Hot Rod Tesla Conversion 2wd chassis
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Freshly completed rolling chassis overview. Chassis uses a rear Tesla model 3 drive and a shortened standard range 50kw model 3 battery pack. Custom design and fabricated double a-arm front suspension using Tesla model 3 brakes and hub assemblies.
Yes, and I remember when a turbocharged musclecar wasn't a real musclecar, but a 6-71 blower made you awesome. Bring on the new technology, and let's go for a ride!
Couldn’t agree more!
Beautiful work on this chassis
This looks awesome. I am really keen to do a conversion like this. I am over in New Zealand but am in the USA in October. Would be keen to take a look.
This is the best EV swap as a base kit. It's the lightest, cheapest, off the shelf and highest quality you can start with for any kit car swaps. I can see this being the future for 3d printed cars. Just stick on body panels and reuse the tesla interior.
You are right regarding history repeating itself. This is the future, but 2023 and 2024 will be less consumption maybe these products are not so effected. But shopping in general will for sure take a hit.
Dang I'm looking to do this same setup on my Tesla Ranger project.
Will need custom frame but will try using front and rear subframe with a custom shock/spring mount.
I'm going to try and keep the Tesla system stock so I can keep stability, Abs and traction control.
Thanks for posting this up close look and keep it coming!
Wicked, I would love to check out how its going. If you have any questions don't hesitate, i've done a couple now. I have always abandoned the tesla ecosystem as aftermarket stuff has traction control available usually. Simplify the whole build.
Awesome work..... I hope to be able to do one of these mods one day.
nice work... I know one day i'll be able to get a bolt on kit just like this for my 68 F body. You are correct when you say this is the future.
Impressive work so far.
Thanks!
Some nice fabrication there! Well done.
Thank you sir
I want to build a tesla power s10 tube chassis instead of my current setup usin the bbc 468 with 800 hp but i want 4wd and to also build an enclosed trailer with all the amenities that go with sleeping chilling or goin racing and not have to charge it bcuz the roof will be solar panel setup and the floor will house the batteries and charging system
Love the sound of it! Cool project for sure.
Looks like another cool project.
That rear beams where the whole cradle/EDU is mounted will transfer a lot of bending moment on the rear Y axis chassis frame. That is if the unibody does not structurally tie the rear end to the rest over the B / C pillars.
I would strongly suggest to you to try and get some official high voltage training. Please always use HV PPE and keep all live terminals of the battery always properly insulated. Not trying to be safety nazi but coming from that industry, shit can go bad quickly.
Thanks man. Yeah the unibody is going to tie the whole thing together. I’m always hesitant about showing projects part way through because not everything is explained right away. I have actually put some serious thought into offering high voltage training / awareness, so safety nazi is alright with me!
Awesome work, I'm impressed
appreciate it, thanks!
My track car dream in reality 😮
I am interested in a 67 Fastback shell on a P100D powertrain and chassis.
I am disabled Veteran with 8 Kids in need of a larger vehicle. A chevy Express 1500 10 Passenger with 120KWH Battery would be sick
There would be a market for something like that! Van is pretty heavy though.
When referencing the battery I think you mean to say it's a 50kWh unit not 50kW.
Right you are, Apologies. Sometimes my brain stops working on video.
Love this idea with the shorter battery box. Very clever.
Looks great !! Would like to talk to you about a chassis for a project we are about to build. Thx
Looking great! This is the only right way to do an EV conversion!
Thanks! Yeah this way, in my opinion, makes for a much better end product.
Looking to build something similar for my 1936 Chevy / Sumlin (part of my last name lol) retro style street rod . With a hand built fiberglass body . With a few twist.
Modernizing it will have to send a link when I get it started!
Putting my shop together now, long story after a divorce. But anyway 😎 cool stuff!!
Project sounds very cool, I would love to check it out when you get rolling!
That front suspension is brilluant. Would love to see an episode of how you build your frames. Are they flat plates that you corner weld into boxes? How do you jig that up?
*brilliant
Thanks! Yeah, they are CAD designed laser cut flat plates, formed and welded corner to corner. I have much more on my Instagram page that shows fabrication stuff.
