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He has to go to school because if anything were to happen with his powers than he wouldn't have the skills and he would have to go to school and learn all these things and having a bass knowledge of science physics and all sorts of things is good for someone to be intelligent and think on their feet in tricky situations. Not that he can't learn those things on his own time and not go to school but he's young might as well go to school make friends socialize skip a class here and there know what it's like to be normal for a while before it's a full-on career thing. It allows him to be more attached to humanity as well otherwise his father possibly could have persuaded him much more easily to the other side. And then Omni wouldn't have turned more human that goes with his mother too that helped with that.
FINALLY! I pointed that out on my first watch and no one agreed. No other reaction video I've watched mentions it either. That mixed with introducing just one single new character as "new muscle" seems suspicious to me unless it had been someone we already knew like The Immortal.
Omniman actually did have a job. He wrote travel blogs/books/reviews. They mention it a few times, like when his wife reminds him to keep writing his book, or when he comes up to her with a laptop trying to remember a name of a restaurant they've been to.
Mark is probably so determined to have a “normal” life because he wants to stay connected to the human part of him. Without his “normal” life he wouldn’t have felt the strong connection to earth and humanity that made him stand up to his dad
@@theeLonelyRedPanda Mark's suit was custom-made for him! Art Rosenbaum services a bunch of superheroes, and a lot of them aren't worth a custom-suit. So he has a bunch of premades on standby. Looks like Bullet-Proof is pretty small time or didn't have the connections to get a suit made just for him. Omni-Man was close friends with Art though, so of course Mark got a custom-suit.
I really love the hollow feeling that the writers have set up with this episode. To the point where it really feels like Nolan has died. Just seeing Mark desperately trying to recover and failing and Debbie trying to act like everything is fine is really heartbreaking. Nolan was the center of both of their respective worlds and he really just ruined everything. It’s really sad to watch them try and fail to be normal again.
Superhero or not Mark is still a teenager. Most teenagers need to be with their peers whatever that environment is. Going to college is not just getting a degree or going after one's ideal occupation, it's a common path to adulthood. After what Mark experienced from the moment he gained his power to almost kill by his own father the one person he looked up to his entire life, that itself is a life changing moment for anyone with or without superpower. He is looking for a place where he can belong. His mom is in the same place as he is, Amber seems to be the only one he can cling on at the moment to feel any semblance of support if not a sense of normalcy.
Immortal was brought back at the end of season 1 guys. Very last episode. Cecil takes Mark into a room that’s bright white, then they kill the lites and he can see that it’s some sort of lab. And one of the things shown was Immortal’s body on a reclined seat fully intact and a scientist checking him.
Knowledge is power. An uneducated superhero is useless, just a mere brawler. An educated superhero knows about the world they live in, the nuances of the people they protect, which can all be the difference between life and death. They can see beyond their fists and think about effective alternatives.
How is the school thing still a debate? The had multiple characters, including Omni-man, point out the importance of school for a superhero. Not knowing locations, distance to planets, knowing he can't fly someone so fast without breaking them, etc. Then you get a character like Robot using knowledge as probably his greatest skill. Invincible shouldn't just need it as a disguise for normalcy, but there are so many majors he can take to benefit how he saves people. Just physics could be incredibly useful when you have the strength he does.
Re: College, there was a line from Eve last season after Mark made a comment about not really needing to learn things where she said, "You need to be able to find Mongolia on a map. ...no, I"m serious, it's actually *REALLY* important to be able to find places from the air." Mark isn't going to college to learn a vocation, he's going because there are a million small things you need to know that are seemingly completely unrelated to being a superhero. I'm sure he also wants to have a "normal" life for as long as possible, but being educated as a superhero can be shockingly important in ways you'd probably never even consider unless it was something you lived day-to-day.
Surely all these are taught in high school, right? Not college? Why are you learning geography in college? Is... Is your education okay? j/k But seriously, high school, right?
So, the college thing. The Spider-Man movie you're thinking of is Across the Spiderverse. In that movie, Miles actually states why. To learn a very specific type of physics he doesn't currently know. (They're sending electrons across dimensions!!) He's a science geek. He's chasing knowledge. With Mark... Outside of trying to stay with Amber. He's not exactly the sharpest kid. He could probably use a couple extra years of general education. But I also think with Mark specifically there is a wanting of normality for him. While that may not be a thing he's allowed, he's still going to pursue it. He's chasing normal.
Fun Fact: In this episode, they said in *most* other dimensions, Omni-Man and Mark teamed up; But in the comics, our main dimension was the ONLY one with a good Mark.
Yeah I noticed that. Dude imagine being the only one in a multiverse/multi-dimensional plane of existence that ain't a superpowered mass-murdering sociopathic despot.
