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Springfield Armory Hellcat OSP - First Impressions & Ammo Test
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2019
- InRangeTV was shipped one of the first Springfield Armory Hellcat OSP pistols with Shield RMS-c RDS.
We discuss our initial impressions of the gun and put it through a multi-manufacturer ammunition test.
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Ian: Hell Cat is a dumb name.
High point: YEET CANNON
HiPoint: Hold my yeet cannon...
I thought "hah, that would be a dumb name for a gu.. wait a minute, does he mean that it's an actual gun?"
Holy shit. Yeet cannon. Marketed for 17-year olds?
Omega Pretzel Springfield chose that name.
High point fucked up and let the internet choose theirs. 🤣
There's a difference between knowingly and unknowingly being a meme.
I thought you were joking about the yeet cannon. I then looked it up, now I am sad.
“Brought to you by optics and trigger dingus” -Gun Jesus 2019
Is "dingei" the plural?
Legionitalia I read this right as he said it. It’s a Halloween miracle!
I support this video and I support optics but I'm still not supporting Trigger Dingus no matter how many videos they sponsor.
@@elektro3000 Agreed. Not one of my guns has a trigger dingus or simplified Browning action.
Hahahaha
“Possibly the most promising thing from Springfield since.. like...1945”*drops mic* -Gun Jesus 2019
I'm going to guess you haven't fired their Springfield armory Saint.
@@nathanrogers7652 you mean the "hey look im different i swear!" ar15.. thats functionally identical to every other ar15 ever made... ever... dont need to.. i build one just like it... for less
@@RTJsims Annnnnnd.... Boom goes the dynamite!
@@nathanrogers7652 yeah. So what sets the Saint apart from the rest?
Possibly the most promising thing from Springfield since.. like...1945 Ba dum bump! Great Comment
I just love my HELLCAT. Finally comfortable to shoot. I am 61 Female and petite now that I have been shooting it and broke it in. I absolutely love this gun!
hows the recoil ma'am?
@@geckomabster1625 it's less than an airweight J frame
I require a Hellcat mud test, with the official inRange wheelbarrow as and *no* certified water bucket
I’d just drop it in a bucket filled with shit & call it good.
I feel like we need an official InRange "Pocket crumbs" test. A CCW isn't going to get in the mud, but will it still run after being filled with the detritus that is in the bottom of a purse or the gunk that gets into the backs of car seats? I'm thinking a mix of soda, popcorn crumbs, shattered mints and cheese dust.
@@KarltheKrazyone Great idea, that is actually pretty practical as a test. Also there should be a test for how badly the gun performs when limp-wristed (to simulate weaker shooters) but I have no idea how you could setup a somewhat repeatable test.
Carry guns see mud too. Try farming. My CZ has... seen some things. Mine has seen the certified water hose. Mud test!
You tube Tampa carry great vid
competition between manufacturers is good. Will lead to better products in the market
And lower prices.
Bloody hell. A comment on youtube not advocating communism!
Capitalism!
"They no longer feel the need to designate a grip zone on the gun, which is...........nice." LMAO
"This is what is called a Pro Gamer Move"
-Karl, 2019
Wait, did you just make this video so you could get rid of your strange ammo?
It was a good opportunity.
@@InrangeTv Would've liked to see how she ran with a few mags of mixed up ammo, you know how it is when you're scraping the barrel looking for rounds and have to load a "yardsale mix". Excellent video though, you were looking for faults and were honest to a fault at the same time: - Just how I like my InRange and Forgotten Weapons to be.
@@Getpojke I believe the more institutionalized term is a "hobo bag" of ammo.
@@UH1Phil That would be a better "catchall" phrase, thank you. Unfortunately here in the UK the growth of a phrase like that is stymied by our gunlaws.
I'm sure there's plenty more where that ammo came from. Probably in Ian's off-grid bunker.
One of my favorite things about having been here from the beginning is seeing how much better Ian has gotten at the spinner.
"Brought to you by optics and trigger dingis." I love Ian's comments!
He's a dork; an EDUCATED dork.
The standoff guide rod is a neat idea that will completely fail to work when applied to a soft surface that can deform and press the slide. For example, most parts of a human body.
Can I suggest that you partner up with BosnianBill or LockPickingLawyer when you test the lockbox?
Love them both but I'd like to see Deviant take a look, if it's interesting the others will do their own videos.
Espically them both being 2a supporters
Yes please!
Ah, men of culture!
Yeesss this needs more likes
The reaction after pretty much every magazine shot successfully : 🤷
"It didn't heck up, what do you want?"
