Just like an real AR, you can not put the gun in safe till you’ve racked it and sent the bolt back. With the selector, you can adjust it by removing the grip and either tightening or loosening the screw that holds the ball bearing in place. Nice vid though.
Thanks for your reply, I don’t have experience with real ARs so I just wanted to clarify the issue, just in case I didn’t explain it properly in the video. The problem that I was referring to is that the GHK doesn’t go into safe even though the bolt is locked back. I noticed on my TM and WE, you are able to put it in safe when the bolt is racked back. If the real AR doesn’t go into safe with the bolt locked back it would be more realistic.
@@GBBEnthusiast normally with the m4 / ar15 platform, its a manufacturers choice weather to go for the realism or the easy-ness of putting the rifle into safe. it drives me up the wall that people cant just use 1 thing and 1 thing only, a bit like the GBBR mag situation when it comes to ar15s [thanks WE, you fixed it :D], i believe WE, GHK, and S&T / Matrix AR15s have the extra safety feature, sadly as i said, this isnt a mandatory feature... anyways, enjoying the vids my friend!
A lot of your issues I don't see as issues. I mean, realistically, the mag dropping out isnt ideal as if you bump the release, it will fly away. Quick mag changes are really only for show, and you don't use them in Real firefights. You hide behind cover where you'll have plenty of time to change. It's really only important in airsoft. In the Army, they Never focused on speed reloads. Also, pins shouldn't pop out relatively easy. You should be using a brass pin and small rubber mallet. The pins on my KSG are a bitch to get out. But usually in Real firearms that's a testament to the quality, as the easier it is for You to pop them out, the easier it is for the Gun to.
Some things that you may not see as issues other people may consider issues. For these particular issues, I don't see them present in other guns which is why I thought it would be a good idea to let people know. My objective is to show everyone and anyone looking to buy one of these platforms any issues or perceived issues I have come across. This is to aid them in making a better decision that will fit their needs. My preferences may be different from what other people are looking for so I try and find what they are looking for in order to make recommendations. I understand your point about real firearms needing to be more sturdy, but honestly I haven't run into any issues where the receiver popped out due to the receiver pins being easy to push out by hand on an airsoft gun. In the video, one of my points was if you had a jam in the trigger group and needed to clear it, you would need tools to get the receiver pins out which would be a major inconvenience. Thank you for sharing your opinion as I'm sure many people feel the same way as you do.
I'm a GHK M4 system guy for the majority of my airsoft career and yeah I do agree these guns can get really quirky sometimes (wobbly and poorly fitted receivers, stiff takedown pins and whatnot) but after getting past those hassles it's still a phenomenal and realistic platform nonetheless. But yes my one major complaint about GHK like you said is definitely the feed lips on their mags, somehow they're fairly easy to crack and this is when I really hate them. I seriously wish they could use more robust materials like steel or aluminum for the feed lips in their future gen mags instead of cheap plastic, that could easily solve the cracking problem and wouldn't add much additional weight to the mag since it's just a tiny feed lip. Anyways I appreciate you pointing out these issues with GHK for newcomers and veterans alike, sorry to see you're having a crappy experience with GHK, I hope you could eventually find a gun that suits your needs.
Thanks for your feedback! Don't get me wrong, the GHK is a great platform if you are aware of these issues and there are some really easy fixes. Unfortunately for me, I had to learn the hard way and after hearing so much about how great the GHK is, it just disappointed me how there were so many of these these minor issues. That being said every GBBR you buy is going to have it's quirks. I just wanted to dispel some of the myths and give firsthand experience because I was always wondering about how much better it could be. Not gonna lie when I first held the GHK I contemplated selling my 2 MWSs due to the outstanding build quality, but after the performance issues came up, I realized I would use the MWS for gaming and the GHK for training. Thanks for your comment, I'm sure a lot of people will benefit from your experience as well!
Regarding the lips, there’s one 3 seconds fix. Just grab a 6mm drill bit and make the hole wider. What you get is less resistance during the feeding process, no stress on the lips and way less stress on the nozzle. My GHK AK was 5 years old when I sold it, and I did it only because I had to move a country and couldn’t take it with me. Just make it a bit wider :)
The selector problem might be due to a deformed auto sear. It happened on my GHK and I just removed the auto sear. GHK guns can still fire full auto without the auto sear but please keep in mind that the rate of fire will be much higher and because there will be no auto sear to "slow down the bolt" it might lead to problems with the nozzle if you fire on full auto too much.
Good to hear you had good experiences with yours! I'm not trying to bash the platform by any means, but I'm just sharing my experiences with it. Do you think the DH mod is worth it? From what I saw, you need to change the valves and the price is over $40 per mag, not to mention you need to buy a CO2 tank and adapter which would also be additional costs. Also, I've never had a good experience with CO2 so I'm hesitant. Thank you for watching and commenting!
I've used my ghk mk18 for a year with approximately 60k shots and never had feed lips cracking. but i got spare feed lips just in case. i have the ML chamber with crazy jet barrel. stock chamber sucks.
Woah, we have the same name haha but yeah, I upgraded to the ML chamber with the crazy jet barrel too. That's great that your GHK runs without any issues. I think the extra mags I got were just bad because the mag that was included with the gun didn't crack yet, only the additional mags that I bought. That being said, it is a common problem with the platform so your mileage may vary. Did you have to replace anything other than the hop up after 60k shots? Thanks for your input!
I did change to a 75 degree rubber bucking since we have a limit here in the phil of 450 fps and 500fps limit for rifles with magnified scopes. mine shoots at 480 fps and i use .40 bbs. the issue i have now though is the bolt no longer locks. i already tried the hammer fix but still having issues. i will now try to grind the bolt's tiny reinforced steel part for the bolt catch since it is no longer straight.
@@thegbbrenthusiast5590 480 FPS? That's super high, how did you manage to get the FPS up so much? Aww man, that's unfortunate to hear that the bolt catch doesn't work anymore but if after 60k rounds the gun still works and nothing needs to be replaced other than that, I'm amazed. Unfortunately, my experience with GHK hasn't been as positive as yours. When did you buy your GHK? I got mine in 2019 and I heard the older ones are much better QC-wise.
hello bro, just a good old high powered nozzle and a 310mm crazy jet. that's actually lower now. i used to set it at 530 fps. haha. that was when i used 410mm barrel with a 6.01 ID. high fps is pretty normal here in the Philippines. Our snipers have a 550 fps limit we also have game sites that has open fps limits. haha. I got my mk18 brand new last june of 2021 and i never missed a weekend game even during the pandemic. We pinoys are hard headed. hahaha
@@thegbbrenthusiast5590 Good to hear! Yeah, definitely the temperature plays a huge factor in determining FPS. I would not want to get hit by your rifle that's for sure!
Regarding the feed lips issue, I noticed that you load bbs using the pen-type speed loader. Does that pen-type speed loader help minimise the likelihood of the feed lips cracking? Or normal speedloaders + ghk adapter are still fine?
Good question, I don't think that the pen-type speed loader decreases the likelihood of the feed lips cracking, since the problem still happened to me despite that being the only loader I use. I only use the pen-type speed loader because it came with the GHK and my TM speed loader doesn't work on the GHK. Thanks for watching!
So, I didn't catch this at first, but the reason GHK M4s don't take AEG rails is because AEG M4s are all TM spec, which is why WE and TM M4s do take them. GHK is closer to real steel spec, you just have to use the GHK barrel nut, and can put any real rail on. Infact, I believe Daniel Defense Rails for GHK are in spec with real DD rails, whereas TM DD rails are TM AEG spec. I believe VFC and KWA are the same, but i don't know because I only have TM and GHK M4s.
Good to know! I ended up putting an AEG rail on my TM with the help of an adapter. Have you tried putting a real steel rail on your GHK or is this based on your research?
@@GBBEnthusiast experience and research. GHK DD rail is almost exact dimensions as real steel. Plus, there was a person I know of who put a real steel rail on their GHK, but i can't remember brand. They had to get a different ghk barrel nut, but that's about it. Theres also reddit posts about people who put real rails on theirs, and the GHK Facebook group.
