James was amazing in this scene. I forgot I was watching a brilliant actor and was watching a real person living in the moment. My favorite scene of the finale by far.
Was it because it was going to be a struggle to survive and that farming was the way to start things out? He seemed depressed, delighted and scared, all at the same time. She (being the Cylon that she is) reassures him that everything's going to be alright.
@@KnowTrentTimoy He had spent his entire life trying to get off the farm and be recognized as someone other than he was. This scene takes him full circle back to his humble beginnings.
Most intense Sci-fi series EVER. Period. The cast, the CGI, the dialogues, the atmosphere, the battle scenes… oh my! I’m still rewatching episodes because they are so fracking amazing and timeless. So say we all!
I think when Baltar said he knows about farming and immediately breaks down, i think it reminded him of his home and his father, the life and person he can never get back.
@@krashd i just assumed he was crying because he is back to what he was trying to run away. He hated farming and looked down on it. That was my understanding.
@@myhandlehasbeenmishandled He would surely know that in this circumstance, what he would be doing, or at least attempting, could never 'just' be farming. New planet, new plants, different weather and climate, different pests, and less access to technology would make it as great a challenge as any he'd faced in his career.
@@myhandlehasbeenmishandled His need to escape his humble beginnings only to find himself returning to those humble beginnings in a certain way, has echoes of Pip's journey in Charles Dickens' Great Expectations. Pip even has a palindromic name, which is spelled the same forward and backward, reflecting the full circle of life.
Read somewhere him crying wasn't part of the script, his tears started flowing automatically as he said the lines because he'd been playing that character for a few years. Very touching if true; in fact, the crying does seem really authentic.
@@AngelEarth2011 Yeah, he cried because he tried to put on a positive face, but realised he actually had to go back to the stone age and this is terrible.
Instead of a reboot like is being discussed imagine if a new series revolved around humanity at the stage they were in caprica someone starts working on AI and the messengers are debating what to do because obviously they are not supposed to intervene anymore maybe more advanced forms of the centurions or humanoids they managed to create come to earth to prevent the cycle from restarting
@@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts Hollywood is nowhere near intelligent enough for that. It will be a reboot with all the characters race/gender swapped pushing modern politics, and the cylons will be lead by an evil orange robot..
Almost half a million views for a show defunct a decade ago… speaks volumes about the quality and the love of the fans. This and the expanse will stay in history as the best Sci-Fi shows ever.
That line... You know, I know about farming... that moment, just encapsulates how amazing this show really is. Threads sown up, emotion, strength, depth. It is such a rarity in today's TV.
That line is actually dumb and problematic, seeing as how agriculture didn’t exist on earth until 20,000 years ago. I love BSG, but they really frakked up trying to tie it into contemporary Earth at the end
@@TheGavrael disagree… it was more related to his past and his backstory being from Aerilon and him finding his humility. So … ya know… it’s not dumb :)
@@Britwithadrone I get the callback. It’s poetic and a great line for his character. Unfortunately, it goes against the premise of the finale. Could have been great writing if only this wasn’t our Earth, instead it creates an anachronistic error seemingly intentionally
@@TheGavrael …. Ok mate. I don’t really care about that - I care about his character arc. I mean yes you are right … but for me that’s not my take away. It doesn’t make it dumb
@Gav.... We don't really know anything about agricultural on this planet. Gobekli Temple... its self shows and demonstrates that very fact. No one knows its all theory. The way the writers chose to share that with us was beautiful and epic
The end was good. Parts getting there were stupid. By their own admission, they made it up as they went. There should have been a plan for the series. For example, Starbuck and the prior earth was dumb.
The end was good. Parts getting there were stupid. By their own admission, they made it up as they went. There should have been a plan for the series. For example, Starbuck and the prior earth was dumb.
This was one of the best series I've ever watched. And I've seen him more than once. Dialogues, properly graduated tension, great music, great effects, perfect timing. In my opinion, a better series has not yet emerged, with a better idea and dramatic processing throughout the series.I would like him to continue, but I'm worried that it can reach such a high-pitched bar.
Any non-human sentience will not possess the human traits of anger, hate and drive to war. It is that most human quality of arrogance to assume otherwise.
@@Psilocybin77 If they were originally programed by a human sentience, then they mostly likely would. Also, even without that, have you heard of emergent behavior?
@@Psilocybin77 First, that is a logical fallacy since you have no proof to back your statement. That is your opinion, not fact. Also, since a human will be the person who originally programs the A.I., the human traits could be placed in there, even if accidentally.
Sat on the edge of my seat waiting for these episodes on that 5 year run... I've watched the entire series two more times streaming... At 56 now I have to say it's my favorite TV series to date, just edging out Breaking Bad...
I'm the same (at 51). BSG is my favorite and BB is a close 2nd. I'm considering rewatching again now that the series is on Peacock. Much more convenient than changing out the BluRay discs :)
1:49 These actors -- especially him in this precise moment wherein she's is his emotional safety for capturing his vulnerability, probably the only person he could have ever recaptured his full humanity in being witnessed by her owning it honestly -- just nailed these roles! Anytime I rewatch it's obvious why they were so compatible. Caprica Six was born in and survived an absolutely artificial world and was then sent on a mission to master a task (to seduce a human man in order to gain access to the defence mainframe -- really, without a "teacher" how is a machine supposed to be expected to accomplish that?) that should have been impossible for her. This is reflected in how when she resurrects, the only cylons convey the unexpected scale of her success to her. And then there's Baltar, who came from a wretched beginning and set himself forth on a parallel task to infiltrate the upper echelons of society which should have been just as impossible for him, considering the lack of guidance he also would have had to work with in his humble beginnings. He must have already had a preconceived notion of what an ideal woman for him, to make all that struggle in isolation worth it, and then Six came along, inadvertently evolved herself into Caprica Six, and it took this many seasons for him to learn that the hard work he had set himself to had rewarded him (i.e. with a life with the kind of amazing woman he had always wanted and dreamed of, of young boys-becoming-men are apt to do). Ironically, his supremely Earthly (Natural) knowledge in flux with her supremely Artificial (UnEarthly) knowledge made for a perfectly chaotic-in-the-beginning yet ultimately stabilizing match in the context of a "complicated system" running on repeat. No wonder even though his roots gave him a womanizing edge, in the long-run he learned to use even those skills in tender, caring and healing ways through knowing her (e.g. the tortured Six on Pegasus).
What I loved about this show was how much it leaned into the source material of the original series and the annuals that came with it. Like the search for water, or Starbuck being marooned on a desert planet with only a Cylon for company. Dropping the hokey aliens and "planet of the week" episodes to largely focus on the struggle for life within the fleet made it so much more real and claustrophobic.
I can remember the original Battlestar Galactica. when I heard they had made a remake i was like OMG i hope they don't screw it up.. Well they most certainly didn't, I love this version more then the original..
What's unnerving about the ending montage, is that those robots are primitive compared to what's being rolled out today. There are firms now producing prototype humanoid robots capable of low-level parkour, and quadrapeds that look like something out of Half-Life 2.
