This is still one of my favorite Frank Murphy. Frank knew all along his dad had just been putting on a big act, refused to acknowledge his own mistakes as a father and openly antagonized his son in public, in front of witnesses, again. I appreciated the show having frank follow through punching his father instead of cop out with one of those walk away the bigger person moments. Big bill honestly had it coming.
It was unfortunate that Frank's family looked at him with disdain for that; Frank probably could have just demanded they take it out to the parking lot to save him the shame. Still, his father had it coming. Being the bigger person just means being the bigger doormat.
@conartist j Temperance is important, but hard lines need to be drawn somewhere. Call me sad if it makes you feel better, but I don't see the whole "let things go and allow karma to take care of it" mentality to be a good ethical standard. Would the world really be a better place if decent people sat on their hands while the assholes ran amok? People have to learn to either check themselves or get checked.
@conartist j If he had walked away, his father would have never learned his lesson. He’d probably have called frank a coward for being the bigger man and then a coward again for trying to fight him later. Yes ego does have a part in this, but honestly that’s just a trait in every person. Plus picking the fight another time isn’t exactly being the bigger person, more so biding your time, which I guess is good but then you have to ask, “when is a good time to beat the brakes off my abusive father?”
To quote a wise man “I don’t care if she’s a woman, old lady, or baby I’ll still fight her….she’s a fighter in our way, what am I supposed to do let her reem me?”
The older they are the more experienced they are. By that logic it’s Big B’s own fault for not dodging the punch and summersaulting onto his son in self defence.
I absolutely hated franks father with a passion. I’m so glad my dad wasn’t anything like him. That punch was the most satisfying thing to watch in the whole series
In fulfilling his revenge, Frank unknowingly repeats the cycle of embarrassment for his family. Ruins his daughter's show and his oldest son looks at him in a much different light. He doesn't see that in that moment, he was his father.
Except he wasn't, other than the show forcing him to be that. His father was a cunt in his childhood, and the situation now, with him as an adult is completely different, as is his reasoning for interrupting the play, which he worked hard to apologize for, which his dad would never do. This is just sloppy writing and forced similarities.
@@mightilyoats2729 do u think the kid knows that? I'm sure Bill has some great reason and back story to why he treated his son that way. Maybe Bill ignored the people in his life because he was trying to stick it to his dad?
@@sometimeslol5578 Probably the kid doesn't, and it's a watershed moment for the dad Bill plays, which is fine, but the context of the situation from everyone else's perspective is somehow the same and that doesn't work for me. Especially his wife looking at him like that when she knows their history and what a piece of shit his dad is. I don't want thunderous applause and a feel-good soundtrack, but every single person there being horrified he stood up for himself after years of abuse doesn't sit right with me, especially since literally everyone heard the argument and saw what an asshole his dad is. Him ultimately being a pathetic old man shouldn't be something that's used against him in the scene, but it is.
I always liked it when Frank finally stood up to his dad after all his years of being abused by him. He also wasn't fooled by the act Big Bill was putting on when he was with the kids
@conartist j How’s a man who abused his kid supposed to just walk back into their life wanting to be a grandparent. A real fucking man would look back at his actions, and decide whether or not he’s worthy of being a grandparent if his own child doesn’t care for him. If your kids genuinely try to avoid or actively tell you they hate you or fear you, you need to do some serious self reflection
@conartist j If your kid moves far far away from you, has a whole family you never met, and actively tells you they hate you….you have to reflect on yourself and the situation itself. If my kid did that, I’d wonder what’s wrong, what I did or if they’re overreacting. I’d listen to what they have to say, instead of shutting them down and assuming my perspective is right. But then again knowing the generation big bill came from, empathy is sorely lacking
So glad I grew up with a dad who disciplined me when I was an arsehole and allowed me to feel my emotions when I was down, there's a difference between crafting a boy into a man, and emotionally stunting him so he grows into a hollow shell like big bill did with frank. My dad was the perfect balance of wisdom, authority and care that could be in a male role model. Nearly a decade since his death and not a day goes by where I don't miss him. R.I.P Dad ❤ EDIT: thank you all for your comments, I appreciate them all ❤️
Damn I never met the guy, but I already miss him….wish I had a father like that. Instead I live in a toxic masculinity and apathy over empathy based family…
I'm sorry for your loss. My father was the same. My mom is a psycho and my uncle is a bully. My dad and my gf, who I had known for years as a family friend were the only ones that I had. Dad died when I was 22 of lung cancer, and she died of a heroin overdose when I was 28. I wish I could have protected them. I would gladly die so they could have lived.
Man, that sounds like a great deal, and that he was a strong, good loving man himself. Mine was distant and tyrant-like, and even threw me under the bus a couple of times to save his own skin, only to dissappear forever in my teens. Good riddance tbh, but it left me broken in several ways that I could not figure out until my late twenties, been a hard road going up but I think of myself lucky to be able to move thru. I've made my peace now by forgetting him and never blame him for when I've acted like an asshole to others or with myself. Wish he had loved me, so RIP to your old man, my friend. He does deserve to be remembered.
That old bag of bones deserved it. He’s been nothing but an abusive piece of shit to Frank and is the reason why Frank is the way he is. Hell, he forced Frank to wear a grass skirt and a coconut bra just because he cried over Pearl Harbor, he humiliated Frank during his play and start calling him Francine just because he cried over his father ruining his play. He’s also beaten Frank on multiple occasions. He has the audacity to have that charming facade in public when really behind closed doors, he was a monster. Frank punching his father in the face was completely justified and that old codger deserved every bit of it. Only downside is that Frank ended up ruining Maureen’s play as she ran out of the school in tears.
@@limpwhale No, the point is that by ruining the play for his daughter, although justified, makes him no better than his father, even though he is morally correct.
Every generation is an example of growth from or decline towards the mistakes of your parents, and all must be responsible for who they become. Poignant message about repeating the sins of your fathers all to the detriment of your children.
