Kathryn Hahn’s acting in that hallucination scene, the way her face changed so expertly and believably, man. So, SO good. This ep was FIRE. Can’t wait for next week!
Also she drank significantly more My prediction is the next episode is the one with the Ouija board where they will contact her spirit Also since the episode names are following the witches road song guessing the next episode is called “If one be gone, we carry on, spirit as our guide”
@@gingerdog8203I don’t think it has to be said exactly the same but it does make you listen closer to dialogue in later episodes in case it’s a hint to who dies next.
in the last episode she also randomly named tarot cards so looking into those meanings will probably give us hints to the future as well. She said Three Of Pentacles when writing the list of names and The High Priestess when meeting Jennifer
Wanda's children have part of Mephisto in them! So even if he is Billy, part of Mephisto is in him. Also Billy never said his mother died, he said his mother went to see Laurna Wu before she died.
Not sure if they're going the same route with Billy, Tommy, and Mephisto as they did in the comics. This time it may just be that they're disembodied souls, rather than fragments of Mephisto
As she was trying to do here, I think Agatha cheated/ broke the rules last time she was on the road and got to the end and she was given what she wanted most (the darkhold), but as a punishment for cheating she lost what she loved most- her son. So technically, she did "trade" him for it but not on purpose.
And this time, the road made sure she didn't cheat by removing the front doorknob and refilling the glass of wine whenever she poured it out to avoid drinking it.
I will say that I now know who Aubrey Plaza’s character is, based on a funko leak that I won’t post here (seriously, avoid it, it’s a complete confirmation, no wiggle room) and…wow. I can’t wait to see it play out.
@@indrasishchakraborty5953 I kind of hope that villain doesn’t, to be honest. If that wasn’t already done, I don’t really want it shoehorned in after the fact just to make my little comic book nostalgia feels tingle, personally.
Ugh, that sucks. How is it that companies don't know how to properly do merch without revealing spoilers? Back when The Phantom Menace was coming out, Pepsi had a promotion where cans would have pictures and descriptions of characters. There was a can for Padme and one for Princess Amidala, no indication whatsoever that they were the same.
I initially thought she would return, I love her character. But they need a green witch which Sharon isn't, and they need to have Rio Vidal show up at some point.
The Mephisto name drop threw me lmao I didn't think they'd actually mention him but here we are Also Kathryn's acting in this episode was amazing. The Darkhold scene actually gutted me; I wasn't expecting the show to give Agatha that much emotional depth but Kathryn nailed it. If Teen actually is her son I'm starting to wonder if Agatha's final test is going to involve her once again needing to choose between power and her own child. The Road is meant to lead you to what you want most, so which does she want more? Getting her power back or getting her son back?
the scene with the crib is a really big example of the emotional depth we're getting with Agatha but i also really liked the smaller, subtler things that hint that a lot of Agatha's callousness is at least partly a defense mechanism. she immediately jumps in to drink the poison the second Teen offers to do it, which is in contrast to how flippant she is about him and everyone else for the most part. when Lillia is traumatised by her hallucinations, Agatha is surprisingly gentle and doesn't mock her or make any digs about it. when Jen starts panicking, Agatha doesn't throw insults and while she makes it clear that she doesn't /like/ Jen, she respects her work and capability, which grounds Jen enough for her to remember the last ingredient. and when they're rushing to get Sharon the antidote, she asks if it worked with clear concern, and only starts being flippant and callous again when it seems like it didn't
I love that Agatha is her own worst enemy in this so far and it seems like "teen" is there to call her on it. I'm willing to be he does have some connection to her son as a result though.
I don’t know why I’m still convinced teen is Wanda’s son, I feel like it’d make more sense to add him into the story now since they’ve been introducing a lot of the young avengers.
I didn't notice at first, but what Lilia is saying randomly are divinations, in the second episode she screams and puts her hands over her head, as if she was protecting herself, or running away from something.... later in the same episode all the witches run and scream towards the Witch's Road running away from the Salem Seven, and before they sing the Ballad she shouts "GET OFF ME" exactly what Sharron says in this episode. Now we have two subtle lines from her that don't fit into the conversation, one is "I love u guys" and "Try to save Agatha".... if this is right then the next episode could be very interesting...
I was going to say that at don't see them add all the hair because of the hallucination, but if they almost forgot to give her the potion, they definitely forgot her hair too
Okay, them trying so hard to push the "Teen is Nick Scratch" idea in episode 3 makes me now think it *can't* be him 😂 So Billy Kaplan with Billy Maximoff's soul still? Maybe. Either way, what I find interesting is that, despite Agatha's cold exterior most of the time (and even at the end here), she showed real empathy for Lilia when Lilia had her hallucination, she showed concern for Teen when he threatened to drink the poison, and she seemed truly traumatized by her own hallucination despite ostensibly having made the choice to sell her son for the Darkhold. There are layers to Agatha that she hides behind a facade, and I get the feeling we'll be seeing that facade peel away throughout the trials.
I saw some people point out that maybe Teens accident from 3 years ago “Wandavision” timeframe was when Billy’s mind went into the body of Billy Kaplan during the car accident mentioned in episode 1
yeah he is hidden to ALL witchkind, which is another point for the Billy theory, i’m guessing wanda would want her son protected from all kinds of witches
I think it’ll still end up being Billy Maximoff (now Kaplan) in the end, but they’re laying breadcrumbs to misdirect and make us think (along with Agatha, in the show) that Teen being Nick Scratch reincarnated is a possibility, just to rip the rug away and break Agatha’s heart all over again at the end.