At this point, if Gaius and the Numbers were actually here, they'd have things like the Mass Effect games, tech journals, and political coverage as they idly awaited our rolling the bones or boning the rolls of mathematical probability. Or Fallout's synths, come to that... "In the Post-Nuclear wasteland, whether you live or die could depend on the flip of a coin..." (I'd call Heads... Tails is CYA and that simply doesn't work forever!)
It did have a few flaws (primarily on archaeological and anthropological issues), but thematically it landed perfectly and I will never stop defending it.
@Floyd1504 their war with the cylones is like our vietman and Afghanistan war but we pulled out in both wars. Too bad we couldnt learn what they learned, but their leadership was more focused than ours.
@@johnmcternan4157 I doubt most any of the viewing audience realized. They wouldn't have known what he looked like, even the bigger fans. I didn't know that was him until I saw commentary underneath the third act of the Portlandia skit that identified him in _that_. I'd say for most, it would only be an Easter egg upon a second watch of the series.
"I could get my head cut off". Nice reference to the fate of the original Baltar (John Colicos). The scene of his decapitation was removed from the version seen on TV and he was just taken away by centurions to be executed
I have read before that the scene was cut, but I swear I saw the scene as a child in 1978 or so (I was 10) and it disturbing me (still worthwhile to experience). As an adult I recognized the significance of this line immediately.
@@DrychronRed , it's the movie version that shows his head about to be cut. The TV version you hear "stop", the video rewinds to show the sword moving away, and the Supreme Leader says they may have another use for him.
@@DrychronRed , I'm sure you saw both. I had the original movie on VHS, and I didn't realize how much the pilot version had way more footage. Buck Rogers was the same way.
Baltar is an excellent example of flawed characters being the most interesting. The story was greatly enhanced by his presence, and he was just the obvious example among many. Some large production houses could learn from this. Seeing him redeemed was also great. The gent who portrayed him did a great job, as did his colleagues.
@@MostlyPennyCat What helped clear Baltar at his trial was Lee Adama testifying that if it was up to him he would have let the people on New Caprica be killed by the Cylons instead of sacrificing the Pegasus to save them. It showed even good people can do evil things in certain circumstances.
that show gave me chills a lot of times, and that ending is the kind of ending we deserve, everytime i finish this awesome show i'm always feeling empty because they developped that universe too well to think that we got one of the most simple and satisfying ending, also the flashbacks we got from the episode can make us to regret that ending, but like i said, we deserved that ending, a peaceful ending for a show that gave us both a lot of good and bad memories.
1:06 Vast majority of, even fans, did not realize that THIS is the most important line in the entire show. The whole superficially perceived plot revolves around Gaïus Baltar, being the culprit for humanity's near extinction, and he did that because of lust, a sin. When you understand this line, it is not about destruction caused by sin anymore, it becomes rebirth caused by love. This is the major line that reveals, if needed be, the deep spiritual level of BSG.
It has NOT held up well. Look how superior AVATAR'S effects are and how superior the Transformers movies are for showing CGI robots than the Cylons in this. Its dated.
Very cool ending. The whole series was so well thought out, written, and acted. Loved it - the whole part with a creator behind it all moving the various parts. Did not see the coming into play - have to rewatch this series soon.
Still keep coming back to this show every couple of years. Just a great show. So well done. So much intensity and emotion. Really one of the best sci-fi series of all time, even with the disruption of the writers strike and such. Just pure greatness.
Originally I was very cold to this remake/reboot having grown up watching the original. However I watched it and I thought it was very well done. And you're right, the ending is perfect!
I wouldn't hate if there was a BSG that had more of the tone of the original series. I'd hope it's like Batman, where going 'dark and gritty' doesn't completely preclude having something more fun and adventurous too. It also means stuff doesn't have to just sit in its shadow.
It's hard to realize this show started 17 years ago and ended 12 years ago. This was a hit of a remake, it truly was. I would like to say that this was human drama with science fiction and not the other way around. I have to go and rewatch this from the beginning during Christmas break. Seeing this last ending bring back emotions that I haven't felt since that ending was first shown. The Humans of Earth and this earth is an amalgamation of humanoids that originally lived on the planet and humanoids from another part of the galaxy along with cybernetic biological entities. You couldn't make this up. And 150,000 years later, wow. You know I felt so sad with Giaus Baltar (the real one and real 6). He tried for years and decades to get away from his farming heritage and end it all doing exactly what he tried to get away from. You saw all the emotions hitting him and you see him and 6 walk into the African forest never to be seen again. You know why everyone was sad, it was the fact that we saw the end the end of them as a people and the start of them becoming something else and they realized it. Hell Adama instead of staying with his son was tired and wanted that one last thing to be with his woman Roslyn and live out his dream.
@@techtonikshyft Babylon 5 relied way too much on cartoonish CGI but all I really care about is STORY and CHARACTERS and Babylon 5 dominated in that area, more so than any version of BSG.
Becouse Firefly never get an ending and Stargate got cut off. Unironically, what I really liked in BSG that is was only 4 seasons. No unnecessary fillers, no, long tail. Strong and well-paced entirely.
@@Tilnaor Something I passionately HATE is when a show has a specific "quest" or "goal" one or more characters is trying to achieve and the show ends without ever resolving it. The 1950s tv show THE FUGITIVE did end with him being exonerated. Star Trek Voyager DID end with the Voyager making it back to Earth but if a show has a specific GOAL then if funding is running low or for some other reason they have a limited number of episodes YOU MIGHT AS WELL ACHIEVE THAT GOAL. The Original Battlestar Galactica was like a book that ended halfway through with no explanation and then the awful Galactica 1980 which was totally inferior to the real show.
I want to see what happens to them afterwards. How Gaius comes along with his farming, how Lee does with his exploring etc. How they survive with no technology
This is probably the only time when I liked a reboot television series over its original. Don't get me wrong, I loved the original show from the 1970s but, the producers of the modern version really captured something special. My only real criticism is that I felt this show could have and should have had at least two more seasons. The show never really took a dip in the ratings and it seemed like they were trying to rush its end. Still, I feel that they found a very dramatic and cohesive way to bring it to its conclusion.
@@archer9338 that's not really what the producers claim. They stated that they wanted the show to go out on top end for it not to get old. To that end, they wrapped it up early.
@@archer9338 in fact, Ron Moore was not only the producer he was the lead writer of the show and I saw the interview which I have on DVD with him stating that. Honestly, I thought it was really a dopey reason for ending a show. Lol
Met most of the cast at Pensacon in 2019 before the plague. Really great group of people! It was very interesting to hear their insights on the show. Many of them admitted to not liking the initial divine direction of the plot, but they all agreed that the ending was solid. I understand that we may be getting another run at BSG again; I would be excited to see a fresh take.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 well, it’s a beloved and cherished show. That means it’s due for a major woke overhaul. It teaches nothing about gender fluidity, pride, environmentalism, collective rights, or anti-racism. Gotta make a new one and put all that into it.
@mitchellmelkin4078 I totally agree - there's no way they could improve on it and, as inglebear84 says above, we'd most likely get a load of woke garbage.