In the time that the hellcat was released and today, I have had probably 10-15 people call the shop I work at and ask if we had any instock and when we were gonna get any. I guess Springfields marketing is working.
Say what you will about Springfield as a company, I seriously hope this thing works out. Even if just for the competition, it'll push both sig and springfield to be better and more innovative.
The part were he wants to run away from the spinner after he clears it, competition shooting much 🤣
S&W M&P, Ruger LCP, Sig Sauer 365, Glock 42, H&K, Mossberg, Taurus, etc ...... we are living in a golden age.
Ian: "I got I think ten rounds of it..." *several pews later* Me: "11, You had 11 rounds of it..." Archer's voice in my head: "I'm just super good at that... Oh my God, maybe I am autistic!" Hahahaha!
The Armory Life did a 10,000 round review. Hellcat had 4 nonfiring rounds that fired on the second strike and no bobbles at all. 10 grand and still looked fairly unused. Springfield knocked it out of the park with this Sig 365 killer.
I've carried an G43 everyday for 2 years in pocket holsters. Using Speer Gold Dot 124 +p with no problems. Taran +2 extensions. Love this carry package which I didn't think could be beat. I held a Hellcat today for the very first time since they are always out of stock.
I have to say, I will be putting the G43 in the safe and buying 2 Hellcats. Buying 2 because I am amazed at the product. And the name is awesome. Guy let me put it in my pockets and no difference in how it fits compared to the G43. I've always been a Glock guy, since they first came out, and competed in plate matches with them. Springfield 1911's I have and love. But their XD series just never could change me over. This Hellcat has turned me over now.
Like them or not Springfield is known for having reliable products. The XDs mod 2 was tested at 25,000 rounds before they released it. This gun was worked on for 2 1/2 years before they released it. Only time will tell but the attention to quality and they’re track record especially with the XD line speaks volumes!
Great review!
Competition is good for business. I’m glad to see more offerings in this space. I’d like to see you guys test the Shield Arms G43X/48 15 round magazines as well!
Perfect timing with the toss and “gunfire on the background”
Thanks for all the awesome content from both InRange and ForgottenWeapons.
"Here's a Hellcat for you, and you, and you, everyone check under your seats for your brand new Hellcat!" - If Gun Jesus had a network talk show.
I’m glad to see the market putting things like this out.
I can't bring myself to buy a new Springfield Armory gun being an Illinois gun owner. I live about a half hour away from their headquarters. But they are pretty much dead to me
A pistol that Ian can hit a spinner with? I'm sold! 🤣
I LOVE InRange 'reviews'. You guys are so straightforward with your opinions, processes, and descriptions.
I'm an engineer at Chrysler and used to work in SRT and knowing the guys there, I guarantee you somebody would want to lend you a Hellcat for some kind of Hellcat/Hellcat cross-promotional video, like Karl shooting steel out the passenger window while Ian does continuous doughnuts. Somebody in Brand/Marketing would probably say no, but the SRT guys would think it's hilarious and want to do it.
I like it.
love that it has a picittiny slot up front.
I would rather a red or green fiber up front and rear for sights.
Not the biggest fan of magazine sleeves for longer grip.(couldn't tell if it had one or not)
Overall first impression. A-
I like that conceal carry handguns are becoming more"DO ALL" and tick more boxes for more kinds of shooters and carriers.
Seems like pistols/rifles just like phones go through popular phases of size. First large, robust, Then medium sized, then compact and super small. Then the process starts all over and they go big again.
I don't know. Smartphones have only gotten bigger.
Im waiting for smaller guns to come back I want a 32 mag revolver made in a I frame
@@LUR1FAX we're waiting for them to reach max size
Didn't CMMG ship their 10mm AR pistol to EVERYONE and saturate the field, also?
Yeah but they essentially told everyone they were getting an exclusive thing
bill blohm Yeah but CMMG is expensive so if they didn't they wouldn't get a lot of coverage on it
You guys realize you have to do something with the Yeet Cannon at some point right?
I'll be glad to.
@@InrangeTv Looking forward to that one. If it meets Hi-Point's usual standards, it'll probably exceed expectations like last time, but probably (and hopefully!) won't be winning any ergonomic prizes soon.
Liking for the tag-team spinner porn
To impress a chick do the helicopter trick!
They spit roasted that Spinner Target!
What I know is that the 365 had all sorts of problems out of the gate and, out of over 10 various reviews of the Hellcat, I have yet to see someone have any problem. I dont know how long this pistol will go before something snaps, but it seems to have excellent reliability out of the box.
