One thing we benefited from with her single-vision, was that because of her science background she refused to commission the nuclear reactor that was being promoted. She opted for a better design that is safer but cost more.
She did what had to be done but went around it all the wrong way. The coal mine where bleeding the UK dry but the closures should have been staggered and more support given to the communities. She was one tough cookie and a leader, you cant say that about todays politicans.
Has anybody mentioned Section 28 and its' Scottish equivalent yet? Thanks to the HIV & AIDS Pandemic, large numbers of celebrities were coming out as gay, bisexual or lesbian; and the national denial about the actual numbers of LGB people and the fact that they existed in all walks of life, was under serious threat. (Please be aware, the transgender movement was very much in its infancy at that time, with most of the population still struggling to define what 'gay' might look like in their communities if it wasn't the stereotypical, effeminate, limp-wristed men that had long featured in comedies; hence I have excluded the T+ folks for that reason, here). So, within new local government legislation, Mrs Thatcher presided over new laws that banned "the promotion of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship," by local authorities - which effectively meant that nearly all state schools were now forbidden from even raising the subject within their sex education classes, and that most public libraries were prevented from carrying any positive LGB publications. What's more, councilpremises coould no lponger be hired to LGB groups and it was designed to drive many thousands of LGB local government employees back into the closet... Unfortunately for Margaret Thatcher and her more right-wing colleagues, this was met by what had hitherto been unimaginable numbers of protestors, LGB people themselves were joined by their many friends and supporters - and many of the trade unons, and large numbers of their workers; hence numbers attending the annual London Pride March had swelled from less than 10,000 in 1981 to 250,000 by the end of that decade; and one of several "Stop the Clause" marches that were held over 1987/8 attracted 320,000, with everything from LGB social workers and teachers to politicians (who were defecting from the government benches at a slow but steady rate) also lending their support! Despite this, the police and other authorities always gave much lower "offcial" attendance numbers - which in any case were only reported by Independent TV news bulletins because the BBC national bulletins continued to completely ignore it... Meanwhile, the new Poll Tax had been introduced in Scotland a year earlier than in the rest of the UK (this was quite a frequent practice by successive UK Governments, to "test" controversial new legislation out in Scotland so that they could amend it as necessary before they ruled it out over the rest of the UK). Needless to say the "can't pay, won't pay" campaigners were out in force - not to mention the Scottish Nationalists, who received a major boost in popularity, thanks to all these - unpopular, almost to the point of offensive, new laws being brought in by a government that as far as they were concerned, they had not elected... And so, innocent peoople who simply couldn't afford this huge financial burden that had never existed before, were jailed, turfed out of their homes and/or humiliated by Warrant Sales, whereby courts would authorise Sheriff's Officers to forcibly enter the homes of those that couldn't or refused to pay, seize goods ranging from motor vehicles to non-essential furniture which they'd then take out into the street and auction off to the highest bidder - usually for a fraction of their actual value; in order to pay off the debts... There are just no words that come close to describing how demonstrably happy almost everybody was, the day that Thatcher resigned as Prime Minister! Newspaper sellers were literally leaping into the air with joy; the pubs quickly filled up with peoople who just couldn't contain themselves - all grinning from ear to ear, and impromptu street parties took place!
I was upset when she took away my milk ! The Navy fleet was on the way to the Falklands only 2 days after the invasion. I lived near Culdrose Navy base and they were on alert and already preparing before the invasion, so she knew more than she let on.
I'm not a fan of hers, she did mostly the same as Sweden at the time, selling government owned companies for bargain prices, thereby reducing income for the state. Short term it was good, but long term, I think not. And in most parts it's been proven that the now privately owned companies are not as effective as they were when owned by the government
To answer your question about her being great or the worst; I say like Attlee, they were both profound and the only PMs who governed post war. 1951-55 Churchill presided although 1940-45 he too certainly governed.
