I love you Johnny! I feel your pain. I'm a construction work and a member of the LORD'S church and get the same stuff with the Baptist the Pentecostal and all other denominations. it wears me out how they fight against the scriptures and GOD!
This is sad. It is very hard to accept that what you have believed your whole life is wrong, I know from experience. I grew up baptist and now I’m a Christian is the Lord’s church. I knew for years that I was wrong before I was baptized and added to His church.
that is rediculous. the Gospel is stated in 1Cor 15:1-3 as death burial ress. and the is no way that is what John preached.Apollos had to be set right in Act 18:26 knowing only the baptism of john and he was not preaching the baptism in the name of Jesus. Baptist folk are so mixed up it is no wonder they are all turning into pentecostals
The thief on the cross was he baptized in water what about the Jailer he come to Paul and say what must I do to be safe sir Paul told him to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved
that is the dumbest thing I ever heard yet. If you read Act 18 you will find out who these folk were that were not baptized in Jesus name. They were taught by Apollos. Talk about ignorant. Apollos has just been in Ephesus and now Paul finds these folks in Ephesus and he teaches them the truth. He was going to give them spiritual gifts of the Holy Ghost and that is why he ask about the HG. When he found out they knew nothing of the HG he knew they were not baptized properly kinda like Baptist.
I find it sad that someone can proclaim a belief in something, then Johnny asks a simple question if that individual would do what Peter stated if he was right in front of them and they say yes, which contradicts what they believe in. Simply amazed by that.
When Paul said to not forget to assemble yourselves he wanted us to get study his word. The case that some were neglecting doing so as he said so. One thing they didn't have the bible as we do today so, they had to be taught.
JESUS SAVES, and anyone else who would like to respond, if water is not essential for salvation then explain 1 Peter 3:20-21? Or Acts 2:38? Or John 3:5? Or why Paul wasn't told by Ananias to continue praying for salvation in Act 9? Ananias found him praying (Acts 9:11), which would have been the perfect time to make the sinner's prayer scriptural. The sinner's prayer wasn't mentioned but baptism was in Acts 9:18. Water baptism is essential for salvation (Acts 2:38, John 3:5, Matthew 28:18-19) just like believing (John 3:16) Repenting (Acts 2:38) confessing (Matthew 10:32-33) and baptism. Thank you for your comments I hope to hear from you soon.
Baptist Doctrine on Salvation is Unknown to God’s Word Many Baptists say we are saved by praying to Jesus as our Lord and personal Savior - and that is all. But, in the same breath, they will deny that we’re saved through any act of obedience of our own. It’s quite a puzzling doctrine, because: (1) Why would they think that their faith was not an act of obedience? Faith is a work of obedience to God (Jn.6:29; 1Thess.1:3; 2Thess.1:11). (2) Why would they think that acts of obedience to Jesus are not necessary for salvation? It sounds like rebellious talk to me. Heb.5:8-9 says that Jesus “became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.” (See also 2Thess.1:7-9.) Clearly, the Baptist position on salvation is not in harmony with plain Scripture.
Baptist cant even read Mk 16:16 without messing it up. THEY READ HE THAT BELIEVETH AND IS SAVED THEN IS BAPTIZED, WHEN IT SAYS HE THAT BELIEVETH AND IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED, kinda like they cant read act 2:38 repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus for the remission of your sins and you shall receive the gift of HS. Hard to mess that up.unless u believe in faith only which is found once in Luther's german bible only.
Johnny really read John 3:5-7 , 3:15-17 sir you preach Calvinist beliefs. what saves a man the cross or water ? if what your preaching JESUS was not the messiah and was just a man ? Matthew 3 : 6:17 ? why would Jesus need to be saved if he was God? see The church of Christ and her sisters preach Calvinist beliefs and by works of man
@@andrecummings13 He is not pastor he dont have faithfull children adult christians from his wife and he is out of Church of Christ he is a servant of Satan and teach false Gospel of Satan
Jesus asked Martha if she believed the quote below. "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" The only thing that atones for sin is blood. Baptism is a symbol of your faith in that blood. Our resurrected high priest presents his atoning blood to his father on our behalf when we believe in him. Our robes are washed clean in the blood of the lamb of God not by water. You can go through any ritual you want but your heart is what God reads. Do you believe Jesus?
The church is the body of Christ, made up of true believers putting Faith in him as the Son of the Most High and his shed blood for our sins, it not any building. JESUS SAID WE MUST WORSHIP HIM IN SPIRIT AND THRUTH!!
The word "baptize" has dual meaning. It can be used to describe one being submerged in water and it can be used (majority of time) to be immersed in the belief or knowledge of something. COC goes to extreme measures to say that it's not a denomination while simultaneously declaring that it's a specific group aka denomination.
Gday Curtis, In the Greek, there is no dual meaning. Baptism literally translates to being immersed, submerged. It is not a religious word as most believe. To the people hearing Acts 2:38, they knew it was to be immersed under water. John 3:5; 1 peter 3:21; Romans 6:4 As your position would predicate, you are submerged in Christ, then what are you risen to? Out of christ? The bible is very clear we are submerged in water. “See, here is water! What prevents me from being baptized?” ACTS 8:36-39 Also, denomination is generally defined as a recognised branch of the "Christian church". COC, ICOC claim there should be no "branches", the bible has one intended meaning (how else could it make sense). Thus, there can only be one true church, which has the correct life and doctrine (1 Tim 4:16 - which espouses there is no salvation outside or true doctrine, you could also use the branches of the trees analogy Jesus uses). Therefore, his claim is that the churches beliefs align with the bible and therefore are no part of a branch of group. Otherwise, we are just arguing semantics. Hope this helps Curtis, have a good one.
@@danny3656 You are wrong. There is no proof that the people in Acts 2:38 knew that baptism was a reference to water. In fact, the only reference to water baptism in the NT is when the eunic asked to be baptised in water in order to celebrate his conversion into Christianity. When John the Baptist, said that The One coming after him would ' baptise with fire and with the Holy ghost', do you think he was going to dunk people in a fire pit or in a pit of holy ghosts? When a denomination, cult, group or whatever you want to call it, stops preaching that it's followers are the only ones who are going to heaven, then they may be respected. Until then, I'll take Jesus at His word..."Noone comes to the Father except through me". He did not say..."Noone comes to the Father unless you attend the CoChrist". Hope this helps.
Luke 24:46-47 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
@@lindahutchens8612 Jesus Christ did the work on the Gross.. Salvation is free, through the blood of Jesus Christ.. Believing in what Jesus Christ did on the Gross. Ephesians 2:8-9.
God's Plan of Salvation GOD'S PART 1. The great love of God for man (John 3:16) 2. He gave His Son, Jesus Christ, as the Saviour (Luke 19:10) 3. Sent the Holy Spirit as a guide (John 16:13) 4. Gave the Gospel as "the power" unto salvation (Romans 1:16) 5. Provided atonement by the blood of Christ (Romans 5:9) MAN'S PART 1. Hear the Gospel. (Romans 10:17, John 8:32) 2. Believe the Gospel (Hebrews 11:6, John 20:31) 3. Repent of past sins (Luke 13:3, Acts 17:30) 4. Confess faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 10:10, Matthew 10:32) 5. Be Baptized (Galatians 3:27, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38) 6. Be faithful unto death (Revelation 2:10) God has done His part; will you do yours?
