Could you post the name of the delivery captain/company so people know not to use them. I would be pissed if this was my boat and I saw no attempt made to secure the Bimini, cushions, main, or go below... very irresponsible not watching the weather.
Ever been caught out in conditions like that? I have. These guys are just trying to survive. The cushions and Bimini will go down with ship, stowed or not if they lose control in the situation. What's puzzling to me is how they are bashing INTO it. When things get THAT ugly and you have the searoom, either heave-to, forereach, or run-off with those nasty seas and winds on your quarter. I looked to a squall, so it's duration would have been limited. I also would have ordered all unnecessary crew below. In those conditions, only one person needs to be on deck steering - if that.
@@TheWilliamHoganExperience I have to go with Rich Sawoszczyk on this one--the dodger and bimini should have been stowed and lashed. And two on deck, max, unless there is a call for all hands on deck to take care of a problem. And yes, I think I would have hove-to for awhile, though I have pushed through similar conditions.
@@danwhitens agree about stowing lose items and flapping canvas, but I'm an experienced ocean sailor, as you are apparently. I once spent 5 hours beating into a Sea of Cortez gale. In a 20 foot Pacific Seacraft Flicka. Without an engine, autopilot or electricity. With a hanked-on 80% working jib. At night. After sailing that fucker 1000 nm from Los Angeles. In the dead of winter. Did I mention the boat lacked an engine? It wasn't the first time I'd been caught out in such conditions, but I sure as hell remember what it was like my first time, and it wasn't pretty. This is clearly an inexperienced crew, so I'm cutting them some slack. They survived and so did the boat. I could have easily ended tragically. It didn't. The question is why the owner handed his boat over to such a motley delivery crew. I'm going to guess that like many people with enough money to purchase such a boat he was a cheap bastard, and didn't want to shell out the $$$ to get his trophy back to his home port. Not cheap enough to try to bring it back himself mind you, but cheap enough to hand the keys to a bunch of lubbers. His canvas and cushions paid the price you see, for the sea doesn't suffer fools or cheapskates gladly lol... =)
@@TheWilliamHoganExperience Right you are...I respect your Flicka experience--what a great boat. I've left sturdy biminis up and I've taken some down, depending on what I saw coming. The key is to prepare, and these kids didn't. I did round Hatteras in a gale a few decades ago, double-handed; sent my mate below where she planted herself on the cabin sole. I DID stow the dodger and bimini that time, and glad I did. Triple-reefed main worked for the broad reach. Floater suit and of course harnessed in and couldn't let go of the wheel for 13 hours! Autopilot not to be trusted in these cases. Hallucinations set in around the 10 hour mark! Like when I passed under the bridge that runs from Cape Hatteras to France!
So much needless damage to that boat and a delivery no less. Imagine the owners watching this and the ease with which they could file a lawsuit for negligence.
As others have pointed out...any ounce of experience, would "batten down " everything including the canvas tops and reduce sail. Don't get these guys to deliver...no responsibility, no signs of experience.
Did a double-handed winter delivery from Greece to Croatia. two storm nights, Gulf of Corinth and South Adriatic Sea. If I kept the bimini up it would have been a total loss (of the bimini). They have daylight and what did not see the storm cell? I just do not get it.
Never mind the shredded canvas. At the end you see 2 people in a wide open companionway. A 20 footer can swamp that boat in an instance. If care wasn't taken to secure basic items, most likely the survival equipment including pumps would be in question. It's one thing to say you have made it to port, but in what condition and how close you were to disaster.
Be interesting to know yacht make and model. And to all the arm chair experts. You weren't there. If someone posts a video Clip which is very interesting to see, armchair negative comments are not helpful. So if you can't say something nice then perhaps consider what you write. It can be rude, quite offensive and ultimately people won't post useful videos for fear of negative rubbish. So thanks for posting a really interesting and very scary experience. And yes I know what it can be like but everyone's personal experience is their experience. Cheers
What a negativity, nobody knows the ins and outs of the deal and most definitely the window the delivery company had, running into this meteorological mess. Most of us do not choose to be in this position and act accordingly, I’ve experienced the weather change four times a day in the bay of Biscay in matter of minutes. The fact that most of the crew is on deck might indicate that this is a complete surprise, and nothing is more valuable than morale of the crew in those situations, a Bimini is the least of your worries. Thanks for the content.