I remember Bill Burr saying that the way his father treated him was propably 50% of what he endured in his own childhood(which he never spoke a word about). He said he hoped to cut it a further 50%, and eventually that poison in his family tree will be no more.
I know that feeling too well. My older brother always used to mess with me growing up (Make fun of me, take my stuff, and beat me up pretty bad on numerous occasions.) One day when I was 19 I finally snapped and let it all out. I pulled him out of the car and started wailing on him infront of my dad and a bunch of people on the street. Everyone was looking at me like I was a lunatic. I walked off and sat in the rain waiting for the ambulance to show up to tend to my broken hand. Felt like absolute garbage.
I've had almost this exact situation play out between my father and me at the hospital. I was wheeling my 65 year old father out of the hospital because he has a fractured hip. We were running late to grab the cab outside so I sped up to a jog on the way out. He said I was going too fast and JAMMED his cane into the right wheel and the chair lurches to a stop, jabbing me in the stomach. He goes: "The next time I use this cane it's gonna be to break it over your F***ING HEAD"!! I lift the wheelchair up and dump him onto the floor. I remember screaming at him: You're gonna threaten ME?! After I wheeled your ass around this f***ing hospital? Who buys and cooks the food you eat? Who cleans your house and picks up after you!?! A bunch of nurses see this exchange and separate the 2 of us and begin to admonish me. "Whats my problem"? "How dare I attack an elderly man" I see him wordlessly pick himself up off the ground and head to the taxi without me. I basically tell the nurses: "You have no clue what's ACTUALLY going on here. You're stepping in the middle of something you don't even understand." and quickly hop into the cab. When we got home he tells me he's disowning me for "embarrassing him in public". I just tell him: So you're taking back the last time you disowned me just to disown me AGAIN? He just stared at me blankly for a couple seconds before walking away. Humans are visual and biased beings. Even though my father is a monster who ACTUALLY showed a glimpse of his true self in public, the only thing anyone cared about was that he was 65.
I hate that people always victimize the abusers simply because they are older and always give a shite excuse of "He was doing it for your own good" or "He was a little bitch to you because he loves you" like bro, Love and Abuse shouldn't mix and people let this shit slide simply because they brought you into this world. What's the point in being in this world if all that you were brought here for was to get picked on by their own parent. I'm glad you were able to stand up to them and hopefully end the cycle of abuse.
How did your dad "walk" away when he was just in a wheelchair that he apparently needed? And why did he have a cane if he's in a wheelchair to begin with?
@CeeJay____ He has a fractured hip. With a cane he can walk about 20 steps at a time before needing to rest. Because of that he has me wheel him around in the hospital wheelchairs everything there's an appointment. Also not to be THAT GUY, but you do realize that wheelchairs and cane's aren't mutually exclusive tools right? Someone might need a wheelchair but can walk small distances if they have a cane. Some people need a cane to walk but prefer to be pushed in a wheelchair. Also looking back you didn't read my original post all the way, because I even specifically noted I was pushing him because of his fractured hip
@krmKB It hasn't. He tried to call the police saying I was abusing him. The problem was that he forgot he still had an ACTIVE arrest warrant for domestic violence. Police came, I showed them my scars, they looked him over, found nothing, then arrested him. All the while, he's yelling at me how it's all my fault, and he's gonna get me when I least expect it. His last words to me since I've seen him screaming from the back of the squad car: "This is f***ed! It should be YOU in here, NOT ME!!!!" All I said back to him was: "Who was the one who decided they needed to swing their d*** around and show they're in charge? I didn't call the police, YOU DID, trying to get me arrested you DUMB F***"!
If only everyone els really knew who Big Bill really was and all the pain he put on Frank he would be more appreciated! I hope something like that dose happen in Season 5.
Anyone who's had a father who was far too aggressive or abusive can empathise with Frank. Sure, there might be a time and a place to settle old grudges, but our emotions and triggers don't run on a timetable. I had a father who was excessively intimidating and abusive, and while he apologised for his actions years later, it doesn't just fix the emotional trauma he put me through. He wasn't anywhere near as abusive as Frank's father, but fathers like this can turn you into a shell of a person and destroy whatever self-esteem and assertiveness you have as an individual, making life much harder to face. The worst part is when other family members refuse to recognise abuse for what it is, and just handwave it as something like 'tough love' or being a 'real man'.
Hey you are not alone. I’ve been there, I had really awful father, step-mom and step-father. Everyone around me used to think they were saints. It took me flipping out on them at Christmas for other family members to see their true colors. It’s rough feeling like we are dealing with the abuse alone. The whole “tough love” argument is just a cop out for being awful. I’m sorry you went through that. I know that what I went through had a hand in making me who I am today and I like who I am. I hope you love you who are.
Good god. As a kid that was emotionally abused and now an adult since moving out that has MULTIPLE times tried to tell my parents the ways that their style of parenting hurt me, gave me crippling self hatred issues, and hearing "you just took it the wrong way", and JUST like Bill, now they're COMPLETELY different people like it never happened-- I FELT this scene. It actually made me realise that they're NEVER going to care or admit it and if I don't get over it in a healthy way I am going to turn into Frank.
By Bill's own in-practice logic, Frank was in the right. Little kid a third your size, a trembling 73 year-old who walks with a cane, all "Waah, waaah, waah! I'm a crybaby!" in his own playbook...Also, blame everyone else for anything that doesn't go your way... The wolf in the sheep disguise basically got slaughtered for mutton by the shepherds, or eating by his own pack. That's what it boils down to.... Frank and family going down with him is the real concern....
@@king__T me either, but what I do know is that his real father wasn't a police officer like in the show. His real father was a chemist with a PhD degree. It's irony at its finest when a police officer raises a complete public menace...
Im a daddy’s girl and my boyfriend grew up with a dad like Bill unfortunately. I didn’t know about his childhood that much until this episode was on I said omg why is he cold to his old dad he’s being so warm with the kids ,Frank has issues. My bf kept saying he’s bullshitting and it’s all an act and he’s seen his dad do this too. I thought maybe he’d change his mind when Frank and Bill hugged and “reconciled” but nope he still said “it’s an act babe” . When we reached this scene where his dad broke character , he was like see? lol that punch was satisfying .
