Fire Blanket USA EV Fire Blanket Demonstration with Fire Chief of Training Joe Elam in Oklahoma.
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2023
- Visit www.fireblanketusa.com to learn more. Listen as Fire Chief of Training Joe Elam narrates and EV Fire Blanket training that was held by the OSU Fire Services and Training on August 25th, 2023. Chief Joe Elam narrates the entire training from start to finish, including the importance of centering the blanket, who needs the blanket, and why it is important to not just let an EV fire burn.
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A line manufactured down the center of the blanket would assist the firefighters in getting the blanket properly placed quicker, while keeping the firefighters at maximum distance from the flames. The blanket can be placed on either side of center to account for wind. The firefighters would discuss strategy before deployment.
This was one of the most beneficial things we learned from doing this demonstration. One of the fire fighters doing the training suggested it, and are working toward making that happen. They had a couple other really great suggestions that we are looking to implement as well. Thanks for your feedback! We what to do whatever we can to make it easiest on those having to deploy the blankets!!!
@@FireCloakUSA Integrate water hoses into the blanket (all around the sides), which you can fill with water for weight. Keeping sure it will not been blown away and make it more airtight.
@@marwernowhy not just carry a few weights with it or a a hose you can fill off the truck and be reusable. Much cheaper than to manufacture in it.
yeah and having the edges weighted would be even more amazing. perhaps a hook up for the hose too?
that would be amazing - like have the edges be able to be filled with water@@marwerno
A+ for new firefighting technology that we desperately needed
Thank you!
why is it desperately needed ?
@@williamsmit619 because in case you weren't aware Lithium batteries burn like hellfire when ignited.
@@williamsmit619research thermal runaway
@@williamsmit619electric vehicles are the future which means electric vehicle fires are too
Love the product and I feel all fire departments should have one. 0:20 the Tesla Model 3 wasn't released till 2017 so that's a Tesla Model S. The S's have older 18650 batteries that can thermal runaway quite easily. Later Teslas have 2170 cells - they can also burn but have fire suppression measures built into the pack to prevent (or greatly reduce) thermal runaway events.
They still burn up. One just did.
"fire suppression methods"
What nonsense. More lies from Elon.
@@jhvorlicky yes, the glue between the cells is a fire suppression. There is also measures between the modules to prevent heat from spreading. Panasonic built those batteries. Feel free to look it up. This didn’t come from Elon, it’s public available data from Tesla.
Literally any lithium battery can have thermal runaway. It’s just in the nature of the design.
@@johnd9357 no, only lithium ion ones have the potential for thermal runaway, new LiFePO4 batteries are less prone to this issue due to their stable chemical structure. They are also incombustible, able to withstand harsh conditions, and less likely to release flammable gases or catch fire in the event of a hazardous event.
It probably makes sense to approach the fire from upwind so that the smoke won't affect the vision and breathing of the persons deploying the blanket. Keeping the blanket between you and the fire will also block the heat. Not everyone who will deploy these things will be firemen.
Thinking ahead, might they become EV mandatory like seat belts and other stuff. Helmets and respirators anybody?
good theory but impractical...should and "when" these fires occur the biggest problem is going to be toxic smoke inhalation, even those fire fighters with the hazmat suits are at risk , and most won't be covered up as they were for his "demo" , the blanket demo just show how dumb and dangerous and EVs' are, I wouldn't want to be on a road or near an EV fire, it is more lethal and quicker acting than radiation from nuclear fall out..
@@Mrbobinge there are people that have a drivers license but can't put the spare wheel on, and you expect them to act rationally, get the blanket out of the boot (most likely storage location), put it on while the thing smoking and maybe even have visible flames coming off of it? it just ain't going to happen, sadly
@@dghtr79_36 Following similar logic it means that no one ever carried a spare wheel 'cos some, couldn't be expected to act rationally. But if the city Mayor makes fire blankets mandatory.....?
