How Far Will RMC Go? | Coaster Theory
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Today we take a look at beloved American manufacturer Rocky Mountain Construction, or RMC for short. RMC stepped on scene with their hybrid coaster design back nine years ago in 2011. The company originally repaired and maintained older wooden coasters, however, after coming back to the same coasters year after year, they knew there was a better way to do it. What if they took off the old wood track that cost the parks a lot in repairs, and replaced it with a modern steel track… This was the beginning of RMCs hybrid. From there on out owner Fred Grubb hired well known coaster designer Alan Shilke and together they designed the I-Box track. Around the same time, they also made a wood rendition, named the Topper Track. As their name grew throughout the years they wanted to expand by giving smaller parks the option to purchase cheap, small, and world class coasters. This marked the beginning of the Raptor track, the world's first single rail coaster. Though it's been a debate among long time coaster enthusiasts if this truly is the first single rail coaster, you can't deny that it's original. With RMC nearly two decades, we take a look at all of their current coaster models, see how they have changed throughout the years, and how they might look in another decade. How far will they go? What are their limits? And the big question, what's necessary? RMC somehow managed to make elements like the Zero G Stall or Step-up under flip, or even the 270 Degree double inverting stall possible. As of present day 2020, Rocky Mountain Construction has built twenty-one coaster over the United States, Europe, and Asia… and they have even more on the way with coasters like Jersey Devil and Iron Gwazi. The future of this company looks unmatchable, so what heights can we expect to see RMC reach?
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The funny thing is that I’m not wild about drop towers or dive coasters, but the coaster development I’d love to see more than any other is a full-circuit coaster with a straight 500-foot drop.
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6:02 Yeah, or like taking King da Ka and throwing Woodstock Express on top of it!😱😂
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I cant imagine RMC will sell any more topper track woodies. It seems like the parks wouldnt want to put up with that maintenance headache when they can just as easily get it as an I-box
Although even Hybrids have quite a few problems, RMCs are far from perfect from a parks perspective.
@@sheeple04 Yes, I'm pretty sure they scared Cedar Fair away from buying from them again
You do some of the the best coaster videos
Roller coasters have been part of my life since I was a child. Have always been a thrill seeker and my fondest memories are waiting for amazing coasters to open up and getting excited to ride them.
I thought about how 600 feet would be unnecessary. I get it now.
Although you look at coasters like the fish hook, that was proposed to be 700 ft, and it was almost aprooved
@@vicjaxon4474 I feel that coaster wouldn't last long. My theory is that S&S would refurbish it or just build a better newer version of it. Maybe another company would be up to the challenge but I think that S&S would do it because they have the old Arrow plans.
Falcons flight?
@@markfitzsimmons2100 well it is built on the side of a mountain. I mean free standing.
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Dude, awesome video as always. Always look forward to your stuff. Keep on coasting!
3:00 I'd say Mack is also making "next-gen hypers"; not only are theirs FAR more intense with regards to airtime, and even positive Gs, but they also can throw in inversions.
Such an amazing video, you are inspiring me to upload possible videos onto my own channel. I love your work and what you are creating is really eye opening. Cant wait for the next video and I will be sure to recommend this channel to my other RCE friends. thx
Just watched your pantheon video from 3 months ago and realized how fast you’ve been growing. You’ve been doing great and you really deserver it. Keep op the great work.
Also: i jumped when you mentioned 3 special elements rmc made and 2 were from Untamed. Aahhhh
Love the predictions, how far do you think intamin would go...? 🤔
You make great videos, and you always come up with questions that are great and I would have never thought of! Keep it up 👍
This was such a great video. Thanks for the amazing content!!
I could see RMC eventually reaching obscene heights, although I do have concerns about the long-term structural integrity of the single rails, especially as they get bigger! I got hooked on RMC coasters after going on Railblazer at CGA and Joker at SFDK and hope to add several more credits despite being 41 with a less than healthy neck!
TPC's reaction when he was told about 500 ft T Rexes, though. Priceless.
You always have the best introductions!!!
Great video! Very informative! Keep up the great work!
Here's what they need to do. Dial in your methods, design, qa, hiring and training, and standards before you start going nuts. You bring a B&M approach and execution to all that and start applying it, you'll be unstoppable.
