Margaret Thatcher on Europe - Definitive Uncut Interview (1991)
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- On 22 November 1991, exactly one year after her resignation from 10 Downing Street, former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher was interviewed by ITN’s Michael Brunson. The focus of the interview was on Mrs Thatcher’s opposition to the European Monetary Union (EMU), and the broader issue of Britain’s relationship with Europe. Over the course of a 40-minute interview, the former Conservative leader argued for a referendum on the UK's place in the European Community, which she believed was at risk of becoming a "federation" ruled by European Commission officials "thirsty for power", robbing Britain of its parliamentary sovereignty. In doing so, Thatcher put down a comprehensive record of her views on Europe, many of which would be echoed by the Vote Leave campaign during the Brexit referendum 25 years later.
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Prime minister Thatcher fought tooth and nail for her country. Todays politicians (MP's) fight to feather their own nests.
I am not her biggest fan, though how I wish she was here now. She really did say what she was doing, also how and why, and she told us it would hurt. Short-term pain for long-term gain. Politicians are just not like this anymore.
The lady left a legacy.Obey.
She stood for #Britain and stood by what she said. I never knew till ten years ago that in the 80's the UK adopted the Neo-Liberalism designed and implemented by the Pinochet gov of Chile. An economic model that made Chile the most stable and best economy in Latin America; as an economic model, this made Britain great again , after the labour distaster in the 70's that left the #Uk broke,. Then only to be destroyed by subsequent #labour govs. Labour is #socialist and #socialism is a scam. We need people like Maggie to defend being British, our freedom and #democracy.
Yes it is now short term pain and long term pain.
She was an exceptional politician and woman. Every one who does not understand this, whether they are left or right, is just ridiculous. Margaret Thatcher did a remarkable job as PM
😮🤮
One thing was always certain, her love of Britain and everything British, nobody stood up for this country like her
She’s something else isn’t she. Way above pigmy politicians of now.
Definitely something else. 😊
She was truly something of the night.
Did she drink blood?
What a thinker and communicator- not sound bite and focus group pole sitters-
Breathtaking. Historical. A giant.
As a citizen of both the UK and Finland, Thatcher's words about Britain defending liberty resonate very well. It was Britain- and the US - that gave Finland and Sweden security guarantees after the Russian attack on Ukraine. Our dear friends on the Continent pursued other interests. Personally, this I will never forget!
I seem to remember Britain was opposed to the indépendance of the US. Or against the French revolution. All this gibberish is just that. England was always in the team that defended it's interests . Freedom my eye.
@@sylvaincroissant7650Two events from the 18th century, not exactly representative of modern Britain
@@user-oi1yn3ly7w that's rich that you are supposed to use historic attitudes to define a country liberty index of some sort ,but then that you pick and choose.
Now regarding the Ukraine thing Karirene was talking about, this attitude by Nato countries, and the UK and the US first, is irresponsible. It goes in the direction of war and that is obviously what Nato is for nowadays.
What garrantee was given to Sweden and Finland. That the Nato countries would attack Russia in the name of say Finland? And so that all central and Eastern Europe would go to ashes ? That's very cheap to play with other people's blood. Hoping another conflict would engulf Europe and that it would mainly serve the US and England as the 2 previous global conflicts?
I feel I was duped by the media/ spitting image mocking of her ! I wish I knew what I know now about politics , morals and the human condition. If Saint Peter lets me through the pearly gates, I feel I owe her an apology ! She was magnificent !
So very prevalent ......... Ideas & thoughts carried through to 2016 when I am proud to say I voted Brexit
If you don’t speak English use your mother tongue, because google can translate for you.
❤❤ thank you Very much for The recording and posting IT!❤😊😊
Greetings from Poland!
Those were the times when leadership meant something and was carried out by statesmen instead of the lame duck idiots we have today in the western world.
Maybe they were not entirely liked but the direction was clear for everybody to see.
“As always, you’ve given us about five hours of editing there!”😂
Have a little bit more faith in your fellow Countrymen. Typical Thatcher!! Couldn't help but laugh!!
Another fascinating post - thanks ITN :)
What a damn woman. Margaret 💙
This is so relevant today.
I would like to hear now the opinion of that interviewer about the long term vision expressed by Mrs Thatcher 😊
She never cared what people thought of her and she ate people for breakfast anyone who dared challenged her on her positions and didn't have the facts or knowledge. The "wets" of which the Tories are now full of. Heseltine always springs to mind and it makes me sleep better at night knowing she lived rent free in his head.
If only she has been around for Brexit. The likes of Von-Derlayen (or whatever her name is) and those so-called European politicians would've been decimated by her. Farage gave us a taste of how things might've looked has she of been there.