The phrase, “shall be saved,” connects the blood of Christ and baptism. In Romans 5:8-9, the apostle Paul said, “But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.” But when Jesus gave the “Great Commission,” He said these words: “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned” (Mk.16:15-16). So, while there is no doubt that Jesus saves us by His blood, He only does so when we are baptized. This connects the blood of Christ to baptism!
when Peter said to repent and be baptized he was still preaching the gospel of the Kingdom. Jesus gave the gospel of grace directly to Paul. Peter did not realize how that God had come to the Gentiles until he had the dream of the sheet with the unclean animals in it.
Peter and Paul did not teach different doctrines: "But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed." - Galatians 1:23 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." Peter said this in Acts 2:21 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." - Paul said this in Romans 10:13 Both men were teaching baptism for remission of sins in the name of Christ.
Peter preached the baptism of the Spirit through faith in the gospel not water baptism.. He had already preached to gentiles in Acts 10:47-48 who had already received the Spirit through faith in the gospel.. Peter then asked "who can forbid these water baptism seen as they have already received the Spirit.. Philip a Jew preached the gospel to the gentile eunuch and he was told he had to believe on Christ first before he could receive water baptism. Paul rebuked those who were exalting water baptism above the gospel in 1 Cor 1:17-19 as he clearly separated the gospel from water baptism as did Peter and Philip.. For it is the gospel which is the power unto salvation to those that believe not water baptism.
Brother John And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; [9] And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Caleb Robertson 1 Corinthians 1:17-18 KJV [17] For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. [18] For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Really? So the original receivers of Mark's gospel, when they heard the Great Commission in Mark 16:16 all the rest of that stuff was "implied"...that's called special pleading my friend. There was NO command to hear, repent, or confess, so again how did they know to do this when they were not explicitly told? Or did they have to wait till they received the epistle to the Romans to figure that one out. Maybe they had to do all of it again since according to your logic they weren't saved.
Repent & believe what? Not on the death, burial, resurrection, repent & believe the kingdom is at hand. Because JC is not yet dead, as I stated his disciples did not believe nor did they quite understand this, neither did John odisciples LK 24:11,JHN20:23-25. The death, burial, resurrection as an accomplished fact was first preached day of Pentecost Acts 2. No1 b4 that was ever told 2 obey based on these facts. It's gospel 101 the basics u need 2 repeat the class my friend.
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Acts 16:30-31
David you stopped short son, Paul and Silas continued teaching the Gospel in verses 32 and 33, he wouldn't have done that if verse 31 had included everything!!! Acts 16:32-33 KJV " And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway."
@@kevinhoneycutt238 Correct. But you forgot one thing "son". Water baptism is not part of the gospel... notice how Paul seperated the two from eachother... For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1 Corinthians 1:17 Water baptism has nothing to do with salvation. Its simply a visible testimony to others that your dead and buried with Christ and risen in newness of life.
@@frustratedmajority851 why then did he baptized the Corinthians twice in Acts 19:3-6, " And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied." Baptism is part of salvation in every account taught by the Apostles.
@@kevinhoneycutt238 Deal with the verse i gave you before asking me to deal with another of yours. You guys always answer with another question. Paul said Christ did NOT send him to baptise... but to preach the gospel. Therefore water baptism isnt part of the gospel (read the verse a few times). The gospel is the power of God unto salvation to them that believe. Period. The book of Acts is a dangerous place for those who are unlearned. For example... Cornelius recieved the gift of Holy Ghost BEFORE getting baptized (Acts 10:43-45). Funny how you dont wanna mention those kinds of examples since they go against what Peter said in Acts 2:38... he said you must be baptized before recieving the gift of the Holy Ghost. Now, deal with those verses. Put down the phone/tablet/computer or whatever it is your using, open your kjv bible, pray and ask God for wisdom, and deal with those verses.
@@frustratedmajority851 I did deal with it, the Corinthians plan of salvation and what they were told to do is in the book of Acts. Just like Paul said in 1 Corinthians 1:14 " I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius" Baptism is taught by Paul for salvation
Also, in regards to Acts 2, Peter preached the gospel which is the death, burial and resurrection of Christ to these Jews who did reject Christ beforehand.. Peter didn't tell them to receive water baptism for remission of sins, it was the baptism of the Spirit through faith in the gospel which is faith in Jesus Christ for remission of sins give all the prophets witness. Acts 10:43 KJV j Acts 2:41 says they received the word which was the gospel preached by Peter and then they were baptised by the Spirit of God. Acts 8:36-38 shows us Philip explaining to the eunuch a gentile before he received water baptism he had to receive Jesus first and he had already preached the gospel to the eunuch from the old testament. Peter also again confirms that there were gentile believers who had already received the Spirit through faith in the gospel as he said to the Jews, "who can forbid them water baptism seen as they had already received the Spirit.." You see, if one doesn't compare scripture with scripture then one is going to end up twisting the scriptures like this man on the t.v.. Paul clearly separates the gospel from water baptism as there were Christians who were exalting both the baptizer and water baptism above the gospel so he put them all straight on the matter. Furthermore, the thief on the cross wasn't baptised and God is not a respecter of persons meaning that every man can be saved only one way which is by faith in Christ for remission of sins. Acts 10:43, Acts 26:18, Rom 3:25-26 KJV Water baptism is not once mentioned in the gospel and Peter, Philip and Paul all preached the gospel to both Jew and gentile alike.. Eph 1:13 clearly speaks that after ye heard the word of truth the gospel of your salvation after ye believed ye were sealed by the Spirit and that applied to those Jews and gentiles in Acts 2:38-41, Acts 8:36-38, Acts 10:47-48 KJV God is not the author of confusion but man is.. 1 Corinthians 1:17-18 King James Version (KJV) 17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Every time y'all here baptized y'all think is talking about water dippy saved and going to heaven you got to get baptized in the blood of Jesus and you don't do that physical the Holy Spirit baptize you in Jesus when you put your faith in Jesus and you want to know the truth there's three baptism there's a spiritual baptism when you come to Christ do the water baptism and there's a baptism in the Holy Spirit
It is a matter sematic. There is the church of believers and there is the local congregation of believers. No matter what you call yourself or call your beliefs, Church of God or Church of Christ or First Baptist of so & so, you are still a denomination, ie; a group of believers in Christ Jesus. As I recall there was the Church of Antioch so named after the city of Antioch, not to mention the seven Churches of Revelations. So, lets get real people - there is no such thing as a non-denominational church. No matter what town or city you may travel to you will always find a Church of Christ near by. An by the by, Christianity itself is a religion. To worship Jesus Christ is a religion. Religion, look it up... denomination, look it up.
There is a religious organization that calls itself nondenominational but its another so called church not found in the scriptures. Denomination is a section. Its religious division. Like chopping up something in pieces and calling each little piece something different. Is that what Christ prayed for? Is that what he wanted?
As believers in Jesus there is but one church. Even the congregation/Churches in the New testaments had different beliefs and (mis-)understandings of what a church/Christian should be like. There was also outside influences that tried to corrupt the gospels when Christianity was young. Hence, the Epistles of the Apostles. Is it any different today? This is why we work out our salvation with fear and trembling, seeking the truth from the Bible. I do agree with you...