This episode literally threw a punch in the gut. After I saw this episode, I literally hated Sue Murphy blaming Frank for the whole mess and selfish he was, but it was literally William Murphy who causes the problems so technically for me I don't blame Frank, William Murphy the one who literally just told him to punch him and call him a fucking sissy that's kinda what he get for pushing Frank too much. Every time I watched this episode, I literally get pissed at the part where Sue gets mad at Frank which makes me sort of hate her just this once in this episode
Frank should still know how to control his emotions. He makes a big scene in front of everyone. His kids would be a laughing stock of the school probably.
Technically Frank is the only one of the two with any sense of responsibility, but if she didn't put anything on her father-in-law or consider forbidding him from seeing her family....
Not to mention how Sue’s father and brother are assholes to Frank and she and her mother just let it happen. Sometimes she’s hypocritical, but that just makes her character that much more intriguing.
Because sometimes its too late for getting what they deserve like this scene Big Bill got what he deserved 20 years too late from his son because now it just looks like a son beating his old man even though its a way bigger picture
I honestly can understand Frank. My dad was abusing me and my mom and I haven’t seen him in years. If I ever my dad I’m gonna punch him like I had to go through therapist and on meds because it was bad.
I really like the detail that both when Frank's mom and Frank retaliated, Big Bill landed the same way. The hit his head on something, the fall, the look. It's all the exact same but the context is different. Frank's mom was standing up to a horrible man at possibly his physical peak and a force to be reckoned with. Frank is hitting a man nearing the end of his life and isn't a threat to anyone physically no matter how much he blusters. All he has are words.
I wouldn't consider words that jab at your trauma and abuse that you suffered at the hands of said person to be so trivial though. Also lets face it. He picked on and beat a little kid who was weaker then him. Now he's the weaker one. He simply got karma.
Yeah, the sad part is that Frank regretted what he did and realized he was wrong. He could've shown his kids then that he had outgrown the influence of his biggest bully yet instead fell prey to his childhood fears and beated down a shriveled weak shell of a man. And by the time he gets the bowling balls, he comes to realize that more than beating him up, what he truly wanted was for his old man to _apologize and patch up things with him and make the best with the time they had left._ That's what Frank wanted all along, to feel that warmth and bondness with his dad he never experienced.
@@ntinosaggelopoulos6718 Yeah, I was gonna say the same. It seemed like the only thing that stopped Big Bill was his "friends" were looking at him like: "What are you doing? 😠"
I like how this scene shows some things need to be let go and moved on. Big Bill definitely deserved that but Frank finally losing it just made him look just like his dad in front of everybody without realizing it. It shows a good message without pulling a cliché scene.
I like how as much swearing there is in this show, it’s ALWAYS impactful and kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth, like as soon as Frank said “you SON OF A BITCH” everyone turned and looked alarmed, it caught their attention. If it was Family Guy, nobody would be paying attention until Peter started throwing punches and there would just be a gag of him fighting for 10 minutes, here, it’s a massive buildup with Frank and Bill arguing being viewed as a significant moment. And instead of things getting more crazy, it all tones down with Frank being stared down by everyone in the theater. No last minute side comment from a random civilian, no cutaway gags to try to make it funny, the tone is set and it’s set well
This show hits too hard to home sometimes... But one of the top ten best scenes, it just goes too show sometimes you have to break the cycle and find peace or you'll continue to take it out on your family.
I want to feel good for Frank cause his dad was such a piece of shit, totally got what’s coming to him for damaging Frank - but this scene is just really sad 😞
this is a perfect representation of what raising a hateful child does to everyone around you. it hurts everyone below you, and then the hateful child comes back up to you and hurts you. and then no one can be happy any longer. complete destruction.
Bill loved his kid. But he never respected him enough to put his Ego aside to think how he made Frank feel his whole life. it wasn’t until just before he died he realized he was more abusive than supportive and it messed frank up really bad. The real tragity is when he actually does want to apologize to frank sincerely but passes away before they can really have the moment.
I think this moment was the moment Frank forget he was arguing with an Ant. I mean he had all he's ever wanted in some respects. He has a loving wife that builds him up during the worst times, his oldest might be a screw up but at least he helps his Dad at work, his other son is a good kid who laters becomes a hockey star and his daughter is very smart for her age. And Frank has real friends who have seen him at his best and worst. Frank just didn't get that he already won and if anything is Dad was jealous. Sure he can pretend to be the sweet old man, but his wife is gone, his son hates him, he lost the pride of his business and now he's old, weak, and see the end of the line waiting. All the while his son has everything he ever wanted.....sometimes we never know we are fighting an ant...dont fight the ant, just walk away
I'm glad frank did that and for big bill you were popping all that good shit a second ago now you got knocked the fuck out whats good now old man what's good now
The guy who spent years training and bonding with his son is worse than the guy who forced his to dress in a girls bikini for shedding a tear over pearl harbor?
See I love this because we're all taught you can say whatever you want with no repercussions that violence isn't the answer. But in that moment big bill finally learned there are consequences, and that today violence was the answer. Because the question is how do I get someone to quit picking on me the answer was violence.
Yeah he did, especially when he was being verbally abusive towards Frank, I know that him punching Big Bill in front of his daughter was not a good idea, but most people would be pushed around hard enough so much, that they will end up snapping from that bullying Frank was being given by his dad, and ends up attacking them, or punching them in the face like Frank did.
@@andrewpye2114yeah sooner or later you taunt a kid to hit he will hit. That’s what I did to my last bully, he acted big man in the halls and once he learned I’m much meaner and less sensitive about “fighting fair” the others left me more than well enough alone
We got so many unfinished stories from this show. Wishes they did one last season. Unfortunately many cast members have passed away. Will miss there voice.