A combination. Yes, looks like they were frozen in shock, out of their element. I have been there before many years and tens of thousands of miles ago. And yes, under the circumstances the Bimini and dodger should have come down but I think that was the least of their problems. And I must say that I have sailed many times in bad conditions like this and my dodger and Bimini never had any problems. They must be kept bow tight. Really tight. Or if not come down. And any loose ends and it will just worsen. If this came on them fast that might have been there last concern. I am a 100 ton master and have done a number of deliveries. Although I must say that I try to avoid them. Way too much responsibility with someone else’s problems for not enough money. My guess is that this came on them fast and that they were not experienced or prepared enough. “The sea is a cruel master” Very glad that they were OK in the end. (I presume). And believe me, its easy to judge from an easy chair but we weren’t there. \
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale A tale of a fateful trip That started from this tropic port Aboard this tiny ship The mate was a mighty sailing man The skipper brave and sure Five passengers set sail that day For a three hour tour, a three hour tour The weather started getting rough The tiny ship was tossed If not for the courage of the fearless crew The minnow would be lost, the minnow would be lost
Obviously we weren’t there, and it is easy to criticise from an armchair. The situation was difficult, but from the vid there the advance preparation was nil. It is not clear who the skipper was; the Bimini etc should have been stowed long ago; they have too much canvas up; they should/could have hove to, and only essential crew should have been on deck, everyone else down below, safer, and resting. If this is hard now, how are you going to deal with it when it gets dark?
THESE ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS TOTAL SHAMBLES,EVERYTHING ON THIS UPLOAD IS HOW NOT TO DO IT . FROM SAFETY OF THE CREW TO THE CARE AND PROTECTION OF THE VESSEL AND EQUIPMENT.
When that girl said, "We should bring the main in.", I thought that should have been done long ago along with the bimini and the rest. I would be so mad at whoever entrusted my boat to these irresponsible children.
See the two idiots just sitting there taking selfies and laughing while the boat is being destroyed? What are they doing up there? This video is evidence for the owner.
Should have covers off the boat and reefed back. Lots of cowboys out there and they are not paying the damages bill. In perth aistralia saturday afternoon sailing in in 25 to 35 knot winds and gusts. After a while you get to know about sailing in slightly stronger winds.
Why weren't you watching the weather forecasts and plotting differently? As soon as I saw the clouds ahead it would have been to secure the boat for it. After all, it is the only thing there that will allow you to survive. You had 3 extra hands to get the work done.
Brutal. Tore up.tje bimini, dodger and sails for the owner. Hope they got all that replace by delivery crew. Check the conditions and weather before. Seriously!
Crew is getting a nice laugh out of tearing up someone else's boat. Glad you're safe though.
Could you post the name of the delivery captain/company so people know not to use them. I would be pissed if this was my boat and I saw no attempt made to secure the Bimini, cushions, main, or go below... very irresponsible not watching the weather.
Ever been caught out in conditions like that? I have. These guys are just trying to survive. The cushions and Bimini will go down with ship, stowed or not if they lose control in the situation. What's puzzling to me is how they are bashing INTO it. When things get THAT ugly and you have the searoom, either heave-to, forereach, or run-off with those nasty seas and winds on your quarter. I looked to a squall, so it's duration would have been limited. I also would have ordered all unnecessary crew below. In those conditions, only one person needs to be on deck steering - if that.
Don’t be too quick to judge. You weren’t there.
@@TheWilliamHoganExperience I have to go with Rich Sawoszczyk on this one--the dodger and bimini should have been stowed and lashed. And two on deck, max, unless there is a call for all hands on deck to take care of a problem. And yes, I think I would have hove-to for awhile, though I have pushed through similar conditions.
@@danwhitens agree about stowing lose items and flapping canvas, but I'm an experienced ocean sailor, as you are apparently. I once spent 5 hours beating into a Sea of Cortez gale. In a 20 foot Pacific Seacraft Flicka. Without an engine, autopilot or electricity. With a hanked-on 80% working jib. At night. After sailing that fucker 1000 nm from Los Angeles. In the dead of winter. Did I mention the boat lacked an engine? It wasn't the first time I'd been caught out in such conditions, but I sure as hell remember what it was like my first time, and it wasn't pretty. This is clearly an inexperienced crew, so I'm cutting them some slack. They survived and so did the boat. I could have easily ended tragically. It didn't. The question is why the owner handed his boat over to such a motley delivery crew. I'm going to guess that like many people with enough money to purchase such a boat he was a cheap bastard, and didn't want to shell out the $$$ to get his trophy back to his home port. Not cheap enough to try to bring it back himself mind you, but cheap enough to hand the keys to a bunch of lubbers. His canvas and cushions paid the price you see, for the sea doesn't suffer fools or cheapskates gladly lol... =)
@@TheWilliamHoganExperience Right you are...I respect your Flicka experience--what a great boat. I've left sturdy biminis up and I've taken some down, depending on what I saw coming. The key is to prepare, and these kids didn't.
