@@BongMonsterIncexactly I feel they should save him as a big until after secret wars maybe for marvels 20 year anniversary once the multiverse is closed & all the new teams are formed
Knull is such an interesting and unique villain. I like your theory a lot. I hope they do something interesting with the kodex plot. Would definitely love to see Venom standing side by side with other heroes from the MCU.
I have an idea about what could go in Venom 3 and Spiderman 4. Venom and eddie are on the run from Knull and his army. During this time, they end up suriving the end of the final battle with the family they they traveled along with it. But it comes at a cost. Earth 688 (The SSU universe/timeline) gets destroyed and right before it gets destroyed. The pair meets vultrue from the mcu. He tells them about his world, and they realize hes from the same universe that they were in. Venom,eddie, and Vulture escape the to mcu to get help. Now, it's unclear how they escape into the mcu before their world goes. or what happens to morbius, but maybe he sacrifices his life or something like that to make a name for himself IDK. Anyway they arrive at the mcu, Vultrue helps them get spidermans attention and druing the movie. He finds the symbiote that eddie left in the mcu. They meet up, and Tom is probably shocked that vulture is standing right in front of him with another alien from another world thats also from another universe. Anyway, Venom and Tom go on an adventure throughout the multiverse. Vulture gets left behind to go find and reunite with his family. Anyway along the way, they might tobeys spiderman whos revealed to be a codex for knull aswell. They also meet up with andrew, and he gets the black suit, making him the third Spiderman to be introduced and become a codex for knull. The final battle wil ltake place on Madam webs world with the three spider girls, and they all team up and fight bad guys and hold off knull for now. They lose and madam webs world is also destroyed aswell with earth 688. (Madam Web is the only movie in the sonyverse to be in a different world, so it would at least make sense to fight there so they could destroy both the worlds that Sony created in thier trash universe.) And the fact the knull managed to break free and destroy 2 worlds would catch the attetion of the tva and spider society and then somehow the donald glover prowler from the mcu will get involved in some way. Idk i just made this up to maybe theorize about what could happen in these 2 movies. I could be wrong with a lot of things like vulture being in this film. But i feel like thats how they would do it. Idk, tell me below what you guys think about this and if i went down the rabbit hole too much with this?
I’m still wondering how Venom will go back to the MCU? Maybe the post credit scene will show us and that would lead to him appearing in Spider-Man 4 & Secret Wars
Spidey is supposed to get the black in Secret Wars not Spider Man 4. The plot sounds good but Sony dropped the ball with their whole Spider Verse thing. Just have to see what happens i guess.
Well yeah but spider man 4 will be on battle world, so it will happen during the secret war event technically if it’s not in the movie, he may also dawn the suit the whole spider man 4 movie plus secret wars
Yes, but you have to understand this has been known for 3 years yet we still call it the MCU, why? Simply because out of habbit. From 2008 to 2021, there was no multiverse so we're use to calling it MCU. I don't see this changing anytime soon because it's an abreviation that gets the point across to most people. MCU stands for Marvel Connected Movies, no one cares about semantics.