If you plant an apple seed, and apple tree will come up, if you plant a peach seed, a peach tree will come up, if you plant the seed of the Word of God as found in the New Testament, a New Testament Church will come up. That's why we don't add to God's Word or take away from God's Word. No where in the New Testament does it tell them to sing praises to God with an instrument of music like a piano or organ. That's adding to God's Word. The only instrument of music we have scriptural authority for is our vocal cords. (Eph. 5:19, Col 3:16) How can a man sing with the Spirit and understanding if he or she is busy worrying about what chord or key to play the instrument in? God wants all your heart not part of it when you worship. Jesus said in John 3 that those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth so its necessary that we not go beyond what is written in God's Word because to add to God's Word is adding our human opinions to God's Word.
I disagree that COC isn't a denomination. It is the Cambellite Church. Alaxander Cambell claimed to have restored the church. Who made AC a apostle?? Such things as forbidding musical instruments is not scriptural and man made doctrine of the Cambellite church. Musical instruments are not authorized. Well who authorized the use of electricity to assist in worship?? I agree singing is from the heart and mind but using a piano in the background doesn't stop anyone from singing from the heart. This is denominational doctrine of the COC. Scripture does not forbid musical instruments in worship. You say the Baptist just decided to do their own thing. Well what enzactly the the cambellites do?? They came up with their doctrine and put church of Christ on the door to claim theirs is only true church. Baptist only represents the people and their specific beliefs to clarify them against other groups. I think it is dishonest for church of Christ to not be honest about what they are....the cambellite church. If baptist take the sign down and replace it with a COC sign nothing changes. Baptist are Christians that belong to the body if Christ but need a specific name to differentiat themselves from other groups who they disagree. I also believe COC are Christians and in the body of Christ. I believe the followers of Jesus Christ are his CHURH. You make it as if Baptist started own religion and worshiped John. Baptist worship Jesus Christ! Here's on for you.....when the disciples complained of others healing and casting Demond's in Christs name he told them to leave them alone. Those who aren't against me are with me. Are Baptist against Jesus Christ? The founder of the COC, Alexander Cambell was also Baptised by a baptist preacher. The guy didn't even practice what he preached. That makes his following based on a lie
"Well who authorized the use of electricity to assist in worship?" So, is your argument that instruments "assist" you in worship? And how is electricity being offered by us to God? I don't understand this line of thinking at all. You act like the Campbells rose up one day and stopped all instruments and created their own church. That is not what happened. Instruments were ADDED hundreds of years after the church was established by Jesus. That is a fact. If the Campbells simply recognized that fact, why criticize them for it? And another person who complains about the words "church of Christ." We don't use "church of Christ" the same way you do. There is only ONE church that Jesus built. It's His church, and we are the ones who are called out (Greek is ekklesia, the called out, English is church). The called out ones of Christ is what we are. If a Baptist can be a Christian, then why keep associating themselves with the word "Baptist" and not with Christ?? It's His church! There is no Baptist church in the Bible. And generally, what Baptists preach isn't found in the Bible either, so how can they be Christians when they teach something contrary to God's Word? I've never read one word from what the Campbells wrote. Don't need to either, they didn't start or build a church, Jesus already did that 2000 years ago. If you want to be a member of HIS church, the scriptures tell us how to do so.
JohnnyRebKy Well your wrong! The church of Christ is not a denomination because we have no head office or board of directors or divisions.The head of our Church is Jesus Christ. Our Church was started at the time of Pentecost and has nothing to do with the Campbell movement in 1906.
I dont even know what the point is here?? I just ran across this vidio , and I dont know what the hey?? Just confusing? Maybe thier are other vidios to go with it. ??? Just trying to find vidios, talking about Jesus and the Gospel.. Not confusion. ???????
@6153calme What an interesting non-response to my question. By the way your biblical knowledge is sorely lacking. The gospel was preached both in John the Baptist's ministry and during Jesus' ministry. After all didn't Jesus go about proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom of God? Did he not command all the Jews that they must repent and believe the Gospel? They weren't given the option I following the law or the gospel. You seriously need to read your Bible and not your CoC Sunday School charts.
Guess u also don't know that some of those who obeyed John's baptism were lost, and knew nothing about the gospel Acts 19, so do u know what the gospel of the kingdom is? What did Jesus say the gospel of the kingdom was? Apparently his disciples did not know, & neither did John's. MT4:23;9:35;24:14;MK 1:14, after u read them all tell me what Jesus said the gospel of the kingdom was, bet u can't. Keep n mind u have something they did not.
Did Jesus publicly teach his death, burial, resurrection according to script. No he only told his disciples that & they did not understand. John preached repentance saying they should believe on the 1 after him, Acts19:1-5 which he did not quite get, nor his disciples Jhn3:23-. The first GOSPEL sermon was not preached until ACTS 2. Or do u not know what the gospel is 1COR15:1-4. I don't think u know what the gospel of the kingdom means, nor what John preached. Nor do u kno what John's job was.
why do u have argument among non catholic...? Evry non catholic fight for different doctrine.why? if u the pastors evangelist n others do like that then to whom the we the members of the church should go?
Furthermore, your comment on Johns disciples in Ephesus shows your ignorance of the whole story found there and subsequent Church History. There were a contengent of John's disciples who never joined Jesus. After John's death the remaining followers dispersed and became heretical as Acts 19 indicates. By this time, a particular group claiming allegiance to John was there. Notice too they knew NOTHING of the Holy Spirit. Also the apostles only received John's Baptism. Were they lost?
When IF gives this command n MK 16, the HS/w pwr had not been fun 2 the apostles they were only told wait at Jerusalem Acts 1. The plan of salvation was not givn until ACTS2 when Peter used the keys (MT 16) to open Way. B4 acts2 u nvr hear an apostle tell anyone how to be saved. The first command is Hear o Israel MK 12:29, ACTS2:22, w/o Faith it is impossible Heb 11:6, God winked com repent Acts17:30, w/mouth confess Rom 10:10, ACTS 8:35-37, baptized MK16, ACTS 2:3, 8:36, GAL 3:26-28, 1Pet 3:21
Wow. Such ignorance for someone who claims to be a part of a religious movement that claims to have the exclusive scoop on all things Biblical. So when Jesus went out proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom that message had zero content? All it was is just some prophecy of a supposed soon coming gospel? Maybe you should read Mark 1:15 where that content was given: To REPENT and BELIEVE! Did not John say He was the Lamb of God? Did not Jesus say He would be the new Serpent Staff of Moses?
Acts 2:38 never mentioned water... to what are those who called on the name of Jesus instructed to do? Repent (turning from) and being fully immersed into Jesus. "Baptist" have taught this since the the days of Jesus, because it's what Jesus taught.