I would love to see a 4x4 4 wheel steer with electric power steering front and back. But an aluminum tube chassis/ roll cage. And fibre glass shell.
It looks like the rear chassis rails should be connected at the back. Is there any support back there?
Yeah this is getting a unibody car grafted to the chassis, so lots of support everywhere. We did consider an aluminum chassis for this one but cost killed it.
at first i was sad to see v8 sounds go away but then i bought a tesla and and my sadness went away 😊 the speed and handling make up for the v8 sound i had in my 19 mustang gt
I am super impressed
Thanks!
Looking good! love what you did for the frame
Thanks!
awesome!
Thanks!
The fabrication skill here is unreal.
Fantastic execution. I am currently looking for a salvage tesla plaid to start a similar build for my 69 mustang. I bet in 3-5 years people will look back at this as a turning point for alot of gearheads. I would love to see more content on your chassis build proccess. Its awsome.
What is your total width edge to edge on the frame?
Mustang would be awesome! Plaid is a pretty wide track width to deal with. I'm with you, it is a bit early still but people will catch on. I just started the RUclips thing after I had these mostly built, so most of the build stuff is just photos. But the next one I'm just starting the CAD work for and I will video much more indepth and share.
@@519KustomzIs there any software to run a plaid rear drive unit?
@@haaseuros9789 this controller is made by ingenext. I don’t think they support the plaid drive. Try EV Controls in Ottawa, they might.
@519Kustomz I sent them an email. My engine is kinda old now so I think I want to go ev next. Honestly might be cheaper to go even plaid drive unit then another built turbo engine and trans next.
I want to electro-mod my S10 like this for daily duty and Autocross racing fun! Cant wait until the parts and pricing starts to really come down
It will take a bit still but pricing will come down eventually. However, it is actually quite comparable to a high horsepower motor and transmission, all things considered.
What Ferrari body is going on this?
Great vid! Was it hard to divorce the penthouse from the pack? Could you keep it all mostly together in a package to place elsewhere in the build?
I ended up making a mini penthouse as I wanted to keep the main contactors within the pack for safety reasons. I did have to make a new box to house the rest of the goodies elsewhere, but did re-organize their layout. It was alot of extra messing around!
Beautiful work.
Thank you! Cheers!
I love you work and vids
I totally agree with you. I have a tesla model 3 swap in the works myself. What kind of motor/battery controller are you using?
The last two i have used the ingenext controller. What swap are you working on? love to see it.
@@519Kustomz Awesome, I am planning on doing the same!
The car I'm working on is a 1949 Cadillac Sixty Special (I think). I'll send you a link to my build thread if you want to check it out!
Keep on truckin, your doing great
I appreciate it
A Pontiac Fiero would be sick too
🔥
How much was the build?
Why not use cheap mx5 hubs and wishbone suspension on the front?
I’ve got a Tesla and it has been a great car, but where we live they are everywhere, so it feels a bit boring. I’ve been kicking around buying a classic car and converting it and it seems that one of the trickiest things is figuring out where the batteries go. The most logical place is under the car, which makes me think the most logical type of car to convert would be a body on frame. There are literally millions of Model 3s and Ys on the road, which means all kinds of parts available for cheap, it’s the frame that can support the battery that is the tricky part, which you’ve solved. Do you have any interest in selling just the frame to fit a standard Model 3/Y battery pack and motor(s)? I feel like there’s a business case for it. Just a quick check and the Model 3 wheelbase is 113.2”, a Model Y is 113.8”, while, for example, a 1957 Chevy Bel Air wheelbase is 115”. Seems doable.
So far every thing has been built to spec. The next chassis I'm currently working on (corvette) will be more of a candidate for production. The issue with the model 3 pack is the width. Not all chassis can be that wide and still accommodate the stock body mount locations. After I have a good handle on the vette stuff I will try some other platforms for sure.
Testla + vintage body 🤟 I want a testla chevy vega GT
Want this for my Countach replica build
I was kind of thinking about doing the same sort of thing except for using a Lamborghini body if it's even possible I don't know
When you get a complete the car do you have a problem getting it registered ?