My marvel timeline: (the infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all me): --infinity saga-- 1. Iron man 2.iron man 2 3.Incredible Hulk 4. The consultant (*marvel one shot) 5. Funny thing happened (*) 6. Thor 7. Capt. America 8. Agent Carter (*) [@-Agent Carter] 9. Avengers 10. Item 47 (*) [@-Cloak and dagger] [@-Defenders saga] 11. Capt. America & winter soldier 12. Thor: dark world 13. Iron man 3 14. All hail the king (*) 15. Guardians of the galaxy 16. Avengers: age of ultron 17. Ant man 18. Capt. America: civil war 19. Black panther 20. Spider man: homecoming 21. Guardians of the galaxy 2 22. Dr. Strange 23. Thor: ragnarok 24. Infinity war 25. Ant man & the wasp 26. Capt. Marvel 27. Endgame ---after tony saga--- 28. Spider man: far from home 29. Thor: love and thunder 30. Falcon and the winter soldier 31. Black widow 32. Hawkeye 33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special 34. Guardians of the galaxy 3 35. Echo 36. Shang-chi 37. She hulk 38. Wakanda forever 39. Secret invasion 40. Moon knight 41. Werewolf by night 42. Wandavision --multiverse saga-- 43. Loki S1 44. What if S:1 45. Quantumania 46. Loki S:2 47. What if S:2 48. Madame web ($ Sonyverse) 49. Venom ($) 50. Into the spider verse ($) 51. Venom 2 ($) [%-Spider man 1-3] [%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2] 52. Spider man: no way home 53. Morbius ($) 54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness 55. Across the spider verse ($) 56. Ms. Marvel 57. The marvels [@-X-men 96] 58. X-men 97 [%-Fox X-men saga] 59. Deadpool 60. Deadpool 2 [%-Fox Daredevil] [%-Fox Punisher] [%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)] [%-Rise of the silver surfer] [%-Blade Trilogy] 61. Wolverine and Deadpool 62. The eternals I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline. I recently added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter as accompanying sagas; to the main timeline. I will add AOS, as soon as I can figure out when those episodes take place. Maybe even…the inhumans, legion and the runaways? The new mutants does not fit in the list. I just watched it and I can’t find any references to the list. Unreleased content as of 9/20/24: 1. Thunderbolts(€) 2. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 3. Agatha all along 4. Blade 5. Fantastic 4 6.Avengers Doomsday 7.Avengers Secret wars 8.Daredevil born again 9.Ironheart 10.Venom: The last dance 11.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 12.Marvel zombies 13.Kraven 14.eyes of wakanda 15.Xmen97 S:2 16.What if… S:3 €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline. %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch it, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Let me know what you think and enjoy the list! P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2. May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
@@thegarfieldtavius I’m as serious as a heart attack my guy, I saw the movie 4 times in the theater and own the movie physically on blu ray disc. I also own a Morbius T-Shirt that is inspired by the movie.
I think at the end of Venom 3 knull will show up. Venom will figure out that he can't stop knull by himself. He goes to the mcu to seek the avengers and spider-man. Spider-man doesn't agree with venom which makes them fight early on in spider-man 4. They then realize they need to team up against the greatest a great villain. I personally think should continue being around for awhile until he faces the avengers so they shouldn't kill him and rather find someway to trap him or stop him in a way to have him come back and be around for a few movies. I think they'll have him die in spider-man 4. Favorite Hero: Batman
Compared to the idea of SM4 being peter crossing over with Daredevil and taking on Kingpin, anything to do with Venom and Knull just sounds... so horribly uninteresting.
I'm not sure if there was a typo but when you looked up the cast for the movie it says that the Mexican bartender name is Eddie Brock which I find interesting
Yup this makes perfect sense. Spider-Man Home Sweet Home starts with a street level Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man that quickly gets attacked/recruited by Venom and eventually sets them up on Battleworld for Secret Wars.
“We” didn’t want them to interact. Sony’s Venom is not good. If this is happening, I can only hope Marvel fixes the character and makes him more watchable.
You know what they should do instead of trying to rush things: Spiderman 4 - street level with Blackcat, Daredevil, Kingpin, Scorpian, and Sinsiter Six. Avengers: Doomsday - Avengers lose. Multiverse collapses. Loki's defeated? Battleworld is created. Scarlet Witch - House of M. X-men are introduced. Mephisto is villain. Doctor Strange 3 - Doctor Strange vs. Nightmare or Mephisto or both. Mordo and Wanda return. World War Hulk - Avengers vs. Hulk. Wolverine vs. Hulk. Sentry vs. Hulk. Hulk vs. Thanos varient. Focuses on Bruce and Hulk's relationship. Venom: homeworld (not spiderman 5) - Andrew, Tobey, Tom, and Venom vs. Knull. Tom sacrifices himself and fuses with venom to set up Secret Wars. Avengers: Secret Wars - Avengers vs. Doctor Doom & Dark Avengers. The multiverse is restored, but a handful of universes remain. Just how I would do it off the top of my head. Let me know what you'd do. Interested in other ideas.