@@IvyJames-ru4vj To be honest I have a feeling she may have been autistic so simply saw the world in a very fixed way. For example her background in chemistry stands out, and her insistence that we didn't build the cheaper type of nuclear reactor that we previously built. Man or woman her attention to detail stands out.
I live in county Durham and our communities are still suffering the affects of the Thatcher government, look up the miners strike , it absolutely destroyed the mining communities in the north of England
I live in County Durham used to be a miner. The best thing Thatcher did was close the coal mines. My grandad was a coal miner and died of silicosis caused by working down a coal mine.
@@eddiethompson4179 it decimated the northeast , the way it was done was disgusting , you'll know what the communities were like before the closures & after , I know what I'd choose between then & now...
hey girl, i watch all your stuff, i wont watch this, im commenting before the video startsshe was the worst, she started the poll tax, instead of paying tax per house, she wanted to tax everyone that was 18 years or older indevidualy, people went to prison for non payment, she closed the mines, and imported from austrailia, i live in a mining village, to date, the north east minening villages have never recovered, they have got worse over the deacades, houses that people bought became worthless, now they are so bad, they cant sell them for a £1.00, she closed manufacturing, furniture manufacturing and imported from sweden, Ikea and the likes. The north and north east have never recovered, as no government comes this way, she is what created the north south devide, now we have labour with steal starmer, who will go down in history, as the prime miniter that stole from the poor, the elderly and gave to the rich, or the already well paid, taking £300 heating from the old and elderly, who are only on 11k a year and gave train drivers 10k a year pay rise, when they were on 60k a year anyway The british people dont forget
I'm 76 and have lived through 18 Prime Ministers. Thatcher was the worst by a country mile. Mean-spirited, dictatorial, friend of fascist dictators, starter of pointless wars ("from the safest places come the bravest words"). She took advice on economics from far-right lunatics, destroyed communities and instead of having a plan to make things better she left it to the "magic of the marketplace", i.e. she left those communities to rot, and had no reason to care because they'd never have voted for her anyway. Most seriously in my view, she poisoned the atmosphere in the country, trying to destroy any communal efforts. Divide and rule. Create division and resentment. She didn't dare scrap the National Health Service, but every day for a dozen years we woke up to hear about some new way to be nasty. It was disgraceful, and a lot of its repercussions are still being felt now.
She was one of the best. You cannot judge her without knowing the hell that was Britain in the 1970s. She didn't destroy industry or manufacturing. The unions did in the 70s with their constant stikes. Manufacturers couldn't complete orders, customers lost confidence and took their business to other countries. Kids all over the country loved Maggie for removing the milk we'd been forced to drink every morning for decades.
@@tomhirons7475 The mines needed to be closed, not only did they severely affect our environment but also contributed to the deaths of children in wales so. Also the UK was facing terrible economic choices yet you are upset over Milk.... get over it.
@@tomhirons7475 Are you aware that most pit men (especially in northern England) voted for Maggie. Even those staunch Labour/union men could see she was only hope for Britain. The strike in '84 was Scargill's ego trip. He was a true champagne socialist - and thick with it! Maggie was way more intelligent and astute.
Thatcher is definitely the best PM of my lifetime, in my early infancy Churchill was in his second period as PM in the early 1950s, but that was many years before I became politically aware or indeed aware generally. Thatcher had her faults of course, but in general the economic shock treatment she and her government administered was a crucial factor in the transformation of the UK from an economic basket case in the 1960s & 1970s to a re-energised country in the 1980s. No subsequent PM so far has come close to surpassing her in competence or sheer common sense. Obviously she wasn’t popular amongst socialists and other left wing losers. I wish we had someone like her in politics today, male or female (I don’t care which) who had even a half of her credibility & sheer ability.