That is a tricky question as the laws are different everywhere. Generally though, it is best to start with the car certified and licensed and registered, then it is just modified. In Canada for example, it is ultimately the certifying mechanics discrestion.
@@519Kustomz Thanks for getting back to me I appreciate it Yeah things are a little different than they were many years ago about getting things registered. You are doing some really nice work.
could this be possible with a 98 3000gt? except with 2 models plaid rear drive units, one for front wheels and one for rear wheels.
Anything is possible. I would however run a single plaid rear drive and a front motor, instead of two rear motors. They way tesla runs them is the rear motor is the master and the front motor is basically a slave. Trying to run two rear motors, perfectly in sync would likely not be worth the headache.
@@519Kustomz ah ok thanks
I have built several off-road gas powered race cars through the years. And I would like to try Electric. Can I hire you to build a chassis like this for a Vintage Mustang body
Happy to chat. Feel free to email Dan@519Kustomz.com
Ferrari kitcar? I was assuming an AMX.
You think it could be short enough to fit 94"5 Wheel base and 61"width for a 1969 volkswage, Bug nobody.
Not in this configuration, The model 3 battery is a large constraint. However, I am working on a bolt in kit for that (VW) platform.
Great video, I was wondering the wheel base minimum in inches of your chassis and the frame width between the axles? This looks applicable to early smaller muscle car bodies, and pickups? What is the kit car you built the chassis for, a Cobra by chance?
Wheel base was 98 inches. The width I would have to look up again, but that can be a issue in smaller muscle cars that had narrow-ish frames stock. This was for a fiberglass Ferrari replica
I have a question would the body of a bmw I8 fit on it?
Good question. I'm not familiar with the exact dimensions of the I8, but I bet it is close?, Seat height would likely be an issue.
i would like to convert a 60's cadillac coupe to ev using a rear tesla suspension&drive unit. tesla is attached with only 4 bolts, correct? would that need a complete new chassis or can an original chassis be used? i dont shy off a newly built one. batteries can be fitted in bonnet and trunk too? to achieve 120-150 kWh with battery=5-600kg equivalent to (engine,gearbox,ear axle+propshaft, tank etc). would that be viable project?
Yeah that sounds fun. I would verify the track width between the Cadillac and Tesla first. You should be able to build attachment points to the factory frame but you are limiting your ride height. I like to make purpose built chassis as the solution.
Can’t wait to see the Ferrari shell
What gauge steel do you use for the chassis? I’ve already got a Tesla model 3 dual motor donor car for a 1957 Chevy Belair 4 door sport sedan which I also already have for the swap. What you have done is really the best solution for this sort of conversion. I’m planning on using as much of the Tesla as possible including power steering, Regenerative brakes, motors, penthouse wiring harness and battery pack mounted exactly as you have done it.
Have you or will you cut out as much weight from the body as you can? Building a chassis is one thing but getting the overall weight down with the classic body is probably the biggest challenge. The other option is to just not worry about the weight, beef up the brakes a bit and drive a bit more mindful of a really heavy car. Been building a new geothermal power station so am now just short of time until the project ends. Should get started on the belair ev conversion project in 2024. Andrew.
Love your project, sounds awesome. I almost always use .188" for the chassis
Can you use this for Chevy Suburban, rear wheel drive ?
Please l need your advice for big suv's.
Yes you could absolutely use a modified version of this. More like the Galaxie I did, with AWD and long range battery though.
First of all I want to congratulate you on your project, my name is Carlos Bueno, I saw your video and I really liked your electric chassis project, I am looking to make a prototype of an EV and I wanted to ask you how much the total budget of your project will be and if you plan to sell any turnkey chassis once finished
Hey Carlos. I sent you and email…
Hi do you make one model 3 performance twin motor for a 65 Corvair
Not yet, but it is possible!
I live in Florida. I have a very nice condition 56 Chevy Belair and I have a 67 Ford galaxy 500. Would you be able to convert either one of those to an electric vehicle for me? If not, do you know anyone that would be willing to do that project?
I am sure I could convert both of those! I'm not to familiar with the shops in and around Florida but there is bound to be someone closer to you. If not, happy to help!