G'day Mike, John 3:5; 1 peter 3:21; Romans 6:4 Baptism literally translates to being immersed or submerged. As your position would predicate, you are submerged in Christ, then what are you risen to? Out of christ? The bible is very clear we are submerged in water. “See, here is water! What prevents me from being baptized?” ACTS 8:36-39
Jesus says "He that believes AND is baptized shall be saved (Mark 16:16) NOT "He that believes is saved and is baptized." Also I Peter 3:21 says that baptism doth also now save us. We (coC) are not trusting in the water but trusting what God said happens in baptism ; Colossians 2:12 buried with Him in baptism (it is immersion in water since it is a burial) in which you also were raised with Him through faith in THE WORKING OF GOD, who raised Him from the dead. Once again God does the work in baptism we only obey Him in submitting to baptism; we are not trusting in ourselves by doing what He says. How can my obedience end up trusting in myself when God says to do it? I am counting on the operation of God to save me in baptism not there is power in water. It is God's power that saves when we do as He says and and are baptized INTO CHRIST and have PUT ON CHRIST in baptism; Galations 3:27. Can one be saved without being baptized into Christ? Baptism by itself does not save must also hear the word, believe; for faith to provide salvation, it must exceed mental acceptance: John 12:42-43; James 2:17-26. We believe that Jesus died, was buried and resurrected for our sins. Our trust in Jesus as "Lord" motivates obedience to His commands Acts 2:36-38, Hebrews 5:9 as well as many others listed above and the following: we must also confess that Jesus is the Son of God; (Read Acts 8:35-39 and see what needs to be done when Jesus is preached and especially note verse 37 to see the confession that needs to be said). Next one needs to repent (Acts 17:30-31). Repentance exceeds feelings of remorse and reveals itself in actions (Matthew 3:7-8). When the mind (example "heart") changes about sin, the penitent soul begins to "put off" the old actions of wickedness ((Colossians 3:5-10) and to "put on" the new behavious of a child of God (Colossians 3:12-14). When Jesus died on the cross He offered His blood for the sins of the world (John 19:34; I Peter 1:18-20, 2:21-25). For God to provide salvation, therefore, sinners must receive the blood of Jesus. Essentially, salvation requires a way that takes the sinner to the death of Jesus. The New Testament identifies this as baptism (Romans 6:3-6). The Christian faith for today only authorizes one baptism (Ephesians 4:5). This baptism requires water and involves immersion (Acts 8:36-38; Romans 6"4; Colossians 2:12, I Peter 3:20-21). New Testament baptism results in salvation (Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2:38, 22:16; I Peter 3:21). God has confined all spiritual blessings "in Christ" (Ephesians 1:3). According to the word of God, in addition to providing access to the death of Christ (example blood) of Jesus, baptism transports the obedient soul "INTO CHRIST" (Romans 6:3, Galations 3:26-27) where every spiritual blessing dwells. According to the Lord no disciple enters a relationship with the Godhead without being baptized (Matthew 28:18-20; cf. Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2:38. Let's end by saying that baptism is how we put on Christ (Galations 3:27), baptism is the way into Christ; Romans 6:3 and Galations 3:27 and baptism if for remission of sins; Acts 2:38 and Acts 22:16. Remember that today is the day of salvation.
First you must believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, then you call on Jesus to save you.. Baptism doesn't save you.. believing the Son of God, it's Grace and Mercy that saves us.. Baptism is a symbolic of your Faith.. John 3:16 1 John 5:13 Ephesians 2:8-9 Romans 10:13 Romans 5:8 Romans 3:23
Note that baptism comes after salvation; not before as you mentioned....Jesus, himself, said "He that believes AND is baptized shall be saved and he who does not believe shall be condemned; Mark 16:16. If one thinks they are saved before being baptized they are still in their sins and must be baptized for remission of sins; Acts 2:38. In baptism one contacts the death of Christ where the blood was shed; Romans 6:3 and note it is a burial Romans 6:4. Also read Colossians 2:12 and note who does the work in baptism (faith in the working of God). Also read Galations 3:26-27.
Robertson is NOT (as you say) obsessed with Southern Baptists...and for you to say that is very immature and disingenuous... and you know it. Robertson is guilty of nothing except reading the Scriptures to you *verbatim* and instead of accepting what can plainly see and hear...you choose instead to *attack the message* because you want to hold on to your false beliefs. Childish!
Christ did not need to Baptize any. The Baptism of Acts 2:38 where one receives the end dwelling of the Holy Ghost did not start until after the death of Christ.
When Christ was crucified, He baptised us in His spirit. God sent us His one and only son to suffer with us so we can follow His spirit and be up with the Father in heaven.
Linda, 1 Corinthians 10:1-2, " Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;"
One false teacher exposing the mouth works for salvation of another false teacher. however, the church of christ guy wrecked the baptist guys world ...
Biblical Christianity is dead in Western Protestant Europe for this verseology. The fruit of this verseology is 85% agnostics and atheists and an Islamic invasion. The Lutheran Bishops quoted Romans 13 to support Hitler and again the same to the communists. There are 7,957 verses all can be used to justify not loving God and your neighbor. Martin Luther after his fall from supreme authority to Zwingli said, "Everyman who quotes scripture thinks himself a theologican and a doctor of the church. His proof is he ate the Holy Spirit, feathers and all". A bunch of toothpicks claiming to be the tree.
the host cannot respect the talker. He always dont lets him speak. And he is not talking Biblicall. The Baptist religion is the one most closely to the Holy Bible. In the days we are living in.
What Jesus told us, that is what we have to do. And Jesus talked about the Old Testament and the New one. If Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is not in the center of your words, then you lie.
fallenSlave How is that true? They are not even in the Bible. They didn't start in Jerusalem after the first Pentecost after the resurrection, they were not spoken of by the Prophets, they teach false doctrine like calling on the Lord verbally to be saved, once saved always saved, instrumental music in worship, they were started in the 1600s, John Smythe started the organization but didn't shed his blood for the world and can't save the world. Please rethink your statement.
The self named "Church of Christ" is about the closets you can get to the "Catholic Church" without joining back in with it. The "CoC teaches "works for salvation" "but to him that worketh not but BELIEVETH on him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness".
Sounds like Johnny has to read more of the Bible. Sounds like name-it-and-claim-it to me. Oh yeah, debating over the Bible is never a good thing either.
I love you Johnny! I feel your pain. I'm a construction work and a member of the LORD'S church and get the same stuff with the Baptist the Pentecostal and all other denominations. it wears me out how they fight against the scriptures and GOD!
Keep putting them videos out brother Johnny love em.
This is sad. It is very hard to accept that what you have believed your whole life is wrong, I know from experience. I grew up baptist and now I’m a Christian is the Lord’s church. I knew for years that I was wrong before I was baptized and added to His church.
Blake Lackey So glad you found the Lord's church; and welcome, brother in Christ!!!
Yes ,welcome to the one body of Christ our beloved brother in Christ.
Jesus also says in Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Because anyone who doesn't believe obviously wouldn't get BAPTIZED so there was no need to be redundant
Well Preacher Robertson stumped him at every angle.
that is rediculous. the Gospel is stated in 1Cor 15:1-3 as death burial ress. and the is no way that is what John preached.Apollos had to be set right in Act 18:26 knowing only the baptism of john and he was not preaching the baptism in the name of Jesus. Baptist folk are so mixed up it is no wonder they are all turning into pentecostals
it's the Lords church and he adds to his church
Acts 2:47
The thief on the cross was he baptized in water what about the Jailer he come to Paul and say what must I do to be safe sir Paul told him to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved
that is the dumbest thing I ever heard yet. If you read Act 18 you will find out who these folk were that were not baptized in Jesus name. They were taught by Apollos. Talk about ignorant. Apollos has just been in Ephesus and now Paul finds these folks in Ephesus and he teaches them the truth. He was going to give them spiritual gifts of the Holy Ghost and that is why he ask about the HG. When he found out they knew nothing of the HG he knew they were not baptized properly kinda like Baptist.
Thanks Johnny. I’m sharing this!
I find it sad that someone can proclaim a belief in something, then Johnny asks a simple question if that individual would do what Peter stated if he was right in front of them and they say yes, which contradicts what they believe in. Simply amazed by that.
When Paul said to not forget to assemble yourselves he wanted us to get study his word. The case that some were neglecting doing so as he said so. One thing they didn't have the bible as we do today so, they had to be taught.