@@inglebear84 Nice toxic bandwagoning there. Pretty sure BSG had elements of a lot of that and it certainly was very much a show of its political era, it's only fitting a new show would be too. A new show would almost certainly explore the dangers of authoritarianism, division and hatred. BSG's creator said as much at an event where your Orange Dictator was, let's say, less than appreciated. You do realize BSG's cast and staff were and are largely progressives? Should be evident from watching the show, they literally throw away their technology to go live in the woods with the tribes in the clip above, it doesn't get more environmentalism than that.
I have Never loved a show more. I miss watching it for the first time. Maybe in 150.000 years there will be a new me on a new world watching it for the first time again.
I LOVED this twist at the end...Its even more relevant now with all this AI stuff kicking into high gear. On thing that boggles my mind is, Baltar was NOT a cylon...how could he still be around 150,000 years later
well he wasn't one back then but this current one we see is. Just like 6 isn't the same one as the one from the past. Same bodies but different ones of course. These current 2 might not even have the memories of the originals or the ones from the past. They knew about the originals child, but that might just be outside observer knowledge, not any actual knowledge of living there 150,000 years ago. They just created a cylon that looked like Baltar for some reason.
Loved this ending, even though we're still not sure who/what Head!Six or Head!Baltar are. Ironically, the ending is even more relevant today, more than ever....
Till this day by far my favorite SciFi series. Not sure if anything this unique will ever be made. It's in a league of is own. I loved all the main characters so much. I just like rewachting the whole series from time to time..
How many other sci fi series and books have you read? BSG for me is very well filmed but the overall story is an above average but nowhere near elite story telling of someone like Asimov with Foundation and the Robot Series, EE Doc Smith with the Lensman Series or Weber with the Safehold and Honor Harrington Series. And this does not even cover Babylon 5 or various episodes within the Star Trek Universe like City on the Edge of Forever. I would even rate Stargate roughly at the same level as BSG.
@@HVG67 Your opinion is not the only opinion. I have a different take; when I hear sweeping statements about it's in a league of its own, its unique that's when I wonder how much of the sci fi landscape you have tasted. There is some truly fabulous sci fi available either in series, movies or books.
@@psu2dcu Watched many Sci fi shows from Star Trek, Bablylon 5, Lost in Space, V, Star wars, and this show is definitely a league of its own, like Henk Van de Goor said. So i agree with him.
@@justcallmebrian793 Star Wars is sci fantasy not sci fi. V is a terrible drama. Lost in Space on TV was more of a kids show, the remake was good but not great. ST and B5 are on a totally different level of thought provoking story telling. For me BSG is a B for story telling while the acting and special effects were an A-. Again, not saying is isn't good just that in the wider world of sci fi especially in book form much better stories.
Anyone in Hollywood who wants to do a reboot can point to this show as a shining example of how to reboot right. This show was far better than the original.
The only thing that bugs me here is Hera's remains being labeled as "the remains of a young woman", found along her father and mother, implying something really bad happened, kindda wished theirs had been long and happy lives. By contrast Admiral Adama probably lived way many more years, with all the dignified peace the man who fought the greatest battles across the longest journey deserved... yet completely alone. I guess the whole thing was meant to be bittersweet, offering no apology in that regard... I fracking loved it still.
they don't say she was buried with her father and mother, head six says she lived in tanzania 150000 years ago and gaius says that she lived there with her parents.
Nice cameo by Ronald D. Moore (reading the magazine). Now onto the selecting of Jimi Hendrix "All along the Watchtower" for the ending 1. The song starts in the middle of a conversation "there must be some kind of way out of here...." is a prototypical escape 2. Joker and the thief quintessential historical allegories. Joker wears the mask (cylons), the thief (humans) want to claim immortality or Godly presence making a sentient being that mimics, obeys, and amuses them. 3. Both the joker and thief are representation of being outsiders from the norm, BSG arriving as visitors to Earth. 4. "The Princes" (Gods of Kobol), kept the view, from a great distance from a time and place in the past. 5. "While all the women came and went" -multiples of Kara Thrace "Deus Ex Machina" with power saving a seemingly hopeless situation arrived, departed, resurrected in the plot. Unlikely as savior to improbable events bringing order out of chaos. 6. "Barefoot servants", The unrealized cylons, the Final Five do not have model numbers born through reproduction, not built. 7. "Wildcat begins to howl", represents powers of untamed nature 8. Both the joker and thief approach towards the "watch tower" (Gods) representing an impending confrontation. And then the last line of the song strengthens this suggestion with imagery of a furious storm starting to build. 9."The wind began to howl", the use of nuclear weapons 10. Last lyric repeats......."All along the Watchtower" fading out.......indicating the cyclical plot.
It's funny how we managed to find Hera's fossilized remains, but not a sign of any synthetic technological item they used. Ceramics, Titanium, and Glass last nearly forever.
OK, Not to be putting a tinfoil hat on, but there are many things that archeology in the real world can't explain satisfactorily and they gloss over with a theory. What makes you think the people of this world would be any different? The simplest and easiest explanation would be the site was contaminated at some point in the past. Just look up the history of the Piltdown Man to see how someone with an agenda can interpret the facts.
Yeah, they thought life on New Caprica was hard, living on Earth with no lasting tools or structures or art and making each subsequent generation dumber is going to be hell. Everyone’s just going to have to play caveman and hunt and gather for their food.
@@TheGavrael It seems to me they would not regress that far. As long as they remained in an organized community, there is ample time to use written language to record important information, techniques and processes particularly with basic farming, health, sanitation, water collection, basic tool and industrial production and science equivalent to beginnings of steam powered economy. It would not make sense to me they would regress back to a Caveman level.
@@psu2dcu they have to since earliest evidence of agriculture didn’t emerge until 20,000 BC. Which gives them 130,000 years from when they land to essentially obliterate any technology and erase language and structures and everything from the archaeological record. That’s the problem making it take place in our earth’s past. You have to conform to what we have as evidence. This is a smart sci-if show, not a fantasy fanfic, which makes the choice for our earth all the more baffling
well, more accurately, 6 was a representation of angels, and gauis was a representation of demons, or more plainly good and bad, right and wrong, the two birds who wisper in each of our ears, etc.......
@@specter86fl Mind explaining why he almost threatening said he doesn't like being called that and then said how silly of me? Whats this? Like they know God personally? Since when?
Excellent ending. Perfect. Didn't seem like it when I first watched. But after repeated viewing, I think this is the perfect ending. Profound. "All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again". The last bit about the law of averages in a complex system. Can't see how this can be topped.
The ending of this show actually showed that, in this universe, the Colonials learned absolutely nothing in response to their mistakes. They instead started the cycle all over again, allowing everything they learned through blood, genocide, and tears to be forgotten once again.
Future generations would've made their own choices whether they kept their technology or not, all they could do was what was right for them in the moment.
I loved how they inferred that humans had Aphantasia, the inability to internally visualize, and cylons had life like and networked internal visualization. Then you see this ending and realized the two mated, and most people have various degrees of internal visualization.
My Phantasia is exhausting. I have Narcolepsy. To dream saps me so much that it is like, when I wake-up, I hadn't slept for the most part. y dreams are like another life, I have memories of previous dreams when in a later dream.
@@Ryan_Christopher I had a similar experience in my early twenties. I went to bed (in real life), woke up (in a dream), had a very good relationship with a girl, including moving in with her, went to bed (in the dream), work up (back in real life). Now, thirty plus years later, even though I academically know that it was a dream, I still have an emotional hole left by this completely imaginary girl who never existed.
