Funny, but all the Apple centric youtube channels think that everybody is a creator, needs the highest end everything, etc. The PC youtubers suffer the same thing, the gamming disease. Apple sells more of the base models of mac mini's, macbook airs. 99.9 percent of their business is towards the rest of us. I'm old now retired, worked in the car business all of my life, even at GM as trainer. The most common thing was people tented to overbuy, like a 15 way power seat, when they only drove it, set it once and never moved it. Apple of course is like any other company, it tries to market to youtube creators, influencers etc, so that you can maybe someday, be like that guy on mac rumors! Those of us that are based in the real world just want something that works, were no going to video edit in 8K in final cut pro etc.
This is all true, but at the same time this is what these tech/apple channels are all about. They talk about the latest tech from apple, how to choose which model is right for you etc. and this year is no different.
"Most importantly, if you run out of space on your Mac because you have only 256GB of storage it's gonna start eat into your virtual memory." This is very false. If you run out of space, you're out of space and you will not be able to store anything unless you delete things or add external storage. Virtual memory is when you run out of RAM and your storage is used as much slower RAM.
I dont get it. I can edit 4K on my 2016 Macbook Pro and everything else with 8 GB RAM. Why is a machine coming out in 2023 not capable of it? Thats an info you are not offering to your viewers. How can such a machine only be ready for eMail reading? 99 Dollar Smartphone can read eMails. Please be more serious about your reviews! This review only disturbed and cofused me.
I’m finally replacing my 2008 and 2009 Mac Pros. I’ve decided on the M2 Pro Mac Mini with: 16GB ram, 12 cores, 19 core gpu, 1T of storage and 10G Ethernet. It’s all overkill for me but then my Mac Pro 4 core was overkill and lasted 14 years. The only reason I’m changing it out is the IOS is vulnerable to attacks because it’s not supported and some websites won’t even work with it. I will miss the 26T of storage on my Mac Pro but I don’t need access to all my videos all of the time. I have NAS drives as I bought them figuring my next Mac wouldn’t have that much internal storage. I was right.
Hi Dan, I am still running the 2012 Intel i7 16GB Mac Mini for basic Office Tasks. This thing is now 11 years old. So if longevity is something you’re looking for buy the best what you can get and enjoy it for many years to come!
This is funny I have the same 11 year old Mac Mini (late 2012, 2.6 GHz quad core with 16GB eam and 1TB Fusion drive) that I maxed out. Still works for most of my needs but can’t go past Catalina MacOS. I’m debating going with base model vs Pro. I’m leaning towards the Mac Mini Pro but the base model price tag is sure attractive. I can get the M2 for $499 with education discount vs $1199 for Pro. Tough decision
I have a Mac Pro 2008&2009 and they are still going. The problem is Apple stops supporting them and there comes a point where the browser also no longer support the old OS. I'm at that point and lots of websites won't even load up on my computer so I've had to order a new computer. My Mac Pros likely would have kept going for years and still worked fine. I can put 64GB of ram in them even and they are 14 years old! They have 25TB of storage in them and can be updated in numerous ways. Probably why Apple moved away from offering cheaper Mac Pros :(
@@cvdavisbuying new computer for web browsing is insane. Technically you should be able to compile Firefox yourself for the machine. If something works it should not be changed for the sake of environment
16 GB RAM is needed even for basic users. 256 GB storage is fine for most users, and iCloud storage is super cheap. A fast usb-c flash drive/stick in addition, and most people will be fine. So be it if transfers are a bit slower. How often do people transfer hundreds of GB? Do not overspec your Apple devices. It costs way to much, and you get less value for money. None of the spec-steps are worth more than 1/3 of what Apple charges for them.
RE: 8GB of RAM on models. This can cause filesystem performance hits. While SSD storage is blazing fast it is still not as fast as RAM. Many applications are written, especially ones that write data out to disk, with the assumption that they can write out as fast as possible and the OS will maintain enough filesystem cache for this to work out pleasantly for everybody. Desktops aren't my thing, but in the database/server world you can reasonably plan on half of your system ram being used for the filesystem cache. 8 GB is pretty paltry considering that Chrome can easily consume 4 GB on its own. No matter what CPU you have, the amount of filesystem cache will ultimately be the bottleneck. I suspect this is why your podcast recording sessions had drop outs - the app delivered the data effectively, but the OS was not able to scribble it down to the disk in time.
Thanks for the video. I bought a M2 Mac mini with 16 Go of ram and 256 Go SSD because this machine will be a secondary computer (the primary being a Fedora-based PC). I'll plug a 500 Go external SSD as well. François
Hello there! I'm also a GNU/Linux user, and I bought the 16gb upgrade for my M2 Mini. I'm switching to that computer full-time though. Very excited about the Asahi project
It's amazing how fast a $599 computer ($499 with educational pricing) becomes a $1299 computer. With my 2018 Mac mini, I have to use a significant amount of tricks to make 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage usable for my work - 4K video editing, Web Development, and App Development. This was barely tolerable 4+ years ago. Two generations later, I'm surprised that 8GB RAM / 256 GB Storage is still an option. Yet, this lets the customer decide what's important to them.
I've been fine using a 4gb 2010 MBA. Exporting is slow but I can leave it while taking a coffee break. Never had to go beyond 720p. But can't wait to edit on M1 must be super fast. I'd still prefer to stay at 720p though. :)
@Garrus Vakarian For $1600 bucks, i built a PC with 2TB of M2 PCIe MVMe SSDs, 32GB of RAM and Intel Core i7-12700K chip with very similar perfomance to that M2 Pro. Mac Mini looks more well rounded saving a lot of money for more storage and memory.
I think you will find that the M1 can do more with less memory than the intel. I have a 16GB Intel and an 8GB M1 and, surprisingly, some things, like running Xcode, run better on the M1. Also @Garrus Vakarian - you do not know what you are talking about. The M2 Pro for $300 more than similarly configured M1 has 50% more performance CPUs (4 to 6), 60% more GPUs (10 to 16) and double the memory bandwidth (100 Gb/s to 200). Time will tell, but I suspect that may be the machine to buy for most Professionals. The additional power in the full on M2 Pro or even the Studio will only be necessary for people paying for “specs”.
8gb ram wasn’t enough for me to run 4 tabs in chrome and 1-2 tabs in safari. I had to close tabs, if I wanted to check my email I’d have to close everything else or it would swap like crazy. I got 16 go now and I tend to sit around 10gb ram used and now swap
Hmm, you are wrong. The M1 Mac Mini has 2 128GB SSDs - That was a problem on the MacBook Pro 13", not the Mini. We don't know yet if it is a problem on the M2 256GB Mini yet. I have a base model M1 Mini and tested it myself, I'm sure you could have as well.
Thank you for this comment! I have seen the single SSD comment regarding the 256gb M1 Mini repeated in several RUclips videos and was about to upgrade to 512 based on that. You just saved me $200. Thank you for the insight!
I can relate! I started coding a year ago on my m1 8gb 256 and it was fine. I got my 1st remote role as a software engineer, and now I have to monitor the ram since I'm working on small personal projects and company products on the same mini, I'm now considering the m2 pro 32 gb 512. Also just had my 1st kid so I may wanna hop back into photography and some short videos so I should 100% "future-proof" myself with this next purchase.
