Thanks for the nice comment! Yeah he doesn’t always want to go but overall we’ve made some nice memories and had some cool trips with our bikes and hope for many more in the future!
Nice! My son has a hidden canyon as well and I can get my hands on an air fork from suntour like that one (for 24" wheels). Do you think it would make a good fit, or will it become too "mulleted"? San Quentin seems to have the correct geometry for this fit, but I have my doubts about the hidden canyon.
Thanks for the comment and question. I haven’t tried the suntour on a hidden canyon but it should be fine. A lot of 20” bikes have forks that technically are on 24” bikes and a lot of 24” bikes have forks for 26 or 27.5 bikes I’ve found. Yes, it will slacken the bike out and raise the BB a bit but I think it will be ok. Just check the standover heigh as that can get a bit tricky if they need to get off the bike on a hill or something.
Thanks Lisa! Yeah it’s short and easy, but fun and close to the house. I usually send beginners and families with kids that way before they go to Cypresswood. Take care!
Really great video! How tall was your boy when he started riding the 20“ ? We‘re thinking about to get the 2023 model for our 6y old son. Thank you for further informations.
Thanks! Hmm I honestly don't remember how tall he was. He has a long torso and short legs and is short for his age. I think he was around 6 or so when we moved him to the San Quentin. I think you should be fine then for your son. You may need to cut the seat post and/or if it is still too tall, you could always go with smaller tires. They come with basically 20" plus tires so they are taller. Good luck!
Thanks so much for the great video. Very informative!! In the video, your son mentioned he could not really feel the suspension moving...Did he mean that it was too stiff for him? Can you adjust it? Also, is there any way to lock it in place?
Thanks for the comment and question. Yes, the fork is very stiff for kids. It is adequate but not like an air fork where you can customize the air pressure for kids and make it so they can actually use the travel. That is the reason we swapped it out later for a manitou j unit. Expensive but worth it for us
7idp M5. It is an older one so I don’t think they make orange anymore unfortunately but maybe you can still find one. It was an inexpensive helmet that I liked. Good luck!
I see that I’m late to the party, but hopefully you can answer my question. I just ordered one of these for my soon to be 5 year old. I plan on replacing the fork to an air fork eventually, but it seems like the front hub will cause issues being that it is boost spacing. It seems like the only boost spacing fork I can find is the Machete Junit, and they are expensive, and nowhere to be found… so is the front hub actually a 15X110, or is it a standard dropout with an adapter? Also, I saw you mentioned that you replaced your son’s with the Machete Junit 20. Did you get 120mm travel to maintain the same axle to crown height?
Thanks for the comment, apologize for the late reply. Congrats on getting a bike for your 5 year old! Yeah, so not a lot of options unfortunately and they are pricey as you mentioned. We went with a 100mm I believe (i’ll need to double check). The bike was a bit too slack and tall up front stock (in my opinion). Also we had to install a lower headset cup (to allow the tapered steerer) so that raised it up as well. I think it is pretty balanced now. My youngest is now riding it and having a great time (and the suspension actually works). Maybe you can find a used one. If not, let me know and I can possibly get one for you and ship it out to you. Thanks
@@BikingRoots yeah I have to agree on it being too slack and tall. The stack height is pretty crazy for a 20” bike. I received the bike yesterday, and it does look like the front hub was originally a 100mm qr, but fitted with a boost adapter. So I’ll probably end up putting a standard 100mm steel axle in with a 9mm skewer to open up some fork options. I’m looking at the Trailcraft TC30, Atlas 20 from Forth, or a Suntour air fork, although, the Suntour is my last choice, as it is a fixed rebound, and not adjustable. There’s also the Prevelo Heir fork, but it’s almost $500, so at that point I’d rather buy the Manitou. I already ordered a new crankset for it. The 140mm cranks are way too long for his 19” inseam. There’s definitely a solid little trail bike in it, but it just needs some tweaks.
Sweet, congrats. Sounds like you are going to turn it in to a sweet little ride! Which cranks did you go with? We do get a lot of pedal strikes on ours (especially after we went to tubeless minions that weren't as tall as the stock tires). Some of it is rider error, but yeah most kid bikes have way too long cranks and they are always super hard to source aftermarket
@@jtrider3779Were you successful in changing the hub to non-boost? I’m in the same situation as you and trying to work out whether I should just bite the bullet and order the J-unit and a headset or I can save a few $$$ with a non-boost option (RST spex).