@@Mrbobinge faulty logic, that driver may stop some other person on the road and ask for assistance with the wheel, but lets be realistic, noone, who will stop to assist a burning vehicle, will dig into the burning vehicles boot for the blanket, and at least for foreseeable future, electrics will remain a minority, so for this to work everyone will have to carry a blanket like that, and I'll guess they aren't exactly 0.99$ a piece
so - fix the original problem - the battery, don't invent expensive bandaids
there is another issue with these blankets - breathing in smoke, firefighters here used full face masks for a reason, because the smoke is trapped below the blanket, and as you're pulling it over, you're directly in the line of escaping smoke - I personally wouldn't even attempt this without full mask and bottle, and you expect drivers or passengers to do that, might be an option if it just lightly smoking, then you might have time to put it on, and it would be one man effort most of the time
so, IMHO, not a good idea to make everyone carry these
Suggestion: If getting the Blanket to lay on center of the car is critical, then how about marking the center of the Blanket with a Visible Red Line to help the Firefighters 🚒
I would imagine you can use this blanket to help protect exposures from standard structure fires too.
if they hand this blanket to cover your house
This is great! It keeps the fire away from other cars, people or structures that may get damaged. It also makes it easier for the responders to dowse it with water and uses less water. I would suggest having 3 or 4 firefighters to get the blanket on, one on each corner.
Great suggestion!!!
Keep in mind EV fires take over 40,000 gallons to extinguish, and can reignite multiple times and sometimes have to be submerged for days until they are safe. A normal car fire may only take 1000 gallons. (NFPA)
Thank you for working on and creating this tech!!!;)
so put a HUGE red X across the cloth to mark the center at all times for the user.
drag straps off both ends at corners and middle.
cinch cable around the circumference to pull it tight around the base so you dont come close to tuck it in.
cable runs down to the corner straps with releases so once pulled into place it can be immediately tightened from a safe working distance.
you’re welcome - opensource R&D
Thank you!!! All great points and we have passed them to our team. We are working on a center reflective stripe to go down the middle of the blanket to make centering easy even at night. Appreciate your suggestions!!!
@@FireCloakUSAgood to see you are looking into recommendations!
That blanket should have a water fill channel around the edges to weigh it down.
Bravo Fire Cloak.
Thanks for the demonstration.
Kudos to Ginger for providing worthy insight into the process and the product.
It's great that this will work on all cars. L-ion fires are particularly vexing but I think this a great innovation.
Is it dangerous to approach a gas car like that? Aren’t they prone to explode?
For real.
@@dbendele ... I would think it is dangerous either way. But I would also say that it is even more important to starve the fire of Oxygen ??? The ABC fire extinguishers do the same thing by displacing Oxygen ... i would think a proper fire blanket would KEEP the OXYGEN from getting back and reigniting the wreck. I would think there would be a way to get the blanket over and dowsing the the wreck with Dry Ice or Nitrogen ???
Spray paint a small dot or a small "X" at its center to help the firefighters know how to move to adjust its position in centering it as they're pulling it over the vehicle. DP Henderson, NV
This is an amazing brilliant product that is a Blessing to many! Thank you to all of you involved! 👍 👍
Great idea. Simple, but yet very effective
These should be standard issue for all vehicle fires.
R/C industry has has a similar product for years. But they have a bag that you store and place the batteries in during charge and discharge cycles.
Great tool ! Other means are not up to the task - Bravo! Especially in under ground garages!
sent to my uncle who is assistant chief and my brothers buddy who is a fire chief.
@shrimpinpat Thank you! We really appreciate you sharing the video!!! 😊
The battery on this Model S (!) didn't seem to have caught fire. Little jet-like explosions are typical of battery pack fires. There was nothing like that here and most of the fire was on top.
Brilliant product. Love the suggestion of the line down the middle, but still a brilliant product.
Great product
Nice !