JESUS SAVES, and anyone else who would like to respond, if water is not essential for salvation then explain 1 Peter 3:20-21? Or Acts 2:38? Or John 3:5? Or why Paul wasn't told by Ananias to continue praying for salvation in Act 9? Ananias found him praying (Acts 9:11), which would have been the perfect time to make the sinner's prayer scriptural. The sinner's prayer wasn't mentioned but baptism was in Acts 9:18. Water baptism is essential for salvation (Acts 2:38, John 3:5, Matthew 28:18-19) just like believing (John 3:16) Repenting (Acts 2:38) confessing (Matthew 10:32-33) and baptism. Thank you for your comments I hope to hear from you soon.
+lBaerdeLouisYAna you need to make up your mine! Noah was under a different law than the resurrection of Jesus Christ that was under "Grace"
Baptist Doctrine on Salvation is Unknown to God’s Word
Many Baptists say we are saved by praying to Jesus as our Lord and personal Savior - and that is all. But, in the same breath, they will deny that we’re saved through any act of obedience of our own. It’s quite a puzzling doctrine, because: (1) Why would they think that their faith was not an act of obedience? Faith is a work of obedience to God (Jn.6:29; 1Thess.1:3; 2Thess.1:11). (2) Why would they think that acts of obedience to Jesus are not necessary for salvation? It sounds like rebellious talk to me. Heb.5:8-9 says that Jesus “became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.” (See also 2Thess.1:7-9.) Clearly, the Baptist position on salvation is not in harmony with plain Scripture.
Baptist cant even read Mk 16:16 without messing it up. THEY READ HE THAT BELIEVETH AND IS SAVED THEN IS BAPTIZED, WHEN IT SAYS HE THAT BELIEVETH AND IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED, kinda like they cant read act 2:38 repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus for the remission of your sins and you shall receive the gift of HS. Hard to mess that up.unless u believe in faith only which is found once in Luther's german bible only.
Johnny really read John 3:5-7 , 3:15-17 sir you preach Calvinist beliefs. what saves a man the cross or water ? if what your preaching JESUS was not the messiah and was just a man ? Matthew 3 : 6:17 ? why would Jesus need to be saved if he was God? see The church of Christ and her sisters preach Calvinist beliefs and by works of man
Amen! Churches of Russia in Siberia salut you!
Watch Pastor Gino Jennings
@@andrecummings13 He is not pastor he dont have faithfull children adult christians from his wife and he is out of Church of Christ he is a servant of Satan and teach false Gospel of Satan
Jesus asked Martha if she believed the quote below. "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"
The only thing that atones for sin is blood. Baptism is a symbol of your faith in that blood. Our resurrected high priest presents his atoning blood to his father on our behalf when we believe in him. Our robes are washed clean in the blood of the lamb of God not by water. You can go through any ritual you want but your heart is what God reads. Do you believe Jesus?
TRUTH ! Good onya Johnny
maybe you need to read Luk 24:44-49 Jesus there explains all that was spoken of him in scripture. they didnt understand it.
You don't except Jesus, Jesus excepts you ACTS 2 :47 the Lord added to the church s
The church is the body of Christ, made up of true believers putting Faith in him as the Son of the Most High and his shed blood for our sins, it not any building. JESUS SAID WE MUST WORSHIP HIM IN SPIRIT AND THRUTH!!
How are you using the Church? Are you using iT in the singular or as all the denominations?
The word "baptize" has dual meaning. It can be used to describe one being submerged in water and it can be used (majority of time) to be immersed in the belief or knowledge of something. COC goes to extreme measures to say that it's not a denomination while simultaneously declaring that it's a specific group aka denomination.
Gday Curtis,
In the Greek, there is no dual meaning.
Baptism literally translates to being immersed, submerged. It is not a religious word as most believe. To the people hearing Acts 2:38, they knew it was to be immersed under water. John 3:5; 1 peter 3:21; Romans 6:4
As your position would predicate, you are submerged in Christ, then what are you risen to? Out of christ?
The bible is very clear we are submerged in water.
“See, here is water! What prevents me from being baptized?” ACTS 8:36-39
Also, denomination is generally defined as a recognised branch of the "Christian church".
COC, ICOC claim there should be no "branches", the bible has one intended meaning (how else could it make sense). Thus, there can only be one true church, which has the correct life and doctrine (1 Tim 4:16 - which espouses there is no salvation outside or true doctrine, you could also use the branches of the trees analogy Jesus uses). Therefore, his claim is that the churches beliefs align with the bible and therefore are no part of a branch of group. Otherwise, we are just arguing semantics.
Hope this helps Curtis, have a good one.
@@danny3656 You are wrong. There is no proof that the people in Acts 2:38 knew that baptism was a reference to water. In fact, the only reference to water baptism in the NT is when the eunic asked to be baptised in water in order to celebrate his conversion into Christianity. When John the Baptist, said that The One coming after him would ' baptise with fire and with the Holy ghost', do you think he was going to dunk people in a fire pit or in a pit of holy ghosts?
When a denomination, cult, group or whatever you want to call it, stops preaching that it's followers are the only ones who are going to heaven, then they may be respected. Until then, I'll take Jesus at His word..."Noone comes to the Father except through me". He did not say..."Noone comes to the Father unless you attend the CoChrist". Hope this helps.
Exactly , people don’t want to obey what’s written. That’s why Jesus said ; my sheep know My voice.
Why all the alarm my neighbor ? The Lord knows them that are his - and he chose them before the world began- and he will not lose one.
Luke 24:46-47
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Yes. And remission of sins is done thru Baptism. Acts 2:37-38, Galatians 3:27.
@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 AMEN.
You get saved by believing and get Baptize.
Mark 16:16
@@lindahutchens8612 Jesus Christ did the work on the Gross.. Salvation is free, through the blood of Jesus Christ.. Believing in what Jesus Christ did on the Gross. Ephesians 2:8-9.
God's Plan of Salvation
GOD'S PART
1. The great love of God for man (John 3:16)
2. He gave His Son, Jesus Christ, as the Saviour (Luke 19:10)
3. Sent the Holy Spirit as a guide (John 16:13)
4. Gave the Gospel as "the power" unto salvation (Romans 1:16)
5. Provided atonement by the blood of Christ (Romans 5:9)
MAN'S PART
1. Hear the Gospel. (Romans 10:17, John 8:32)
2. Believe the Gospel (Hebrews 11:6, John 20:31)
3. Repent of past sins (Luke 13:3, Acts 17:30)
4. Confess faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 10:10, Matthew 10:32)
5. Be Baptized (Galatians 3:27, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38)
6. Be faithful unto death (Revelation 2:10)
God has done His part; will you do yours?
The phrase, “shall be saved,” connects the blood of Christ and baptism. In Romans 5:8-9, the apostle Paul said, “But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.” But when Jesus gave the “Great Commission,” He said these words: “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned” (Mk.16:15-16). So, while there is no doubt that Jesus saves us by His blood, He only does so when we are baptized. This connects the blood of Christ to baptism!
Campbell said he can trace the Baptist Church back to the days of the Apostles..
when Peter said to repent and be baptized he was still preaching the gospel of the Kingdom. Jesus gave the gospel of grace directly to Paul. Peter did not realize how that God had come to the Gentiles until he had the dream of the sheet with the unclean animals in it.
That is not exactly true.
