Arrest For Not Engaging With Police AKA Silent treatment
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I gave details and got let go straight away. Didn't fancy cells
It bullshit that section is getting abused now. Are you planning on suing?
@pinac-audit yep 100 percent. Claim getting sent soon.
Get on to your solicitor ash, you were arrested because you didn’t respect his authority and ego
Should of let him take u in just to see what the clowns tried to charge u with. The longer ur in the bigger the claim.
@@AshPhillipsyou got details of the officer? Would love to swamp him with complaints.
The law states you have the right to remain silent. If you can do that to the police then you do it with anyone. End of story.
Apparently, it's now anti-social to remain silent. Funny that, it used to be a right in this country. The Police Officers who do this need to be prosecuted in court every time for malfeasance in a public office, regardless of how your solicitor wants to proceed. If your solicitor won't prosecute, then represent yourself in court, and call all parties as witnesses, especially the ignorant workers, as it's the only way that they'll learn the law.
As other people have said case law =Rice v. Connolly (1966) is an English legal precedent holding that there is no strict, general legal duty to assist a police officer prior to any possible arrest or caution, with even basic police enquiries nor to accompany the officer to a requested location. = equals false arrest.
they should be fired for abusing those powers...
its a crime now to be anti social ?? wtf ?
Sue !! Unlawful arrest ! Utterly ridiculous !!
HNK solicitors need to be on this case. The police are just silly nowadays.
Your under arrest for being silent , you have the right to remain silent .
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Threaten me? ATTACK me? Try to put ME in chains, kidnap and throw ME into a cage, for ENJOYING my Rights?
That's the precise moment this Govt. *MOBSTER* (And any of his cohorts, should they be present and choose to attempt the same), will hear the business end of the Second Amendment.
Try it. Play those 'FAFO' games against THIS Citizen/USMC Veteran.
I f*cking dare him/them.
You have the right to remain silent until you can speak to a lawyer and he can speak for you. Carry are card stating- I have a right to remain silent, please appoint a lawyer for me so that he can speak for me.
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No worries mate just read some of his palm!!!!!😮
Three police cars turn up on flashing lights for a guy acting lawfully. The police are not understaffed.
Probably hitting 80mph in a 30 to get there too.
It’s easier than fighting crime.
Being saying it for years, total myth that the filth are undermanned.
But clearly un or inadequately trained.
'I'm not really sure what the issue is..' there wasn't one till plod made a tit of himself.
oh please sue him personally. he obviously doesn't know his job..so he doesn't deserve it
He wears the uniform of power so he doesn`t need to know his job. Same as the other wearer`s of the uniform of power.
Dear copper....please articulate my anti social behaviour???
Unlawful force and arrest. Assault and battery,
Arrested for not speaking then told :-
“You do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”
Excellent 👍
How can being silent be considered antisocial.... Lawsuit and a sacking!
Yeah I feel sorry for mutes.
I don’t know. The test is supposed to be if it alarms or distresses a person “of reasonable firmness”. It’s not just “being silent”; it’s filming outside the business AND being oddly silent and refusing to engage when approached by the staff. The employees looked a little alarmed, but what’s the case law?
@@JonCookeBridgethe employee has no right to demand information or even to approach a member of the public. What are you taking about? Are you really suggesting that I can get people arrested because I don't like their demeanor even though I may have engaged with them without any suggestion they wanted me to? 🤔
@@MrGhostTube When did I suggest that? I’m simply asking what’s the case law for whether acting socially strangely outside a business while filming and not engaging constitutes a public order offence. The Law says “a person of reasonable firmness being harassed, alarmed or distressed”, but that’s pretty ill-defined so there’s bound to be case law.
@@JonCookeBridgewell your honour he was being oddly silent, so I nicked him
Anti social behavior conducted by the police.
CORRUPT WOKE COP!
and the staff who approached him and put their hands about his person
@Petey194 true putting their hands so close to his lens is threatening and an invasion of his personal space and should be seen by any judge as assault on Ash directly.
They should also loose thier jobs they where on a public street not at their place of work which was across a public road.
*Police Reform Act 2002* Section 2
(1)If a constable in uniform has reason to believe that a person [has engaged, or is engaging, in anti-social behaviour] ..., he may require that person to give his name and address to the constable.
(1A)In subsection (1) “anti-social behaviour” has the meaning given by section 2 of the Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014 (ignoring subsection (2) of that section).
*Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014*
*Section 2* Meaning of “anti-social behaviour”
(1)In this Part “anti-social behaviour” means-
(a)conduct that has caused, or is likely to cause, harassment, alarm or distress to any person,
(b)conduct capable of causing nuisance or annoyance to a person in relation to that person's occupation of residential premises, or
(c)conduct capable of causing housing-related nuisance or annoyance to any person.
So what evidence does the cop have that standing at the side of the road carrying out a lawful activity has caused or is likely to cause, harassment, alarm or distress to any person?
Certainly, there is no possibility of conduct capable of causing nuisance or annoyance to a person in relation to that person's occupation of residential premises since nobody is residing in the industrial premises, so subsections b, and c do not apply.
In fact, the only ones breaching section 2 of the Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014 were the ones milling around the photographer in an intimidating manner holding their paws up to his camera.
The arresting officer appears to be in breach of section 26 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015.
*Corrupt or other improper exercise of police powers and privileges*
(1)A police constable listed in subsection (3) commits an offence if he or she-
(a)exercises the powers and privileges of a constable improperly, and
(b)knows or ought to know that the exercise is improper.
(2)A police constable guilty of an offence under this section is liable, on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 14 years or a fine (or both).
The arresting officer is unfit to be employed in the police force and should be terminated after this unlawful and ridiculous arrest.
now you obviously dont understand law
Aren’t our police absolutely terrible, abusing his powers, we need this kind of clown dismissed from the police service.
Why would you want to talk to a friend of Wayne Couzens, abuse of power should be a sackable offence ! The foreign guy that phoned the police seems to have more rights than a British person, These company`s get more protection than any member of the public because the bosses get looked after .
Wow how uneducated do you have to be, that is totally disgraceful behaviour, 3 police cars and not one officer said he is doing nothing wrong, so if you say nothing it will be held against you 😡😡😡😡😡
This type of officer should never be a police officer they are more suited to flipping burgers A complaint should be followed up
Are you implying that because this cop is corrupt ,has no idea on how to carry-out his duties correctly and is basically a rude and demanding person while on duty , only has the skills for " flipping burgers " ? That is an insult to the hard-working , honest and polite people who deal respectfully with the public , and this cop clearly shows he has none of those qualities. I say he is perfectly suited for what the top brass consider needed to be a tyrant and treat innocent people in the way they do. Trash !
He can be a writer because he made up a dramatic story from nothing.
Flipping burgers takes knowledge and working for your wages, neither of which is applicable to this 🐷
If you dont want to be filmed why would you walk up to the guy holding the camera?
Hello, Police, there's a silent man here with a camera.
What do you want us to do?
Arrest him.
Why?
For doing nothing.
Some people are plain barmy.
The copper should be disciplined and retrained and conpensation paid
What a joke 3 police cars respond to this, but when I got chased by a traveller with a knife absolutely no one responded
They are scared of travellers, but not a man with a camera.
There will come a time when they will be scared of the public !
Asking 'do you have the ability to speak?' might not be a super smart question.
"arrested on suspicion of not giving your details" that's a new one
The money from lawsuits should come out of that specific constabulary budget. That would start slowing them down.
I agree if they sue the Policeman and not the force it would stop all of this
You can. After a legal prosecution, I believe you can bring a civil claim for compensation against the particular Police Constable, but I think you have to wait 6 months to bring it, due to legal complications caused by 2 separate legal claims. Also, with civil claims, your only legal cost are about £50, and the other benefit is that the Police Constable cannot use the Police Force's solicitors to defend their civil claim, because their legal liability doesn't cover any behaviour that isn't considered to be acting within their Police powers as a Police Constable.
3 police cars, for a person with a camera, disgusting, are there no crimes, going on.
They don’t know how to do real police work. Abuse the public is all they can do.
Criminalising a legal activity, thank you for showing us the unfortunate state of our police.
And normalising criminal activity!! i.e. theirs!!
Does anyone else believe that the British police have far to much power as they can make a crime out of anything it's going to end up walking down to the shops is an arrestable offence even if someone is not making a sound it's antisocial behaviour are you fuckin kidding me. If you think that you are free, think again
With the disgustingly poor standards of policing in the UK we're totally screwed already.
And that is why we need to defend ourselves from these domestic terrorists.
And that is why we need to defend ourselves from these domestic terrorists.
And that is why we need to defend ourselves from these domestic terrorists.
I think some of these clowns actually think it’s their job to bully members of the public.
Did he actually say, 'You are under arrest for suspicion of not giving your details.'??