Are these available as storage covers for lawn equipment like the big battery mowers. You could team up with DEWALT, put their colors and logo on the cover. Great garage storage safety device for when the mower cooks off. Also could be a great car cover for people who have to park their cars in their garage.
I see good potential here in that it is greatly reducing the pollutants being emitted ❤.
Couple critiques on the presentation. A clock in the corner would be helpful to establish time from ignition, time when the runaway began, time from blanket application and a side by side of the thermal with temperature readings pointing out the temperature peak and a line graph showing the change from application of the blanket to what it is when they remove it to finish the job. Please dial the volume down a few on the dramatic music it seems to be competing with your audio. Other than that a good demonstration when this will occur with EVs, now what about a semi a diesel semi hauling multiple Teslas and one goes?
Thanks for the feedback! All great comments!!! Love the clock especially. We originally planned to do this live so that it would be in real-time, but we had issues with the heat that day and some of the equipment failed. Definitely ideas we will use in the future!!!
These should be standard equipment in all vehicles, and they should be a little bigger❤
Good luck! I hope it proves to be a great tool in the field.
We had a Tesla in my area that had a battery fire after a major collision. It was like a horizontal flamethrower coming out on all sides from under the car and was nothing like this. No one could get near it and they had to let it burn. Would this blanket have worked?
Yes, this is what it was designed for...to contain Thermal Runaway and then cool down the vehicle.
cool to see. I had wondered of fire blankets ..real fire proof, for welding on automobiles/trucks. I finally found one, and thought of electric vehicle fires. The tech does exist. This is the first I have seen it to fitght a fire... I only have one to prevent them.
Great idea! 😎👍
Awesome
Impressive
This seems like a great idea!
Think shop-assistants. They wrap the goods and tuck the ends. Fire blanket edge drag-tucked round under wheels, on the wind side, would help stabilise it.
Excess blanket on lee side could be manipulated to form pockets of heavy drench water.
There are multiple videos of fire blankets causing an explosion as gasses build up underneath them. There is also worries that wrapping an extinguished electric car in one of these and later on another one of its battery packs begins to leak causing an explosion because of the gas build up.
Very cool product anything to help the departments
So... now we are just straight sweeping the EV car fire problem under the rug...
Literally
Until manufactures find a way to make them safer, what else can we do? shits are lighting up every day, this seems like a solid idea for now.
Gas cars catch fire too. I don't think it's reasonable to dismiss EVs cause they can catch fire. It's only interesting if they catch fire more often than gas cars, which so far it doesn't look like they do.
@@EvanCalder Interesting that the only measure you acknowledge or use in your evaluation is the frequency. Not the intensity, the severity, the duration, the toxins, nor the ability to extinguish.
More gas car fires than EV fires. More water used in total on all the gas car fires, when compared to EV fires. (In 100 000 combustion engine cars there are more fires than in 100 000 EV). Also, they said it can be used on gas car fires too. So you can hide that under that blanket too.
They need to use the blanket, to smother the flames, and then use liquid nitrogen to super cool the batteries to end the threat, that tech is still being refined atm.
Yes, the battery fire does not need oxygen. It needs to be cooled down to stop.
Cryotanks must vent and it would need to be replaced weekly at high cost.
Needs a big orange line down the middle so that they can see where the center is located.
Get to work. 😉
Government subsidiaries would be a quick way to boost your growth.
This is a winner, through and through.
Thank you!!! We are working on adjusting that with a reflective strip right down the center! We are also planning to work with fire departments to have grants written in order to get them the funding they need for EV fire suppression :)
Google is paying attention...so much so its scary. I bought a fire blanket on Amazon yesterday...today this was at my top of RUclips suggestion list....yeesh...
Center should be mark
In the Navy when a plane catches fire they just shove it over the side because you can't put out a burning alkaloid metal as it self oxidizes. They use alkaloid metal for underwater welding if that tells you anything. The lithium iron batteries are better but they still burn. Another fun task for the firemen is that if it's on an asphalt road the tar in the asphalt lights off.
