Redefining "The First Grinder" for Home Espresso: Mysterious sub-$100 Amazon Grinder
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- In this video, we want to go down the rabbit hole to answer "what kind of grinder should I get first?". Let's get down to the wire to see my take on this topic, with some sprinkles of my past experience starting out as an aspiring home barista.
At Entek Coffee I have been discussing many topics regarding setting up a system that can help you make better espresso at home. This topic often includes the flow, technique, gear and how to apply it in your home during your spare time. Arguably, the gear part will make the most difference, especially for the fact that there is a huge quality variation when you go really low down the budget, something that many home baristas will be limited to. The grinder is undoubtedly the most important part of your espresso setup, so I went ahead and go with a deeper dive on it than I previously ever did.
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Well done. Good idea. Love and peace. Tim
Nice information dude! Superb!
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There's a lot of decent 2nd hand grinders you can acquire from people who thought maybe they'd be into coffee (especially during 2020-2022) but have realised they're not and now want to move them on. Breville/Sage is probably the biggest, other OEMs depending on where you live
Definitely an option too! I saw a secondhand Baratza sette 30 a while ago, but it was on the 125-175 USD range. That sure can be an option if you can stretch the budget a bit.
For the beginners that dont want to spend too much there are also good manual hand grinders for under 100$. Also I am a beginner myself on a strict budget and I am currently using a Gaggia md15 with DIY shims and it gets the job done (fairly well tbh). Was also thinking of getting the MHW3Bomber R3 grinder (i think that i got the name right this time) because it seems good for the price, but I am not in a hurry. It's new so it is going to take some time for people to start finding out the flaws. Also living in a country that doesn't have access to Amazon can be pretty challenging so mostly of my stuff comes from trusted aliexpress stores.
Gaggia's entry to budget was very exciting, they're known to build affordable but extremely reliable machines. The MD15 is one that I'd like to try, but as the time of speaking it's very hard to get in my country.
You can't beat manual grinders' value with electric grinders, though. They're just very different machines. My $149.99 1zpresso J-Max is built like a tank and grinds the same class of consistency and accuracy as my Eureka Mignon (maybe even better). It's not even a close match to these electric ones for espresso.
@EntekCoffee tbh Gaggia md15 was the only thing that was available to me because of the import taxes and stuff making the 1zpresso and similar grinders not worth considering. The stock Gaggia md15 isn't the best, but with a bit of fiddling and a bit of DIY-ing, because I can't get the official shims where I live, I got it to the level where it grinds fine enough for a good espresso. 👍
I'm not gonna lie, hanf drinkers suck when you want more than one shot and you want to get shots put fast. I'd get a budget electric grinder for $200 to 300 before I do hand grinders again. Hand grinders are a waste of time in getting thru your workflow. And besides, good hand grinders will usually cost the same as a budget electric grinder ....
yea, i just bought a $500+ df64 gen2 grinder, it does not help with the latte art at all! hahaha. The shot actually does taste better than when using the stock breville barista express grinder and has less channeling. Now i just need a better espresso machine to go with it.
Hmm... That's pretty strange, but flat burrs are known to be a little hard to tame at first. I'm not sure if it's related to that but it could be.
I've wasted a lot of money on cheap electric grinders over the years. They break or they just don't do the job. If you can't afford a good electric one you're better off with a hand grinder which you can get a good espresso one for $100
I'm actually trying to go as low-tech as possible with my setup as cheap electronic stuff just does not tend to last.
I do have a DF83 but I need new burrs for it which is another huge expense so just using my hand grinder for now. it works fine. Kind of regret buying that in the 1st place
Been using this mysterious grinder for a while now (around 2 and a half months) and has still been rock solid. This was also the same impression I had with my old ZD-10, so as I said, I'm afraid sample size is too small for now. I'll have to check other options.
Mind you if you can tell me what exact grinders yoi have an experience with?
@@EntekCoffee good you've found something you like then. it's fine to use entry level stuff til you decide how much effort and money you want to invest. The thing is it can end up being more expensive in the long run if you buy things that you constantly want to upgrade. I used a cheap Baratza grinder for a long time that didn't really get the beans fine enough. I figured it was good enough but that was a mistake. I've had a couple from Breville that didn't last at all. The one I had from Ascaso for a while was probably the best of the "cheap grinders" (still cost a few hundred dollars) but the burrs were really too small to grind well.
Been doing this for 20 years I've learned that certain grind quality is just required and there's a reason "cheap" electric grinders are cheap.
I do find the quality of grind I get from my hand grinder is right up with expensive ones like the DF83 and I don't really mind the effort so I recommend that if people want to save money.
I believe there is also a 54 mm version of the DF83 that goes pretty cheap now. That seems like an excellent burr set for that price if you really need an electric one.