27 lbs w/out pedals. Not light but it is tough! Good amount of weight in the coil spring fork and also the chunky tires. On my sons bike we upgraded it to an air fork. Wasn’t cheap but took off a good chunk of up front weight.
Probably for the price but I wouldn’t rule out some Prevelos or wooms (usually more money though). The bike is pretty heavy due to chunky tires, fork was really heavy (we upgraded it later). Gearing was enough for our area. If you live in the mountains though, probably need a bit more but you can’t go too much more due to small wheel and derailleur hanger cage clearance.
@@BikingRoots there is a used one in my area and brand new for 399. I am looking at other options as well like the new specialized riprock. Bmc two stroke 499. The commencal meta because it matches my meta. And the commencal ramones. The nukeproof scout.
Thanks for your comment and question. Unfortunately/fortunately not. The frame is designed around the wheel size so you’ll need to go to the San Quentin 24 or another 24” bike like the Bayview trail when he gets older. The good thing is the used market is usually pretty hot for good kid mountain bikes so you can usually get back most if not all of what you paid for at least in the current market due to shortages. Good luck!
gracias por tu comento. Ese video se paso mucho tiempo. Ahora nuestro tesero hijo esta en este bici. El es mas o meno 120cm. 5-8 anos esta bien pro 20 san quentin. Buena suerte
27 lbs without pedals. Not light but beefy and tough. good amount of weight in the coil fork. We upgraded my boy’s bike to an air fork which shed a couple pounds.
Hey, sorry for the delayed response. Well, not sure actually how tall he was?! He unfortunately like me is short and he has short legs and a longer torso. He was I believe 7 when this video was shot. For a kit with shorter legs the San Quentin 20 is a bit of a struggle to get onto (my 6 year old still doesn’t fit). It has a pretty high standover and the 20” plus tires, while nice for traction, make it taller! If you’re able to go try one out and see how he gets on and off the bike, I’d recommend that. Good luck
@@BikingRoots hey man, how tall is your 6yr old? Its hard to test them here in syd for them bikes are direct sale and im not sure if there are lbs that sells them
The fork is coil so heavy and doesn’t move too much (at least with my kid on our trails). We actually converted it since this video to a Manitou 20 J unit air fork which was pretty pricey unfortunately but way nice and smooth. You do have to install a lower EC 40 to the frame to accept the tapered fork since they don’t sell it as a straight steerer. I think Suntour may have a less expensive 20” air fork that could possibly work and save weight
Depending what you are looking to do but if you want a longer travel 160mm up front enduro, full squish 29er, the Alpine Trail is a popular and super fun bike at $2800. If you wanted less travel, the Rift Zone 2 or 3 trim in either 27.5 or 29” wheels are also great options with the 3 trims having better front and rear suspension and brakes. They run in the $2200-2900 range. We mainly sell Marin at this time so I am biased towards them, but there are lots of great bikes out there right now from many other brands… availability however in your size however can be super difficult! Good luck
Great video and truly exceptional to see you and your son on the trails together. Stay blessed and humbled.
Thanks for the nice comment! Yeah he doesn’t always want to go but overall we’ve made some nice memories and had some cool trips with our bikes and hope for many more in the future!
Awesome stuff
Thanks for the comment. Our customers (and us) love the bikes!
Really like your videos. I'm amazed you have time to make any what with the shop and the family. The kids a natural. Great job 👍
Really appreciate your comment! Thanks, yeah he’s gotten even better since this video. I’ll let him know! Take care
Awesome awesome, awesome, just ordered one for my 6 y/o today. Can't wait for his reaction. See my last bike park video with him shredding.
Nice! Congrats! That will be great for him! Can't wait to see his progress. Thanks for the comment
Nice! My son has a hidden canyon as well and I can get my hands on an air fork from suntour like that one (for 24" wheels). Do you think it would make a good fit, or will it become too "mulleted"? San Quentin seems to have the correct geometry for this fit, but I have my doubts about the hidden canyon.
Thanks for the comment and question. I haven’t tried the suntour on a hidden canyon but it should be fine. A lot of 20” bikes have forks that technically are on 24” bikes and a lot of 24” bikes have forks for 26 or 27.5 bikes I’ve found. Yes, it will slacken the bike out and raise the BB a bit but I think it will be ok. Just check the standover heigh as that can get a bit tricky if they need to get off the bike on a hill or something.