I'm exactly in the same shoes as you, I'll be coding heavily and also use it for other purposes like photo editing and entertainment. I'm planning to get M2 pro mini with 16GB ram and 512GB SSD
You don't necessarily have to increase the storage for $200 when you have the option to connect external SSDs or even external NVME SSDs. You can put those $200 for 16gb ram instead.
surprised you didn't touch on the fact the base model is being shipped with a HDMI 2.0 port and the pro model has a 2.1 port. 4k at 60 vs 4k at 120 is a huge deal for usability of a desktop.
I are there still scaling issues if you opt for a 27” 4K monitor with the new models? I had pretty much decided on a 1440p monitor to avoid 4K scaling on a 27”
8 GB RAM and 256 GB storage are laughably low for a desktop. I'd never go for that. Storage I suppose you can use external storage for, but at least get 16 GB RAM.
I have MacBook Air M1 second tiered one with 8 ram 8gpu 512 connected to my Dell 34” monitor. I was thinking of getting the Mac mini M2 base model to have a dedicated desktop and free up my MacBook Air. You think it’s a good idea or waste of cash?
Even if you spec up the base M2 Mac Mini to a 16/500GB configuration, it is still $300 less than the M2 Pro version. It all comes down to how much you need the M2 Pro CPU and iGPU.
Well, I use my current Mac Mini for music production. My music production is extremely light. Meaning I don't go over 16 Tracks, I don't load it up with plug-ins. Simple, like Rock & Roll, Blues, light Jazz fusion. I use Garage Band and Presonus Studio One as my DAW. Here's the best part, my Mac Mini is a Late 2012, which I upgraded to 16GB Ram, and a 512 SSD, works great! I'd love to have a M2 Pro Base model, but $1299 is a bit heavy. Since upgrades aren't happening anymore on my Mac Mini, I'll probably go for the M2 with 16GB Ram, and get some external storage.
A little rambling but I listened very carefully to every word, and it helped me to decide on M2 Pro Entry Level and I’ll probably add on the 10GB Ethernet.
Nice video and for sure I agree with your recommendations. What I found funny and weird so, so that when Apple started building their own M* processor, those were "waooo" pure beast. And now we get the M2 and it is supposed to be crazy amazing. But everytime in reviews, it says that the M2 will be good for people with basic needs, the everyday browsing and word docs etc.... I mean, if the M2 is supposed to be a beast already, it should be doing way more than that. I'm not a professional and I like to work of my pictures and videos and doing some basic video editing for myself. And with some reviews it feels that I would need an M2 Pro to be confortable
I currently have the 2018 MAC Mini (2018) i5 3GHz 6-Core Intel w/8Gb RAM, I ordered the M2 Pro (base configuration) hoping that will future proof my investment for a number of years. Did I make the right choice? Reply
You forgot to mention 3 display monitor support. I orderred the M2 Pro Mac Mini to upgrade from the M1 MM with 8 gigs and 256 GB hard drive. Not enough memory when working with iMovie. I have had mac mini's from their beginning. I made a great Hackintosh but when video cards sky rocketted in price and the M1 silicon came out it was time to switch back. Love my iPhone and Mac Minis. Don't care much for the company (engineers - are great) itself anymore.
I am new to Apple products per say. I owned the Iphone 8 until I broke it and now have a 13pro. Now, I am in the market for the desk top. The current desktop I have is a Dell tower with 1TB or storage. My biggest thing for a desk top is storage. I do have a OneDrive and Cloud Drive account. I want something that is quick and has storage space. I don't do much more than surf web, manage budgets, banking etc.... What would be recommended?
I can confirm the base M2 Mac Mini is crap for video editing. I bought the base model and even upgraded to 16GB Ram. It’s CONSTANTLY stalling when editing video in Final Cut Pro (and I’m even using Proxy media). Constantly I’m getting the little spin wheel and I have to wait for it to catch up. Super frustrating. Just bought this a month ago and it is now past the return date. 😢
This is a much tougher choice compared to Macbooks. When switching from air to pro you get better screen, fans, more ports and more cpu/gpu cores. On mac mini however, for the same price difference you get only more cpu/gpu cores. Both have fans, both have nice ports, no screen upgrade of course. Regular M2 mini might be the best value at the present day, imho.
HELP ME PLEASE ..........im wanting the Mac Mini M2 pro. Should I have the base model or upgrade the processor or the ram? I'm doing photography, photo editing and short videos
Great video. Most reviews are from a content creator perspective. Do you have any feedback re: I'm about to start my Data Science training - will the M2 Mac Mini base model suffice for that? Thanks!
I am about to upgrade from a 2010 27" iMac so anything is an improvement. I currently use this iMac to edit photos with Affinity Photo which is really the most intensive thing I use it for. It's a bit slow but it still gets the job done. I can't really batch edit or multitask so I am looking forward to being able to do those things. I will have to purchase a new monitor, but I am going to keep the keyboard and mouse I already have, as well as a hub with a couple external drives because the 512GB SSD will probably not be enough. I am also getting the increased memory with the 16GB chip.
Hi & Happy New Year! I know it’s 11 months since this video, but thought if I could have your thoughts on which mini to buy. I currently have an old MacBook Pro 2012 & it’s slowly dying. I was waiting for the m3 chip, but now I just can’t wait any longer. I am torn between the Mac mini 24gb / 512gb and Mac mini pro 32gb / 512gb. There is a big price difference. So my question is, do you think the Mac mini 24gb would be powerful enough for Adobe Illustrator 3D imaging and larger illustrations? My current Mac is struggling with these, plus can’t get latest software updates. Thanx in advance! All suggestions appreciated.
Leaning toward the M1 Max Mac Studio which for (10core cpu, 24 core gpu, 16 core neural engine, with 32 GB ram and 1TB of storage it costs $2199). If you compare this to a similar m2 Mac mini with 12 core cpu, 19 core GPU, 16 core neural engine with 32GB memory and 1TB storage which also costs 2199 then it is not clear to me which might be better. I will wait to see some benchmarks because it really comes down to M2 12 core CPU, 19 core GPU 16 core neural engine vs M1 Max with 10 core cpu, 24 core GPU and 16 core neural engine). How must difference do 2 additional low power cores and the overclocked m2 make?
The Studio also has 10GB Ethernet, a larger cooling envelope (will that matter?), double the memory bus (200 Gb/s vs 400) and double the encoder/decoders. This will be the fight to watch, though 🤣
Dan, what is the difference in performance capability of the base M2 upgraded to 16gb/512gb vs the M2 Pro, other than the ports. Is it just the memory bandwidth and how much does that affect everyday use?
As an owner of an iMac (Core i5, late-2013) and an M1 Mac Mini, both of which were bought from Apple as refurbished models, the idea of both the M2 and M2Pro Mac Mini is quite intriguing. Max Tech did a review of the M2 MacBook Air using pseed test benchmarks several months ago. One of their benchmark tests revealed that the M2 substantially improved the snappyness of basic tasks, such as browser performance. It would be interesting to see if this observation holds up on the newly released Mac Mini models and MacBook Pros.
Basic tasks (like web browsing) need single core speed, you just look at the single core speed benchmark result and compare. You get a difference in percentage. So the question after that would be: is it worth paying X for Y percent difference in program Z?
Holy crap. You have the same issues I have. I use the base model M1 Mac Mini with eCamm for my Livestreams. I often times use chrome at the same time to do reactions on live. Between eCamm, chrome tabs, and recording with eCamm, it struggles sometimes. My M1 Mac Mini never gets touched unless I'm Livestreaming so I don't want to use my MacBook pro or Mac Studio. I'm wondering if a bumped up base model M2 is better or should I just go M2 Pro.