The realization of why their dad is the way he is in Billy's and Kevin's faces just broke my heart. Generational trauma really is no joke, especially if they refuse to break the cycle. I do commend Frank for at least trying to be better than his father.
New and sadly the last season has been announced for Nov.25th but the date isn’t on the app nor has there been an actual trailer besides that 10 seconds of footage so it feels like Netflix is hiding the season so they can sabotage the viewership and cancel it
It was already announced back when season five was renewed it would be the final season. It was all part of the plan. Burr and Company has stated that they didn’t want the show to go on forever and they’re satisfied with it being the end
When we were kids my cousin was a major asshole. I try to keep the peace but I got sick of him treating me like garbage so I snapped and started choking him out. I wouldn’t have stopped if my grandma hadn’t have come in. My mother picked me up and she said she didn’t know to be either disappointed or proud of me
@@B3llyk0 so? He’s had to put up with his father’s BS and bullying his entire life, and from what I understand, his father was already on the way to ruining the play and/or purposely instigating Frank. People have a breaking point where they just don’t care anymore, and in this case while it definitely wasn’t the best place to do this, it had to eventually, and I don’t blame him for reaching his limit.
This is still one of my favorite Frank Murphy. Frank knew all along his dad had just been putting on a big act, refused to acknowledge his own mistakes as a father and openly antagonized his son in public, in front of witnesses, again. I appreciated the show having frank follow through punching his father instead of cop out with one of those walk away the bigger person moments. Big bill honestly had it coming.
More like little old man with small dog syndrome Bill, now...
It was unfortunate that Frank's family looked at him with disdain for that; Frank probably could have just demanded they take it out to the parking lot to save him the shame. Still, his father had it coming. Being the bigger person just means being the bigger doormat.
@conartist j Temperance is important, but hard lines need to be drawn somewhere. Call me sad if it makes you feel better, but I don't see the whole "let things go and allow karma to take care of it" mentality to be a good ethical standard. Would the world really be a better place if decent people sat on their hands while the assholes ran amok? People have to learn to either check themselves or get checked.
@conartist j Hence why I said he should have taken it outside. What's sad is your poor reading comprehension.
@conartist j If he had walked away, his father would have never learned his lesson. He’d probably have called frank a coward for being the bigger man and then a coward again for trying to fight him later. Yes ego does have a part in this, but honestly that’s just a trait in every person. Plus picking the fight another time isn’t exactly being the bigger person, more so biding your time, which I guess is good but then you have to ask, “when is a good time to beat the brakes off my abusive father?”
“Dude he’s an 80 year old man!”
“NO HE’S ONLY 73!!!!”
*SO FUCKING BUTTUP*
To quote a wise man
“I don’t care if she’s a woman, old lady, or baby I’ll still fight her….she’s a fighter in our way, what am I supposed to do let her reem me?”
The older they are the more experienced they are. By that logic it’s Big B’s own fault for not dodging the punch and summersaulting onto his son in self defence.
"NO HE ISN'T, HE'S ONLY 73!".
"Hey, buddy, he’s an 80 year old man"
I absolutely hated franks father with a passion. I’m so glad my dad wasn’t anything like him. That punch was the most satisfying thing to watch in the whole series
Eternal schoolyard bullies with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Am I right?
He reminds me of Richard Nixon.
@@aalloy6881 BRUH
I think anyone who’s dad wasn’t like Franks father is glad about that.
Your dad is the same age as them
In fulfilling his revenge, Frank unknowingly repeats the cycle of embarrassment for his family. Ruins his daughter's show and his oldest son looks at him in a much different light. He doesn't see that in that moment, he was his father.
At least in season 5 he realized this and tried to change for the better.
Pretty much
Except he wasn't, other than the show forcing him to be that.
His father was a cunt in his childhood, and the situation now, with him as an adult is completely different, as is his reasoning for interrupting the play, which he worked hard to apologize for, which his dad would never do.
This is just sloppy writing and forced similarities.
@@mightilyoats2729 do u think the kid knows that? I'm sure Bill has some great reason and back story to why he treated his son that way. Maybe Bill ignored the people in his life because he was trying to stick it to his dad?
@@sometimeslol5578 Probably the kid doesn't, and it's a watershed moment for the dad Bill plays, which is fine, but the context of the situation from everyone else's perspective is somehow the same and that doesn't work for me. Especially his wife looking at him like that when she knows their history and what a piece of shit his dad is.
I don't want thunderous applause and a feel-good soundtrack, but every single person there being horrified he stood up for himself after years of abuse doesn't sit right with me, especially since literally everyone heard the argument and saw what an asshole his dad is. Him ultimately being a pathetic old man shouldn't be something that's used against him in the scene, but it is.
I always liked it when Frank finally stood up to his dad after all his years of being abused by him. He also wasn't fooled by the act Big Bill was putting on when he was with the kids
@conartist j The fact he can’t admit he did anything wrong shows he was never sincere in the first place.
@conartist j How’s a man who abused his kid supposed to just walk back into their life wanting to be a grandparent. A real fucking man would look back at his actions, and decide whether or not he’s worthy of being a grandparent if his own child doesn’t care for him. If your kids genuinely try to avoid or actively tell you they hate you or fear you, you need to do some serious self reflection
@conartist j The way he treated Billy in the sports store showed that he hadn't changed a bit. He was just putting on an act.
@conartist j If your kid moves far far away from you, has a whole family you never met, and actively tells you they hate you….you have to reflect on yourself and the situation itself. If my kid did that, I’d wonder what’s wrong, what I did or if they’re overreacting. I’d listen to what they have to say, instead of shutting them down and assuming my perspective is right. But then again knowing the generation big bill came from, empathy is sorely lacking
@conartist j Also I’m pretty sure he used to beat frank, so physical abuse is on there, not sure what you’re talking about
So glad I grew up with a dad who disciplined me when I was an arsehole and allowed me to feel my emotions when I was down, there's a difference between crafting a boy into a man, and emotionally stunting him so he grows into a hollow shell like big bill did with frank.