Knull is beyond Avenger level threat. How will they fit knull before secret wars??? As secret wars is basically the end of the Marvel multiverse. How will Avengers manage to face god emperor doom and knull at the same time??
That also means that Knull would need Tobey Macquarie because he had the venom Symbiote in him too. That would be amazing especially since he said it in No Way Home
Deadpool and Wolverine broke the established rules of how the multiverse works from Loki, it seems anything can happen no matter how illogical it is. I dunno if marvel/Sony even care if it makes sense.
Idc about anything, just make Knull an avengers level threat. Treat him better, he’s was made to balance out power with the beyonders. He’s a huge deal. Dont waste him. Make him fight the avengers. Follow the comics.
There's already a knull in the mcu tho. That's how the necrosword in thor love and thunder came to be. Its the first symbiote. If it's in the mcu, there's already a knull there.
They never confirmed that, they very strategically never linked God Butcher to Knull in those movies because they did not have permission by Sony to do so. This may be why.
@MashMalloman knull created the all black/necrosword. It is the first symbiote. If it exists, its creator exists. Knull is already in the mcu, he's just not known. And I never said gorr got it from knull.
@@ferilimp1It’s the MCU. In the comics, Knull created the necrosword. In the MCU it could be different. Remember, this isn’t 616. Things change drastically.
Now that I think about it though, this specific knull doesn’t have to be THAT strong and him being possibly defeated by being sealed or sent back to his dying universe isn’t that crazy tbh
I reckon Sony saw the success of Deadpool and Wolverine and thought a team up movie with Tom Hardys Venom and Tom Hollands Spiderman would do just as well so this is why they want to make Spiderman 4 a big team up movie
I think the idea of venom just "hopping into the mcu is rubbish, because how would he even get there without some cosmic force moving them. I think only way this would maybe work in my opinion is if this venom is sacrificed and eddie ends up the mcu to get help and he needs to obtain that final peace that was left behind to gain his power back and team up with spiderman ect.
Well also that is what happens, venom goes too the avengers in the venom comics for help so this is gonna be great I believe. People just gotta give it a chance
What if Knull absorbs the Venom symbiote and Eddie goes to 616 after finding out there is a bit left. That's how we get a new MCU Venom with the same actor. I'd rather have Tony Todd as the voice though.
A post credit scene in Venom or a opening scene in Spiderman 4, Knull seeking Tophers Venom symbiote. Which brings Toby McGuires Spiderman into things and we get the beginnings of the multiverse spiderman movie sony wants
Just like in Deadpool and Wolverine out of all the potential and known cameos nobody expected Blade to show up, I think something similar will happen in Venom 3 and it'll be a spiderman character but I dont think it'll be tom hollands spiderman.
My 1st choice is for Disney to buy back the film rights to all the characters Sony oversees. 2nd choice...Sony shuts down their Spidey operations...Hardy is in Venom 3, Tom Holland Spidey 4, and Secret Wars. We all good with #2? Sony can sell or keep funding the Spidey movies and getting paid for shutting up.
Honestly i don't see the chemistry between tom Holland Spider-Man and that venom because both have kinda immature behavior which is fine in Spiderman but not in venom
I like this plot though there's some obvious holes... like if Knull needs the Codex of all symbiotes, how does he get from Riot who was incinerated in the first film. Does getting the codex automatically mean he has to reabsorb all symbiotes? How does Venom get back to the main MCU? I've never known of a symbiote being able to leave a piece of themselves behind in another universe. I would have assumed that was a spawn and not a piece of himself. I haven't read comics is so long though I don't really know much about the symbiote source material beyond the start of Agent Venom and Anti-Venom.
I mean it's called the MULTIVERSE SAGA... Would have been nice to have a movie version of the current comic that's running with Venom as King in Black and different versions of himself working with him to stop Dylan from destroying the universe.
1). How are they just going to ‘jump universes’? 2). Holland’s Spidey has no allies and no connections to anyone. His next film will be grounded and meshed with Kingpin, Daredevil, etc.