A drawstring at the perimeter to keep it in place? Great to see this innovation
Thanks for the suggestion! That is a good idea. We will pass it along to the team!!!
This is very helpful, and because fires never really produce afterlives.
May need a clip-on weight for four corner (or six to include sides) -- in case if it's windy or annoyance to keep the blanket in place.
Needs to be wider. Those guys almost fudged up when they placed it
What a nice idea! Greets from Germany
Great product. These should be required at all DC Fast Charging stations. The federal NEVI plan requires a minimum of four ports per site. The only thing worse then 1 EV on fire is 4(and possible the battery bank, if one is used at the charging site).
@@erty7012and gasoline powered ones aren't?
I love how theyre talking about how important it is to be centered yet the damn thing is as off center as possible
Might have saved a car carrier had all the EV's on board been covered with these as a matter of policy.
Then some softcock would whinge about their windscreen or paintwork getting a "scratch".
Best answer is BAN EV's from ferries.
Lithium battery fire is self fueled and does not need oxygen to burn, I don't think covering with a fire blanket will put it out or control it. R/C hobbyist uses fire boxes/pouches to help contain the fire from spreading, but it does not prevent or slow it down.
Drawstrings around the perimeter of the cloth would better secure it.
After the fire blanket, just cover it all up with a dump truck full of dirt, take no chances!
Nice electric vehicle body bag!
most manufacturers are going to a different chemistry from lithium ion, like LiFePO4, Sodium or solid state whose burning characteristics are negligible.
True! But with millions of EVs and hybrids on the road, the need will be there for some time. Additionally these can be used on ICE fires to make the process quicker and provide a containment option for places like parking garages, road tunnels, ferries, etc.
@@FireCloakUSA sorry, didn't mean to imply that we don't need these blankets, they are a great idea. It just sounded like EV's seemed to be taking a center stage in your video. I agree with you that going forward, they can be leveraged for many types of fires.
No worries and thanks for clarifying :) We aren't anti-ev at Fire Cloak USA. We are team fire department and first responders and are hoping to help make a difference in the way that they fight these EV fires. Thanks again for your thoughts and feedback!!! @@trevinom69
Solid state batteries... haha, keep dreaming!
The day that I would ever consider buying a Li battery car won't ever happen.
Solid state batteries might sway my decision!
Very cool demo. I'm interested to see how this technique develops.
Thanks!
Omg I'm a boomer and this production is horrible! It's worse than a late night infomercial
Should be making battery casing out that blanket
"It's imperative that you get these blankets centered."
OR, hear me out, make a SLIGHTLY bigger blanket. LOL😂
Haha! We actually have some bigger blankets for trucks. The bigger we make them, the more they weigh though. We are working on a solution to make the centering easier from the start though.
How about putting a center line down the middle of the blanket so each of the fire fighter's can see from their angle without having to say I don't have enough on my side.
The worst part of burning out on a roadway is the replacement of the road. The whole section of asphalt or concrete usually needs to be replaced. This can save tens of thousands for DOTs if those breakdown trucks carry them also.
What I see to improve this is put a line for the center of the blanket in both directions like a big x then you're not guessing at where the center of the blanket is
Thanks! We are working on adding a reflective center stripe to make it much easier to locate the center! Appreciate your feedback!!!
Great job 👍
This can work on multiple things. This would be faster, then trying to hook up a fire hose.
just needs tubes in the blanket that can be filled with water from the hoses to keep the blanket down
Its a huge welding blanket.
I thought you said it made it's own oxygen, so putting a blanket on it wouldn't help, but it does, so to me that means it's not making oxygen and the blanket is depriving it of oxygen. Which reduces the burn and temperature.
Some weights sewn around the perimeter of the blanket would work wonders.
Great stuff!!
Thank you!!!
The blanket is made of fiberglass that is of course not going to burn because glass doesn’t ignite. For home use just buy a large piece of fiberglass cloth.