I feel like she's gonna bond with him, thinking it's her son. And then boom in the last episodes she's gonna get bamboozled because it's actually Wanda's son. That Wanda hate meter is gonna go maximum lol
I'm thinking they're gonna make Billy a reincarnation of both Nicky and Billy Maximoff. This will make Agatha and Wanda both mothers to him. This would also, more than likely, force the two of them to develop a respect for one another in the future, as in the comics Wanda and Agatha become allies, with Agatha kind of serving as a mentor/oracle to Wanda. Should be interesting to see how this all unfolds.
I think Agatha did not sacrifice her son willingly. I think either she was tricked into doing it by someone (Rio) or perhaps someone else (Rio) sacrificed her son for the book. It makes sense how Agatha is cares for Rio but also angry with her. It could also be foreshadowed when Rio asked Agatha (which she' still under Wanda's spell) if Agatha remembers why she hates Rio. Perhaps they were lovers/partners in the past, they wanted the book of the damned, Rio discovered it needs a child sacrifice, so she sacrificed Agatha's baby. When Agatha discovered what Rio did, she stole the book and ran away from Rio never to be seen again until the book was destroyed by Wanda.
I think when Teen said "don't be such a bummer" I think he was referring to her saying "maybe this is the end" as if he thought she meant "the end of us" which i guess it was her end.
I think Agatha believes Teen might be her son. Gawd it’s gonna hurt when she finds out who he really is. Glad the show is leaning hard on the Nicholas Scratch theory cause when the twist of his identity happens is gonna be so good.
i like how the protection witch is showed as protective even without using magic. she’s the one who pulled Mrs. Hart out of the sinking swamp, she also was the only one initially trying to carry Mrs. Hart’s body to the oven exit, and she’s also the last one to exit the first trial, making sure everyone else got out first.
I think Sharon died because even if she was given the antidote in time, her hair wasn't in the concoction...? Because during the "put a strand of your hair" section, Agatha had her hallucination and that was only seconds before they drunk the antidote and Alice remembered Sharon still need her dose of the antidote. SO maybe they forgot to add her hair in there which is part of the prerequisite for the antidote to work...?
I kinda hope they stick with the Wizard of Oz theme since you could say this episode was a Test of Knowledge based off of what Agatha said to Jen towards the end of the trial, similar to the Scarecrow wanting brains from the Wizard. If the pattern follows, maybe next will be a Test of Heart followed by a Test of Courage. I guess you could argue Alice and something with her mother could constitute the Heart test, but she did seemed pretty scared of her mom too like she and their family curse gave her a lot of trauma, so maybe that could be the Courage test instead. Lilia’s test could be Heart as well since she seems to have the most passion and respect for her witch-kin too. It’s kind of a reach, but it’s my head canon until proven otherwise. Can’t wait for the next episode!
You guessed a character in AOS was Blackheart. Lol. Now this show. You’re becoming NewRockstars always guessing Mephisto. That being said, watch you be right. Lol.
It kills me on the rewatch that Sharon says "Maybe this is the end!" when they get to the house, followed by "OMG, bury me in that kitchen!"... but what really breaks my heart is that her last conscious moments were her reliving the worst bit of the last time a witch messed with her life 😢
I think that the black heart character is a death witch and the reason I think that is her magic is green and Thor’s sister Hella uses green colored magic and she has domain over undead as well as in trailers we seen her crawl out from the ground and seeing who dies at the end of this makes me feel that’s her way of getting to the road, even though she’s not part of the coven. Also the fight and the first part she says she can drain her in. Agatha says it would kill her so if her magic is death itself, I think that stands up and that might be why she doesn’t like her because she took somebody and didn’t raise them back from the dead. It could also be why the black heart character can’t kill Agatha and Agatha definitely can’t kill her.
Did you pick up on the Colorado reference? That’s where Nicholas Scratch created the Salem 7 in “New Salem” so this show is definitely sticking to the comics. And I think you’re right this could go either way but I think “The Teen” could actually be her real son undercover as Nicholas Scratch as an agent of Mephisto. Yeah we probably judged this prematurely. 97% agree. I’m excited to see what direction this goes. I think the next trial will be the 70’s disco regarding Alice. Either that or a mind screw with Lilia and the Wizard of Oz. Those are coming. 😮 Aubrey is joining the coven soon, we’ll save that for Agatha’s final trial or something to that order.
I'm also wondering what Agatha's trial is going to be, mostly because I don't think we know what kind/specialty/subclass of witch she is. Lilia is divinations, Alice is protection, Jennifer is potions/alchemy, and Rio is green. Based on Agatha's trial by her own coven, it doesn't seem like "dark magic" is a specialty that they are supposed to be dabbling in and thus I doubt the Witches' Road would require one. So the question is, what was her specialty originally?
Almost every line Sharon utters in this episode points to her eventual end. Reads like an M. Night script it was so obvious in hindsight. Sooooooo melodramatic, and I am so here for it.
