Silky Smooth Inline-6s Are All The Rage | 2020 Range Rover Sport
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Not that long ago car companies were abandoning inline 6-cylinder engines due to their cost and packaging constraints. But it turns out V6s were "so last century" and everyone from Land Rover to Mercedes and Mazda is hopping back on the inline-6 bandwagon. Why? Because they are fantastic. Much like the Mercedes EQ inline-6, the JLR 6-cylinder engine is also a mild hybrid with a few tricks up its sleeve.
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Can we get a petition going to all automakers that Americans want amber turn signals cause they are safer and IMO look better
Please.
2nd
I'm sure with the Covid-19 pandemic sweeping across our country, American lawmakers will surely re-focus their attention on your mandatory amber turn signals petition.
Agreed
@@ivanlowjones Ok Mr buzzkill....Why don't you go hug a Covid-19 patient.
They really are. I'm excited for the Mazda Skyactiv-X and Skyactiv-D inline 6 engines.
I just read about that earlier this week. Thats really cool!
Great review, succinct, articulate and no gimmicks. Gives me the information I need in an intelligent way. I’ve subscribed. Picking up my new RRS in a couple of weeks. We’ve had three LR products in the past and the only time they’ve been in the shop has been for annual servicing. Having said that, the five year warranty now gives me some additional peace of mind.
I have the supercharged V8 version and I wouldn't take it any other way! The sound and power is worth the $....
As always, a very comprehensive and meticulous review. Thanks, Alex!
Got an X5 40i with almost every option available, including the Off Road pack. I got the pack mostly because it had air suspension and the M sport differential. Have taken it mildly off the road on some trails and gravel, but Pirelli P-Zero tires prohibit anything more. It's gotta be the best value here. For 86K and great lease rates, it's the fastest competitor, with handling better than a comparably priced Porsche Cayenne. Not sure why anyone would get any competitor. Plus, the Q8 has horrific engine lag (check the forums). Looked at the GLE, but it has hard plastics all across the lower areas, the ride is too floaty, and a lot of glare on the tach screen because it's exposed. The Cayenne gets way too expensive on the S variants with all the options (over 100K to match my X5). Too many fingerprints on the Q8 center stack piano black. The XC90 4 cylinder at 70K plus is a non-starter. The Range Rover reliability issues coupled with lack of any discounts and horrendous lease programs also killed that avenue. So, X5 it was.
I love that you have to go up to $74,000 to get heated seats, blind spot & rear traffic detection!
Tyrel Tolliver I’d cross shop this Range Rover with the Jeep Grand Cherokee in Summit SRT or trackhawk trims.
It's a helpful reminder that RR hates you.
If you can afford a Range Rover, you can afford the options.
You never heard of bmw, mercedes and audi huh?
@@v12-s65 right... even the steering wheel is an option with Audi...
"Electronic supercharger"? Can't wait to see how much one of those will cost to replace to the third owner.
JustaKoreanGuy sounds like the Volvo T6 engines. W JLR reliability record, this probably won’t last very long.
Pauline Weinberger yeah! First owner is a lease. The second owner will be a “certified pre-owner” then the third owner will get it after the dealer dumps it at auction and some shady dealer on the street corner picks it up and sells it someone who wants that Range Rover lifestyle but lives in an apartment complex in the worse part of town and in 2 months the rear air suspension will fail and then you’ll see it riding leaning back. Then the electric supercharger will fail and you’ll see it in the Walmart parking lot with a for sale sign.
It’s made by Valeo or Continental. It’s being used across the luxury car world from Audi to Mercedes and likely BMW soon.
@@JSTRonline2 "is a lease" or you just become grown an buy your shit 🤦🏻♂️
I think the people in these comments misunderstand LR's business model. They're an exclusive, status oriented company. They compete with companies like bentley, mercedes, audi, and so on. It's not meant to be a "value proposition" because the people who purchase these vehicles have the money to not worry about the value of a vehicle. My family owns a range rover and we love it, we've had no issues and it's a lovely car to drive.