Otherwise they just end up like Arrow from the 2000s
I think RMC may even develop a single rail gauged somewhere between the Raptor and T-rex. Something like what they produce for Skyline Attractions Skywarp model. That track could accommodate side by side seating for a greater throughput, and put them into the 200-400 foot range before further developing the T-rex. From the outside looking in they my look to be on top, but their struggles are real. They (or at least the parks that bought them) are still having issues with the second gen trains and many complain the first gens run shorter layouts and still limp into the station. They also didn't sell the first gen raptor model to meet their expectations. They also will likely need to develop a higher speed lift system because they will most likely need to design rides with steeper lift mechanisms to fit in smaller spaces as land is a concern at many parks. They've already commented that any future launches would be done in-house. Don't get me wrong, I love the end product just trying to shed some light on some of the kinks that might slow their roll along the way.
I commend you, Zach, on your realistic view with regard to height limits,perhaps wise beyond your years!
RMC has talked about a raptor/T-Rex style track that would be in between the heights of the other two
Like a stegosaurus track?
More like allosaurus
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I like that single rail. Looks smooth.
OMC is a great company and I am so glad that iron glacis is coming to my home park I love this channel I Have always liked this channel and I’m always happy when a new video comes out
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5:55 that look of shock on the interviewer’s face after he said 400-500 feet is all of us
I think there is so much hype about Cedar Point having a 500 footer that they're gonna have to do it. If they could have the footers go into lake Erie that would give them plenty of room or if it rode along the causeway that would be an awesome entrance!
Doubt they'll be allowed to build into Lake Erie. We might see a 500 footer when Magnum XL reaches it shelf life but until then I think we've still got a long way to go before we see a 500 foot coaster anywhere.
Honestly they might just remove Gemini to make room for the Trex. I know that cedar point is itching for the first 500 ft coaster and I think 2021 will be the year. Crossing my fingers!!
Magnum and Gemini are two of their signature rides. I wouldn't look for either to be replaced any time soon. I think they could potentially add a T-Rex without removing any existing coasters. There is plenty of room on "Adventure Island" for a ride that could coexist with Millennium's track. If they needed a bit more room, I could see them removing Iron Dragon or Cedar Creek Mine Ride, but I'm not sure it would be necessary.
Bamarailfan I don’t think they’d remove cedar creek due to it being one of their only family coasters and it’s also one of their first.
@@puppetuppers4806 I agree, but I could see it going before either Magnum or Gemini. I really have doubts they would remove anything honestly.
RMC can keep doing what they’re doing and stay profitable. Until GCI debuts their steel track, they really don’t have any competition in the hybrid field. I’m super exited to see where the Raptor model and the upcoming T-Rex model goes as those coasters are just cool, and almost as fun to watch as they are to ride. And I’m looking forward to the next gen StrataCoasters. Hopefully RMC will have one.
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Love this video and I also think that rmc won’t go past 400 within the next 20 years if they even do get a buyer for a 400 foot t rex
Rmc is a god of coasters
Can’t wait for the next video! :)
RMC is a beast! innovative
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I love RMC cuz of the airtime and the inversions and their trains are comfortable
Omg so true steel vengeance was so packed with elements but all the rides I had were so smooth and yes the seats are great. Gci trains are also cozy
I think RMC trains are absolutely horrible. Mostly due to the shinguards. The trains are the worst part about RMC imo. But I have only ridden Untamed so maybe it's better on other RMCs.
Bill Chief not the ones on roar at SFA since it’s PTC trains and not buzzbars 🤦🏾♂️
@@sheeple04 the seatbelt digs into the thighs and that hurts a lot
Hello there Zach:
Believe it or not there IS a new Raptor going into a tiny waterpark out in the middle of nowhere in South Dakota of all places! The Layout is going to be an exact copy of Wonder Woman Golden Lasso Coaster at SFFT (i know it is at the Six Flags park with the huge quarry wall) and it is meant for small parks like that so it is awesome to see one finally go to a park where it is meant to be cause all the big parks have been getting them so it is nice to see one be announced for a small park even though it is QUITE LITERALLY out in the middle of nowhere. Thought I put that out there for you man.
