What happens when you run off all of the creative people and replace them with corporate executives and political activists? You get 7000 remakes with no creative ideas filled with propaganda.
@hopejordan2997 Plus the Real I mean the O.G. Ghostbusters are up there in age so I mean we already lost Harold Ramis so how many more times can they bring back the O.G. cast? They need to make the next film about the new team or better twenty somethings that can move the franchise forward backed by good writers who care and know what they are doing!! Before you know it they will reboot the 1984 original film LOL!?👻🚫🎥🎬
Don't blame the execs because they are execs. We execs are needed. The problem is the untalented people calling themselves creatives that the woke untalented executives hire. DEI and woke is the problem not corporate structures
@@graveyardshift6691 I know I meant with an all male cast or even a live action Real Ghostbusters. And finally bringing characters like Sam Hain, The Boogie Man and The Sand Man to the big screen!! Bring back Real Ghostbusters writer J. Michael Straczynski. Jason Reitman and Dan Aykroyd as producers. And Jason from Ghostbusters news plus Al Smith also on RUclips for their ideas and input! And I think we can get a quality Ghostbusters product for once! No more nostalgia berries or wokeness just focus on the comedy, heart and action that made the first Ghostbusters movies a success! It can be done! 👻🚫♥🙏
One of the underrated lines in South Park’s Panderverse is the Disney board members bewilderment that remaking the same old stories over and over again isn’t working anymore.
Amen. If they weren't creatively bankrupt and all share a single brain cell, their original content wouldn't suck balls with the constant agenda pushing.
Times we live in now and cuz of Snowflakes is why a lot of stuff made now sucks too what was fun and entertaining back then or what was hilarious back then is now deemed inappropriete today
Amen. If they weren't creatively bankrupt and everyone shared a single brain cell, their original content wouldn't suck so bad, and their constant agenda pushing doesn't help either.
Amen. If they weren't creatively bankrupt and everyone shared a single brain cell, their original content wouldn't suck so bad, and their constant agenda pushing doesn't help either.
Yup Millennials felt hurt because they grew up with the originals like many generations before them and Gen Z just don't give a shit because we didn't grow up with them
@@AISlopTheatre They already are making remakes of 2000's movies. Mean Girls is being re-released this year and it will be awful as everything coming out of Hollywood right now.
Gen Z has no nostalgia for legacy franchises, and progressive ideology wipes those franchises clean of anything that older generations loved about them, and fills them with woke politics. Movies made for no one. Congrats, Hollywood. You played yourself.
They can't. Hollywood is completely creatively bankrupt on new ideas. Not helped that they also no longer hire people who could actually bring forward some fresh creative stuff.
My teenage son refused to watch this with me. He said. " I only liked the first one. They're not going to make a better film than that so why bother." Made me proud, and a bit sad too. Kids deserve to have their own thing to get excited about.
instead should watch real ghost busters and exterme was way better continuation and conclusion there than what got in the movies, and ghost busters 2009 video game.
Kids have tons of stuff. You and me had to wait for summer for something good to come out. Now they just have to log in and there's going to be 1,000 new things every day + they can watch anything we used to watch without having to take a trip to blockbuster. People pretend they're nostalgic for blockbuster but forget having to bring the dang movies back. It was a trap because now you're back at blockbuster might as well rent something new. Only there's only 200 unique movies in the store and many movies have 30+ copies of the same movie nobody wants. I sure hope you want to watch Dirty Dancing for the 12th time because everything else is rented out.
"Kids deserve to have their own thing to get excited about." Absolutely. But the same ones in charge of Hollywood wish that to be draaaag queen story hour 🤣 I think anyone paying attention is now red-pilled on demented crap such as that, at least they should be.
Now I watch movies from India, China, Japan, Korea. My Hollywood is asian. And I rewatch old series, now I'm at Babylone 5, Battlestar Galactica, and attempting Buffy (on the fence about Buffy will see)
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access They are still rubbish and yet still successful was my point lol. People depress me in many ways, one example being whom they choose to elevate onto a pedestal.
A rehash guarantees both. If they had good writing and weren't mediocre they'd have an original idea. What we get is Frozen + Kill Bill in space. MEMBER KILL BILL? That's called mediocrity. You try and think of an idea and you just remember another movie you saw. That's what a rehash IS. By definition.
Even the generation that grew up with franchises like Ghostbusters are sick of remakes and the rehashing of classic movies because of the need to updating it for modern audiences, such as changing it for the sake of change. Ghostbusters 2016 and the Willow series on D+ should have been a clear sign that they can’t take the properties that people love and remake them for the woke people that won’t really care. As long as Hollywood fails to understand this, the remakes will always fail. Both the older generation and the younger generations will just not be interested.
@@PrenceBlackrock is forcing behaviors, hence Larry Fink. They used to make new things for generations though...now they just do it to appease Blackrock's ESG score which forces in that DEI...whilst they act like hypocrites themselves. All goes back to Larry, the modern audience...a boomer in reality.
The main problem is that the remakes being done today do not add anything but pretty pictures. Unlike Frozen Empire, most of the revisited IP is a cloned copy of what has come before, instead of adding anything new, and usually includes changes that is for the "Modern Audience." The best example of this goes right along with the current subject, Ghostbusters 2016. It genderswitched the characters, was written on the fly (aka Adlibed) and had a post credit scene promising a further retelling of the original movie. This did not go well in the Box Office, and Sony ended up with the sequels that we have now, ignoring the rehash that bombed in the theatres.
"Unlike Frozen Empire, most of the revisited IP is a cloned copy of what has come before, instead of adding anything new," Worth mentioning the new Dune films are technically reboots- but no one has described them as such because they are of such high quality.
@@archvaldor Probably because the last Dune film is so old that most haven't seen it. Grantred it's 80s but Dune wasn't really as Big anyways so its a Mostly new Experience. And good Cinema work contributed as well
However, the bread & butter of the movie industry is still 16-30 yr olds. Although Gen Z is the smallest demographic, a 20-something is likely to go to a movie, in theater, 5 times a year. A 40 or 50 yr old may go once a year.
@@kathyp1563 IMHO you are wrong. That's for the boomers. At least half of the Xs liked to go to the cinema nearly once a week. Now I seldom go because the movies (mostly) suck.
At least the last two Ghostbusters movies don't have the temerity to call themselves simply "Ghostbusters"- the way the 2016 movie did- as if they're going to replace the original.
I'm glad Bob Gale And Robert Zemeckis have clauses in their contracts for Back To The Future that no remakes will ever be made without their or their estates say so and they have made it very clear they REFUSE anything about BTTF4
It's the Stranger Things affect. That show made 80's pop culture trendy for a hot minute so Hollywood did what they always do with their single shared brain.
@@jaybor1683 Took the words right outta my mouth! At this point all they need is the wall, mine the bridges, and there you go. Sure they're missing the world trade towers, but nobody in 1981 could predict they wouldn't be there.
Young generations are told all the time about how those "old" movies were awesome,when the remake is filled to the brim with modern day crap it gets rejected by both,old and new generations. Not hard to realize.
But the bread & butter of the movie industry is always 16-30 yr old. Although Gen Z is the smallest demographic, a 20-something is likely to go to a movie, in theater, 5 times a year or more. And they are likely to go in a large group. Whereas, a 40-60 yr old will go maybe 1 or 2 times. And we don't collect large quantities to see the movie. We go in small groups.
@@kathyp1563 I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Gen Z doesn't care about franchises from prior to 2000, so remakes aren't going to capture the 16-30 demo.
What weird logic: "we're desperate to reach young audiences so lets sell them movies that we the producers loved 20 years before that target audience was born."
It's strange how people who were kids when they fell in love with Ghostbusters, where the main characters were adults in their 30s, somehow think that adding kids to it will kids like it. In fact, almost all of the memorable and beloved franchises from that time period had adults as main characters, yet since the mid 90s there's been a push to have kids as the main characters because that's producers have convinced themselves that's the only way kids will like them.
I read somewhere that English departments in colleges had removed old classic literature from their required reading. Logic was it was too difficult. But they require a future writer to THINK about human nature & how we are the same regardless of century, culture, or race. The problem with much of today's writing is we don't see normal people in abnormal circumstances on the screen.
The original Ghostbusters made a point that the proton packs were cumbersome for adult men to carry up a flight of stairs, and now kids are running around with them on their backs. The original Ghostbusters took its own premise seriously, and its world was lived-in and thought-out-- things that Hollywood has forgotten how to do.
I think franchise movies can be successful if they're done in a original manner. Godzilla Minus One was a perfect example of that and it wasn't even made by Hollywood. If a Godzilla movie which is around 70 years old can make a splash at the box office, then the property is doing something right. Also shame about Transformers though. Competition really ran that one to the ground
and godzilla minus one cost only 15 million to make. hollywood is lost and confused. they replaced capable people with diversity hires and this is what you get.... crap...
I appreciate how you break down the mindset of producers here. It's understandable, which at least explains the decisions. You don't let them off the hook, but you do present their case. Thank you.
The younger generation has no connection to older franchises. Hollywood can’t keep going back to what worked in the past and hope it’s going to work in the future. It won’t. Look at Star Wars and Indiana Jones, they went to the past and tried to update those franchises hoping that there was enough nostalgia and enough change that they would be popular. New audiences didn’t care about some 50 year old set of movies and the older generation didn’t like it that they changed what they loved into something unrecognizable to what they grew up with.
@@uss_cushing they were hurt by the ones that found them problematic, I.E. the woke crowd. The generation the grew up with them didn’t want them to change.
@@Prence Again the boomers are the ones in charge ultimately. They hired the DEI clowns who came in and gave them extremely bad advice. And boomers like Kathleen Kennedy will not fall on their sword to correct the situation. Now with multiple franchises in complete apathy from the audience Hollywood is growing more concerned about losing money they cannot afford lose anymore.
@@Prence There were no wokies in the 1990s but I still didn't need to hear that Bush was bad in my soi wars prequels. Yeah I get it. The President is an uber powerful sithlord who can shoot awesome lightning out of his hands. And only a based black man can save us. Th-thanks Lucas?
The problem is we can't accept that things die.... until we do. In between times we seek eternal life regardless of struggling to move forward and change. Anything worthwhile is found in the past it seems.
Like Star Wars hahaha When George made Ep1-2-3 the amount of shT he got on those movies is exactly what Disney is getting from Ep-7-8-9. 🤣 oh and since the sequel trilogy got made now EP-1-2-3 is now beloved lol
I am a 58 yo retired media exec and I TOTALLY agree! I've been saying this for 20 years! That was about the time they started making live action films out of material like "Scooby-Doo." It did well at the BoxO, so what did they do? Made another, this time "Josie & the Pussycats," yet another Saturday morning cartoon from when I WAS A KID, in the '70's and I didn't want to watch them then either! Why would I or any other younger person want that rehashed old stuff you could get on video!? "Come up with something original!" I screamed. But, no. The box office $'s kept rolling in and this crap kept getting green lighted. Don't be surprised if Hollywood doesn't get the memo until we see a "live action" CGI epic about Barney the Dinosaur! It's been 20 years and counting....ugh! I need a nap : D!
I'm not tired of the remakes, I'm tired of Hollywood. Those guys that run everything there are too cowardly to make anything new because they're afraid of their movies bombing but with their current output, they're gonna lose money regardless...
I disagree: it can work across multiple generations. The kids who enjoyed Mario growing up would be in their 40s now, with kids of their own. The Mario movie was a success because parents saw it with their kids, and that movie wasn't complete garbage.
@@funkydiscogod I think you just have low expectations. You've been fed toilet chow for so long that someone hands you spoiled food and you think its delicious. Wing Commander was a far better movie but it was panned in it's time because it was up against even better movies. Mario had no competition in sight so it's easy to pretend it was good.
@@Drak976Exactly I'm sick of everyone acting like it's soooo good when it's mid at best same with most movies from this decade and the latter part of last decade as that's when people started getting tired of these sequels nonsense
@@Drak976you are right about Mario having no competition at the box office, because at the time I checked the box office results daily and Mario was winning by a landslide! By 50 million.
