MTI route to UK|CPSP MTI | Guide to MTI route
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- A detailed description about the eligibility, process, expenses, pros and cons of working in UK through MTI route.
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Jazakallah brother ! Thats really helpful information 👍
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What is the total fees of MTI for nautical sciences 2 years program kindly guide
Aoa wajid bhai... kindly make a vedio about mti route other than cpsp. Abt Process n requirement... if one hv cleared fcps n mrcp 1 and 2 theory...
wsalam. Sure I will make a separate one on that as well. but personally I think if you have completed FCSP training or have MRCP 1 and 2 then you should opt for non CPSP route. the process is essentially the same except that you have to make an account tracjob.com to look for MTI jobs, instead of CPSP website.
Kindly make video for suggestions if any one have cleared MRCP paces …then procedure to apply for job or other opportunities options like no training job over there….thanks
@@ashokkumar-tw6zo sure I will
Salam' I want to ask k es training k bad agr hm Pakistan ayen to Kya FCPS krty wakht hmary ye 2 years uk count hongy FCPS my? Or Kya procedure hy eska ,kindly bta den.
Wsalam
Yes.. these two years will be counted in your training
Aoa Dr Wajid. Thanks for the detailed information.
Does our gmc lasts after completion of 2 years? Or it will be cancelled
Or we have to pay retention fee??
Any role of cv in this process??
Thanku
Wsalam
Yes the GMC registration is permanent and you will retain it as long as you are paying the annual fee.
And CV definitely matters specially if you have done some research.
Thanku so much
@@mohudisahahmed6200 you are welcome
CPSP MTI route is only a consideration while you are doing the pgship?
Once one finish the 4 years residency, only option can be non. Cpsp mti route?
Yes it could be either non-cpsp MTI or senior fellowship once you clear FCPS exam
@@thetwodocs thanks for valuable time sir.
Without clearing fcps you cannot apply for junior/senior clinical fellow job via a tier 2 visa in any way. Did i say right?
Asking because someone told me to try for job via tier 2 visa but i haven't cleared fcsp. Just have imm.
Aoa, do you recommend this pathway for cardiology trainees with respect to hands-on skills?
Wsalam
There is definitely a drawback when it comes to hands on skills.
So its up to you if you are interested in better basic training or more interventional skills.
Very Well Explained
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Dr wajid what about gynae ppl?
What if someone have completed training in gynae, part 2 not done.
OET done.
Then whats is criteria if someone dont want to avail cpsp route??
You can directly contact the royal college . Please find below the link for non-CPSP MTI. If you have completed your training then non-CPSP MTI is the better route.
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Very informative piece of knowledge Dr. Much helpful. God bless You.👍
I need a suggestion/ your guidance, Hope u won’t mind responding.
Currently I am working as resident cardiology R-1 (Over all R3), my one year of speciality will be completed by feb of 2024. I hv cleared OET,IMM & Verified with EPIC. Along with that I have also cleared MRCP-1 & MRCP-2.
I have recently applied for uni of Birmingham MTI cpsp scholarship in cardio speciality.
Now, I just wanna ask that;
1. what are the chances of me getting selected for the program.
2. I am also planning to sit PACES in June next year. So what should I do , weather I should go for this scholarship or just don’t get diverted & sit in my PACES & then come to UK.?
Plz put your thoughts on these 2 questions , I will be highly thankful.
Glad you liked the video.
I would suggest you to go for MTI program. This way your remaining training will be counted and you can sit in PACES exam here in UK.
With MRCP 1 and 2 you definitely have an edge over others and have better chances of selection.
@@thetwodocs thank you for your kind response. I have another query,if u have any idea.!
Currently I have applied for CPSP MTI-UBH scholarship, once I am selected for july-2024, of which the confirmation calls will be given during january 2024. What if I quit residency from January & direct join UHB in july. Will cpsp allow it?
@@Med_thrills no once you accept CPSP contract you are bound to complete 2 years of MTI program.
Otherwise CSPS can take legal action against you
@@thetwodocs no i m not talking about to leave after joining MTI. Em saying that MTI training will begin from july-2024 so what if I take break from my training from january-2024 ( 4-5 months before) from my training back at home. Is this allowed?
@@Med_thrills you must be in clinical practice for last 12 months before starting MTI. Otherwise you’re GMC will be at stake
If your are a gynae resident
first
Can we come to uk through cpsp mti route after fcps part 2?
If yes then
Which time is better to come to uk through cpsp MTI after imm or after fcps part 2?