I really don't understand how The Immortal and Rudy were supposed to check the lab-site for survivors and yet...one of the Mauler twins and Angstrom are both still there later, alive and in no way hidden or anything. Strange.
y'all wondering the point of college for heroes but one of the things you have to keep in mind is that for spiderman and invincible both, heroing isn't necessarily a paid gig unless hero sponsorship is a thing in this world, that will probably change with the fact that he's now directly working for cecil though, working for cecil may not be a forever thing, either way having a job with flexible work hours or that let you work from home in the future may be a good way to not raise suspicions about your secret identity
With the college thing, I think you guys forgot OmniMan and his mon mention being a superhero doesn't pay the bills, Mark will need to have a real job sooner or later. Remember Omniman had a side gig. Everyone can't be like Eve living in the secluded woods. Plus Eve mentioned to him how important an education is, just because you a superhero "you don't know everything". There will be times when you need to use your brain. It's a reality factor, having powers doesn't take care of everything.
If i was told i was going to live 100s of thousands of years I'd probably want to educate myself as much as possible and experience as much as possible before its all gone. Omni-Man made great points about an unfathomable life span. But having the powers of a Viltrumite is a crazy thought. I also believe Peter Parker was working his whole life to go to college. Its also a part of the secret identity, ha cant just do nothing without it being suspicious. Unless he joined the avengers which is also a great point, how are super heroes compensated? Kinda how they do in the Boyz. Sponsors and movies and shit?
For the college question: I love the addition of it in this story! I don’t get sick of it, and it makes sense irl as well! Can’t tell you how many people go to college just to go to college without any solid goals. You pay for the experience as they say!
Why does he want to go to college? I think it’s partly wanting to be a normal kid having a normal life. It’ll help him stay grounded. But also, like Eve said in season one, it’s good to have as much knowledge as possible. They made fun of Mark a few times for not knowing geography.
Someone tell the Appleton Oak no, no he CANNOT open a portal to Mars. Only other dimensions. They specified he CAN'T open portals to different locations in the same dimension, so he has to get from place to place like a normal person, but can teleport to alternate versions of the location where he is standing
I didn't pick it up at first, but the Angstrom Levy we met in this episode, the man who wanted to build a utopia and do all the good, is basically no more. As the Mauler Twins warned, he interrupted and also lost sight of who he was. He is now a culmination of all of his other selves, and Mark is not good in most universes. That makes for one hell of a grudge.
The college thing there are several reasons. One is the financial as Oak talked about, or how it's trying to be and act normal. There is also the psychological aspect of his world is spinning out and at his age you go to college and that's just what's expected so he is doing the only thing that still feels normal to him. There is also a need to maintain contact with humanity for the moral compass. When you see heroes with that much power who detach from there alt identity you get Omniman or Homelander.
Am I the only one second guessing Cecil. Mark is choosing to obey orders to prove he is good but we know sometimes soldiers are ordered to do things that are bad. If you think about it Omniman was being a good little soldier when he took out the Guardians I am thinking by being the good soldier he is becoming like his dad
One of the main things that made Invincible a successful and unique comic is that it was primarily a coming of age story. It’s why he gets beat up so much and make so many mistakes personally and as a superhero. Him wanting to go to college is apart of the journey because we are really going to see him and everyone grow up. With all the failures that come with it until he finds his way
Need to watch the second episode still but can't wait for where this series is going, the Angstrom Levy arc is gonna be great. Invincible war here we come...
The writers came out and said they were surprised by the backlash to ambers character because they didn't intend for her to be a disliked character. I think we will be seeing a much more supportive amber this season
@@KCohere33nah the whining of him saving people over spending time with her was ridiculous then comparing him getting beaten to a inch of his life by his own dad with him hiding his secret identity
Mark still needs his secret identity. He needs to have some mundane profession. He also needs an education so that he knows what things are, where places are, and many other things. The next episode shows pretty clearly why knowing things is important for a super hero. Eve makes a huge mistake because she didn't know something.
Omni man did have a job! He was a writer. He wrote books and even in season one his wife mentions it that he has a deadline or something like that but yeah he did have one
Here's one of my main rebuttals to "why school?" Simple socializing making connections that can help in the future and mainly having a job that they can actually get paid with. Spiderman is a really good example because hes almost always broke but usually his knowledge gets him a good paying job at some point. Same for mark or any other super hero its more than just to go school its all the other stuff that comes with
You'd have thought that seeing Robot alive when we saw him die last season would have clued the guys in a bit, but no... As for going to College - an educated superhero has surely got to be better than an uneducated superhero!
The school/secret identity argument comes up with every hero, and the core reasons behind it tend to be for privacy/security, normality, and humanity. The universal idea that everyone needs a break from their job, that everyone needs some sort of private life with friends and family, and that hero’s are better when they can live as a human and it helps ground them and keep their humanity. If you can do anything all the time and you live your life only as a hero, then you may start to look down on the people you help as less than. Marks humanity and even the Omni man’s small time as Nolan was the only reason the earth isn’t chanting “ all hail viltrum” 😂
@23:48 - Spider-man is very different. Yes he was supper smart but of course in reality that just means you have the potential for learning fast and potentially discovering/creating new things. And he loves science and learning so we wants to go learn under these professors (even if they turn into lizards). Plus, that fool needs a job. Invincible though does not need a private sector job and doesn't need to be anyone other than Invincible. We haven't been presented with any reason he would need to go to college other than simply some attempt to be 'normal' though we haven't heard him get into that much.