@@diogenesesenna9323 LOL none of my “dream girls” ever put-out. They can stay cut-off as far as I am concerned. I’m more afraid of moving back into this crappy dream apartment that I signed a lease on. I want to break the lease but the paperwork keeps disappearing.
Big fan of BSG and The Expanse. Both are epic and deserve repeat viewing... Another show, B5 is seriously dated today so you have to put your low budget filters on, but it's still a worthy watch for the great characters and story arcs. In fact just finished an entire run through last autumn. Along with Firefly, these 4 shows epitomise what Sci Fi can be when it's treated with care and respect. Will be watching through the whole of BSG again this year for sure.
Stargate fans recognize this place very well. This is Tolana! (Yeah, I know, it is a university campus in Brazil, or something, but I find it interesting nonetheless)
Might be time to watch this series again. I have it on DVD, but also just purchased it on BluRay as well. It has a few episodes that aren’t written great, but overall it’s the best space opera series ever made.
I've seen it 4x. Only other series I've hit that many times is Breaking Bad. You are right - it's not without its weaker points, but I never found they weighed the series down for long.
Loved the ending. The series was so well written compared to others at that time. Kudos to the authors that they knew when enough is enough. Hell of a series, always in my heart. ❤️ (and my cupboard, full DVD box collection)
A scifi that had some class about it, where the story didn't take a distant second place to explosions and general eye candy.... Can't wait for the next instalment in the universe because 99% of the scifi being vomited up on the screen just doesn't cut it.
Its a rare, rare experience, to be watching a TV show, as it airs, and knowing that its its a genuine classic. I think only BSG and Breaking BAd have gave me that feeling, sure, other shows are great, but to be only 4 or 5 seasons longs, and stick the landing so superbly.... its just....well, amazing. The last montage scene or real world robotics..... just look at how much firther robotics and AI is now, a mre decade (sish) after the show ..... Scary....?
"I know about farming."
That line breaks my heart every single time I see this scene.
James was amazing in this scene. I forgot I was watching a brilliant actor and was watching a real person living in the moment. My favorite scene of the finale by far.
Was it because it was going to be a struggle to survive and that farming was the way to start things out? He seemed depressed, delighted and scared, all at the same time. She (being the Cylon that she is) reassures him that everything's going to be alright.
@@KnowTrentTimoy He had spent his entire life trying to get off the farm and be recognized as someone other than he was. This scene takes him full circle back to his humble beginnings.
@@ered203 Ahhhh....ok. I understand now. Thank you 👍
All it took to finally humble Gaius Baltar was the near extinction of humanity and the discovery of a new home.
The whole series was basically a lesson to prove that "the more things change, the more they stay the same".
People try to combat the cycle that ironically guarantees the future of our species
Or the cyclicality of history.
Well that's because in this case they destroyed all records of what happened, its real easy to repeat history when you don't know what to avoid.
Lol -- Snake Pliskin is actually reincarnated Saul 😅
“All of this has happened before”
This ending is aging like fine wine. Perfect.
Most intense Sci-fi series EVER. Period. The cast, the CGI, the dialogues, the atmosphere, the battle scenes… oh my! I’m still rewatching episodes because they are so fracking amazing and timeless. So say we all!
Don't forget the music...those drums!!
TNG>BSG
So say we all.
So Say We All
second to Babylon 5
I think when Baltar said he knows about farming and immediately breaks down, i think it reminded him of his home and his father, the life and person he can never get back.
@@krashd i just assumed he was crying because he is back to what he was trying to run away. He hated farming and looked down on it. That was my understanding.
@@myhandlehasbeenmishandled He would surely know that in this circumstance, what he would be doing, or at least attempting, could never 'just' be farming. New planet, new plants, different weather and climate, different pests, and less access to technology would make it as great a challenge as any he'd faced in his career.
@@myhandlehasbeenmishandled His need to escape his humble beginnings only to find himself returning to those humble beginnings in a certain way, has echoes of Pip's journey in Charles Dickens' Great Expectations. Pip even has a palindromic name, which is spelled the same forward and backward, reflecting the full circle of life.
Read somewhere him crying wasn't part of the script, his tears started flowing automatically as he said the lines because he'd been playing that character for a few years. Very touching if true; in fact, the crying does seem really authentic.
@@AngelEarth2011 Yeah, he cried because he tried to put on a positive face, but realised he actually had to go back to the stone age and this is terrible.
Loved this show. The tribal drumbeats during the space dogfights, the weird religious themes, the interpersonal drama. All of it was so good.
Those religious themes were less weird than a lot of real religions on this planet...
There's a lot of weird religious stuff in the original BSG too, so it's not completely out of left field.
Gaius Baltar sounds like Balthazar. a demon.
@@kyorin6526😊
i thought the religious stuff was a little heavy handed
I Fucking LOVED this ending. Baltars redemption, and Adama with Roslin. Then the future, on the edge of beginning another loop….
Instead of a reboot like is being discussed imagine if a new series revolved around humanity at the stage they were in caprica someone starts working on AI and the messengers are debating what to do because obviously they are not supposed to intervene anymore maybe more advanced forms of the centurions or humanoids they managed to create come to earth to prevent the cycle from restarting
@@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts duuuuuuuude. Yes!!
@@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts Hollywood is nowhere near intelligent enough for that. It will be a reboot with all the characters race/gender swapped pushing modern politics, and the cylons will be lead by an evil orange robot..
Almost half a million views for a show defunct a decade ago… speaks volumes about the quality and the love of the fans.
This and the expanse will stay in history as the best Sci-Fi shows ever.
Next to Firefly that is
@@aaronthomson7640 Babylon 5
The Expanse was good but wasn’t great like BSG.
Donʻt forget Stargate.
Never got into The Expanse unfortunately but BSG will always be one of my top series.
That line... You know, I know about farming... that moment, just encapsulates how amazing this show really is. Threads sown up, emotion, strength, depth. It is such a rarity in today's TV.
That line is actually dumb and problematic, seeing as how agriculture didn’t exist on earth until 20,000 years ago. I love BSG, but they really frakked up trying to tie it into contemporary Earth at the end
@@TheGavrael disagree… it was more related to his past and his backstory being from Aerilon and him finding his humility. So … ya know… it’s not dumb :)
@@Britwithadrone I get the callback. It’s poetic and a great line for his character. Unfortunately, it goes against the premise of the finale. Could have been great writing if only this wasn’t our Earth, instead it creates an anachronistic error seemingly intentionally
@@TheGavrael …. Ok mate. I don’t really care about that - I care about his character arc. I mean yes you are right … but for me that’s not my take away. It doesn’t make it dumb
@Gav....
We don't really know anything about agricultural on this planet. Gobekli Temple... its self shows and demonstrates that very fact. No one knows its all theory. The way the writers chose to share that with us was beautiful and epic
I don't care what they say... I love the finale!
SO SAY WE ALL.
The end was good. Parts getting there were stupid. By their own admission, they made it up as they went. There should have been a plan for the series. For example, Starbuck and the prior earth was dumb.