Its not a bad idea...as long they do it and do it right unlike Venom: Let There Be Carnage. Especially with Tom Holland's Spider-Man 4 rumored title: Spider-Man: King in Black. Also I still say Tom Holland's Spider-Man 4 should be street level and I have great plot theories for this, the fifth and sixth movie if anyone is interested. And yeah, I do hope Sony does the right thing, which they probably won't, give all the rights back to the professionals..the MCU. Can't wait and love the MCU!!!
Yeah, but you make it sound like Eddy and Venom can just "decide" to hop the multiverse like they "decide" to hop in a car and take a road trip. They couldn't have known where they were or how they got there or what brought them back...essentially, it was a fluke. And what being in their universe has the ability to hop multiverses? ...I can't think of a single one. So it's a great theory, but has a big glaring hole in it. Fun to speculate though!
Do you think this deal has anything to do with the Spider-Man that got delayed? As in that movie is now allowed to add characters from the other franchise in their movie now?
SpiderMan, Venom and Avengers traveling the Spiderverse to fight Knull sounds fantastic
Fantastic? Hold on say that again
Knull deserves more storylines after Venom 3.
In my personal opinion they need to make 2 to 3 Knull movies to not have a dark phoenix kinda flop
@@BongMonsterIncexactly I feel they should save him as a big until after secret wars maybe for marvels 20 year anniversary once the multiverse is closed & all the new teams are formed
Supposedly he’ll come back cause the rumors are saying after secret wars Sony will merge with the MCU so it makes sense
@@DreDay53hopefully I want knull to meet sentry 😅🫣
I really hope knull was just introduced after secret wars. Sony really wants one last money grab lmao. Hope it works out
Knull is such an interesting and unique villain. I like your theory a lot. I hope they do something interesting with the kodex plot. Would definitely love to see Venom standing side by side with other heroes from the MCU.
I have an idea about what could go in Venom 3 and Spiderman 4. Venom and eddie are on the run from Knull and his army. During this time, they end up suriving the end of the final battle with the family they they traveled along with it. But it comes at a cost. Earth 688 (The SSU universe/timeline) gets destroyed and right before it gets destroyed. The pair meets vultrue from the mcu. He tells them about his world, and they realize hes from the same universe that they were in. Venom,eddie, and Vulture escape the to mcu to get help. Now, it's unclear how they escape into the mcu before their world goes. or what happens to morbius, but maybe he sacrifices his life or something like that to make a name for himself IDK. Anyway they arrive at the mcu, Vultrue helps them get spidermans attention and druing the movie. He finds the symbiote that eddie left in the mcu. They meet up, and Tom is probably shocked that vulture is standing right in front of him with another alien from another world thats also from another universe. Anyway, Venom and Tom go on an adventure throughout the multiverse. Vulture gets left behind to go find and reunite with his family. Anyway along the way, they might tobeys spiderman whos revealed to be a codex for knull aswell. They also meet up with andrew, and he gets the black suit, making him the third Spiderman to be introduced and become a codex for knull. The final battle wil ltake place on Madam webs world with the three spider girls, and they all team up and fight bad guys and hold off knull for now. They lose and madam webs world is also destroyed aswell with earth 688. (Madam Web is the only movie in the sonyverse to be in a different world, so it would at least make sense to fight there so they could destroy both the worlds that Sony created in thier trash universe.) And the fact the knull managed to break free and destroy 2 worlds would catch the attetion of the tva and spider society and then somehow the donald glover prowler from the mcu will get involved in some way. Idk i just made this up to maybe theorize about what could happen in these 2 movies. I could be wrong with a lot of things like vulture being in this film. But i feel like thats how they would do it. Idk, tell me below what you guys think about this and if i went down the rabbit hole too much with this?
I’m still wondering how Venom will go back to the MCU? Maybe the post credit scene will show us and that would lead to him appearing in Spider-Man 4 & Secret Wars
Spidey is supposed to get the black in Secret Wars not Spider Man 4. The plot sounds good but Sony dropped the ball with their whole Spider Verse thing. Just have to see what happens i guess.