Oak saying he hasn’t seen anything animated go this intense, makes me want you guys to watch the anime Monster and Full metal alchemist brotherhood. Now that would interesting for you guys
Some continuity and pacing changes from comic to cartoon: (not multi-verse'd) Bulletproof being in the Machine-head raid, is now introduced later. Robot's body transfer being after Nolan leaves, it happens before now. The GreenGhost being a man in the Eve special but a woman in the main series. There are more I'm sure.
Don't want to be that guy but like Eve said... It's important to know where you are in the air. Education is important. Mark could learn about physics and up his strength... Geology... Geolocational stuff like rocks, foliage, language, time. Politics, socioeconomics, construction (we'll see why some heroes might benefit from knowing more). Arguably Mark doesn't need college to learn... But it isn't going to hurt, either. Given his lifespan? I'd go w a library card. Mark clearly has room to grow, school or not.
Some people still believe or at least hope that colleges and universities are still institutions of higher learning. Those same people usually believe and hope that learning equals betterment. I like to think I'd still want to continue to learn and subsequently become a stronger person mentally regardless of my superpower.
He has to go to school because if anything were to happen with his powers than he wouldn't have the skills and he would have to go to school and learn all these things and having a bass knowledge of science physics and all sorts of things is good for someone to be intelligent and think on their feet in tricky situations
He should go to college for the same reason an athlete good enough to go pro from high school should go to college. Sometimes plans don't work out. He might get injured, he might get traumatized, he might lose his powers somehow. And then what? Back to the Burger Mart?
The only thing about college is that he's clearly sacrificing everything to be a hero. Like that's his lifes path and what he wants to do. I think he's only going to college for his girlfriend. He probably shouldn't go to college, but it is a show where's the drama in that. I went to art school and that was the best decision of my entire life and I'd never change that. There's like 7 other people I saw there that should have been there, the rest shouldn't have gone, and it wasn't the schools fault. Also Spiderman and invincible are friends :) I would say spiderman has more of a reason to go to college, dudes a genius, like a scientific genius. Peter Parker could help people as just a scientist of somekind.
I get the argument about Mark going to college. Especially since we don't know if he's smart or dumb. But who is paying for him to go to college? I get the agenda 😅
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This is my take on college/education. Peter Parker is extremely intelligent. We haven't seen that mark is super smart. Unless he's getting PAID MONEY to be a super hero.. he needs a back up plan. Look Falcon helped save tge world and couldn't get a loan and he was a veteran! 🤷♀️
So this is where omni man is from? They released him in mortal kombat 1 yesterday and he's a badass haha. I was like who's this actor he's awesome and then I see this lol thanks guys
"why does he have to go to college ?" Even if Mark was already knowledgeable which we saw in season 1 he is not. Superhero work doesn't pay the bills. The Flash, Superman and all of them have a job unless you're a king like T'challa or inherited a billion dollars empire and is a super genius like Tony Stark. We saw Sam (Falcon) struggle to pay the bills. Even Nolan had a job.
ngl I think it's legitimately a societal problem to view higher learning and self improvement as being solely in service of how you can use it to get a job to make money. Not to mention that they never really discuss hero compensation, he still needs a home and money to buy food, etc. It's likely working for cecil comes with a paycheck but who knows what might happen if mark wanted to stop working for cecil? there's no indication that flying solo will bring in the money to pay the bills anyway. Even if all his financial needs are taken care of for the foreseeable future and his primary responsibility is being a hero, going to college can still be an enriching experience for its own sake and it's understandable why a teenager would want to still do it especially if his girlfriend is going to the same school.
9:43 I have watched a different reaction to the first episode and none of them realized, that Donald was alive and shouldn't be xD I'm glad you got that xD Funny enough, even though I watched the recap at the beginning of the episode where Donalds death gets shown, when I watched the episode myself, I also completely overlooked that Donald shouldn't be there and only realized it during the React, even though none of them realized that xD
Forget being normal, get this kid a college education so he can understand how things work. A stats class, some physics, basic logic and philosophy. It is a running joke in S1 he doesn't know where shit is on a map. All of that is incredibly relevant if you want to be running around saving the world. Help prevent someone from manipulating you by learning debate tactics and logic fallacies. Learn history so you can understand the context of different conflicts. Plus, y'know, he's a kid. I'm always fascinated trying to figure out child soldier laws in superhero universes. It is tough to consider the line between if you can help, you should, and the weight of the world should not rest of your shoulders- others should participate and you are a literal child.
20:30 I love that this childish mindset is directly addressed in the second episode. You're never too powerful to educate yourself. Interesting you bring up Spiderman. Did you not listen to Uncle Ben? With great power, comes great responsibility. Thinking you're too powerful to learn new things is dangerous.
lmao I also ship mark with Samantha. IDK ever since the first episode in season 1, just saw it happening. Hopefully it does lol. But dam they are doing a great job with this season so far.