@@GBBEnthusiast so the guy i know, has a bunch a ghks, including a few m4s. He said ghost and RS rails is a toss up. He said his Mk18 took a geiselle, but wouldn't take nother RS; but took TM spec rails. He said his original M4 V2 took other RS, but needed a rethread but no aegs, but another V2 he recently bought took neither RS or aegs, only GHK, without adapter or rethread. His WE takes both AEG and RS. Another person posted on Reddit that their ghk M4 takes both AEG and RS (didn't say what the M4 or version was), but his kjw took RS. Haven't heard from anyone about vfc. But my tm takes AeG, i have madbull on there that for TM AEGs. But my Ghk didn't take it, which is what I bought it for. I had a RS DD Mk18 rail for my Ghk but my Ghk barrel is 12.5" and not 10.5" like a typical Mk18, so i sold it.
for problem 1, can't you just get a different magazine that is more durable and reliable that is compatible with the GHK and the feed lip and leaks will be avoided?
It may not be $1000 where you live but if you were to buy one new plus tax, it's $1000 over here. If you're including mags which are $100 a piece, it's going to be over $1000.
@@chriscolarusso652 It's possible, but then you would risk customs taking your gun. That being said, I prefer to buy locally even if it is a bit more expensive that way I'm sure I'll get it.
@@GBBEnthusiast Hmm. No. Evike has free shipping in US and Canada plus they take sales tax out of the total. It's a $550 gun, and each mag runs around $50-70. If you get 6 mags, it's under $1000.
Serious these 5 things are actually huge and do not justify the price of around 1000, - I never see anyone complain about these things mentioned for the TM MK18 MWS would that just be the overall better option, not to mention that TM is priced around 700,- I just want to know what the best MK18 GBBR would be, that is the most reliable, versatile and durable with most quality..
Thanks for your comment! For some, these things may be small but I just wanted to report the differences just in case it was something that was important to you as a buyer. Every GBBR has it quirks and even the TM has some issues that I’ll get to one day. The 1000 is 1000 CAD by the way. In Canada the TM and GHK are priced similarly.
@@GBBEnthusiast Interesting! In the Netherlands the price difference is significant (also low availability).. Would like to know more from someone who knows his stuff, when it comes to TM quirks and benefits compared to those GHK ones.. I am also on the fence about TM MK18 Next Gen AEG, needing to keep up with all those Novritsch SSR4 in the fields, and also show off for the price difference.. Im assuming that the TM AEG would be the overall best balance between GBB realism and AEG versatility - either way it is just a tough and expensive choice to make as long as GBBR is not perfect I might need to go AEG after all, I have been searching my eyeballs out for info trying to convince myself about GBBR, but it might come down to this conclusion.. Cheers!
@@SkywalkFPV When it comes to the GHK or TM, here are the issues that I ran into with my TM (I run propane): 1) The plastic buffer broke on both of my TM GBBRs. This is an easy fix because you can just buy a new buffer that is metal or a reinforced plastic buffer. 2) The nozzle spring snapped. This can be fixed by bending the snapped part of the spring into a u-shape with a pair of pliers or buying a new reinforced nozzle spring. 3) The last and worst thing is that the trigger is starting to develop the dreaded double firing on semi (like all WE GBBRs run into). After a deep cleaning of the trigger, the problem stopped but I still think there is potential for the problem to happen again. Until it happens consistently, I have a spare disconnector to swap in just in case. As for AEGs, I have only tried the TM HK416 NGRS AEG and it was a great quality AEG but it doesn’t have the same feel of a GBBR. If you want to be competitive, you might as well get an AEG, but even with the NGRS, I’d say in comparison to the GBBR it would only offer 40% of the feel of a GBBR at best. 1) The AEG stops firing when empty but you don’t get the feel of the bolt locking back. 2) 3-4 BBs still fall out of the magwell when changing mags 3) The recoil is nowhere near the same as a GBBR and you feel a bit of recoil in the grip where the motor is located and a bit in the shoulder. 4) You can’t rack the charging handle back to chamber a round like a GBBR. If these cons I mentioned don’t apply to you, then the AEG would be a fine choice. Thanks for your comment, and I hope this helps!
@@GBBEnthusiast Amazing! Thank you so much for all the pointers! Still a very tough decision to make, shoot me! I do like the maintenance that GBBR requires over the AEG.. And to upgrade all internals for an AEG to actually run good, comes down to twice the initial price of GBBR - but the longer term gas costs might eventually keep up with that.. I do think being able to be competitive is somewhat what airsoft has come down to, since there are no or less events for GBBR only - and you need to adapt for the multiple game modes and situations.. It is hard to beat the overall full potential AEG is able to offer.. But then again the simplicity of the GBB is just true beauty, it would at least always remain in my side arm - maybe just having that pistol on GBB is already enough for dealing with leaking magazines.. Talking about magazines I think there could actually be demand for having 70 ish rounds GBBR magazines, to lean somewhat more towards the sport than just realism you can always load 35 if u like.. It would have the same philosophy like the zet system in TM that sets itself apart from the internals from for example GHK.. Long story short thanks again for taking care, it was nice talking to you! This comment might not only help me but also others with their journey for how to empty their wallet most efficiently.. Cheers!
@@SkywalkFPV My pleasure! The maintenance of a GBBR isn't all that hard and is enjoyable when you have only a few GBBs. GBBRs are definitely at a disadvantage in field games but if you play CQB I don't think you're at THAT much of a disadvantage because the engagement distances are much closer. For me, the decision came down to which one I enjoyed more. I had AEGs that were mid-range but I found that I didn't like the hassle of charging/maintaining the batteries and I just used my GBBs more. Even when I only had a handgun, I would often run pistols only rather than using my AEGs even though they had many advantages. I guess it all depends on your preference and what you enjoy most. I also find that some people don't like gas at all because of the inconsistency but the experience of running gas overshadows all the cons for me.
thankfully I don't have any of those issue, as I have the GHK M4a1 block2 14.5in barrel. the "pmag" come out like easily, the metal mags a tad stiff but not as bad as you present it. I did have to break in the hop-up/bucking, as it was not very consistent at first. However it did get better over time as it wore in. the only real issue I had was my joules, I'm clocking in at 1.8J making me a DMR per my field rules. With that kind of rating .30 don't work well for me, so, I had to use .4 as I didn't have any .36 at my local field. I did contently keep maintained, by either before at a days game cleaning and lubing the rifle. I don't know if you got a "lemon" or a v1 with v2 internals. But so far for myself I haven't had much problems with mine. Yet, I'm glad you made this video made me re look over my rifle to see if I had any of those issues. great video and very informative, as you show your experience with the GHK rifle.
@@LocalAlpha I'm aware, just to cheap at the moment to get one. since it does have the longer barrel, may just keep it as a SPR since I'm getting DMR joulse.
could you tell me please what is your overall experience with the GHK AR-series GBBR? I want to buy a GBBR, had VFC 416-15 V.3, but it felt a bit toyish how light it was and the receivers felt a bit toyish too. On a 3 day milsim had issues with the nozzle venting mags too often to tolerate it (about 6-8 times overall). What is your overall impression of GHK? @@soulreaper9090
Sold mine which i bought 6 months ago, after i only had trouble with. Switched to the Marui MWS Platform and already played 18 games since then. LOVE IT!
Great to hear you’re happy with the MWS. Did you run into the same problems or were there other things that you experienced that I didn’t mention in the video?
@@GBBEnthusiast chopped BBs, cracking feedlips, leaking magazines, cracked HopUp chamber after 40minutes gameplay, bad quality check on the lower (The gap between lower and upper was very large), it also bothered me very much every time to remove the handguard to adjust the HopUp, plus that it is at least here in Europe is not so easy to get spare parts for the ghk platforms. I have not had any of these problems with the marui mws so far, I have bought spares and upgrades but have not needed or installed any of them yet. The great thing is also there are so many upgrade and spare parts available on the market. Sidenote: I was previously a Systema PTW player for 12 years.
@@shorty7943 Wow, it looks like the same problems and then some. Systema PTW platform, huh? Those things don't come cheap! Sounds like you're very happy with the MWS so far!
Did you hammer/angle your bolt stop? Because i noticed it wont always catch on mine because it need just a tiny bit more pressure from the magazine. Usually on empty mags. If you did, how did you do it?
Yes, I had to use a pin punch on the bolt catch to fix the bolt lock issue. I have a video on my channel with more details on how to fix some common issues.