3 coppers for this ? Meanwhile my mate's stolen motorbike remains unrecovered and the thieves at liberty. This is why people get angry, no one cares about a bloke with a camera,what a waste of time . I assume this is easier for them than catching crims. God help us all.
The tyrant police officer messed up big time obviously there'll be a civil claim going in, the money won't come out of his pocket but it's still a black mark on his record. 21:23
Section 50 needs to go !
Agreed, it sneaks around human rights to privacy.
Arrested for not being unconsentually dominated
That cop was dropped on his head at the police academy. It is the only thing that explains his actions.
He could also have been bullied at school.
Did I detect a 'communist accent' from the guy wearing the orange jacket and green helmet?
Definitely foreign accent
The police geezer said "You are shaking", I wonder why. Could it be that the multitude of people walking up to Ash putting their hands in his face, threatening him with the police may have caused him distress. The only people in this video committing crimes are the factory workers and the copper with the threat of a section 50 and illegally obtaining Ash's details under threat of arrest. Well done Ash, you got them good Mr !
The problem is that when you sue it’s relatively small sums they pay out. If they were really massively hit financially it would soon be filtered out by senior officers that the constables on the street really need to fallow the law due to the financial implications to that constabulary.
This is worrying. When police can arrest you for not engaging with them, or showing them your identification when you are going about your lawful business, it becomes a police state.
At first smiling then his ego gets the better of him, cannot say nothing when he is asking you questions, its not allowed, anti social behaviour for not speaking
What is antisocial behaviour?
There are three main categories for antisocial behaviour, depending on how many people are affected:
Personal antisocial behaviour is when a person targets a specific individual or group.
Nuisance antisocial behaviour is when a person causes trouble, annoyance or suffering to a community.
Environmental antisocial behaviour is when a person’s actions affect the wider environment, such as public spaces or buildings.
So scary that you can be arrested on someone else fears and feelings ... so if I was walking down an alleyway and there was a gang of youths standing at the end, then I can call the police out of "fear for my safety" and have them all I'D, searched and arrested ???
The second guy appeared to be doing his best impersonation of a famous salute from the Early-mid20th Century...! 😏
And yet i still have people i work with defending these idiots
Which idiots are you referring to ? - Idiots that you've never met, and therefore cannot form an opinion of, because you only know anything about them from what you see in RUclips videos of them I presume ?
no wounder people hate the plod, one sided crap, they caused more distress with their approach
There is no obligation to speak or assist the police unless there is an offence.
Anti social behaviour requires more than one occasion.
Standing and filming in a public place can in no way be considered as anti social.
The only exception would be for example filming through a domestic residence window.
This is a slam dunk as filming in public without any conversation or action likely to cause distress.
Refusing to engage with another person therefore cannot be anti social . he also failed to qualify what behaviour he was alleged to have committed that was potentially antisocial
And an ex police officer this is rediculous and today it seems many officers are poorly trained and don’t have a clue
Why do they keep walking up to the camera not wanting to be filmed...thick as two short planks..be better off going to buy a bucket of steam or some sky hooks
Sec26, straight away, common law do not have to speak or assist in there enquiries
It would be a joke if it wasn’t for the stupid police. Three police cars, have they nothing better to do like stopping crime crazy?
Policeman's anti social behaviour....
There is an ACPO has issued a new letter to all police forces about public photography
You do NOT have the right to remain silent in modern Britain
No, you're right, we don't, but neither do we have to risk incriminating ourselves by speaking without legal representation, while not knowing our legal rights. I would keep my solicitors' name and phone number written in ink on my arm, to be used to contact them, when I'm at the Police station, but before I'm interviewed under Caution. We are also under no obligation to assist the Police with their enquiries. Rice vs Connelly 1966, plus at least 4 others since then.
Silent audits are my favorite, lets the cops talk themselves into a hole for a change.
The SILENT TREATMENT...... Wonderful. Absolutely Wonderful 🙂😂😂❤❤
The difference between a police state and not a police state is this. In a police state you have to engage with the police. In a country that is not a police state you do not have to engage with the police. Simple, but very, very important. In this offficers mind he works in a police state due to his absense of understanding of law. There should be no place for an officer like this in the police service. He should be removed from having any contact with the general public. We must prevent our country becoming a police state. If we ignore interactions like this we jeopardize our long held, protected, and cherished freedoms.