Love it!! Great video! 😍 Timberlane looks cool! We need to plan a trip up that way! 😀
Thanks Lisa! Yeah it’s short and easy, but fun and close to the house. I usually send beginners and families with kids that way before they go to Cypresswood. Take care!
I stopped caring for a while and gave up searching for any bikes and look now shits finally back in stock!
Yeah some models are still hard to get but I think it’s better than it has been. At least for the moment!
Good parenting right there . Your older kid is the coolest .
ha, thanks! Well sometimes he is :-)
Really great video! How tall was your boy when he started riding the 20“ ? We‘re thinking about to get the 2023 model for our 6y old son. Thank you for further informations.
Thanks! Hmm I honestly don't remember how tall he was. He has a long torso and short legs and is short for his age. I think he was around 6 or so when we moved him to the San Quentin. I think you should be fine then for your son. You may need to cut the seat post and/or if it is still too tall, you could always go with smaller tires. They come with basically 20" plus tires so they are taller. Good luck!
Thanks so much for the great video. Very informative!! In the video, your son mentioned he could not really feel the suspension moving...Did he mean that it was too stiff for him? Can you adjust it? Also, is there any way to lock it in place?
Thanks for the comment and question. Yes, the fork is very stiff for kids. It is adequate but not like an air fork where you can customize the air pressure for kids and make it so they can actually use the travel. That is the reason we swapped it out later for a manitou j unit. Expensive but worth it for us
Hey I have a question I'm planning to buy the marin San Quentin 1
Should I wait for the 2022 version or is it better to buy it now
To my knowledge, they are carryovers from 2021, so no changes for 2022. So buy as soon as you can find one available! Fun bikes
@@BikingRoots thanks
@@abhinav6880 get the 2 if you can afford, saves you lots in the future...
Sir! What brand is your orange bike helmet?
7idp M5. It is an older one so I don’t think they make orange anymore unfortunately but maybe you can still find one. It was an inexpensive helmet that I liked. Good luck!
I love the sound of dads cassette lol. Would the SQ2 come stock like that?
Thanks, yeah sorry it was a bit loud. I wish the SQ2 did but unfortunately it doesn’t! Still a good value though
I see that I’m late to the party, but hopefully you can answer my question. I just ordered one of these for my soon to be 5 year old. I plan on replacing the fork to an air fork eventually, but it seems like the front hub will cause issues being that it is boost spacing. It seems like the only boost spacing fork I can find is the Machete Junit, and they are expensive, and nowhere to be found… so is the front hub actually a 15X110, or is it a standard dropout with an adapter?
Also, I saw you mentioned that you replaced your son’s with the Machete Junit 20. Did you get 120mm travel to maintain the same axle to crown height?
Thanks for the comment, apologize for the late reply. Congrats on getting a bike for your 5 year old! Yeah, so not a lot of options unfortunately and they are pricey as you mentioned. We went with a 100mm I believe (i’ll need to double check). The bike was a bit too slack and tall up front stock (in my opinion). Also we had to install a lower headset cup (to allow the tapered steerer) so that raised it up as well. I think it is pretty balanced now. My youngest is now riding it and having a great time (and the suspension actually works). Maybe you can find a used one. If not, let me know and I can possibly get one for you and ship it out to you. Thanks
@@BikingRoots yeah I have to agree on it being too slack and tall. The stack height is pretty crazy for a 20” bike. I received the bike yesterday, and it does look like the front hub was originally a 100mm qr, but fitted with a boost adapter. So I’ll probably end up putting a standard 100mm steel axle in with a 9mm skewer to open up some fork options. I’m looking at the Trailcraft TC30, Atlas 20 from Forth, or a Suntour air fork, although, the Suntour is my last choice, as it is a fixed rebound, and not adjustable. There’s also the Prevelo Heir fork, but it’s almost $500, so at that point I’d rather buy the Manitou.
I already ordered a new crankset for it. The 140mm cranks are way too long for his 19” inseam. There’s definitely a solid little trail bike in it, but it just needs some tweaks.
Sweet, congrats. Sounds like you are going to turn it in to a sweet little ride! Which cranks did you go with? We do get a lot of pedal strikes on ours (especially after we went to tubeless minions that weren't as tall as the stock tires). Some of it is rider error, but yeah most kid bikes have way too long cranks and they are always super hard to source aftermarket
@@jtrider3779Were you successful in changing the hub to non-boost? I’m in the same situation as you and trying to work out whether I should just bite the bullet and order the J-unit and a headset or I can save a few $$$ with a non-boost option (RST spex).
