This is a great video thanks so much. Very informative! I have a shut off issue with this engine. Cat 226B with a 3024C in it and two weeks ago we had a diesel runaway situation with thick black smoke where the operator did not know where the emergency shutoff was and the machine shutdown by itself. During this none of the electronics where functional . We let if cool and now we can start and operate the machine but it wont shut down. I removed the solenoid and bench tested it as well as the voltage from the key and it seems fine. I took it to the local Cat service people and after a week of nothing but telling me I need a new solenoid I pulled the machine out and ordered the part myself. Now the problem is that the threads on the new solenoid dont match the original and either does the clip. The service shop put the Cat part at $430 plus it requires a jumper clip at $125 The part I have was only $65 but is useless. My question is if in a runaway situation if the no shutoff is related to overheating those springs inside the linkage cover? Could that be the actual problem because we have both no shutoff and also engine surging from idle. Any help would be appreciated.
Hi Steve, just a quick note to thank you for the video. I know it was a while ago but I bought a Perkins 100.25 2 cylinder and have started to rebuild it. The manual on the timing cover springs sucks and watching your video gave me the info I needed.... Got love You Tube!
Working on a new holland tc29 the shibaura diesel is identical. I have governor issues too. My camshaft governor setup is identical as well. I didn't know cat and perkins must have bought the rights to this from shibaura. I'm having issues with engine repair specs on this governor portion. Thanks so much for posting. Mine is a 3 cylinder
Thanks again for the video brother..question.. I bought a frank no start new Holland with this engine, they supposedly replaced the injection lump and injectors, i replaced glow plugs and took injectors apart and cleaned them good. Replaced the shut off solenoid and fuel pickup pump and wired it to a toggle so i can either keep it pumping or shut it down if it starts but it hasn't even attempted to fire. I can't seem to get fuel to the number 2 injector when i crack the line. The old solenoid plunge is bent and marred up like they tried removing injection pump without removing it first. I'm thinking they screwed up the linkage, it won't come out as if there's something holding it where that shut off piece slides in and out of the pump. Also doesn't have the spring or bar/bolt for the emergency shut down just a little cylindrical piece with a hole through the center. I really need to get the oil cooler out of my way so i can pull the cover, is there a pressure relief for the hydraulic system i need to worry about before i crack that hard line on the oil cooler? Also when removing/installing the injection pump does the cam need to be in any certain position? I appreciate any help brother! Would also appreciate any leads on replacement part supplier.. Thanks again bro!
This is a great video thanks so much. How do you assemble accelerator links and Governor links on the timing cover for a perkins type gk65671 3 cylinder.
Great video I have a 2004 cat 242b with the 3024c engine and I can run it for hours no problem then randomly the oil pressure light will come on. It'll flicker at 1st then come on solid I can idle down and it will go off or dim flicker then if I shut it off for a minute then start it back up it will be fine for awhile.or it may come back on in 5 minutes. It has fresh oil and filters. Could it have a bad pick up tube but that doesn't make sense to be so random or junk in pick up screen. Do you have to pull engine to get to the tube or front cover. Engine runs fine and makes no weird noises and I changed oil pressure switch and is the same thanks
Hie Stephen I hope I find you well, I enjoyed your video of the throttle governor,plz can you help me with tonque settings for cat 226b engine 3024C engine overhaul tonque settings
Hi Steve, Query, on these engines, I just fitted a new pump, disassembled & marked as i took apart, fitted alloy pump body to block then the timing gear & pump inner, lined up washer on outer part of pump with peg in front cover,Assembled & put analogue gauge on it to check oil pressure, Now i av no oil pressure, What av i done wrong or over looked, ??, Ta M
Hey Stephen I'm stuck with one of these c2.2 engines and she is stubborn to start during colder weather, after 10 - 15 min of messing with it, it will start throw a bit off black smoke and go. After that for the rest of the day it starts perfectly, I replaced the glow plugs no difference. I need advise please??????
hi steven i put a cat perkins 4 cylinder diesel in my w4 loader and it only runs at high rpm i was told its because its a generator ingine ive moved the metering rod to all positions and it eather kills it or run high
Great video on the timing cover. When I installed mine after an engine rebuild the fuel shut off moves the lever for the injector pump. But when I move the throttle lever nothing moves? Is this normal? Also I had a question about timing. When I set all the timing marks so they line up the #1 piston is not at TDC? Is it supposed to be? Thanks for your help
Hi dude. I have a Catterpillar 3024C, with excess of fuel pump inside. The inject pumb and the motor are new, you now what is probably happening? Sorry for the bad english, i speak spanish.