I am asking this because how much hands on experience do we get if we plly for gynae obs mti?
Second can we apply for it after mrcog part 1?
Its better to come after IMM. As the 2 years during MTI would count as your FCPS training period.
Post FCPS there won’t be much to take away from MTI program other than nhs experience
Great 👍 👌
Thank you! Cheers!
Sir what are the possibilities after MTI ? Will MTI help in getting a consultant post in Middle East ? Chances of getting CESR after MTI ?
MTI experience will not help you for consultant job in middle east but you can get opportunity for CESR after MTI
I have 3 years training as an MO in pakistan.Can i apply for MTI if I have cleared OET and MRCP part1 ?
You need either IMM or both MRCP 1& 2 to apply for MTI program
Aoa i am ophthalmologist..passed ny fcps in nov 2021...can i choose this MTI pathway..can we get MTI jobs other than cpsp
Wsalam.
I would suggest you to go for non CPSP MTI.
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Do we have to work as SHO after getting selected post IMM or some other level ? Bcz as far as I know SHO is a junior level.
Yes you start as a SHO, they would assess you for few months and if you are competent enough then they promote you to Reg level
@@thetwodocs Thank you sir. But it would be considered as our training even if we are on SHO level post IMM ?
@@KashifKxhan yes these 2 years will be counted as your training period
Sir internship ke baad agar 1 year int med me house staffship kar liya aur mrcp 1 clear kiya to apply kar sakte hay mti me?
you need at least MRCP 1 if you are applying for non-CPSP MTI pathway.
Hello .. my husband has MD training in pediatrics(exam not done ) with 4 to 5 years experience in paediatrics is he eligible for MTI route .. if no than what could be other possible route for him
Hi
Unfortunately MD is not considered eligible for MTI. He will have to do PLAB
Mbbs with 6 years of experience and diploma in family medicine is eligible for this pathway?
you need atleast MRCP 1/2 or IMM
AOA Bro,I really appreciate your efforts.I have completed my MS Ophthalmology training from KEMU/Mayo Hospital ,am I eligible??or another route for me ??
wsalam.
thank you for the appreciation. it means a lot.
regarding your query, unfortunately MTI route is currently just for FCPS trainees/ MRCP. In your case you will have to do PLAB to get GMC
No i think who complete the MS IN INDIA THEY BETTER WAY FOR THEM IS MRCP NOT PLAB..AS by Mrcp they will get entry into The SPECIALTY TRAINING..ur 4 yrs0will be saved..beware see other people videos also DR Suman videos may help
Assalam alikum bhai. I have done my MS in general surgery and currently working as general surgeon in kashmir. How do it get MTI fellowship
Wsalam
Unfortunately they don't consider MS for MTI.
You need to do MRCS to get MTI offer
A.o.a,very informativ ,ihv done fcps 2 in obs gyna in july 2022 am gov emply ,want to move with my two kids ,kindly guide m aboute routes ,either through cpsp or other ,
Wsalam
If you have completed your FCPS then I would suggest non CPSP MTI route
@@thetwodocs thanks Dr ,kindly guide ,non cpsp route,,ist step from where to start ,shall be very thankful
@@draishasoomro2980
Please find the link for non-CPSP MTI below. Hopefully it will be helpful
ruclips.net/video/xp3Ewc_KAHM/видео.html
I have done FCPS Plastic Surgery, OET passed. I have tried 2 times previously but I didnt even get an interview call. What could be the reason. And how can i apply for MTI except for CPSP route.
Sorry to know about that. The reason for this could be that most of the MTI seats are for medicine and allied fileds. The Surgical subspecialty demand is much less here.
Anyhow you can try non-CPSP MTI. Create an account on tracjob.com and keep applying directly for nhs jobs
Can't open this link
@@doctorthree5921 you can go on Google and type tracjobs. It would show the link
Salam sir. Im a fresh graduate and only have house job experience. Is there any way to get GMC registration and job in uk other than plab pathway plz tell.😊
Wsalam.. currently PLAB/MRCP and MTI are the three pathways for GMC in UK
Hey. Just wanted to confirm how many seats do you've to offer for CPSP scholarship to the UK and the Ireland ? Like how many are the shortlisted candidates biannually ? Specifically in general surgery.
Please write back to me. I'll look forward
depends upon the requirement of hospitals in UK. there is no fixed number
@@thetwodocs alright perfect. Thankyou for the help. God bless you. any rough idea on the number, i asked one senior and he was like that's around 20 in g. surgery and all specialities from all over Pakistan and then another one who is currently there told me the number is 4?