Apart from the Falklands, she was one of the worst ended our state owned industries, closed the mines, and me being a child and many children where not getting enough calcium in our diets had milk every day. She stopped the milk, getting the name maggie thatcher the milk snatcher. Unemployment was at its highest and like Caesar she was stabbed in the back by her own cabinet. The right wing loved her, my father lost his job and my family suffered and my father was a veteran of Aden and Northern Ireland, for the lower classes the worst times of our life.
Although I was still a young man when Maggie was in power, I didn't agree with most of her polices I feel we need someone like her or Churchill right now. They wouldn't have allowed Europe to tell us what we can & can't do in our own country. They definitely wouldn't have allowed thousands of illegal immigrants to flood into Britain with no ID, or allow thousands of pro-Hamas supporters march through London shouting anti Jew & anti west slogans. They would have had the navy blockade the channel & got the army to bring the marches to a very quick end. They would have been deported. We need a strong pro-British leader right now.
Thank you. I have been puzzling over the recent revisionist views of Churchill and Thatcher which ignore their faults entirely and raise them to heroic almost god-like status. Thatcher is particularly undeserving. Thanks to your comment I get it ! You are probably right. Neither of them would have allowed the Islamisation and mass immigration the country is suffering from now. You have identified a need.
One thing we benefited from with her single-vision, was that because of her science background she refused to commission the nuclear reactor that was being promoted. She opted for a better design that is safer but cost more.
Thanks for another great reaction video
Quick fact we never declared war on Argentina, it was a conflict never war, but most us use the word war.
She did what had to be done but went around it all the wrong way. The coal mine where bleeding the UK dry but the closures should have been staggered and more support given to the communities. She was one tough cookie and a leader, you cant say that about todays politicans.
Thanks for sharing.
Has anybody mentioned Section 28 and its' Scottish equivalent yet? Thanks to the HIV & AIDS Pandemic, large numbers of celebrities were coming out as gay, bisexual or lesbian; and the national denial about the actual numbers of LGB people and the fact that they existed in all walks of life, was under serious threat. (Please be aware, the transgender movement was very much in its infancy at that time, with most of the population still struggling to define what 'gay' might look like in their communities if it wasn't the stereotypical, effeminate, limp-wristed men that had long featured in comedies; hence I have excluded the T+ folks for that reason, here). So, within new local government legislation, Mrs Thatcher presided over new laws that banned "the promotion of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship," by local authorities - which effectively meant that nearly all state schools were now forbidden from even raising the subject within their sex education classes, and that most public libraries were prevented from carrying any positive LGB publications. What's more, councilpremises coould no lponger be hired to LGB groups and it was designed to drive many thousands of LGB local government employees back into the closet... Unfortunately for Margaret Thatcher and her more right-wing colleagues, this was met by what had hitherto been unimaginable numbers of protestors, LGB people themselves were joined by their many friends and supporters - and many of the trade unons, and large numbers of their workers; hence numbers attending the annual London Pride March had swelled from less than 10,000 in 1981 to 250,000 by the end of that decade; and one of several "Stop the Clause" marches that were held over 1987/8 attracted 320,000, with everything from LGB social workers and teachers to politicians (who were defecting from the government benches at a slow but steady rate) also lending their support! Despite this, the police and other authorities always gave much lower "offcial" attendance numbers - which in any case were only reported by Independent TV news bulletins because the BBC national bulletins continued to completely ignore it...
Meanwhile, the new Poll Tax had been introduced in Scotland a year earlier than in the rest of the UK (this was quite a frequent practice by successive UK Governments, to "test" controversial new legislation out in Scotland so that they could amend it as necessary before they ruled it out over the rest of the UK). Needless to say the "can't pay, won't pay" campaigners were out in force - not to mention the Scottish Nationalists, who received a major boost in popularity, thanks to all these - unpopular, almost to the point of offensive, new laws being brought in by a government that as far as they were concerned, they had not elected... And so, innocent peoople who simply couldn't afford this huge financial burden that had never existed before, were jailed, turfed out of their homes and/or humiliated by Warrant Sales, whereby courts would authorise Sheriff's Officers to forcibly enter the homes of those that couldn't or refused to pay, seize goods ranging from motor vehicles to non-essential furniture which they'd then take out into the street and auction off to the highest bidder - usually for a fraction of their actual value; in order to pay off the debts...
