,000xp and some times 58,000 which is crazy in this quest
So my question is the armband says for all matira set into this armor
So it works for all party even tho the character with armband is not in the party ?
As long as you have it equipped on someone, that person will get the 3 times AP on that materia slotted in
I am confused if you reset your quest data do you still get rewards from them even after you completed them on Easy etc??
Yes. Not only do you get the EXP, AP, and Gil from them, on hard mode you get manuscripts from them
I found doing dynamic was better and less aoes.. the bottleneck is respawn time if you kill all of them the mob looks like an idiot for longer and doesn't spawn shit in for a bit so your party just wails on the boss but if you keep cloud and just braver spam on Dynamic you can take out two pretty consistently and that'll prompt the boss to start spawning more in.
I gotta level up before going into hard mode
This trick will actually level you all the way to 70 as you do it. No need to worry about leveling up first!
@@Soldier1stClass If the queen bee’s Health gets too low, is it possible to intentionally die in the fight so you can restart from the beginning of the battle while retaining all XP, Gil and AP?
@Chocomunchie you’ll only retain Exp. AP will get reset. I haven’t paid attention to Gil enough to know.
@@Soldier1stClass Good to know, thanks.
@@Soldier1stClass gil also resets
Plus I noticed also if u beat them fast enough u get more xp and ap instead of what u get if u took ur time or am I wrong ?
No matter how fast you beat them, you get the same amount, BUT, the faster you kill them, the faster the Queen spawns them. The longer she stays alive, the better too.
Thanks, I used this for level 70. Definitely want to be kitted out for hard mode playthrough.
You’ll definitely need it. These combat sims are BRUTAL
Say if you're in battle and you want to end the battle. Apparently retry battle doesn't save your ap you earned so have to pretty much kill the queen bee to retain your ap?
Yep. Exactly right.
Thx
Yeah that’s maxing I’ll say
Thank you buddy for making this awesome hints for final fantasy 7 God bless you and bless your family ameen
You’re very welcome!! Hoped it helped!
@@Soldier1stClass thanks buddy you're the best 😊
Wow! I'd noticed the respawning so had been farming in Brutal Challenge: Unending Nightmare in the simulator which has a Queen Bee in the first round with Fira + Magnify. Came to see what other folks had figured out... and I was on the right track, but this method is way better if it applies to the whole party. I also had no idea boost materia with multiple magic materia could merge... yikes! Question: Does resetting the quests lose them for good, or can you restore your completed progress when restarting a chapter?
You can restore all completed quests as far as I know, but you’ll have to redo some anyway for the platinum trophy
@@Soldier1stClass Cool... thanks!
I commented on your other AP video before seeing this one haha. I'm a little behind the curve, but I'll still ask again. Would restarting the battle before the queen bee let you keep the AP. I know it works for EXP but if it works for AP then it would also cut down on time used to reset the farm I would think
I believe you only retain XP. You could test it if you’re feeling brave though lmao
I'll test it later tonight and report back!
@@Soldier1stClass alright I had a moment to test it while my daughter took her nap. Sadly it doesn't work that way and only gives the AP when you finish the battle. But I did put the difficulty in Dynamic and noticed that the Queen stays alive just as long as Hard if not longer and you don't have the issue of no items and stuff like that!
@rileygrammer9108 good to know!!
@@Soldier1stClass I also learned 2 other things that I don't remember seeing in comments or anything. With this AP method, since Cait isn't in the party his materia doesn't gain any AP. But he does gain EXP just at a slightly reduced rate from the rest of the party. Which is interesting why he doesn't gain AP but does get EXP a fun little bit of info haha
I think this was nerfed, because im not getting nearly the ap per enemy, everything is set the same.
Have you beaten the game? Because you unlock x3 exp and AP once you do. Thats why the values are so high
@@Soldier1stClass Yep, beat the game and still nothing. It's roughly cut in half.
@@Soldier1stClass The exp seems to be the same though...
Just curious, couldnt we do normal one and just make the two others frogs so they dont meddle with the boss much?
You could actually
You could go that route, but, you’re using Firaga and Magnify, and that’ll shred the Queen bee on normal. Hard mode keeps her alive a lot longer.
I do this and use Tifa. I use Omnistrike to quickly kill the bees as soon as they spawn. This lets me keep the loop without ever hitting the Queen.
Does Materia equipped on Cait Sith level up as well? He's unavailable during Chapter 13
I don’t believe so. He still gains experience though.
No he does not gain any ap
When he leaves your party he gives back his armor, accessory and also his materia, so he doesn’t gain ap
Should probably give enfeeblement rings to your party members so you can control when the boss is getting hit
Not a terrible idea, but my counterpoint to that is that Cloud or whoever your main is would also need to self sustain everything, and that includes poison, health, MP, etc. You can do it, but it’s nice not having to have just one character do everything. Especially since the other characters don’t cast spells or use advanced techniques unless you set them up with the “auto” materia. They just do small chip damage til you say otherwise.
You got a new channel? The channel I was following you said you was done with ff7 remake trilogy so I'm confused
Nope, this is the original channel. After doing some thinking and consulting with other friends and content creator friends, I decided to play it and talk about it on my terms instead of letting the people who harassed me have any power over me anymore. Cause if I don’t, then I let them win, and I’ll be damned if I’m gonna let those people have something over me.
@@Soldier1stClass well I'm very happy to have you back. You were my favorite source of FF7 Remake news and tips and I truly hated to have you abandon FF7 remake. On that note I cant wait to see more Rebirth videos and lastly please bring back your kick ass intro you used to have
Thank you 🙏 honestly that really means a lot. I missed you guys a lot over the years! I actually removed the intro for the guides cause I don’t wanna bog down the videos for people. I’ll still do it for regular videos, but these I cut them out for a more concise video.