I would like to see the video on a complete rebuild for that same engine I spun a bearing in mind and I’m ready to do a rebuild on it new crank new piston new rings new bearings new boiler pump
If this solenoid fuel shutoff fails and stays closed, if continuous pressure is applied to the throttle linkage will it be able to bypass the solenoid to start the machine? I am getting no fuel to injects and believe it to be fuel shutoff solenoid. Wondering if can get the machine running to move it before replacing stuff.
Thank you If got this engine in a Skid steer getting ready to pull the moter and try to rebuild its go low compression hoping it's heads valves rings anything but cylinders you Have any advice ?
I am about to tear into one of these motors that has fuel in the oil seems like only two potential culprits, injection pump seal/o-rings and or injector o-rings, any advice?
Hello Stephen, I can see a small cylindrical tube under the fuel injection pump. What does that do? From my engine, CAT 3013, I can turn it around without feeling any resistance.
I have a question on a fuel injection pump conversion. I have a 2012 case sr160 skid steer with all kinds of electrical issues I would like to know if you can swap to machanical unit from a different N844T?thanks hope you can help!!
Seems these CAT/Perkins/Shabura engines have a lot of oil system /pump related failures. Can you share any “best practices” to avoid this. I am considering a prelube system that will also provide auxiliary oil should the mechanical oil system experience supply pressure issues. Seem like a good idea to you? Thanks Scott
Is there different governor springs for these models? I have a Perkins badged one 404c22 and it’s a generator, it had a 2 pole alternator on it 3000rpm and I have fitted a 4 pole alternator 1500rpm and it has excessive speed droop under load
I have a perkins four cylinder diesel N844 out a generator and have installed it in a mustang skid steer, is there a way to turn up the throttle? I turned the side arm and it want let me have more throttle and I need a little more than what it is set at to run the generator! Do I need to pull the front cover and adjust the governor there to get more or is do I need to turn something on the pump to get more rpms on it to work this machine I changed it to ??? Thanks Dee
Hi Steve ,I have a problem with the governor set up on a n844t shibaura engine that's in a new holland skid steer I have to keep moving the throttle up and down to get the engine start I just got it rebuild and whenever I do start the throttle go up high and when I take the Rev off it shout down the engine I pull the front cover off an find that the small spring at the to was not in place can u please tell me where exact to put the spring thank you
got a c2.2 prefix G7L, similar governor. low power under load. good compression good fuel getting to injection pump, new pump. in time. i suspect something wrong in governor. checked all the things this video stated. everything looks good. I can make a video showing you all i have done. do youhave any ideas on it
Quick question, I have the N843 Perkins, everything essentially the same except 3 cylinders and mine does not have a manual shutdown lever. I am having no throttle response from the throttle cable. Everything inside the cover is put together as it should be. With the pump removed the lever governor linkage to the pump only moves about an 1/8- 1/4". Is this correct. I bent the slide rod and it was stuck at wide open throttle so It will idle up but the linkage is not making it do so. I tried to call the number from one of your videos but it is no longer accepting calls. Any advice would help.
Hello I'm wondering if you can help me. I have a perkins 700 series and I need to rebuild the engine. The problem I'm having is that I need 2 special tools to remove, install and set up the injection pump. Do you know where I can get them or someone who can rebuild this? Also do you have any tricks I can use to get away with not using the special tools?
Got a question. Got that same engine and has some fuel in the oil pan. I wanna rebuild the pump cause I guessing that the fuel is coming from the injection pump I was told that I need some special to retime the fuel pump. Is that true?