I agree!!!
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume most people I'm the comments complaining about reliability have never owned, and aren't looking to own, a Range Rover. I had a 2016 RRSC and currently drive a 2020 Sport Autobiography P525... no significant issues from either.
Same here. I've never had a single issue with either of mine.
I love Jaguar and Land Rover products especially Land Rover but that's definitely a brand where you should lease only
Completely agree. I would love to have a Range Rover Sport but that is a leasemobile if there ever was one.
Lavonte A Well... yes and no. Their used cars sell for so much less that they’re not a bad value as 5 year old used cars, if you budget for massive repairs. They are especially good of you can get an extended full warranty with them.
Any European brand you lease. Asian brands you buy
The weird thing is JLR is the only auto manufacturer that offers a 10 year bumper to bumper warranty on a 10-15 year old vehicle or older, IF you can show all dealer maintenance records during the vehicles lifetime. A friend of mine has a 1997 Jag XJ6 and he found out about this warranty just last week.
Quality has massively improved in recent years, I won’t be shying away from buying my next one. My XF was very reliable and virtually problem free, my Velar so far has been great.
It’s nice but definitely not worth the price. Not to mention JLR reliability and weird tech glitches.
JTL2017 agreed.
an endless money pit
I’ve owned Range Rovers in the UK 🇬🇧 & New Zealand 🇳🇿 and never had any issues. Serviced regularly and use premium fuels, you won’t get any issues. More reliable than my Mercedes, BMWs, Volvos and Audis.
I really appreciate your analytical breakdowns and comparisons.
Man, if LR could just get their reliability in check! 😩😍
Scott K My thoughts exactly every time I see one of their products. So enticing!
If Land Rover/Jaguar could get there act together on reliability, which is the biggest reason a lot of people stay away, imagine how many more Range Rover's and Jaguar vehicles could be sold. IMO Land Rover/Range Rover makes the best SUVs in terms of interior design, exterior design, engine power and offroad capability even though most owners dont offroad their's. If they solve the reliability issue they could make so much more money.
Tjk 92 - FACTS 👆🏼
Tjk 92 fca is also guilty of this too
I hear this a lot, but I've had two RR Sports and not had a single issue with either one.
I have the 2015 ranger rover sport and I haven’t had any issues with. Besides normal maintenance. It’s for people who understand when you take it for service once of year you going to pay a few bucks. But I put my suv up against any brand. This is my third rover. Being buying them since 2006.
@AoA Waiting for Mazda to also bring their inline 6 with RWD and hopefully with a manual 🤞🏼. That should be a nice modern E46 throwback at more attainable price than full on luxury car
Excellent detail review bro this help me to decide which one to bye in Range rover line up.
I'm so glad you mentioned the RX 350 vs the Range Rover Sport since the RX will always be a very dependable/reliable vehicle (as most Lexus models are) while the Land Rover/Range Rover vehicles are the complete opposite... not dependable and generally very unreliable. You're paying 40k more for this Range Rover than you would for the RX, which is a total waste of money
But then how will I get to know my mechanic on a deep personal level, while feeling superior because I’m financing his kids college education.
In the UK we also have a high power 3.0L diesel variant available with 306hp 516ft lb and improved economy, i often get 45mpg from mine. 0-60mph is 6.2s which is fine, the high-power diesel is from the Ingenium range of engines. we also get a full size spare wheel, the same as fitted to the car.
You guys forgot the Porsche Cayenne in the comparison
Incredible review! I am thinking about ordering one of these in the near future!