I think teen/Billy is both wanda and agatha son, mephisto took him but when Wanda created Billy he decided to merge them but teen escaped or got send free
1:57 You know what?! You might be on to something! I'm surprised I didn't think of that--probably dismissed that idea because Rio is a woman. That would be interesting if that were the case. I would not be made at it =) 27:58 I still think Teen is Billy; everything about him lines up with what Billy is in the comics. Nicholas Scratch, in the comics, fathered seven children. Do you know who those seven children became? Salem's Seven! The MCU doesn't follow the comics, so I'm not going to hold my breath on that turning out to be the case here, but I suspect that he still has ties to them in some fashion. Perhaps that's why Salem's Seven is after Agatha--did she steal the Book of the damned from them? Did Agatha turn her son into her Rabbit Familiar, Senior Scratchy, to protect him from those who would use him to get to her? This was a really good episode. I like the quality of it all. This looks much better than the trailers led on. I was expecting a downgrade that looked more like the road they were on. The deception found in The Witches' Road is in the story too. Is Mrs. Davis really dead? I don't think so. She drank the potion, and their exit revealed itself because she drank the potion too. She's part of Agatha's Coven. I suspect that they all have to make it through together or no one makes it out at all. Mrs. Davis' talent is gardening, is she going to be healed by the ground? Rio? Rio was shown in the trailer, and she was on the road with them. How did she manage that? The trailer also teased a green witch, though it didn't give us a good look at who that witch might be. I can't wait to see what comes next, though I think we'll be seeing Rio crawl out of the earth next week. Good episode!
Thank you for the reaction I am enjoying it a lot, now that I think about it Sharon died because they said one of the effect of the poison is death and they didn't put her hair in the antidote from what we saw and now either she will be dead dead or they will do something to bring her back.
It was in the review; Rio's hand comes up out of the ground like a zombie, and she joins them on the road. And, off the subject, but this always drives me crazy, there is not such thing as "to not," its "not to." Remember Hamlet: "To be, or not to be." It wasn't "To be or to not be."
RIO VIDAL É A MORTE. Rio Vidal é um disfarce. Por isso Agatha não pode roubar o poder dela. . A mesma Morte que teve um romance com Thanos. 100% de certeza. 😂😂😂
The thing is that they forgot Sharon's hair in the potion and they almost forgot to give her a drink, that's why the potion didn't work on the color on the first try either.
I still think Teen will end up being Billy. He said "A lot of things happened when I was thirteen too". He was thirteen 3 years ago, which was when Wandavision happened.
So.... when everyone started suggesting teen was billy... ... i initially couldn't think of any billy other than the billy from hocus pocus... and was so confused... 😶😅😑 (i sorted it fairly fast... but still...) ~ anyhow, laugh at me and know whatever theories that come about, none will be that far off base. Lol
i’m wondering if the deal she struck was more along the lines of sacrificing her first born son for the darkhold before she had actually had him. Somewhat in line with some more famous examples of deals with the devil
Dunno what order they’re going in for the trials-it’s not the order from the ballad either, otherwise Alice would have been first. Hers will be next week though! Each witch specialty needed corresponds to an element-potions was water, protection is fire, divination is air, and green is of course earth. And actually, from the trailers we’ve already seen all five trials. I love the new layers to Agatha’s personality they’re uncovering and how they balance them with what they know. She’s still our chaos-loving, self-serving bitch, but as much as she despises working with and relying on others, when she gets serious, she actually really IS a natural leader and protective person. And I think those are probably instincts that she’s tried very hard to bury because they make her vulnerable. The Nick Scratch thing is reeeeeaaaally interesting. i feel like Jen might suspect something, because part of her talk with Teen almost feels like she’s trying to gauge his reaction when she mentions Mephisto and how Agatha might not even recognize her son if he showed up. I also really like your theory that maybe Agatha made a deal without understanding the cost, because I do think there’s a lot of guilt and shame there, like she might let people believe she gave him up because it makes her sound cruel and powerful, but the truth is that she failed to protect him somehow.
There could still be a possibility he’s Billy. When he’s sitting on the couch talking to Alice he said, “a lot happened to me at 13 too”. According to him he’s 16, and it’s been three years since the events of WandaVision, so maybe he’s the reincarnation of Billy’s soul.
I don't think Rio is Blackheart. Just doesn't really make sense to me. Blackheart does have the ability to shapeshift, and the comics design would probably utilize some CG which would explain why they might want to stray away from it. But not only do I think it would be boring to have Blackheart and NOT keep the design, I just don't get Blackheart vibes from Aubrey. So far, anyway.
It was 100% younger Lilia. In the credits they list "Young Lilia" as a part and she's speaking Italian. She's an old Sicilian witch so her speaking Italian makes sense. Apparently the old woman at the table was her old teacher or something
I think that Teen is Scratch. I think the locket has his hair in it. I think she was power hungry and made a deal for the book but was griefstricken when she realized what it meant. During the wine scene, she abruptly stops him from drinking the poison, in the woods when the coven gets too curious about him, she pushes him behind her.