My dad was the perfect balance of wisdom, authority and care that could be in a male role model.
Nearly a decade since his death and not a day goes by where I don't miss him. R.I.P Dad ❤
EDIT: thank you all for your comments, I appreciate them all ❤️
You're lucky. Few people know what that's like, especially today.
Damn I never met the guy, but I already miss him….wish I had a father like that. Instead I live in a toxic masculinity and apathy over empathy based family…
It’s always the shitty fathers that live the longest
It makes me appreciate my dad more but also makes me dread the day he leaves even worse
I'm sorry for your loss. My father was the same. My mom is a psycho and my uncle is a bully. My dad and my gf, who I had known for years as a family friend were the only ones that I had. Dad died when I was 22 of lung cancer, and she died of a heroin overdose when I was 28. I wish I could have protected them.
I would gladly die so they could have lived.
Man, that sounds like a great deal, and that he was a strong, good loving man himself.
Mine was distant and tyrant-like, and even threw me under the bus a couple of times to save his own skin, only to dissappear forever in my teens. Good riddance tbh, but it left me broken in several ways that I could not figure out until my late twenties, been a hard road going up but I think of myself lucky to be able to move thru.
I've made my peace now by forgetting him and never blame him for when I've acted like an asshole to others or with myself. Wish he had loved me, so RIP to your old man, my friend. He does deserve to be remembered.
Bill Burr's acting in this is amazing. You can tell he really pulls from personal experiences.
Dude was definitely working through some issues on this show.
He deserved an emmy
That old bag of bones deserved it. He’s been nothing but an abusive piece of shit to Frank and is the reason why Frank is the way he is. Hell, he forced Frank to wear a grass skirt and a coconut bra just because he cried over Pearl Harbor, he humiliated Frank during his play and start calling him Francine just because he cried over his father ruining his play. He’s also beaten Frank on multiple occasions. He has the audacity to have that charming facade in public when really behind closed doors, he was a monster. Frank punching his father in the face was completely justified and that old codger deserved every bit of it. Only downside is that Frank ended up ruining Maureen’s play as she ran out of the school in tears.
Yeah. If only he didn’t have to punch the guy there……
Anywhere else, hell yes but just not there.-
Not the point.
@@mateusm4686 that was the point. The punch would’ve been justified if this wasn’t during a school play and more of a one on one
@@limpwhale No, the point is that by ruining the play for his daughter, although justified, makes him no better than his father, even though he is morally correct.
And because he defended himself his scumbag teratiors of so called family turned there backs on him
1:34 it was that moment when he knew how much Frank truly hated him.
That kid is supposed to be the child version of an infamous cannibal so i'm not surprised he is amused by this stuff
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Unrelated to the comment but way to notice young Jeffrey Dahmer lmao
And yet his initial reaction was to find frank and beat the shit out of him
@@shadyomo3636 🤣yup. He was the very thing he always called Frank. A whiny bitch. He even called it a sucker punch too. 🤣
1:51 was the moment when Frank knew he did it at the worst time.
Every generation is an example of growth from or decline towards the mistakes of your parents, and all must be responsible for who they become. Poignant message about repeating the sins of your fathers all to the detriment of your children.
Holy crap, it's THE Roach Dogg Jr.
I remember Bill Burr saying that the way his father treated him was propably 50% of what he endured in his own childhood(which he never spoke a word about). He said he hoped to cut it a further 50%, and eventually that poison in his family tree will be no more.
I know that feeling too well. My older brother always used to mess with me growing up (Make fun of me, take my stuff, and beat me up pretty bad on numerous occasions.) One day when I was 19 I finally snapped and let it all out. I pulled him out of the car and started wailing on him infront of my dad and a bunch of people on the street. Everyone was looking at me like I was a lunatic. I walked off and sat in the rain waiting for the ambulance to show up to tend to my broken hand. Felt like absolute garbage.
If he hurt you your entire life, then he had it coming. No reason to feel bad.
You were right.
It's better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission.
My dad was an asshole to me and my siblings because of something he can only blame on himself, he traded his dream job for beer.
@@LitlleponeyD grow up
Big bill shouldn’t have been surprised he told Frank to hit him
Dude found out after 30+ years of fucking around.
Assholes are always surprised when people hate them
I've had almost this exact situation play out between my father and me at the hospital. I was wheeling my 65 year old father out of the hospital because he has a fractured hip. We were running late to grab the cab outside so I sped up to a jog on the way out. He said I was going too fast and JAMMED his cane into the right wheel and the chair lurches to a stop, jabbing me in the stomach. He goes: "The next time I use this cane it's gonna be to break it over your F***ING HEAD"!!
I lift the wheelchair up and dump him onto the floor. I remember screaming at him: You're gonna threaten ME?! After I wheeled your ass around this f***ing hospital? Who buys and cooks the food you eat? Who cleans your house and picks up after you!?! A bunch of nurses see this exchange and separate the 2 of us and begin to admonish me.
"Whats my problem"?
"How dare I attack an elderly man"
I see him wordlessly pick himself up off the ground and head to the taxi without me. I basically tell the nurses: "You have no clue what's ACTUALLY going on here. You're stepping in the middle of something you don't even understand." and quickly hop into the cab.
When we got home he tells me he's disowning me for "embarrassing him in public". I just tell him: So you're taking back the last time you disowned me just to disown me AGAIN? He just stared at me blankly for a couple seconds before walking away.
Humans are visual and biased beings. Even though my father is a monster who ACTUALLY showed a glimpse of his true self in public, the only thing anyone cared about was that he was 65.
Jesus Christ! I'm happy you stood up to him, good for you kudos.
I hate that people always victimize the abusers simply because they are older and always give a shite excuse of "He was doing it for your own good" or "He was a little bitch to you because he loves you" like bro, Love and Abuse shouldn't mix and people let this shit slide simply because they brought you into this world. What's the point in being in this world if all that you were brought here for was to get picked on by their own parent. I'm glad you were able to stand up to them and hopefully end the cycle of abuse.