When I was a kid, going to the theater was just watching a fun show for a couple hours, not that different than watching what was on TV. As far as I remember, there were a lot of times when old Disney movies were playing, and we saw those. It was kind of treat because we didn't have VCRs or a way to watch them at home. (Some people had cable, and the Disney Channel aired a lot of exclusive content--but we didn't.) I don't remember caring much about whether a movie would be blockbuster, if that was even a thing at the time. I certainly didn't know much about movies that were in production. If we saw something we liked, we talked about it, and then we might see it again. A very interesting thing about old entertainment was that came, and then it went. If you didn't see it, you didn't get to see it. You'd have to find books or other media that had pics & lines from movies. I never saw ET in the theater, and I felt like the only one who didn't see it and so didn't know all the references. But once it was gone, there wasn't a way for me to see it. One of the cool things about that was everyone could find their own favorites. It was a process of discovery. I have a lot of favorite quirky movies that I really enjoy and rewatch that weren't big hits. One that comes to mind is _Toys_ with Robin Williams and Robin Wright. I saw it on a whim, and I loved it. Most everyone else didn't see it, except for a few people, and when we would realize it, we could have actual conversations on a personal level. I think this is the origin of a lot of geek culture. It's certainly how anime was back in the '90s. Conversely, now I feel the industry is deciding what will be our favorites and what will be a hit. Obviously, that doesn't work. But the money is bigger now, and I don't see them scaling back to the way it used to be.
There's been great free articles and books written about this already. I recommend "Generation Y essays" by JD Cowan, Brian Niemeier and David V Stewart. The piece "Cultural Ground Zero"by Stewart is essential reading imo.
Oh I see how it is. My generation has been saying this for over 10 years, NO MORE REMAKES and then we get called racist or sexist BUT Gen Z says the same thing and everything seems to make sense. I guess we just can’t win.
Now, it's just basic business. When The Last Jedi trilogy came out, people were very excited & swamped the theaters. The fact that it wasn't "well received didn't effect their bottom line. Similar story with each franchise remake for the next decade after..until a malaise settled over the audience & we stopped going. In reference to gen z, in particular: 16-30 yr old are always the bread & butter of the movie industry. A 20-something will go to a movie theater many times in one year, often in large groups. A 40-60 yr old will go once or twice, often in small pairings. So, although Gen Z is the smallest demographic, the movie industry has been ignoring them to their peril.
Agreed. I felt the cultural stagnation beginning to set in during the first decade of the 2000s. It's refreshing to hear more people talk about it openly. Addressing the problem head-on is the only way we can hope to break out of this malaise.
and Netflix crap is taking licenses and sticking identity politics into it with a pitchfork of predictable change for the sake of equally unoriginal change. Over and over till they get themselves a red rover.
Gen X wants original movies too. I think if Hollywood agreed Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Aliens and Jurassic Park were finally put to bed, most of us would breathe a sigh of relief.
To be fair, everyone even Gen X is tired of the remakes, we all want original movies and TV shows. I just don’t think hollyweird has any creative left in it.
As a millennial in his early 30s I'm tired of remakes and reboots. I want original content. Not to mention I would love to someday create games on the side as I pursue my IT career.
Early 90’s kid who is a baby in the year Freddy Mercury died. I can appreciate the occasional remake if done right but it seems the 2010’s really turned into the decade of them running out of steam
I'm in my 30's and I've always struggled to find people my age or younger who are fans of Ghostbusters. Now, I've never cared much for the original movie but I've meet other people my age who enjoyed it just fine. However, that's typically as far as their enjoyment goes. They don't care enough to watch sequels or animated spinoff shows. Despite what the legacy media advertises, The only people I've ever met who were legit fans of this franchise are people in their late 40s and 50s. Is their anyone in their 30s or younger out there who is crazy for another Ghostbusters rehash?
This has been going on longer than most people would realize. I was in a production meeting where one of the guys in charge was telling everybody, fans are hungry for something new. The guy above him changed his mind, and all left over creative differences. The show did get made and none of you have ever heard of it. All that was about 14 years ago. It was really sad.
I don't think this is unique amongst the younger generations. GenX, from what I can tell, would like something new as well. Im bored. I don't do nostalgia. I want something new and good. But, I also truly gave up on being mindlessly entertained by movies and tv. So I really hope it all fails.
Just note that 16-20 yr old are the bread & butter of the movie theater--regardless of which decade. A 20-something will go to a movie theater many times in one year, often in large groups. We 40-60 yr old go to a theater, maybe once or twice a year, typically I'm small pairings. So although Gen Z is the smallest demographic, the movie industry needs to stop ignoring them.
Younger customers cannot be relied on to go watch these rehashes because there is zero nostalgia for them. So, for movies like Frozen Empire, they need to make sure the previous movie was good on its own without any nostagia.
Hollywood is double screwed with young audiences, because writers from their generation have consistently demonstrated that they're, um...not up to the challenge, let's say. Unless the challenge is creating one dimensional characters who look like them, and/or inserting strident social messages into everything they write. But where are the Young Turks of the 2020s? Where is the new Quentin Tarantino-type filmmakers who might not have the experience or technical refinement, but who make up for it with sheer energy and a unique style? If David Lynch came along today he'd never get a single one of his scripts green-lighted, but would David Lynch even be David Lynch if he'd been born in the21st century? So not only is Hollywood failing to connect to young audiences with what they've got, there doesn't even appear to be any young filmmakers with the talent amd ambition to create something that would be appealing to younger audiences. God knows, just like everyone else, that requiring 50% of the cast to be members of "historically underrepresented groups" is no more of a selling point for gen z kids than it is for anyone else. And if there's one thing young people today know how to do, it's spot superficial, performative activism that's being used as a !marketing strategy.
Writing is pretty much over. Look at the amazing writers of the past. Hemingway traveled to Spain during the Spanish Civil War and other incredibly dangerous places. Travel was a dangerous thing back then. Now today any zoomer can jump on a plane and be anywhere in 12 hours. I've heard tourists lament how places are getting "samey". These old writers used to drink and smoke tobacco. Tobacco is a natural testosterone booster. These writers would womanize and fight bulls and hunt animals. You know man stuff. The writer's of today just have 0 opportunity to get those life experiences anymore. All they have to write about is what they know. About having trouble opening soylent bottles.
The problem has also been the monopolization of the industry. Before, you used to have many ways to finance a film, with hundreds of production companies, independent and studio owned. Nowadays it all basically boils down to 5 or 6 options who can finance the films and all of them have the same policies and ignorace about film. They have destryoed the artist, and his unique point of view. Hollywood should never be forgiven until it is completely burnt to the ground. Only then we will be able to see the true artists and visionaries rise from the ashes.
@Sottunar And who not only fits the DEI requirements, but have the same politics as well. They will EASILY decide to skip over a person who might fit the DEI requirements, but not share the same political ideas.
"And if there's one thing young people today know how to do, it's spot superficial, performative activism that's being used as a !marketing strategy." Spot on. People growing up today are being advertised to constantly. They develop a keen sense at a young age for when someone is trying to sell them something, whether that be a product or a political message.
I don’t think sequels and nostalgia are the problem. It’s the fact that they disrespect the franchises they’re making. And they always have to push their ideology into everything tainting the movies. With identity politics.
This is a big reason why after Batman '89 you did NOT see a massive deluge of superhero movies, but you DID see many noir, detective style films like Dark Man, Dick Tracy, and The Shadow, because execs at the time grew up reading the OG DC comics.
WTF you are you talking about dude? Batman 89 literally kicked of an avalanche of Superhero/comic books films through the 90's and I should know because lived through that era.
GEN Z, doesn't work, doesn't date, doesn't go to theaters. I've been saying what you've been saying... for years. Hollywood is burning right now and all those studio executives are looking to us and saying "SAVE US" and I'm looking right at them and saying....."NO" THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES. Now the whole industry with their holier than thou woke attitude is sinking. I'm loving every moment of it.
Professionals talk about how they were able to rent apartments 30 years ago going to school waiting tables that now that they are professionals like laywers they would not be able to afford their old apartment. The only way to win at a rigged game is to not play. Gen Z is incredibly wise. Life was always a rat race but there used to be a big piece of cheese called a home and a family at the end of it. That's gone now. My shack has tripled in price in the last 3+ years. I wouldn't be able to afford where I live now in a small town. If I do lose my place I don't know what happen because rents have also tripled. Wages have not tripled in the last 3 years.
@@Drak976 the only way to win is to change the game, and play by your own rules. Lamenting about what you lost isn't going to fix what's wrong. GEN Z isn't the first generation to have these problems, but they are the first to do nothing about them. GEN X (me) had the same kinds of turmoil going on. We had to learn how to adapt, and we still have the same challenges. But GEN Z wasn't taught how to have resilience. Just get trophies for showing up. It's scary and sad at the same time
Central banks like the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England - privately owned cartels that tell 'democratic' governments what to do with their economic policy (and institute manoeuvres to remove politicians that try to break free à la Liz Truss the short-lived UK prime minister) are the ones that mandate stagnatation of our wages. It's a deliberate policy that enriches the super rich oligarch class. Meanwhile hard assets like houses are not counted in their annual 'inflation' indices and so are free to inflate away. Since the 1950s, house prices have risen by many times the median salary of a single breadwinner (from 2-3 times to now like 40 times in big cities like London and New York), which is why even two-breadwinner households now cannot get on the housing ladder. Ask yourself: who's been buying up all the land and houses and farms over the last few years?? You shouldn't be shocked to find it's the same rich and well connected families that control the central banks, that's who - and that's why. Our loss is their gain. All by design.
Your reaction was planned and expected. Congratulations on acting exactly as you were meant to, I guess. Step one of the "Four steps for ideological subversion" (Yuri Bezmenov, 1985) Demoralization - this is a process which can take about 15-30 years to perform (a generation). During this stage, the moral fibre and integrity of the country is put into question, thereby creating doubt in the minds of the people. To do so, manipulation of the media and academia is required to influence young people. *As the younger generation embraces new values, such as Marxism and Leninism, the older generation slowly loses control simply through attrition.* Again, true facts no longer matter during this stage, but rather creating perceptions are of paramount importance. Communism and Religion Abolished - all religious and metaphysics is rejected. Engels and Lenin agreed that religion was a drug or “spiritual booze” and must be combated. To them, atheism put into practice meant a “forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.” Eliminating American exceptionalism, fundamental change of national identity, structural deconstruction of foundational principles, elimination of religion. Embedding a new societal design upon the psyche of generations through ideological academia, peer pressure by elites upon academics and society to convince that prior values were inherently flawed, racist, prejudiced etc. National identity is diluted with aspersions toward historical references. National History is re-written, re-defined, and molded to fit the new intended behavioral model and create the new values. Art is history. That would include decades old IP being "reimagined for a modern audience". www.engadget.com/nielsen-says-viewers-are-mostly-streaming-older-network-shows-132553348.html ....To give an idea of the disparity, The Office was watched on Netflix to the tune of 952 million hours, compared to Netflix’s original series Ozark with 508 million hours of viewing time. Grey’s Anatomy and Criminal Minds also both beat Ozark with 657 and 590 million hours, each. The other top original series programs were Lucifer, The Crown, Tiger King (all on Netflix) and Disney’s The Mandalorian. The figures show that *people are going for familiar, escapist entertainment rather than challenging new shows,* which isn’t shocking considering 2020’s constant deluge of bad news. (From BBC Arts) In Munich, Adolf Hitler staged two exhibitions which defined the way we think about modern art. The Great German Art show displayed the artists he approved of, *the Degenerate Art show displayed the artists he despised.* In these two exhibitions, mounted side by side in adjacent galleries, *the battle lines were drawn between traditionalism and modernism. It’s a battle that’s still being fought today.* *Do you like art that’s realistic and reassuring?* Or do you prefer art that’s experimental or disturbing? Maybe you like a bit of both - in which case, you’re like a lot of people who went to see these shows. The idea was to see the Degenerate Art show, and see how German art had been debased The Nazis wanted people to see both shows, but they didn’t want people to make up their own minds. *The idea was to see the Degenerate Art show, and see how German art had been debased* - and then see the Great German Art show, and see how the Nazis has redeemed it. The Liberal, Marxist "art" is today's debased art. The original shows/movies would be considered superior art, and the Nielson ratings show that is what people want to see. Reverse psychology is a technique involving the assertion of a belief or behavior that is opposite to the one desired, with the expectation that this approach will encourage the subject of the persuasion to do what is actually desired. So the pendulum swings, now violently, now slowly; and every institution not only carries within it the seeds of its own dissolution, but prepares the way for its most hated rival. William Ralph Inge "Democracy and the Future" The Atlantic Monthly (March 1922) The current Liberal institution is being used to assert Marxist ideologies with the expectation people be encouraged to go in the direction of traditionalism and Conservative ideologies. You might want to look up "Bread and circuses" and compare that to modern Hollywood. Liberal corporations are giving superficial appeasement (in the form of entertainment) to a small, vocal minority of people to gain political power. These people being catered to, like a some groups in the Roman empire, no longer cared about Civic Duty (the greater good) or their history and were only concerned about what they could gain at the expense of others. (Sounds a bit familiar, doesn't it?) The bread and circus era ended when the autocratic Emperors took power from the aristocrats behind it all. The US/West is being prepped to accept a new Emperor, or Fuhrer, who will remove the Liberals from positions of power, authority and influence to show the superiority of traditional, Conservative ideologies. That Emperor's name is Donald John Trump, descendant of Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne.