The end was good. Parts getting there were stupid. By their own admission, they made it up as they went. There should have been a plan for the series. For example, Starbuck and the prior earth was dumb.
So did I.
@@tpl608 Yer great show but shame about the need to resort to magic/god elements..clearly because as you said they were just winging it
This was one of the best series I've ever watched. And I've seen him more than once. Dialogues, properly graduated tension, great music, great effects, perfect timing. In my opinion, a better series has not yet emerged, with a better idea and dramatic processing throughout the series.I would like him to continue, but I'm worried that it can reach such a high-pitched bar.
The Expanse is pretty good...
You must not have watched much television. Firefly was much better!
One of the best shows i've ever watched, and the only one I genuinely wish I could watch again from the beginning without knowing anything about it.
I've haven't watched sense it went off the air so Im hoping the time will do a little of that for me.
Gives me an idea for a product that wipes selective memories...
@@soopahsoopah You could call it "Lacuna."
It'd be a smash.
Changed Sci-fi forever
Some of the most intense episodes barely contained a sci-fi element (Gaius Baltar trial etc) and were still fantastic to watch.
That was perhaps the best series ever on TV. I have all the DVDs of all 4 seasons. It's cool to watch them over and over again!
I understand. I’ve got the DVD’s also. Two Christmases ago, got the whole season on Apple streaming as well. It was worth it!
Thought it was more than 4 seasons.
@Douglas Pantera 5 seasons... First released 1978.
I got the entire show on Blu Ray
I'm about to start my 9th time re-watching this incredible series.
Great ending. With modern A.I., hits even harder now in 2023.
Was thinking the same thing
Any non-human sentience will not possess the human traits of anger, hate and drive to war. It is that most human quality of arrogance to assume otherwise.
@@Psilocybin77 If they were originally programed by a human sentience, then they mostly likely would. Also, even without that, have you heard of emergent behavior?
@@Psilocybin77 First, that is a logical fallacy since you have no proof to back your statement. That is your opinion, not fact.
Also, since a human will be the person who originally programs the A.I., the human traits could be placed in there, even if accidentally.
Modern AI is nowhere close to being self-aware
Sat on the edge of my seat waiting for these episodes on that 5 year run... I've watched the entire series two more times streaming... At 56 now I have to say it's my favorite TV series to date, just edging out Breaking Bad...
I'm the same (at 51). BSG is my favorite and BB is a close 2nd. I'm considering rewatching again now that the series is on Peacock. Much more convenient than changing out the BluRay discs :)
Silly messed up plot goes everywhere and nowhere. The last season ate its own tail. Haven’t watched it since original air date. Same with LOST
1:49 These actors -- especially him in this precise moment wherein she's is his emotional safety for capturing his vulnerability, probably the only person he could have ever recaptured his full humanity in being witnessed by her owning it honestly -- just nailed these roles! Anytime I rewatch it's obvious why they were so compatible. Caprica Six was born in and survived an absolutely artificial world and was then sent on a mission to master a task (to seduce a human man in order to gain access to the defence mainframe -- really, without a "teacher" how is a machine supposed to be expected to accomplish that?) that should have been impossible for her. This is reflected in how when she resurrects, the only cylons convey the unexpected scale of her success to her. And then there's Baltar, who came from a wretched beginning and set himself forth on a parallel task to infiltrate the upper echelons of society which should have been just as impossible for him, considering the lack of guidance he also would have had to work with in his humble beginnings. He must have already had a preconceived notion of what an ideal woman for him, to make all that struggle in isolation worth it, and then Six came along, inadvertently evolved herself into Caprica Six, and it took this many seasons for him to learn that the hard work he had set himself to had rewarded him (i.e. with a life with the kind of amazing woman he had always wanted and dreamed of, of young boys-becoming-men are apt to do). Ironically, his supremely Earthly (Natural) knowledge in flux with her supremely Artificial (UnEarthly) knowledge made for a perfectly chaotic-in-the-beginning yet ultimately stabilizing match in the context of a "complicated system" running on repeat. No wonder even though his roots gave him a womanizing edge, in the long-run he learned to use even those skills in tender, caring and healing ways through knowing her (e.g. the tortured Six on Pegasus).
What I loved about this show was how much it leaned into the source material of the original series and the annuals that came with it. Like the search for water, or Starbuck being marooned on a desert planet with only a Cylon for company. Dropping the hokey aliens and "planet of the week" episodes to largely focus on the struggle for life within the fleet made it so much more real and claustrophobic.
Edward James Olmos had a “no rubber faced aliens rule” where he said “Adama would have a heart attack and die” so he would leave the show lmao legend
His comment about farming makes me cry every single time. Such an amazing performance.
One of the few series whose ending was worthy of what came before. A classic.
I can remember the original Battlestar Galactica. when I heard they had made a remake i was like OMG i hope they don't screw it up.. Well they most certainly didn't, I love this version more then the original..
It certainly handled the basic premise better.
To be fair, the original was cancelled way too early for a fully flushed out story.
They tried with Galactica 1980. I think what killed the original was everyone was everybody complaining it was a poor rip off Star Wars.
What's unnerving about the ending montage, is that those robots are primitive compared to what's being rolled out today. There are firms now producing prototype humanoid robots capable of low-level parkour, and quadrapeds that look like something out of Half-Life 2.
At this point, if Gaius and the Numbers were actually here, they'd have things like the Mass Effect games, tech journals, and political coverage as they idly awaited our rolling the bones or boning the rolls of mathematical probability. Or Fallout's synths, come to that... "In the Post-Nuclear wasteland, whether you live or die could depend on the flip of a coin..." (I'd call Heads... Tails is CYA and that simply doesn't work forever!)
@@tranz2deep And how much longer before we have "I,Robot" or "Detroit Become Human" level AI?
@@darthroden Estimates range from 2050 to 2100.
Even more amazing is the robot Tesla demonstrated. Moved like it was a human in a robot suit, it did.
*ChatGPT has entered the chat*
I enjoyed this ending and the twist was mind blowing, I wish they did a series on the original Earth or a series of novels on it.
Revisiting the series. Better than I remembered. Shocked because so many are rewatching BSG in this moment
Every time that song 🎧 comes
Up on the radio 📻, since this show.
I get shivers 🔥🥃
Some people may not agree but I think this was the perfect ending to this series.
It did have a few flaws (primarily on archaeological and anthropological issues), but thematically it landed perfectly and I will never stop defending it.
@Floyd1504 their war with the cylones is like our vietman and Afghanistan war but we pulled out in both wars. Too bad we couldnt learn what they learned, but their leadership was more focused than ours.
At the time I did not like this ending, but years later when Game of Thrones ended, I started to appreciate this ending more.
I agree with you. I don't understand why so many fans were griping about it.
It's grown on me over the years.
Ronald D. Moore slipping himself into this scene was clever.
Together with a Cylon mother and a Human father...
It was egomaniacal, as self-insertion always is.
He actually regrets doing it, saying it was way too obvious.
@@johnmcternan4157 I doubt most any of the viewing audience realized. They wouldn't have known what he looked like, even the bigger fans. I didn't know that was him until I saw commentary underneath the third act of the Portlandia skit that identified him in _that_.