There are just no words that come close to describing how demonstrably happy almost everybody was, the day that Thatcher resigned as Prime Minister! Newspaper sellers were literally leaping into the air with joy; the pubs quickly filled up with peoople who just couldn't contain themselves - all grinning from ear to ear, and impromptu street parties took place!
Here as usual for another reaction vedio.
I was upset when she took away my milk !
The Navy fleet was on the way to the Falklands only 2 days after the invasion. I lived near Culdrose Navy base and they were on alert and already preparing before the invasion, so she knew more than she let on.
I'm not a fan of hers, she did mostly the same as Sweden at the time, selling government owned companies for bargain prices, thereby reducing income for the state. Short term it was good, but long term, I think not. And in most parts it's been proven that the now privately owned companies are not as effective as they were when owned by the government
To answer your question about her being great or the worst; I say like Attlee, they were both profound and the only PMs who governed post war. 1951-55 Churchill presided although 1940-45 he too certainly governed.
My opinion:
She was the best prime minister of my lifetime.
Felt safe in her hands
Even now - after more than 30 years - I can't stand the sound of her name!
She was right to fight the Falklands war I'm wrong about everything else.
You'd be surprised to know that she was no fan of feminists, even though she is a feminist icon.
Lol, she is NOT.
Yes, I forgot to mention that in my post above. She did not like women at all. It was mutual. (In fact she didn't like anyone very much.)
Her existence is a contradiction then she should have been in the kitchen then what was she doing being prime minister?
@@IvyJames-ru4vj To be honest I have a feeling she may have been autistic so simply saw the world in a very fixed way.
For example her background in chemistry stands out, and her insistence that we didn't build the cheaper type of nuclear reactor that we previously built.
Man or woman her attention to detail stands out.
I live in county Durham and our communities are still suffering the affects of the Thatcher government, look up the miners strike , it absolutely destroyed the mining communities in the north of England
I live in County Durham used to be a miner. The best thing Thatcher did was close the coal mines. My grandad was a coal miner and died of silicosis caused by working down a coal mine.
@@eddiethompson4179 it decimated the northeast , the way it was done was disgusting , you'll know what the communities were like before the closures & after , I know what I'd choose between then & now...
The UK an economic basket case in the 60s ? One of the most successful decades on record - it was booming !
You weren't around evidently.
Margaret Thatcher was one of the best PMs we've ever had. She was a tough cookie.
2 million council houses lost
hey girl, i watch all your stuff, i wont watch this, im commenting before the video startsshe was the worst,
she started the poll tax, instead of paying tax per house, she wanted to tax everyone that was 18 years or older indevidualy, people went to prison for non payment, she closed the mines, and imported from austrailia, i live in a mining village, to date, the north east minening villages have never recovered, they have got worse over the deacades, houses that people bought became worthless, now they are so bad, they cant sell them for a £1.00, she closed manufacturing, furniture manufacturing and imported from sweden, Ikea and the likes.
The north and north east have never recovered, as no government comes this way, she is what created the north south devide, now we have labour with steal starmer, who will go down in history, as the prime miniter that stole from the poor, the elderly and gave to the rich, or the already well paid, taking £300 heating from the old and elderly, who are only on 11k a year and gave train drivers 10k a year pay rise, when they were on 60k a year anyway
The british people dont forget
Some of them apparently have forgotten judging by the fanbase in these comments.
she broke a lot of families up when she closed the pits
I'm 76 and have lived through 18 Prime Ministers. Thatcher was the worst by a country mile. Mean-spirited, dictatorial, friend of fascist dictators, starter of pointless wars ("from the safest places come the bravest words"). She took advice on economics from far-right lunatics, destroyed communities and instead of having a plan to make things better she left it to the "magic of the marketplace", i.e. she left those communities to rot, and had no reason to care because they'd never have voted for her anyway. Most seriously in my view, she poisoned the atmosphere in the country, trying to destroy any communal efforts. Divide and rule. Create division and resentment. She didn't dare scrap the National Health Service, but every day for a dozen years we woke up to hear about some new way to be nasty. It was disgraceful, and a lot of its repercussions are still being felt now.