How did your dad "walk" away when he was just in a wheelchair that he apparently needed? And why did he have a cane if he's in a wheelchair to begin with?
@CeeJay____ He has a fractured hip. With a cane he can walk about 20 steps at a time before needing to rest. Because of that he has me wheel him around in the hospital wheelchairs everything there's an appointment.
Also not to be THAT GUY, but you do realize that wheelchairs and cane's aren't mutually exclusive tools right? Someone might need a wheelchair but can walk small distances if they have a cane. Some people need a cane to walk but prefer to be pushed in a wheelchair.
Also looking back you didn't read my original post all the way, because I even specifically noted I was pushing him because of his fractured hip
@krmKB It hasn't. He tried to call the police saying I was abusing him. The problem was that he forgot he still had an ACTIVE arrest warrant for domestic violence. Police came, I showed them my scars, they looked him over, found nothing, then arrested him. All the while, he's yelling at me how it's all my fault, and he's gonna get me when I least expect it.
His last words to me since I've seen him screaming from the back of the squad car: "This is f***ed! It should be YOU in here, NOT ME!!!!"
All I said back to him was: "Who was the one who decided they needed to swing their d*** around and show they're in charge? I didn't call the police, YOU DID, trying to get me arrested you DUMB F***"!
The punch put his head in punch 😂😂😂
He had TWO punches! 🤣
If only everyone els really knew who Big Bill really was and all the pain he put on Frank he would be more appreciated! I hope something like that dose happen in Season 5.
In the trailer it hints at that happening
@@willwillisproductions159 Well I hope that it actually dose.
Anyone who's had a father who was far too aggressive or abusive can empathise with Frank. Sure, there might be a time and a place to settle old grudges, but our emotions and triggers don't run on a timetable. I had a father who was excessively intimidating and abusive, and while he apologised for his actions years later, it doesn't just fix the emotional trauma he put me through. He wasn't anywhere near as abusive as Frank's father, but fathers like this can turn you into a shell of a person and destroy whatever self-esteem and assertiveness you have as an individual, making life much harder to face. The worst part is when other family members refuse to recognise abuse for what it is, and just handwave it as something like 'tough love' or being a 'real man'.
Hey you are not alone. I’ve been there, I had really awful father, step-mom and step-father. Everyone around me used to think they were saints. It took me flipping out on them at Christmas for other family members to see their true colors. It’s rough feeling like we are dealing with the abuse alone. The whole “tough love” argument is just a cop out for being awful. I’m sorry you went through that. I know that what I went through had a hand in making me who I am today and I like who I am. I hope you love you who are.
Send this video to them without further comment. It'll make you feel good
Good god. As a kid that was emotionally abused and now an adult since moving out that has MULTIPLE times tried to tell my parents the ways that their style of parenting hurt me, gave me crippling self hatred issues, and hearing "you just took it the wrong way", and JUST like Bill, now they're COMPLETELY different people like it never happened--
I FELT this scene. It actually made me realise that they're NEVER going to care or admit it and if I don't get over it in a healthy way I am going to turn into Frank.
1:30 The bittersweet taste of revenge.
I kinda feel bad, look at his face
@@FentFentFentFent he had it coming
@@FentFentFentFent hey he told him to do it even gave him the first shot. He just thought to highly of himself that Frank wouldn’t do it.
Thats just the punch
@@louierenault7344 I meant both the punch itself and its consequences.
Let’s finish this thing GET UP
He’s an 80 year old man
He’s only 73 so butt out
By Bill's own in-practice logic, Frank was in the right. Little kid a third your size, a trembling 73 year-old who walks with a cane, all "Waah, waaah, waah! I'm a crybaby!" in his own playbook...Also, blame everyone else for anything that doesn't go your way...
The wolf in the sheep disguise basically got slaughtered for mutton by the shepherds, or eating by his own pack. That's what it boils down to....
Frank and family going down with him is the real concern....
0:51 I was picturing Mikes last argument with Walt before his death and the tone syncs perfectly with the scene lmao
YOU YOU AND YOUR PRIDE
@@bageljosher You just had to be the man 😑
1:50
I love how that one blonde haired kid in the back right is enjoying the whole thing
That kid is the Milwaukee Monster, Jeffrey Dahmer.
@@wham_baam_fan6917 YOOO he really do like Jeffrey Dahmer!!!
From the Movie at least idk about his IRL pictures
@@king__T me either, but what I do know is that his real father wasn't a police officer like in the show. His real father was a chemist with a PhD degree.
It's irony at its finest when a police officer raises a complete public menace...
@@king__T that kid straight up IS Dahmer tho, literally that's his name
@@king__T The kid is actually supposed to be Jeffrey Dahmer lol
Being fair, big bill asked for a punch
"I'll give you the first shot you little fucking sissy" Yeah Dad or no, elderly or no, you're getting your chin rocked for that
It’s scary how accurate this is with a lot of parents from this time period
Im a daddy’s girl and my boyfriend grew up with a dad like Bill unfortunately. I didn’t know about his childhood that much until this episode was on I said omg why is he cold to his old dad he’s being so warm with the kids ,Frank has issues. My bf kept saying he’s bullshitting and it’s all an act and he’s seen his dad do this too. I thought maybe he’d change his mind when Frank and Bill hugged and “reconciled” but nope he still said “it’s an act babe” . When we reached this scene where his dad broke character , he was like see? lol that punch was satisfying .
You wanna mindfuck? Close your eyes and you’re hearing Kuby and Mike Ehrmantraut arguing
Who
@youraveragejoe2 the voice actors of frank and william were also in breaking bad
This episode literally threw a punch in the gut. After I saw this episode, I literally hated Sue Murphy blaming Frank for the whole mess and selfish he was, but it was literally William Murphy who causes the problems so technically for me I don't blame Frank, William Murphy the one who literally just told him to punch him and call him a fucking sissy that's kinda what he get for pushing Frank too much. Every time I watched this episode, I literally get pissed at the part where Sue gets mad at Frank which makes me sort of hate her just this once in this episode
Frank should still know how to control his emotions. He makes a big scene in front of everyone. His kids would be a laughing stock of the school probably.