I'd say for most, it would only be an Easter egg upon a second watch of the series.
"I could get my head cut off". Nice reference to the fate of the original Baltar (John Colicos). The scene of his decapitation was removed from the version seen on TV and he was just taken away by centurions to be executed
Absolutely!!!!
I have read before that the scene was cut, but I swear I saw the scene as a child in 1978 or so (I was 10) and it disturbing me (still worthwhile to experience). As an adult I recognized the significance of this line immediately.
@@DrychronRed , it's the movie version that shows his head about to be cut. The TV version you hear "stop", the video rewinds to show the sword moving away, and the Supreme Leader says they may have another use for him.
@@KILRtv Ok!!! Im sure you're right! Thanks for the input, I saw the movie apparently. Maybe I saw both? I certainly watched the tv show.
@@DrychronRed , I'm sure you saw both. I had the original movie on VHS, and I didn't realize how much the pilot version had way more footage. Buck Rogers was the same way.
This Fing show the actors the music.... its just too good. It never stops being good.
A tear comes to my eye every time I see this... I hope to end up on my own cliff watching the sun rise some day, job done.
Indeed!!
"I know about farming" gets me every time.
Even Baltar and the cylons are redeemed at the end. Love it.
I love the fact that Adama addresses Baltar as "doctor" at the end.
Baltar is an excellent example of flawed characters being the most interesting. The story was greatly enhanced by his presence, and he was just the obvious example among many. Some large production houses could learn from this. Seeing him redeemed was also great. The gent who portrayed him did a great job, as did his colleagues.
Which is by the way, VERY out of character for the show.
I'm not sure you can really redeem genocide? On an unimaginable scale too.
Not to mention, how many biospheres did they destroy? 13?
@@MostlyPennyCat What helped clear Baltar at his trial was Lee Adama testifying that if it was up to him he would have let the people on New Caprica be killed by the Cylons instead of sacrificing the Pegasus to save them. It showed even good people can do evil things in certain circumstances.
that show gave me chills a lot of times, and that ending is the kind of ending we deserve, everytime i finish this awesome show i'm always feeling empty because they developped that universe too well to think that we got one of the most simple and satisfying ending, also the flashbacks we got from the episode can make us to regret that ending, but like i said, we deserved that ending, a peaceful ending for a show that gave us both a lot of good and bad memories.
you know that it's likely that they all died a few years after settling, as seen with Hera's fossil?
I wouldn't call that a happy ending.
1:06 Vast majority of, even fans, did not realize that THIS is the most important line in the entire show.
The whole superficially perceived plot revolves around Gaïus Baltar, being the culprit for humanity's near extinction, and he did that because of lust, a sin.
When you understand this line, it is not about destruction caused by sin anymore, it becomes rebirth caused by love. This is the major line that reveals, if needed be, the deep spiritual level of BSG.
My favorite show. I can never get over how well it’s held up - time for a rewatch!
So say we all.
It has NOT held up well. Look how superior AVATAR'S effects are and how superior the Transformers movies are for showing CGI robots than the Cylons in this. Its dated.
So say we all !!!!!
Miss this show sooooo much.
Such an incredible show. Thank you for creating it.
Very cool ending. The whole series was so well thought out, written, and acted. Loved it - the whole part with a creator behind it all moving the various parts. Did not see the coming into play - have to rewatch this series soon.
Still keep coming back to this show every couple of years. Just a great show. So well done. So much intensity and emotion. Really one of the best sci-fi series of all time, even with the disruption of the writers strike and such. Just pure greatness.
Originally I was very cold to this remake/reboot having grown up watching the original. However I watched it and I thought it was very well done. And you're right, the ending is perfect!
This will always be one of my favorite science fiction series. Ronald D. Moore's work is fantastic.
I Like the scene.
All this Project is Amazing. (With deep meaning)
Battlestar Galactica ❤️
There's no way the Battlestar Galactica story can be re-told again without sucking by comparison. Just no way.
I wouldn't hate if there was a BSG that had more of the tone of the original series. I'd hope it's like Batman, where going 'dark and gritty' doesn't completely preclude having something more fun and adventurous too. It also means stuff doesn't have to just sit in its shadow.
@@GrandHighGamer
I liked the darkness, just not the, honestly a bit pretentious religiousness
It's hard to realize this show started 17 years ago and ended 12 years ago. This was a hit of a remake, it truly was. I would like to say that this was human drama with science fiction and not the other way around. I have to go and rewatch this from the beginning during Christmas break. Seeing this last ending bring back emotions that I haven't felt since that ending was first shown. The Humans of Earth and this earth is an amalgamation of humanoids that originally lived on the planet and humanoids from another part of the galaxy along with cybernetic biological entities. You couldn't make this up. And 150,000 years later, wow. You know I felt so sad with Giaus Baltar (the real one and real 6). He tried for years and decades to get away from his farming heritage and end it all doing exactly what he tried to get away from. You saw all the emotions hitting him and you see him and 6 walk into the African forest never to be seen again.
You know why everyone was sad, it was the fact that we saw the end the end of them as a people and the start of them becoming something else and they realized it. Hell Adama instead of staying with his son was tired and wanted that one last thing to be with his woman Roslyn and live out his dream.
Another very emotional moment was when the Battestar Pegasus appeared and they realised that they weren't alone.
17 years?...
Initial release: September 1978, so make that 44 years.....
@@dougaltolan3017 The remake Doug.
You call it a human drama…i call it a space opera :) either way it’s the best example of a complete sci-fi story every told. So say we all.
its all happened before it will all happen again ,, so say we all ..
One of the best sci fi series to exist one of my favorites, brilliant soundtrack as well.
Ok, now I have to watch them all again. I still think this ended up being the best series I have ever watched.
Much better than the original, which I watched religiously as a teenager.
I cannot believe this has aired 15 years ago today.
This was the greatest Sci fi show ever made.
Haven't seen Babylon 5?
@@techtonikshyft Babylon 5 relied way too much on cartoonish CGI but all I really care about is STORY and CHARACTERS and Babylon 5 dominated in that area, more so than any version of BSG.
Becouse Firefly never get an ending and Stargate got cut off.
Unironically, what I really liked in BSG that is was only 4 seasons. No unnecessary fillers, no, long tail. Strong and well-paced entirely.
@@Tilnaor Something I passionately HATE is when a show has a specific "quest" or "goal" one or more characters is trying to achieve and the show ends without ever resolving it. The 1950s tv show THE FUGITIVE did end with him being exonerated. Star Trek Voyager DID end with the Voyager making it back to Earth but if a show has a specific GOAL then if funding is running low or for some other reason they have a limited number of episodes YOU MIGHT AS WELL ACHIEVE THAT GOAL.
The Original Battlestar Galactica was like a book that ended halfway through with no explanation and then the awful Galactica 1980 which was totally inferior to the real show.
@@techtonikshyft Yes, i have seen and a Fan of Bablylon 5, this was better in my opinion
This show was so underrated… one of the greatest sci-fi series ever made. And what’s even more beautiful about it… it ages like a fine red whine.
Thank everybody involved in creation of this amazing masterpiece, great story, thank you for a lot of good in my life as well as lifes of many others.