Energylandia can be crazy enough to build T-rex model. Maby even CedarFair
I think the first 500 foot coaster will come out in the 2030s
If ever, RMC can only build 45° lift hills, which means it would take an enormous amount of space (at least 500 ft for a lift hill). I feel like they just made that pitch to get enthusiasts hyped but it probably won't ever be built, that's just the structural limits
Imagine a dueling Raptor coaster that would be awesome
Just subbed... Great Video!
It would be nice to see Six Flags America get a T-Rex coaster. All the years we've been waiting; we'd be in a real treat to receive this.
Theme Park Crazy just had a heart attack
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I love this video, but I've never actually ridden an RMC!
TwinTime Productions you have to go out and ride one. Even if it’s one of the weaker ones. It’s an experience like never before.
I was going to last month with lightning rod, but then all this stuff happened. No RMC credits. Total of 9 credits. :(
Aerospace Gaming i live in Denmark :( and sadly not in the part close to Kålmarden
Great video!
To be honest I never imagined RMC getting to 500 feet in the first place. With how tall Intamin has gotten at 456 feet (Kingda Ka at Six Flags Great Adventure) and how slowly B&M is catching up (Fury 325 at Carowinds), I was thinking one of those two would get there first. In fact wasn't Intamin the manufacturer of that 500 foot Skyscraper roller coaster that's supposed to be built in Orlando?
I don't think they were the manufacturer who was supposed to build that, because the ride itself was just a concept and not a final design yet so a manufacturer probably had not been chosen yet. Personally, I doubt any manufacturer reach 500ft anytime soon. This is not the coaster wars anymore where parks wanted to outdo everyone. Steel prices are currently also stupidly high so a coaster of 500ft would cost a insane amount of money. Simply not feasible for any chain or park I think except Disney, but they don't build tall coasters.
@@sheeple04 it would also require crazy amounts of land for the drawn out layout and massive support structure
Dont forget that RMC will soon receive competition from GCI's upcoming hybrid model as well as gravity group's inverting woodies
no chance they'll be as smooth as RMC's work though. GCI's already are rattly, every rmc is silky smooth
@@chase7624 Have you been on a RMC Woodie?
@@chase7624 cries in every U.S topper track
Yeah, Gravity Group can go much more compact with their timberliners and shuttle designs, GCI can do crazier layouts as the non inverting layouts they've made look like the inspiration for RMC and with inversions they can go crazy and their hybrid design could retrofit their prototypes like Wildcat and Roar much better than RMC as they basically would add inversions and more heavily banked turns
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Raptor and T-Rex are two single-rail RMC coaster models with dinosaur-sounding names!
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Thanks Zack. Really got me thinking. Everyone says a 500 foot coaster at CP but honestly that would have to be a Polercoaster. Not enough room there. They would have it with a hotel in it and a drop tower on one side facing the lake. You also have to take in account the lake effect keeping it closed most of the time. Next best bet Six Flags Magic Mountain. Although I have heard that RMC has a somewhat Rocky relationship with them but if the 2021 rumor is true then maybe not. I heard some people say the park was not as pleased with TC as they expected. Also I couldn't see Six Flags dropping $100 million on a 500 foot model with the extra earthquake proofing. So that leaves Kings Island, Carowinds and Busch Gardens Tampa/Sea World Orlando as the only acceptable parks. Disney and Universal could afford a $40-75 million ride but would never build that tall. BGT could have a hurricane wipe it out one day so that to me leaves it put of question. SWO wouldn't make that much investment. Kings Island based off of Orion will not get it either they made a budget Giga so why outdo the flagship park. I could see Carowinds getting it in all honesty. Seems like there is room and they are investing heavy into it too......although now just thinking about it Canadas Wonderland might be interesting hmmmmm.
I simply don't think it's feasible for any park since it's just wayyyyy too expensive and you can still attract similar crowds with a shorter coaster. Also Cedar Fair definitely wont work with RMC again anytime soon since well, Steel Vengeance and Twisted Timbers were pretty bad from a parks perspective, technical issues, structural problems and barely increasing park attendance. Same with Railblazer for barely increasing attendance.
P.S. Orion is not a budget Giga. It costs the same as Fury 325. Why? Rising steel costs. And the fact that it isn't as long as Fury doesn't make it a budget Giga.