I did my comparison last year and went with the X5. I highly doubt that I'll take it off road. It's been serving as school bus for my kids and grocery runner. Powerful enough that if I don't engage cruise control, I'll be doing 100 mph not knowing. Comfortable when it drives itself (driving assistant pro). My kids don't fight over climate control. Well, these features are all same in all three vehicle I think. I had 5 series before I bought the X5. I got so used to wireless Apple CarPlay, I put other brands on distant seconds. I also liked the physical buttons on the X5 compare to touch sensitive buttons. When your fingers are cold or dry, touch interface works intermittently. Good luck trying to touch anything with glove on during cold season.
A drop dead gorgeous SUV in this configuration. I'd be very concerned about the reliability of all these high tech options and features.
@Tyrel Tolliver
Sounds about right, unfortunately.
Is the torque figure 406 (what you spoke) or 461 (what the graphic says)? Thank you as usual for a great review.
If you had to choose between Cayenne S or Turbo or Range Rover Sport v6 or v8, which would you choose/recommend?
If we’re to buy one of these I would take it off road because that is what it was designed for. The next reason is because it will depreciate so fast that I would care about the it when it gets old. I will have at least enjoyed it while I can. Best to lease this beast, off road it , get full coverage in case it gets trashed then return it once the fun is over.
Thanks alec, like your comments
Has Land River Reliability Got Any better since their acquisition by tata?
I Think You Need At Least 5 years to show any change in reliability due to change in ownership of the company.
Thanks for the video! What is the difference between the HST and the HSE?
If I knew it wouldn’t fall apart, I’d love it. Sadly they’re only “good” for a couple years. Land Rovers are definitely vehicles you should only lease. I pity anyone who buys a Land Rover product, especially a brand new one or a really old one
Good call. I live in Vegas, so I'm surrounded by entitled, Rang Rover drivers who think they're about the law based on their vehicle. Not sure if I pitty them, though..
@@desertmike680 Agree, it's all about image/branding with the drivers of these vehicles.
Says all the guys who can't afford one and want to talk shit! 🤣
Alex, I was just wondering why the Porsche Cayenne was not included as part of the mix here. I would think that is also a luxury SUV similar to the others and similar in size. Do you feel that is a different category? We have our second Cayenne and do really like it. Especially after redesigned now in 19. The looks of the Range Rover Sport is what we like about that but keep falling back to Porsche based on the seat comfort and the handling, especially making quicker movements. Looking for another car and just wondering your thoughts. Personally I thought the X5, while I love it, was a minor step down to the Range Rover Sport. We had an X5 and nobody ever said Wow the X5, but I do feel they look at the Porsche and Range Rover as a higher level than the Mercedes and BMW.
Had to look up "treadplates." [I didn't think this referred to "door sill trim/covers"]. Now, I have seen the phrase "
Chelsea Tractor" before--a "reference to the affluent Chelsea neighborhood of London, and means an SUV that is never taken off-road, but instead is used solely for school runs and grocery shopping." [this from the Internet somewhere]
Excellent review. So on point. Thx
That’s a wonderful view at 5:30. I can’t stop imagining how big that uh brake caliper is. ;)
Lmaooo wtf
We drove a new Range Rover and hated the touch screens. The interface was confusing and they can be a safety hazard, particularly the low-mounted screen. Good looks does not equal progress. We ended up with a new X5 which not only drove better, it offers multiple ways to control vehicle functions (iDrive controller, voice, touch screen, and gestures).
This brand need to follow Hyundai and Kia and offer a 10 year warranty. Otherwise, they will always be a niche vehicle
Sports are nice, but the full size Range Rover, thats something special.
Man that is a good looking SUV, but I can't bring myself to spend that kind of money on a vehicle with such awful reliability.
I can see my automotive mechanic buddy pulling his hair out when one of these rolling into the shop.
Is that your fictional auto mechanic buddy for the purposes of the AoA comments section?
Why? Mechanics LOVE JLR owners!
@@ivanlowjones No he works for a 2nd gen family owned Italian garage, and I get earful of how awful some cars are every time we ski together.
Most of these I see are leased by business professionals or those visiting the country for a limited time. I don't think they care about reliability or cost of fixing it.