Stephen, I have a 2013 LS XR4046 with the Shirbaura engine. I’ve had numerous problems with the DPF system. Luckily, my tractor still has mechanical throttle linkage on the side of the injection pump. This thing has been to the dealer several times and it’s the same crap. Thousands of dollars and it keeps going into limp mode due to the DPF. I decided I was tired of it. I have removed the fuel solenoid, but left in wired up, and capped the threaded hole at the back of the injection pump. I can control the rpm manually for about 5 seconds with the mechanical throttle cable connection point but then nothing. It then starts acting like it’s in limp mode again. This is all with the fuel solenoid removed. Is there another component I’m unaware that the ECU is using to control the throttle? Essentially, I want to put the engine back to old school, and control the throttle manually. Any suggestions or guidance? Also, I’ve run it with the DPF sensor and temp sensors disconnected and connected, and with the ECU grounded and not grounded. Does not change symptoms. Thank you.
Buenos dias pregunta porque rompe la varillas y la stras se dobla el tiempo esta con lad marcas per quiro saber la altura de la guia de la vakbula o tengo que salir de las marcas del ciguinial es motir 844 l
I have problem with my engine, it's running a 20kva alternator, after loading it up to 11kva, the engine will go down slowly, and the load trip off,then the engine will go up again.pls what could be the problem.thanks
Great video! I have the same engine. It was just rebuilt by a professional. I have 100hrs on it. But, it surges (or hunts) at idle. The tach goes back and forth from 1000 to 1100 rpms. Any guess where my problem is?
Amigo bom dia, estou com problema, acelera o motor ela demora de responder para chegar na rpm maxima e quando liga no motor hidraulico fica mais fraca ainda !
hey stephen how you doing. i recently bought one same kind of engine but have some confusion about it governor setup, if you do read this comment please do get to me asap. many thanks for taking concern. is shell be waiting for your response anxiously.
Buenas noches ub favor tengo un motor3024 cuando calo el sistema hidráulico las revoluciones se caen bastante turbo ya canbie empaque separador balbulas también bonba inyectores tiene algo que ver l a acelacion o la varilla de solenoide
Buenas tardes, tengo un problema con un motor del mismo modelo que el de su video, lo acabó de ajustar y me tarda mucho para arrancar aun precalentandole, no hablo ingles, ojala me pudiera ayudar. Gracias
Tenho uma case Sr 175, que sai fumaça preta de diesel mais não pega, já chequei cabeçote , juntas, válvulas, pistões e está tudo bom, mais não quer pegar de jeito nenhum. Acho que está com problema na injeção de combustível.
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Thanks for the video brother! Just bought a new holland with crank/ no start and i now have a starting point to get going.. Preciate it!
This is a great video thanks so much. Very informative! I have a shut off issue with this engine. Cat 226B with a 3024C in it and two weeks ago we had a diesel runaway situation with thick black smoke where the operator did not know where the emergency shutoff was and the machine shutdown by itself. During this none of the electronics where functional . We let if cool and now we can start and operate the machine but it wont shut down. I removed the solenoid and bench tested it as well as the voltage from the key and it seems fine. I took it to the local Cat service people and after a week of nothing but telling me I need a new solenoid I pulled the machine out and ordered the part myself. Now the problem is that the threads on the new solenoid dont match the original and either does the clip. The service shop put the Cat part at $430 plus it requires a jumper clip at $125 The part I have was only $65 but is useless. My question is if in a runaway situation if the no shutoff is related to overheating those springs inside the linkage cover? Could that be the actual problem because we have both no shutoff and also engine surging from idle. Any help would be appreciated.
Very helpful video, thank you, excellent preview of what to expect while troubleshooting a sluggish/sticky governor on a new holland tractor.
Hi Steve, just a quick note to thank you for the video. I know it was a while ago but I bought a Perkins 100.25 2 cylinder and have started to rebuild it. The manual on the timing cover springs sucks and watching your video gave me the info I needed.... Got love You Tube!
Working on a new holland tc29 the shibaura diesel is identical. I have governor issues too. My camshaft governor setup is identical as well. I didn't know cat and perkins must have bought the rights to this from shibaura. I'm having issues with engine repair specs on this governor portion. Thanks so much for posting. Mine is a 3 cylinder
Thanks alot for the information. I beg you to help and show me how to disconnect that long rod that goes the fuel injector. Thanks
I actually thought this Shibaura N844 was known as a cat 3024.. I bought a new Holland ls160 and the engine has a Cat valve cover on it..