@@humnaarshad5352 20 in all specialities ?
Hi Doctor, can one apply for CPSP my junior fellow post before clearing imm? If can't apply then if he not passes IMM on the first attempt or applies after IMM then the third year will already be going, remaining one year.…?
Plz clear this
You can’t apply for CPSP pathway unless you have done IMM.
It doesn’t matter if you apply in third or fourth year.
I myself came through CPSP MTI after I had completed my training and was preparing for part II exam
If I apply after Imm that will be my third year going on will I go for junior fellow two-year program?
@@JoeDispanzae yes you will get junior fellow post unless you have cleared part II
@@thetwodocs thanks Dr
Asslamulekum sir, My sub-speciality is cardiology & its not included into MTI subspecialties. So can I apply for another speciality?
have you completed your training?
if you have completed your training then you can even apply in medicine or Ed but if not then apply in cardiology whenever seats open as your time here counts in your training
And also should we apply through Cpsp or rcog website ? And if we r govt employee do we need noc or? Is it necessary that we r employed n no gap of 1 year plx guide a
if you have completed MRCOG then I would suggest you to apply independent of CPSP.
Also you need NOC if you are a government Job. for GMC you must be in practice for last 01 year
Hey Dr Wajid
Can you kindly guide me that after completing MTI and getting done with FCPS, is one eligible to apply for ST3 or does the contract not allow you to get into UK residency program.
yes you can apply for residency program. rather almost all of MTI doctors are currently doing residency here except for a few
@@thetwodocs Thank you for your response.
@@aaishashahbaz7204 you are welcome
Assalamualaikum.....i want to ask if someone appears in plab 1 .... would he be eligible for exchange route
Wsalam. You won’t be eligible for MTI in case you have failed PLAB
@@thetwodocs and if I pass plab 1?
@@sikandarhayat4731 then you would be eligible but I would suggest you to commit to one, either PLAB MTI
Sir my son has passed MBBS may 2023.and his wife bsc nursing and just join whittington hospital NHS Trust in uk. Any scop for my son. Can he join any hospital in London or do the MRCP or MRCS or MTI please told me about this chanal for my son please sir
I would suggest him PLAB because MTI is for those who have post graduate training and are in continuous clinical practice in last 12 months
Hello sir
I have mrcp part 1 and 2 with 2 years of post internship experience, do you think i can manage a registrar post with 1-2 months of shadowing? Getting an MTI post for junior level is very hard.
hi.
you wont be getting registrar post directly unless you complete your MRCP. however if you start as junior fellow with your experience you can be promoted to registrar soon.
@@thetwodocs thank you
Hi doc, can somebody who has done 2 year Fcps in internal medicine and now doing neurology Fcps training can be apply for internal medicine mti cpsp program or you should be in internal medicine?
Yes you can apply for both internal medicine and neurology
Is anesthesia exposure also limited?
No
Only surgery and medical specialities with procedures have limited hands on
Aoa sir ,if i do my pulmonology training through mti and cleared my paces exam in uk ,kya baad m uk m frcp k liye eligible hu ya please mjy guide krain
no, for that you would need to get into pulmonology training in UK after MRCP
Can’t I work after 2 years in uk if I take the mti route?
Yess definitely
assalam o allium
currently i start training at cardiology but seat announce for cpsp mti uk has no cardiology in it can i apply for GM or nephro for mti plz guide thanks
Wsalam
I would suggest to apply in general medicine they would later on move you to cardiology once you are here
thank you bhai
Training is completed in obs and gynae and also imm clear and also mrcog part1 clear now i apply for oet but test is on November can i apply for mti scheme in this year mean form is available on cpsp site on 10 / oct 2022 kindly give me good suggestions???
normally they consider only OET pass candidates but I would suggest that it is worth giving try. upload your OET confirmation email with other documents
Sure
Hello sir, i am a third year pediatric resident. Can you please inform is it better to give mrcp or go for mti ? And do i require a work experience after post graduation for mti
Hi just to clarify, are you doing post graduation in paediatrics?
@@thetwodocs yes sir , i am doing post graduation in paeds
@@shakambrisinha6246 it’s better to go for MTI then. This way rest of your FCPS training would be counted during your MTI period
@@thetwodocs than you sir
Is MTI available in Radiology speciality??
I haven’t come across any radiology posts ever
Assalamualaikum.... I have done my 3 years MD followed by Cardiology 3 year followed by 2 years of interventional fellowship..... Is MTI good for me.....please help with your response.