This didn't help me at all. Obviously we aren't going to be comparing the m2 with 8gb to the m2 pro... I wanted to know if I should save some money and get the m2 with 24gb of ram, 512gb of storage vs the m2 pro with 32gb of ram. The only difference is 2 cpu cores and 6 gpu cores and a bit of ram. Would have been great if you went into more in depth what workloads would benefit most from the extra gpu cores. etc basically you spent 6 minutes saying nothing...
I have an early 2015 MacBook Pro with 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, 16Gb of RAM and 2Tb internal SSD (upgraded by hand). Works fine, but I've been kindof waiting for this M2 Mini for a possible upgrade. I mainly write using Scrivener and do podcast editing with Descript. How much of a performance improvement could I expect with the M2 Pro Mac Mini (16Gb).
Apple is the only computer company that can get away with selling a 8GB ram computer for top dollars. Any computer literate person knows 8GB ram is not enough.
My 2015 Fusion Drive iMac is failing. The Mac mini seems like a good way to get into Apple silicon. Just need to figure out if basic M2 is sufficient for Lightroom and Photoshop
Great info MacRumors. I have ordered the new Mac Mini base model. I already have an Intel based 2019 Macbook book pro. But lately it has some issues regarding battery and touchbar. I enquired the repair costs and then decided I can get a new machine for the repair cost. My main purpose of using Mac mini is regular office work and personal work (all software development and some drone footage editing). Does Mac mini M2 works well for my purpose. Also I will be using Mac mini like more than 12 hours a day. How durable it would be? Thanks in advance.
The only thing i agree with you on, is getting a 8GB of RAM model. But other than that, for most people, the M2 will fly through pretty much any tasks. Though i also had issues with the Bluetooth capabilities on my M1 mini. Partially why i sold it.
when they didn't release one in fall, I figured it wouldn't be until mid to late 2023 before they got an update. I was really pushing the end of life on my 2013 mbp and bought an M1 over xmas with the extra cash-back deal. Mildly annoying knowing I could have saved a couple hundred dollars and been more future-proofed by waiting even a couple weeks (want to bet they deliberately waited until after the xmas return window ;-)? ). No hard feelings/regrets as that's how buying a computer always seems to work out. My M1 mini is still day and night vs my prev comp and I'm sure I'll get many good years out of it.
Started configuring a personal home music production studio late this past summer and decided to pause until new mini would be released. I waited through October like many others I know and of course nothing happened. I literally came within 5 days of just getting a full specked out M1 mini and being satisfied either way. BUT something told me to just hang on if possible. Because there wasn't the usual live online release event, I didn't even know about the new one until I saw RUclipsrs going nuts. Whew, what a bullet dodge because music production requires as much power as one can afford. Sounds like you are still good to go and are not that upset which is commendable. I would have been absolutely crushed as I need the maximum for the studio yet funds are as tight as in recent memory for our family. I am sure folks are going to chime in to Apple about the mode of release and ultra lack of leakage.
Thank you, for sharing your experience. If, this happen to me would take the computer back (less, I know Apple may only give me half my money back). Afterward, I would then buy the new M2 Pro "mac mini" and work it hard for the next 8-years (smile...smile).
You could sell the M1 Mac Mini on eBay and get the M2 instead… You will lose out a little bit of cash, but it might be worth it if you are planning to keep it for years…
I'm looking to buy a new Mac Mini M2. I use it for video editing short family vacation videos. For the price to remain comparable, I'm not sure if it's better to buy the following: M2 with 512 ssd and 24 gb ram or M2 Pro with the 512 ssd and only 16 gb ram. What's better 8 more gb of ram with the entry level M2 chip or stay at 16 gb and have the upgraded chip? Any help is appreciated.
I purchased a M1 $1200 model two years ago. I run photoshop and it is faster than I can think. However the two older computers are aged 10/12 and I am having trouble with safari for investment accounts. Added chrome not knowing it was google. Now thinking about a M2 and moving photo work to it. BTW one can move finished photos to external HD freeing up main computer. I would get the $1299 model again. Buy more than you need right now. Future is coming. Original purchase was made because 12 year old iMac kept quitting and needed a reboot 60 min, then 30, then 15 and I gave up. It sat for two years and I tried it again. I am looking at You Tube on it now and it has never quit since I turned it on 6 months ago. Situation is strange.
This video makes me wonder why Apple offered the M2 Pro chip in the mac mini (which doesn't have "pro" in its name) but didn't offer the M2 Pro chip in the Macbook Pro 13 (which has the "pro" in its name)?
The reason to get mini's is no stinkin batteries to deal with. Just plug it in and it works without hassle. If you live in places with no power interruption it is the best choice. The battery machines are personally a deal breaker. I don't do any kind of serious work on the go.
If you use the inefficient Windows OS, yes, 16GB RAM is the bare minimum. But Mac OS is way more efficient. 8GB RAM suits most people. My M1 8GB RAM obliterates my Intel 16GB RAM by a long shot. Not even close.
Do you think the m2 pro at 12 cores will have significantly increased single core performance over the 10 core variant? While a small difference is expected, anything other sounds counter intuitive yet isn't fully out of the realm of possibility.
@@Nick-kb6jd it means they use the same cores on the same clock speed for all the chip variants. I was expecting to see some difference between the 2 because of potential differences in cooling, power supply and stuff like that.
I am using a cheese grater that is maxed out and tricked out and am running 8 ip security cameras and it runs fine. I think I am going to wait until they upgrade the Studio and get the base model of that. I don't need anymore that the 256 storage as I have a Thunderbolt drive with 24TB in it. so maybe just more RAM.
if the complaint is just the HDD space why not add the hub with all the front side memory card and plug in ports? like 60 bucks and add in what ever SSD hard drive you want for way less than the 200 dollar upgrade for marginal increase? Not sure why people don't do this. very strange.
I have been flip-flopping since I ordered 512/16 M2 Base on Tuesday am.. Then rationalized that for 300 more, I could go pro and get the benefits , so I cancelled and ordered the Base M2 Pro. .. BUt do I need that ? would those 3 Benjis be better spent updating the M2 Base? I am on a 2015 iMac (27") now and while I run PS on occasion , that is about it .. I crunch some hefty Excel sheets, but I am sure base M2 could handle ..
Base M2 with upgrades to Ram and Storage can definitely handle your workflow today. That extra 300 would give you room to grow and do more tasks in the future. I’m trying to make the same choice. Either way it’s a great machine.
I am a videographer and i edit 4k video’s most of the time with premiere pro, my windows pc can not run this… so i need to upgrade. I was thinking buying the mac mini m2pro with 16gb and 512gb Or the m2 with 16gb(maybe24gb) and 1tb What do you think i should buy to edit the video’s i want without crashing?
@@macrumors Thank you. So basically I have to get a $999 M2 with 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD or the M2 PRO at $1299. What about the Macbook PRO? Should be the M2 PRO $2499, the one with 12 core CPU, 19 core GPU, 16GB RAM & 1TB?
I do a lot of photo development and retouching using RAW files high megapixel cameras (24-45Mpix) while watching RUclips clips like this one. When I've finished a set of phots I move them to storage on my NAS. - AI is becoming an important part at the end of my workflow, when I am putting the final polish on my best images - My current 5 years old Windows system running a COREi7 with 16GB of RAM gets bogged down in the AI part - In 2023 I'm expecting to move to a 60Mpix camera which is going to make matters worse I'm thinking of a M2 Pro Mac Mini with 16GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD.