Well yeah but spider man 4 will be on battle world, so it will happen during the secret war event technically if it’s not in the movie, he may also dawn the suit the whole spider man 4 movie plus secret wars
Tom Hardy officialy confirmed he won't play Venom after 'VENOM: THE LAST DANCE' He's done!
No, he said this will be the last venom movie. He never said he’s not playing Eddie as venom again
Wrong this will BE HIS LAST MOVIE. Not appearance.
@@raf686He told this is the last movie in trilogy and then he's "done" with Venom,so?
@@branislavbudis7499 yeah last venom movie. Not last appearance
@branislavbudis7499 no this is just the last movie with him. THIS has been confirmed already.
With the whole Multiversal crossover going on, I think we'll gonna call it the Marvel Cinematic Multiverse, also known as The MCM!!!
I mean with all old Marvel movies and shows shown to still exist in the Multiverse it makes sense
Yes, but you have to understand this has been known for 3 years yet we still call it the MCU, why? Simply because out of habbit. From 2008 to 2021, there was no multiverse so we're use to calling it MCU. I don't see this changing anytime soon because it's an abreviation that gets the point across to most people. MCU stands for Marvel Connected Movies, no one cares about semantics.
@@MashMalloman It's Marvel CINEMATIC Universe
@@MashMalloman actually Doctor Strange showed that there is a multiverse
My marvel timeline:
(the infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all me):
--infinity saga--
1. Iron man
2.iron man 2
3.Incredible Hulk
4. The consultant (*marvel one shot)
5. Funny thing happened (*)
6. Thor
7. Capt. America
8. Agent Carter (*)
[@-Agent Carter]
9. Avengers
10. Item 47 (*)
[@-Cloak and dagger]
[@-Defenders saga]
11. Capt. America & winter soldier
12. Thor: dark world
13. Iron man 3
14. All hail the king (*)
15. Guardians of the galaxy
16. Avengers: age of ultron
17. Ant man
18. Capt. America: civil war
19. Black panther
20. Spider man: homecoming
21. Guardians of the galaxy 2
22. Dr. Strange
23. Thor: ragnarok
24. Infinity war
25. Ant man & the wasp
26. Capt. Marvel
27. Endgame
---after tony saga---
28. Spider man: far from home
29. Thor: love and thunder
30. Falcon and the winter soldier
31. Black widow
32. Hawkeye
33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special
34. Guardians of the galaxy 3
35. Echo
36. Shang-chi
37. She hulk
38. Wakanda forever
39. Secret invasion
40. Moon knight
41. Werewolf by night
42. Wandavision
--multiverse saga--
43. Loki S1
44. What if S:1
45. Quantumania
46. Loki S:2
47. What if S:2
48. Madame web ($ Sonyverse)
49. Venom ($)
50. Into the spider verse ($)
51. Venom 2 ($)
[%-Spider man 1-3]
[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2]
52. Spider man: no way home
53. Morbius ($)
54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness
55. Across the spider verse ($)
56. Ms. Marvel
57. The marvels
[@-X-men 96]
58. X-men 97
[%-Fox X-men saga]
59. Deadpool
60. Deadpool 2
[%-Fox Daredevil]
[%-Fox Punisher]
[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)]
[%-Rise of the silver surfer]
[%-Blade Trilogy]
61. Wolverine and Deadpool
62. The eternals
I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline.
I recently added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter as accompanying sagas; to the main timeline. I will add AOS, as soon as I can figure out when those episodes take place.
Maybe even…the inhumans, legion and the runaways?
The new mutants does not fit in the list. I just watched it and I can’t find any references to the list.
Unreleased content as of 9/20/24:
1. Thunderbolts(€)
2. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
3. Agatha all along
4. Blade
5. Fantastic 4
6.Avengers Doomsday
7.Avengers Secret wars
8.Daredevil born again
9.Ironheart
10.Venom: The last dance
11.Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
12.Marvel zombies
13.Kraven
14.eyes of wakanda
15.Xmen97 S:2
16.What if… S:3
€-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine).