OK, long theory follows (about Teen) "A lot happened to me at thirteen too" Teen said. Teen is 16. (he said so in Ep2) Three years ago he was 13. Three years ago Wanda created and then stopped the hex and Vision and the twins were lost. (established Ep1) Three years ago there was a "near death in Westview" just before Wandavision began (it's in the credits under Joe Locke's credit) Agnes (in the hex) talked about a car accident "connected" to the "case" (ie Wanda) Two airbags deployed, with blood in the backseat. The Kaplan parents are cast in this show (IMDB) I believe Teen is not after "the power to blast, levitate etc" but trying to save his parents from their comas. My theory? Teen is Nicholas Scratch, who was hidden BY RIO (aka Blackheart, child of Mephisto) but not as a trade. She did it to SAVE him from his OTHER mother's obsession. (Just because dad is evil don't mean you have to be - think DCs Raven). When Wanda created her kids in the hex, she harvested the souls of Billy Kaplan and Tommy (possibly his brother? possibly in the other car?) BOTH were involved in the car accident. When the hex dissolved they went back to their bodies and woke from their comas. Billy retained his "memories" of Wanda, magic, Agatha etc. If you rewatch and keep an eye on Teen, he is NEVER looking away from Agatha (unless he has to). He's using her the way she uses others. hmm... I wrote A LOT ...maybe I need to switch to de-caf?
God I’m loving this show. It’s so much fun! And dark and spooky. Don’t forget that they forgot to add Sharon’s hair to the potion, that’s why she died.
There is a theory that Sharon is actually Rio all along. We’ve seen in trailers Rio claw her way out of the ground on the road. Most likely they will put Sharon off the road and the ground will take her like the purse. Then Rio will pop out.
Rio represents death. thats why they refer to her as the black heart. that's also why she holds a knife that is on the death terra card. once sheron died I bet that'll call RIO to them which is how she joins them on the road. I also bet she will bring Sharon back to life in the end... maybe... i hope....
I think Sharon is going to come back, especially if they do a thing where they bury her. My theory is that she IS actually a green witch and that she'll heal and return later from the earth or something. Couple reasons, seems anticlimactic to include her at all in the iconic song moment from ep 2 if they're only gonna have her around for 1 full episode. Number 2, it was also anticlimactic the way she died without even being concious and part of the action since she had been incapacitated early. Not to mention they made a big to do about not leaving her behind only for her to be revealed as dead actually 30 seconds later? Seemed a bit odd to me anyway. I'm always of the opinion that if someone is going to die they do it in a dramatic or relevant way. Also, I'm a little biased but I also wanted to see her iconically complete the green witch trial with them.
Kathryn Hahn’s acting in that hallucination scene, the way her face changed so expertly and believably, man. So, SO good. This ep was FIRE. Can’t wait for next week!
SHE IS SOOO GREAT!
Her reaction to the Darkhold being in the baby's place was also soooooo good
“Who’s Sharon” was the most brutal punchline; RIP Sharon 💔
But ending with yeah yeah yeahs made this episode gold
I think they actually did take the antidote to her in time, but it didn't have her hair in it so it didn't work on her :( Poor sharon
@@buzzcutseason142 correct. The hair was the missing component.
Also she drank significantly more
My prediction is the next episode is the one with the Ouija board where they will contact her spirit
Also since the episode names are following the witches road song guessing the next episode is called “If one be gone, we carry on, spirit as our guide”
@@luisf2793 Ooooooh, I like that! You think we'll get ghost Sharon as companion?
@@luisf2793would be interesting but it has been confirmed for awhile the next trial belongs to Alice, the musical one with fire
Also remember she drank 2 glasses so it would have taken 2 doses of the antidote
What Lilia is shouting are the divinations. She gets glimpses of the future. Last episode she yelled “get off me!” That’s what Sharon later yelled.
Sharon said "don't touch me"
@@gingerdog8203I don’t think it has to be said exactly the same but it does make you listen closer to dialogue in later episodes in case it’s a hint to who dies next.
in the last episode she also randomly named tarot cards so looking into those meanings will probably give us hints to the future as well. She said Three Of Pentacles when writing the list of names and The High Priestess when meeting Jennifer
Wanda's children have part of Mephisto in them! So even if he is Billy, part of Mephisto is in him. Also Billy never said his mother died, he said his mother went to see Laurna Wu before she died.
Thank you for explaining that. I totally misunderstood that line and have been trying to reconcile it with his age, the plot, his identity, etc.
Not sure if they're going the same route with Billy, Tommy, and Mephisto as they did in the comics. This time it may just be that they're disembodied souls, rather than fragments of Mephisto
Thats the comics though, there is 0 indication of that being something they are doing in the mcu.
As she was trying to do here, I think Agatha cheated/ broke the rules last time she was on the road and got to the end and she was given what she wanted most (the darkhold), but as a punishment for cheating she lost what she loved most- her son. So technically, she did "trade" him for it but not on purpose.
Oooooh this is a great theory!
And this time, the road made sure she didn't cheat by removing the front doorknob and refilling the glass of wine whenever she poured it out to avoid drinking it.
This is much more sense theory
oooooooooooooooooooooh you smarts brained!
So if she's aware of the consequences of cheating the road, why is she doing again?
I will say that I now know who Aubrey Plaza’s character is, based on a funko leak that I won’t post here (seriously, avoid it, it’s a complete confirmation, no wiggle room) and…wow. I can’t wait to see it play out.
I saw it too. Hopefully some other big villain is coming back too to have a romance with her!!
@@indrasishchakraborty5953 I kind of hope that villain doesn’t, to be honest. If that wasn’t already done, I don’t really want it shoehorned in after the fact just to make my little comic book nostalgia feels tingle, personally.
Ugh, that sucks. How is it that companies don't know how to properly do merch without revealing spoilers? Back when The Phantom Menace was coming out, Pepsi had a promotion where cans would have pictures and descriptions of characters. There was a can for Padme and one for Princess Amidala, no indication whatsoever that they were the same.