Wsalam
Just want to clerify wether you have done FCPS or MD in cardiology?
@@thetwodocs Thank you for your response..... Actually I am from India....after completing 6 year MBBS , I did my MD in medicine for three years f/ b Cardiology superspeciality for 3 years f/ b interventional cardiology for 2 years.... What are my options to work in uk as cardiologist....will mti be useful for me....
@@Saleemyousuf1990 if you don't have MRCP then MTI or PLAB are the two options to enter NHS. At your level MTI is a better option as it is less time consuming and you won't have to spend much other than visa and tickets.
Please see the link below to find out how to apply for MTI program.
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@@thetwodocs Would I get any hands on ....
If very little .... How much little are we talking.
@@Saleemyousuf1990
Initially they would access you wether you can perform a procedure with safety and over the time if you are able to impress the team, you will definitely get hands on.
Regarding the numbers of cases it depends on which trust you work in, as the patient volume is different among the trusts.
AOA
can you enlighten us about the MTI Pathway via Royal college?
if one has done fcps and MRCP 1?
wsalam. the process is almost the same but you need MRCP 1 instead of IMM
@@thetwodocs Jazak’Allah khair
Please make a video on it too.
I’ll be grateful
@@19tory sure
On the website i couldn't find a list of documents that I need to attach during the entire process. I wanted to gather the documents first before applying. Can some one please guide. I 'd be very grateful.
If you are applying through CPSP pathway then the only documents you need beforehand are ielts/oet certificate and IMM certificate. Rest they would guide you step by step. You don’t need to worry about documents at this point
@@thetwodocsthank you for replying 🥹
Umm no i wasnt planning to apply through cpsp. Is that the only option?
@@user-uc5gb3rl2k no but the chances of getting a job through CPSP route are higher.
Are you in a training program?
@@user-uc5gb3rl2k ruclips.net/video/xp3Ewc_KAHM/видео.htmlsi=K6S_6xkSV992raOR
Here is all you need to know if you want to try non CPSP route
@@thetwodocs I have done my residency its been 4 years so i am not working there in that program anymore.
Can I take mti route right after my MBBS?
No you need atleast 3 years post graduation along with MRCP 1/2 or IMM
If I pass mrcog just after my house job then can I enter in the MTI route in uk and gain experience after 3years experience then I will be eligible for mrcog part 2 or not ?
Please guide me .
You have to have atleast 3 years experience post mbbs from your home country before applying for MTI pathway
In any specialty or only in gynaecological field
@@ayeshaliaqat4542 for any specialty
@@thetwodocs should I get experience in any speciality or in obs gynae department ?
@@ayeshaliaqat4542 if you want to do obs and gynae here in UK then get experience in gynae
Do we need a bank statement to enter into uk too?
No not for MTI pathway
Assalamualaikum Bhai.
Kindly guide what is the salary of doctor during these 2 years?
And also guide do we have to pay any tax out of it while living over there?
Wsalam.
It is 2700£ for junior fellows and 3000 for senior fellows.
There is no tax applicable on this salary
@@thetwodocs bhai the pay we get is from CPSP or NHS?
And do we have to pay back any percentage to CPSP ??
@@thetwodocs And are we allowed to do any locum jobs during these 2 years?
@@Sidhu-Studio its from Royal college via CPSP. This is what we get after deduction of CPSP charges
@@Sidhu-Studio yes we can do 18hours/ week extra shifts
Salam brother. If someone has cleared mrcp 1 and 2. Can he do paces during that 2 years of training in UK. And as you mention after that 2 yrs training you can get a job of SR in UK, so is it without mrcp or you should have cleared mrcp? Plus plz enlighten us with the pay over there😜
wsalam..
yes you can do PACES during your stay. and after two years even if you dont have MRCP, you can get the SpR job
After mrcog part 1 how many years of experience needed for MTi?
currently its either IMM or MRCP 1 for MTI route. MRCOG 1 is not considered for MTI route
After clearing part 2 , can we opt for MTI Route for super speciality
Yes you can as a senior fellow
Please see the comment below for detailed answer
@@thetwodocs below where
its the same process but you get a senior fellow post with a bit higher pay. it would help you get GMC and then you can go for CESAR pathway or enter into UK training system to become a consultant in UK
Is it a must to pass mrcog part 1 for mti scheme?
At least IMM or MRCP/MRCOG 1 and 2
Doctor what is IMM
its intermediate module exam which you have to pass after 2 years of FCPS training
What are the pros and cons of going through mrcp pathway?