Fun fact: in 1984 Hollywood was competing with foreign films - and that's why it was willing to risk it. Now Hollywood has monopolized the global film industry - so it plays it safe. Hollywood needs competition to make good original films.
Back then it was also competing with the indie/underground filmmakers, as well as the adult industry movies - BOTH of which "captured" market share, in one way or another.
They are not trying to make movies to appeal to everyone but to the woke crowd. But although very vocal, the woke crowd isn't that big, and as audience aren't sufficient to fund expensive blockbusters.
@@AmbiguousMan724 I remember being really excited after Infinity War the end of the marvel series (we don't talk about end game in this household) and I excitedly asked my comic nerd friend what happens next? Basically it's all fighting clouds and infinite copies of that one abuser guy or other goofy stuff and they reboot. It's either that or they continue to get whackier and whackier as we've seen. I still find it funny the keep trying to rehabilitate Loki after making him a clown in Avengers 1. That movie could have just been The Hulk. He literally didn't need anyone else. You're telling me the hulk couldn't jump up to the portal? BS. Noone needed hawk guy. He's just there for toy sales.
You nailed it. Rogue One, Book of Boba Fett, Obi Wan, The Force Awakens, The Mandalorian, Rise of Skywalker, etc. all had prominent desert settings. The "I hate sand" line really resonates...
He literally mentions harry potter in this video. That's not millenials? Maybe stories should end? Star Wars was plenty relevant and popular without new Disney movies or Lucas prequels. It never went away before they killed it. Harry Potter was game of the year last year right? You're blaming the audience. I would have loved a Star Trek movie about you know science and stuff. Instead they give me Picard in a Dune buggy. Or worse action man blowing up Vulcan because teehee mystery box.
@@Drak976 In all fairness, when you have a director who thinks Star Trek is just another type of Star Wars, then Vulcan getting blown up like Alderaan comes as no surprise. Then again, he doesn't really strike me as someone who has ever read anything more philosophical than popular "reading lists" in modern high school. Older sci-fi writers were STEEPED in the writings of vintage sci-fi writers (and incorporated some of those older writers' work into their own), read up on philosophy, psychology, history, science - and all if it showed, even if it wasn't a deep understanding of the topic. Modern-day writers SOMEHOW find the time to tweet out angry tweets at random people and go on interviews congratulating themselves on their angry tweets, when a better usage of their time would be to spend time developing their own self-knowledge and by doing so, become better storytellers in the process.
The problem that Hollywood will run into is that they’re not just risk-averse to original IP; they’re run out of talented writes to begin with. These writers are dependent on existing IP because their original stories would never stand up in their own.
@@JustaUser17247 If that were true they'd have just made smaller projects on their own. There's nothing. Like Never Ending Story. The nothing got the writers. I think people aren't going far enough back. All these remakes and reality tv shows started happening after the 2008ish writers strike. I'm convinced they never came back. Sure they might have "settled" but that doesn't mean they got to write anymore. Everything has been trash since then. They ran out of scripts around 2012 and now it's just been absolute garbage swill. Bilge filth. Storm drain refuse. Caked on muck in a sewer that you have to send Mike Rowe down with a chisel to remove. That's movies now.
@@Drak976 I definitely agree with this! But also, the artists they ran out culd not make smaller projects because the industry became completely centralized and monopolized by only a very very few companies. 5 or 6. So all those people they ran out just had no other options, even if they did want to make smaller projects. Sadly those projects aren't made anymore, except for woke garbage for sundance that nobody, absolutely nobody wants to watch, (aside from the festival goers).
That, but also the writers these days have so many checklists and boxes they have to tick, that it destroys the creativity of writing something that can resonate with people.
You hit the target with this video Andre! Hollywood thinks that just owning an IP of a previously successful film is a license to print money. That all you need to do for a remake/reboot is add younger cast members, update the special effects, sprinkle in some nostalgia bait and Boom! Instant success! Now that formula is failing and Gen Z & Alpha aren't buying it. Nostalgia by definition is for people who lived thru a specific time and the only way these kids would see these remakes is if their Gen X & Millennial parents drag them to it. Most of those upcoming remakes will bomb hard and only after Hollywood loses hundreds of millions more will they wake up and change their ways. Anyone remember that Mean Girls remake that was just released this year? The original is "only" 20 years old and it still bombed. Not to mention how difficult it is to pry kids away from video games and Tic Tok today, good luck with that Hollywood.
not just gen Z or millennials; everyone is tired of sequels and reboots. Do majors realize that Ghostbusters, Terminator, etc, are now more than 40? How's possible to have a 'new' Ghostbusters with the OLD crew? The nostalgia can work, maybe, once, on the old viewers, but how many Ghostbusters a man, or a woman, can watch in their life? And why anyone born after 1990 should watch it? I've seen the first and second Indiana Jones at cinema, the last two of them on streaming, and just because I had a subscription. But I went to cinema to watch Dune and Oppenheimer. Majors have to risk for something new, because the old IP, included Star Wars, are the past
If they want to build a new audience with the same kind of interest as the first Ghostbusters then they need to make a film as good as the original Ghostbusters. The issue is not if it's a remake or not, it's about quality and audience interest; no one asked for a Ghostbusters remake without top tier writing and comedy. Dune is a remake yet look how well received that's been and how well it's done financially, Oppenheimer is a biopic yet hand in hand with Barbie it did incredibly well because the audience was given something it wanted. The audience is simply sick and tired of content sludge from Hollywood, they either fix that or they'll lose even more of their audience.
Only kinda agree. Take the latest Mission Impossible. it was a well done, entertaining movie. But Mario Brother did substantially better in the theater. Mission Impossible appealed to 40-60 yr old audience. Mario Brothers appealed to young adults w/ or without kids. I have a 19 yr old son. He won't spend his money on a franchise that started before he was born. Part of this is the extreme disappointed he experienced in theaters through his high school years.
I have long abandoned Hollywood's recycled propaganda for alternate forms of entertainment. I have loved Japanese Anime for years now and while it has some MAJOR problems (their animators are literally being worked to death for wages a SLAVE would balk at). The storytelling is miles above what Hollywood has done for the last 20 years.
I'm a 37/38 year old Millennial and I don't mind continuations...as long as they're done right. It always seems like writers miss the mark and that we as the audience members could write better scripts and know what to stay away from or what boundaries to not cross with established "moods" of previous movies. The thing that made Ghostbusters so funny was the subtle humor and observational commentary on adulthood and the red tape we encounter in life. Later on, Ghostbusters 2 perfectly straddled the line between this and also grabbing the interest of children for expansive marketing, but it did it in a well-blended way. The new movies fail to do this as consistently. I will say this, I like that the new movies have a respect for the old movies, even if it is executed in a misguided way. That alone allows me to feel okay about them compared to 2016's insult-fest to fans, its reverse-sexism and crappy comedy, but the main problem here even if you're going to modernize the comedy (which I'm okay with) is the pacing and editing. It's just not organized or cut correctly at all. Again, nothing in the story "ruins" Ghostbusters lore for me or anything, unlike the Star Wars sequels, it's just that the GB sequels are underwhelming and a bit disappointing, but they have some re-watch value if you want to enjoy something light-hearted that you don't take as seriously as the masterpieces of the past.
Every generation wants an original movie or franchise. When I was growing up, we all eagerly awaited the next Star Wars movie. A following generation eagerly awaited the next Lord of the Rings movie and then Harry Potter. Each generation want its unique childhood memory movies.
I am 44. I am not into what gets rehashed today. Good new shows are good. Bad rehashes are still bad. I guess younger people would also watch continuations if they are done well. Which... they are not. Nowadays I mostly watch korean shows and anime. They are fresh, well made with universal values.
This is so intelligent. The comparing of the dates. Very communicative. [moments later] Shortly after I wrote the foregoing, I heard obscenity, thus mingling inferiority with intelligence. Is that truly the way to reach a broader audience: inferiority + intelligence?
Time is a fickle thing. Consider this: Every teenager who watched Avengers: Endgame in theaters is now an adult. Most teenagers today, in the spring of 2024, have only experienced the post-Endgame Marvel era.
There are still some that experienced it later on but not at the time. Comparing it to other well known franchises released before the century it doesn't age well
Mom I want a hoverboard from back to the future! Mom: We have one at home One at home: stupid balance board with wheels sigh. This is the worst timeline. Somewhere out there are self drying jackets and they also promised me shoes that pumped themself I think nike tried and failed at that.
Were all over due for some originality. Hollywood now seems to be more interested in making DEI lectures wrapped in a beloved theme from decades past, rather than entertainment or a bit of escapism.
The problem to my mind is not that remakes are being made; but the fact the industry is being over satuarated with remakes and reboots that change the original movies drastically for the most part in themes to fit their agenda. In the words of Aughra from my favorite movie as a kid Dark Crystal, "Big Change. Sometimes Good. Sometimes Bad." I think Hollywood needs to make more movies out of novels, maybe some classic novels of literature as well as Charles Dickens (without it being a christmas carol...let's get some different Dicken's books on the big screen) or even some works from newer authors.
Something contempory please. Someone earlier in the comments was wanting Narnia and I was like they already did that and it was so booooooorrriiiiiiiiiing. Right now I'm reading that one over rated guys "short" story The Forbidden planet and it's just dragging on and on forever. Meanwhile something actually enjoyable I can zip through volumes of it in days. Have you heard of the way over used genre isekais? Well there's a western version of that "lit rpg" and I think you could really make some of those books into movies I don't want to name names after already dmping on everyone's precious shiny sacred goats. tl;dr I wish we had more Dark Crystal and less "classic" scifi.
Batman and Spider-Man date to 1939 and 1962, respectively. The kids still seem interested. There are even older works of art that inspire perennial remakes and adaptations, such as Jane Austen’s novels, although they typically don’t appeal to young people.
That's a worry for Hollywood. It gave up originality a long time ago. Not sure what they can do because it's not as though their hacks are suddenly going to be creative after decades of refining their formulas.
And that’s the problem when you have directors and producers who want to reimagine certain stories because they think they can do it better. I’m talking like JJ Abrams, Alex Kurtzman, Kevin fige people of that discussed. They don’t just want to play in someone else’s sandbox. They want to disrupt the sandbox because they think that they can do a better job. That’s why we have things like the cursed JJ Abrams, Star Trek movies Abrams Star Wars movie makes me sick to think about it, Kevin Feige basically destroying marvel and making it in his own sick twisted image, and so on and so forth like these people think to think they can do better when they can’t. They can’t improve on perfection.