@@GBBEnthusiast will check that out thanks. I’ll test it with some heat shrink first before i start hammering steel in my apartment and break something tho
Do you think there's any truth to the suggestion that using the slightly smaller JDM bbs (5.88mm) prevents the double feed and mag feed lip issue? Or were you using those to begin with?
Definitely, you'll probably circumvent the feed lips cracking issue with the JDM 5.88s. The only issues I find is that they would be hard to source since most places sell regular 6mm BBs (5.95mm) and it's possible that it may affect the accuracy. I've only been using regular BBs but if you want to be proactive about the mag feed lip issue, you can file the feed lips. Please note, that the mag that came with my gun has not cracked and only the mags I got in addition have the cracked feed lips. I would run it as long as possible without modifications, but if you feel the BBs are going in too tight, then check to make sure the feed lips are intact. Thanks for your comment!
@@GBBEnthusiast of course dude, congrats on the continued growth, almost 250 now! I actually ended up canceling my VFC order and going with a GHK for a few reasons. Hopefully I get a good one. I actually found the JDM 5.88s on amazon and evike for pretty cheap. Didn't know they were hard to find, so I'll stock up. My biggest problem is finding mags at the moment. Found a used looking but allegedly new V1 steel mag on ebay and I assume the M4 will come with a V2. I plan on Devil Hunter modding both so I ordered a steel buffer from samoon too. Hopefully the stock nozzle/hop up don't crap out on me instantly with the smaller bbs.
@@Shakshuka69 Thanks for your support! I feel like you're the only other person as excited as me for the channel growth and I appreciate it! Let me know how it goes when you get the GHK, it's definitely a solid rifle and if I knew of these issues beforehand I'm sure I would be much happier with it. Sad to hear you canceled the VFC order, I also wanted to get a VFC BCM MCMR to review and try. Good idea stocking up on the 5.88s because it will help with mitigating the feed lip issues. Yeah, definitely mags are an issue but I was super lucky because when I bought my GHK it came with 5 mags that were essentially brand new since the seller barely used it. The steel buffer is definitely going to give you a harder kick. Out of an abundance of caution be very careful when you load the mags, press the bolt release, and always check the chamber to make sure you don't double feed. If you decide to DH mod the mags let me know! I was very excited to DH mod my mags when I first got the GHK, but then I slowly realized it would cost more not only for the CO2 valves but the CO2 tank and CO2 fillups. Also, I've never had a good experience with CO2 (WE G17 CO2, APS CAM 870 CO2, M9 CO2) so I just decided to stay on propane/green gas since I have more experience and know-how to fix the problems. If you do still decide to go the DH route, keep me updated and update me when you get the GHK!
@@GBBEnthusiast haha I've always wanted to pick one of my many passions and actually commit to building a channel around it so it's exciting and encouraging to watch someone else do it from scratch. Plus you make great videos with lots of good information and there suprisingly isn't a lot of recent GBBR content out there so you definitely fill a void. I canceled the VFC because it was out of stock and I was worried about having to deal with the unfixable barrel wobble or mess around with shims to fix the failing bolt lockback mechanism. Would rather just deal with a broken hopup once and file some feed lips. The BCM MCMR seems like it may have solved those issues with revisions but there's no content out there and very little information to say. As far as the DH mod, I'm not really doing it to save cost. I just want the gun to be a little snappier and cycle faster and I really like the idea of being able to top off mags between reloads and keep the FPS and cycle rate consistent. I'll definitely let you know how it goes. My M4 should show up this weekend and I should have all the parts and mods done by next weekend.
@@Shakshuka69 I understand 100%, I've been wanting to make a channel for a while and when I finally uploaded my first video I was surprised it got so many views even though the production quality was so bad! Thanks for your kind words and comments like yours are one of the main reasons why I want to keep releasing more content! That's unfortunate that the VFC has an unfixable barrel wobble and bolt lock failure issues. To be fair, every platform has its issues but it highly depends on what you can tolerate. I guess you just have to understand the quirks of each platform and use them accordingly. I can understand where you're coming from about the DH mod. If you want more kick, high FPS, and the price is not a factor then it makes sense to go the DH route. Thanks for your support and keep commenting because your comments will help a lot of people!
This only applies to the stock hop up. I have had a few double feeds with the maple leaf hop up and found that the inner metal ring can bend when double fed, but it won't break since it's quite durable.
IMO the ghk m4s manufactured around late 2020 V2 are better than the previous ones. I have the GHK DD M4 (2020) and I experienced the magazine feedlip, Once you encounter that issue you immediately need stop using the magazine until you get the feedlip replaced. Yes, the Stanag style magazines are a little hard to pull out at first when it’s still new but over time they worn and just fall smoothly. You can also buy the pmag style magazines and they fall off easily compared to the stan magazine and also they don’t get cold fast. I live in NZ and I experience a lot of my magazines freezing due to cold temperatures pretty much everyday averaging 20°C. Base in my experience GHK magazines are very decent and they are very consistent per shot the only time I’d say they suck is when they get too cold and freeze. I also had the selector issue and the stiffness , my one doesn’t go to safe when the bolt carrier is locked back when the magazine is empty and after the bolt is released, then I can switch it back to safe again. We pretty much have the same issues mine also have a very tight receiver pins. The stock internal parts just doesn’t perform well especially when you’re in a cold environment. In my case I had to upgrade mine. I upgraded the stock nozzle to the ra tech ghk npas adjustable nozzle, changed the stock hop up unit to the tnt apsx ghk m4 metal hop up unit, the stock buffer and buffer spring - replaced it with a more poweful buffer spring for faster cycling. The GHK M4 is a really great gbbr ootb, mainly every issues I came across with it is due to cold temperatures etc. it is a very powerful gbbr I was able to push mine shooting at around 483fps with a .25g bbs with 14kg green gas and my npas nozzle open all the way. I am currently using .43g bbs to lower the fps a bit and increase the accuracy and ranges about 80 meters. My main issue with the GHK M4 is it’s accuracy. Great Video man thanks for sharing your experience 👌🏻
Thanks for your detailed answer! I have a video on how to fix the broken feed lips. After applying this fix, I haven’t had any issues regarding double feeds. So check that out if you have some broken feed lips and don’t want to buy new ones. Unfortunately, my stanags still do not drop free from the lower receiver, but they have worn in over time. They are still hard to remove from the receiver but are significantly easier than when it was new. I’ve tried some PMAGs in the store but experienced similar problems but haven’t owned them so maybe PMAGs over time might drop free. The selector switch still has problems going into safe when the bolt is locked back but isn’t as stiff as when it was new. The receiver pins are still tight but I can pull them out by hand when they are halfway through. Do you find the the TNT APSX increases the accuracy over stock? I have a Maple Leaf hop up chamber and it has terrible accuracy. I also upgraded my recoil spring and it makes the GHK much more satisfying to use. I also picked up the lightweight bolt and buffer which makes the GBBR super responsive. Wow, you were able to get the FPS so high! I ordered the high power nozzle from Samoon and when it comes in I’ll do an update. Thanks for watching!
@@GBBEnthusiast Your magwell on your receiver probably might be too tight, I got my pmags fall off easily on the first try when I bought them just the stan ones are little tight. Same with my selector it doesn’t go on safe when the bolt is locked until I release the bolt and it can return back to safe idk why but it can be really annoying. My receiver pins still really tight til then but I don’t mind it and it also holds my upper and lower receiver both really tight together and doesn’t wobble. I upgraded my hop up unit with the tnt ones it’s definitely better than the stock one ghk have but I also experienced some issues with the tnt ones. Firstly, they’re really expensive for a hop up unit. Secondly, the rubber bucking in the tnts is where I have been experiencing problems with, I’m not sure if normal or I’m the only one experiencing it but when I use it on the next day, every first few shots the bbs shoots really low and after maybe 5-10 shots, it’s back to being accurate again. Maybe due to the cold temperature that happens but it keeps happening. until my dumbass ended up buying another set of the hop up unit again. And same goes with the other one I bought from Evike and even made it even worse because the screws that locks the inner barrel in place made a dent inside the inner barrel they probably over tighten it with the screws. so what I did with the problem is I kept the hop up chamber and rubber bucking from tnt and bought the maple leaf crazy jet inner barrel luckily it fits and that’s what’s in my current mod right now. I haven’t tried the maple lead hop up one but with my tnt I am satisfied with most of the results it gives. I am able to push 400fps (ofcourse with the npas nozzle fully open) with .43 bbs up to 70-80 meters which is pretty decent.I don’t run my m4 as assault rifle around 20-30 meters I made it as a marksman since it’s pretty powerful. But anyways, It’s just a very expensive upgrade I wouldn’t recommend it unless you have an extra $$$ if ever you decide to go and buy yourself one, I’d suggest buying it from the official tnt website or any airsoft website straight from Taiwan. I’ll upload the video of my gbbr soon on my channel. Great review man 👍🏻 keep the videos coming
@@chimmie7584 Thanks for the update. I tried using PMAGs with my receiver and they still don't drop free. They definitely fit easier than when I first used stanags. I just upgraded with the Maple Leaf hop up chamber since it came with my GBBR when I bought it since it was used.