@@dragoonTT Once the warranty is gone, and lost enough value, some budget baller will buy it and shocked when they get the repair bill. The garage my buddy works for still have a v10 bimmer 7 on their lot, which the owner simply abandoned after hearing how much it'll cost him to fix.
I want a review for the cayenne
So nice in every way. Touch control on the steering wheel is absolutely wondrous. Adore the Red seats and some trims. Unfortunately the res of the black interior spoil everything. This is the kind of car I'd buy purely based on emotion cause nothing in the market could give the kind of interior and exterior feel like this one, knowing very well RRs are never reliable and a killer in maintenance.
Look at the trunk shut line against the left hand light cluster at about 3:00! Looks a bit like the trunk is too low on the left hand side.
To a Brit, that’s a feature.
Why not include the LX460 (or the Toyota Landcruiser) as a possible option?
Tully3674 Because it’s REALLY old.
This is sort of like the Volvo I-4 engines that use both, superchargers and turbos, but with a mild hybrid application. My worry is the complexity, especially with LR’s reputation of failures with complex engines.
I think this is the first year with Apple Carplay and Android Auto as standard.
Alex you are good at your job.
well Alex, if you like the on-road dynamic of X5 but prefer the Land Rover lineup of vehicles, you should consider the F-Pace -- on-road capable and still in the JLR family. Off-road test of the F-Pace on youtube channel "SUV Battle" shows it more off-road capable, surprisingly, than X5, GLE or even Discovery Sport.
In the 13:40 acceleration shot where was the engine audi recorded?
The previous engine, a Ford was excellent! Smooth and powerful in acceleration.
Could you consider one of the new Lincolns???Thanks for your thorough reviews as always!
All wheel drive or 4 wheel drive?
Are they still using plastic timing chain guides that are known to fail?
Nothing but trouble
You could get the smaller SUV with a third row, but you couldn't get a third row in the larger model? A strange decision from JLR in 2020. PS: I'm aware that the new full size Range Rover now gets an optional third row.
Great video.
Also Alex, I am confused why you make such a big deal about satellite imagery maps when I can get it on my Android auto in my '18 Elantra... Obviously not in the speedo behind the wheel but still...
Isn’t that silky smooth engine a BMW one? :D
BRING BACK THE SLANT SIX
It will be a nightmare to fix it once broken
I purchased a 2019 sport including the new in line 6. Mechanically the car is fine, unfortunately the software/electronics are the worst of any modern luxury car. Issues include non functional heated seats, lower info screen goes blank, key not found often. Land Rover has no solution. Very disappointed.
Wouldn’t a grand Cherokee Summit w the signature leather package also compete with this?
In case you don't know Jeep is owned by FCA and they are arguably just as bad in reliability as Range Rover/ Jaguar. Id rather get the Range Rover in terms of engine HP and interior and exterior design.
Naveen Krishnamurthy might be a stretch. A near loaded GC is still under the base price of a RR Sport I believe, and that can be optioned by 10-20k +.
Alan Bowers well don’t forget the most expensive grand Cherokee caps at 100K. But it’s way faster 0-60.
Tjk 92 well horsepower wise in most trims the Range Rover is higher. But once you climb into the trackhawk model the Jeep outdoes it by a mile
@@naveenthemachine does the Trackhawk have the same appointments and amenities inside as the Summit? (for some reason I thought the Summit was the most luxury oriented) It's a performance bargain, but dont think it quite matches the RR in terms of luxury and feel inside.
Off-roading ? Not with those tires.
"All that was old is new again...." My first car was a 1954 Kaiser with an inline 6 that offered a fire-breathing 125 HP. :) I followed it up with a '63 Dodge Dart that got me though college with its famous Slant6. It offered even more scalding performance with 145 HP. 0-60 mph....Well, it got there eventually.