Loved the example with "Neverending Story" and "National Velvet". Even people in their 40s and 50s like me are tired of this endless rehashes. We want original NEW stuff, Hollywood. You don't have to reinvent the wheel, some storylines will always be timeless, just try and don't be so lazy and safe.
As a Gen X, if today's Hollywood tries to remake anything I grew up with, I will boycott it. I am tired of my childhood being destroyed. From Star Trek, Star Wars, Scooby Doo. WITHOUT OUT RESPECT I REJECT.........
I think I will still to enjoying the first two movies and the spiritual 3 film/video game from several years ago. I didn't mind the previous Ghostbusters film, it was a nice way to say goodbye to Harold Ramis, but I really don't feel a need for more Ghostbusters films.
Tim Pool argues that this is going to happen to pop culture more and more -- young people of this generation just don't have the spending money of previous generations. (Probably because their parents are divorced, which means less money can be spent on kids.) But, probably also because the jobs typically taken by young people are being taken by people here illegally these days.
Good for the kids. They need to keep demanding their own properties. While I would argue that The Hunger Games that released in 2012 was the last time the kids got to have something of their own (Twiilight happened before that, and I would also say qualified). I do think 5 Nights at Freddy's does qualify for part of the population here. But that's it. I think that's all they've got that's new and original and popular. And I feel bad for them. They deserve to have stuff that feels special for them. In regards to remaking National Velvet, yes, I had heard of it when I was a little girl. My grandmother mentioned it. I think she was disappointed I wasn't more interested in horse stories (I was not a horse girl,, though I know a lot of little girls go through a period like that). But even if I HAD been, we would have gone out to watch the original. Because when I was a little girl, hat's when VCRs came into existence, and we could just rent videos from Blockbuster or even our local library. There was no need to go make a new version of something that was good the first time around. I mean, remaking stuff is part of WHY Ghostbusters 2016 failed. There are a lot of problems with that film, don't get me wrong. But no one wanted a remake in the first place. the original was just fine the way it was. I think Hollywood is failing to understand franchises. Let's use Star Wars as an example. I was not born with Star Was original came out. The movie was not made for me. But my dad loved it. It took me some time, personally, to come to appreciate it. One of my younger sisters was more on board with it than I was, but slowly Star Wars became a thing we did as a family of scifi/fantasy geeks. The reason I like Star Wars, specifically, is because my dad liked Star Wars. He passed on that liking and enjoyment to us. My family went to see the more recent Star Wars films together, even with husbands and kids and things. And they made us stop liking Star Wars. We stopped going to the films with Han Solo. That's really the only way I can put it. My sister who even did cosplay as Leia is no longer following Star Wars. And she and her husband aren't showing the kids Star Wars and sharing their love for it because it's kind of spoiled for them. It's no longer interesting. And so they're not producing the next generation of fans that would keep the franchise going. Are there always going to be remakes and adaptations? Yes. There's quite a lot of us who like Narnia, for example. We'd really like it if someone could finally do a good adaptation of the books and finish out the series. Narnia is a series from the 1950s, but it's a classic, and one that families pass on generationally to their children. So are things like Anne of Green Gables, Laura Ingells Wilder, the Wizard of Oz, Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys,, and so on. Harry Potter is likely to end up in that group as well, though those other franchises I just listed are over 100 years old now, and Potter is only pushing 30. Love of these kinds of series have been passed on for four or five generations now. But not everything is that good. And of the things that are still good, we don't always need a remake. The Neverending Story is a product of its time. It doesn't need to be remade. And dear God, what are they going to do about Artax? Because I don't think they're going to do that scene justice. Because today they sanitize and bowdlerize everything like the Victorians did. They can't handle the truth. ;) Or at least they think the kids can't handle things like Bambi's mother or survivors of Auschwitz or other things. that were in my kids movies. and in books from earlier times. The people behind all the greenlights are too scared to do new things. So instead they're strangling the life out of what they've got. So goof for the kids. I hope they do get something new and special that's just theirs. And good for the rest of us if they just stop ruining all the old properties that they don't understand in the first place.
I'm a dad. Seeing all my old stuff "revived" isn't even cool. It's very much Pet-Semetary. What went into the ground is not what came back out. "Sometimes, dead's better"
Disney literally said it was Russian bots that didn't like Star Wars and this was way before the current war thing. I'm surprised they haven't made the storm troopers Russians yet. Prepare for another 20 years of every single villain having vaguely eastern european look/sound. Middle easterners looks like you're off the list sorry no acting jobs for you as villains now.
Wow! Who would’ve thought Gen Z and Millennials would have no interest watching reboots of movies and shows featuring characters that only Boomers and Gen X have a nostalgic interest in? Who would’ve thought? Absolutely everyone with a functioning brain.
Born in the 80's and of course I love many movies of that era (1980 - 2000) but even I want more original stuff! Yeah give me the occasional remake but don't rely almost exclusively on them.
It's so bizarre. Look at the cultural output of previous generations. We get films like Casablanca, Citizen Kane, 2001, Apocalypse Now, and even with Gen X directors, we got some great "super hero" films, like Nolan's Batman and Favreau's Ironman. Now? Remake everything that came before and put a chick in it and make it lame and gay. Don't create any more. Just destroy.
@@Drixenol86 But they also assume the audience has no imagination as well, and needs a character with their skin tone to understand the story. "Ah! That's the one that represents me!"
@@funkydiscogod I remember me and my friends wanted to like Blade but then we remembered he was black. Oh wait that never bothered us even though we were all white kids. Wait a minute this must be one of those mandela timeline things I forget the first black super hero movie was Black Panther.
People have have selective memory, easy to pick the great movies of the past like Casablanca, but what about the other movies that came out in 1942, like "To the Shores of Tripoli" or The Tarzan rehashes that came out that same year or even the directors putting their own political agenda into movies with their opinion of the War doing those times. Every period of movie history have these tag lines, it's nothing new and will keep occurring, why because people are people. It's just the hypocrisy that is annoying, only difference now is that there are just more people have access to media than ever before. It's to the point everyone cry woke for no reason at all, like this is new. In the past, this was a non issue; now everybody is soft. Before if a black character was just placed in a all white cast, he was just a "Token"... now its woke... Growing up we had Conan the barbarian, but if Red Sonya came out today that would be woke. We had He-Man as a kid, guess what would be considered woke...She-Ra. Last year, out of the 100 top movies only about 30 of them had a women lead and only 1 had a black female. Why are people crying like white male actors are dying out nothing changed they make 70% of the Hollywood movies.
May I point out they did it back then too. 1978's Intentional Velvet, a continuation of the older classic. My now 80 year old mother loved it! She watched it every time it aired on network TV in the 80s.
When I heard about wtc, I rejoiced because I thought that nyc was bein destroyed. I was disappointed when I found out that it was a deliberate controlled demolition which was one of 3 messages sent to world freemasonry: destruction of twin pillars Jachin and Boaz, destruction of Masonic pentagonal symbol, and upside down masonic goat in hands of W Bush. All of the above betokened a shifting in power and was symbolic. Besides the fact that the office of the pentagon that was stricken by a missile, not a plane, was the office that held the records of the billions of dollars misappropriation, but that was a secondary benefit after the symbolic intent.
What happens when you run off all of the creative people and replace them with corporate executives and political activists? You get 7000 remakes with no creative ideas filled with propaganda.
@hopejordan2997 Plus the Real I mean the O.G. Ghostbusters are up there in age so I mean we already lost Harold Ramis so how many more times can they bring back the O.G. cast? They need to make the next film about the new team or better twenty somethings that can move the franchise forward backed by good writers who care and know what they are doing!! Before you know it they will reboot the 1984 original film LOL!?👻🚫🎥🎬
Don't blame the execs because they are execs. We execs are needed. The problem is the untalented people calling themselves creatives that the woke untalented executives hire. DEI and woke is the problem not corporate structures
@@SuperMarioBrosIII They already tried a reboot in 2016 with a younger all female cast.
It didn't go well.
@@graveyardshift6691 I know I meant with an all male cast or even a live action Real Ghostbusters. And finally bringing characters like Sam Hain, The Boogie Man and The Sand Man to the big screen!! Bring back Real Ghostbusters writer J. Michael Straczynski. Jason Reitman and Dan Aykroyd as producers. And Jason from Ghostbusters news plus Al Smith also on RUclips for their ideas and input! And I think we can get a quality Ghostbusters product for once! No more nostalgia berries or wokeness just focus on the comedy, heart and action that made the first Ghostbusters movies a success! It can be done! 👻🚫♥🙏
One of the underrated lines in South Park’s Panderverse is the Disney board members bewilderment that remaking the same old stories over and over again isn’t working anymore.
Of course we don't want remakes, reboots, and sequels; Hollywood ruins them all!
And at this point, we’re wise to the fact that they will ruin everything eventually.
Amen. If they weren't creatively bankrupt and all share a single brain cell, their original content wouldn't suck balls with the constant agenda pushing.
Times we live in now and cuz of Snowflakes is why a lot of stuff made now sucks too what was fun and entertaining back then or what was hilarious back then is now deemed inappropriete today
Amen. If they weren't creatively bankrupt and everyone shared a single brain cell, their original content wouldn't suck so bad, and their constant agenda pushing doesn't help either.
Amen. If they weren't creatively bankrupt and everyone shared a single brain cell, their original content wouldn't suck so bad, and their constant agenda pushing doesn't help either.
I feel bad for these generations. Imagine someone asking you "Hey, what did you grow up with?" and they say "The same stuff as my parents, but worst!"
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Millenials feel betrayed by the awful, politicized remakes and zoomers don't care and also realize how bad this remakes are anyway.
Yup Millennials felt hurt because they grew up with the originals like many generations before them and Gen Z just don't give a shit because we didn't grow up with them
You think you're betrayed? I'm 64, I know the originals, I'm down right offended.
@@AISlopTheatre They already are making remakes of 2000's movies. Mean Girls is being re-released this year and it will be awful as everything coming out of Hollywood right now.
@@TheJan5Don't forget Harry Potter I'm late 2000 born but even that pisses me off and yes I have also read the books and seen all the movies
Millennials are tired of legacy sequels. Gen Z has no nostalgia for franchises older than the 2000s. Make. New. Movies.
Easier said than done.
They don’t care about anything that isn’t trending on tik tok.
Gen Z has no nostalgia for legacy franchises, and progressive ideology wipes those franchises clean of anything that older generations loved about them, and fills them with woke politics.
Movies made for no one.
Congrats, Hollywood. You played yourself.
And leave out the woke lgbt shit
They can't. Hollywood is completely creatively bankrupt on new ideas. Not helped that they also no longer hire people who could actually bring forward some fresh creative stuff.
My teenage son refused to watch this with me. He said. " I only liked the first one. They're not going to make a better film than that so why bother." Made me proud, and a bit sad too. Kids deserve to have their own thing to get excited about.
instead should watch real ghost busters and exterme was way better continuation and conclusion there than what got in the movies, and ghost busters 2009 video game.
Kids have tons of stuff. You and me had to wait for summer for something good to come out. Now they just have to log in and there's going to be 1,000 new things every day + they can watch anything we used to watch without having to take a trip to blockbuster. People pretend they're nostalgic for blockbuster but forget having to bring the dang movies back. It was a trap because now you're back at blockbuster might as well rent something new. Only there's only 200 unique movies in the store and many movies have 30+ copies of the same movie nobody wants. I sure hope you want to watch Dirty Dancing for the 12th time because everything else is rented out.
"Kids deserve to have their own thing to get excited about." Absolutely. But the same ones in charge of Hollywood wish that to be draaaag queen story hour 🤣 I think anyone paying attention is now red-pilled on demented crap such as that, at least they should be.
Their own things? You mean your 34+ Trillion in Debt! We are going to have nothing, you Ruined It!
as 40 year old who grew up with the original let us have this and let the kids have other things I personally love Frozen empire
So basically, once the older generations die off, Hollywood will go with them given all they can do is milk nostalgia nowadays!