Good video, great information. It solved my problems
Thanks again for the video brother..question.. I bought a frank no start new Holland with this engine, they supposedly replaced the injection lump and injectors, i replaced glow plugs and took injectors apart and cleaned them good. Replaced the shut off solenoid and fuel pickup pump and wired it to a toggle so i can either keep it pumping or shut it down if it starts but it hasn't even attempted to fire.
I can't seem to get fuel to the number 2 injector when i crack the line. The old solenoid plunge is bent and marred up like they tried removing injection pump without removing it first.
I'm thinking they screwed up the linkage, it won't come out as if there's something holding it where that shut off piece slides in and out of the pump. Also doesn't have the spring or bar/bolt for the emergency shut down just a little cylindrical piece with a hole through the center. I really need to get the oil cooler out of my way so i can pull the cover, is there a pressure relief for the hydraulic system i need to worry about before i crack that hard line on the oil cooler?
Also when removing/installing the injection pump does the cam need to be in any certain position? I appreciate any help brother! Would also appreciate any leads on replacement part supplier.. Thanks again bro!
This is a great video thanks so much. How do you assemble accelerator links and Governor links on the timing cover for a perkins type gk65671 3 cylinder.
Is the assembly video for this engine available. I can’t find it. I have problems installing the oil pump and timing the engine. Thanks Stephan
Great video I have a 2004 cat 242b with the 3024c engine and I can run it for hours no problem then randomly the oil pressure light will come on. It'll flicker at 1st then come on solid I can idle down and it will go off or dim flicker then if I shut it off for a minute then start it back up it will be fine for awhile.or it may come back on in 5 minutes. It has fresh oil and filters. Could it have a bad pick up tube but that doesn't make sense to be so random or junk in pick up screen. Do you have to pull engine to get to the tube or front cover. Engine runs fine and makes no weird noises and I changed oil pressure switch and is the same thanks
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Hie Stephen I hope I find you well, I enjoyed your video of the throttle governor,plz can you help me with tonque settings for cat 226b engine 3024C engine overhaul tonque settings
Thank you for sharing sir'
Watch the clip behind timing cover plate to block interface .
It must be indexed to plate or cover will not crush gasket and leak oil
Thanks for posting!
Чувак, спасибо за видео. Очень полезное
Great video. 👍
Hi Steve, Query, on these engines, I just fitted a new pump, disassembled & marked as i took apart, fitted alloy pump body to block then the timing gear & pump inner, lined up washer on outer part of pump with peg in front cover,Assembled & put analogue gauge on it to check oil pressure, Now i av no oil pressure, What av i done wrong or over looked, ??, Ta M
Hey Stephen I'm stuck with one of these c2.2 engines and she is stubborn to start during colder weather, after 10 - 15 min of messing with it, it will start throw a bit off black smoke and go. After that for the rest of the day it starts perfectly, I replaced the glow plugs no difference. I need advise please??????
If I’m just changing out my injection pump it shouldn’t throw off timing at all correct??
hi steven i put a cat perkins 4 cylinder diesel in my w4 loader and it only runs at high rpm i was told its because its a generator ingine ive moved the metering rod to all positions and it eather kills it or run high
Same system on the Perkins 404c-22
Great video on the timing cover. When I installed mine after an engine rebuild the fuel shut off moves the lever for the injector pump. But when I move the throttle lever nothing moves? Is this normal?
Also I had a question about timing. When I set all the timing marks so they line up the #1 piston is not at TDC? Is it supposed to be?
Thanks for your help
yes the same scenario for me, is that normal?
Hi dude. I have a Catterpillar 3024C, with excess of fuel pump inside. The inject pumb and the motor are new, you now what is probably happening?
Sorry for the bad english, i speak spanish.
I would like to see the video on a complete rebuild for that same engine I spun a bearing in mind and I’m ready to do a rebuild on it new crank new piston new rings new bearings new boiler pump
If this solenoid fuel shutoff fails and stays closed, if continuous pressure is applied to the throttle linkage will it be able to bypass the solenoid to start the machine?