Great stuff but I guarantee that within a year this blanket will be improved even more. Thank goodness for science am sure scientists are working on an even better material.
You should put a line down the middle so It's easier to center.
Guess when i have to buy an EV, i just need to get one of these and wrap it up every night. Boy the future looks bright, well when it catches on fire that is.
Do you wrap all your electronics? Don't be dumb... lol more iphones have burst into flames than EVs.
EVs are 6x less likely to catch fire than a regular car, 10x less likely to catch fire than a hybrid. So far, only some LG batteries in Chevy Bolts have had multiple problems. The news attacks EVs as much as they can. They report on a fire and then never follow up after the investigation shows the actual cause. For Tesla, all fires have had good causes where a combustion vehicle would have been more likely to burn... That ship fire? all the EVs were fine. Other cars, other stuff burned on that ship but all the EVs were fine... Literally will be sold... Propaganda against EVs for many years and pushed by social media companies as well...
Those statistics just use absolute numbers of fires: they fail to take into account that far fewer cars are electric. When you count for that, BEVs (and particularly Teslas) randomly catch fire much much more. The stats you parrot so unthinkingly also do not take into account the age of the vehicles
@@jhvorlicky I know i'm no expert by any means, but even if it's true, if they only have 8% market share (as of 2022), 6x still don't even come close to making since. I know my moms friend had a Kia EV that caught fire last year and a friend of a friends 2020 Tesla that was gonna cost 16K to fix (not sure what the issue was) so they traded back for a normal car. Just the intensity of the heat alone, IDK, just doesn't add up over all, imma stick with my 89 accord, best first car ever, and like you said *account for older cars* that even makes it more out of place. I know some day they will take over, but i'll wait till they get all the kinks out first, no way i'd ever buy this stuff now or anytime soon. Charge time, infrastructure, cost of maintenance, firs risk, from what i know in the real world to what they say on TV just isn't adding up right now. Just the hype to please the greenies, but the greenies don't care about you. When they get it figured all out, i'll take a look, till then my 89 330K honda will keep driving on. Wonder how many EVs will make it 330K like my car Hmmmmmmmmm.
@@jhvorlicky Also, in the past like 10 years, i don't know anyone's (friends, friends of friends, family) normal cars that has caught fire. I've seen a few semi's on the interstate on fire before, but no cars around the city i live in.
So, you could technically get burned if you are in a hurry/are not wearing protective equipment. Why not employ some kind of extension/stick gizmo that can grab the blanket from a distance to help put it over the vehicle and help with pushing it under the car rather than your arms and legs. You could put magnets on the ends and make it a metal stick or something. Just an idea.
Good suggestion! Actually one of the fireman mentioned adding some places where they could use their tools and hook the blanket and pull it back rather than using their hands. We are looking into adding these additional features. The magnetic idea is good too. That is something we haven't heard before. We can definitely look into it. The biggest thing to make sure of is that we don't add things to the blanket that will cause it be much heavier. Thanks again or your comments and sharing your ideas!
Looks like it does a great job. I might have missed it but can the cover be used more than once? Either way if only once still better than using 4 tankers and an engine to almost put it out
Thanks! We suggest a single use due to the toxins covering the blanket. After use, send it with the towing company to wrap during transport, and then to the salvage yard to keep it covered for 30 days.
Yeah 30 days after you put it out it starts up again. Scary stuff.
Good news lithium Iron Phosphate batteries don't burn and 80% of the market is shifting to that chemistry or similar ones.
NMC and NCA ignite at 180C LFP ignites at 270C and when LFP burns releases one third less energy than NMC or NCA.
@@danielstapler4315 Good details, here are some more: Even NMC batteries are built to prevent thermal runaway, and with a good battery it will only happen if there is a serious reason. So, with LFP, thermal runaway should almost never happen due to the higher temps needed.