32 mins 00 seconds to 33.40 is a prime example of the issue of politics today. They argue over the insignifcant little things, rather than the serious issues affecting the public.
Prophecy at 29:55
Thatcher’s great domestic legacy of course was the explosion of working class home ownership that occurred in the late 70s and 1980s, it continued rising through the 1990s and 00s under Blair. It’s a mark of the how far removed from her the rotten corpse of the present “Tory” Government is that since 2010 the percentage of Brits how own their home has fallen from 73% to 50% in 2024, its plummeted a whole 10% while Sunak has been PM. Like all of the surviving Thatcherites even she would’ve deserted them by now.
Yes. I’d like to think she was more economically astute than the current crop of ideological imbeciles. However I think you can’t escape the reality that the madness did start with thatcher. It was an integral part of her own independent and individualistic, anti-cooperative ideology. It was based on a false image of British superiority, a sort of post- colonial arrogance.
History once again shows she was right
She was just absolutely marvellous wasn't she.
No
Thatcher was a conviction politician. Her views on the single currency and monetary union were correct. But, Brexit is a bit extreme in my opinion.
I agree
She’d never have backed Brexit, and most of her concerns about monetary union were addressed at later treaties with the UK gaining exemptions along with Sweden and Denmark.
Friday 22nd November 1991
She is much much missed 🇬🇧😞
Not by some.
@@melgrant7404 Yes, not by the unions, not by communist traitors, not by the Argies, not by the IRA, not by the Russians.
She was a visionary
Yes, we can see the shitty results of her vision right now! She helped FU this country.
There’s a difference between a visionary and a crazy ideologue. Some people thought Hitler was a visionary
She is so eloquent and I enjoy listening to her, even though I may not share her politics.
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32:20 “No. It’s a year today since I resigned.” 😟🤪
2:39 beard Mrs Thatcher :0
We certainly need someone like Thatcher now, not a Sunak or Starmer in these challenging times.
Interessante
Yes. This is where the brexit madness began 😒
People were in awe of her. As a kid she seemed to be a domineering, hectoring narrow minded, bloodyminded idealist. When she came out of the door at no 10 to announce, “We have had a grandchild,” we knew she was bonkers.
She actually said "We are a grandmother."
former language divides, and lack of travel, and the right people travel, and converse, trickle down culture affects the way we can see each other
Just to put this in: every bloody country in the world thinks of its self, its history, its psyche as *unique* . Nothing that much different (from other countries) about us, Britain. Secondly, we are now out of the EU, and for many that was an affirmation of our independence, but since 1945 we have made ourselves so needy of, so reliant upon the United States. Britain on the worldstage, as the US's second and minor fiddle. For instance, "Britain’s" nuclear deterrent is of little to no use at all out of the shadow and good care of the United States'. Upto Mrs T's time, the United States' domestic politics were shaped by (at least relatively) cool, sensible heads and pragmatism. Mrs T never got to know Trump, Trumpism. Good luck to us Britain now in our traditional tight latch onto the US of Donald Trump & Trumpism. For even if (IF!) Trump doesn't get his 2nd term, there's *plenty* of Trumpism in the Republican party and Congress to shape and make a lot of US's foreign policy, including how the US sees Britain. Or, ask the Ukrainians what's like dealing with Trumpism in Congress. Still, just as well we, Britain, "re-gained" our independence having left the EU.
Since when we all become friends suddenly and we think about our liberty.
Read pan erupa book for more details.
It is written by mr kalergi
Referenda are always divisive. Especially when the result is as close as brexit was.
Her and Reagan were a pair. Conservatism 😕😞
And UK and US were much stronger back then, in every way.
@@JupiterThunder yes because the full effects of their poisonous policies took time to unfold. They were amplified as time progressed
She was right about everything all of the time.
31:55 what do you think? Did she still think she would come back again as Prime Minister, because of this issue? She had already demonstrated that she had been in power so long that she saw herself as a sort of monarch.
She is so remarkable. A kind of 20th century Elizabeth I
Well, she certainly thought she was.
Better than tharisa may
A lot of kind words on here.
She was devisive and put money above all.
She affected a lot of lives through her actions...most for the worst and a lot of her chickens are now coming home to roost like railway's water housing etc etc.
But lets also remember she was the architect of the European single market which provided the prosperity to Britain she craved for 30 years
And shes the reason our oil money was wasted. Norway made a sovereign wealth fund. Thatcher broke us.
She’d never have supported Brexit, you’d be deluded to even think that and she’d have called it out just as her other senior surviving ministers have done.
But she was not pro Europe.
Why not? Did you not listen to her speaking about how parliament was the centre of, and key to our democracy? She would have fought for it and put out a much clearer case.