I mean all I can say is that Mil-Spec/Issue M16A2's/M4/M4A1's from my time pretty much had all the 'problems' you are calling out that aren't airsoft specific. Stuck receiver pins (tap with a cartridge), difficulty dissembling the barrel/Rails (GHK's system is almost identical in practice the a real, non-free floated, platform), bum safety's/stiff selectors (had more than one M16A2 in my company during basic have a selector that straight up broke, and no, knowing how a civilian AR trigger disconnector works doesn't translate to mil-spec rifles). If materials get stuck in the lower receiver of an AR, you are gona get a dead trigger, no two ways about it. And trading a non-free float to a free float, is rough to do, requires an armorer's wrench, and new D-rings/mounting rings. My understanding is that a great deal of the dimensions on the GHK are real-spec, so some of these various parts issues I think can be readily solved by just getting real parts. Also, as far as complaints on 'wobble' are concerned: Your $2500 Aero is not the same as a Colt/FN issue M-Type, and real guns often flex, and wobble, and creak a bit. The first time I held an M16A2 in the Army, and I had already been airsofting since childhood, I was shocked at how not solid it was, and that translated to new issued M4/M4A1's. There's this idea that real rifles are these solid, perfect sticks of metal that react not at all to movement and that is just not reality at all. M249's, both pre and post PIP, wobble and creak like the thing is gona break itself apart. These just aren't (mostly) valid complaints on the GHK, as they are more of typical real AR-Pattern rifle complaints, and by and large, GBB rifles are more akin to real steel than airsoft in practical mechanics. Even the feed lips issue is akin to overloading an M-Type STANAG and/or racking the bolt after a full mag is inserted. I wouldn't be surprised if either under loading the magazine by a few rounds and/or only ever loading a magazine into an open bolt would largely eliminate the issue (as a general rule, you should only ever rack the bolt *once* per usage on an AR: At the start of shooting. Baring malfunctions requiring a forward bolt to shot gun it, you should always have the bolt locked to the rear before inserting a new magazine, as dragging the bolt across the top of a full magazine is... inadvisable for long term durability of your bolt/carrier and your barrel as you'll start shooting excessive amounts of copper down your barrel and the average shooter ALREADY neglects to de-copper their barrels).
trust me it isnt, the GHK is a workhorse. it is a hit and miss rifle, but thats the fun. you will always have to invest and replace parts regardless if its a different company who made it. its just sometimes they can have really bad quality control, and that the parts arent to spec
The lip crack problem is easily to resolve,buy new one just 3 usd,and replace it is easily too,and just remember to use the loader with ghk tool,the crack problem will not show up
Yes, I also have a video on how to fix the feed lip cracks. Check it out if you haven’t already! The only problem I’m having with buying new feed lips is that they charge a lot for shipping. I tried to buy some small items off of Samoon (nozzle, c-clip, small plastic piece) and the shipping was already $35 which was more than the value of the parts. Yes, the parts are cheap but the shipping is always what gets you. Not to mention, I don’t want to spend more money (even if it’s just $3) on something that should work. Thanks for your comment!
I think the TM is a great performer, has great aftermarket compatibility, and only require a new buffer and you’ll be good for thousands of rounds with no fuss.
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Hey Jack, it must've been the youtube comment filtering as I haven't received your comment until now. Those are good suggestions you give, filing feed lips and lubing the GBBR, and I just want to save people more trouble by documenting the problems that I have had with the GHK. Some people might expect GHK to work out of the box as I did and I just want to show them some issues that I ran into. From the comments a lot of other people ran into similar things that I did too. Some things such as mags not going into the GBBR properly may be issues to some and not others so I think it's important to give a balanced perspective. I also made a video on how to fix common GHK issues and I have a video on things I love about the GHK M4. Thanks for your input.
@@MrJwolf989 Hmm, not sure about it. Maybe try posting it on another video? RUclips often removes comments that have certain trigger words. I usually refer to things as GBBRs or GBBPs, maybe if you change up the wording it may come through. Thanks for your kind words!
I got mine in 2018-19 it was around December so can't remember exactly its a fantastic pew and tbh tm seems to be head to head with ghk depending kn what you want. I've not really needed to worry about parts day one apart from the nozzle due to high fps (before I turned it into a dmr) And unless the tm has it I think putting any aeg barrel and bucking is a great plus
@@dr.cleric2437 Good to hear that your GHK works with no problems. I see your point about the AEG barrel can be a pro or con depending on how you view it. If you have an AEG barrel, you can R hop it which would be a pro, but considering most gas guns take VSR type buckings and barrels, it's unusual. Thanks for your comment!
@@dr.cleric2437 My pleasure, thank you for your comment! Did you have problems with your TNT hop-up chamber? I was talking to a fellow GHK M4 owner and he said not to get the TNT since his broke and to opt for the Maple Leaf instead.
@@GBBEnthusiast also i am try to put MFR XS rail , not so lucky , the delta ring is uncommon to other so i have to send to gun smith to re-cnc on the screw ring which not so fun to do haha
@@GBBEnthusiast Have you tried some rubbing alcohol and a cleaning cloth to remove any excess metal and paint still lurking in your magwell and on your magazines? If you encounter any problems with friction that was not there before of is not what should be, take it apart, clean it and lube it if needed. I think this would solve most of your issues with the platform.
Hammer needs to be pushed down to activate safety. Hammer has to battery positions. One for semi. One for full auto.
Hmm, weird. It doesn't happen to the WE or TM GBBRs that I've handled. Maybe it's just a quirk of the GHK?
@GBB Enthusiast It has nothing to do with GHK, that's how real AR firearms work. WE and TM are nothing like a real AR that's why they dont do that.
@@pauls.4860 Good to know, thanks for the clarification.
Just like an real AR, you can not put the gun in safe till you’ve racked it and sent the bolt back. With the selector, you can adjust it by removing the grip and either tightening or loosening the screw that holds the ball bearing in place. Nice vid though.
Thanks for your reply, I don’t have experience with real ARs so I just wanted to clarify the issue, just in case I didn’t explain it properly in the video.
The problem that I was referring to is that the GHK doesn’t go into safe even though the bolt is locked back. I noticed on my TM and WE, you are able to put it in safe when the bolt is racked back. If the real AR doesn’t go into safe with the bolt locked back it would be more realistic.
@@GBBEnthusiast normally with the m4 / ar15 platform, its a manufacturers choice weather to go for the realism or the easy-ness of putting the rifle into safe. it drives me up the wall that people cant just use 1 thing and 1 thing only, a bit like the GBBR mag situation when it comes to ar15s [thanks WE, you fixed it :D], i believe WE, GHK, and S&T / Matrix AR15s have the extra safety feature, sadly as i said, this isnt a mandatory feature...
anyways, enjoying the vids my friend!
A lot of your issues I don't see as issues. I mean, realistically, the mag dropping out isnt ideal as if you bump the release, it will fly away. Quick mag changes are really only for show, and you don't use them in Real firefights. You hide behind cover where you'll have plenty of time to change. It's really only important in airsoft. In the Army, they Never focused on speed reloads.
Also, pins shouldn't pop out relatively easy. You should be using a brass pin and small rubber mallet. The pins on my KSG are a bitch to get out. But usually in Real firearms that's a testament to the quality, as the easier it is for You to pop them out, the easier it is for the Gun to.