A useful extension for this device might be the possibility to pump a gas without or with just little oxygen content below the blanket so that the formerly burning party cool down much more quickly. The expensive but effective approach would be pure nitrogen. Or you just use exhaus gas which has been cooled by chanelling it through a water tank.
Battery fires don't need oxygen.
Nice suggestion! We partner with a company that actually sells a "grenade" of sorts called the Fire Suppression Tool or FST that can be deployed under the vehicle. It contains a chemical that quickly drops the temperature of a fire. Combined with the Fire Blanket USA, it would take less than 15 minutes for the vehicle to be cooled down enough to finish extinguishing the fire with water.
Should have a vent for co2 injection, it would displace oxygen even faster.
Good idea! We have partnered with a company called Fire Suppression Solutions that makes a tool called the FST. Once you pull the pins on the FST, you throw it in and it drops the temperature of a fire by 1000 degrees every 35 seconds. This could be thrown into the EV first, then the blanket would be deployed. It would drop the temperatures even quicker! You can check it out at: firesuppressionsolutions.com/about-fst/
Why is this not used to wrap the battery during battery production? If this is part of the car from the start it may help increase occupant safety
This is a great idea and the improvements suggested in these comments could provide major improvements.
Bold centreline.
Weighted edges
Built in hose attachments.
Do think this great product could be marketed as ANY car fire suppressor instead?
Thank you! Yes we are working on several of these changes right now. Yes, We do market it toward ICE, EV, and Hybrid vehicles. Most fire departments can put ICE fires out in minutes with less than 500 gallons of water. The EV and Hybrids are challenging using on average 10,000 gallons of water, multiple departments, and hours of time. Because of this our trainings and videos do focus on EVs and Hybrids, but yes they can definitely be used on any vehicle fire! Thanks again for your comments!!
We've had several people asking for pricing for a single blanket. If you are interested in purchasing just one blanket, you can got to Stephens Truck Center (Fire Cloak USAs parent company) at www.okwreckers.com/electric-vehicle/safety/batp/fireblanket
Please make these in several sizes! It would be great to have them for ebikes and in my case, a small one for my electric unicycle. This would provide huge peace of mind! I would order one immediately. Also, where can I invest? 😊
I think having one of these available on an airliner, but in a smaller pouch form, for runaways on laptops, phones, etc. would be a good idea. Naturally would need the FAA involved.
How do you dispose of the blanket? How long will it sit in a landfill?
We suggest sending it with the vehicle. The towing company can actually wrap the vehicle with the blanket and transport it. Once they drop it at the salvage yard, they can use the blanket to keep the vehicle covered during the 30 day "watch period" and from there dispose of the blanket afterward.
Real great for the environment lol
Show me with just the full new battery pack from a EV car. As they said it creates it's own oxygen. How do they know when to pull the blanket? when smoke stops? Hours? if premature it just starts back up, back to step one. Nice that it keeps it from starting things next to it.
This was on a 2013 Tesla with the battery in tact. This was a training, so we wanted to wait and deploy the blanket when it reached thermal runaway. The temp was well above 1200 degrees and stayed there several minutes. For the training exercise, we waited and remove the blanket once it hit less than 100 degrees. You'll see the fire department run water over the blanket before removing. They did this at around 150 degrees. In a real life situation, the blanket is deployed upon arrival. The blanket can then be left on until it cools to 100 degrees which takes roughly 5 to 15 minutes. They can speed the cooling process even quicker by using a small amount of water while the blanket is still covering the car. This entire training took just 30 minutes from lighting the vehicle on fire, waiting for it to reach thermal runaway, and then removing the blanket. Each fire department would have the tools they need to test if the vehicle was cool enough to remove the blanket. You will typically see a small amount of flames which is normal. As you can see, we left the footage of the blanket being removed unedited so you can see how little water had to be used, and how much time it actually took.