She made a lot of mistakes. Selling council houses and not building new ones, Selling the silverware (oil to foreign countries), taking power away from Unions (no wage growth in the last 13 years), and not being in the Euro which would make trade so much easier and British exceptionalism, Tory austerity alongside with immigration caused Brexit. Britain stands alone, and Northern Ireland and Scotland long for independence or reunification.
39:39 “Whatever happened to the British lion?” I’ll tell you, Margaret. The British lion got old, came through two world wars and, in 1945, had to wake up finally to the 20th century reality that it was no longer a colonial superpower and it better learn to negotiate at the table, to act like a grown up and develop diplomatic relationships with Europe, in order to be a part of the future of Europe, or be left behind.
She was totally wrong on Europe as history has now demonstrated without any shadow of a doubt. Brexit was the last act of Thatcher's anti-European stance and we all now pay dearly indeed for such folly. To paraphrase Thatcher herself. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
She wasn’t totally wrong at all, she supported free trade with Europe but she didn’t want a federal Europe. Brexit doesn’t prove anything about her stance as it wasn’t her stance which was followed.
Very well said! We are all paying the price of Thatcher's delusions of grandeur.
Yes. Sadly you’re so right😢
@@user-oi1yn3ly7w This interview was 30 years ago now, I think it's a mistake to overthink what she did or did not say. One thing she was wrong about is that the world is ruled by international trade, not blocks. In 2024, it's clear this is totally wrong, then again times changed so much since then.
It's no wonder we have a problem with Europe and the EU today. Listening to this woman talking shows any sane person that her views were valid in the 1940s, but are wholly inappropriate for today. Bring on a federal Europe! Let us embrace the euro! Let us take our place in the EU! Let us be on the top table again! Thatcher was fit for the Eighties, maybe, but not for the 2020s. Let the lady rest in peace!
It’s not one or the other. We had a good half way house. But we’ve trashed it
@@MeMyself-jz9ms Yes, the Brexiteers have trashed it. We will never get all those opt-outs again, even if the EU does eventually allow us back.
EUSSR.....a European Soviet Union....no thanks!
@@user-yi6ui6pn4i I see that you have been brainwashed.
Her socioeconomic views and policies were no doubt correct, and actually spectacularly successful, as she reversed Britain's almost constant decline (proof: later embraced or even copied by numerous countries), however her image was finally tarnished due to her stubbornness (insisting on that poll tax, causing her resignation and paving the way for the New Labour) and her absolute views on matters like Europe and the Special Relationship with the US. Got special arrangements, opt-outs, rebates and exceptions (yes, even satisfying the British exceptionalism!) from the EU. These so much divided and even poissoned the public opinion, that finally the country got out of the EU and the Single Market, its largest trade partner, throwing all the above out of the window. Got a rather unfavourable trade pact from the US...
Thatcher was a very ignorant person. She was narrowly educated, as a scientist, knew nothing about history, economics or literature, and her understanding of international affairs reflected a childhood admiration of Rudyard Kipling and GA Henty. Her main focus was on defeating the forces of socialism, which meant destroying the north of England which she associated with miners and the Labour party. She had a very strong character, and successfully boosted the Conservative Party, which had lost all credibility by the time she arrived on the scene in 1979. She destroyed Britain's manufacturing base in her first term, by becoming a slave of Milton Friedman and monetarism. This meant interest rates at 20% for a long time and two dollars to one pound, which made exporting impossible for British companies. She became a caricature of herself and lasted for too long. Blair's later success as Labour leader was partly due to his imitation of her techniques, which notably included ruthlessness.
Thatcher was a very successful politician but a disaster for Britain. We need badly to move on from Thatcherism.
We do need to move on from Thatcherism. Thatcherism would be an absolute disaster for Britain in the present day. As you say, she really understood nothing about economics. She destroyed British industry. Because of her policies, we now have a HUGE gap between the rich the poor, between the haves and the have-nots. And regards the EU, Thatcher casts a long, dark shadow,
1. Mrs. Thatcher won a scholarship to Oxford University. knew Latin and quoted Tennyson in interviews after she left office.You said she knew nothing about economics, but later you mentioned Friedman’s monetaristism. Your logic is inconsistent.
2. As for the British manufacturing industry you mentioned. Niall Ferguson's answer ‘ Could Michael Foot and Arthur Scargill's partnership revitalize UK manufacturing? ‘
3. You say that Britain wants to get rid of Thatcherism, so what doctrines do you have that Britain can adopt? Social democracy?
Complete garbage. And Kipling won the Nobel Prize for Literature.
Very well put. Couldn’t agree more
@@JupiterThunderyes but Kiplings politics were repulsive. He was a Faschist and supported the Nazi party. Thatcher was an ideologue who had a warped vision of Britain based on an arrogant post-colonial superiority. That’s why she quoted people like Kipling.