One thing I will give SA on this gun is they keep the rear sight on the slide and not the mounting plate
Did you see any firing pin drag on the base of the cartridge's? The 356 was known for that and breaking firing pin tips.
Springfield is the new Oprah: A hellcat for you and a hellcat for you and a hellcat for you and a hellcat for you!
Well evidently Springfield sent out lots of these guns to RUclips gun channels they thought would have a lot of exposure. So that means they were ok with a lot of different opinions from different shooters. I don't see that being a bad thing for the gun community. So far, after seeing a dozen different videos on this gun, many start with a semi-negative opinion before they shoot it....then they shoot it. It performs well and some still try to find something wrong but really cannot. I think this is helpful to all of us.
@@krashdude1 Wonder if they sent Tim at Military Arms Channel one?
I'm guessing not!
@@COIcultist I thought the same thing...If they do send MAC one, that review should be amusing. Just like everyone else here, I have seen several vids on this gun. What has made me chuckle, is that so far there haven't been any functionality issues, especially this particular video--- lots of different crappy ammo. Obviously the political fallout from the "Illinois situation" sheds an entirely different light on all of these reviews. I have found it entertaining.
Little known fact: Oprah used to warm up audiences by spraying whole belts over their heads from an M60. Those people aren't just happy to get cars. They're happy to be alive.
@@COIcultist I may be wrong, I'm usually, but I think I did see a recent video on MAC were he reviewed one. Now his review on the SAS received a comment calling him "the king of lemons"! The one he was reviewing came from the factory with screwed up sights. He his POA was center mass and he kept hitting the right shoulder. He changed his POA to the right shoulder and he started hitting close to center mass. He sent it back to the factory, they sent him a new one and the sights was dead on center mass. I have seen more positive reviews of the SA then the Sig. Apparently It takes a while to get use to those Menpro full bullseye sights.
The Shield RMSC is a perfectly fine sight. It's a price point optic, but it works just fine. One thing I will caution about is that the lens needs to be babied or it will scratch. Use a proper, clean lens cloth or you will learn, as I did, that a single sand particle can scratch the crap out of it.
Karl, never unironically use the word "influencer" ever again
11:31 Speaking of ironic, was calling it "blah-zer" an insult over pronouncing it "blay-zer"?
@@BoopSnoot Ian's said it like that for years
The opposite of calling a Blaser rifle "blay-zer".
heh, as if content creators _don't_ influence you...
@@BoopSnoot That's how you should pronounce Blaser rifles , so why not do it for the ammo too?
8:32 hot damn Ian, nice group!
I like these guys . They just stand there even though someone is shooting at them .
I kept waiting for a box of Acme to appear. You shot everything else. :)
Ian made a kinda mumbled comment about the Springfield XD, which I cannot make out. Would like to know what it was and also wonder if InRange has tested them? In a quick look, I didn't see one. I bought an XD45 Tactical when they first came out and don't have any significant complaints. Not claiming it's the best that ever was, but I like it. Don't have the money to buy many guns, so that's my only modern handgun. I did the same "what ammo will it choke on test" and even included some 1918 and 1943 dated .45 ACP. It digested all of it. Didn't buy into the hate generated towards Springfield over a single stupidly worded statement. I think they've eaten enough fecal matter sandwiches by now to be free and clear of it.
When I saw these guys, I thought I had accidentally clicked on a sword review. Lol. Zorro and Captan Carl. Lol
Even funnier, prior to typing this, didn’t know one of them was actually named Karl! Lol
Even funnier, actually guessed which was was Karl. Lol
Great video guys. One of my favorites so far. Cause y’all actually shot it with many kinds of ammo.
I'm more excited about them testing out the shield rms-c than the hellcat
send the safe to BosnianBill or Lockpickinglawyer (if they don't have one already)
I hope you can get DeviantOllam, LockPickingLawyer and/or Bosnianbill, to check that safe!
I like that background, looks like home.
Send that safe to LockPickingLawyer. Although it is likely more of a goodwill gesture rather than an actual safe.
Cant wait to get my hands on a 365 sas.
Much maligned Springfield makes very good handguns. Folks buy lemon cars and brag about them, same with guns. XDS has been a great shooter, if the Hellcat runs as well, it will be a success.
Always like the inrange reviews. Unfortunately stuff as in depth as the keltec rdb review cant happen often. But the thought presumptions and banter generally take a different angle of approach then most reviewers.