Some things that you may not see as issues other people may consider issues. For these particular issues, I don't see them present in other guns which is why I thought it would be a good idea to let people know. My objective is to show everyone and anyone looking to buy one of these platforms any issues or perceived issues I have come across. This is to aid them in making a better decision that will fit their needs. My preferences may be different from what other people are looking for so I try and find what they are looking for in order to make recommendations.
I understand your point about real firearms needing to be more sturdy, but honestly I haven't run into any issues where the receiver popped out due to the receiver pins being easy to push out by hand on an airsoft gun. In the video, one of my points was if you had a jam in the trigger group and needed to clear it, you would need tools to get the receiver pins out which would be a major inconvenience.
Thank you for sharing your opinion as I'm sure many people feel the same way as you do.
I have to give GHK some respect for realism if it double feeds just like the real thing does on rare occasions
Could be a pro for some I guess lol
Thats funny!
I'm a GHK M4 system guy for the majority of my airsoft career and yeah I do agree these guns can get really quirky sometimes (wobbly and poorly fitted receivers, stiff takedown pins and whatnot) but after getting past those hassles it's still a phenomenal and realistic platform nonetheless. But yes my one major complaint about GHK like you said is definitely the feed lips on their mags, somehow they're fairly easy to crack and this is when I really hate them. I seriously wish they could use more robust materials like steel or aluminum for the feed lips in their future gen mags instead of cheap plastic, that could easily solve the cracking problem and wouldn't add much additional weight to the mag since it's just a tiny feed lip. Anyways I appreciate you pointing out these issues with GHK for newcomers and veterans alike, sorry to see you're having a crappy experience with GHK, I hope you could eventually find a gun that suits your needs.
Thanks for your feedback! Don't get me wrong, the GHK is a great platform if you are aware of these issues and there are some really easy fixes. Unfortunately for me, I had to learn the hard way and after hearing so much about how great the GHK is, it just disappointed me how there were so many of these these minor issues. That being said every GBBR you buy is going to have it's quirks.
I just wanted to dispel some of the myths and give firsthand experience because I was always wondering about how much better it could be. Not gonna lie when I first held the GHK I contemplated selling my 2 MWSs due to the outstanding build quality, but after the performance issues came up, I realized I would use the MWS for gaming and the GHK for training.
Thanks for your comment, I'm sure a lot of people will benefit from your experience as well!
Regarding the lips, there’s one 3 seconds fix. Just grab a 6mm drill bit and make the hole wider. What you get is less resistance during the feeding process, no stress on the lips and way less stress on the nozzle. My GHK AK was 5 years old when I sold it, and I did it only because I had to move a country and couldn’t take it with me. Just make it a bit wider :)
The selector problem might be due to a deformed auto sear. It happened on my GHK and I just removed the auto sear. GHK guns can still fire full auto without the auto sear but please keep in mind that the rate of fire will be much higher and because there will be no auto sear to "slow down the bolt" it might lead to problems with the nozzle if you fire on full auto too much.
You answered your own question the 4 mags are nearly new as you said with time they will losen up 👍🏻
QC is ok again. Got some uppers that fit much better. Love this platform. Needs upgrade hop and feed lips but DH mod is so so good.
Good to hear you had good experiences with yours! I'm not trying to bash the platform by any means, but I'm just sharing my experiences with it.
Do you think the DH mod is worth it? From what I saw, you need to change the valves and the price is over $40 per mag, not to mention you need to buy a CO2 tank and adapter which would also be additional costs. Also, I've never had a good experience with CO2 so I'm hesitant.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
I've used my ghk mk18 for a year with approximately 60k shots and never had feed lips cracking. but i got spare feed lips just in case. i have the ML chamber with crazy jet barrel. stock chamber sucks.
Woah, we have the same name haha but yeah, I upgraded to the ML chamber with the crazy jet barrel too. That's great that your GHK runs without any issues. I think the extra mags I got were just bad because the mag that was included with the gun didn't crack yet, only the additional mags that I bought. That being said, it is a common problem with the platform so your mileage may vary.
Did you have to replace anything other than the hop up after 60k shots?
Thanks for your input!
I did change to a 75 degree rubber bucking since we have a limit here in the phil of 450 fps and 500fps limit for rifles with magnified scopes. mine shoots at 480 fps and i use .40 bbs. the issue i have now though is the bolt no longer locks. i already tried the hammer fix but still having issues. i will now try to grind the bolt's tiny reinforced steel part for the bolt catch since it is no longer straight.
@@thegbbrenthusiast5590 480 FPS? That's super high, how did you manage to get the FPS up so much?
Aww man, that's unfortunate to hear that the bolt catch doesn't work anymore but if after 60k rounds the gun still works and nothing needs to be replaced other than that, I'm amazed.
Unfortunately, my experience with GHK hasn't been as positive as yours. When did you buy your GHK? I got mine in 2019 and I heard the older ones are much better QC-wise.
hello bro, just a good old high powered nozzle and a 310mm crazy jet. that's actually lower now. i used to set it at 530 fps. haha. that was when i used 410mm barrel with a 6.01 ID.
high fps is pretty normal here in the Philippines. Our snipers have a 550 fps limit
we also have game sites that has open fps limits. haha.
I got my mk18 brand new last june of 2021 and i never missed a weekend game even during the pandemic. We pinoys are hard headed. hahaha
@@thegbbrenthusiast5590 Good to hear! Yeah, definitely the temperature plays a huge factor in determining FPS. I would not want to get hit by your rifle that's for sure!
lol the fire selector thing isnt an issue thats how they work in real life
Regarding the feed lips issue, I noticed that you load bbs using the pen-type speed loader. Does that pen-type speed loader help minimise the likelihood of the feed lips cracking? Or normal speedloaders + ghk adapter are still fine?
Good question, I don't think that the pen-type speed loader decreases the likelihood of the feed lips cracking, since the problem still happened to me despite that being the only loader I use. I only use the pen-type speed loader because it came with the GHK and my TM speed loader doesn't work on the GHK.
Thanks for watching!
So, I didn't catch this at first, but the reason GHK M4s don't take AEG rails is because AEG M4s are all TM spec, which is why WE and TM M4s do take them. GHK is closer to real steel spec, you just have to use the GHK barrel nut, and can put any real rail on. Infact, I believe Daniel Defense Rails for GHK are in spec with real DD rails, whereas TM DD rails are TM AEG spec. I believe VFC and KWA are the same, but i don't know because I only have TM and GHK M4s.
Good to know! I ended up putting an AEG rail on my TM with the help of an adapter. Have you tried putting a real steel rail on your GHK or is this based on your research?
@@GBBEnthusiast experience and research. GHK DD rail is almost exact dimensions as real steel. Plus, there was a person I know of who put a real steel rail on their GHK, but i can't remember brand. They had to get a different ghk barrel nut, but that's about it. Theres also reddit posts about people who put real rails on theirs, and the GHK Facebook group.
@@GBBEnthusiast so the guy i know, has a bunch a ghks, including a few m4s. He said ghost and RS rails is a toss up. He said his Mk18 took a geiselle, but wouldn't take nother RS; but took TM spec rails. He said his original M4 V2 took other RS, but needed a rethread but no aegs, but another V2 he recently bought took neither RS or aegs, only GHK, without adapter or rethread. His WE takes both AEG and RS.
Another person posted on Reddit that their ghk M4 takes both AEG and RS (didn't say what the M4 or version was), but his kjw took RS. Haven't heard from anyone about vfc. But my tm takes AeG, i have madbull on there that for TM AEGs. But my Ghk didn't take it, which is what I bought it for. I had a RS DD Mk18 rail for my Ghk but my Ghk barrel is 12.5" and not 10.5" like a typical Mk18, so i sold it.
for problem 1, can't you just get a different magazine that is more durable and reliable that is compatible with the GHK and the feed lip and leaks will be avoided?
This gun is not $1000.00. You can get the ra tech upgraded version for that much with an upgraded block 3 rail
It may not be $1000 where you live but if you were to buy one new plus tax, it's $1000 over here. If you're including mags which are $100 a piece, it's going to be over $1000.
@@GBBEnthusiast you can’t even order form AST?