I am getting no fuel to injects and believe it to be fuel shutoff solenoid. Wondering if can get the machine running to move it before replacing stuff.
Bendiciones muchas gracias
Thanks for the update. I am trying to take the front cover of the 3024c with no success. Is there any other bolts on the back?
Thank you If got this engine in a Skid steer getting ready to pull the moter and try to rebuild its go low compression hoping it's heads valves rings anything but cylinders you Have any advice ?
I am about to tear into one of these motors that has fuel in the oil seems like only two potential culprits, injection pump seal/o-rings and or injector o-rings, any advice?
You find anything out on that. Having the same issue. My engine cranks right over and starts...thinking that injection pump is leaking by.
Hello Stephen, I can see a small cylindrical tube under the fuel injection pump. What does that do? From my engine, CAT 3013, I can turn it around without feeling any resistance.
I have a question on a fuel injection pump conversion. I have a 2012 case sr160 skid steer with all kinds of electrical issues I would like to know if you can swap to machanical unit from a different N844T?thanks hope you can help!!
Thanks
Seems these CAT/Perkins/Shabura engines have a lot of oil system /pump related failures.
Can you share any “best practices” to avoid this.
I am considering a prelube system that will also provide auxiliary oil should the mechanical oil system experience supply pressure issues. Seem like a good idea to you?
Thanks
Scott
What the cost is a run down by itself, when you start it
Where do I get a replacement idle return spring?
Is there different governor springs for these models? I have a Perkins badged one 404c22 and it’s a generator, it had a 2 pole alternator on it 3000rpm and I have fitted a 4 pole alternator 1500rpm and it has excessive speed droop under load
I have a perkins four cylinder diesel N844 out a generator and have installed it in a mustang skid steer, is there a way to turn up the throttle? I turned the side arm and it want let me have more throttle and I need a little more than what it is set at to run the generator! Do I need to pull the front cover and adjust the governor there to get more or is do I need to turn something on the pump to get more rpms on it to work this machine I changed it to ??? Thanks Dee
Which is the adjustment for high idle we did an engine change from generator to skid loader
Hi Steve ,I have a problem with the governor set up on a n844t shibaura engine that's in a new holland skid steer I have to keep moving the throttle up and down to get the engine start I just got it rebuild and whenever I do start the throttle go up high and when I take the Rev off it shout down the engine I pull the front cover off an find that the small spring at the to was not in place can u please tell me where exact to put the spring thank you
got a c2.2 prefix G7L, similar governor. low power under load. good compression good fuel getting to injection pump, new pump. in time. i suspect something wrong in governor. checked all the things this video stated. everything looks good. I can make a video showing you all i have done. do youhave any ideas on it
Did you fix it?
Quick question, I have the N843 Perkins, everything essentially the same except 3 cylinders and mine does not have a manual shutdown lever. I am having no throttle response from the throttle cable. Everything inside the cover is put together as it should be. With the pump removed the lever governor linkage to the pump only moves about an 1/8- 1/4". Is this correct. I bent the slide rod and it was stuck at wide open throttle so It will idle up but the linkage is not making it do so. I tried to call the number from one of your videos but it is no longer accepting calls. Any advice would help.
How do you remove the linkage from an old broken cover to install into a new cover that has no linkage assembky?
Hello I'm wondering if you can help me. I have a perkins 700 series and I need to rebuild the engine. The problem I'm having is that I need 2 special tools to remove, install and set up the injection pump. Do you know where I can get them or someone who can rebuild this? Also do you have any tricks I can use to get away with not using the special tools?
Got a question.
Got that same engine and has some fuel in the oil pan. I wanna rebuild the pump cause I guessing that the fuel is coming from the injection pump I was told that I need some special to retime the fuel pump. Is that true?
I have a 3 cylinder Perkins APU it's around 20 hp. What is the PSI on the lift pump . thanks.