The best series ever, that is all…
There is nothing much to say, best TV show ever existed.
Check out Quantum Leap!
The Expanse.
There have been several "best" TV shows. China Beach, The Expanse, Animal Kingdom, etc.
There are almost as many "Best series ever" as there are viewers.
@@chrisparkes2179 ha ha
I always come back every few years to watch this masterpiece series.
“You know it doesn’t like that name….” Absolutely hysterical that they throw this line in after 5 years of harping on about God and a Plan.
I want to see what happens to them afterwards. How Gaius comes along with his farming, how Lee does with his exploring etc. How they survive with no technology
This is probably the only time when I liked a reboot television series over its original. Don't get me wrong, I loved the original show from the 1970s but, the producers of the modern version really captured something special. My only real criticism is that I felt this show could have and should have had at least two more seasons. The show never really took a dip in the ratings and it seemed like they were trying to rush its end. Still, I feel that they found a very dramatic and cohesive way to bring it to its conclusion.
It was a victim of the writers strike iirc.
@@archer9338 that's not really what the producers claim. They stated that they wanted the show to go out on top end for it not to get old. To that end, they wrapped it up early.
@@archer9338 in fact, Ron Moore was not only the producer he was the lead writer of the show and I saw the interview which I have on DVD with him stating that. Honestly, I thought it was really a dopey reason for ending a show. Lol
That scene where when Laura died sitting right next to Bill in the Raptor gets me every time.
Gaius Baltar; what a story arc....he redeemed himself 🙏🏻
Hands down one of the most amazing scifi series ever.
Met most of the cast at Pensacon in 2019 before the plague. Really great group of people! It was very interesting to hear their insights on the show. Many of them admitted to not liking the initial divine direction of the plot, but they all agreed that the ending was solid.
I understand that we may be getting another run at BSG again; I would be excited to see a fresh take.
@user-tu1ho8jq2m, But, why is it really needed?
@@mitchellmelkin4078 well, it’s a beloved and cherished show. That means it’s due for a major woke overhaul. It teaches nothing about gender fluidity, pride, environmentalism, collective rights, or anti-racism. Gotta make a new one and put all that into it.
@mitchellmelkin4078
I totally agree - there's no way they could improve on it and, as inglebear84 says above, we'd most likely get a load of woke garbage.
No, we don't need inhumane, unethical unscientific woke garbage. @@inglebear84
@@inglebear84 Nice toxic bandwagoning there. Pretty sure BSG had elements of a lot of that and it certainly was very much a show of its political era, it's only fitting a new show would be too. A new show would almost certainly explore the dangers of authoritarianism, division and hatred. BSG's creator said as much at an event where your Orange Dictator was, let's say, less than appreciated.
You do realize BSG's cast and staff were and are largely progressives? Should be evident from watching the show, they literally throw away their technology to go live in the woods with the tribes in the clip above, it doesn't get more environmentalism than that.
I have Never loved a show more. I miss watching it for the first time. Maybe in 150.000 years there will be a new me on a new world watching it for the first time again.
I LOVED this twist at the end...Its even more relevant now with all this AI stuff kicking into high gear. On thing that boggles my mind is, Baltar was NOT a cylon...how could he still be around 150,000 years later
well he wasn't one back then but this current one we see is. Just like 6 isn't the same one as the one from the past. Same bodies but different ones of course. These current 2 might not even have the memories of the originals or the ones from the past. They knew about the originals child, but that might just be outside observer knowledge, not any actual knowledge of living there 150,000 years ago. They just created a cylon that looked like Baltar for some reason.
I kinda got the vibe he was an angel like Starbuck was supposed to be.
Loved this ending, even though we're still not sure who/what Head!Six or Head!Baltar are.
Ironically, the ending is even more relevant today, more than ever....
Tricia Helfer is so stunning
Easily one of the finest television series ever produced, in ANY genre! Hands down.
After everything Adama did, he and Roslin should have had a few peaceful years together.
Only in Hollywood............
Like the inspiration for the show - despite all the tribulations Moses never lived to settle in promised land
She fulfilled her destiny
Rewatching this show year by year like all of this has happened before and will happen again.
Till this day by far my favorite SciFi series. Not sure if anything this unique will ever be made. It's in a league of is own. I loved all the main characters so much. I just like rewachting the whole series from time to time..
How many other sci fi series and books have you read? BSG for me is very well filmed but the overall story is an above average but nowhere near elite story telling of someone like Asimov with Foundation and the Robot Series, EE Doc Smith with the Lensman Series or Weber with the Safehold and Honor Harrington Series. And this does not even cover Babylon 5 or various episodes within the Star Trek Universe like City on the Edge of Forever. I would even rate Stargate roughly at the same level as BSG.
@@psu2dcu cool for you. What releveance has this on MY opinion?
@@HVG67 Your opinion is not the only opinion. I have a different take; when I hear sweeping statements about it's in a league of its own, its unique that's when I wonder how much of the sci fi landscape you have tasted. There is some truly fabulous sci fi available either in series, movies or books.
@@psu2dcu Watched many Sci fi shows from Star Trek, Bablylon 5, Lost in Space, V, Star wars, and this show is definitely a league of its own, like Henk Van de Goor said. So i agree with him.
@@justcallmebrian793 Star Wars is sci fantasy not sci fi. V is a terrible drama. Lost in Space on TV was more of a kids show, the remake was good but not great. ST and B5 are on a totally different level of thought provoking story telling. For me BSG is a B for story telling while the acting and special effects were an A-. Again, not saying is isn't good just that in the wider world of sci fi especially in book form much better stories.
The best ending to a science fiction series I ever saw.
I just finished a re-watch of this whole show again, yep still the best Sci-Fi going. So Say We All
Such a great series. Almost perfect, as close to perfect as anything I've watched that is.
Anyone in Hollywood who wants to do a reboot can point to this show as a shining example of how to reboot right.
This show was far better than the original.
They want to reboot this again.
@@TheGavrael Hollywood no longer has the talent required to reboot this correctly.
Great show, need more like them...
Perfect day to upload this
The only thing that bugs me here is Hera's remains being labeled as "the remains of a young woman", found along her father and mother, implying something really bad happened, kindda wished theirs had been long and happy lives.
By contrast Admiral Adama probably lived way many more years, with all the dignified peace the man who fought the greatest battles across the longest journey deserved... yet completely alone.
I guess the whole thing was meant to be bittersweet, offering no apology in that regard... I fracking loved it still.
Well, she had to live long enough to have children that survived.
They say young but don’t cite a specific age, for all we know she made it to her mid 40s as was just had her age misidentified
She may have been buried alongside her parents when her time came, not implying something terrible.
they don't say she was buried with her father and mother, head six says she lived in tanzania 150000 years ago and gaius says that she lived there with her parents.
@@-..-_-..- exactly
Nice cameo by Ronald D. Moore (reading the magazine).
Now onto the selecting of Jimi Hendrix "All along the Watchtower" for the ending
1. The song starts in the middle of a conversation "there must be some kind of way out of here...." is a prototypical escape
2. Joker and the thief quintessential historical allegories. Joker wears the mask (cylons), the thief (humans) want to claim immortality or Godly presence making a sentient being that mimics, obeys, and amuses them.