@@chriscolarusso652 It's possible, but then you would risk customs taking your gun. That being said, I prefer to buy locally even if it is a bit more expensive that way I'm sure I'll get it.
@@GBBEnthusiast Hmm. No. Evike has free shipping in US and Canada plus they take sales tax out of the total. It's a $550 gun, and each mag runs around $50-70. If you get 6 mags, it's under $1000.
Serious these 5 things are actually huge and do not justify the price of around 1000, - I never see anyone complain about these things mentioned for the TM MK18 MWS would that just be the overall better option, not to mention that TM is priced around 700,- I just want to know what the best MK18 GBBR would be, that is the most reliable, versatile and durable with most quality..
Thanks for your comment! For some, these things may be small but I just wanted to report the differences just in case it was something that was important to you as a buyer. Every GBBR has it quirks and even the TM has some issues that I’ll get to one day. The 1000 is 1000 CAD by the way. In Canada the TM and GHK are priced similarly.
@@GBBEnthusiast Interesting! In the Netherlands the price difference is significant (also low availability).. Would like to know more from someone who knows his stuff, when it comes to TM quirks and benefits compared to those GHK ones.. I am also on the fence about TM MK18 Next Gen AEG, needing to keep up with all those Novritsch SSR4 in the fields, and also show off for the price difference.. Im assuming that the TM AEG would be the overall best balance between GBB realism and AEG versatility - either way it is just a tough and expensive choice to make as long as GBBR is not perfect I might need to go AEG after all, I have been searching my eyeballs out for info trying to convince myself about GBBR, but it might come down to this conclusion.. Cheers!
@@SkywalkFPV When it comes to the GHK or TM, here are the issues that I ran into with my TM (I run propane):
1) The plastic buffer broke on both of my TM GBBRs. This is an easy fix because you can just buy a new buffer that is metal or a reinforced plastic buffer.
2) The nozzle spring snapped. This can be fixed by bending the snapped part of the spring into a u-shape with a pair of pliers or buying a new reinforced nozzle spring.
3) The last and worst thing is that the trigger is starting to develop the dreaded double firing on semi (like all WE GBBRs run into). After a deep cleaning of the trigger, the problem stopped but I still think there is potential for the problem to happen again. Until it happens consistently, I have a spare disconnector to swap in just in case.
As for AEGs, I have only tried the TM HK416 NGRS AEG and it was a great quality AEG but it doesn’t have the same feel of a GBBR. If you want to be competitive, you might as well get an AEG, but even with the NGRS, I’d say in comparison to the GBBR it would only offer 40% of the feel of a GBBR at best.
1) The AEG stops firing when empty but you don’t get the feel of the bolt locking back.
2) 3-4 BBs still fall out of the magwell when changing mags
3) The recoil is nowhere near the same as a GBBR and you feel a bit of recoil in the grip where the motor is located and a bit in the shoulder.
4) You can’t rack the charging handle back to chamber a round like a GBBR.
If these cons I mentioned don’t apply to you, then the AEG would be a fine choice.
Thanks for your comment, and I hope this helps!
@@GBBEnthusiast Amazing! Thank you so much for all the pointers! Still a very tough decision to make, shoot me! I do like the maintenance that GBBR requires over the AEG.. And to upgrade all internals for an AEG to actually run good, comes down to twice the initial price of GBBR - but the longer term gas costs might eventually keep up with that.. I do think being able to be competitive is somewhat what airsoft has come down to, since there are no or less events for GBBR only - and you need to adapt for the multiple game modes and situations.. It is hard to beat the overall full potential AEG is able to offer.. But then again the simplicity of the GBB is just true beauty, it would at least always remain in my side arm - maybe just having that pistol on GBB is already enough for dealing with leaking magazines.. Talking about magazines I think there could actually be demand for having 70 ish rounds GBBR magazines, to lean somewhat more towards the sport than just realism you can always load 35 if u like.. It would have the same philosophy like the zet system in TM that sets itself apart from the internals from for example GHK.. Long story short thanks again for taking care, it was nice talking to you! This comment might not only help me but also others with their journey for how to empty their wallet most efficiently.. Cheers!
@@SkywalkFPV My pleasure! The maintenance of a GBBR isn't all that hard and is enjoyable when you have only a few GBBs.
GBBRs are definitely at a disadvantage in field games but if you play CQB I don't think you're at THAT much of a disadvantage because the engagement distances are much closer.
For me, the decision came down to which one I enjoyed more. I had AEGs that were mid-range but I found that I didn't like the hassle of charging/maintaining the batteries and I just used my GBBs more. Even when I only had a handgun, I would often run pistols only rather than using my AEGs even though they had many advantages.
I guess it all depends on your preference and what you enjoy most. I also find that some people don't like gas at all because of the inconsistency but the experience of running gas overshadows all the cons for me.
thankfully I don't have any of those issue, as I have the GHK M4a1 block2 14.5in barrel. the "pmag" come out like easily, the metal mags a tad stiff but not as bad as you present it. I did have to break in the hop-up/bucking, as it was not very consistent at first. However it did get better over time as it wore in. the only real issue I had was my joules, I'm clocking in at 1.8J making me a DMR per my field rules. With that kind of rating .30 don't work well for me, so, I had to use .4 as I didn't have any .36 at my local field. I did contently keep maintained, by either before at a days game cleaning and lubing the rifle. I don't know if you got a "lemon" or a v1 with v2 internals. But so far for myself I haven't had much problems with mine. Yet, I'm glad you made this video made me re look over my rifle to see if I had any of those issues. great video and very informative, as you show your experience with the GHK rifle.
you can change the nozzle for the one with an NPAS, which allows you to adjust muzzle velocity
@@LocalAlpha I'm aware, just to cheap at the moment to get one. since it does have the longer barrel, may just keep it as a SPR since I'm getting DMR joulse.
could you tell me please what is your overall experience with the GHK AR-series GBBR? I want to buy a GBBR, had VFC 416-15 V.3, but it felt a bit toyish how light it was and the receivers felt a bit toyish too. On a 3 day milsim had issues with the nozzle venting mags too often to tolerate it (about 6-8 times overall). What is your overall impression of GHK? @@soulreaper9090
Why not use some oil on the mags and the inside mechanism? I use Walter multicare and never have a problem with mags.
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Sold mine which i bought 6 months ago, after i only had trouble with. Switched to the Marui MWS Platform and already played 18 games since then. LOVE IT!
Great to hear you’re happy with the MWS. Did you run into the same problems or were there other things that you experienced that I didn’t mention in the video?
@@GBBEnthusiast chopped BBs, cracking feedlips, leaking magazines, cracked HopUp chamber after 40minutes gameplay, bad quality check on the lower (The gap between lower and upper was very large), it also bothered me very much every time to remove the handguard to adjust the HopUp, plus that it is at least here in Europe is not so easy to get spare parts for the ghk platforms.
I have not had any of these problems with the marui mws so far, I have bought spares and upgrades but have not needed or installed any of them yet. The great thing is also there are so many upgrade and spare parts available on the market.
Sidenote: I was previously a Systema PTW player for 12 years.
@@shorty7943 Wow, it looks like the same problems and then some.
Systema PTW platform, huh? Those things don't come cheap!
Sounds like you're very happy with the MWS so far!
Did you hammer/angle your bolt stop? Because i noticed it wont always catch on mine because it need just a tiny bit more pressure from the magazine. Usually on empty mags. If you did, how did you do it?
Yes, I had to use a pin punch on the bolt catch to fix the bolt lock issue. I have a video on my channel with more details on how to fix some common issues.
@@GBBEnthusiast will check that out thanks. I’ll test it with some heat shrink first before i start hammering steel in my apartment and break something tho
I had my ghk aug for over 2 years now. Had manny gamedays. Non of my 6 mags has ever cracked a feedlip. and i even use co2
Do you think there's any truth to the suggestion that using the slightly smaller JDM bbs (5.88mm) prevents the double feed and mag feed lip issue? Or were you using those to begin with?
Definitely, you'll probably circumvent the feed lips cracking issue with the JDM 5.88s. The only issues I find is that they would be hard to source since most places sell regular 6mm BBs (5.95mm) and it's possible that it may affect the accuracy. I've only been using regular BBs but if you want to be proactive about the mag feed lip issue, you can file the feed lips. Please note, that the mag that came with my gun has not cracked and only the mags I got in addition have the cracked feed lips. I would run it as long as possible without modifications, but if you feel the BBs are going in too tight, then check to make sure the feed lips are intact.