@-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline.
%-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch it, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos.
Let me know what you think and enjoy the list!
P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2.
May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
What if the avengers lose to knull? And what if knull stays in the mcu long enough to know about dr doom
Man I like Morbius & I hope we see him again but with a good story!
Same fr
Bro same, I freaking loved Morbius it was a fantastic film.
@@jterry9594 u better be joking
@@thegarfieldtavius I’m as serious as a heart attack my guy, I saw the movie 4 times in the theater and own the movie physically on blu ray disc. I also own a Morbius T-Shirt that is inspired by the movie.
@@jterry9594 you've got to be shitting me that movie is shit lol
We need venom in the MCU
I think at the end of Venom 3 knull will show up. Venom will figure out that he can't stop knull by himself. He goes to the mcu to seek the avengers and spider-man. Spider-man doesn't agree with venom which makes them fight early on in spider-man 4. They then realize they need to team up against the greatest a great villain.
I personally think should continue being around for awhile until he faces the avengers so they shouldn't kill him and rather find someway to trap him or stop him in a way to have him come back and be around for a few movies. I think they'll have him die in spider-man 4.
Favorite Hero: Batman
That shit ass
Compared to the idea of SM4 being peter crossing over with Daredevil and taking on Kingpin, anything to do with Venom and Knull just sounds... so horribly uninteresting.
Secret Wars will have Venom!!!!!
Knull vs Mephisto vs Sentry/Dr doom/Avengers/X-men/F4, What a time to be a Marvel fan!
Warren with another banger of a video
This would definitely help give the fans what we want! 👏🏻
Thank you for this video!
Tom Holland has said he wants the black suit. Looks like he will get his wish. This sounds awesom
This sounds pretty cool and exciting!! I’m totally open to it!! Seeing Eddie and Venom interact with the Avengers would be really cool!!
Venom can be the anchor of his universe
I'm not sure if there was a typo but when you looked up the cast for the movie it says that the Mexican bartender name is Eddie Brock which I find interesting
Yup this makes perfect sense. Spider-Man Home Sweet Home starts with a street level Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man that quickly gets attacked/recruited by Venom and eventually sets them up on Battleworld for Secret Wars.
“We” didn’t want them to interact. Sony’s Venom is not good. If this is happening, I can only hope Marvel fixes the character and makes him more watchable.
You know what they should do instead of trying to rush things:
Spiderman 4 - street level with Blackcat, Daredevil, Kingpin, Scorpian, and Sinsiter Six.
Avengers: Doomsday - Avengers lose. Multiverse collapses. Loki's defeated? Battleworld is created.
Scarlet Witch - House of M. X-men are introduced. Mephisto is villain.
Doctor Strange 3 - Doctor Strange vs. Nightmare or Mephisto or both. Mordo and Wanda return.
World War Hulk - Avengers vs. Hulk. Wolverine vs. Hulk. Sentry vs. Hulk. Hulk vs. Thanos varient. Focuses on Bruce and Hulk's relationship.
Venom: homeworld (not spiderman 5) - Andrew, Tobey, Tom, and Venom vs. Knull. Tom sacrifices himself and fuses with venom to set up Secret Wars.
Avengers: Secret Wars - Avengers vs. Doctor Doom & Dark Avengers. The multiverse is restored, but a handful of universes remain.
Just how I would do it off the top of my head. Let me know what you'd do. Interested in other ideas.
Knull is beyond Avenger level threat. How will they fit knull before secret wars??? As secret wars is basically the end of the Marvel multiverse. How will Avengers manage to face god emperor doom and knull at the same time??
this is actually amazing. even more so cuz we NEED and NEEDED phase 4 to cap w an Avengers film this could be it.
Funny the last dance promo video followed after the vid haha
That also means that Knull would need Tobey Macquarie because he had the venom Symbiote in him too. That would be amazing especially since he said it in No Way Home
FINALLY! SpiderMan vs. Venom.
I get more excited more and more every day!
Can't wait to see venom 3!