I'm not going to be rushing out to get a Range Rover Sport. (Have a kid to send to college.) But I do like SUV's in the RR's size category (192" in length). And I was struck my Alex' comment about the utility of a third row in crossovers of this size. We have a KIA Sorento with a surprisingly accommodating third row for its size (189" in length.) Not suitable for three adults or even for two adults for an extended journey but extremely convenient for occasions when we need to transport more than 5 passengers and would otherwise have to use two vehicles. On the other hand the Sorento offers 3" more legroom and 11" more shoulder room than the RR Sport. And I could buy three Sorentos for the price of the RR Alex drove. :)
Nice seats.
Totally disagree with your comment regarding the 3rd row... most people in the market for a $100k luxury sport SUV are not concerned with carrying that “5th and 6th” passenger.
Please do the 2020 GLE 350! It sells a whole lot more than the 450.
RR uniquely offers genuine 4X4 capabilities. The rest are essentially SUVS
Looks like your overlaid graphics show the wrong torque specs (461) instead of the 406lb-ft it is.
You missed Cayenne.
Heated front seats, a homelink remote, and 3 zone auto climate aren’t standard on a vehicle that starts at nearly 70 grand. That is a horrible decision by Land Rover. Those are extremely common features that one would expect on any luxury vehicle, especially one that expensive
Tyrel Tolliver nah. Sonata is hideous up front with that grille.
My favorite midsize sedans in looks are the Camry XSE and the Mazda6.
autobiography for homelink garage opener? i would buy anything else in that price range on principle alone.
Save your money and buy a Stanley garage door opener at Home Depot for 20dollars
$114k for the top of the trim Range Rover... Endless money pit! A vehicle you can only enjoy when you lease. L
A fully loaded KIA Telluride got better options and is more reliable, looks better and has the best warranty for half the price of this. Lol
But does it have a supercharged v8? Actually good off road if the owner chooses to take it off pavement? Holds its value? Its a still a Kia and it just doesn't compare.
@@ramonj08 of course, that is why you lease a car like a range rover :)
@@ramonj08 No a Telluride doesn't have a supercharged V8 but yes it holds it's value and has a great warranty which the Range Rover doesn't.
You leave but don't own a Range Rover because cost of ownership isn't worth the very few miles of actual driving. Lol
If I had that kind of money to spend on a luxury suv, I'd wait to test drive a GV-80
I'd love one to replace a 2001 Yukon. But as a buy and hold type, it just doesn't make sense. Not only will the repairs come, but the cost for the repairs will be high. Add to that the balky electronics, which is unforgivable in a premium brand and after all the time they've had to correct the problem. Too bad, because so much of it is great.
$70k-$90k shopping would have me looking at a used Porsche Cayenne Turbo S/GLS 63 AMG or a new GLE 53 AMG/Audi SQ8.
And yes, I will take my 90K SUV on light to moderate off road trails. No rock climbing though.
It's a station wagon. At least it is not ugly like some of the competition.
Thirsty beast! Even with a diesel engine, or hybrid! The British are left behind.
It's an Indian product, not British. Britain stopped making vehicles in the mass market decades ago as we were hopelessly crap at it 😂
Wife wants a Sport, I want an M50i. What to do?
cry
Endless money (dollar or pounds) pit.,
What if you lived in Vietnam? Would it be considered an endless "dong" pit, since that's their national currency? I suppose it might be an endless "yen" pit in Japan, an endless "rupee" pit in India, an endless "peso" pit in Mexico, an endless "ruble" pit in Russia. Could it even be an endless "euro" pit in the European Union?
Very nice.
Leo, are you gonna buy one?
Ghen Khoash My wife says I can’t have one. 🥴🥴. She is the boss of me. She says I have enough vehicles. She is mean. 😱
HOW ABOUT A TWIN SCROLL ELECTRIC TURBO/SUPERCHARGER?
I like the car but as reliability stand point would choose BMW X5 over this and looks better ( generic ) than this LR Sport.