So far I haven't seen anyone offering Me ark a paycheck for being a super hero. So College might be a step to get a regular career. Also we know Amber will want Mark to do normal stuff. Him going to College just is more normal than her dating a guy who just appears and dissapears all the time.
I've always considered the fact that the reason some heroes have jobs within these worlds, so due to the fact that one day they may lose their powers. Or become depowered, what would they do once they become ordanary people?
Believe it or not the Invincible comic was using dimensions and the multiverse way before the craze of the past few years with Marvel movies and shows (I know using a multiverse by Marvel and DC comics and cartoons has actually been longer than the Invincible comic too). It's so disturbing to see Mark have such disregard for life in that other dimension as seen in the beginning of the episode.
dudes right on the 2nd to the left but he's a bigger picture kind of person, i think Mark is a kid who is tryin to create normality or some form of it, gotta take into consideration the fact he's a kid delveoping
The portal guy can only open up portals into new realities. He cannot open portals into different points in space. If he opens a portal at the corner of Main and First the portal will open up at Main and First but in a different reality.
@@BIGxBOSSxx1 Um no bc in the comics when invincible is fighting this villain he ends up going through a portal & meeting the Avengers & another with spawn .
This season starts off story packed and bit slow in terms of action but it’s still good episodes. I’ve heard though that episode 4 and the second half goes crazy.
I think the concept of being hero and balancing a normal life like going to college and getting a job only works for certain scenarios. For example, spider man in general, he doesn’t reveal his identity therefore isn’t backed up by anyone like the government or Nick Fury. Which means he has to support himself financially. While mark on the other hand does have the government on his side, so he a net to fall back on so going to college isn’t really necessary at all and honestly would make more sense if he focused on being a hero instead
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He has to go to school because if anything were to happen with his powers than he wouldn't have the skills and he would have to go to school and learn all these things and having a bass knowledge of science physics and all sorts of things is good for someone to be intelligent and think on their feet in tricky situations. Not that he can't learn those things on his own time and not go to school but he's young might as well go to school make friends socialize skip a class here and there know what it's like to be normal for a while before it's a full-on career thing. It allows him to be more attached to humanity as well otherwise his father possibly could have persuaded him much more easily to the other side. And then Omni wouldn't have turned more human that goes with his mother too that helped with that.
Bulletproof is using the first costume Invincible tried on. Tailor: "Can't blame me for trying to push unsold merchandise"
I never noticed that, good catch
@@GLaurence1997 I only noticed because another reaction channel started catching up on season 1.
I have the benefit of reading the books first. All I'll say is, Bulletproof and Angstrom Levy are very important
I noticed that when he showed up haha
FINALLY! I pointed that out on my first watch and no one agreed. No other reaction video I've watched mentions it either. That mixed with introducing just one single new character as "new muscle" seems suspicious to me unless it had been someone we already knew like The Immortal.
Omniman actually did have a job. He wrote travel blogs/books/reviews. They mention it a few times, like when his wife reminds him to keep writing his book, or when he comes up to her with a laptop trying to remember a name of a restaurant they've been to.
Who knows... maybe this comes back around at some point...
Mark is probably so determined to have a “normal” life because he wants to stay connected to the human part of him. Without his “normal” life he wouldn’t have felt the strong connection to earth and humanity that made him stand up to his dad
Yooo so right. Definitely keeps him sane
That line Omni-Man said to Robot is so messed up but very in line with how viltrumites think . Damn
I love they gave Bulletproof the suit Mark was almost given as a throwaway lol
have you read the comics? Wanna know who was gonna get the suit mark actually got lol?
@@theeLonelyRedPanda Mark's suit was custom-made for him! Art Rosenbaum services a bunch of superheroes, and a lot of them aren't worth a custom-suit. So he has a bunch of premades on standby. Looks like Bullet-Proof is pretty small time or didn't have the connections to get a suit made just for him. Omni-Man was close friends with Art though, so of course Mark got a custom-suit.
I really love the hollow feeling that the writers have set up with this episode. To the point where it really feels like Nolan has died. Just seeing Mark desperately trying to recover and failing and Debbie trying to act like everything is fine is really heartbreaking.
Nolan was the center of both of their respective worlds and he really just ruined everything. It’s really sad to watch them try and fail to be normal again.
They both badly need therapy, they're both deeply traumatized by Nolan, he completely destroyed his family unit
Omniman didn't die. Nolan Grayson, the husband and father is who died to them. That's prolly why it's framed that way.
@@jeslan9773 I didn't say he died. Just like it felt like he did.
@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 I know. I'm just supporting your point by drawing another parallel
@@jeslan9773 Fair enough.