I hope there’s a Cletus Cassidy in the MCU
Deadpool and Wolverine broke the established rules of how the multiverse works from Loki, it seems anything can happen no matter how illogical it is. I dunno if marvel/Sony even care if it makes sense.
So does that mean Mrs Chen and Anne will also be targets than ? They’ve both had Venom bonded to them 😂
This is a nice plan. They should do a good job with it
Now this idea sounds good!!!!!
Idc about anything, just make Knull an avengers level threat. Treat him better, he’s was made to balance out power with the beyonders. He’s a huge deal. Dont waste him. Make him fight the avengers. Follow the comics.
That makes sense. You don’t wanna give away too much in venom three if he’s gonna be the main villain in Spider-Man four.
There's already a knull in the mcu tho. That's how the necrosword in thor love and thunder came to be. Its the first symbiote. If it's in the mcu, there's already a knull there.
They never confirmed that, they very strategically never linked God Butcher to Knull in those movies because they did not have permission by Sony to do so. This may be why.
Sony verse is part of the multiverse and theres only 1 Knull in the multiverse.
@MashMalloman knull created the all black/necrosword. It is the first symbiote. If it exists, its creator exists. Knull is already in the mcu, he's just not known. And I never said gorr got it from knull.
@@ferilimp1It’s the MCU. In the comics, Knull created the necrosword. In the MCU it could be different. Remember, this isn’t 616. Things change drastically.
I have heard the All Black suit theory, and it definitely makes sense.
I actually like this idea... I dig it.
Im excited for both of these movies
Cool
Awesome video
How ever we get a flight and than a team up via Spider-Man and Venmo would be awesome, I really like this I sure hope we get it 😊
knull needs to be a major threat so he kinda has to be in the next saga of the mcu, the question is how tbh he needs at least 2 films ab him
Now that I think about it though, this specific knull doesn’t have to be THAT strong and him being possibly defeated by being sealed or sent back to his dying universe isn’t that crazy tbh
sounds so goooood
Imagine knull and doom together, either one can use each other, or fight against each other
How can he even go back to mcu?
good writing.
plot.
Eddie and Venom journey is just beginning I got a feeling
I hope it continues in the mcu!
The piece of Symbiote, Venom and Eddie left behind in 616 holds the Codex... bet!
Seeing this movie tonight. I hope it isn’t a disappointment…
That puts Sam Raimi's Spiderman in danger as well...
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people want a boring villain like Kingpin LIKE THATS SO LAME. I honestly want to squeeze this multiverse stuff until it’s over.
Same here idk why everyone complaining
I mean, we all want Spider-Man to fight Kingpin in the MCU
@@invisibl3. You play Roblox you have no room to talk about this
Fisk is not a boring villain.
@@ultimatespider-man5170but he is a weak villain , he lost to Kate Bishop and Echo
I really hope they do the Knull story right
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I reckon Sony saw the success of Deadpool and Wolverine and thought a team up movie with Tom Hardys Venom and Tom Hollands Spiderman would do just as well so this is why they want to make Spiderman 4 a big team up movie
So its Boruto and Momoshiki basically
I think the idea of venom just "hopping into the mcu is rubbish, because how would he even get there without some cosmic force moving them.
I think only way this would maybe work in my opinion is if this venom is sacrificed and eddie ends up the mcu to get help and he needs to obtain that final peace that was left behind to gain his power back and team up with spiderman ect.
Well also that is what happens, venom goes too the avengers in the venom comics for help so this is gonna be great I believe. People just gotta give it a chance
What if Knull absorbs the Venom symbiote and Eddie goes to 616 after finding out there is a bit left. That's how we get a new MCU Venom with the same actor. I'd rather have Tony Todd as the voice though.
A post credit scene in Venom or a opening scene in Spiderman 4, Knull seeking Tophers Venom symbiote. Which brings Toby McGuires Spiderman into things and we get the beginnings of the multiverse spiderman movie sony wants
I have a good feeling about venom 3
Just like in Deadpool and Wolverine out of all the potential and known cameos nobody expected Blade to show up, I think something similar will happen in Venom 3 and it'll be a spiderman character but I dont think it'll be tom hollands spiderman.