I fully agree.
She was one of the best. You cannot judge her without knowing the hell that was Britain in the 1970s.
She didn't destroy industry or manufacturing. The unions did in the 70s with their constant stikes. Manufacturers couldn't complete orders, customers lost confidence and took their business to other countries.
Kids all over the country loved Maggie for removing the milk we'd been forced to drink every morning for decades.
@@tomhirons7475 The mines needed to be closed, not only did they severely affect our environment but also contributed to the deaths of children in wales so. Also the UK was facing terrible economic choices yet you are upset over Milk.... get over it.
@@AlwaysRightAllNight not for my family, father and my community, that suffered and went hungry and thats my opinion i respect yours.
Were you actually around in the 1970s? Britain had its problems, but it was a much much nicer place to be alive in. Less mean and cynical.
@@tomhirons7475 Are you aware that most pit men (especially in northern England) voted for Maggie. Even those staunch Labour/union men could see she was only hope for Britain.
The strike in '84 was Scargill's ego trip. He was a true champagne socialist - and thick with it! Maggie was way more intelligent and astute.
We were not forced to drink milk. Are you fused throughout stop
Thatcher is definitely the best PM of my lifetime, in my early infancy Churchill was in his second period as PM in the early 1950s, but that was many years before I became politically aware or indeed aware generally. Thatcher had her faults of course, but in general the economic shock treatment she and her government administered was a crucial factor in the transformation of the UK from an economic basket case in the 1960s & 1970s to a re-energised country in the 1980s. No subsequent PM so far has come close to surpassing her in competence or sheer common sense. Obviously she wasn’t popular amongst socialists and other left wing losers. I wish we had someone like her in politics today, male or female (I don’t care which) who had even a half of her credibility & sheer ability.
You must be on drugs to think this. 😂
@@andrewmcdonald793 Thanks for your ‘intelligent’ comment 🤡🤪.
@@BillCameronWChe's just another Leftist loon
I really didn't like her. Im from the UK. I lost my job twice, and the country had a cheek to give her a state funeral despite all she did.
Apart from the Falklands, she was one of the worst ended our state owned industries, closed the mines, and me being a child and many children where not getting enough calcium in our diets had milk every day. She stopped the milk, getting the name maggie thatcher the milk snatcher. Unemployment was at its highest and like Caesar she was stabbed in the back by her own cabinet. The right wing loved her, my father lost his job and my family suffered and my father was a veteran of Aden and Northern Ireland, for the lower classes the worst times of our life.
not watching. worst. the system she brought in is why we're in the mess we're in. shhh tell sid!!!!
Although I was still a young man when Maggie was in power, I didn't agree with most of her polices I feel we need someone like her or Churchill right now.
They wouldn't have allowed Europe to tell us what we can & can't do in our own country. They definitely wouldn't have allowed thousands of illegal immigrants to flood into Britain with no ID, or allow thousands of pro-Hamas supporters march through London shouting anti Jew & anti west slogans.
They would have had the navy blockade the channel & got the army to bring the marches to a very quick end.
They would have been deported. We need a strong pro-British leader right now.
Berk.
Thank you. I have been puzzling over the recent revisionist views of Churchill and Thatcher which ignore their faults entirely and raise them to heroic almost god-like status. Thatcher is particularly undeserving.
Thanks to your comment I get it !
You are probably right. Neither of them would have allowed the Islamisation and mass immigration the country is suffering from now.
You have identified a need.