Peter and Paul did not teach different doctrines:
"But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed." - Galatians 1:23
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." Peter said this in Acts 2:21
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." - Paul said this in Romans 10:13
Both men were teaching baptism for remission of sins in the name of Christ.
Peter preached the baptism of the Spirit through faith in the gospel not water baptism.. He had already preached to gentiles in Acts 10:47-48 who had already received the Spirit through faith in the gospel.. Peter then asked "who can forbid these water baptism seen as they have already received the Spirit.. Philip a Jew preached the gospel to the gentile eunuch and he was told he had to believe on Christ first before he could receive water baptism. Paul rebuked those who were exalting water baptism above the gospel in 1 Cor 1:17-19 as he clearly separated the gospel from water baptism as did Peter and Philip.. For it is the gospel which is the power unto salvation to those that believe not water baptism.
Brother John And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; [9] And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
Caleb Robertson 1 Corinthians 1:17-18 KJV
[17] For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. [18] For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Really? So the original receivers of Mark's gospel, when they heard the Great Commission in Mark 16:16 all the rest of that stuff was "implied"...that's called special pleading my friend. There was NO command to hear, repent, or confess, so again how did they know to do this when they were not explicitly told? Or did they have to wait till they received the epistle to the Romans to figure that one out. Maybe they had to do all of it again since according to your logic they weren't saved.
Judge says sustained
Actually they dont..there is a video of him debating them...
Repent & believe what? Not on the death, burial, resurrection, repent & believe the kingdom is at hand. Because JC is not yet dead, as I stated his disciples did not believe nor did they quite understand this, neither did John odisciples LK 24:11,JHN20:23-25. The death, burial, resurrection as an accomplished fact was first preached day of Pentecost Acts 2. No1 b4 that was ever told 2 obey based on these facts. It's gospel 101 the basics u need 2 repeat the class my friend.
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Acts 16:30-31
David you stopped short son, Paul and Silas continued teaching the Gospel in verses 32 and 33, he wouldn't have done that if verse 31 had included everything!!!
Acts 16:32-33 KJV
" And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway."
@@kevinhoneycutt238
Correct. But you forgot one thing "son". Water baptism is not part of the gospel... notice how Paul seperated the two from eachother...
For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1 Corinthians 1:17
Water baptism has nothing to do with salvation. Its simply a visible testimony to others that your dead and buried with Christ and risen in newness of life.
@@frustratedmajority851 why then did he baptized the Corinthians twice in Acts 19:3-6, " And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied."
Baptism is part of salvation in every account taught by the Apostles.
@@kevinhoneycutt238
Deal with the verse i gave you before asking me to deal with another of yours. You guys always answer with another question. Paul said Christ did NOT send him to baptise... but to preach the gospel. Therefore water baptism isnt part of the gospel (read the verse a few times). The gospel is the power of God unto salvation to them that believe. Period.
The book of Acts is a dangerous place for those who are unlearned.
For example... Cornelius recieved the gift of Holy Ghost BEFORE getting baptized (Acts 10:43-45). Funny how you dont wanna mention those kinds of examples since they go against what Peter said in Acts 2:38... he said you must be baptized before recieving the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Now, deal with those verses. Put down the phone/tablet/computer or whatever it is your using, open your kjv bible, pray and ask God for wisdom, and deal with those verses.
@@frustratedmajority851 I did deal with it, the Corinthians plan of salvation and what they were told to do is in the book of Acts.
Just like Paul said in 1 Corinthians 1:14
" I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius"
Baptism is taught by Paul for salvation
Also, in regards to Acts 2, Peter preached the gospel which is the death, burial and resurrection of Christ to these Jews who did reject Christ beforehand.. Peter didn't tell them to receive water baptism for remission of sins, it was the baptism of the Spirit through faith in the gospel which is faith in Jesus Christ for remission of sins give all the prophets witness. Acts 10:43 KJV
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Acts 2:41 says they received the word which was the gospel preached by Peter and then they were baptised by the Spirit of God. Acts 8:36-38 shows us Philip explaining to the eunuch a gentile before he received water baptism he had to receive Jesus first and he had already preached the gospel to the eunuch from the old testament.
Peter also again confirms that there were gentile believers who had already received the Spirit through faith in the gospel as he said to the Jews, "who can forbid them water baptism seen as they had already received the Spirit.." You see, if one doesn't compare scripture with scripture then one is going to end up twisting the scriptures like this man on the t.v..
Paul clearly separates the gospel from water baptism as there were Christians who were exalting both the baptizer and water baptism above the gospel so he put them all straight on the matter. Furthermore, the thief on the cross wasn't baptised and God is not a respecter of persons meaning that every man can be saved only one way which is by faith in Christ for remission of sins. Acts 10:43, Acts 26:18, Rom 3:25-26 KJV
Water baptism is not once mentioned in the gospel and Peter, Philip and Paul all preached the gospel to both Jew and gentile alike.. Eph 1:13 clearly speaks that after ye heard the word of truth the gospel of your salvation after ye believed ye were sealed by the Spirit and that applied to those Jews and gentiles in Acts 2:38-41, Acts 8:36-38, Acts 10:47-48 KJV God is not the author of confusion but man is..
1 Corinthians 1:17-18 King James Version (KJV)
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Every time y'all here baptized y'all think is talking about water dippy saved and going to heaven you got to get baptized in the blood of Jesus and you don't do that physical the Holy Spirit baptize you in Jesus when you put your faith in Jesus and you want to know the truth there's three baptism there's a spiritual baptism when you come to Christ do the water baptism and there's a baptism in the Holy Spirit
I did that and I've never entered a church of Christ organization..
Why?
It is a matter sematic. There is the church of believers and there is the local congregation of believers. No matter what you call yourself or call your beliefs, Church of God or Church of Christ or First Baptist of so & so, you are still a denomination, ie; a group of believers in Christ Jesus. As I recall there was the Church of Antioch so named after the city of Antioch, not to mention the seven Churches of Revelations. So, lets get real people - there is no such thing as a non-denominational church. No matter what town or city you may travel to you will always find a Church of Christ near by. An by the by, Christianity itself is a religion. To worship Jesus Christ is a religion. Religion, look it up... denomination, look it up.
There is a religious organization that calls itself nondenominational but its another so called church not found in the scriptures. Denomination is a section. Its religious division. Like chopping up something in pieces and calling each little piece something different. Is that what Christ prayed for? Is that what he wanted?
As believers in Jesus there is but one church. Even the congregation/Churches in the New testaments had different beliefs and (mis-)understandings of what a church/Christian should be like. There was also outside influences that tried to corrupt the gospels when Christianity was young. Hence, the Epistles of the Apostles. Is it any different today? This is why we work out our salvation with fear and trembling, seeking the truth from the Bible. I do agree with you...
James Kemp There background and the fact the church was in it's infantcy stage had a lot to do with their misunderstandings.
If you plant an apple seed, and apple tree will come up, if you plant a peach seed, a peach tree will come up, if you plant the seed of the Word of God as found in the New Testament, a New Testament Church will come up. That's why we don't add to God's Word or take away from God's Word. No where in the New Testament does it tell them to sing praises to God with an instrument of music like a piano or organ. That's adding to God's Word. The only instrument of music we have scriptural authority for is our vocal cords. (Eph. 5:19, Col 3:16) How can a man sing with the Spirit and understanding if he or she is busy worrying about what chord or key to play the instrument in? God wants all your heart not part of it when you worship. Jesus said in John 3 that those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth so its necessary that we not go beyond what is written in God's Word because to add to God's Word is adding our human opinions to God's Word.