My 1st choice is for Disney to buy back the film rights to all the characters Sony oversees.
2nd choice...Sony shuts down their Spidey operations...Hardy is in Venom 3, Tom Holland Spidey 4, and Secret Wars.
We all good with #2? Sony can sell or keep funding the Spidey movies and getting paid for shutting up.
That profile shot of Knull looks like Mickey Rourke.
You could have Knull attack the facility that captured the symbiop piece and spiderman intervenes, but it attaches to him at the end.
Damn
Imagine if tobey comes back in black again, if I see all three spidermen again I want them all to dawn black suits during this symbiote event
Makes sense
I like this plan
Imagine a post credit where Tom hollands Spider-Man gets the symbiote. Actually seeing that is a road to secret wars
Hulk in the thumbnail made me think there was news about him 😭
I want absolute carnage and king in black storylines in movies
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😢 i hope Madame web also joins the mcu
Honestly i don't see the chemistry between tom Holland Spider-Man and that venom because both have kinda immature behavior which is fine in Spiderman but not in venom
Not really sure how this is going to go down but Knull really needs a big build up
I like this plot though there's some obvious holes... like if Knull needs the Codex of all symbiotes, how does he get from Riot who was incinerated in the first film. Does getting the codex automatically mean he has to reabsorb all symbiotes? How does Venom get back to the main MCU? I've never known of a symbiote being able to leave a piece of themselves behind in another universe. I would have assumed that was a spawn and not a piece of himself. I haven't read comics is so long though I don't really know much about the symbiote source material beyond the start of Agent Venom and Anti-Venom.
Knull deserves his own phase
Apart from Spiderman Venom, I want to see another character superhero and super villain with a simbiot.
I like this theory
It would be great if Eddy and Venome evacuated from their universe because of the incursion. But I don't think Marvel won't go that far.
Deadpool and venom❤
Sony verse is gonna have an older peter parker become Spidey like the new ultimate. In the comics
I mean it's called the MULTIVERSE SAGA... Would have been nice to have a movie version of the current comic that's running with Venom as King in Black and different versions of himself working with him to stop Dylan from destroying the universe.
Pretty silly for knull not to beable to make his suit with out a little piece of symbiot
1). How are they just going to ‘jump universes’?
2). Holland’s Spidey has no allies and no connections to anyone. His next film will be grounded and meshed with Kingpin, Daredevil, etc.
Everyone still remembers spiderman it’s Peter they don’t remember
Its not a bad idea...as long they do it and do it right unlike Venom: Let There Be Carnage. Especially with Tom Holland's Spider-Man 4 rumored title:
Spider-Man: King in Black. Also I still say Tom Holland's Spider-Man 4 should be street level and I have great plot theories for this, the fifth and sixth movie if anyone is interested. And yeah, I do hope Sony does the right thing, which they probably won't, give all the rights back to the professionals..the MCU. Can't wait and love the MCU!!!
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Yeah, but you make it sound like Eddy and Venom can just "decide" to hop the multiverse like they "decide" to hop in a car and take a road trip. They couldn't have known where they were or how they got there or what brought them back...essentially, it was a fluke. And what being in their universe has the ability to hop multiverses? ...I can't think of a single one. So it's a great theory, but has a big glaring hole in it. Fun to speculate though!
Though basically we just want this for Sony to let marvel write the great stories with Sony in charge of distribution of the movies.
I told you it's gonna be oikethe comics!
Bruh musta said Makes sense at least 100 times this video 😅
Do you think this deal has anything to do with the Spider-Man that got delayed? As in that movie is now allowed to add characters from the other franchise in their movie now?
Yeah definitely Spider-Man 4 is really going to be another screwed up movie from Sony smh
better than having a boring movie with kingpin and daredevil
@@invisibl3.Nah man. You have no idea how many people want to see that.
@@invisibl3.thats not boring 😂
I think he’s overlooking a major issue…
How is he supposed to cross the into the universe 😂