@@StarkRGit was a leak, the merchandise is not currently available, this was done by someone who likely works at this company
Sharon cracks me up, I really hope this isn't the end of her character 😭
I initially thought she would return, I love her character. But they need a green witch which Sharon isn't, and they need to have Rio Vidal show up at some point.
The Mephisto name drop threw me lmao I didn't think they'd actually mention him but here we are
Also Kathryn's acting in this episode was amazing. The Darkhold scene actually gutted me; I wasn't expecting the show to give Agatha that much emotional depth but Kathryn nailed it. If Teen actually is her son I'm starting to wonder if Agatha's final test is going to involve her once again needing to choose between power and her own child. The Road is meant to lead you to what you want most, so which does she want more? Getting her power back or getting her son back?
I think th road still gonna make her choose even tho it’s not her son
the scene with the crib is a really big example of the emotional depth we're getting with Agatha but i also really liked the smaller, subtler things that hint that a lot of Agatha's callousness is at least partly a defense mechanism. she immediately jumps in to drink the poison the second Teen offers to do it, which is in contrast to how flippant she is about him and everyone else for the most part. when Lillia is traumatised by her hallucinations, Agatha is surprisingly gentle and doesn't mock her or make any digs about it. when Jen starts panicking, Agatha doesn't throw insults and while she makes it clear that she doesn't /like/ Jen, she respects her work and capability, which grounds Jen enough for her to remember the last ingredient. and when they're rushing to get Sharon the antidote, she asks if it worked with clear concern, and only starts being flippant and callous again when it seems like it didn't
I love that Agatha is her own worst enemy in this so far and it seems like "teen" is there to call her on it. I'm willing to be he does have some connection to her son as a result though.
That mephisto mention tho!!! R.I.P Sharon
Who’s Sharon?
I don’t know why I’m still convinced teen is Wanda’s son, I feel like it’d make more sense to add him into the story now since they’ve been introducing a lot of the young avengers.
Because they are using the Nicholas scratch stuff as a red herring
the nicholas scratch stuff really seems like a misdirect both for us and for Agatha, he definitely is Billy/Wiccan
It's a misdirect. Agatha will think he's Nicolas and it will end up being Billy, the son of her archnemesis.
I didn't notice at first, but what Lilia is saying randomly are divinations, in the second episode she screams and puts her hands over her head, as if she was protecting herself, or running away from something.... later in the same episode all the witches run and scream towards the Witch's Road running away from the Salem Seven, and before they sing the Ballad she shouts "GET OFF ME" exactly what Sharron says in this episode. Now we have two subtle lines from her that don't fit into the conversation, one is "I love u guys" and "Try to save Agatha".... if this is right then the next episode could be very interesting...
to be honest Sharon said "don't touch me" but there is nothign that makes them say the same words Lilia Saw in the Divination
they forgot one missing component, sharon's hair strand
I was going to say that at don't see them add all the hair because of the hallucination, but if they almost forgot to give her the potion, they definitely forgot her hair too
Okay, them trying so hard to push the "Teen is Nick Scratch" idea in episode 3 makes me now think it *can't* be him 😂 So Billy Kaplan with Billy Maximoff's soul still? Maybe. Either way, what I find interesting is that, despite Agatha's cold exterior most of the time (and even at the end here), she showed real empathy for Lilia when Lilia had her hallucination, she showed concern for Teen when he threatened to drink the poison, and she seemed truly traumatized by her own hallucination despite ostensibly having made the choice to sell her son for the Darkhold.
There are layers to Agatha that she hides behind a facade, and I get the feeling we'll be seeing that facade peel away throughout the trials.
I saw some people point out that maybe Teens accident from 3 years ago “Wandavision” timeframe was when Billy’s mind went into the body of Billy Kaplan during the car accident mentioned in episode 1
did you see the new Funko Pops for Agatha? they revealed the identities of "Teen" and Rio Vidal
I think you missed the part where none of the witches can hear his name 💯💯
yeah he is hidden to ALL witchkind, which is another point for the Billy theory, i’m guessing wanda would want her son protected from all kinds of witches
this show is actually so fun I am ON this witches road
I think it’ll still end up being Billy Maximoff (now Kaplan) in the end, but they’re laying breadcrumbs to misdirect and make us think (along with Agatha, in the show) that Teen being Nick Scratch reincarnated is a possibility, just to rip the rug away and break Agatha’s heart all over again at the end.
The whole thing with Nicholas Scratch and Teen’s identity screams red herring
I think Señor Scratchy is her son. She just doesn't know it
I feel like she's gonna bond with him, thinking it's her son. And then boom in the last episodes she's gonna get bamboozled because it's actually Wanda's son. That Wanda hate meter is gonna go maximum lol
Yeah he is either going to be both, or end up being Billy and thst would make Agatha hate Wanda more or perhaps even turn on the coven
I'm thinking they're gonna make Billy a reincarnation of both Nicky and Billy Maximoff. This will make Agatha and Wanda both mothers to him. This would also, more than likely, force the two of them to develop a respect for one another in the future, as in the comics Wanda and Agatha become allies, with Agatha kind of serving as a mentor/oracle to Wanda. Should be interesting to see how this all unfolds.