It’s funny how Vegas was trying to build a 700ft coaster on the side of the stratosphere hotel tower in 2002. Coasters are meant to be ambiguous but yet ambitious too lol
Maybe it's just because it's my home park, but I think it would be awesome if Kings Island got the first 500 footer. I think it's a crime that we've never had the height record, and also the 500 foot T-Rex could be the longest coaster ever, giving Kings Island the longest wood, inverted, and steel coasters.
I'm hoping my home park of SFGA gets the first Trex coaster. They like testing designs here.
Would love to see RMC retrofit Wild Adventures Cheetah into either into a topper or hybrid. Hopefully something like that happens for one of South/Middle GA’s most beloved woodies within the next few years.. as for height on the T-rex design.. I’d say 500 is far from the max their gonna go.
You should do a Coaster Theory how far will Busch Gardens go after Pantheon.
I don't think CP would get a T-Rex. it is unrealistic for them to go 500 ft because of Lake Erie winds, and if they go shorter, people will be mad. I don't think any park that can afford a 500 ft coaster would buy one either. it is so extra that you could buy a hyper and a giga and bring in 3x the crowds for close to the same amount of steel and shorter cranes
Yeah they don't have enough space and plus SV had its own slew of problems
I haven't even finished watching yet but I'm wondering how far they will go as far as intensity. Steel vengeance is insane. How could they possibly make the next one more intense without sending people to the hospital. Think about the back problems you can get because of insane ejector airtime. I assume they would make rules about who rides. Just a thought
Steel Vengeance and other RMCs airtime max out at around -1.5 g from what I've heard and SV only looks to have 5 moments of brutal air time so they just don't have many ridiculous ejector airtime moments and have more drawn out layouts focused on speed and inversions as well like Iron Gwazi and Zadra
This vid was posted on my birthday
thank you for this vid
I wonder if the poler coaster will start construction?
Hopefully never.
NV_Spartan - why not? It would be fun!
I would love a roller coaster to go straight down 700 ft omg imagine how long that drop would feel
Awsome video. I think anything taller than 400 ‘ would be just for bragging rights. They need to focus on different elements and coaster styles . Higher doesn’t anyways equal better I would love to see the I box track used as a giga or even used above as a suspended the possibility’s could be almost endless.
Zadra is a beast. Im curious if Iron Gwazi will be better. Bw love your wideos. Cool content and interesting vids
I know I'm supposed to bo focusing on Zadra in those clips of Zadra, but that is a really bright red SLC in the background.
I don’t see anything taller than 500 feet coming anytime soon. The cost for such a coaster would just be massive. The T-Rex is going to pop up somewhere soon, but it will stay very rare. I hope and think that we are going to see a lot of Raptors being built, and this will be a massive change for the industry. The other manufacturers have to come up with new ideas, or they are going to lose a lot of customers.
Honestly I think that a 600ft coaster is about were they max out. Probably only a couple of them too. Call them Hexa coasters, theme one after a bee, call it a day.
Unlikely, but I could see s&s perfecting their air launches from the thrust air models and building 400-600 foot coasters, kind of plagarising intamin and their stratas. But not layout coasters. Just launch---> top hat ---> end.
I'd like this comment, but I don't think that it's that unlikely!
That's pretty much what Hypersonic XLC was.
@@nv_spartan1771 And Dragster.
I know this is an old vid, but Silverwood in Idaho just got an RMC Raptor named “stunt pilot”.
So the first ever 500 feet polercoaster will be a T-Rex from US Thrillrides in collaboration with RMC? Raptor and T-Rex tracks could be the perfect indoor coasters or even fit in darkrides (suspended or not) I live in the Netherlands and Untamed is fantastic!!! Like a mini SteVe haha!
I would like to see innovation in raptor (or that T-rex) trains, like wing seats facing outward on both sides. I see it as the new and extreme version of the mad mouse, the more disconnected the rider feels from the track, the better.
Fun spot in florida could use a rmc raptor
Can you do a video about what park the next big dipper will go to?
I know there's a few video saying around that 500-600 is probably pretty close to max for forces? Until some revolutionary comes along thats allows us to push more. but the cost, risk, yeah not sure....