The base model of all M2 Macs only has a 256 Gb none upgradable SSD. Not only is this too little but more importantly selecting this configuration will result in a slow system. This is because in all 256 Gb M2 Macs there is only one and not two Flash memory modules soldered onto its motherboard. This halves the rate of data transfer to the SSD by comparison with any entry level M1 Mac. I would like to beg all purchasers of any M2 Mac to pay an extra $200 for a 512 Gb SSD to create a balanced fast system.
While the base prace is fantastic, the upgrade costs are ridiculous, especially the storage. $200 for extra 256GB? You can get a 512GB nvme ssd for $30.
Yeah it's brutal... base model would be a great deal if it weren't starved of RAM and storage space (with slower storage too, for swap when RAM is full). It's choice between very good price but flawed, or good machine but expensive and not the greatest value. Just going one up on RAM, SSD, and CPU (8 to 16, 256 to 512, M2 to M2 Pro) more than doubles the price.
I'm looking for something I can do Logic Pro and video editing on. I'm wondering if any version of the Mac Mini will do those very well. I already have a great monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc.
So, interesting take on the entry level pro vs. maxing out M2 w/ram and a healthy drive...is the Pro processor so much better the extra room isn't needed?
I guess it would depend on the use of the computer. If you want 20 tabs open then you might want the ram. If you want cpu tasks then focus on that. If you’re a gamer then…we’ll then you need lots of everything.
@@saricubra2867 I don't mean just a gamer or I'd 100% agree with you. Just someone who games lots but prefers the OS of Apple. I used to play Crisis on my Mac Pro with Boot Camp. I was able to run regular graphics cards :) Unfortunately those days are gone. I still have my 2008/2009 Macs and they are going strong. I'm almost lamenting having to have bought the new Mac Mini Pro, though I'm sure it'll rock.
So I’m not top sure whats best for me. I need to replace my 2011 (yes its that old) iMac 27” I was wanted something a bit more portable - Yet I might use it for some photoshopping and video editing but day to day email Microsoft office. I was thinking about the MacBook Pro 16” (for screen size) now I’m not sure. Are they releasing a 15” Mac Air? And would that do me.
Trying to replace Mac Pro 5,1 for music mixing. Need PCIe slots. Maybe Mac Mini with thunderbolt 3/4 PCIe chassis? But I also need 64gig ram for sample library.
Nobody reviews if new M2 mini pro can output Dolby Atmos via HDMI port and connect directly to Sonos Arc or other Atmos enabled sound bar. spec says it support dolly atmos, so can it be connected via cable to sonos and also have sonos as a main speaker for the M2 mini?
Great info! MacRumors is always my go-to! I like to future proof as much as possible, so this really convinces me about the Pro vs. regular M2. Next, can we see the same video comparing the M2 Pro Mac Mini, specced out, with the Mac Studio (Max)?
Hello, i want to upgrade to the mac mini m2 but im concerned whether my 2 apple thunderbolt displays will work on it. Will the dual displays work either on the mac m2 or pro? Thanks!
This is interesting. I want to replace my awful 2017 spinning hard drive iMac with a laptop, but in the U.K. the entry level MBP has jumped in price by £250… there’s now no MacBook… so do I need to look at the MacBook Air with a 512 SSD and 8gb ram? Mainly use my Mac for Lightroom and editing GoPro footage in iMovie… so frustrating…
256GB of SSD storage in 2023 IS A CRIME Hell even 512GB of SSD storage is highway robbery ANYTHING BELOW 1TB of SSD storage on a Mac or even Windows machine in 2023 is RIDICULOUS considering that we have a photo and or video collection of memories of family times or a music library of music we either created ourselves or imported into iTunes or the music app from cd albums etc 255GB OR 512GB ain’t enough internal storage
@@accentontheoff Sorry for the late reply, I use it as my main desktop. Mainly programing, streaming and other school related work. I don't do video editing. I got 16 GB or ram because I have other macs and notice that is always the bottleneck in performance. My Macbook pro always runs out of memory and uses the hard disk for memory instead.
Note: there is no M2 Max Mac Mini. Meant to say "stick with M2 Mac" but you COULD spring up towards an M2 Max MacBook Pro if you really want 👀
I was gonna say if you want that chip, get the Mac studio. But then I realized it had a M1 chip and not a M2. I mean is there really any difference?
Funny, but all the Apple centric youtube channels think that everybody is a creator, needs the highest end everything, etc. The PC youtubers suffer the same thing, the gamming disease. Apple sells more of the base models of mac mini's, macbook airs. 99.9 percent of their business is towards the rest of us. I'm old now retired, worked in the car business all of my life, even at GM as trainer. The most common thing was people tented to overbuy, like a 15 way power seat, when they only drove it, set it once and never moved it. Apple of course is like any other company, it tries to market to youtube creators, influencers etc, so that you can maybe someday, be like that guy on mac rumors! Those of us that are based in the real world just want something that works, were no going to video edit in 8K in final cut pro etc.
Bravo 🎉!! 🫶🏾✌🏾
This is all true, but at the same time this is what these tech/apple channels are all about. They talk about the latest tech from apple, how to choose which model is right for you etc. and this year is no different.
I appreciate your comment.
Amen to that :)
Well said
The main reason I would go with the Pro Mac Mini, is the 4 ports. Want to see the benchmarks as well.
Yes, HDMI 2.1 too!
Same, that's what I'm thinking.
same
"Most importantly, if you run out of space on your Mac because you have only 256GB of storage it's gonna start eat into your virtual memory."
This is very false. If you run out of space, you're out of space and you will not be able to store anything unless you delete things or add external storage. Virtual memory is when you run out of RAM and your storage is used as much slower RAM.
I dont get it. I can edit 4K on my 2016 Macbook Pro and everything else with 8 GB RAM. Why is a machine coming out in 2023 not capable of it? Thats an info you are not offering to your viewers. How can such a machine only be ready for eMail reading? 99 Dollar Smartphone can read eMails. Please be more serious about your reviews! This review only disturbed and cofused me.
Exactly same concern. He literally mentioned that this $599 machine is capable of just reading emails 😂
That’s exactly my friend..
I’m finally replacing my 2008 and 2009 Mac Pros. I’ve decided on the M2 Pro Mac Mini with: 16GB ram, 12 cores, 19 core gpu, 1T of storage and 10G Ethernet. It’s all overkill for me but then my Mac Pro 4 core was overkill and lasted 14 years. The only reason I’m changing it out is the IOS is vulnerable to attacks because it’s not supported and some websites won’t even work with it. I will miss the 26T of storage on my Mac Pro but I don’t need access to all my videos all of the time. I have NAS drives as I bought them figuring my next Mac wouldn’t have that much internal storage. I was right.
Hi Dan, I am still running the 2012 Intel i7 16GB Mac Mini for basic Office Tasks. This thing is now 11 years old. So if longevity is something you’re looking for buy the best what you can get and enjoy it for many years to come!
That's my philosophy and that's why I buy the Mac Mini Pro 16/512.