Technically Frank is the only one of the two with any sense of responsibility, but if she didn't put anything on her father-in-law or consider forbidding him from seeing her family....
Well atleast Bill called him out on it in a later episode
@Emontre waters I just wouldn't allow him near me or my kids...
Not to mention how Sue’s father and brother are assholes to Frank and she and her mother just let it happen. Sometimes she’s hypocritical, but that just makes her character that much more intriguing.
Bill had it comin'. Sure not in front of the kids maybe, but that was definitely a swing 35 years too late
Everyone's always so upset when abusers get abused
Because sometimes its too late for getting what they deserve like this scene Big Bill got what he deserved 20 years too late from his son because now it just looks like a son beating his old man even though its a way bigger picture
@@GiggyWiggy2086I mean he's literally still being a douchebag I don't see how its to late
Patrick Kuby and Mike Ehrmantraut having a fight.
Honestly in Breaking Bad this would've been so much more different.
I honestly can understand Frank. My dad was abusing me and my mom and I haven’t seen him in years. If I ever my dad I’m gonna punch him like I had to go through therapist and on meds because it was bad.
"What? He told me to hit him."
Tbh I would've said the same thing.
Man never put in his place for 73 years. He had it coming
Frank’s dad acts like my dad but instead of acting like a good guy he acts like victim. Nothing ever his fault and he always blames someone else.
same
I know how that feels
God i love this show. Sad it’s over.
I’m doing a show sailor moon earth
Their town has trouble by queen berryl
Maureen Murphy s alt ego is sailor earth
it's a shame. a lot of the voice actors passed away so I guess they can't continue
I really like the detail that both when Frank's mom and Frank retaliated, Big Bill landed the same way.
The hit his head on something, the fall, the look. It's all the exact same but the context is different.
Frank's mom was standing up to a horrible man at possibly his physical peak and a force to be reckoned with.
Frank is hitting a man nearing the end of his life and isn't a threat to anyone physically no matter how much he blusters. All he has are words.
I wouldn't consider words that jab at your trauma and abuse that you suffered at the hands of said person to be so trivial though. Also lets face it. He picked on and beat a little kid who was weaker then him. Now he's the weaker one. He simply got karma.
Still, his father was asking for it and let's face it. He had it coming.
Yeah, the sad part is that Frank regretted what he did and realized he was wrong. He could've shown his kids then that he had outgrown the influence of his biggest bully yet instead fell prey to his childhood fears and beated down a shriveled weak shell of a man.
And by the time he gets the bowling balls, he comes to realize that more than beating him up, what he truly wanted was for his old man to _apologize and patch up things with him and make the best with the time they had left._
That's what Frank wanted all along, to feel that warmth and bondness with his dad he never experienced.
He was almost ready to beat up Bill in the shop
@@ntinosaggelopoulos6718 Yeah, I was gonna say the same. It seemed like the only thing that stopped Big Bill was his "friends" were looking at him like: "What are you doing? 😠"
I like how this scene shows some things need to be let go and moved on. Big Bill definitely deserved that but Frank finally losing it just made him look just like his dad in front of everybody without realizing it. It shows a good message without pulling a cliché scene.
I like how as much swearing there is in this show, it’s ALWAYS impactful and kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth, like as soon as Frank said “you SON OF A BITCH” everyone turned and looked alarmed, it caught their attention. If it was Family Guy, nobody would be paying attention until Peter started throwing punches and there would just be a gag of him fighting for 10 minutes, here, it’s a massive buildup with Frank and Bill arguing being viewed as a significant moment. And instead of things getting more crazy, it all tones down with Frank being stared down by everyone in the theater. No last minute side comment from a random civilian, no cutaway gags to try to make it funny, the tone is set and it’s set well
Guy: He's an 80 age old man
Frank: He's only 73
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Notice how whenever hes heckling his son he takes out his pipe
Frank's a better man than me, I would have just kept swinging
This show hits too hard to home sometimes... But one of the top ten best scenes, it just goes too show sometimes you have to break the cycle and find peace or you'll continue to take it out on your family.
I love F is for family.
I want to feel good for Frank cause his dad was such a piece of shit, totally got what’s coming to him for damaging Frank - but this scene is just really sad 😞
I knew Big Bill was bad news when he yelled at Bill in the store.
this is a perfect representation of what raising a hateful child does to everyone around you. it hurts everyone below you, and then the hateful child comes back up to you and hurts you. and then no one can be happy any longer. complete destruction.
frank punches the new norm guy
1:50 Jeffrey Dahmer ... HE'S SMILING
Maybe that guy had something against Bill too.
1:01
Pianist: Mr. Murphys, take your seats. The play's about to begin.
Frank and Bill: Stay outta this, lady!
Ah your full of s**t
I never felt any remorse for his dad. Frank was always in the right ❤
I like how he took his time lit his pipe and called him Francine😂🤣😂
The pettines that this old bastard had cracked me down 😂
«You were just too sensitive
Francine»
To quote Tony Stark; "I'm not afraid to hit an old man."
Bill loved his kid. But he never respected him enough to put his Ego aside to think how he made Frank feel his whole life. it wasn’t until just before he died he realized he was more abusive than supportive and it messed frank up really bad. The real tragity is when he actually does want to apologize to frank sincerely but passes away before they can really have the moment.
I think this moment was the moment Frank forget he was arguing with an Ant. I mean he had all he's ever wanted in some respects. He has a loving wife that builds him up during the worst times, his oldest might be a screw up but at least he helps his Dad at work, his other son is a good kid who laters becomes a hockey star and his daughter is very smart for her age. And Frank has real friends who have seen him at his best and worst.