Psalms 150:4
“Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.”
King James Version (KJV)
I attend a non-denominational church. it is organised by a group organization, but the church ultimately is self run, what are your opinions?
I disagree that COC isn't a denomination. It is the Cambellite Church. Alaxander Cambell claimed to have restored the church. Who made AC a apostle?? Such things as forbidding musical instruments is not scriptural and man made doctrine of the Cambellite church. Musical instruments are not authorized. Well who authorized the use of electricity to assist in worship?? I agree singing is from the heart and mind but using a piano in the background doesn't stop anyone from singing from the heart. This is denominational doctrine of the COC. Scripture does not forbid musical instruments in worship.
You say the Baptist just decided to do their own thing. Well what enzactly the the cambellites do?? They came up with their doctrine and put church of Christ on the door to claim theirs is only true church. Baptist only represents the people and their specific beliefs to clarify them against other groups. I think it is dishonest for church of Christ to not be honest about what they are....the cambellite church. If baptist take the sign down and replace it with a COC sign nothing changes. Baptist are Christians that belong to the body if Christ but need a specific name to differentiat themselves from other groups who they disagree. I also believe COC are Christians and in the body of Christ. I believe the followers of Jesus Christ are his CHURH. You make it as if Baptist started own religion and worshiped John. Baptist worship Jesus Christ!
Here's on for you.....when the disciples complained of others healing and casting Demond's in Christs name he told them to leave them alone. Those who aren't against me are with me. Are Baptist against Jesus Christ?
The founder of the COC, Alexander Cambell was also Baptised by a baptist preacher. The guy didn't even practice what he preached. That makes his following based on a lie
"Well who authorized the use of electricity to assist in worship?" So, is your argument that instruments "assist" you in worship? And how is electricity being offered by us to God? I don't understand this line of thinking at all. You act like the Campbells rose up one day and stopped all instruments and created their own church. That is not what happened. Instruments were ADDED hundreds of years after the church was established by Jesus. That is a fact. If the Campbells simply recognized that fact, why criticize them for it?
And another person who complains about the words "church of Christ." We don't use "church of Christ" the same way you do. There is only ONE church that Jesus built. It's His church, and we are the ones who are called out (Greek is ekklesia, the called out, English is church). The called out ones of Christ is what we are. If a Baptist can be a Christian, then why keep associating themselves with the word "Baptist" and not with Christ?? It's His church! There is no Baptist church in the Bible. And generally, what Baptists preach isn't found in the Bible either, so how can they be Christians when they teach something contrary to God's Word?
I've never read one word from what the Campbells wrote. Don't need to either, they didn't start or build a church, Jesus already did that 2000 years ago. If you want to be a member of HIS church, the scriptures tell us how to do so.
JohnnyRebKy Well your wrong! The church of Christ is not a denomination because we have no head office or board of directors or divisions.The head of our Church is Jesus Christ. Our Church was started at the time of Pentecost and has nothing to do with the Campbell movement in 1906.
@@soasuperant
Your decieved
You can be proved wrong real easy.
@@soasuperant
How? I didnt claim anything except that your decieved.
But ok then... prove me wrong.
I dont even know what the point is here?? I just ran across this vidio , and I dont know what the hey?? Just confusing? Maybe thier are other vidios to go with it. ??? Just trying to find vidios, talking about Jesus and the Gospel.. Not confusion. ???????
the Baptist doctrine is not mad made
Wow! Shove it? That is truly astonishing, seems he would either show you why you are wrong, change what he believes or at least study further.
@6153calme What an interesting non-response to my question. By the way your biblical knowledge is sorely lacking. The gospel was preached both in John the Baptist's ministry and during Jesus' ministry. After all didn't Jesus go about proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom of God? Did he not command all the Jews that they must repent and believe the Gospel? They weren't given the option I following the law or the gospel. You seriously need to read your Bible and not your CoC Sunday School charts.
Paul Day is no more than a fallen Christian that will answer to God in the end.
Guess u also don't know that some of those who obeyed John's baptism were lost, and knew nothing about the gospel Acts 19, so do u know what the gospel of the kingdom is? What did Jesus say the gospel of the kingdom was? Apparently his disciples did not know, & neither did John's. MT4:23;9:35;24:14;MK 1:14, after u read them all tell me what Jesus said the gospel of the kingdom was, bet u can't. Keep n mind u have something they did not.
Television is not in the bible but it is a name of a tool of teaching the bible.
Did Jesus publicly teach his death, burial, resurrection according to script. No he only told his disciples that & they did not understand. John preached repentance saying they should believe on the 1 after him, Acts19:1-5 which he did not quite get, nor his disciples Jhn3:23-. The first GOSPEL sermon was not preached until ACTS 2. Or do u not know what the gospel is 1COR15:1-4. I don't think u know what the gospel of the kingdom means, nor what John preached. Nor do u kno what John's job was.
why do u have argument among non catholic...? Evry non catholic fight for different doctrine.why? if u the pastors evangelist n others do like that then to whom the we the members of the church should go?
Furthermore, your comment on Johns disciples in Ephesus shows your ignorance of the whole story found there and subsequent Church History. There were a contengent of John's disciples who never joined Jesus. After John's death the remaining followers dispersed and became heretical as Acts 19 indicates. By this time, a particular group claiming allegiance to John was there. Notice too they knew NOTHING of the Holy Spirit. Also the apostles only received John's Baptism. Were they lost?
When IF gives this command n MK 16, the HS/w pwr had not been fun 2 the apostles they were only told wait at Jerusalem Acts 1. The plan of salvation was not givn until ACTS2 when Peter used the keys (MT 16) to open Way. B4 acts2 u nvr hear an apostle tell anyone how to be saved. The first command is Hear o Israel MK 12:29, ACTS2:22, w/o Faith it is impossible Heb 11:6, God winked com repent Acts17:30, w/mouth confess Rom 10:10, ACTS 8:35-37, baptized MK16, ACTS 2:3, 8:36, GAL 3:26-28, 1Pet 3:21
So the man on the cross
Wow. Such ignorance for someone who claims to be a part of a religious movement that claims to have the exclusive scoop on all things Biblical. So when Jesus went out proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom that message had zero content? All it was is just some prophecy of a supposed soon coming gospel? Maybe you should read Mark 1:15 where that content was given: To REPENT and BELIEVE! Did not John say He was the Lamb of God? Did not Jesus say He would be the new Serpent Staff of Moses?
If that AMEN thank u
Acts 2:38 never mentioned water... to what are those who called on the name of Jesus instructed to do? Repent (turning from) and being fully immersed into Jesus. "Baptist" have taught this since the the days of Jesus, because it's what Jesus taught.
G'day Mike,
John 3:5; 1 peter 3:21; Romans 6:4
Baptism literally translates to being immersed or submerged.
As your position would predicate, you are submerged in Christ, then what are you risen to? Out of christ?
The bible is very clear we are submerged in water.
“See, here is water! What prevents me from being baptized?” ACTS 8:36-39
Once you have accepted jesus then its obvious that you also called his name? Hey think deeply man.
Janith Libames How do you accept Jesus & please use scripture
That IF should read JC Jesus Christ
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Old Testament foreshadows the New Testament and the
New Testament fulfils the Old Testament. I bet you didn’t sea that coming
Hmm
Defence attorney says argumentative....