This is funny I have the same 11 year old Mac Mini (late 2012, 2.6 GHz quad core with 16GB eam and 1TB Fusion drive) that I maxed out. Still works for most of my needs but can’t go past Catalina MacOS. I’m debating going with base model vs Pro. I’m leaning towards the Mac Mini Pro but the base model price tag is sure attractive. I can get the M2 for $499 with education discount vs $1199 for Pro. Tough decision
I have a Mac Pro 2008&2009 and they are still going. The problem is Apple stops supporting them and there comes a point where the browser also no longer support the old OS. I'm at that point and lots of websites won't even load up on my computer so I've had to order a new computer. My Mac Pros likely would have kept going for years and still worked fine. I can put 64GB of ram in them even and they are 14 years old! They have 25TB of storage in them and can be updated in numerous ways. Probably why Apple moved away from offering cheaper Mac Pros :(
@@cvdavisbuying new computer for web browsing is insane. Technically you should be able to compile Firefox yourself for the machine. If something works it should not be changed for the sake of environment
16 GB RAM is needed even for basic users. 256 GB storage is fine for most users, and iCloud storage is super cheap. A fast usb-c flash drive/stick in addition, and most people will be fine. So be it if transfers are a bit slower. How often do people transfer hundreds of GB? Do not overspec your Apple devices. It costs way to much, and you get less value for money. None of the spec-steps are worth more than 1/3 of what Apple charges for them.
In a few years I will buy a used M chipped Mini with 64gb ram, 2TB SSD. All will be well in the world. My music production plugins will run wild
I can't wait any longer on my studio - pulling the trigger now and letting it rip!! 😁
RE: 8GB of RAM on models. This can cause filesystem performance hits. While SSD storage is blazing fast it is still not as fast as RAM. Many applications are written, especially ones that write data out to disk, with the assumption that they can write out as fast as possible and the OS will maintain enough filesystem cache for this to work out pleasantly for everybody. Desktops aren't my thing, but in the database/server world you can reasonably plan on half of your system ram being used for the filesystem cache. 8 GB is pretty paltry considering that Chrome can easily consume 4 GB on its own. No matter what CPU you have, the amount of filesystem cache will ultimately be the bottleneck. I suspect this is why your podcast recording sessions had drop outs - the app delivered the data effectively, but the OS was not able to scribble it down to the disk in time.
Thanks for the video. I bought a M2 Mac mini with 16 Go of ram and 256 Go SSD because this machine will be a secondary computer (the primary being a Fedora-based PC). I'll plug a 500 Go external SSD as well. François
Hello there! I'm also a GNU/Linux user, and I bought the 16gb upgrade for my M2 Mini. I'm switching to that computer full-time though. Very excited about the Asahi project
Straight, clear and to the point. Excellent preview and recommendation.
It's amazing how fast a $599 computer ($499 with educational pricing) becomes a $1299 computer.
With my 2018 Mac mini, I have to use a significant amount of tricks to make 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage usable for my work - 4K video editing, Web Development, and App Development. This was barely tolerable 4+ years ago. Two generations later, I'm surprised that 8GB RAM / 256 GB Storage is still an option.
Yet, this lets the customer decide what's important to them.
I've been fine using a 4gb 2010 MBA. Exporting is slow but I can leave it while taking a coffee break. Never had to go beyond 720p. But can't wait to edit on M1 must be super fast. I'd still prefer to stay at 720p though. :)
@Garrus Vakarian For $1600 bucks, i built a PC with 2TB of M2 PCIe MVMe SSDs, 32GB of RAM and Intel Core i7-12700K chip with very similar perfomance to that M2 Pro.
Mac Mini looks more well rounded saving a lot of money for more storage and memory.
I think you will find that the M1 can do more with less memory than the intel. I have a 16GB Intel and an 8GB M1 and, surprisingly, some things, like running Xcode, run better on the M1. Also @Garrus Vakarian - you do not know what you are talking about. The M2 Pro for $300 more than similarly configured M1 has 50% more performance CPUs (4 to 6), 60% more GPUs (10 to 16) and double the memory bandwidth (100 Gb/s to 200). Time will tell, but I suspect that may be the machine to buy for most Professionals. The additional power in the full on M2 Pro or even the Studio will only be necessary for people paying for “specs”.
8gb ram wasn’t enough for me to run 4 tabs in chrome and 1-2 tabs in safari. I had to close tabs, if I wanted to check my email I’d have to close everything else or it would swap like crazy. I got 16 go now and I tend to sit around 10gb ram used and now swap
@@garrusvakarian87092 more cores and 6 more gpu cores is barely better?
Hmm, you are wrong. The M1 Mac Mini has 2 128GB SSDs - That was a problem on the MacBook Pro 13", not the Mini. We don't know yet if it is a problem on the M2 256GB Mini yet. I have a base model M1 Mini and tested it myself, I'm sure you could have as well.
Thank you for this comment! I have seen the single SSD comment regarding the 256gb M1 Mini repeated in several RUclips videos and was about to upgrade to 512 based on that. You just saved me $200. Thank you for the insight!
I can relate! I started coding a year ago on my m1 8gb 256 and it was fine. I got my 1st remote role as a software engineer, and now I have to monitor the ram since I'm working on small personal projects and company products on the same mini, I'm now considering the m2 pro 32 gb 512. Also just had my 1st kid so I may wanna hop back into photography and some short videos so I should 100% "future-proof" myself with this next purchase.
watch out, that 512GB is now just one nand chip so slow.
I'm exactly in the same shoes as you, I'll be coding heavily and also use it for other purposes like photo editing and entertainment. I'm planning to get M2 pro mini with 16GB ram and 512GB SSD
@@pauljazzman408 it's still plenty fast & you 100% won't notice
You started coding and got a job just a year later? That’s damn impressive
You don't necessarily have to increase the storage for $200 when you have the option to connect external SSDs or even external NVME SSDs. You can put those $200 for 16gb ram instead.
The 512 has faster speed though.
Thank you so much brother. Your suggestion is really helpful for me. I just bought M2 pro Mac mini. Its outstanding like you . Thanks again...
surprised you didn't touch on the fact the base model is being shipped with a HDMI 2.0 port and the pro model has a 2.1 port. 4k at 60 vs 4k at 120 is a huge deal for usability of a desktop.
99% of RUclipsrs are amateurs. Their goal is to push out content as fast as they can and as much as they can. Quality of information? Meh.
as someone who would use that for music production and maybe coding, is 120 hz necessary? serious question
For me the 4K@144hz option is decisive for the M2 Pro.
What you mean? M2 doesn’t do that? Surely M1 can no?
Agreed!!
@@cronanlavelle7731 no both M1 and M2 base Mac mini go up to most 4k60. If you want higher refresh rate gotta get the M2 Pro Mac Mini
Same especially since the GeForce Now update to the RTX 4080 Ultimate tier. 🔥
I are there still scaling issues if you opt for a 27” 4K monitor with the new models?
I had pretty much decided on a 1440p monitor to avoid 4K scaling on a 27”
Thanks! Made my life easier to choose 😊👍🏻
… even after 1 year since this came out.
I have a maxed-out M1 mini and it still works fine, so I think I’ll stick with it until the M3 comes out.
8 GB RAM and 256 GB storage are laughably low for a desktop. I'd never go for that. Storage I suppose you can use external storage for, but at least get 16 GB RAM.
I just upgraded from my 2019 MacBook Pro i9-9880 to a M2 Pro Mac Mini. I needed the 1TB ssd so my prices were higher
I just ordered the M2 Mac mini with 16 GB of storage, 1 TB SSD and the Studio Display.
Does it handle ZOOM without overheating?
I have MacBook Air M1 second tiered one with 8 ram 8gpu 512 connected to my Dell 34” monitor. I was thinking of getting the Mac mini M2 base model to have a dedicated desktop and free up my MacBook Air. You think it’s a good idea or waste of cash?