3. Both the joker and thief are representation of being outsiders from the norm, BSG arriving as visitors to Earth.
4. "The Princes" (Gods of Kobol), kept the view, from a great distance from a time and place in the past.
5. "While all the women came and went" -multiples of Kara Thrace "Deus Ex Machina" with power saving a seemingly hopeless situation arrived, departed, resurrected in the plot. Unlikely as savior to improbable events bringing order out of chaos.
6. "Barefoot servants", The unrealized cylons, the Final Five do not have model numbers born through reproduction, not built.
7. "Wildcat begins to howl", represents powers of untamed nature
8. Both the joker and thief approach towards the "watch tower" (Gods) representing an impending confrontation. And then the last line of the song strengthens this suggestion with imagery of a furious storm starting to build.
9."The wind began to howl", the use of nuclear weapons
10. Last lyric repeats......."All along the Watchtower" fading out.......indicating the cyclical plot.
One of the best series finales I've ever seen on TV.
It's funny how we managed to find Hera's fossilized remains, but not a sign of any synthetic technological item they used. Ceramics, Titanium, and Glass last nearly forever.
My thoughts also. It makes for a nice narrative but the science doesn't hold up.
OK, Not to be putting a tinfoil hat on, but there are many things that archeology in the real world can't explain satisfactorily and they gloss over with a theory. What makes you think the people of this world would be any different? The simplest and easiest explanation would be the site was contaminated at some point in the past. Just look up the history of the Piltdown Man to see how someone with an agenda can interpret the facts.
Yeah, they thought life on New Caprica was hard, living on Earth with no lasting tools or structures or art and making each subsequent generation dumber is going to be hell. Everyone’s just going to have to play caveman and hunt and gather for their food.
@@TheGavrael It seems to me they would not regress that far. As long as they remained in an organized community, there is ample time to use written language to record important information, techniques and processes particularly with basic farming, health, sanitation, water collection, basic tool and industrial production and science equivalent to beginnings of steam powered economy. It would not make sense to me they would regress back to a Caveman level.
@@psu2dcu they have to since earliest evidence of agriculture didn’t emerge until 20,000 BC. Which gives them 130,000 years from when they land to essentially obliterate any technology and erase language and structures and everything from the archaeological record. That’s the problem making it take place in our earth’s past. You have to conform to what we have as evidence. This is a smart sci-if show, not a fantasy fanfic, which makes the choice for our earth all the more baffling
The last episode gave me goosebumps. Perfection.
never ever occurred to me until just now that Gauis and Number 6 in the ending scene were actually modern 'angels' - mind blown
well, more accurately, 6 was a representation of angels, and gauis was a representation of demons, or more plainly good and bad, right and wrong, the two birds who wisper in each of our ears, etc.......
@@specter86fl great observation!
@@specter86fl Mind explaining why he almost threatening said he doesn't like being called that and then said how silly of me? Whats this? Like they know God personally? Since when?
Time to watch it again! Loved it so much.
Excellent ending. Perfect. Didn't seem like it when I first watched. But after repeated viewing, I think this is the perfect ending. Profound. "All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again". The last bit about the law of averages in a complex system. Can't see how this can be topped.
All-time favorite series and concept.
4:01 and there he is, the creator of this absolutely stunning sci-fi series!
You mean tge guy holding book?
@@yanghao8351 glen died in 17
@@JustinMacri007 Yes, the guy holding the book is Ronald D. Moore, the creator of the Battlestar Galactica remake.
The best scifi drama and one of the best dramas overall ever made.
The ending of this show actually showed that, in this universe, the Colonials learned absolutely nothing in response to their mistakes. They instead started the cycle all over again, allowing everything they learned through blood, genocide, and tears to be forgotten once again.
Exactly. The only thing that has changed is that civilization didn't end in 1-3 thousand years because they rejected technology.
Future generations would've made their own choices whether they kept their technology or not, all they could do was what was right for them in the moment.
How human is that?
how do you know the cycle started once again?
@@zavatta9024 It's literally what this scene on the video is about.
Omg why is this making me cry again I seriously need to rewatch this
How did you know? I was only thinking about this exact scene last night ❤
A very prescient warning, and a very, very moving show. It changed me, just when I thought that wasn't possible.
I loved how they inferred that humans had Aphantasia, the inability to internally visualize, and cylons had life like and networked internal visualization.
Then you see this ending and realized the two mated, and most people have various degrees of internal visualization.
That's an interesting take I hadn't considered before
My Phantasia is exhausting. I have Narcolepsy. To dream saps me so much that it is like, when I wake-up, I hadn't slept for the most part. y dreams are like another life, I have memories of previous dreams when in a later dream.
@@Ryan_Christopher I had a similar experience in my early twenties. I went to bed (in real life), woke up (in a dream), had a very good relationship with a girl, including moving in with her, went to bed (in the dream), work up (back in real life). Now, thirty plus years later, even though I academically know that it was a dream, I still have an emotional hole left by this completely imaginary girl who never existed.
@@diogenesesenna9323 LOL none of my “dream girls” ever put-out. They can stay cut-off as far as I am concerned. I’m more afraid of moving back into this crappy dream apartment that I signed a lease on. I want to break the lease but the paperwork keeps disappearing.
@@diogenesesenna9323 wait..... What? Never heard of anything like that.
Big fan of BSG and The Expanse. Both are epic and deserve repeat viewing... Another show, B5 is seriously dated today so you have to put your low budget filters on, but it's still a worthy watch for the great characters and story arcs. In fact just finished an entire run through last autumn. Along with Firefly, these 4 shows epitomise what Sci Fi can be when it's treated with care and respect. Will be watching through the whole of BSG again this year for sure.
Good show, hard to see anything similar nowadays. The hard questions are in it with few answers,
Best ending to a series ever.
Wonderful ending......kicks the mind into overdrive!
Stargate fans recognize this place very well. This is Tolana!
(Yeah, I know, it is a university campus in Brazil, or something, but I find it interesting nonetheless)
Best Finale's
1. Breaking Bad
2. BSG
3. M.A.S.H.
Might be time to watch this series again. I have it on DVD, but also just purchased it on BluRay as well. It has a few episodes that aren’t written great, but overall it’s the best space opera series ever made.
I've seen it 4x. Only other series I've hit that many times is Breaking Bad. You are right - it's not without its weaker points, but I never found they weighed the series down for long.
Loved the ending. The series was so well written compared to others at that time. Kudos to the authors that they knew when enough is enough.
Hell of a series, always in my heart. ❤️ (and my cupboard, full DVD box collection)
A scifi that had some class about it, where the story didn't take a distant second place to explosions and general eye candy.... Can't wait for the next instalment in the universe because 99% of the scifi being vomited up on the screen just doesn't cut it.
Schön gemacht.
Macht Lust auf mehr.
Its a rare, rare experience, to be watching a TV show, as it airs, and knowing that its its a genuine classic. I think only BSG and Breaking BAd have gave me that feeling, sure, other shows are great, but to be only 4 or 5 seasons longs, and stick the landing so superbly.... its just....well, amazing.
The last montage scene or real world robotics..... just look at how much firther robotics and AI is now, a mre decade (sish) after the show .....
Scary....?