Superhero or not Mark is still a teenager. Most teenagers need to be with their peers whatever that environment is. Going to college is not just getting a degree or going after one's ideal occupation, it's a common path to adulthood. After what Mark experienced from the moment he gained his power to almost kill by his own father the one person he looked up to his entire life, that itself is a life changing moment for anyone with or without superpower. He is looking for a place where he can belong. His mom is in the same place as he is, Amber seems to be the only one he can cling on at the moment to feel any semblance of support if not a sense of normalcy.
Immortal was brought back at the end of season 1 guys. Very last episode. Cecil takes Mark into a room that’s bright white, then they kill the lites and he can see that it’s some sort of lab. And one of the things shown was Immortal’s body on a reclined seat fully intact and a scientist checking him.
yeah its interesting that they forgot... they were also testing possible weapons on omni mans blood and other materials in the white room
@@Pl4sm4Ro4ch They also forgot that (the real) Robot died. I guess it's hard to keep track when you have to watch so many shows.
Knowledge is power. An uneducated superhero is useless, just a mere brawler.
An educated superhero knows about the world they live in, the nuances of the people they protect, which can all be the difference between life and death. They can see beyond their fists and think about effective alternatives.
How is the school thing still a debate? The had multiple characters, including Omni-man, point out the importance of school for a superhero. Not knowing locations, distance to planets, knowing he can't fly someone so fast without breaking them, etc. Then you get a character like Robot using knowledge as probably his greatest skill. Invincible shouldn't just need it as a disguise for normalcy, but there are so many majors he can take to benefit how he saves people. Just physics could be incredibly useful when you have the strength he does.
Then Cecil should offer superhero classes at the pentagon cuz half of that shit you prolly not even gonna learn in actual college😂
you don’t need a degree to be knowledgeable.
Re: College, there was a line from Eve last season after Mark made a comment about not really needing to learn things where she said, "You need to be able to find Mongolia on a map. ...no, I"m serious, it's actually *REALLY* important to be able to find places from the air." Mark isn't going to college to learn a vocation, he's going because there are a million small things you need to know that are seemingly completely unrelated to being a superhero. I'm sure he also wants to have a "normal" life for as long as possible, but being educated as a superhero can be shockingly important in ways you'd probably never even consider unless it was something you lived day-to-day.
Nolan also made the point that Invincible needed to be at school when Mark though he could make the trip to Mars in 30 minutes.
Surely all these are taught in high school, right? Not college? Why are you learning geography in college? Is... Is your education okay?
j/k
But seriously, high school, right?
Seems like there should be a superhero trade school or training program for that. Better structured to fit in the chaotic superhero schedule.
the multiple buildups to the title card was hilarious
So, the college thing. The Spider-Man movie you're thinking of is Across the Spiderverse. In that movie, Miles actually states why. To learn a very specific type of physics he doesn't currently know. (They're sending electrons across dimensions!!) He's a science geek. He's chasing knowledge.
With Mark... Outside of trying to stay with Amber. He's not exactly the sharpest kid. He could probably use a couple extra years of general education. But I also think with Mark specifically there is a wanting of normality for him. While that may not be a thing he's allowed, he's still going to pursue it. He's chasing normal.
Fun Fact: In this episode, they said in *most* other dimensions, Omni-Man and Mark teamed up; But in the comics, our main dimension was the ONLY one with a good Mark.
Yeah I noticed that. Dude imagine being the only one in a multiverse/multi-dimensional plane of existence that ain't a superpowered mass-murdering sociopathic despot.
Well angstrom probably hasn’t seen every dimension
@@damonestephens8722It's literally impossible to look at every single dimension in an infinite Multiverse
So he's probably referring to the TV dimension and the comic dimension. It's kind of insane to think that all those marks joined
That's not what Angstrom says in the comics
I really don't understand how The Immortal and Rudy were supposed to check the lab-site for survivors and yet...one of the Mauler twins and Angstrom are both still there later, alive and in no way hidden or anything. Strange.
Watched this episode a few times now and was just thinking about that
Likely happened before cleanup and search efforts began. They just saved it for the last scene for the title card lol
y'all wondering the point of college for heroes but one of the things you have to keep in mind is that for spiderman and invincible both, heroing isn't necessarily a paid gig unless hero sponsorship is a thing in this world, that will probably change with the fact that he's now directly working for cecil though, working for cecil may not be a forever thing, either way having a job with flexible work hours or that let you work from home in the future may be a good way to not raise suspicions about your secret identity
With the college thing, I think you guys forgot OmniMan and his mon mention being a superhero doesn't pay the bills, Mark will need to have a real job sooner or later. Remember Omniman had a side gig. Everyone can't be like Eve living in the secluded woods. Plus Eve mentioned to him how important an education is, just because you a superhero "you don't know everything". There will be times when you need to use your brain. It's a reality factor, having powers doesn't take care of everything.
The second season opened with a bang. Loved the alternate version of Invincible.
If i was told i was going to live 100s of thousands of years I'd probably want to educate myself as much as possible and experience as much as possible before its all gone. Omni-Man made great points about an unfathomable life span. But having the powers of a Viltrumite is a crazy thought.