.....its particularly nice when there's a half dozen videos on development (poor hudson)
I do agree with you that any new pistol introduction should come out with it being optics ready. I passed on the Steyr A2 MF for that reason.
I will always miss the GRIP ZONE! and I think you know you will too. ZOMG NEEDZ GRIPZONE!!!
I'm definitely getting "DANGER ZONE" engraved on my slide if I buy one.
I pull out my XD and rub the Grip Zone from time to time, to just remember i was an early adopter.
A newly popular complaint is 'using the customers to product testing', but it's been found repeatedly true that users find ways to push and stress products (especially guns) that the manufacturers can never imagine!
Intrigued, especially with the dot option. I'll be interested to hear how well THAT holds up.
Hellcat 9mm doesn't seem to have a out of the box problems but the other one you talk about had firing pin , etc problems. I like the trigger safety on a conceal weapon .
"influencers" = reviewers who get free stuff who are afraid to say anything bad about a product
If you watch InRange you should know that we will say bad things about...anything.
InRange, MAC, and flannel daddy are really the only “influencers” I trust to tell me when a product has issues
@@Jordan-nc3zy On that note... "Primer Smear??"
A M
Some primer drag is normal for subcompacts, but the extremely fast slide speed of the p365 seems like a design flaw to me. Now that SIg fixed their teething issues with the gun, I don’t think it’s much of a problem anymore.
@@Jordan-nc3zy I realize that a small amount is normal, but no one has really talked about it with the Hellcat yet.
Two of my fav gunsters who disagreed about it believe named after a WWII tank destroyer. I'm.happy.
Got 3 sas models in stock at the shop, lasted less than 10 hours.
1. Actually suprised, I like the optic.
2. I wish there was at least a trench style rib on top... or... SOMETHING.
3. THE PORTS ARE HUUUUUUUUGE! For a 9mm those ports are so big I can fit a pen tube through em. wonder how much stuff is gonna fly outta them.
I think the bullseye sights are terrible.. I only fired 4 magazines through the sas, but it really doesn't float my boat.. more of a gimmick than anything.. I would take notch and post over the mep sight anyday..
I’d go with the Sig.
Any striker drag issue showing on the primers?
Blah zer?
I was just going to comment about that, lol. CCI Blah-zuhrrr.
It's the correct German pronunciation, which is used by Blaser the high-end hunting rifle company. I don't know if they have any connection Blaser ammo here in the US, tho.
if the Croatian company that makes Springfield's plastic guns breaks away i'd consider them. as long as they have Springfield on there, that's a hard pass for me.
I now it's kind of early, but I kind of wonder how it would function one-handed, It seems to me that one-handed operation would be highly desired in a CC W.
3:39 Noblex Docter Glock M.O.S is smaller, unless for some reason it's not a 'heads up display' optic. It's also over $500us, but it's Co-witness and steel...
Thanks for the video guys.
They have loaded Serbian ammo in a croatian gun. It's a wonder that that thing didn't explode right away 😂😂
Now that’s witty! And sadly, too true.
THE SIG SAS Sight seems seems similar to the MEPROLIGHT Handgun site. I have one on my Glock17.. it is OK but not sure same as a RDS
i’ve been a long time xd owner, was very excited for this one! went to the store, had no idea where to hold it. i can’t believe after all this marketing, time and money spent they could forget to have a grip. ill stick with my xd40sc thank you very much, no headaches, no confusion!
Great review. I've always liked Springfield's offerings. Might be a good time to replace the XD-s. Hopefully the trigger is better.
“Isn’t everything a copy?”
“Yes to some extent”
That’s sort of like my saying of “everything is a repost on the internet eventually”
I'm out of the loop: are we giving them a pass on the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association supported gun control? It sort of looks like they did the right things, at least - depending on which way you want to spin it - when they "found out" after they were "called out" about it. And, they proactively dropped Dick's, so that's at least in their favor. Anything else I am unaware of in their history, or the history of their BoD or CEO or whatever?
To see how safe the safe is, maybe involve the lockpicking lawyer or badnian bill? They're brilliant at what they do, and just like you they're brutally honest
You need to get Deviant Ollam in on the safe review :D
Do you guys have any plans to take a look at IWI's Masada? Some reviewers were calling it a "potential Glock killer", I'd be interested to hear your opinion on it.
Great video as always btw. :)
But it doesn't say GRIP ZONE (R) on it, so it's gotta suck.
Nicely framed presentation. For the money, it's a Sig for me.