Thanks for your comment!
@@GBBEnthusiast of course dude, congrats on the continued growth, almost 250 now! I actually ended up canceling my VFC order and going with a GHK for a few reasons. Hopefully I get a good one. I actually found the JDM 5.88s on amazon and evike for pretty cheap. Didn't know they were hard to find, so I'll stock up. My biggest problem is finding mags at the moment. Found a used looking but allegedly new V1 steel mag on ebay and I assume the M4 will come with a V2. I plan on Devil Hunter modding both so I ordered a steel buffer from samoon too. Hopefully the stock nozzle/hop up don't crap out on me instantly with the smaller bbs.
@@Shakshuka69 Thanks for your support! I feel like you're the only other person as excited as me for the channel growth and I appreciate it!
Let me know how it goes when you get the GHK, it's definitely a solid rifle and if I knew of these issues beforehand I'm sure I would be much happier with it. Sad to hear you canceled the VFC order, I also wanted to get a VFC BCM MCMR to review and try. Good idea stocking up on the 5.88s because it will help with mitigating the feed lip issues.
Yeah, definitely mags are an issue but I was super lucky because when I bought my GHK it came with 5 mags that were essentially brand new since the seller barely used it.
The steel buffer is definitely going to give you a harder kick. Out of an abundance of caution be very careful when you load the mags, press the bolt release, and always check the chamber to make sure you don't double feed.
If you decide to DH mod the mags let me know! I was very excited to DH mod my mags when I first got the GHK, but then I slowly realized it would cost more not only for the CO2 valves but the CO2 tank and CO2 fillups. Also, I've never had a good experience with CO2 (WE G17 CO2, APS CAM 870 CO2, M9 CO2) so I just decided to stay on propane/green gas since I have more experience and know-how to fix the problems. If you do still decide to go the DH route, keep me updated and update me when you get the GHK!
@@GBBEnthusiast haha I've always wanted to pick one of my many passions and actually commit to building a channel around it so it's exciting and encouraging to watch someone else do it from scratch. Plus you make great videos with lots of good information and there suprisingly isn't a lot of recent GBBR content out there so you definitely fill a void.
I canceled the VFC because it was out of stock and I was worried about having to deal with the unfixable barrel wobble or mess around with shims to fix the failing bolt lockback mechanism. Would rather just deal with a broken hopup once and file some feed lips. The BCM MCMR seems like it may have solved those issues with revisions but there's no content out there and very little information to say.
As far as the DH mod, I'm not really doing it to save cost. I just want the gun to be a little snappier and cycle faster and I really like the idea of being able to top off mags between reloads and keep the FPS and cycle rate consistent. I'll definitely let you know how it goes. My M4 should show up this weekend and I should have all the parts and mods done by next weekend.
@@Shakshuka69 I understand 100%, I've been wanting to make a channel for a while and when I finally uploaded my first video I was surprised it got so many views even though the production quality was so bad! Thanks for your kind words and comments like yours are one of the main reasons why I want to keep releasing more content!
That's unfortunate that the VFC has an unfixable barrel wobble and bolt lock failure issues. To be fair, every platform has its issues but it highly depends on what you can tolerate. I guess you just have to understand the quirks of each platform and use them accordingly.
I can understand where you're coming from about the DH mod. If you want more kick, high FPS, and the price is not a factor then it makes sense to go the DH route.
Thanks for your support and keep commenting because your comments will help a lot of people!
So with the maple leaf hop up still break if it double feeds, or is that a problem exclusive to the original hop up?
This only applies to the stock hop up. I have had a few double feeds with the maple leaf hop up and found that the inner metal ring can bend when double fed, but it won't break since it's quite durable.
IMO the ghk m4s manufactured around late 2020 V2 are better than the previous ones. I have the GHK DD M4 (2020) and I experienced the magazine feedlip, Once you encounter that issue you immediately need stop using the magazine until you get the feedlip replaced. Yes, the Stanag style magazines are a little hard to pull out at first when it’s still new but over time they worn and just fall smoothly. You can also buy the pmag style magazines and they fall off easily compared to the stan magazine and also they don’t get cold fast.
I live in NZ and I experience a lot of my magazines freezing due to cold temperatures pretty much everyday averaging 20°C. Base in my experience GHK magazines are very decent and they are very consistent per shot the only time I’d say they suck is when they get too cold and freeze. I also had the selector issue and the stiffness , my one doesn’t go to safe when the bolt carrier is locked back when the magazine is empty and after the bolt is released, then I can switch it back to safe again. We pretty much have the same issues mine also have a very tight receiver pins. The stock internal parts just doesn’t perform well especially when you’re in a cold environment. In my case I had to upgrade mine. I upgraded the stock nozzle to the ra tech ghk npas adjustable nozzle, changed the stock hop up unit to the tnt apsx ghk m4 metal hop up unit, the stock buffer and buffer spring - replaced it with a more poweful buffer spring for faster cycling. The GHK M4 is a really great gbbr ootb, mainly every issues I came across with it is due to cold temperatures etc. it is a very powerful gbbr I was able to push mine shooting at around 483fps with a .25g bbs with 14kg green gas and my npas nozzle open all the way. I am currently using .43g bbs to lower the fps a bit and increase the accuracy and ranges about 80 meters. My main issue with the GHK M4 is it’s accuracy.
Great Video man thanks for sharing your experience 👌🏻
Thanks for your detailed answer!
I have a video on how to fix the broken feed lips. After applying this fix, I haven’t had any issues regarding double feeds. So check that out if you have some broken feed lips and don’t want to buy new ones.
Unfortunately, my stanags still do not drop free from the lower receiver, but they have worn in over time. They are still hard to remove from the receiver but are significantly easier than when it was new. I’ve tried some PMAGs in the store but experienced similar problems but haven’t owned them so maybe PMAGs over time might drop free.
The selector switch still has problems going into safe when the bolt is locked back but isn’t as stiff as when it was new. The receiver pins are still tight but I can pull them out by hand when they are halfway through.
Do you find the the TNT APSX increases the accuracy over stock? I have a Maple Leaf hop up chamber and it has terrible accuracy.
I also upgraded my recoil spring and it makes the GHK much more satisfying to use. I also picked up the lightweight bolt and buffer which makes the GBBR super responsive.
Wow, you were able to get the FPS so high! I ordered the high power nozzle from Samoon and when it comes in I’ll do an update.
Thanks for watching!
@@GBBEnthusiast Your magwell on your receiver probably might be too tight, I got my pmags fall off easily on the first try when I bought them just the stan ones are little tight.
Same with my selector it doesn’t go on safe when the bolt is locked until I release the bolt and it can return back to safe idk why but it can be really annoying.
My receiver pins still really tight til then but I don’t mind it and it also holds my upper and lower receiver both really tight together and doesn’t wobble.
I upgraded my hop up unit with the tnt ones it’s definitely better than the stock one ghk have but I also experienced some issues with the tnt ones. Firstly, they’re really expensive for a hop up unit. Secondly, the rubber bucking in the tnts is where I have been experiencing problems with, I’m not sure if normal or I’m the only one experiencing it but when I use it on the next day, every first few shots the bbs shoots really low and after maybe 5-10 shots, it’s back to being accurate again. Maybe due to the cold temperature that happens but it keeps happening. until my dumbass ended up buying another set of the hop up unit again. And same goes with the other one I bought from Evike and even made it even worse because the screws that locks the inner barrel in place made a dent inside the inner barrel they probably over tighten it with the screws. so what I did with the problem is I kept the hop up chamber and rubber bucking from tnt and bought the maple leaf crazy jet inner barrel luckily it fits and that’s what’s in my current mod right now. I haven’t tried the maple lead hop up one but with my tnt I am satisfied with most of the results it gives. I am able to push 400fps (ofcourse with the npas nozzle fully open) with .43 bbs up to 70-80 meters which is pretty decent.I don’t run my m4 as assault rifle around 20-30 meters I made it as a marksman since it’s pretty powerful. But anyways, It’s just a very expensive upgrade I wouldn’t recommend it unless you have an extra $$$ if ever you decide to go and buy yourself one, I’d suggest buying it from the official tnt website or any airsoft website straight from Taiwan.