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Parc asterix is now 2022 and a hybrid can have wooden track with steel supports not just the way rmc do it but great video nonetheless
Do you think rmc' s will age well or become rough as we don't have one that's of any age yet
na guy I don’t think they will get rough, if anything maybe a small rattle. Some RMCs have slowed down a little bit since they opened so I’m sure if anything happens, they will just slow down over time.
Okay woah you make some great points in this video! Also what’s the background music called? I love it 🥴
You should do a video about what is Busch Gardens getting after there giga shuttle coaster in 2021.
I think sea world could use a t rex to make people look past blackfish
RMC is gonna far enough where someone will have a heart attack on one of their 400+ foot coasters and die. That’s where we’re headed, I can’t imagine the coasters 10 years from now.
The sky’s the limit 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cedar point I feel is the park to build the first t rex. But where do they put it. I always wondered if they could pour footers out in the lake like the do on bridges. Imagine the possibilities
Can't deny that RMC is innovative. But they have the downtime issues. And don't get me started on those 2nd Gen operations. But at the same time, and innovative company will do that. Innovative rides aren't perfect
Yeah but they've already most likely driven away Cedar Fair away with the issues of Steel Vengeance, they have to be careful with their additions as they could drive business away from the U.S
I just really want Valleyfair to get a new roller coaster roller coaster we haven’t had a new roller coaster in 13 years
That was my park growing up, 1st year veteran. They were always a bit on the small side, Renegade was the best thing they ever got. RMC High Roller?
Fred Hurst yes definitely on the small side of thing and renegade is definitely the best coaster that’s there
RMC Excalibur?? Lol
I'll be waiting here for Six Flags New England to get rid of Flashback and put a Raptor clone there then! Having two boomerangs next to each other looks ridiculous and Goliath is the superior coaster despite its issues.
The taller you go, the more that wind becomes a factor.
A 500 ft T Rex would basically mean the death of RMC unless it comes in 20 or 30 years
Honestly for someone like me that has a tendency for just skipping through videos, for some reason I could sit through this one
Thinks SF might suprise us and built a 500 ft coaster 😱😱
It won't happen but Six Flags Over Texas SHOULD BE the First Park to receive a 500 foot T Rex Coaster. It is the Park Most Responsible for the Modern Theme Park. A Monster T Rex Running Around the perimeter of the park would be EPIC!!! Plus Everything IS BIGGER IN TEXAS!!!
Uhhhh Over Texas isn't the most influential theme park ever by a long shot.
Disneyland Anaheim was. That established what a modern theme park should look like.
In fact, the original idea for Six Flags Over Texas was for it to be the Disneyland of Texas.
I've wanted to love RMC from day one of the announcement that they were coming to my home park, but I have two issues. 1. A small group of people actually fit comfortably in the seats of RMC trains. 2. 200 foot tall lift hills are pointless when all the rest of the hills of a coaster stay below 150 feet. What's the point? It just generates too much speed which power slams people into the already uncomfortable seat restraints as the trains top all those little hills after the epic tall lift hill.
Raptors DEFINITELY arent the first single rail coasters, just the first single rail coasters that are worth riding
I think that we won't see a RMC T-Rex, or any coaster for that matter, reach 500ft. It's just way too expensive. Think about the amount of steel needed for that project, and the rising steel prices. Yeah your probably looking at a 100 million dollar coaster right there, while you can still attract a whole lot of crowds with a 300ft coaster which are much much cheaper. And if we ever see a 500ft coaster, I think its more likely parks go to Intamin. Intamin has much more experience in the field and they are proven with their tall coasters.
About RMCs future, I think they will become less influential in the future. Their Hybrid conversions will happen rarely, and sometimes they will build a ground up hybrid but not much more, but the Raptor will be their main driving force. They also really have to rely on Six Flags a lot since Cedar Fair and other chains are simply not very interested in the company, and will rather go to other manufacturers like Gerstlauer, B&M, Intamin and MACK Rides. Some smaller parks might buy a few Raptors, but the small thrill coaster scene is very crowded with Gerstlauer ruling supreme, and Vekoma rising again.
To summarize: Doubt we will see a 500ft T-Rex, and RMC will become less influential and has to heavily rely on their Raptor track and also rely on Six Flags. Some small parks might buy Raptors but other manufacturers are more influential there.
Basically what I was gonna write but was too lazy. Well said!