I also believe Peter Parker was working his whole life to go to college. Its also a part of the secret identity, ha cant just do nothing without it being suspicious. Unless he joined the avengers which is also a great point, how are super heroes compensated? Kinda how they do in the Boyz. Sponsors and movies and shit?
For the college question: I love the addition of it in this story! I don’t get sick of it, and it makes sense irl as well! Can’t tell you how many people go to college just to go to college without any solid goals. You pay for the experience as they say!
It was definitely not the future because Rudy was still in his original body. A lot of people miss that
Why does he want to go to college? I think it’s partly wanting to be a normal kid having a normal life. It’ll help him stay grounded. But also, like Eve said in season one, it’s good to have as much knowledge as possible. They made fun of Mark a few times for not knowing geography.
Someone tell the Appleton Oak no, no he CANNOT open a portal to Mars. Only other dimensions. They specified he CAN'T open portals to different locations in the same dimension, so he has to get from place to place like a normal person, but can teleport to alternate versions of the location where he is standing
I didn't pick it up at first, but the Angstrom Levy we met in this episode, the man who wanted to build a utopia and do all the good, is basically no more.
As the Mauler Twins warned, he interrupted and also lost sight of who he was. He is now a culmination of all of his other selves, and Mark is not good in most universes.
That makes for one hell of a grudge.
The college thing there are several reasons. One is the financial as Oak talked about, or how it's trying to be and act normal. There is also the psychological aspect of his world is spinning out and at his age you go to college and that's just what's expected so he is doing the only thing that still feels normal to him. There is also a need to maintain contact with humanity for the moral compass. When you see heroes with that much power who detach from there alt identity you get Omniman or Homelander.
Omni-Man as Nolan did have a job, he was a book writer!
Am I the only one second guessing Cecil.
Mark is choosing to obey orders to prove he is good but we know sometimes soldiers are ordered to do things that are bad.
If you think about it Omniman was being a good little soldier when he took out the Guardians
I am thinking by being the good soldier he is becoming like his dad
One of the main things that made Invincible a successful and unique comic is that it was primarily a coming of age story. It’s why he gets beat up so much and make so many mistakes personally and as a superhero. Him wanting to go to college is apart of the journey because we are really going to see him and everyone grow up. With all the failures that come with it until he finds his way
this series is such a breath of fresh air with this super hero fatigue going on. it’s so good.
Need to watch the second episode still but can't wait for where this series is going, the Angstrom Levy arc is gonna be great. Invincible war here we come...
The writers came out and said they were surprised by the backlash to ambers character because they didn't intend for her to be a disliked character. I think we will be seeing a much more supportive amber this season
I always thought the backlash against Amber was ridiculous. I spent a whole year defending her online lol. I hope it dies down this season.
@@KCohere33 I thought the way they wrote how she found out Invincible's identity was really weak, but other than that I actually prefer show Amber.
@@KCohere33 then you must be stupid.
@@KCohere33idk I think she was really unlikable because of the writing. But it seems better this season, I liked her until the reveal in s1
@@KCohere33nah the whining of him saving people over spending time with her was ridiculous then comparing him getting beaten to a inch of his life by his own dad with him hiding his secret identity
Mark still needs his secret identity. He needs to have some mundane profession.
He also needs an education so that he knows what things are, where places are, and many other things.
The next episode shows pretty clearly why knowing things is important for a super hero. Eve makes a huge mistake because she didn't know something.
OmniMan actually did have a job. He was an acclaimed author if not mistaken. Not sure if anyone commented this already
Okay ive been watching this channel for tooo long now lmao
Saw the thumbnail and audibly said “SOMEBODY CALL THE DOCTOR!!!”
How can the scene at the start be the end of the season if the deformed robot is dead?
It's not it was an alternate timeline
@@benkinsey13 I know, the band asked if that was the end of the season and I'm asking how would you think that.
@DanteRU0312 probably just didn't register when they saw it. I didn't even register that Donald was still alive when I first watched it
I guess "they kind of forgot" :D
Omni man did have a job! He was a writer. He wrote books and even in season one his wife mentions it that he has a deadline or something like that but yeah he did have one
Every reaction video, usually they laugh at that very last line. That he won't work for anyone else ever. That's the birth of king mauler.
Here's one of my main rebuttals to "why school?" Simple socializing making connections that can help in the future and mainly having a job that they can actually get paid with. Spiderman is a really good example because hes almost always broke but usually his knowledge gets him a good paying job at some point. Same for mark or any other super hero its more than just to go school its all the other stuff that comes with
diamond dave cosplaying as the appleton oak💀
Just realized that portal was taking him back to our reality.
All heroes need an alter ego, so that will help him with that.
You'd have thought that seeing Robot alive when we saw him die last season would have clued the guys in a bit, but no... As for going to College - an educated superhero has surely got to be better than an uneducated superhero!
Mark has the most important reason to go to college: stay connected to the human experience as long as possible.