I’ll upload the video of my gbbr soon on my channel.
Great review man 👍🏻 keep the videos coming
@@chimmie7584 Thanks for the update. I tried using PMAGs with my receiver and they still don't drop free. They definitely fit easier than when I first used stanags.
I just upgraded with the Maple Leaf hop up chamber since it came with my GBBR when I bought it since it was used.
I mean all I can say is that Mil-Spec/Issue M16A2's/M4/M4A1's from my time pretty much had all the 'problems' you are calling out that aren't airsoft specific. Stuck receiver pins (tap with a cartridge), difficulty dissembling the barrel/Rails (GHK's system is almost identical in practice the a real, non-free floated, platform), bum safety's/stiff selectors (had more than one M16A2 in my company during basic have a selector that straight up broke, and no, knowing how a civilian AR trigger disconnector works doesn't translate to mil-spec rifles). If materials get stuck in the lower receiver of an AR, you are gona get a dead trigger, no two ways about it. And trading a non-free float to a free float, is rough to do, requires an armorer's wrench, and new D-rings/mounting rings. My understanding is that a great deal of the dimensions on the GHK are real-spec, so some of these various parts issues I think can be readily solved by just getting real parts.
Also, as far as complaints on 'wobble' are concerned: Your $2500 Aero is not the same as a Colt/FN issue M-Type, and real guns often flex, and wobble, and creak a bit. The first time I held an M16A2 in the Army, and I had already been airsofting since childhood, I was shocked at how not solid it was, and that translated to new issued M4/M4A1's. There's this idea that real rifles are these solid, perfect sticks of metal that react not at all to movement and that is just not reality at all. M249's, both pre and post PIP, wobble and creak like the thing is gona break itself apart.
These just aren't (mostly) valid complaints on the GHK, as they are more of typical real AR-Pattern rifle complaints, and by and large, GBB rifles are more akin to real steel than airsoft in practical mechanics. Even the feed lips issue is akin to overloading an M-Type STANAG and/or racking the bolt after a full mag is inserted. I wouldn't be surprised if either under loading the magazine by a few rounds and/or only ever loading a magazine into an open bolt would largely eliminate the issue (as a general rule, you should only ever rack the bolt *once* per usage on an AR: At the start of shooting. Baring malfunctions requiring a forward bolt to shot gun it, you should always have the bolt locked to the rear before inserting a new magazine, as dragging the bolt across the top of a full magazine is... inadvisable for long term durability of your bolt/carrier and your barrel as you'll start shooting excessive amounts of copper down your barrel and the average shooter ALREADY neglects to de-copper their barrels).
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Thank you so much for information
Better get a VFC or TM. GHK only seems like a good wallhanger 😳
trust me it isnt, the GHK is a workhorse. it is a hit and miss rifle, but thats the fun. you will always have to invest and replace parts regardless if its a different company who made it. its just sometimes they can have really bad quality control, and that the parts arent to spec
@@debitcardairsoft is it still work it to buy a new ghk? I keep hearing people talk about qc issues
The lip crack problem is easily to resolve,buy new one just 3 usd,and replace it is easily too,and just remember to use the loader with ghk tool,the crack problem will not show up
Yes, I also have a video on how to fix the feed lip cracks. Check it out if you haven’t already!
The only problem I’m having with buying new feed lips is that they charge a lot for shipping. I tried to buy some small items off of Samoon (nozzle, c-clip, small plastic piece) and the shipping was already $35 which was more than the value of the parts. Yes, the parts are cheap but the shipping is always what gets you. Not to mention, I don’t want to spend more money (even if it’s just $3) on something that should work.
Thanks for your comment!
Hi What do you think it about ?
Tokyo Marui M4A1 MWS GBB With ZET System
I think the TM is a great performer, has great aftermarket compatibility, and only require a new buffer and you’ll be good for thousands of rounds with no fuss.
@@GBBEnthusiast ✌️
you can't compare GHK system with Marui or WE system. They are not even close.
In what ways? TM and GHK are around the same price point.
@@GBBEnthusiast they both are totally different system
@@dudeguy3960 Okay, which system do you think would be a fair comparison for the GHK?
@@GBBEnthusiast vfc, viper tech
@@dudeguy3960 Okay, I'll look to pick one up in the future if my finances allow. Thanks for the recommendations.
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Hey Jack, it must've been the youtube comment filtering as I haven't received your comment until now. Those are good suggestions you give, filing feed lips and lubing the GBBR, and I just want to save people more trouble by documenting the problems that I have had with the GHK. Some people might expect GHK to work out of the box as I did and I just want to show them some issues that I ran into. From the comments a lot of other people ran into similar things that I did too. Some things such as mags not going into the GBBR properly may be issues to some and not others so I think it's important to give a balanced perspective. I also made a video on how to fix common GHK issues and I have a video on things I love about the GHK M4.
Thanks for your input.
@@MrJwolf989 No worries, if you find it post it here. I'm sure a lot of people would find it helpful.
Thanks for your understanding.
Not sure how this happened but my comment got deleted a second time.
@@MrJwolf989 Hmm, not sure about it. Maybe try posting it on another video? RUclips often removes comments that have certain trigger words. I usually refer to things as GBBRs or GBBPs, maybe if you change up the wording it may come through.
Thanks for your kind words!
Are all ghk's like this? I really had my mind set on one
I don’t think all GHKs are like that especially if they’re pre-2019 models, but that is just my experience with them.
I got mine in 2018-19 it was around December so can't remember exactly its a fantastic pew and tbh tm seems to be head to head with ghk depending kn what you want.
I've not really needed to worry about parts day one apart from the nozzle due to high fps (before I turned it into a dmr)
And unless the tm has it I think putting any aeg barrel and bucking is a great plus
@@dr.cleric2437 Good to hear that your GHK works with no problems. I see your point about the AEG barrel can be a pro or con depending on how you view it. If you have an AEG barrel, you can R hop it which would be a pro, but considering most gas guns take VSR type buckings and barrels, it's unusual.
Thanks for your comment!
@@GBBEnthusiast I have the tnt hop unit and im quite chuffed with that :) thank you for replying
@@dr.cleric2437 My pleasure, thank you for your comment!
Did you have problems with your TNT hop-up chamber? I was talking to a fellow GHK M4 owner and he said not to get the TNT since his broke and to opt for the Maple Leaf instead.
Tokyo Marui hop up is metal in Mk18 version
Yes, I think out of all the brands GHK is the only one that comes in plastic.
@@GBBEnthusiast I decided to go with TM MK18! both have flaws but TM aftermarket upgrades are better!
It is just a toy gun after all. With our resources, get a real steel to have a fun.
Gas no funcionan mal tiempo helados y Aser ajustes
If it drop free it will break your gbb mag
QC is really bad… And GHK they are not allow user feedback.
Sad to hear that they don't take customer feedback. It's a great platform for training when the issues are ironed out. Thanks for your comment!
tm mws all day
It is a very high-quality GBBR, not perfect but a top performer.
@kevin pierson I just ran my TM in 5 degree weather for a game and it ran without any hiccups. Performance-wise it’s definitely there.
wow thats great then u dont need that riffle so you can send it to me and ill take care for you buddy
Love your vid, i'm GHK fan, i got a bit cheaper, but all issue here is true, and seem GHK don't want to fix this at all LOL
Thanks for the kind words! Some of them are really easy fixes but it’s definitely still annoying because it’s one of the top tier brands.
@@GBBEnthusiast also i am try to put MFR XS rail , not so lucky , the delta ring is uncommon to other so i have to send to gun smith to re-cnc on the screw ring which not so fun to do haha
You answered your own question the 4 mags are nearly new as you said with time they will losen up 👍🏻
So far only 2 out of the 5 mags have loosened up. Maybe they will drop free in another year or two.
@@GBBEnthusiast Have you tried some rubbing alcohol and a cleaning cloth to remove any excess metal and paint still lurking in your magwell and on your magazines? If you encounter any problems with friction that was not there before of is not what should be, take it apart, clean it and lube it if needed. I think this would solve most of your issues with the platform.