A couple other things Fire Chief Joe Elam mentioned as benefits is that
1. It only took a single department. Most EV fires take several departments
2. It took 30 minutes. Letting it burn takes hours and is awful for the environment
3. It saves thousands of gallons of water. If using water alone, it takes over 10,000 gallons typically to extinguish.
4. The fireman aren't breathing in the carcinogens coming off the vehicle by letting it burn
5. Our groundwater and air aren't polluted with the toxins
6. Yes, as you mentioned, it protects the surround areas and contains the fire
We'd be happy to answer any other questions. Feel free to reach out anytime at www.firecloakusa.com
@@FireCloakUSA i assume you guys used Freedom unites right
Useless test as the BATTERY was not on fire. Just a normal car fire. @@FireCloakUSA
@@w8stralwatch again but this time try harder to listen to what the Fire Chief said “ it started popping “ “white smokes indicating battery fires” etc.
So ... the batteries were not burning... if they had been, this blanket would have achieved sweet F A.
We have seen where EV re ignite, so the blanket may put the fire out but what after that?
If they reignite you can use the blanket to cover it again to contain it.
This is hella impressive.
Pole to Install seems like a water hook up while it's on the car would be better like a water bed nozzle
I need Gingers number to discuss our future.
This is impressive
I got a question what are you going to do if it's in a great big parking garage in between a bunch of cars by the time the fire department gets there with a blanket sounds like me you're going to have a built-in Inferno since the people can't put it out their self
Ideally Parking Garages would have these mounted in several places on every level, especially near charging stations. Much like you'd have fire extinguishers available. If someone got a "battery failure" notice, they could actually deploy the blanket and that could contain a fire that may break out. If the fire is already started, then yes, fire personnel would need to use the blanket to contain. If it's already spread to 3 vehicles, the outer cars could each be covered with blankets , then the middle cars. This would at least keep a domino effect from happening, where maybe 3-5 cars burn rather than 15 to 20.
Might be an idea to develop a blanket with a charge that will detonate and deploy inside an electric vehicle when it catches fire. Kinda like a airbag.
They could be placed inside electric vehicles that are being shipped.
Good idea! We have partnered with a company called Fire Suppression Solutions that makes a tool called the FST. Once you pull the pins on the FST, you throw it in and it drops the temperature of a fire by 1000 degrees every 35 seconds. This could be thrown into the EV first, then the blanket would be deployed. It would drop the temperatures even quicker! You can check it out at: firesuppressionsolutions.com/about-fst/
That is an overated issue. You've probably read some bad headlines and believed them. But those "ev fires" on ships all turned out to be false. There's never been a full battery car fire on a ship. EV fires are 10x less common then petrol cars however since they do happen stuff like these blankets are useful.
@@lachlanB323lachlant6206 there's probably also 10x less evs than petrol cars at this point in time. So that would be obvious they'd have less ev fires than petrol as of now.
@@BabyJesus66 Per 100k cars... so no. per 100 k evs and petrol cars there's 10x less ev fires. Otherwise it would be very misleading lol
@@lachlanB323 Methinks you are an AI bot running at the behest of EV manufacturers. Sprung !!
after that the carpet has been put on and its cooled down is the car ready for transport or does it need something extra
Might need some new paint, but should be good to go.
We suggest actually wrapping the vehicle with the Fire Cloak EV Fire Blanket during the towing and storing process. Our parent company, Stephens Truck Center, brought this product on in an effort to help first responders and to protect the towing community and their fleet. Once you've dropped it off at the salvage lot, we again suggest keeping the vehicle covered for up to 30 days after as they often reignite. Thanks for your question! If you have any others, feel free to reach out at www.firecloakusa.com
@@MysteryD and a New battery
MystiD • '... some new paint, otherwise it is good to go' to...the big shredder at the junkyard.😂🤣
Even though the batteries produce their own oxygen and fuel, the flame can still be extinguished if sufficiently cooled. Several hoses spewing massive amounts of water mist under the blanket could provide sufficient cooling to extinguish the flame.