Wow..... I really should've went over this video before releasing cause uh, that materia edit was awful LMFAO
Do I need to finish the quest each time? I’m tired of playing the piano lmao
Nope. As soon as you beat the Queen, go to chapter select and do it all over again
Does going to chapter 12 and resetting quest status not work too?
It does, but you have to wait much longer to jump into the action than chapter 13
Best farming spot for me was the Sahagins in Cosmo Canyon, quick, easy to kill (in normal), and lots of AP. Just give Aerith an Ice - Magnify; Ice - Swiftcast, and this HP-MP Materia, and rinse and repeat. Use Chocobo Armband + AP Up materia for quick gains on those blue materias hard to level up.
Don't you have to beat one of the hardest combat sims to get swift cast?
Nope. You get it from beating Gilgamesh island and buying it from chadley after the cutscenes are over. Don’t have to even play it on hard or anything.
Am i still able to do this ap farming in chapter 13 even if I finished this angel quest many chapters ago?
I think you need to finish the game so you unlock chapter selection
Once you finish the game, you use the reset quest data option in chapter select, when it asks you about quests. But don’t worry, if you use that option and then decide you’re done with the farm, you just have to go to chapter select again and select restore previous completion data. It doesn’t erase your finished side quest.
This was exactly what I needed
Glad it helped!
This works great, Im currently doing it. How do i finish it though? It appears retry battle will not retain AP and i haven't died so i dont know if that will retain it. Do i just kill the queen and restart chapter select if i need more AP? Thanks again though, it works wonders.
Yeah don’t retry because it removes all AP. Just go back to chapter select and repeat the process
Why not just retry the battle when you are done ?
You won’t gain AP if you retry the battle
Retrying resets AP. You only keep the experience
Excellent breakdown. Thank you for putting this together.
Hope it helped!
You dont have to finish Gilgamesh island to get swiftcast.
I think you just need to find it.
You do need at least 1 Protorelic quest on Gilgamesh Island
This is so baller!!
It's definitely an insane amount of AP in a short amount of time
Why chapter 13 and not 12?
Chapter 13 allows you to fast travel immediately after the cutscene, chapter 12 makes you use the Tiny Bronco for a few minutes before you can even do anything else. So Chapter 13 is just faster. Cait Sith also still levels up even if he’s not in the party in that chapter til later. Not sure about his Materia, but I just pulled the Materia I wanted to max from him and put it on someone else for the run.
@@Soldier1stClassgotcha, yeah that's fair. Appreciate the video
@@Soldier1stClassI don't know that his materia levels... good to know he still levels, though.
Do you want to hear something amazing? I was farm and guard bees for 5 hours in the battle simulator and I want to check my materia on my other characters and it didn't progress at all😊
I did equip the most important stuff to my main party that I was using but everyone should know right now if you are going to go to the battle simulator that you will not get AP for your inactive party members I'm not really mad about this because I had most stuff equipped that I wanted to level because it is part of my build however I think it's important to remember this fact because in this challenge called unending nightmare your first enemy is a giant bee just like the one here and it's a good place to grind but do not grind to get characters that are NOT FIGHTING any AP
I WAS WONDERING WHY SO MANY OF MY MATERIA WERE LOW AFTER SO MUCH BATTLING BUT NOW I'M REALIZING IT IS BECAUSE THE BATTLE SIMULATOR IS WHERE I'VE BEEN FOR THE PAST 60 HOURS TRYING TO BEAT THESE BRUTALS.
It's just a warning to anybody who says oh there's a bee in the combat sim.
It's also a reminder that even though I have problems with this game that there are so many intricacies that I'm actually starting to like it again
When my main partner weekend is over...guess what I'll have to look forward too...that sweet sweet grind fellas. 🎉❤
Good luck! Let me know if this helped you!!
One thing. To get swiftcast u need to get 5 meridian see points. Each Gilgamesh shrine will give u 10 points so u can do it before u challenge him.
Can you get it before fighting him? Cause I could swear Chadley didn’t show up to let me shop til Gilgamesh Island was finished.
@@Soldier1stClass U can go to any Chadley in any zone and he will have it. Only thing is that u need to meet Gilgamesh and once quest to temper his Genji protoleric begins u can go to any Chadley/ develop/ meridian page and it will show u materia ready to make. If u will check him before meeting Gilgamesh, Chadley/ develop/ meridian sea zone will show as empty.
I was doing it in chapter 13
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Welcome back!
But how would it be fun anymore if you play Hard Mode with maxed out stats?
You definitely haven't play hard mode then ;) good luck my friend 😂
Yeah uh, I’m on hard mode at max level with max materia and the battle simulator is beating my ass constantly. I’ve only just made it to the final boss of Rulers of the Outer World. And that bastard is hard as hell. So trust me, maxing out means nothing other than being prepared
Hard mode is based around you having maxed everything
All enemies are lvl 70 on hard mode. and its not necessarily maxed out stats
How does this compare to the 10 battles on Battle Simulator with Aerith just spamming Quake method?
I would assume in that method only her Materia would get AP which doesn’t do you much good
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You can bring 3 chars into it
Still means all your materia isn’t getting AP. Only the 3 people you’re using. In my method you get AP for everyone that has materia on them except Cait Sith. Which you could do this in Chapter 12 but it takes a bit to get to where you can do the quest from that chapter.
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Ok looks like the Colosseum method is faster than the simulator…
The thing that makes this method so great is that the queen just keeps spawning them. So if you keep her alive and have MP absorb on your fire spell, you can farm this as long as she’s alive. No resetting, no starting the combat sim/colosseum, etc.