I did round Hatteras in a gale a few decades ago, double-handed; sent my mate below where she planted herself on the cabin sole. I DID stow the dodger and bimini that time, and glad I did. Triple-reefed main worked for the broad reach. Floater suit and of course harnessed in and couldn't let go of the wheel for 13 hours! Autopilot not to be trusted in these cases. Hallucinations set in around the 10 hour mark! Like when I passed under the bridge that runs from Cape Hatteras to France!
Not professional. Unnecessary crew members out, Bimini, etc... they are irresponsible
Looks like the skippers didn't have the experience required. You tie everything on the deck and never leave the hood and bimini with such wind.
hamrite This was the crew's first time offshore! They had only been out on kayaks before this
It shows!
Its call a weather forecast you should of known what was coming and waited it out...
So much needless damage to that boat and a delivery no less. Imagine the owners watching this and the ease with which they could file a lawsuit for negligence.
All non-essential crew down in the cabin and lock it down next time.
As others have pointed out...any ounce of experience, would "batten down " everything including the canvas tops and reduce sail. Don't get these guys to deliver...no responsibility, no signs of experience.
Did a double-handed winter delivery from Greece to Croatia. two storm nights, Gulf of Corinth and South Adriatic Sea. If I kept the bimini up it would have been a total loss (of the bimini). They have daylight and what did not see the storm cell? I just do not get it.
Never mind the shredded canvas. At the end you see 2 people in a wide open companionway. A 20 footer can swamp that boat in an instance.
If care wasn't taken to secure basic items, most likely the survival equipment including pumps would be in question. It's one thing to say you have made it to port, but in what condition and how close you were to disaster.
Crazy , this story of bimini !
And no storm jib !
Be interesting to know yacht make and model. And to all the arm chair experts. You weren't there. If someone posts a video Clip which is very interesting to see, armchair negative comments are not helpful. So if you can't say something nice then perhaps consider what you write. It can be rude, quite offensive and ultimately people won't post useful videos for fear of negative rubbish. So thanks for posting a really interesting and very scary experience. And yes I know what it can be like but everyone's personal experience is their experience. Cheers
What a negativity, nobody knows the ins and outs of the deal and most definitely the window the delivery company had, running into this meteorological mess. Most of us do not choose to be in this position and act accordingly, I’ve experienced the weather change four times a day in the bay of Biscay in matter of minutes. The fact that most of the crew is on deck might indicate that this is a complete surprise, and nothing is more valuable than morale of the crew in those situations, a Bimini is the least of your worries. Thanks for the content.
A combination. Yes, looks like they were frozen in shock, out of their element. I have been there before many years and tens of thousands of miles ago. And yes, under the circumstances the Bimini and dodger should have come down but I think that was the least of their problems. And I must say that I have sailed many times in bad conditions like this and my dodger and Bimini never had any problems. They must be kept bow tight. Really tight. Or if not come down. And any loose ends and it will just worsen. If this came on them fast that might have been there last concern. I am a 100 ton master and have done a number of deliveries. Although I must say that I try to avoid them. Way too much responsibility with someone else’s problems for not enough money. My guess is that this came on them fast and that they were not experienced or prepared enough. “The sea is a cruel master” Very glad that they were OK in the end. (I presume). And believe me, its easy to judge from an easy chair but we weren’t there. \
Good time to check for movement in the keel bolts
It's a good thing that wasn't really a violent storm.
What a shame
In those winds you should store bimini away.
They have enough deckhand for that.
I would charge them the ripping for negligence
Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
ken mccallum Glad you enjoyed the show
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale
A tale of a fateful trip
That started from this tropic port
Aboard this tiny ship
The mate was a mighty sailing man
The skipper brave and sure
Five passengers set sail that day
For a three hour tour, a three hour tour
The weather started getting rough
The tiny ship was tossed
If not for the courage of the fearless crew
The minnow would be lost, the minnow would be lost
Glad they weren’t my delivery crew. They owe the guy about 20k in Bimini.
to entrust my ship to them? Never !
God was with you as does not seems you care at all about the boat
if god cared ..she would NOT have such high winds duh !
Two wheels. “I want to point port”. No, let’s head starboard a bit”.