Now I watch movies from India, China, Japan, Korea. My Hollywood is asian. And I rewatch old series, now I'm at Babylone 5, Battlestar Galactica, and attempting Buffy (on the fence about Buffy will see)
They even fail at this as they can't help but "deconstruct" the characters and things that the fans liked.
Hollywood love to milk everything dry.
No, because it isn't the generation that is causing the problem, it's an industry that is afraid of itself.
I don't have any nostalgia left. Star Wars was big for me as a kid. And I have no interest in the franchise whatsoever anymore. So no money from me.
We're reject mediocrity and bad writing, not rehashes
The fast and the furious being the exception I assume?
Or anything with the Rock in it. I could give more examples but who's got the time?
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No no, those are shit writing too. They are carried HARD by the cast.
The success of the John Wick franchise proves otherwise.
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access They are still rubbish and yet still successful was my point lol.
People depress me in many ways, one example being whom they choose to elevate onto a pedestal.
A rehash guarantees both. If they had good writing and weren't mediocre they'd have an original idea. What we get is Frozen + Kill Bill in space. MEMBER KILL BILL? That's called mediocrity. You try and think of an idea and you just remember another movie you saw. That's what a rehash IS. By definition.
Even the generation that grew up with franchises like Ghostbusters are sick of remakes and the rehashing of classic movies because of the need to updating it for modern audiences, such as changing it for the sake of change. Ghostbusters 2016 and the Willow series on D+ should have been a clear sign that they can’t take the properties that people love and remake them for the woke people that won’t really care. As long as Hollywood fails to understand this, the remakes will always fail. Both the older generation and the younger generations will just not be interested.
modern audience, you mean Larry Fink. They update every thing for that single boomer. Modern audience 🤣🤣
@@Parlimant_Strifey they updated them for the woke generation.
@@PrenceBlackrock is forcing behaviors, hence Larry Fink. They used to make new things for generations though...now they just do it to appease Blackrock's ESG score which forces in that DEI...whilst they act like hypocrites themselves. All goes back to Larry, the modern audience...a boomer in reality.
@Parlimant_Strifey what? Not boomers bro.. the woke are younger
Bill and Ted 3 and Star Wars sequel trilogy failed miserably too as they bastardized bill and Ted and Luke
The main problem is that the remakes being done today do not add anything but pretty pictures. Unlike Frozen Empire, most of the revisited IP is a cloned copy of what has come before, instead of adding anything new, and usually includes changes that is for the "Modern Audience." The best example of this goes right along with the current subject, Ghostbusters 2016. It genderswitched the characters, was written on the fly (aka Adlibed) and had a post credit scene promising a further retelling of the original movie. This did not go well in the Box Office, and Sony ended up with the sequels that we have now, ignoring the rehash that bombed in the theatres.
Or you could go the option of completely identical remake like Cabin Fever and that was somehow worse. It's line for line identical but worse.
"Unlike Frozen Empire, most of the revisited IP is a cloned copy of what has come before, instead of adding anything new," Worth mentioning the new Dune films are technically reboots- but no one has described them as such because they are of such high quality.
@@archvaldor Probably because the last Dune film is so old that most haven't seen it. Grantred it's 80s but Dune wasn't really as Big anyways so its a Mostly new Experience.
And good Cinema work contributed as well
they add dei
And to be fair Gen X and Older Millennials were screaming “Please, don’t remake this!!”
However, the bread & butter of the movie industry is still 16-30 yr olds. Although Gen Z is the smallest demographic, a 20-something is likely to go to a movie, in theater, 5 times a year. A 40 or 50 yr old may go once a year.
Exactly!!!
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IMHO you are wrong. That's for the boomers. At least half of the Xs liked to go to the cinema nearly once a week.
Now I seldom go because the movies (mostly) suck.
At least the last two Ghostbusters movies don't have the temerity to call themselves simply "Ghostbusters"- the way the 2016 movie did- as if they're going to replace the original.
I'm glad Bob Gale And Robert Zemeckis have clauses in their contracts for Back To The Future that no remakes will ever be made without their or their estates say so and they have made it very clear they REFUSE anything about BTTF4
It's the Stranger Things affect. That show made 80's pop culture trendy for a hot minute so Hollywood did what they always do with their single shared brain.
I’m of the older generation and I want new things. It’s not just the current generations.
Noooo! Leave Escape from New York alone! They can’t even make that now! They can’t do the Duke of New York!
The prequel to Escape is playing out in real life
@jaybor1683 Much more than you think. Eric Adams is the Duke of New York.
They did. It was called Escape from LA and it was trash.
@@jaybor1683 Took the words right outta my mouth! At this point all they need is the wall, mine the bridges, and there you go. Sure they're missing the world trade towers, but nobody in 1981 could predict they wouldn't be there.
Omg! Yes! That was my immediate reaction!
Young generations are told all the time about how those "old" movies were awesome,when the remake is filled to the brim with modern day crap it gets rejected by both,old and new generations.
Not hard to realize.
Gen X is just as sick of it. It has been a lot of our generations movies being turned to turds.
I think its just everyone is getting sick of this.
It’s not just Gen-Z and Millennials.
I’m Gen-X, and I’ve been tired of sequels, remakes, reimaginings, and rehashes for at least the past 30 years.
You are a Near Boomer, please Leave, and pay your 34 Trillion in Debt on the Way Out!
But the bread & butter of the movie industry is always 16-30 yr old. Although Gen Z is the smallest demographic, a 20-something is likely to go to a movie, in theater, 5 times a year or more. And they are likely to go in a large group. Whereas, a 40-60 yr old will go maybe 1 or 2 times. And we don't collect large quantities to see the movie. We go in small groups.
@@kathyp1563 I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Gen Z doesn't care about franchises from prior to 2000, so remakes aren't going to capture the 16-30 demo.
What weird logic: "we're desperate to reach young audiences so lets sell them movies that we the producers loved 20 years before that target audience was born."
They're all Principal Skinner: "Am I out of touch? No it's the children who are wrong".
Movies back then had adults themes unlike now.
Hollywood has gotten way too reliant on the built-in fan bases they keep insulting.
@@theobnoxiousguy3425Also movies now have plenty of adult themes, but barely any mature themes.
It's strange how people who were kids when they fell in love with Ghostbusters, where the main characters were adults in their 30s, somehow think that adding kids to it will kids like it. In fact, almost all of the memorable and beloved franchises from that time period had adults as main characters, yet since the mid 90s there's been a push to have kids as the main characters because that's producers have convinced themselves that's the only way kids will like them.
Yup. Somehow kids did not care even if every movie did not have their personal "representation" on the screen.
I read somewhere that English departments in colleges had removed old classic literature from their required reading. Logic was it was too difficult. But they require a future writer to THINK about human nature & how we are the same regardless of century, culture, or race.
The problem with much of today's writing is we don't see normal people in abnormal circumstances on the screen.
The original Ghostbusters made a point that the proton packs were cumbersome for adult men to carry up a flight of stairs, and now kids are running around with them on their backs. The original Ghostbusters took its own premise seriously, and its world was lived-in and thought-out-- things that Hollywood has forgotten how to do.
I think franchise movies can be successful if they're done in a original manner. Godzilla Minus One was a perfect example of that and it wasn't even made by Hollywood. If a Godzilla movie which is around 70 years old can make a splash at the box office, then the property is doing something right.
Also shame about Transformers though. Competition really ran that one to the ground
Yep. Hopefully, Transformers One gets a better release window.
and godzilla minus one cost only 15 million to make. hollywood is lost and confused. they replaced capable people with diversity hires and this is what you get.... crap...
All the Transformers movies sucked
Exactly! Godzilla Minus One was so good I never have to watch another kaiju movie ever again, because that movie was so perfect.
I appreciate how you break down the mindset of producers here. It's understandable, which at least explains the decisions. You don't let them off the hook, but you do present their case. Thank you.
There's always two sides to every story.
@@MidnightsEdge Be careful ME saying that is bad now!
@@Drak976 "Now" can get off my lawn.
The younger generation has no connection to older franchises. Hollywood can’t keep going back to what worked in the past and hope it’s going to work in the future. It won’t. Look at Star Wars and Indiana Jones, they went to the past and tried to update those franchises hoping that there was enough nostalgia and enough change that they would be popular. New audiences didn’t care about some 50 year old set of movies and the older generation didn’t like it that they changed what they loved into something unrecognizable to what they grew up with.
Those franchises were also hurt by baby boomers who attached political messaging where it wasn’t wanted or needed.
@@uss_cushing they were hurt by the ones that found them problematic, I.E. the woke crowd. The generation the grew up with them didn’t want them to change.
@@Prence Again the boomers are the ones in charge ultimately. They hired the DEI clowns who came in and gave them extremely bad advice. And boomers like Kathleen Kennedy will not fall on their sword to correct the situation. Now with multiple franchises in complete apathy from the audience Hollywood is growing more concerned about losing money they cannot afford lose anymore.
@@Prence There were no wokies in the 1990s but I still didn't need to hear that Bush was bad in my soi wars prequels. Yeah I get it. The President is an uber powerful sithlord who can shoot awesome lightning out of his hands. And only a based black man can save us. Th-thanks Lucas?
@@Drak976 I wasn’t talking about the 90s generation. I’m talking about the recent generations, you know the “victim” generation.
The problem is we can't accept that things die.... until we do.
In between times we seek eternal life regardless of struggling to move forward and change.
Anything worthwhile is found in the past it seems.
Wasn't that a lesson that The Neverending Story tried to teach its' reader?
@@kennyholmes5196 I don't know, I'll take your word for that. However, Neverending story seems a contradiction.
@@Kowalski_5 Here's the wikipedia page on the book. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Neverending_Story
Like Star Wars hahaha When George made Ep1-2-3 the amount of shT he got on those movies is exactly what Disney is getting from Ep-7-8-9. 🤣 oh and since the sequel trilogy got made now EP-1-2-3 is now beloved lol
I am a 58 yo retired media exec and I TOTALLY agree! I've been saying this for 20 years! That was about the time they started making live action films out of material like "Scooby-Doo." It did well at the BoxO, so what did they do? Made another, this time "Josie & the Pussycats," yet another Saturday morning cartoon from when I WAS A KID, in the '70's and I didn't want to watch them then either! Why would I or any other younger person want that rehashed old stuff you could get on video!? "Come up with something original!" I screamed. But, no. The box office $'s kept rolling in and this crap kept getting green lighted. Don't be surprised if Hollywood doesn't get the memo until we see a "live action" CGI epic about Barney the Dinosaur! It's been 20 years and counting....ugh! I need a nap : D!
I'm not tired of the remakes, I'm tired of Hollywood. Those guys that run everything there are too cowardly to make anything new because they're afraid of their movies bombing but with their current output, they're gonna lose money regardless...
Not just Millies or Z's. I'm a Boomer and I feel the same way. Sick of lack of Hollywood creativity and Hollywood PC BS.
Hey Boomer! Pay Your 34+ Trillion in Debt Scumbag!
Riding on nostalgia will generally only appeal to a single generation. Nowhere near enough to generate the revenue expected.
I disagree: it can work across multiple generations. The kids who enjoyed Mario growing up would be in their 40s now, with kids of their own. The Mario movie was a success because parents saw it with their kids, and that movie wasn't complete garbage.
@@funkydiscogod I think you just have low expectations. You've been fed toilet chow for so long that someone hands you spoiled food and you think its delicious. Wing Commander was a far better movie but it was panned in it's time because it was up against even better movies. Mario had no competition in sight so it's easy to pretend it was good.
@@Drak976Exactly I'm sick of everyone acting like it's soooo good when it's mid at best same with most movies from this decade and the latter part of last decade as that's when people started getting tired of these sequels nonsense
@@Drak976you are right about Mario having no competition at the box office, because at the time I checked the box office results daily and Mario was winning by a landslide! By 50 million.
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We've been screaming this for decades. I don't expect anyone but an indi producer to hear it.
When I was a kid, going to the theater was just watching a fun show for a couple hours, not that different than watching what was on TV.