You must be saved before you get Baptize..first you call upon the the name of the Lord ( Jesus christ). Both of you men don't know SCRIPTURES...
Jesus says "He that believes AND is baptized shall be saved (Mark 16:16) NOT "He that believes is saved and is baptized." Also I Peter 3:21 says that baptism doth also now save us. We (coC) are not trusting in the water but trusting what God said happens in baptism ; Colossians 2:12 buried with Him in baptism (it is immersion in water since it is a burial) in which you also were raised with Him through faith in THE WORKING OF GOD, who raised Him from the dead. Once again God does the work in baptism we only obey Him in submitting to baptism; we are not trusting in ourselves by doing what He says. How can my obedience end up trusting in myself when God says to do it? I am counting on the operation of God to save me in baptism not there is power in water. It is God's power that saves when we do as He says and and are baptized INTO CHRIST and have PUT ON CHRIST in baptism; Galations 3:27. Can one be saved without being baptized into Christ? Baptism by itself does not save must also hear the word, believe; for faith to provide salvation, it must exceed mental acceptance: John 12:42-43; James 2:17-26. We believe that Jesus died, was buried and resurrected for our sins. Our trust in Jesus as "Lord" motivates obedience to His commands Acts 2:36-38, Hebrews 5:9 as well as many others listed above and the following: we must also confess that Jesus is the Son of God; (Read Acts 8:35-39 and see what needs to be done when Jesus is preached and especially note verse 37 to see the confession that needs to be said). Next one needs to repent (Acts 17:30-31). Repentance exceeds feelings of remorse and reveals itself in actions (Matthew 3:7-8). When the mind (example "heart") changes about sin, the penitent soul begins to "put off" the old actions of wickedness ((Colossians 3:5-10) and to "put on" the new behavious of a child of God (Colossians 3:12-14). When Jesus died on the cross He offered His blood for the sins of the world (John 19:34; I Peter 1:18-20, 2:21-25). For God to provide salvation, therefore, sinners must receive the blood of Jesus. Essentially, salvation requires a way that takes the sinner to the death of Jesus. The New Testament identifies this as baptism (Romans 6:3-6). The Christian faith for today only authorizes one baptism (Ephesians 4:5). This baptism requires water and involves immersion (Acts 8:36-38; Romans 6"4; Colossians 2:12, I Peter 3:20-21). New Testament baptism results in salvation (Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2:38, 22:16; I Peter 3:21). God has confined all spiritual blessings "in Christ" (Ephesians 1:3). According to the word of God, in addition to providing access to the death of Christ (example blood) of Jesus, baptism transports the obedient soul "INTO CHRIST" (Romans 6:3, Galations 3:26-27) where every spiritual blessing dwells. According to the Lord no disciple enters a relationship with the Godhead without being baptized (Matthew 28:18-20; cf. Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2:38. Let's end by saying that baptism is how we put on Christ (Galations 3:27), baptism is the way into Christ; Romans 6:3 and Galations 3:27 and baptism if for remission of sins; Acts 2:38 and Acts 22:16. Remember that today is the day of salvation.
First you must believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, then you call on Jesus to save you.. Baptism doesn't save you.. believing the Son of God, it's Grace and Mercy that saves us.. Baptism is a symbolic of your Faith.. John 3:16
1 John 5:13
Ephesians 2:8-9
Romans 10:13
Romans 5:8
Romans 3:23
Note that baptism comes after salvation; not before as you mentioned....Jesus, himself, said "He that believes AND is baptized shall be saved and he who does not believe shall be condemned; Mark 16:16. If one thinks they are saved before being baptized they are still in their sins and must be baptized for remission of sins; Acts 2:38. In baptism one contacts the death of Christ where the blood was shed; Romans 6:3 and note it is a burial Romans 6:4. Also read Colossians 2:12 and note who does the work in baptism (faith in the working of God). Also read Galations 3:26-27.
If Church of Christ is not denomination then what about the Baptist?
You think Baptist is denomination? 😂
SamPaw Diaries I think you know the answer to is Baptist a denomination?
By slaves in Virginia around 1700 ad, read your history people!!!!!!!!
I loath the negative diatribe of COC preachers...this one takes the cake!
accept, not except. If you're gonna try to act smart please learn the difference.
Robertson is NOT (as you say) obsessed with Southern Baptists...and for you to say that is very immature and disingenuous... and you know it. Robertson is guilty of nothing except reading the Scriptures to you *verbatim* and instead of accepting what can plainly see and hear...you choose instead to *attack the message* because you want to hold on to your false beliefs. Childish!
if baptism is required to be saved then how come Jesus never baptized any one and had others to baptize for Him?
Christ did not need to Baptize any. The Baptism of Acts 2:38 where one receives the end dwelling of the Holy Ghost did not start until after the death of Christ.
When Christ was crucified, He baptised us in His spirit. God sent us His one and only son to suffer with us so we can follow His spirit and be up with the Father in heaven.
Noah...by Faith build the Ark..he wasn't baptize.
Moses
All the old Testament profits didn't get Baptized...they believed they had Faith...
Linda, 1 Corinthians 10:1-2,
" Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;"
Amen brother!
All went through types of baptism...
You don't get baptized in water to get saved you get baptized in water because you are saved
Qhere isbthe passage that says that???
One false teacher exposing the mouth works for salvation of another false teacher. however, the church of christ guy wrecked the baptist guys world ...
Biblical Christianity is dead in Western Protestant Europe for this verseology. The fruit of this verseology is 85% agnostics and atheists and an Islamic invasion.
The Lutheran Bishops quoted Romans 13 to support Hitler and again the same to the communists. There are 7,957 verses all can be used to justify not loving God and your neighbor.
Martin Luther after his fall from supreme authority to Zwingli said, "Everyman who quotes scripture thinks himself a theologican and a doctor of the church. His proof is he ate the Holy Spirit, feathers and all". A bunch of toothpicks claiming to be the tree.
the host cannot respect the talker.
He always dont lets him speak.
And he is not talking Biblicall.
The Baptist religion is the one most closely to the Holy Bible. In the days we are living in.
What Jesus told us, that is what we have to do.
And Jesus talked about the Old Testament and the New one.
If Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is not in the center of your words, then you lie.
I was a Baptist for over 50 years and the Baptist Church preaches a false doctrine and was started by a man.
fallenSlave How is that true? They are not even in the Bible. They didn't start in Jerusalem after the first Pentecost after the resurrection, they were not spoken of by the Prophets, they teach false doctrine like calling on the Lord verbally to be saved, once saved always saved, instrumental music in worship, they were started in the 1600s, John Smythe started the organization but didn't shed his blood for the world and can't save the world. Please rethink your statement.
It’s only close when you misinterpreted scripture and ignore lots of it.
baptist but don't believed in baptism
if that's the best you can do to defend your false church, you are in a state of serious delusion indeed.
I’m baptist cause I believe the the Bible is GODS word from cover to cover and my salvation only comes from Jesus
what ever he ids talking about, I dont want any I am Baptist and saved and I would not sit through one of his surmons if he had a so called church
Very sad indeed
The self named "Church of Christ" is about the closets you can get to the "Catholic Church" without joining back in with it. The "CoC teaches "works for salvation" "but to him that worketh not but BELIEVETH on him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness".
Faith without works is dead
Sounds like Johnny has to read more of the Bible. Sounds like name-it-and-claim-it to me.
Oh yeah, debating over the Bible is never a good thing either.