I think Agatha did not sacrifice her son willingly. I think either she was tricked into doing it by someone (Rio) or perhaps someone else (Rio) sacrificed her son for the book. It makes sense how Agatha is cares for Rio but also angry with her. It could also be foreshadowed when Rio asked Agatha (which she' still under Wanda's spell) if Agatha remembers why she hates Rio. Perhaps they were lovers/partners in the past, they wanted the book of the damned, Rio discovered it needs a child sacrifice, so she sacrificed Agatha's baby. When Agatha discovered what Rio did, she stole the book and ran away from Rio never to be seen again until the book was destroyed by Wanda.
I think when Teen said "don't be such a bummer" I think he was referring to her saying "maybe this is the end" as if he thought she meant "the end of us" which i guess it was her end.
They didn't add Sharon's hair into the potion 😭😭😭
She prob gonna die anyway but i didn't expect she die so soon😢
The set design in this show is on another level!
RIP Sharon.
8:52-9:14 This is exactly why I think Agatha's son Nicholas Scratch could be the main villain of this show.
Man, people are gonna go nuts over that Mephisto name-drop. XD
Sucks about Sharon though... T_T
Hehehe! I'm the first comment! I'm never this early!
Teen mentioned that his father used one of those water heaters I wonder who he’s referring to, vision or someone else.
I think Agatha believes Teen might be her son. Gawd it’s gonna hurt when she finds out who he really is.
Glad the show is leaning hard on the Nicholas Scratch theory cause when the twist of his identity happens is gonna be so good.
i like how the protection witch is showed as protective even without using magic. she’s the one who pulled Mrs. Hart out of the sinking swamp, she also was the only one initially trying to carry Mrs. Hart’s body to the oven exit, and she’s also the last one to exit the first trial, making sure everyone else got out first.
Sharron drank twice if not three times as much! she was dead long before that timer was up! sad to see her go!
Given that it's a magical poison, the amount probably didn't matter, not including her hair in the antidote potion, though, probably did.
nah, she was moving a bit when they gave her the antidote. she died when the timer ran out.
If Rio is actually Mephisto's daughter that would be so awesome
I hope that by the end of the road, they wish for Sharon to be back
I think Sharon died because even if she was given the antidote in time, her hair wasn't in the concoction...?
Because during the "put a strand of your hair" section, Agatha had her hallucination and that was only seconds before they drunk the antidote and Alice remembered Sharon still need her dose of the antidote. SO maybe they forgot to add her hair in there which is part of the prerequisite for the antidote to work...?
I kinda hope they stick with the Wizard of Oz theme since you could say this episode was a Test of Knowledge based off of what Agatha said to Jen towards the end of the trial, similar to the Scarecrow wanting brains from the Wizard.
If the pattern follows, maybe next will be a Test of Heart followed by a Test of Courage. I guess you could argue Alice and something with her mother could constitute the Heart test, but she did seemed pretty scared of her mom too like she and their family curse gave her a lot of trauma, so maybe that could be the Courage test instead. Lilia’s test could be Heart as well since she seems to have the most passion and respect for her witch-kin too.
It’s kind of a reach, but it’s my head canon until proven otherwise. Can’t wait for the next episode!
The sigil isn't only for Agatha. All of the witches present can't hear Teen too
You guessed a character in AOS was Blackheart. Lol. Now this show. You’re becoming NewRockstars always guessing Mephisto.
That being said, watch you be right. Lol.
Not the Hansel and Gretel reference with the Oven 😭
It kills me on the rewatch that Sharon says "Maybe this is the end!" when they get to the house, followed by "OMG, bury me in that kitchen!"... but what really breaks my heart is that her last conscious moments were her reliving the worst bit of the last time a witch messed with her life 😢
20:47 perfect 😂
RIP Kitty
Omg... When Sharon said "Have you see "Huge Tiny Lies"?"... I love that tiny tidbit.
I think that the black heart character is a death witch and the reason I think that is her magic is green and Thor’s sister Hella uses green colored magic and she has domain over undead as well as in trailers we seen her crawl out from the ground and seeing who dies at the end of this makes me feel that’s her way of getting to the road, even though she’s not part of the coven. Also the fight and the first part she says she can drain her in. Agatha says it would kill her so if her magic is death itself, I think that stands up and that might be why she doesn’t like her because she took somebody and didn’t raise them back from the dead. It could also be why the black heart character can’t kill Agatha and Agatha definitely can’t kill her.
Im thinking it didn't work for Sharon because they didn't get any of her hair.
Did you pick up on the Colorado reference? That’s where Nicholas Scratch created the Salem 7 in “New Salem” so this show is definitely sticking to the comics. And I think you’re right this could go either way but I think “The Teen” could actually be her real son undercover as Nicholas Scratch as an agent of Mephisto. Yeah we probably judged this prematurely. 97% agree. I’m excited to see what direction this goes. I think the next trial will be the 70’s disco regarding Alice. Either that or a mind screw with Lilia and the Wizard of Oz. Those are coming. 😮 Aubrey is joining the coven soon, we’ll save that for Agatha’s final trial or something to that order.
I'm also wondering what Agatha's trial is going to be, mostly because I don't think we know what kind/specialty/subclass of witch she is. Lilia is divinations, Alice is protection, Jennifer is potions/alchemy, and Rio is green. Based on Agatha's trial by her own coven, it doesn't seem like "dark magic" is a specialty that they are supposed to be dabbling in and thus I doubt the Witches' Road would require one. So the question is, what was her specialty originally?