As far as I remember, there were a lot of times when old Disney movies were playing, and we saw those. It was kind of treat because we didn't have VCRs or a way to watch them at home. (Some people had cable, and the Disney Channel aired a lot of exclusive content--but we didn't.)
I don't remember caring much about whether a movie would be blockbuster, if that was even a thing at the time. I certainly didn't know much about movies that were in production. If we saw something we liked, we talked about it, and then we might see it again. A very interesting thing about old entertainment was that came, and then it went. If you didn't see it, you didn't get to see it. You'd have to find books or other media that had pics & lines from movies. I never saw ET in the theater, and I felt like the only one who didn't see it and so didn't know all the references. But once it was gone, there wasn't a way for me to see it.
One of the cool things about that was everyone could find their own favorites. It was a process of discovery. I have a lot of favorite quirky movies that I really enjoy and rewatch that weren't big hits. One that comes to mind is _Toys_ with Robin Williams and Robin Wright. I saw it on a whim, and I loved it. Most everyone else didn't see it, except for a few people, and when we would realize it, we could have actual conversations on a personal level. I think this is the origin of a lot of geek culture. It's certainly how anime was back in the '90s.
Conversely, now I feel the industry is deciding what will be our favorites and what will be a hit. Obviously, that doesn't work. But the money is bigger now, and I don't see them scaling back to the way it used to be.
I think an editorial on cultural stagnation would be fascinating...
"We can only conceive so much."
Will that do?
There's been great free articles and books written about this already. I recommend "Generation Y essays" by JD Cowan, Brian Niemeier and David V Stewart. The piece "Cultural Ground Zero"by Stewart is essential reading imo.
@@Judasdfg
Thanks.
Added to my "To Read" list.
Meanwhile my kids are watching original ghost busters and ground hogs day on repeat.
Well ground hogs day is kinda on repeat BY DEFAULT 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gohs that movie is fantastic. Remember when Bill Murray was young.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2 Remember when Bill Murray even halfway cared.
@@tubetorpedo 🤣 Favorite role was in Zombie Land.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2
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Oh I see how it is. My generation has been saying this for over 10 years, NO MORE REMAKES and then we get called racist or sexist BUT Gen Z says the same thing and everything seems to make sense.
I guess we just can’t win.
Okay Boomer! Here's an Idea, Pay your 34+ Trillion in Debt, you Free Loader! You Free Loaded off my Future Scumbag!
Now, it's just basic business.
When The Last Jedi trilogy came out, people were very excited & swamped the theaters. The fact that it wasn't "well received didn't effect their bottom line. Similar story with each franchise remake for the next decade after..until a malaise settled over the audience & we stopped going.
In reference to gen z, in particular: 16-30 yr old are always the bread & butter of the movie industry. A 20-something will go to a movie theater many times in one year, often in large groups. A 40-60 yr old will go once or twice, often in small pairings. So, although Gen Z is the smallest demographic, the movie industry has been ignoring them to their peril.
All we want is goodwriting
Not a rehash with modern problems
Hell, I'm a 42 year old dude. I'M craving new ideas and IPs!
Same. I got sick of all these reboots 20 years ago when it was clear that the original was better than the remake 100% of the time.
good. This was long overdue. I think a video on cultural stagnation would be fantastic.
I agree.
Agreed. I felt the cultural stagnation beginning to set in during the first decade of the 2000s. It's refreshing to hear more people talk about it openly. Addressing the problem head-on is the only way we can hope to break out of this malaise.
The culture is still moving, it's just gone back underground.
I'm scared of "new content". To me that means Netflix crap.
At least they’d be trying to stand on their own work instead of expecting views on franchise name alone.
and Netflix crap is taking licenses and sticking identity politics into it with a pitchfork of predictable change for the sake of equally unoriginal change. Over and over till they get themselves a red rover.
I have Star Wars PTSD 🤣🤣🤣 I'm afraid a strong, independent, bold, gender swapped, trans, Marie Sue is hiding under my bed.
@@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2right next to Kirk Cameron’s crockaduck banana
I think both streaming and hollywood productions have disposable shT produced
I don’t trust script writers anymore. Their idea of a good story is a far cry from mine. This is happening in videogames also. I’m done.
Gen X wants original movies too. I think if Hollywood agreed Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Aliens and Jurassic Park were finally put to bed, most of us would breathe a sigh of relief.
To be fair, everyone even Gen X is tired of the remakes, we all want original movies and TV shows. I just don’t think hollyweird has any creative left in it.
As a millennial in his early 30s I'm tired of remakes and reboots. I want original content. Not to mention I would love to someday create games on the side as I pursue my IT career.
Early 90’s kid who is a baby in the year Freddy Mercury died.
I can appreciate the occasional remake if done right but it seems the 2010’s really turned into the decade of them running out of steam
Gen z here it would be a nice change of pace which will almost never happen
I'm in my 30's and I've always struggled to find people my age or younger who are fans of Ghostbusters. Now, I've never cared much for the original movie but I've meet other people my age who enjoyed it just fine. However, that's typically as far as their enjoyment goes. They don't care enough to watch sequels or animated spinoff shows. Despite what the legacy media advertises, The only people I've ever met who were legit fans of this franchise are people in their late 40s and 50s. Is their anyone in their 30s or younger out there who is crazy for another Ghostbusters rehash?
Probably not, thanks to how Hollywood made that Box Office B0mB in 2016 with their "change just the genders, we're sure it'll be fine!" "remake".
This has been going on longer than most people would realize. I was in a production meeting where one of the guys in charge was telling everybody, fans are hungry for something new. The guy above him changed his mind, and all left over creative differences. The show did get made and none of you have ever heard of it. All that was about 14 years ago. It was really sad.
Gray's Anatomy?
I don't think this is unique amongst the younger generations. GenX, from what I can tell, would like something new as well. Im bored. I don't do nostalgia. I want something new and good. But, I also truly gave up on being mindlessly entertained by movies and tv. So I really hope it all fails.
Stuff it you near Boomer Slime!
Just note that 16-20 yr old are the bread & butter of the movie theater--regardless of which decade. A 20-something will go to a movie theater many times in one year, often in large groups. We 40-60 yr old go to a theater, maybe once or twice a year, typically I'm small pairings.
So although Gen Z is the smallest demographic, the movie industry needs to stop ignoring them.
Younger customers cannot be relied on to go watch these rehashes because there is zero nostalgia for them. So, for movies like Frozen Empire, they need to make sure the previous movie was good on its own without any nostagia.
Yeah, tricky business given how Gen Xers are the only ones who have passion for Ghostbusters.
Hollywood is double screwed with young audiences, because writers from their generation have consistently demonstrated that they're, um...not up to the challenge, let's say. Unless the challenge is creating one dimensional characters who look like them, and/or inserting strident social messages into everything they write. But where are the Young Turks of the 2020s? Where is the new Quentin Tarantino-type filmmakers who might not have the experience or technical refinement, but who make up for it with sheer energy and a unique style? If David Lynch came along today he'd never get a single one of his scripts green-lighted, but would David Lynch even be David Lynch if he'd been born in the21st century? So not only is Hollywood failing to connect to young audiences with what they've got, there doesn't even appear to be any young filmmakers with the talent amd ambition to create something that would be appealing to younger audiences. God knows, just like everyone else, that requiring 50% of the cast to be members of "historically underrepresented groups" is no more of a selling point for gen z kids than it is for anyone else. And if there's one thing young people today know how to do, it's spot superficial, performative activism that's being used as a !marketing strategy.
Writing is pretty much over. Look at the amazing writers of the past. Hemingway traveled to Spain during the Spanish Civil War and other incredibly dangerous places. Travel was a dangerous thing back then. Now today any zoomer can jump on a plane and be anywhere in 12 hours. I've heard tourists lament how places are getting "samey". These old writers used to drink and smoke tobacco. Tobacco is a natural testosterone booster. These writers would womanize and fight bulls and hunt animals. You know man stuff. The writer's of today just have 0 opportunity to get those life experiences anymore. All they have to write about is what they know. About having trouble opening soylent bottles.
The problem has also been the monopolization of the industry. Before, you used to have many ways to finance a film, with hundreds of production companies, independent and studio owned. Nowadays it all basically boils down to 5 or 6 options who can finance the films and all of them have the same policies and ignorace about film. They have destryoed the artist, and his unique point of view. Hollywood should never be forgiven until it is completely burnt to the ground. Only then we will be able to see the true artists and visionaries rise from the ashes.
@Sottunar And who not only fits the DEI requirements, but have the same politics as well. They will EASILY decide to skip over a person who might fit the DEI requirements, but not share the same political ideas.
"And if there's one thing young people today know how to do, it's spot superficial, performative activism that's being used as a !marketing strategy." Spot on. People growing up today are being advertised to constantly. They develop a keen sense at a young age for when someone is trying to sell them something, whether that be a product or a political message.
I don’t think sequels and nostalgia are the problem. It’s the fact that they disrespect the franchises they’re making. And they always have to push their ideology into everything tainting the movies. With identity politics.
This is a big reason why after Batman '89 you did NOT see a massive deluge of superhero movies, but you DID see many noir, detective style films like Dark Man, Dick Tracy, and The Shadow, because execs at the time grew up reading the OG DC comics.
WTF you are you talking about dude? Batman 89 literally kicked of an avalanche of Superhero/comic books films through the 90's and I should know because lived through that era.
GEN Z, doesn't work, doesn't date, doesn't go to theaters. I've been saying what you've been saying... for years. Hollywood is burning right now and all those studio executives are looking to us and saying "SAVE US" and I'm looking right at them and saying....."NO"
THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES. Now the whole industry with their holier than thou woke attitude is sinking. I'm loving every moment of it.
Professionals talk about how they were able to rent apartments 30 years ago going to school waiting tables that now that they are professionals like laywers they would not be able to afford their old apartment. The only way to win at a rigged game is to not play. Gen Z is incredibly wise. Life was always a rat race but there used to be a big piece of cheese called a home and a family at the end of it. That's gone now. My shack has tripled in price in the last 3+ years. I wouldn't be able to afford where I live now in a small town. If I do lose my place I don't know what happen because rents have also tripled. Wages have not tripled in the last 3 years.
@@Drak976 the only way to win is to change the game, and play by your own rules. Lamenting about what you lost isn't going to fix what's wrong. GEN Z isn't the first generation to have these problems, but they are the first to do nothing about them. GEN X (me) had the same kinds of turmoil going on. We had to learn how to adapt, and we still have the same challenges. But GEN Z wasn't taught how to have resilience. Just get trophies for showing up. It's scary and sad at the same time
Central banks like the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England - privately owned cartels that tell 'democratic' governments what to do with their economic policy (and institute manoeuvres to remove politicians that try to break free à la Liz Truss the short-lived UK prime minister) are the ones that mandate stagnatation of our wages. It's a deliberate policy that enriches the super rich oligarch class. Meanwhile hard assets like houses are not counted in their annual 'inflation' indices and so are free to inflate away. Since the 1950s, house prices have risen by many times the median salary of a single breadwinner (from 2-3 times to now like 40 times in big cities like London and New York), which is why even two-breadwinner households now cannot get on the housing ladder. Ask yourself: who's been buying up all the land and houses and farms over the last few years?? You shouldn't be shocked to find it's the same rich and well connected families that control the central banks, that's who - and that's why. Our loss is their gain. All by design.
Like Rorschach would ever save Hollywood
Your reaction was planned and expected. Congratulations on acting exactly as you were meant to, I guess.
Step one of the "Four steps for ideological subversion" (Yuri Bezmenov, 1985)
Demoralization - this is a process which can take about 15-30 years to perform (a generation). During this stage, the moral fibre and integrity of the country is put into question, thereby creating doubt in the minds of the people. To do so, manipulation of the media and academia is required to influence young people. *As the younger generation embraces new values, such as Marxism and Leninism, the older generation slowly loses control simply through attrition.* Again, true facts no longer matter during this stage, but rather creating perceptions are of paramount importance.