What's the weight on the Marin 20?
27 lbs w/out pedals. Not light but it is tough! Good amount of weight in the coil spring fork and also the chunky tires. On my sons bike we upgraded it to an air fork. Wasn’t cheap but took off a good chunk of up front weight.
Can you reverse the front brake lever and put it on the right side like a dirtbike? Or is their a kit I would need to do so?
Thanks for the question. Yes, you can just swap the brake lines and then give them a quick bleed.
Would you buy this one again? Is the gearing enough for the kids? Does the bike seem heavy?
Probably for the price but I wouldn’t rule out some Prevelos or wooms (usually more money though). The bike is pretty heavy due to chunky tires, fork was really heavy (we upgraded it later). Gearing was enough for our area. If you live in the mountains though, probably need a bit more but you can’t go too much more due to small wheel and derailleur hanger cage clearance.
@@BikingRoots there is a used one in my area and brand new for 399. I am looking at other options as well like the new specialized riprock. Bmc two stroke 499. The commencal meta because it matches my meta. And the commencal ramones. The nukeproof scout.
Hi, can you run bigger wheels on this bike as the kid grows?
Thanks for your comment and question. Unfortunately/fortunately not. The frame is designed around the wheel size so you’ll need to go to the San Quentin 24 or another 24” bike like the Bayview trail when he gets older. The good thing is the used market is usually pretty hot for good kid mountain bikes so you can usually get back most if not all of what you paid for at least in the current market due to shortages. Good luck!
Hola, muy lindo video. Consulta ¿que altura tiene su hijo? El mio 120 cm.
gracias por tu comento. Ese video se paso mucho tiempo. Ahora nuestro tesero hijo esta en este bici. El es mas o meno 120cm. 5-8 anos esta bien pro 20 san quentin. Buena suerte
Looks like a cool bike
Thanks, yeah he likes it. Wish I had that when I was 7!
Do you remember weight in this Marin
27 lbs without pedals. Not light but beefy and tough. good amount of weight in the coil fork. We upgraded my boy’s bike to an air fork which shed a couple pounds.
@@BikingRoots I’m looking for my sons first bike and been looking at this one. He is 6
Oh right on. Yeah it’s a pretty sweet bike for a 6 year old! My youngest is now on it and is enjoying it
Can I know the model of Osprey blue hydration backpack?
I believe it is the Mokey. We like them
How tall is your kiddo in this video?
Hey, sorry for the delayed response. Well, not sure actually how tall he was?! He unfortunately like me is short and he has short legs and a longer torso. He was I believe 7 when this video was shot. For a kit with shorter legs the San Quentin 20 is a bit of a struggle to get onto (my 6 year old still doesn’t fit). It has a pretty high standover and the 20” plus tires, while nice for traction, make it taller! If you’re able to go try one out and see how he gets on and off the bike, I’d recommend that. Good luck
@@BikingRoots hey man, how tall is your 6yr old? Its hard to test them here in syd for them bikes are direct sale and im not sure if there are lbs that sells them
yeah! 🤘
Is the fork air or coil suspension?
The fork is coil so heavy and doesn’t move too much (at least with my kid on our trails). We actually converted it since this video to a Manitou 20 J unit air fork which was pretty pricey unfortunately but way nice and smooth. You do have to install a lower EC 40 to the frame to accept the tapered fork since they don’t sell it as a straight steerer. I think Suntour may have a less expensive 20” air fork that could possibly work and save weight
Can u recommend full suspension bike under 3000$
Depending what you are looking to do but if you want a longer travel 160mm up front enduro, full squish 29er, the Alpine Trail is a popular and super fun bike at $2800. If you wanted less travel, the Rift Zone 2 or 3 trim in either 27.5 or 29” wheels are also great options with the 3 trims having better front and rear suspension and brakes. They run in the $2200-2900 range. We mainly sell Marin at this time so I am biased towards them, but there are lots of great bikes out there right now from many other brands… availability however in your size however can be super difficult! Good luck
@@BikingRoots thx u for details
"one-handed not adviseraahh" LMAO
Lol thanks!
Sweet bike! Bummer about your knee!
Thanks man! Hope you are doing well. I know… stupid knee (it’s the non surgery one that’s giving me trouble now)
What trail is this?
Cypresswood trail in Spring, area N. Houston. That one along with Cypress Creek (pretty close by) are popular ones in the area. Check them out!