I was crazy to see your reactions just because of the tittlecard baits hahahaha they got you guys good lol
7:58 they explained a few seconds earlier in the series, that he CAN'T DO that.... wow. So much to paying attention
they were edging us for NNN with these title drops
The school/secret identity argument comes up with every hero, and the core reasons behind it tend to be for privacy/security, normality, and humanity. The universal idea that everyone needs a break from their job, that everyone needs some sort of private life with friends and family, and that hero’s are better when they can live as a human and it helps ground them and keep their humanity. If you can do anything all the time and you live your life only as a hero, then you may start to look down on the people you help as less than. Marks humanity and even the Omni man’s small time as Nolan was the only reason the earth isn’t chanting “ all hail viltrum” 😂
Omni-Man had a job. He was a writer. He wrote travel books.
That title card teasing!!!
@23:48 - Spider-man is very different. Yes he was supper smart but of course in reality that just means you have the potential for learning fast and potentially discovering/creating new things. And he loves science and learning so we wants to go learn under these professors (even if they turn into lizards). Plus, that fool needs a job.
Invincible though does not need a private sector job and doesn't need to be anyone other than Invincible. We haven't been presented with any reason he would need to go to college other than simply some attempt to be 'normal' though we haven't heard him get into that much.
"We haven't been presented with any reason he would need to go to college..." Other than the fact that he's thick as a brick! :D
been waiting for this reaction this season been insane so far can’t wait for episode 2 reaction
Oak saying he hasn’t seen anything animated go this intense, makes me want you guys to watch the anime Monster and Full metal alchemist brotherhood. Now that would interesting for you guys
Nolan had a job as a writer of travel articles, iirc
Some continuity and pacing changes from comic to cartoon: (not multi-verse'd)
Bulletproof being in the Machine-head raid, is now introduced later.
Robot's body transfer being after Nolan leaves, it happens before now.
The GreenGhost being a man in the Eve special but a woman in the main series.
There are more I'm sure.
Don't want to be that guy but like Eve said... It's important to know where you are in the air. Education is important.
Mark could learn about physics and up his strength... Geology... Geolocational stuff like rocks, foliage, language, time. Politics, socioeconomics, construction (we'll see why some heroes might benefit from knowing more).
Arguably Mark doesn't need college to learn... But it isn't going to hurt, either. Given his lifespan? I'd go w a library card.
Mark clearly has room to grow, school or not.
Some people still believe or at least hope that colleges and universities are still institutions of higher learning. Those same people usually believe and hope that learning equals betterment. I like to think I'd still want to continue to learn and subsequently become a stronger person mentally regardless of my superpower.
Also some people like to learn.
Without giving spoilers, I feel like the next episode sort of answers the “why go to college” question through another character.
Glad to see you back Diamond Dave!
He has to go to school because if anything were to happen with his powers than he wouldn't have the skills and he would have to go to school and learn all these things and having a bass knowledge of science physics and all sorts of things is good for someone to be intelligent and think on their feet in tricky situations
He should go to college for the same reason an athlete good enough to go pro from high school should go to college. Sometimes plans don't work out. He might get injured, he might get traumatized, he might lose his powers somehow. And then what? Back to the Burger Mart?
god damn I love this show
The only thing about college is that he's clearly sacrificing everything to be a hero. Like that's his lifes path and what he wants to do. I think he's only going to college for his girlfriend. He probably shouldn't go to college, but it is a show where's the drama in that.
I went to art school and that was the best decision of my entire life and I'd never change that. There's like 7 other people I saw there that should have been there, the rest shouldn't have gone, and it wasn't the schools fault.
Also Spiderman and invincible are friends :)
I would say spiderman has more of a reason to go to college, dudes a genius, like a scientific genius. Peter Parker could help people as just a scientist of somekind.
I get the argument about Mark going to college. Especially since we don't know if he's smart or dumb. But who is paying for him to go to college? I get the agenda 😅
y’all didn’t notice that Donald was alive when he died last season lol
just commented on yalls last video to check this out and here it is ready for me yall are the best keep up the warm super hype reactions and keep up the awesome diversity on the different kind of stuff yall watching, like yall put me onto those four shows by mike Flanagan that's been a total trip and I loved yalls reactions to one piece yall actually put me onto the 700-800 episode anime and I finally just reached some real juicy juicy stuff im positive they'll plan on working into season two, but no spoilers I'm a huge cinema head too, good luck with the channel yall are awesome.
I love all the show watchers I’ve seen be confused about Donald 😂
This is my take on college/education. Peter Parker is extremely intelligent. We haven't seen that mark is super smart. Unless he's getting PAID MONEY to be a super hero.. he needs a back up plan. Look Falcon helped save tge world and couldn't get a loan and he was a veteran! 🤷♀️
According to the Maulers Levy cant open portals in the same dimension only from one dimension to another
Don’t worry, guys. The show will address the whys and why-nots of Mark going to college
i couldnt agree more with Quinn, wtf with college anyways. Btw i just realized mark's best friend is not around
So this is where omni man is from? They released him in mortal kombat 1 yesterday and he's a badass haha. I was like who's this actor he's awesome and then I see this lol thanks guys
Watch their season 1 reactions to catch up
@@GLaurence1997 I'm definitely going to glad I have all notifications on lol
"why does he have to go to college ?" Even if Mark was already knowledgeable which we saw in season 1 he is not. Superhero work doesn't pay the bills.