Communism and Religion
Abolished - all religious and metaphysics is rejected. Engels and Lenin agreed that religion was a drug or “spiritual booze” and must be combated. To them, atheism put into practice meant a “forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.”
Eliminating American exceptionalism, fundamental change of national identity, structural deconstruction of foundational principles, elimination of religion. Embedding a new societal design upon the psyche of generations through ideological academia, peer pressure by elites upon academics and society to convince that prior values were inherently flawed, racist, prejudiced etc. National identity is diluted with aspersions toward historical references. National History is re-written, re-defined, and molded to fit the new intended behavioral model and create the new values.
Art is history. That would include decades old IP being "reimagined for a modern audience".
www.engadget.com/nielsen-says-viewers-are-mostly-streaming-older-network-shows-132553348.html
....To give an idea of the disparity, The Office was watched on Netflix to the tune of 952 million hours, compared to Netflix’s original series Ozark with 508 million hours of viewing time. Grey’s Anatomy and Criminal Minds also both beat Ozark with 657 and 590 million hours, each. The other top original series programs were Lucifer, The Crown, Tiger King (all on Netflix) and Disney’s The Mandalorian.
The figures show that *people are going for familiar, escapist entertainment rather than challenging new shows,* which isn’t shocking considering 2020’s constant deluge of bad news.
(From BBC Arts)
In Munich, Adolf Hitler staged two exhibitions which defined the way we think about modern art. The Great German Art show displayed the artists he approved of, *the Degenerate Art show displayed the artists he despised.* In these two exhibitions, mounted side by side in adjacent galleries, *the battle lines were drawn between traditionalism and modernism. It’s a battle that’s still being fought today.*
*Do you like art that’s realistic and reassuring?* Or do you prefer art that’s experimental or disturbing? Maybe you like a bit of both - in which case, you’re like a lot of people who went to see these shows.
The idea was to see the Degenerate Art show, and see how German art had been debased
The Nazis wanted people to see both shows, but they didn’t want people to make up their own minds. *The idea was to see the Degenerate Art show, and see how German art had been debased* - and then see the Great German Art show, and see how the Nazis has redeemed it.
The Liberal, Marxist "art" is today's debased art. The original shows/movies would be considered superior art, and the Nielson ratings show that is what people want to see.
Reverse psychology is a technique involving the assertion of a belief or behavior that is opposite to the one desired, with the expectation that this approach will encourage the subject of the persuasion to do what is actually desired.
So the pendulum swings, now violently, now slowly; and every institution not only carries within it the seeds of its own dissolution, but prepares the way for its most hated rival.
William Ralph Inge
"Democracy and the Future" The Atlantic Monthly (March 1922)
The current Liberal institution is being used to assert Marxist ideologies with the expectation people be encouraged to go in the direction of traditionalism and Conservative ideologies.
You might want to look up "Bread and circuses" and compare that to modern Hollywood.
Liberal corporations are giving superficial appeasement (in the form of entertainment) to a small, vocal minority of people to gain political power. These people being catered to, like a some groups in the Roman empire, no longer cared about Civic Duty (the greater good) or their history and were only concerned about what they could gain at the expense of others. (Sounds a bit familiar, doesn't it?)
The bread and circus era ended when the autocratic Emperors took power from the aristocrats behind it all.
The US/West is being prepped to accept a new Emperor, or Fuhrer, who will remove the Liberals from positions of power, authority and influence to show the superiority of traditional, Conservative ideologies.
That Emperor's name is Donald John Trump, descendant of Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne.
There is an old saying, familiarity breeds contempt.
Fun fact: in 1984 Hollywood was competing with foreign films - and that's why it was willing to risk it.
Now Hollywood has monopolized the global film industry - so it plays it safe.
Hollywood needs competition to make good original films.
Back then it was also competing with the indie/underground filmmakers, as well as the adult industry movies - BOTH of which "captured" market share, in one way or another.
The main problem with remakes is they keep trying to "modernize" them trying to appeal to everyone but end up not pleasing anyone.
They are not trying to make movies to appeal to everyone but to the woke crowd. But although very vocal, the woke crowd isn't that big, and as audience aren't sufficient to fund expensive blockbusters.
You can only do so many reboots and remakes until people get sick of seeing the same characters and worlds.
Marvel and DC are the biggest offenders and I've been on their necks since the '00s.
@@AmbiguousMan724 I remember being really excited after Infinity War the end of the marvel series (we don't talk about end game in this household) and I excitedly asked my comic nerd friend what happens next? Basically it's all fighting clouds and infinite copies of that one abuser guy or other goofy stuff and they reboot. It's either that or they continue to get whackier and whackier as we've seen. I still find it funny the keep trying to rehabilitate Loki after making him a clown in Avengers 1. That movie could have just been The Hulk. He literally didn't need anyone else. You're telling me the hulk couldn't jump up to the portal? BS. Noone needed hawk guy. He's just there for toy sales.
You nailed it.
Rogue One, Book of Boba Fett, Obi Wan, The Force Awakens, The Mandalorian, Rise of Skywalker, etc. all had prominent desert settings.
The "I hate sand" line really resonates...
I haven’t seen gen z or millennials attach themselves to an intellectual property and spend the money to keep it relevant and profitable.
He literally mentions harry potter in this video. That's not millenials? Maybe stories should end? Star Wars was plenty relevant and popular without new Disney movies or Lucas prequels. It never went away before they killed it. Harry Potter was game of the year last year right? You're blaming the audience. I would have loved a Star Trek movie about you know science and stuff. Instead they give me Picard in a Dune buggy. Or worse action man blowing up Vulcan because teehee mystery box.
@@Drak976 In all fairness, when you have a director who thinks Star Trek is just another type of Star Wars, then Vulcan getting blown up like Alderaan comes as no surprise. Then again, he doesn't really strike me as someone who has ever read anything more philosophical than popular "reading lists" in modern high school. Older sci-fi writers were STEEPED in the writings of vintage sci-fi writers (and incorporated some of those older writers' work into their own), read up on philosophy, psychology, history, science - and all if it showed, even if it wasn't a deep understanding of the topic. Modern-day writers SOMEHOW find the time to tweet out angry tweets at random people and go on interviews congratulating themselves on their angry tweets, when a better usage of their time would be to spend time developing their own self-knowledge and by doing so, become better storytellers in the process.
The problem that Hollywood will run into is that they’re not just risk-averse to original IP; they’re run out of talented writes to begin with. These writers are dependent on existing IP because their original stories would never stand up in their own.
Yes, exactly.
They didn't run out. They forced them out. That is very different.
@@JustaUser17247 If that were true they'd have just made smaller projects on their own. There's nothing. Like Never Ending Story. The nothing got the writers. I think people aren't going far enough back. All these remakes and reality tv shows started happening after the 2008ish writers strike. I'm convinced they never came back. Sure they might have "settled" but that doesn't mean they got to write anymore. Everything has been trash since then. They ran out of scripts around 2012 and now it's just been absolute garbage swill. Bilge filth. Storm drain refuse. Caked on muck in a sewer that you have to send Mike Rowe down with a chisel to remove. That's movies now.
@@Drak976 I definitely agree with this! But also, the artists they ran out culd not make smaller projects because the industry became completely centralized and monopolized by only a very very few companies. 5 or 6. So all those people they ran out just had no other options, even if they did want to make smaller projects. Sadly those projects aren't made anymore, except for woke garbage for sundance that nobody, absolutely nobody wants to watch, (aside from the festival goers).
That, but also the writers these days have so many checklists and boxes they have to tick, that it destroys the creativity of writing something that can resonate with people.
I even know Gen X folks who hate the recycling of shows and IP's.
You hit the target with this video Andre! Hollywood thinks that just owning an IP of a previously successful film is a license to print money. That all you need to do for a remake/reboot is add younger cast members, update the special effects, sprinkle in some nostalgia bait and Boom! Instant success! Now that formula is failing and Gen Z & Alpha aren't buying it. Nostalgia by definition is for people who lived thru a specific time and the only way these kids would see these remakes is if their Gen X & Millennial parents drag them to it. Most of those upcoming remakes will bomb hard and only after Hollywood loses hundreds of millions more will they wake up and change their ways. Anyone remember that Mean Girls remake that was just released this year? The original is "only" 20 years old and it still bombed. Not to mention how difficult it is to pry kids away from video games and Tic Tok today, good luck with that Hollywood.
I have a lot of original stories. However, it is next to impossible to have Hollywood taking notice of me and my original characters.
You do, however, have a RUclips audience - and unlike Hollywood's studio system, there's no barrier of entry.
Also, you can reach MILLIONS more on RUclips than the studios ever could (in current day)
@@sigmacademy How can I do that?
not just gen Z or millennials; everyone is tired of sequels and reboots. Do majors realize that Ghostbusters, Terminator, etc, are now more than 40? How's possible to have a 'new' Ghostbusters with the OLD crew? The nostalgia can work, maybe, once, on the old viewers, but how many Ghostbusters a man, or a woman, can watch in their life? And why anyone born after 1990 should watch it? I've seen the first and second Indiana Jones at cinema, the last two of them on streaming, and just because I had a subscription. But I went to cinema to watch Dune and Oppenheimer. Majors have to risk for something new, because the old IP, included Star Wars, are the past
I agree 100% with you. The problem I see is that with all this DEI non-sense, are there true creators left to make good original movies and series ?
Your mostly right. The new generation needs their own franchises, and fewer rehashing of older ones.
If they want to build a new audience with the same kind of interest as the first Ghostbusters then they need to make a film as good as the original Ghostbusters. The issue is not if it's a remake or not, it's about quality and audience interest; no one asked for a Ghostbusters remake without top tier writing and comedy.
Dune is a remake yet look how well received that's been and how well it's done financially, Oppenheimer is a biopic yet hand in hand with Barbie it did incredibly well because the audience was given something it wanted. The audience is simply sick and tired of content sludge from Hollywood, they either fix that or they'll lose even more of their audience.
Hard agree.
@@RoseBaggins same
Only kinda agree.
Take the latest Mission Impossible. it was a well done, entertaining movie. But Mario Brother did substantially better in the theater. Mission Impossible appealed to 40-60 yr old audience. Mario Brothers appealed to young adults w/ or without kids.
I have a 19 yr old son. He won't spend his money on a franchise that started before he was born. Part of this is the extreme disappointed he experienced in theaters through his high school years.
I have long abandoned Hollywood's recycled propaganda for alternate forms of entertainment. I have loved Japanese Anime for years now and while it has some MAJOR problems (their animators are literally being worked to death for wages a SLAVE would balk at). The storytelling is miles above what Hollywood has done for the last 20 years.
I'm a 37/38 year old Millennial and I don't mind continuations...as long as they're done right. It always seems like writers miss the mark and that we as the audience members could write better scripts and know what to stay away from or what boundaries to not cross with established "moods" of previous movies. The thing that made Ghostbusters so funny was the subtle humor and observational commentary on adulthood and the red tape we encounter in life. Later on, Ghostbusters 2 perfectly straddled the line between this and also grabbing the interest of children for expansive marketing, but it did it in a well-blended way.
The new movies fail to do this as consistently. I will say this, I like that the new movies have a respect for the old movies, even if it is executed in a misguided way. That alone allows me to feel okay about them compared to 2016's insult-fest to fans, its reverse-sexism and crappy comedy, but the main problem here even if you're going to modernize the comedy (which I'm okay with) is the pacing and editing. It's just not organized or cut correctly at all. Again, nothing in the story "ruins" Ghostbusters lore for me or anything, unlike the Star Wars sequels, it's just that the GB sequels are underwhelming and a bit disappointing, but they have some re-watch value if you want to enjoy something light-hearted that you don't take as seriously as the masterpieces of the past.
Every generation wants an original movie or franchise. When I was growing up, we all eagerly awaited the next Star Wars movie. A following generation eagerly awaited the next Lord of the Rings movie and then Harry Potter. Each generation want its unique childhood memory movies.