This is especially scary for me because i live on a sailboat
I'm glad they laughing and having fin as the boats shreds to pieces
So I am not a sailer but wondering if the guys should have listenedd to the female that said they need to bring down the main?
Never give your boat to a deliver service. That's what my grandpa told me, when I owned my first.
Obviously we weren’t there, and it is easy to criticise from an armchair. The situation was difficult, but from the vid there the advance preparation was nil. It is not clear who the skipper was; the Bimini etc should have been stowed long ago; they have too much canvas up; they should/could have hove to, and only essential crew should have been on deck, everyone else down below, safer, and resting. If this is hard now, how are you going to deal with it when it gets dark?
A masterpiece of bad seamanship on a boat which is not their own... unbelieveable!
THESE ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS
TOTAL SHAMBLES,EVERYTHING ON THIS UPLOAD IS HOW NOT TO DO IT .
FROM SAFETY OF THE CREW TO THE CARE AND PROTECTION OF THE VESSEL AND EQUIPMENT.
Scary stuff!!
Did you know thar during this wether you must first remove the bimini.
It must be so much fun destroying someone else boat.
Also ridiculous design of modern boats cockpit (or absence of )
That's pretty scary to be in rough seas like that in such a small boat.
Nice delivery of a destroyed boat 😂😂😂… what are you doing with the Bimini out??? The owner must have been happy 😃
Tell me, were you trying to destroy the all the canvas?
The boat is not secured properly, but still cool.
Aaooo amazing
Music unnecessary.
Nature sounds better.
I don’t understand it only takes a minute to drop all canvas. Why leave up ? The two sitting up there should have been below .
Somebody failed to look at weather charts...watch for pressure gradients and bring down that frickin' bimini!
When that girl said, "We should bring the main in.", I thought that should have been done long ago along with the bimini and the rest. I would be so mad at whoever entrusted my boat to these irresponsible children.
See the two idiots just sitting there taking selfies and laughing while the boat is being destroyed? What are they doing up there?
This video is evidence for the owner.
Bloody disgusting exhibition of abusing someone else’s vessel.
How can that dude be facing backwards during those huge waves? If that was me, I'd be tossing my cookies.
Should have covers off the boat and reefed back. Lots of cowboys out there and they are not paying the damages bill. In perth aistralia saturday afternoon sailing in in 25 to 35 knot winds and gusts. After a while you get to know about sailing in slightly stronger winds.
stooges boat delivery ??
That looks like a blast . How does somebody get on a boat delivery crew?
Chucky Bananaz Call your local boat deliver captain and show interest
Lol most wont take u if dont have big sea experience
It’s a production boat, somebody fire up the barbecue!
Wow !!!! time to stay in port.
Any further comment would be superfluous.
I would have entered a marina to sit out the storms. Why take the risk and damage the boat.
whoops. . hows that canvas doing?
Cool! Element!
Wow what a adventure
Disgraceful. A good commentary on how NOT to do things.
relax storm. i like it like that!
I'm guessing there was not time or warning to take down the dodger and Bimini.
Todd Murray We saw dark clouds approaching and used our time to don life jackets and tether ourselves to a solid fixture
There is always time for a skilled seaman.
Why weren't you watching the weather forecasts and plotting differently? As soon as I saw the clouds ahead it would have been to secure the boat for it.
After all, it is the only thing there that will allow you to survive.
You had 3 extra hands to get the work done.
Avoid this at all costs.
Brutal. Tore up.tje bimini, dodger and sails for the owner. Hope they got all that replace by delivery crew. Check the conditions and weather before. Seriously!
Bonini⬇
Doghouse⬇
My Gold without shoes at the stearingwheel under these conditions
Need to get a discount
Hahaha if you are punishing your self its ok , but please be gentle with her.
Odd clip
awesome... which beneteau model was it?
D. Thompson The 54'
size is not seaworthiness...design makes a boat seaworthy.....this is not a seaworthy design
The stupid Music Ruins it
None of this seems smart. Noone seen a storm coming on radar?
All of the below and even still the traveler to weather...amateurs...
I've been in 70 mph straight line winds on Lake Superior and took everything down and motored. Short storm but hey why be stupid?
Yippee looks fun 👍
Is this a "pleasure" craft? 😎
ROOKIES
Bimini not helping at all
Waves under 3 meters is a VIOLENT ANG big waves???!!!!
lol
Forget the forecast get ur head outta the iPad and look up.. simples. Black clouds on the horizon, get to work.
Same opinion as everyone else in the comments.
No thanks.
little experience and very irresponsible