Even if you spec up the base M2 Mac Mini to a 16/500GB configuration, it is still $300 less than the M2 Pro version. It all comes down to how much you need the M2 Pro CPU and iGPU.
Well, I use my current Mac Mini for music production. My music production is extremely light. Meaning I don't go over 16 Tracks, I don't load it up with plug-ins. Simple, like Rock & Roll, Blues, light Jazz fusion. I use Garage Band and Presonus Studio One as my DAW. Here's the best part, my Mac Mini is a Late 2012, which I upgraded to 16GB Ram, and a 512 SSD, works great! I'd love to have a M2 Pro Base model, but $1299 is a bit heavy. Since upgrades aren't happening anymore on my Mac Mini, I'll probably go for the M2 with 16GB Ram, and get some external storage.
A little rambling but I listened very carefully to every word, and it helped me to decide on M2 Pro Entry Level and I’ll probably add on the 10GB Ethernet.
Nice video and for sure I agree with your recommendations. What I found funny and weird so, so that when Apple started building their own M* processor, those were "waooo" pure beast. And now we get the M2 and it is supposed to be crazy amazing. But everytime in reviews, it says that the M2 will be good for people with basic needs, the everyday browsing and word docs etc.... I mean, if the M2 is supposed to be a beast already, it should be doing way more than that. I'm not a professional and I like to work of my pictures and videos and doing some basic video editing for myself. And with some reviews it feels that I would need an M2 Pro to be confortable
Dude, I browse the web and watch RUclips. I like the form factor and ecosystem. Mac mini is plenty for me. My upgrade is to 16gb.
I currently have the 2018 MAC Mini (2018) i5 3GHz 6-Core Intel w/8Gb RAM, I ordered the M2 Pro (base configuration) hoping that will future proof my investment for a number of years. Did I make the right choice?
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You need at least 16gb of ram to be safe in the future
You forgot to mention 3 display monitor support. I orderred the M2 Pro Mac Mini to upgrade from the M1 MM with 8 gigs and 256 GB hard drive. Not enough memory when working with iMovie. I have had mac mini's from their beginning. I made a great Hackintosh but when video cards sky rocketted in price and the M1 silicon came out it was time to switch back. Love my iPhone and Mac Minis. Don't care much for the company (engineers - are great) itself anymore.
I am new to Apple products per say. I owned the Iphone 8 until I broke it and now have a 13pro. Now, I am in the market for the desk top.
The current desktop I have is a Dell tower with 1TB or storage. My biggest thing for a desk top is storage. I do have a OneDrive and Cloud Drive account. I want something that is quick and has storage space. I don't do much more than surf web, manage budgets, banking etc.... What would be recommended?
I can confirm the base M2 Mac Mini is crap for video editing. I bought the base model and even upgraded to 16GB Ram. It’s CONSTANTLY stalling when editing video in Final Cut Pro (and I’m even using Proxy media). Constantly I’m getting the little spin wheel and I have to wait for it to catch up. Super frustrating. Just bought this a month ago and it is now past the return date. 😢
This is a much tougher choice compared to Macbooks.
When switching from air to pro you get better screen, fans, more ports and more cpu/gpu cores.
On mac mini however, for the same price difference you get only more cpu/gpu cores.
Both have fans, both have nice ports, no screen upgrade of course.
Regular M2 mini might be the best value at the present day, imho.
HELP ME PLEASE ..........im wanting the Mac Mini M2 pro. Should I have the base model or upgrade the processor or the ram? I'm doing photography, photo editing and short videos
Great video. Most reviews are from a content creator perspective. Do you have any feedback re: I'm about to start my Data Science training - will the M2 Mac Mini base model suffice for that? Thanks!
I am about to upgrade from a 2010 27" iMac so anything is an improvement. I currently use this iMac to edit photos with Affinity Photo which is really the most intensive thing I use it for. It's a bit slow but it still gets the job done. I can't really batch edit or multitask so I am looking forward to being able to do those things. I will have to purchase a new monitor, but I am going to keep the keyboard and mouse I already have, as well as a hub with a couple external drives because the 512GB SSD will probably not be enough. I am also getting the increased memory with the 16GB chip.
I'm waiting for the M2 Mac Studio. I'm beyond excited for it!
I am going to be a start learning Data Science. I am not a Laptop fan, Which Mac Mini would you recommend. I would need GPU time to time
Hi & Happy New Year! I know it’s 11 months since this video, but thought if I could have your thoughts on which mini to buy. I currently have an old MacBook Pro 2012 & it’s slowly dying. I was waiting for the m3 chip, but now I just can’t wait any longer. I am torn between the Mac mini 24gb / 512gb and Mac mini pro 32gb / 512gb. There is a big price difference. So my question is, do you think the Mac mini 24gb would be powerful enough for Adobe Illustrator 3D imaging and larger illustrations? My current Mac is struggling with these, plus can’t get latest software updates. Thanx in advance! All suggestions appreciated.
Or get the base 8gb for now, to get normal tasks done & wait for the m3? Is it worth waiting for?
Did you pull the trigger? based on what I see here you should get the Pro if you will be running more than 2 monitors.
Leaning toward the M1 Max Mac Studio which for (10core cpu, 24 core gpu, 16 core neural engine, with 32 GB ram and 1TB of storage it costs $2199). If you compare this to a similar m2 Mac mini with 12 core cpu, 19 core GPU, 16 core neural engine with 32GB memory and 1TB storage which also costs 2199 then it is not clear to me which might be better. I will wait to see some benchmarks because it really comes down to M2 12 core CPU, 19 core GPU 16 core neural engine vs M1 Max with 10 core cpu, 24 core GPU and 16 core neural engine). How must difference do 2 additional low power cores and the overclocked m2 make?
The Studio also has 10GB Ethernet, a larger cooling envelope (will that matter?), double the memory bus (200 Gb/s vs 400) and double the encoder/decoders. This will be the fight to watch, though 🤣
I have $2000. Is it recommended to take the highest-spec Mac Mini or go to Mac Studio? what do you think ?
Dan, what is the difference in performance capability of the base M2 upgraded to 16gb/512gb vs the M2 Pro, other than the ports. Is it just the memory bandwidth and how much does that affect everyday use?
As an owner of an iMac (Core i5, late-2013) and an M1 Mac Mini, both of which were bought from Apple as refurbished models, the idea of both the M2 and M2Pro Mac Mini is quite intriguing. Max Tech did a review of the M2 MacBook Air using pseed test benchmarks several months ago. One of their benchmark tests revealed that the M2 substantially improved the snappyness of basic tasks, such as browser performance. It would be interesting to see if this observation holds up on the newly released Mac Mini models and MacBook Pros.
so is the regular m1 unbelievably snappy or not ... if so why upgrade ?
Basic tasks (like web browsing) need single core speed, you just look at the single core speed benchmark result and compare. You get a difference in percentage. So the question after that would be: is it worth paying X for Y percent difference in program Z?
Holy crap. You have the same issues I have. I use the base model M1 Mac Mini with eCamm for my Livestreams. I often times use chrome at the same time to do reactions on live. Between eCamm, chrome tabs, and recording with eCamm, it struggles sometimes. My M1 Mac Mini never gets touched unless I'm Livestreaming so I don't want to use my MacBook pro or Mac Studio. I'm wondering if a bumped up base model M2 is better or should I just go M2 Pro.
This didn't help me at all.
Obviously we aren't going to be comparing the m2 with 8gb to the m2 pro...