I am 44. I am not into what gets rehashed today. Good new shows are good. Bad rehashes are still bad. I guess younger people would also watch continuations if they are done well. Which... they are not. Nowadays I mostly watch korean shows and anime. They are fresh, well made with universal values.
Wow! One of the best analyses I have seen on this era. It DOES feel like the late 60s, early 70s. Let’s hope for a new Alan Ladd Jr.
Weird! Gary (Nerdrotic) reported taking his family to see the movie, and that the adults were bored while the kids seemed to mostly enjoy it?
This is so intelligent. The comparing of the dates. Very communicative. [moments later] Shortly after I wrote the foregoing, I heard obscenity, thus mingling inferiority with intelligence. Is that truly the way to reach a broader audience: inferiority + intelligence?
Oh no know they can't count on the old audience to boost their numbers either.
Especially with how much sh!t they said about them and the original works.
Time is a fickle thing. Consider this: Every teenager who watched Avengers: Endgame in theaters is now an adult. Most teenagers today, in the spring of 2024, have only experienced the post-Endgame Marvel era.
There are still some that experienced it later on but not at the time. Comparing it to other well known franchises released before the century it doesn't age well
It always stuns me in
'Back to the future'
they only travelled back 30 years and that film is heading for its 40th anniversary.
Tempus fugit.
Mom I want a hoverboard from back to the future!
Mom: We have one at home
One at home: stupid balance board with wheels sigh.
This is the worst timeline. Somewhere out there are self drying jackets and they also promised me shoes that pumped themself I think nike tried and failed at that.
I've been saying for years that without any original content being produced there will eventually be nothing to reboot or sequelize.
Were all over due for some originality. Hollywood now seems to be more interested in making DEI lectures wrapped in a beloved theme from decades past, rather than entertainment or a bit of escapism.
The problem to my mind is not that remakes are being made; but the fact the industry is being over satuarated with remakes and reboots that change the original movies drastically for the most part in themes to fit their agenda. In the words of Aughra from my favorite movie as a kid Dark Crystal, "Big Change. Sometimes Good. Sometimes Bad." I think Hollywood needs to make more movies out of novels, maybe some classic novels of literature as well as Charles Dickens (without it being a christmas carol...let's get some different Dicken's books on the big screen) or even some works from newer authors.
Something contempory please. Someone earlier in the comments was wanting Narnia and I was like they already did that and it was so booooooorrriiiiiiiiiing. Right now I'm reading that one over rated guys "short" story The Forbidden planet and it's just dragging on and on forever. Meanwhile something actually enjoyable I can zip through volumes of it in days. Have you heard of the way over used genre isekais? Well there's a western version of that "lit rpg" and I think you could really make some of those books into movies I don't want to name names after already dmping on everyone's precious shiny sacred goats. tl;dr I wish we had more Dark Crystal and less "classic" scifi.
Most of the works of famous classic writers have never even been put on the screen yet.
Batman and Spider-Man date to 1939 and 1962, respectively. The kids still seem interested. There are even older works of art that inspire perennial remakes and adaptations, such as Jane Austen’s novels, although they typically don’t appeal to young people.
That's a worry for Hollywood. It gave up originality a long time ago. Not sure what they can do because it's not as though their hacks are suddenly going to be creative after decades of refining their formulas.
This is actually great news. Even the boomers like me are sick of the reboots and remakes. We need new IP's!
I don't know a single Gen X who didn't hate this movie, and who doesn't hate what Hollywood has become.
I was born in 1973. I just want to see good movies again. I feel like we have already seen every possible story ever told
And that’s the problem when you have directors and producers who want to reimagine certain stories because they think they can do it better. I’m talking like JJ Abrams, Alex Kurtzman, Kevin fige people of that discussed. They don’t just want to play in someone else’s sandbox. They want to disrupt the sandbox because they think that they can do a better job. That’s why we have things like the cursed JJ Abrams, Star Trek movies Abrams Star Wars movie makes me sick to think about it, Kevin Feige basically destroying marvel and making it in his own sick twisted image, and so on and so forth like these people think to think they can do better when they can’t. They can’t improve on perfection.
And yet the wizard of Oz is even older than national velvet and that franchise continues
Fun fact: Even newer franchises like “John Wick” are already 10 years old. Time marches on. #RIPDaisy
Loved the example with "Neverending Story" and "National Velvet". Even people in their 40s and 50s like me are tired of this endless rehashes. We want original NEW stuff, Hollywood. You don't have to reinvent the wheel, some storylines will always be timeless, just try and don't be so lazy and safe.
As a Gen X, if today's Hollywood tries to remake anything I grew up with, I will boycott it. I am tired of my childhood being destroyed. From Star Trek, Star Wars, Scooby Doo. WITHOUT OUT RESPECT I REJECT.........
Hollywood has dug themselves a deep hole that Mount Everest couldn't fill it.
I think I will still to enjoying the first two movies and the spiritual 3 film/video game from several years ago.
I didn't mind the previous Ghostbusters film, it was a nice way to say goodbye to Harold Ramis, but I really don't feel a need for more Ghostbusters films.
Hollywood decided to make a sequel to National Velvet in the late 70s - International Velvet.
One world velvet would draw the crowds today.
Bad Boys 4 just dropped a trailer a couple of hours ago.
Tim Pool argues that this is going to happen to pop culture more and more -- young people of this generation just don't have the spending money of previous generations. (Probably because their parents are divorced, which means less money can be spent on kids.) But, probably also because the jobs typically taken by young people are being taken by people here illegally these days.
Good for the kids. They need to keep demanding their own properties. While I would argue that The Hunger Games that released in 2012 was the last time the kids got to have something of their own (Twiilight happened before that, and I would also say qualified). I do think 5 Nights at Freddy's does qualify for part of the population here. But that's it. I think that's all they've got that's new and original and popular. And I feel bad for them. They deserve to have stuff that feels special for them.
In regards to remaking National Velvet, yes, I had heard of it when I was a little girl. My grandmother mentioned it. I think she was disappointed I wasn't more interested in horse stories (I was not a horse girl,, though I know a lot of little girls go through a period like that). But even if I HAD been, we would have gone out to watch the original. Because when I was a little girl, hat's when VCRs came into existence, and we could just rent videos from Blockbuster or even our local library. There was no need to go make a new version of something that was good the first time around.
I mean, remaking stuff is part of WHY Ghostbusters 2016 failed. There are a lot of problems with that film, don't get me wrong. But no one wanted a remake in the first place. the original was just fine the way it was.
I think Hollywood is failing to understand franchises. Let's use Star Wars as an example. I was not born with Star Was original came out. The movie was not made for me. But my dad loved it. It took me some time, personally, to come to appreciate it. One of my younger sisters was more on board with it than I was, but slowly Star Wars became a thing we did as a family of scifi/fantasy geeks. The reason I like Star Wars, specifically, is because my dad liked Star Wars. He passed on that liking and enjoyment to us.
My family went to see the more recent Star Wars films together, even with husbands and kids and things. And they made us stop liking Star Wars. We stopped going to the films with Han Solo. That's really the only way I can put it. My sister who even did cosplay as Leia is no longer following Star Wars. And she and her husband aren't showing the kids Star Wars and sharing their love for it because it's kind of spoiled for them. It's no longer interesting. And so they're not producing the next generation of fans that would keep the franchise going.
Are there always going to be remakes and adaptations? Yes. There's quite a lot of us who like Narnia, for example. We'd really like it if someone could finally do a good adaptation of the books and finish out the series. Narnia is a series from the 1950s, but it's a classic, and one that families pass on generationally to their children. So are things like Anne of Green Gables, Laura Ingells Wilder, the Wizard of Oz, Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys,, and so on. Harry Potter is likely to end up in that group as well, though those other franchises I just listed are over 100 years old now, and Potter is only pushing 30. Love of these kinds of series have been passed on for four or five generations now. But not everything is that good.
And of the things that are still good, we don't always need a remake. The Neverending Story is a product of its time. It doesn't need to be remade. And dear God, what are they going to do about Artax? Because I don't think they're going to do that scene justice. Because today they sanitize and bowdlerize everything like the Victorians did. They can't handle the truth. ;) Or at least they think the kids can't handle things like Bambi's mother or survivors of Auschwitz or other things. that were in my kids movies. and in books from earlier times.
The people behind all the greenlights are too scared to do new things. So instead they're strangling the life out of what they've got.
So goof for the kids. I hope they do get something new and special that's just theirs. And good for the rest of us if they just stop ruining all the old properties that they don't understand in the first place.
I'm a dad. Seeing all my old stuff "revived" isn't even cool. It's very much Pet-Semetary. What went into the ground is not what came back out.
"Sometimes, dead's better"
Even a casual reading of youtube comments could've revealed this years ago.
Disney literally said it was Russian bots that didn't like Star Wars and this was way before the current war thing. I'm surprised they haven't made the storm troopers Russians yet. Prepare for another 20 years of every single villain having vaguely eastern european look/sound. Middle easterners looks like you're off the list sorry no acting jobs for you as villains now.
Wow! Who would’ve thought Gen Z and Millennials would have no interest watching reboots of movies and shows featuring characters that only Boomers and Gen X have a nostalgic interest in? Who would’ve thought? Absolutely everyone with a functioning brain.
Born in the 80's and of course I love many movies of that era (1980 - 2000) but even I want more original stuff! Yeah give me the occasional remake but don't rely almost exclusively on them.
Love these fast takes! SKOL MEAD!
It's so bizarre. Look at the cultural output of previous generations. We get films like Casablanca, Citizen Kane, 2001, Apocalypse Now, and even with Gen X directors, we got some great "super hero" films, like Nolan's Batman and Favreau's Ironman.
Now? Remake everything that came before and put a chick in it and make it lame and gay. Don't create any more. Just destroy.
The problem is people who lack imagination and have no creative cell in their body.
@@Drixenol86 But they also assume the audience has no imagination as well, and needs a character with their skin tone to understand the story.
"Ah! That's the one that represents me!"
@@funkydiscogod I remember me and my friends wanted to like Blade but then we remembered he was black. Oh wait that never bothered us even though we were all white kids. Wait a minute this must be one of those mandela timeline things I forget the first black super hero movie was Black Panther.
People have have selective memory, easy to pick the great movies of the past like Casablanca, but what about the other movies that came out in 1942, like "To the Shores of Tripoli" or The Tarzan rehashes that came out that same year or even the directors putting their own political agenda into movies with their opinion of the War doing those times. Every period of movie history have these tag lines, it's nothing new and will keep occurring, why because people are people. It's just the hypocrisy that is annoying, only difference now is that there are just more people have access to media than ever before.
It's to the point everyone cry woke for no reason at all, like this is new. In the past, this was a non issue; now everybody is soft. Before if a black character was just placed in a all white cast, he was just a "Token"... now its woke... Growing up we had Conan the barbarian, but if Red Sonya came out today that would be woke. We had He-Man as a kid, guess what would be considered woke...She-Ra.
Last year, out of the 100 top movies only about 30 of them had a women lead and only 1 had a black female. Why are people crying like white male actors are dying out nothing changed they make 70% of the Hollywood movies.
@@Bookerjj Disagree with you
May I point out they did it back then too. 1978's Intentional Velvet, a continuation of the older classic. My now 80 year old mother loved it! She watched it every time it aired on network TV in the 80s.
There are plenty of older folks that are tired of remakes as well. It does not help when few of these are any good when dragged back up again.
They've done this to themselves, if they would have done a great job with their franchises, they could have had young audiences to continue them.
Hollywood's next remake:
Hollywoodland.
When I heard about wtc, I rejoiced because I thought that nyc was bein destroyed. I was disappointed when I found out that it was a deliberate controlled demolition which was one of 3 messages sent to world freemasonry: destruction of twin pillars Jachin and Boaz, destruction of Masonic pentagonal symbol, and upside down masonic goat in hands of W Bush. All of the above betokened a shifting in power and was symbolic.
Besides the fact that the office of the pentagon that was stricken by a missile, not a plane, was the office that held the records of the billions of dollars misappropriation, but that was a secondary benefit after the symbolic intent.