Great work! What are you doing to the battery pack in terms of bms, cooling etc. Hacking the factory or aftermarket?
Cooling is factory but slightly re-plumbed. The BMS is kind of hacked factory. I use the battery controller from Ingenext.
Would you ever consider doing a chassis for someone wanting to do something similar? I have a 72 2 door Impala... Im not sure if that would work but I would think it would be similar in size to your Galaxie.
Yeah of course I would. The impala should be close to the galaxie just not sure how the frame was originally configured. Makes a big difference on how the battery fits.
I woder what that weighs as is
Advice for future videos... Not knowing the difference between a kW and a kWh is like not knowing the difference between horsepower and how much gas the fuel tank holds. Pretty basic stuff.
Thanks. Still new to shooting videos, so sometimes my brain shuts off...Ill get better.
How much would a chassis like that would cost?
Tough to ballpark as every chassis is different based on its setup
I am curious about the model 3 inverter workaround, I’m doing a conversion with the model 3/y motors and battery but can’t find a open inverter for the model 3 or why just model s and x
As far as I know Damien isn’t finished the model 3 boards for retail. Model 3 battery is a bit trickier. It doesn’t use a pre charge resister like the other manufactures, but ramps voltage with the psc before closing contacters. Couple manufacturers of controllers, but I use ingenext. They can run single/dual model 3/y motors and full complete battery.
@@519Kustomz is this a customizable system at the end in terms of power and output or is the final configuration, it? And does it take longer to move or is the ramp up quick?
I am using the model S batteries with the model 3 front and rear motors
@@gtmassive8193 oh sorry, I thought you meant model 3 pack. Model s is simpler and lots of support for. The ingenext system does allow some ‘tuning’ through an app, but there is a maximum power level set by Tesla as it still uses the Tesla inverter for everything concerning motor safety and longevity, not just the power stage
@@519Kustomz ok but does that mean I’ll have to switch back to model 3 batteries instead of model S and did you upload another video I’d like to see the setup
@@gtmassive8193 nope not at all. You can use any batteries you like providing the voltage is correct. The customer has this and is doing body and paint. I’ve upload some stuff of the next one I’m building though
Nice work, What did you do to shorten the coolant lines inside the battery pack, What type of connection did you use ?
I used as much of the plastic coolant lines as i could and found gates shrink fit coolant "clamps" exactly like the factory white ones.
The new blue ocean
so cool
What's a skateboard like this cost?
This chassis is around 25K but everyone is a little different so pricing varies. That does not include the tesla donor components.
Oooooo...that under a GT-40 body....
I like what you are thinking 👍
Is it possible to get such a car road legal in the Netherlands?
I would assume so, not familiar with the laws in the Netherlands though...
Could you use this base for a van ?
This one is purpose built, but yes, some iteration of this would work.
@@519Kustomz looking to use the tesla base for a Renault van in Europe. Should client accept the proposal. Probably need a model Y.
@@Manhoof cool project. Yeah lots to consider. Really depends on track width and wheel base. The Tesla stuff is a solid choice.
@@519Kustomz how long did it take you from receiving the parts to full drive readiness ?
What does this weigh as is
I didn't get a chance to weigh it before it left. I should have it back after body and paint so I will find out.
Do a Nissan 300ZX
I like that idea...
How long is the battery after shortening it?
Battery pack is 69” long after shortening
@@519Kustomzdamnit...it's still about 9" too long for my project. I still may reach out to you...I love this path for my swap
Do you have a plane of this chesis?
This one was spec for a customer
Sir, With this setup how much mileage one can expect, while giving optimum output.
This is just over 50kwh so it should give around 250 kilometres range given its weight.
@@519Kustomz 👀 what d ... Good lord. Seriously
Price
so you turmed a tesla into trash and wasted time and money. cool. can i have my time back pl :D
EVs are a joke. They have no distance. So what if you go fast for 3 blocks
I love kit cars…purist are idiots. Hot Rods have always been “outside of the box”
I love you work and vids
Could you make one small enough for a Porsche 356 coupe kit body?
of course! I would use a different battery option though.