Once extinguished, do the batteries still emit toxic fumes?
Thanks! Yes this can easily deployed with other systems to cool even faster. The only thing with using water under the vehicle is that it exposes the ground and water supply to the toxic runoff, so we try to use as little water as possible. The batteries can reignite up to 30 days later, so it may be possible they would still have fumes, but we are not certain on that aspect.
@@FireCloakUSA, A whole bunch of atomized water mist is way better than a stream of water. A stream of water will go straight through the flame and hit the ground doing absolutely nothing to the fire, whereas a fine mist will mix with the air, evaporate, and cool the flame. Fire requires fuel, oxygen, and heat. Removing one of the three will extinguish the flame, so I’m suggesting removing the heat.
When I was a kid, the neighbors yard was full of bamboo, and it caught fire while I was home, so I grabbed my hose and tried to spray it on the fire. The water went right through the flame, hit the ground, and did absolutely nothing to extinguish the flame. So I changed my strategy to hosing off everything that was flammable in my yard instead.
When the fire department showed up, their hose, instead of spraying a stream of water, it sprayed a wall of mist. The mist entered the burning bamboo and extinguished the fire in about 2 or 3 seconds.
If you’re able to properly atomize the water, and apply the proper quantity, then there can be no runoff at all.
You need to do a side by side comparison.
Great idea!
What is the cost of these blankets? Is there an expiration date? Will the car owners insurance pay for the use of these?
Thanks for your questions! A single blanket is available for $1350 with the green carrying back. You can add on the waterproof mounting case for an additional cost. We also offer dealership pricing or bulk order pricing for those needing more than just one blanket. You can visit our website at: fireblanketusa.com/contact-us/ and click on Buy Now to purchase one or fill out the contact form to submit a price inquiry. We were told by the manufacturer that they have at least a 10 year shelf life. The insurance should cover the cost of the blanket in a fire like they would any other property you own, but we suggest checking with your insurance carrier as every company can be different.
Links in the description would be much appreciated
You can visit www.fireblanketusa.com for more info and to get a quote or also buy individual blankets here: www.okwreckers.com/electric-vehicle/safety/batp/fireblanket
@@FireCloakUSA thank you
I’m not a firefighter so please excuse the ignorance. Could a smaller blanket be carried by FFs and donned if trapped by a fire?
Awesome idea, what is ballpark price for one?
For the blanket and bag they are $1350. We have a weatherproof box that you can purchase that you can use to mount the blanket as well for an additional cost. We provide bulk pricing as well as grant writing assistance for fire departments. If you'd like to purchase, feel free to call 918-794-2300 or email: globalops@stephenstruck.com. Thanks for your interest!
Could the sides be weighted to keep it "stuck" to the floor to cut the oxygen? Not too heavy because it needs to be easy to put on and take off of course. Have you considered a hybrid of this with an ORS system? Also, will the final product have some sort of text or logo? Would go a long way for your company in the long run. I've got plenty of ideas for logos. Got more ideas if your interested. Have a wonderful day, nice to see this becoming a thing now because with the growth of the EV sector this will be a game changer.
Thanks for your suggestions! The weighted corners has been a consideration, but keeping the blanket light as been more important. Typically the fire department just kicks the blanket up under the vehicle and it stays until its removed.
@@FireCloakUSA It also looks like when they spray it down that does a good job of adding some weight to the blanket too. I think you're right. Keeping it light weight is more beneficial and probably helps keep its size minimal when folded up and stored before use. Great product. I can definitely see this being a useful tool with more EV's on the road now than ever before.
Battery fires are dangerous because they don't need oxygen. This blanket is nonsense.
@@jhvorlicky this blanket is for fire control. Batteries arent the only thing that burn in a car fire. This blanket will reduce the fires ability to burn things that do need oxygen to burn
Lithium battery fires produce their own oxygen, you are thinking in terms of conventional fires where oxygen has to be supplied from the atmosphere.