I wanted to know if I should save some money and get the m2 with 24gb of ram, 512gb of storage vs the m2 pro with 32gb of ram. The only difference is 2 cpu cores and 6 gpu cores and a bit of ram.
Would have been great if you went into more in depth what workloads would benefit most from the extra gpu cores. etc
basically you spent 6 minutes saying nothing...
I have an early 2015 MacBook Pro with 3.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, 16Gb of RAM and 2Tb internal SSD (upgraded by hand). Works fine, but I've been kindof waiting for this M2 Mini for a possible upgrade. I mainly write using Scrivener and do podcast editing with Descript. How much of a performance improvement could I expect with the M2 Pro Mac Mini (16Gb).
Suppose your only intensive use is ZOOM (which overheats my Intel Mac Mini)? Is plain M2 OK?
Apple is the only computer company that can get away with selling a 8GB ram computer for top dollars. Any computer literate person knows 8GB ram is not enough.
My 2015 Fusion Drive iMac is failing. The Mac mini seems like a good way to get into Apple silicon. Just need to figure out if basic M2 is sufficient for Lightroom and Photoshop
I have the M2 iPad Pro and I use Lightroom quite a bit with no issues so far. Everything runs so smoothly
Great info MacRumors. I have ordered the new Mac Mini base model. I already have an Intel based 2019 Macbook book pro. But lately it has some issues regarding battery and touchbar. I enquired the repair costs and then decided I can get a new machine for the repair cost. My main purpose of using Mac mini is regular office work and personal work (all software development and some drone footage editing). Does Mac mini M2 works well for my purpose. Also I will be using Mac mini like more than 12 hours a day. How durable it would be? Thanks in advance.
It'll work great for what you want. The smallest size SSD (solid state drive) is slower than larger drives but most people wouldn't know it.
The only thing i agree with you on, is getting a 8GB of RAM model. But other than that, for most people, the M2 will fly through pretty much any tasks. Though i also had issues with the Bluetooth capabilities on my M1 mini. Partially why i sold it.
Apparently that has been completely fixed this year
not sure if this video was recommending the best mac mini for each usecase or just being a trap for falling into apples upselling strategy ....
when they didn't release one in fall, I figured it wouldn't be until mid to late 2023 before they got an update. I was really pushing the end of life on my 2013 mbp and bought an M1 over xmas with the extra cash-back deal.
Mildly annoying knowing I could have saved a couple hundred dollars and been more future-proofed by waiting even a couple weeks (want to bet they deliberately waited until after the xmas return window ;-)? ).
No hard feelings/regrets as that's how buying a computer always seems to work out. My M1 mini is still day and night vs my prev comp and I'm sure I'll get many good years out of it.
Started configuring a personal home music production studio late this past summer and decided to pause until new mini would be released. I waited through October like many others I know and of course nothing happened. I literally came within 5 days of just getting a full specked out M1 mini and being satisfied either way. BUT something told me to just hang on if possible. Because there wasn't the usual live online release event, I didn't even know about the new one until I saw RUclipsrs going nuts. Whew, what a bullet dodge because music production requires as much power as one can afford. Sounds like you are still good to go and are not that upset which is commendable. I would have been absolutely crushed as I need the maximum for the studio yet funds are as tight as in recent memory for our family. I am sure folks are going to chime in to Apple about the mode of release and ultra lack of leakage.
Thank you, for sharing your experience. If, this happen to me would take the computer back (less, I know Apple may only give me half my money back). Afterward, I would then buy the new M2 Pro "mac mini" and work it hard for the next 8-years (smile...smile).
You could sell the M1 Mac Mini on eBay and get the M2 instead… You will lose out a little bit of cash, but it might be worth it if you are planning to keep it for years…
I'm looking to buy a new Mac Mini M2. I use it for video editing short family vacation videos. For the price to remain comparable, I'm not sure if it's better to buy the following:
M2 with 512 ssd and 24 gb ram
or
M2 Pro with the 512 ssd and only 16 gb ram.
What's better 8 more gb of ram with the entry level M2 chip or stay at 16 gb and have the upgraded chip? Any help is appreciated.
i will choose the m2 24gb.
RAM will help with every graphics work
I purchased a M1 $1200 model two years ago. I run photoshop and it is faster than I can think. However the two older computers are aged 10/12 and I am having trouble with safari for investment accounts. Added chrome not knowing it was google. Now thinking about a M2 and moving photo work to it. BTW one can move finished photos to external HD freeing up main computer. I would get the $1299 model again. Buy more than you need right now. Future is coming.
Original purchase was made because 12 year old iMac kept quitting and needed a reboot 60 min, then 30, then 15 and I gave up.
It sat for two years and I tried it again. I am looking at You Tube on it now and it has never quit since I turned it on 6 months ago. Situation is strange.
Content aside which is good, I love your audio quality!
This video makes me wonder why Apple offered the M2 Pro chip in the mac mini (which doesn't have "pro" in its name) but didn't offer the M2 Pro chip in the Macbook Pro 13 (which has the "pro" in its name)?
Because the MBP 13” is basically the MacBook of old. It’s not really the pro model (that’s the 14” and 16” MBPs)
I'm buying the base version Mac Mini just to see if MacOS is for me (already have a high end PC).
The reason to get mini's is no stinkin batteries to deal with. Just plug it in and it works without hassle. If you live in places with no power interruption it is the best choice. The battery machines are personally a deal breaker. I don't do any kind of serious work on the go.
16Gb RAM and 512Gb SSD are your bare minimum. 32Gb RAM is recommended.
If you use the inefficient Windows OS, yes, 16GB RAM is the bare minimum. But Mac OS is way more efficient. 8GB RAM suits most people. My M1 8GB RAM obliterates my Intel 16GB RAM by a long shot. Not even close.
I get by fine on 8 GB of RAM, and I do pretty heavy photo editing.
Do you think the m2 pro at 12 cores will have significantly increased single core performance over the 10 core variant? While a small difference is expected, anything other sounds counter intuitive yet isn't fully out of the realm of possibility.
I want to know this too
Did you find out?
@@Nick-kb6jd not yet, I'll let you know!
@@Nick-kb6jd on geekbench at least it looks like it's not only the same on 10 and 12 cores on the m2 pro but even the same as on the base model m2
@@alexsch5583 that doesn’t make sense for it to be the same single core scote as the base m2. Does it?
@@Nick-kb6jd it means they use the same cores on the same clock speed for all the chip variants. I was expecting to see some difference between the 2 because of potential differences in cooling, power supply and stuff like that.
I am using a cheese grater that is maxed out and tricked out and am running 8 ip security cameras and it runs fine. I think I am going to wait until they upgrade the Studio and get the base model of that. I don't need anymore that the 256 storage as I have a Thunderbolt drive with 24TB in it. so maybe just more RAM.
I ordered the Mac mini M2 pro. Will it be enough to handle 4K multicam editing FCP?
Defo
if the complaint is just the HDD space why not add the hub with all the front side memory card and plug in ports? like 60 bucks and add in what ever SSD hard drive you want for way less than the 200 dollar upgrade for marginal increase? Not sure why people don't do this. very strange.
Which one is good for someone that wants to hook up three or four monitors doing stocks daytrading?
I have been flip-flopping since I ordered 512/16 M2 Base on Tuesday am.. Then rationalized that for 300 more, I could go pro and get the benefits , so I cancelled and ordered the Base M2 Pro. .. BUt do I need that ? would those 3 Benjis be better spent updating the M2 Base? I am on a 2015 iMac (27") now and while I run PS on occasion , that is about it .. I crunch some hefty Excel sheets, but I am sure base M2 could handle ..