Great video, but you should mix and match the ammo next time
I got rid of my XDM 3.8 Compact because of the grip safety issues, but I always liked the size. It was like a slightly bigger Glock 26 that could take a weapon light. After moving to a Glock 19 I’ve found that for edc I’d like something a little bit smaller. The Glock 43’s capacity is unacceptable in my opinion and the 43x is the same size as the 19 in the grip length (aka where it matters) and is (in my opinion) stupid as hell as a result. The P365 to ME is perfect except for the issues with the Gen 1 firing pin breakage. It also has a LITTLE higher bore axis than Glocks which I don’t like as much. In my mind, the perfect carry gun would be a Glock 43 slide on a P365 (or similarly sized) frame. Glock needs to do a 10rd stack and a half sub-compact. In my mind, the 43 and 43x are not competitive with the P365.
It looks to me like it has a lot of muzzle flip, something that Springfield XD's suffer from due to the high bore axis. I'd like to see it shot side by side with the P365 to see if it is similar.
Karl said that Springfield Armory provided the pistol "free of charge", that implies it's Inrangetv's to keep, rather than a review example that will have to be returned to the manufacturer. Is that really the case?
Yes, that is the case, as with all of them they sent out in this batch.
@@InrangeTv Interesting, thanks for the reply Karl. Is this typical, or is this something unique that Springfield Armory is doing for the Hellcat? I always just assumed reviewers had to send stuff back.
Do you think this is a new category for the gun market? I heard smith and Wesson is going to be making their own
Damn, Ian, you're getting really good on the spinner.
Clever marketing to bundle in the trigger and optic ,good for the gun buyer too .Lets see how Sig respond to some real competition
2:30 I've got a P365 and played with the Hellcat in LGS. Since the Hellcat flush mag holds one more round than the P365, you'd think the mag would be a little longer and thus, the grip would be a little longer and easier to get three fingers on the grip. But that's not the case. I can get all three fingers on the gun (about 1/4 of my pinky is below the grip) with my P365 flush 10-rounder, and my pinky never slipped off when firing; but I can only get two fingers on the grip with Hellcat's flush 11-rounder. Don't know how the designer managed to do that :)
I got a Sig 365 just late enough to be past all the early updates. It has been my daily carry since. With a thousand and a half or so rounds through it and no malfunctions, I'm happy with the Sig, but competition is always a good thing and I'm curious about this one. One thing that has bothered me so far is Springfield pushing the rail "standard." The reason other companies (Ruger, Glock S&W, etc.) don't have rails on their micro compact guns is that most standard accessories won't fit. Even if their rail is 1913 dimensions, you are still going to be limited to accessories made for the gun. Having said that, I would still call that an improvement, just 10% improvement and 90% marketing.
Excellent work on the spinner gents🧐👌🏾💥💥💥💥
You say you have no idea what to do with the frangible ammo, but itd be really interesting to see what "less likely to overpenetrate" means in the real world. Will it go through thin steel? Will it penetrate through drywall? Shooting some frangible rounds next to their vanilla counterparts through a bunch of common surfaces would be a cool experiment.
13:11 Most genuine “ugh” on youtube. Haha!
I'm a little behind on the 365, have they sorted all the issues with it? I'm still carrying my gen1 PPS and would like to go to something with more capacity. Not really a Springfield fan but these Hellcats do have my attention, I just want them to be out for a while before I carry something.
Ian really, really did not want to like that gun, had a sour look the whole time. Comon, give it your blessing, Gun Jesus.
Maybe if we find out who actually made it?
Russian Bot aka CNN's Anonymous sources I think they said Croatia
HS Products from Croatia
I think it's a good product, lots of really good choices out there, It is the good "OL DAYS". Red dots are excellent for us older people that have vision problems or wear class's. It won't be long APEX will come out with a trigger kit for it,an all's we need is a green laser/ light combo an we will be gtg.
Great First impressions. Looking forward to the review in a few months. Excellent non biased/political overview
when Ian said it had a stupid name i thought he was going to say Springfield :)
The pinky extension on the 11 rounder gives a very good full grip, but also prints pretty much just as bad as the 13 rounder.
The only reason I carry the 11 rounder in the gun is because I seat the 13 rounder better and would imagine a failed reload to be more likely than needing 13 instead of 11 on my first mag.
The pistol was perfectly zeroed but the first shot to the spinner was a miss. Just goes to show Gun Jesus's enemy will always be that target representing a foul warp demon entity.
I wish there would be disassembly
Seems like a very nice setup :)
Does the 15+4 have cycling/slide lock issues with this extension using the factory mag springs? Is a stronger mag spring required?