Stephen, I have a 2013 LS XR4046 with the Shirbaura engine. I’ve had numerous problems with the DPF system. Luckily, my tractor still has mechanical throttle linkage on the side of the injection pump. This thing has been to the dealer several times and it’s the same crap. Thousands of dollars and it keeps going into limp mode due to the DPF. I decided I was tired of it. I have removed the fuel solenoid, but left in wired up, and capped the threaded hole at the back of the injection pump. I can control the rpm manually for about 5 seconds with the mechanical throttle cable connection point but then nothing. It then starts acting like it’s in limp mode again. This is all with the fuel solenoid removed. Is there another component I’m unaware that the ECU is using to control the throttle? Essentially, I want to put the engine back to old school, and control the throttle manually. Any suggestions or guidance? Also, I’ve run it with the DPF sensor and temp sensors disconnected and connected, and with the ECU grounded and not grounded. Does not change symptoms. Thank you.
What did you end up doing on yours?
Stephen how do I remove the timing cover and plate behind it on 3024 cat
Buenos dias pregunta porque rompe la varillas y la stras se dobla el tiempo esta con lad marcas per quiro saber la altura de la guia de la vakbula o tengo que salir de las marcas del ciguinial es motir 844 l
Hello sir up can talk the black double case thing of this parcanic engine.
Apparently this is a dead video but if anyone can point me to a reputable overhaul kit I'd appreciate it!
How you change the o ring on the injection pump
I have problem with my engine, it's running a 20kva alternator, after loading it up to 11kva, the engine will go down slowly, and the load trip off,then the engine will go up again.pls what could be the problem.thanks
Great video! I have the same engine. It was just rebuilt by a professional. I have 100hrs on it. But, it surges (or hunts) at idle. The tach goes back and forth from 1000 to 1100 rpms. Any guess where my problem is?
Same issue I am also facing.. kindly advise if any solution
Amigo bom dia, estou com problema, acelera o motor ela demora de responder para chegar na rpm maxima e quando liga no motor hidraulico fica mais fraca ainda !
Need some help with a 226b, trying to pull the cover.
Hello sar I have gorner pin broken how know fitting
do you need to time the injection pump? If so how?
hey stephen how you doing. i recently bought one same kind of engine but have some confusion about it governor setup, if you do read this comment please do get to me asap. many thanks for taking concern. is shell be waiting for your response anxiously.
Hi bro,how to time the engine and fuel pump.
Buenas noches ub favor tengo un motor3024 cuando calo el sistema hidráulico las revoluciones se caen bastante turbo ya canbie empaque separador balbulas también bonba inyectores tiene algo que ver l a acelacion o la varilla de solenoide
Me i ask,what is the valve clearance sked loader
So i have the cat 3024c and i cant seem to get it to idle up. It was at high idle then it just went to low 1500 rpms. Anyone have a solution.
Hey I'm trying to take out the pump from perkins N844 but it's not coming out can you send me video taking one out
Buenas tardes, tengo un problema con un motor del mismo modelo que el de su video, lo acabó de ajustar y me tarda mucho para arrancar aun precalentandole, no hablo ingles, ojala me pudiera ayudar. Gracias
N844t has a lot off black smoke trying to start but never cranks
Boa tarde por favor como retirar o eixo completo da bomba de óleo desse motor ???
Hey I have a cat 257b with the 3024c Perkins engine in it and it’s getting diesel inside the motor oil and it won’t start any idea what caused it ?
Injection pump seals
Tenho uma case Sr 175, que sai fumaça preta de diesel mais não pega, já chequei cabeçote , juntas, válvulas, pistões e está tudo bom, mais não quer pegar de jeito nenhum. Acho que está com problema na injeção de combustível.
Eu a desliguei forçando a alavanca com o motor em marcha lenta, e ela não quis mais pegar
Hello sar c2.2 sem engine oil watar mix oil broking 3pisat brok heta brook riper no riper bro
Cual es el toque de motor 2.2c
EINGEN STAT OVER speet problem no ctrol
maybe some one got mad at it ....and had enough!!!!
Q pusing ngatasinnya.ced.c2.2 susah hidup.apa penyebabnya.cari solusinya.
Kalo susah hidup penyebab apanya
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Hola estimado puede hablar en español ??? Hello dear you can speech in spanish??????
Hi how do you get the external throttle lever on the splined sharft timed properly
How does the injector pump come apart I was told there's a plate that acts as a shim, if bent can cause run issues is this true?