Almost the same as explained in the video except for the fact that you can opt out of MTI program at any point in case of non CPSP pathway.
A.oa
Is it possble for fcps radiology to wrk under MTI
yes. I know a few colleagues who came for radiology
@@thetwodocs ok can u tell me please is there any other way to enter NHS other than Frcr..as booking process is v slow...in frcr..seats v limted..
@@farihaahmad9945 if you have completed FCPS then non CPSP MTI is the fastest route. Otherwise you will have to appear in PLAB
@@thetwodocs yes i hv cmpleted and has 2 years post grad experince..bt actually cpsp is not offering mti for radiologists...dats y i ws asking may b u know anyother eay
@@farihaahmad9945 you don't need to wait for CPSP posts.
Do you OET ASAP. Meanwhile make an account on tracjob.com and you will find a lot of posts for non CPSP route.
Once you enter UK system, with your experience you will definitely find a lot of opportunities
If i am left with 1.5 years of training now. Can i apply for mti now?
yes sure. you can even apply after completion of your training
@@thetwodocs it will take furthur two years of training?
@@dr.mariathanvi5082 no the MTI contract is for 2 years but you can appear in your exam once your training period is complete and you are eligible for exam. also the CPSP has now started written exam at Birmingham and you wont need to travel to Pakistan for your exam.
Is there any pathway for MD Ms uhs for mrcp?
you need to have MRCP 1 and 2 in that case.
Sir how much they pay/salary per month?
kindly inbox on fbk page
After clearing part2, can we opt for Mti route? Or its for trainees only?
Or whats the route for fellows?
The same question i need to ask.
its the same process but you get a senior fellow post with a bit higher pay. it would help you get GMC and then you can go for CESAR pathway or enter into UK training system to become a consultant in UK
Can you tell me regarding audit ??
you just need to know the steps of audit. you can search the steps of audit on google.
What is IMM
Intermediate module exam during FCPS training
Salam bro! I'm Dr. Muhammad Dawa Khan from kpk, Pakistan!
I have done fcps cardiology in 2012. Can you help me in getting job somehow directly if I send you my CV.
Thanks 💓
Wsalam Dr Dawa!
Hope you are doing well.
Normally in NHS direct applications are not entrained as such, unless you have GMC registration.
However I would suggest you to do OET/IELTS first and then we can look for MTI jobs
@@thetwodocs thanks
@@muhammaddawakhan9722 anytime. Will be happy to help
@thetwodocs
Thanks. Jazakallah khaira.
Is house job certificate verification necessary for job in UK? Moreover, are there real chances for me to get job in cardiology if I do all this long work?
Kindly send me your email for proper contract. When I will do oet, I'll contact you through email, Inshallah.
@@muhammaddawakhan9722 there are fair chances of getting a registrar job but again no one can guarantee it 100%. there are lot of other things that matter including job interview.
OET/ielts is just the first step in the process.
My email is wajid_182@hotmail.com
How much do we earn per month??😊
£3000/month but it can go up if you do locum
Is locum allowed in uk? I heard locum is not allowed now? I’ve done imm and I was called for interviews of Birmingham program
@@sabyrauf3869 yes it is allowed and almost everyone does locum shifts to survive. There is a limit to maximum number of locimhours in a week though.
First of all Thankyou so much for replying n answering us. I hav few more questions. How do we find locum jobs? And with the basic pay can we keep our family with us in Birmingham my spouse n children? Secondly, for how much do we get a 2 bed Appartment In Birmingham approximately??
@@sabyrauf3869 you would be offered locum in your department, it usually by email/ whatsapp group. But it is after you have started your job.
You can mange with the pay and family but you won’t be saving much if don’t do locums.
Finally the rent depends on the area where you get the flat/house. It is estimated to be anything between 800-1200£
What is the salary of junior fellow?
2700£
@@thetwodocs will cpsp take any percentage from this amout?
@@asirnasiruddin2378 this is after deduction of charges by CPSP
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Hello dr.I am mcps family medicine am I eligible for mTI pathway
no unless you have MRCP or IMM
Sir my son is just mbbs pass out from india. And his wife has passed oet and now she is join the nhs in London. He is going with his wife. Can he join the direct nhs or join the mti
No you need at least three years post graduation experience along with some post graduation exam like MRCP 1 and 2 for MTI route.
He will have to do PLAB for GMC registration
He is going uk with him wife
In uk he can do the job in any hospital or not
@@SANJAYKUMAR-do6ou there are only few hospital where MTI program is available
Sir please told me best coaching centre for plab in india