Houli mouli, i get Rover does great AWD, but this tire wall is negating all off road effort they put into it...for crying out loud ZL1 LE has more rubber profile
At the first glance I thought it was the new Explorer. Ford loves to copy Land Rover.
You're really paying for the name more than anything. If I had the money to buy a luxury SUV, I'd definitely choose the Genesis GV80 over this. The Kia Hyundai warranty and reliability can't be beat
Awesome review! If I had to purchase in this segment my first choice would be the Audi and then maybe the Mercedes. I always loved the Land Rovers and Jaguars but they have not been very reliable, I would only lease those! lol :-)
the diesel engine is similar to that in the ford and rules all
You can buy a GLE X5 or Q8 and have the "newest model" for ~6 more years. Range Rover's current model is already 7 years old and probably in it's last year of production.
RR isnt the strongest in terms on reliabilty, way too many offroad gadgets = More to go wrong but while you all mock its relability and saying 'ALL' RR are bad or garbage but what i find abit funny is lots of people buys these cars when they look afforadble and they run them on a shoe string, It dont get looked after, it gets thrashed and abused and dont get maintained or service well and they do break the keyboarders raves on about on how bad they are. I never own a RR but one of my friend who had one for almost 2 years and the only issue she had was a faulty third break light, however another friend did had his RR sport broken down (something to do with the gearbox), his previous car was a Audi B7 RS4 (lnice sound) which he thrash it alot so you can imagin what he was like in a V8 RR sport, fortunately he is wealthy enough to repaire it (you broke it , you fix it) unlike most that would just go on a computer and complain about it.....alot. If RR are that bad RR would have been long gone into the history books as nobody will ever buy them and you all know that. Oh and to add on to that, according to Carwow, the relability rating for the Land Rover/Range Rover is 38% while Porsche is only 2% higher, Go figure.
When you look at a BMW X5; naaaaa! Range Rover Sports all day! There is something else that makes you buy RRS. I don’t even like the BMW dash. If you want to race, buy something else. Too many cabs are Mercedes! Naa! RRS all day!
My new 2020 RR PHEV had engine light still turned on after 3 times back to dealer service with changing parts. Now in service 4th time and they said that all this model cars in the world will be recalled for new hybride software that will be ready at the end of September 2020. 3 months after buying a new very expensive car, still stuck to service. Dealer said that JLR refused replacement or refund. I can not even reach the customer service despite my multiple attempts. UNRELIABLE CAR! HORRIBLE SERVICE!!!
At this price point: Enjoy driving - Cayenne. Want the most hp per dollar at the expense of refinement - BMW. Instagram/RUclips influencer with no car knowledge who loves badges and catastrophic depreciation - JLR and Mercedes.
Cayenne sucks its one of the most un reliable turds they have ever seen.
Volvo looks demm cheap in front of range rover and BMW
its a shame v8 engines will no longer be made the end of the petrol head
Unreliable and off road are a terrible combination.
Any Black Label Lincoln Aviator. Great SUV, same features. Save lots of money!!
4runner u better up ur fuken game
This model makes no sense, why does this still exist now that the much better Velar is available?
Mgoblagulkablong I think the interior in this model is supposed to be a notch above with materials, and exterior a notch bigger. Value isn't a factor 🤣
Go back to showing all engine options and power economy etc
NOT! Loud and obnoxious supercharged V8's are all the rage. Like an idiot I traded a V8 Rover Sport for one of these weak and soul-less 6 cylinder Rover Sports. I had it for 2 months and I cried every time a drove it 😯😠😬😡😢😣😩😳😵😝😔😫😪😴. I traded it for a Supercharged V8 Sport. Now I'm laughing, giggling and smiling every time I hear it roar when I step on the gas pedal 😄😃😂😁😀😊☺😅😆😉. Six cylinder Rovers are for grannies, girls and girly-men.
Good decision