The Flash, Superman and all of them have a job unless you're a king like T'challa or inherited a billion dollars empire and is a super genius like Tony Stark.
We saw Sam (Falcon) struggle to pay the bills. Even Nolan had a job.
I know we always say this.. but if genuinely will just get better. I was so interested I read the comics in a few days when I found out about them
ngl I think it's legitimately a societal problem to view higher learning and self improvement as being solely in service of how you can use it to get a job to make money. Not to mention that they never really discuss hero compensation, he still needs a home and money to buy food, etc. It's likely working for cecil comes with a paycheck but who knows what might happen if mark wanted to stop working for cecil? there's no indication that flying solo will bring in the money to pay the bills anyway. Even if all his financial needs are taken care of for the foreseeable future and his primary responsibility is being a hero, going to college can still be an enriching experience for its own sake and it's understandable why a teenager would want to still do it especially if his girlfriend is going to the same school.
This season is gonna be amazing
Evil Invincible seems like a villain from criminal minds
Mark could use some college. Maybe some geography and astronomy, specifically, lol.
EPISODE 2 is Also out !🎉
He would have to go to Mars to open a portal
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I have watched a different reaction to the first episode and none of them realized, that Donald was alive and shouldn't be xD I'm glad you got that xD
Funny enough, even though I watched the recap at the beginning of the episode where Donalds death gets shown, when I watched the episode myself, I also completely overlooked that Donald shouldn't be there and only realized it during the React, even though none of them realized that xD
this kind of reminds me of Kang the Conqueror from marvel in a way
Is Oak planning on doing more Harry Potter livestreams once he finishes the books?
Forget being normal, get this kid a college education so he can understand how things work. A stats class, some physics, basic logic and philosophy. It is a running joke in S1 he doesn't know where shit is on a map. All of that is incredibly relevant if you want to be running around saving the world. Help prevent someone from manipulating you by learning debate tactics and logic fallacies. Learn history so you can understand the context of different conflicts. Plus, y'know, he's a kid. I'm always fascinated trying to figure out child soldier laws in superhero universes. It is tough to consider the line between if you can help, you should, and the weight of the world should not rest of your shoulders- others should participate and you are a literal child.
20:30 I love that this childish mindset is directly addressed in the second episode. You're never too powerful to educate yourself. Interesting you bring up Spiderman. Did you not listen to Uncle Ben? With great power, comes great responsibility. Thinking you're too powerful to learn new things is dangerous.
lmao I also ship mark with Samantha. IDK ever since the first episode in season 1, just saw it happening. Hopefully it does lol. But dam they are doing a great job with this season so far.
Episode two is actually kinda nuts how much stuff they put in it
Waiting for vikram movie reaction !
So far I haven't seen anyone offering Me ark a paycheck for being a super hero. So College might be a step to get a regular career.
Also we know Amber will want Mark to do normal stuff. Him going to College just is more normal than her dating a guy who just appears and dissapears all the time.
I've always considered the fact that the reason some heroes have jobs within these worlds, so due to the fact that one day they may lose their powers. Or become depowered, what would they do once they become ordanary people?
Believe it or not the Invincible comic was using dimensions and the multiverse way before the craze of the past few years with Marvel movies and shows (I know using a multiverse by Marvel and DC comics and cartoons has actually been longer than the Invincible comic too).
It's so disturbing to see Mark have such disregard for life in that other dimension as seen in the beginning of the episode.
could you do a reaction to my favourite movie , Encanto ? Its a kids movie but it gets me in the feels each time
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Her what hairdo?
dudes right on the 2nd to the left but he's a bigger picture kind of person, i think Mark is a kid who is tryin to create normality or some form of it, gotta take into consideration the fact he's a kid delveoping
The portal guy can only open up portals into new realities. He cannot open portals into different points in space. If he opens a portal at the corner of Main and First the portal will open up at Main and First but in a different reality.
I really hope we get to see spawn & the Avengers in this season.
Wrong universe my guy
@@BIGxBOSSxx1 Um no bc in the comics when invincible is fighting this villain he ends up going through a portal & meeting the Avengers & another with spawn .
Yeah, I'd love to see Spawn fight in that battle
Otro buen video amigos
This season starts off story packed and bit slow in terms of action but it’s still good episodes. I’ve heard though that episode 4 and the second half goes crazy.
I think the concept of being hero and balancing a normal life like going to college and getting a job only works for certain scenarios. For example, spider man in general, he doesn’t reveal his identity therefore isn’t backed up by anyone like the government or Nick Fury. Which means he has to support himself financially. While mark on the other hand does have the government on his side, so he a net to fall back on so going to college isn’t really necessary at all and honestly would make more sense if he focused on being a hero instead
You should give the Netflix castlevania series