Frank just didn't get that he already won and if anything is Dad was jealous. Sure he can pretend to be the sweet old man, but his wife is gone, his son hates him, he lost the pride of his business and now he's old, weak, and see the end of the line waiting. All the while his son has everything he ever wanted.....sometimes we never know we are fighting an ant...dont fight the ant, just walk away
I'm glad frank did that and for big bill you were popping all that good shit a second ago now you got knocked the fuck out whats good now old man what's good now
Old man had it coming
Frank: my father is a worst dad ever.
Goku: hold my beer.
Goku es el mejor padre
Goku is a good father
The guy who spent years training and bonding with his son is worse than the guy who forced his to dress in a girls bikini for shedding a tear over pearl harbor?
Goku is an excellent dad. Stop letting DBZ abridged form your opinions.
As flawed as Frank is, he chased down Maureen and tried to apologize and owned up that he fucked up. Complete opposite of what Bkg Bill did to him.
Ah a classic tale. When the hate of one person overshadows the love of others
See I love this because we're all taught you can say whatever you want with no repercussions that violence isn't the answer. But in that moment big bill finally learned there are consequences, and that today violence was the answer. Because the question is how do I get someone to quit picking on me the answer was violence.
Buddy waited 35 years Just to punch his his dad once
Well he was always geaten abused and beaten by his dad when he was a kid-teenager
TEST YOUR MIGHT!
1:30
EXCELLENT!
Frank used Sky Uppercut!
A critical hit!
It's super effective!
Big Bill fainted!
@@leonnoel9661your frank is now evolving.
Bill Burr and Jonathan Banks could actually be related their so damn good at playing off eachother
Talk shit, get hit. Frank's only crime here was that it happened when he should have been paying attention to his kids.
I say Franks old man had it coming
Yeah he did, especially when he was being verbally abusive towards Frank, I know that him punching Big Bill in front of his daughter was not a good idea, but most people would be pushed around hard enough so much, that they will end up snapping from that bullying Frank was being given by his dad, and ends up attacking them, or punching them in the face like Frank did.
@@andrewpye2114yeah sooner or later you taunt a kid to hit he will hit. That’s what I did to my last bully, he acted big man in the halls and once he learned I’m much meaner and less sensitive about “fighting fair” the others left me more than well enough alone
We got so many unfinished stories from this show. Wishes they did one last season. Unfortunately many cast members have passed away. Will miss there voice.
Never was a punch to the face more justified. I’d have done way worse to the abusive bastard if it was me.
Big Bill and Cotton Hill should have a show together
Kuby punching Mike holy shit
Anyone notice right as it cuts out, Big Bill starts crying? Must’ve realized a lot of bad in that moment.
The reality set in for him
True shows how much of a animal he was not frank
The realization of why their dad is the way he is in Billy's and Kevin's faces just broke my heart. Generational trauma really is no joke, especially if they refuse to break the cycle.
I do commend Frank for at least trying to be better than his father.
Frank may have embarrassed Maureen and ruined her play but at least he didn't heckle her and made her feel like shit like Big Bill did.
The performances from blurr and banks are outstanding
1:28 way to go frank in front of the whole school play!!
1:30 Patrick and SpongeBob shocked face be like ö
Jesus. I get Frank is angry at his old man, but arguing in public and right before his kid's spectacle is just humiliating
To me this is heartbreaking because he got him back, but at what cost?
True that's the sad bit he genuinely was upset his daughter saw that that's the kicker to the heart
Kuby arguing with Mike Ehrmantraut
New and sadly the last season has been announced for Nov.25th but the date isn’t on the app nor has there been an actual trailer besides that 10 seconds of footage so it feels like Netflix is hiding the season so they can sabotage the viewership and cancel it
It was already announced back when season five was renewed it would be the final season. It was all part of the plan. Burr and Company has stated that they didn’t want the show to go on forever and they’re satisfied with it being the end
Woah paranoid much?
okay, full name and no pfp
"you get what you give"
1:50 Philip is still enjoying the show of maureen
DUDE THATS MIKE FROM BREAKING BAD
The one thing I don’t like about this video is how everyone is looking at Franke like he’s the bad guy.
Just like Frank, we realize as we Get older, who much we hated our Parents
Don't ever apologize to somebody who just recently stopped believing in Santa Claus.
I felt this way about my mother. Can't punch my mom though. My dad was an angel. Taught me how to cook and fight.
Frank punched William for not knowing Frank accidentally spilled the drink and for thinking Frank spilled the drink on purpose.
Ironically, after Frank punched Big Bill, the latter spilled the fruit punch that was on the table.
“The execution can proceed”
“AHHH YOURE FULL OF SHIT!!”
why’d that make me giggle
1:05 STAY OUT OF THIS LADY!!!!!
When we were kids my cousin was a major asshole. I try to keep the peace but I got sick of him treating me like garbage so I snapped and started choking him out. I wouldn’t have stopped if my grandma hadn’t have come in. My mother picked me up and she said she didn’t know to be either disappointed or proud of me
He did call him Francine and told him to punch him
Hey hands are rated E for everyone he did ask for it
Dark humor overlord: unlike bojack horseman frank did have the ball to punch the one who make his childhood a misery
He's an 80 year old man
No he isnt he is only 73 and if he can crawl he can brawl
I just realized this was Mike Ehrmantraut
“What he told me to hit him” 💀
I like how this opened some understanding for his family, like it was his father who made him this way
What?? He TOLD me to hit him😂😂😂
Fun fact: the voices for Frank and his father are both in Breaking Bad.
From what I’ve seen, Frank shouldn’t feel bad in the slightest. That old guy had it coming, and for a while.
he messed up his daughter's school play
@@B3llyk0 so? He’s had to put up with his father’s BS and bullying his entire life, and from what I understand, his father was already on the way to ruining the play and/or purposely instigating Frank. People have a breaking point where they just don’t care anymore, and in this case while it definitely wasn’t the best place to do this, it had to eventually, and I don’t blame him for reaching his limit.
What happened Bill you were popping all that good shit a second ago now you got knocked the fucked out what's good old man what's really good