Almost every line Sharon utters in this episode points to her eventual end. Reads like an M. Night script it was so obvious in hindsight. Sooooooo melodramatic, and I am so here for it.
I think sharon will resurect through her magic power. . .
9:24 FINALLY THE MENTION OF MEPHIST WAS YEARS OF WAITING 🤣
I think teen/Billy is both wanda and agatha son, mephisto took him but when Wanda created Billy he decided to merge them but teen escaped or got send free
Omg for a second I thought you dyed your hair purple, but it was just the lights😂😂😂
I know it’s just the lights, but your hair looks tinted purple and it looks fabulous on you!
1:57 You know what?! You might be on to something! I'm surprised I didn't think of that--probably dismissed that idea because Rio is a woman. That would be interesting if that were the case. I would not be made at it =)
27:58 I still think Teen is Billy; everything about him lines up with what Billy is in the comics. Nicholas Scratch, in the comics, fathered seven children. Do you know who those seven children became? Salem's Seven! The MCU doesn't follow the comics, so I'm not going to hold my breath on that turning out to be the case here, but I suspect that he still has ties to them in some fashion. Perhaps that's why Salem's Seven is after Agatha--did she steal the Book of the damned from them? Did Agatha turn her son into her Rabbit Familiar, Senior Scratchy, to protect him from those who would use him to get to her?
This was a really good episode. I like the quality of it all. This looks much better than the trailers led on. I was expecting a downgrade that looked more like the road they were on. The deception found in The Witches' Road is in the story too. Is Mrs. Davis really dead? I don't think so. She drank the potion, and their exit revealed itself because she drank the potion too. She's part of Agatha's Coven. I suspect that they all have to make it through together or no one makes it out at all. Mrs. Davis' talent is gardening, is she going to be healed by the ground? Rio? Rio was shown in the trailer, and she was on the road with them. How did she manage that? The trailer also teased a green witch, though it didn't give us a good look at who that witch might be.
I can't wait to see what comes next, though I think we'll be seeing Rio crawl out of the earth next week.
Good episode!
Thank you for the reaction I am enjoying it a lot, now that I think about it Sharon died because they said one of the effect of the poison is death and they didn't put her hair in the antidote from what we saw and now either she will be dead dead or they will do something to bring her back.
I think Sharon will be back. My opinion is there’s more to her than meets the eye.
in the credits is revealed that Lilia really saw her young self.
this one was really fun
Cerulean is Blue
Straight guy: thanks x files
Gay guy: thanks Devils wear Prada
It was in the review; Rio's hand comes up out of the ground like a zombie, and she joins them on the road. And, off the subject, but this always drives me crazy, there is not such thing as "to not," its "not to." Remember Hamlet: "To be, or not to be." It wasn't "To be or to not be."
but do try to not be too didactic... oops
Imagine rio is lady death👁️👄👁️
DUDE!!!!! I think you cracked it. Toto IS Blackheart!
Awesome X-Files reference. "It's.... cerulean."
Love your reactions and your excitement and joy comes through!
The sigil apparently doesn’t work only on Agatha , but on all witches
Sharon might come back as a ghost, if only until they reach the end of the road
Joe Locke is really busy, now in Agatha, next month in Heartstopper 3
RIO VIDAL É A MORTE. Rio Vidal é um disfarce. Por isso Agatha não pode roubar o poder dela. . A mesma Morte que teve um romance com Thanos. 100% de certeza. 😂😂😂
"I didn't put that clumsy glamor on him."
Glamor being Wanda's stage name in WV episode 2. So many little Easter eggs.
So that ending was. . .
...was what?
@@chloeamanda1999 they forgot to put her hair in the potion. So that's why she is gone.
Death order prediction, Jenn, Lily, the protector girl
Obsesssed how kraglin and Kevin bacon get cell service from Knowhere but poor Sharon can’t get any bars on the road :((((((
Well Im waiting for that ROP ep reaction,because it was nuts today
The thing is that they forgot Sharon's hair in the potion and they almost forgot to give her a drink, that's why the potion didn't work on the color on the first try either.
I still think Teen will end up being Billy. He said "A lot of things happened when I was thirteen too". He was thirteen 3 years ago, which was when Wandavision happened.
So.... when everyone started suggesting teen was billy... ... i initially couldn't think of any billy other than the billy from hocus pocus... and was so confused... 😶😅😑 (i sorted it fairly fast... but still...) ~ anyhow, laugh at me and know whatever theories that come about, none will be that far off base. Lol
😂😂😂 X Files is also why *I* know cerulean is blue
Sharon wasn't a witch and yes the green witch is going to pop up just like you said... Literally from the ground.
the lighting in this episode was AMAZIJG
i’m wondering if the deal she struck was more along the lines of sacrificing her first born son for the darkhold before she had actually had him. Somewhat in line with some more famous examples of deals with the devil
I love almost all of the shows that you react to and really enjoy watching with you. I would love for you to react to From.
Dunno what order they’re going in for the trials-it’s not the order from the ballad either, otherwise Alice would have been first. Hers will be next week though! Each witch specialty needed corresponds to an element-potions was water, protection is fire, divination is air, and green is of course earth. And actually, from the trailers we’ve already seen all five trials.