Base M2 with upgrades to Ram and Storage can definitely handle your workflow today. That extra 300 would give you room to grow and do more tasks in the future. I’m trying to make the same choice. Either way it’s a great machine.
Good vid ! M2 vs M2 pro for music production ?
I am a videographer and i edit 4k video’s most of the time with premiere pro, my windows pc can not run this… so i need to upgrade.
I was thinking buying the mac mini m2pro with 16gb and 512gb
Or the m2 with 16gb(maybe24gb) and 1tb
What do you think i should buy to edit the video’s i want without crashing?
Which configuration would be recommended for a first time mac user and web developer as profession?
If you can swing the m2 pro I would do that. Or at least bump that RAM up on the m2 worst case
@@macrumors Thank you. So basically I have to get a $999 M2 with 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD or the M2 PRO at $1299. What about the Macbook PRO? Should be the M2 PRO $2499, the one with 12 core CPU, 19 core GPU, 16GB RAM & 1TB?
I do a lot of photo development and retouching using RAW files high megapixel cameras (24-45Mpix) while watching RUclips clips like this one. When I've finished a set of phots I move them to storage on my NAS.
- AI is becoming an important part at the end of my workflow, when I am putting the final polish on my best images
- My current 5 years old Windows system running a COREi7 with 16GB of RAM gets bogged down in the AI part
- In 2023 I'm expecting to move to a 60Mpix camera which is going to make matters worse
I'm thinking of a M2 Pro Mac Mini with 16GB of RAM and a 512GB SSD.
The base model of all M2 Macs only has a 256 Gb none upgradable SSD. Not only is this too little but more importantly selecting this configuration will result in a slow system. This is because in all 256 Gb M2 Macs there is only one and not two Flash memory modules soldered onto its motherboard. This halves the rate of data transfer to the SSD by comparison with any entry level M1 Mac. I would like to beg all purchasers of any M2 Mac to pay an extra $200 for a 512 Gb SSD to create a balanced fast system.
While the base prace is fantastic, the upgrade costs are ridiculous, especially the storage. $200 for extra 256GB? You can get a 512GB nvme ssd for $30.
Yeah it's brutal... base model would be a great deal if it weren't starved of RAM and storage space (with slower storage too, for swap when RAM is full).
It's choice between very good price but flawed, or good machine but expensive and not the greatest value. Just going one up on RAM, SSD, and CPU (8 to 16, 256 to 512, M2 to M2 Pro) more than doubles the price.
I'm looking for something I can do Logic Pro and video editing on. I'm wondering if any version of the Mac Mini will do those very well. I already have a great monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc.
So, interesting take on the entry level pro vs. maxing out M2 w/ram and a healthy drive...is the Pro processor so much better the extra room isn't needed?
I guess it would depend on the use of the computer. If you want 20 tabs open then you might want the ram. If you want cpu tasks then focus on that. If you’re a gamer then…we’ll then you need lots of everything.
@@cvdavis yeah, exactly.
@@cvdavis If he is a gamer, he would try Linux on the Mac because MacOS for gaming is terrible.
@@saricubra2867 I don't mean just a gamer or I'd 100% agree with you. Just someone who games lots but prefers the OS of Apple. I used to play Crisis on my Mac Pro with Boot Camp. I was able to run regular graphics cards :) Unfortunately those days are gone. I still have my 2008/2009 Macs and they are going strong. I'm almost lamenting having to have bought the new Mac Mini Pro, though I'm sure it'll rock.
I have a 2012 Mac Mini. Should I move to the M2?
So I’m not top sure whats best for me. I need to replace my 2011 (yes its that old) iMac 27” I was wanted something a bit more portable - Yet I might use it for some photoshopping and video editing but day to day email Microsoft office. I was thinking about the MacBook Pro 16” (for screen size) now I’m not sure. Are they releasing a 15” Mac Air? And would that do me.
Trying to replace Mac Pro 5,1 for music mixing. Need PCIe slots. Maybe Mac Mini with thunderbolt 3/4 PCIe chassis? But I also need 64gig ram for sample library.
Can I use the Dell 24 inch touchscreen monitor on this ? Does touchscreen driver work ?
Nobody reviews if new M2 mini pro can output Dolby Atmos via HDMI port and connect directly to Sonos Arc or other Atmos enabled sound bar. spec says it support dolly atmos, so can it be connected via cable to sonos and also have sonos as a main speaker for the M2 mini?
Great info! MacRumors is always my go-to! I like to future proof as much as possible, so this really convinces me about the Pro vs. regular M2. Next, can we see the same video comparing the M2 Pro Mac Mini, specced out, with the Mac Studio (Max)?
What’s the max internet speed for the new MacBook Pro 16” Pro version? I have AT&T Fiber that goes up to 2Gs.
ordered the pro chip. 12/19 core. but the base at $599 is a steal. and students get it for $499 !!!!!!!! 🤯
Hello, i want to upgrade to the mac mini m2 but im concerned whether my 2 apple thunderbolt displays will work on it. Will the dual displays work either on the mac m2 or pro? Thanks!
Can I run 4 external displays/4 projectors + the HDMI for a monitor on the M2, or do I need a higher chip?
I have an M2 pro Mac mini. It's fast. I love it.
"Maybe that is a question you should ask Chy-na." DJT
Hahahahah 😂
This is interesting. I want to replace my awful 2017 spinning hard drive iMac with a laptop, but in the U.K. the entry level MBP has jumped in price by £250… there’s now no MacBook… so do I need to look at the MacBook Air with a 512 SSD and 8gb ram? Mainly use my Mac for Lightroom and editing GoPro footage in iMovie… so frustrating…
What would be recommended for 3d design work using Autodesk Fusion 360?
mac mini m2 pro 16 gb 1 tb
mac mini m2 24 gb 1 tb
which is better for final cut pro editing please suggest me asap.
256GB of SSD storage in 2023 IS A CRIME
Hell even 512GB of SSD storage is highway robbery
ANYTHING BELOW 1TB of SSD storage on a Mac or even Windows machine in 2023 is RIDICULOUS considering that we have a photo and or video collection of memories of family times or a music library of music we either created ourselves or imported into iTunes or the music app from cd albums etc
255GB OR 512GB ain’t enough internal storage
It cost 499 you know apple does this to make money
m2 mac mini 24 gb or m2 pro 16 gb which is better for final cut pro editing
Thanks for fixing the audio, no more background hum!
Need a solid computer for home studio to run pro tools for recording audio and FL studios for production
Neither, both my 2018 intel & M1 have the same bluetooth issues. Not falling for it again 🤣
What if i need to do some light content creation and school work should i get a 8gb and and a external hard drive?
Could you compare M1 16GB 256 ssd vs M2 16 GB 256 ssd ?
I’m curious to see if there is 1 256 nand chip or 2 128 nand in the base model
Just one 256 and the 512gb model macs are just one 512gb. Apples expects us to buy 1tb ssd models to get the same speeds as m1 macs ssds
I have an M1 Mini with 16 Gb of Ram and 1 tb SSD. It is the best computer I ever had.
What do you use it for if I may ask.
@@accentontheoff Sorry for the late reply, I use it as my main desktop. Mainly programing, streaming and other school related work. I don't do video editing. I got 16 GB or ram because I have other macs and notice that is always the bottleneck in performance. My Macbook pro always runs out of memory and uses the hard disk for memory instead.
@@House_Of_Cards_ Got it, thanks for the reply.