I love the new layers to Agatha’s personality they’re uncovering and how they balance them with what they know. She’s still our chaos-loving, self-serving bitch, but as much as she despises working with and relying on others, when she gets serious, she actually really IS a natural leader and protective person. And I think those are probably instincts that she’s tried very hard to bury because they make her vulnerable.
The Nick Scratch thing is reeeeeaaaally interesting. i feel like Jen might suspect something, because part of her talk with Teen almost feels like she’s trying to gauge his reaction when she mentions Mephisto and how Agatha might not even recognize her son if he showed up. I also really like your theory that maybe Agatha made a deal without understanding the cost, because I do think there’s a lot of guilt and shame there, like she might let people believe she gave him up because it makes her sound cruel and powerful, but the truth is that she failed to protect him somehow.
There could still be a possibility he’s Billy. When he’s sitting on the couch talking to Alice he said, “a lot happened to me at 13 too”. According to him he’s 16, and it’s been three years since the events of WandaVision, so maybe he’s the reincarnation of Billy’s soul.
I don't think Rio is Blackheart. Just doesn't really make sense to me. Blackheart does have the ability to shapeshift, and the comics design would probably utilize some CG which would explain why they might want to stray away from it. But not only do I think it would be boring to have Blackheart and NOT keep the design, I just don't get Blackheart vibes from Aubrey. So far, anyway.
They gave her the antidote in time, but Sharon's hair wasn't in it, so it didn't work. RIP, Sharon 💔
It was 100% younger Lilia. In the credits they list "Young Lilia" as a part and she's speaking Italian. She's an old Sicilian witch so her speaking Italian makes sense. Apparently the old woman at the table was her old teacher or something
I think that Teen is Scratch. I think the locket has his hair in it. I think she was power hungry and made a deal for the book but was griefstricken when she realized what it meant. During the wine scene, she abruptly stops him from drinking the poison, in the woods when the coven gets too curious about him, she pushes him behind her.
OK, long theory follows (about Teen)
"A lot happened to me at thirteen too" Teen said.
Teen is 16. (he said so in Ep2)
Three years ago he was 13.
Three years ago Wanda created and then stopped the hex and Vision and the twins were lost. (established Ep1)
Three years ago there was a "near death in Westview" just before Wandavision began (it's in the credits under Joe Locke's credit)
Agnes (in the hex) talked about a car accident "connected" to the "case" (ie Wanda)
Two airbags deployed, with blood in the backseat.
The Kaplan parents are cast in this show (IMDB)
I believe Teen is not after "the power to blast, levitate etc" but trying to save his parents from their comas.
My theory? Teen is Nicholas Scratch, who was hidden BY RIO (aka Blackheart, child of Mephisto) but not as a trade. She did it to SAVE him from his OTHER mother's obsession. (Just because dad is evil don't mean you have to be - think DCs Raven). When Wanda created her kids in the hex, she harvested the souls of Billy Kaplan and Tommy (possibly his brother? possibly in the other car?) BOTH were involved in the car accident. When the hex dissolved they went back to their bodies and woke from their comas. Billy retained his "memories" of Wanda, magic, Agatha etc.
If you rewatch and keep an eye on Teen, he is NEVER looking away from Agatha (unless he has to). He's using her the way she uses others.
hmm... I wrote A LOT ...maybe I need to switch to de-caf?
I'm holding out hope that if they drag Sharon's corpse to the end of the road, we'll get her back.
God I’m loving this show. It’s so much fun! And dark and spooky. Don’t forget that they forgot to add Sharon’s hair to the potion, that’s why she died.
I do find it funny how so many people are switching to the Nicholas Scratch thought even though it's an obvious misdirect.
The effect give them their worst nightmare and sharon is wanda/scarlet witch choke her husband 😢
Lilia thing is easy, I think. A common trope about fortune teller. She probably foresaw a lot of deaths but can't do shit about it.
There is a theory that Sharon is actually Rio all along. We’ve seen in trailers Rio claw her way out of the ground on the road. Most likely they will put Sharon off the road and the ground will take her like the purse. Then Rio will pop out.
Sharron died bc they didn’t put her hair in the poison.
I hope it is just a fake out and Sharon isn’t really dead. I love her character!
Rio represents death. thats why they refer to her as the black heart. that's also why she holds a knife that is on the death terra card. once sheron died I bet that'll call RIO to them which is how she joins them on the road. I also bet she will bring Sharon back to life in the end... maybe... i hope....
wow good to see you without the beanie
I like your reaction!
Disney is simply getting this series right, and one episode is better than the other, I hope it continues. 💜🔥
RIP Sharon 😢
Her death made me so sad but at least she’s with Mr Davis now😭😭
I hope it's not that we now get one trial per episode because that would be kinda slow.
I think Sharon is going to come back, especially if they do a thing where they bury her. My theory is that she IS actually a green witch and that she'll heal and return later from the earth or something. Couple reasons, seems anticlimactic to include her at all in the iconic song moment from ep 2 if they're only gonna have her around for 1 full episode. Number 2, it was also anticlimactic the way she died without even being concious and part of the action since she had been incapacitated early. Not to mention they made a big to do about not leaving her behind only for her to be revealed as dead actually 30 seconds later? Seemed a bit odd to me anyway. I'm always of the opinion that if someone is going to die they do it in a dramatic or relevant way.
Also, I'm a little biased but I also wanted to see her iconically complete the green witch trial with them.