How do you intend to prevent it from becoming a Police state ? - Walking around in groups of 10,000 or more, so that we outnumber the Police wherever we go ? - I bet the Police would just mobilise the Army to disperse us if we all did that. You can't win against tyranny, without having an Army of your own, with weapons and be willing to kill people. We might as well have Anarchy.
Even if it is antisocial, who the h3ll says that we need to be “social” anyway?
Walks/stands in front of a camera and exclaims I don’t want to be filmed…
For any auditor out there if ya not willing to take the arrest to prove your point. Give up auditing
I bet that copper has a right stroppy tantrum when his boyfriend gives him the silent treatment for not giving him his bum fun
I suspect he's a receiver, not a giver.
He defo gets the reach round..
Methinks you protest to much. Just like the cops who gay bash at night when on duty. Sigmund Freud has both your types diagnosed.
If you have the right to remain silent after arrest you have it prior to arrest. Being arrested does not confer extra rights it typically removes them. I guess logic isn't required in todays police force.
Sec 50 was designed to aid the cops circumvent human rights. That's why it needs to GO!
3 cars with pc plod in. Disgraceful. When the police are "so busy" to investigate actual crimes like burglaries, muggings, knife crime,
As one of the countries with the most CCTV cameras do I have to wear a T shirt saying "I do not give permission to be filmed"
Another, addictive cop who is desperate to get private details. Abuse at its best.
It's just a way to help the business out by getting Ash out the area, after all police work for organisations -- not for us. Sec 35 ,a dispersal order is being misused currently to move people on......
so you are antisocial ...erm you have the right to remain silent... but that is antisocial...SUE
That officer is lying and knows it just desperate to know your details. Typical cop and they wonder why they are hated misuse of power
The business wanted Ash gone, a sec 50 achieved that goal. I doubt it's got much to do with wanting ID. Sec 35, basically a dispersal order, is currently in more regular use as a way to shunt people off out the way, just like sec 50.
Where's the crime? Arrested to get your details. Power misuse. Disgraceful
That's what sec 50 is, arrested for not proffering ID. They just make up a bogus disorderly charge,
Arrested for being silent.. "you have the right to remain silent..Oh hold on a minute.."
What I don't get, is if they are SO concerned that he "hasn't got permission to film me", then WHY on EARTH walk UP TO THE CAMERA giving him a BETTER VIEW ? ? ?
Stealing other people's audits and droning on like a boring bastard who's had a Charisma by pass operation.
Grasping at straws the police just can’t stand being ignored
So, if you were deaf&dumb you'd get arrested for being anti social ?
Why do all police have a "section" they can charge folks with when there is no actual crime??
Just think how much of a better place the world would be if people minded their own business.And I thought you had the right to remain silent,is it not the very first of the miranda rights?This copper didn't arrest Ash because he was breaking the law,he arrested him because he was butt-hurt Ash was'nt talking to him.
We don't have the miracle da rights in the uk. It was explained what laws were available to the filmer
if your doing this sort of thing you HAVE to stand by your convictions cells or not. You would get a pay out anyway for wrongful arrest. poor by you🤐
Before we were overcome with Health and Safety logic, some bloke , in the old days, would have come out, told the photographer he might get run over and then vanished! Or he may have been ignored completely! As for the police.......clueless! I'm with you....some Section 26 arrests need to take place. Probably won't happen but one can hope!
A tyrant abusing his position.
As usual.
Its all about EGO with cops that dont know the law
He fancies himself as a 'Good looking chap' I think beauty is subjective. Horse leaps to mind.
You got it right mate. The whole country is screwed.
The right to remain silent ill never talk to them ever
They started using section 50 over section 43 because of the crap they were getting from the bosses. Nothing about standing still and not speaking is antisocial behaviour.
S44 was repealed because of abuse, so they switched to S43. Bad publicly meant they were told to back off on this. Now, they have turned to misusing S50.
They are toying with sec 35 at the moment, a dispersal order ,basically.
The first part of being arrested "you have the right to remain silent!"
Not for over 20 years, I'm afraid. It was replaced by a much more sinister Caution, which is designed to treat you as Guilty until proven Innocent, unfortunately.
@@NomadicNightRice Vs Connolly act overrides it.
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I know he wants footage, and to show them up, but I wouldn't make a good auditor because both men assaulted him. There would be a ruckus if they had done the same to me!
They are out of control and grasping at straws to pull em in and ID them
'' suspect you being involved in anti social behaviour'' Heard it all now. Surely a Slam Dunk Claim.
We need to get these idiots in front of a jury let them explain to them their actions otherwise nothing will change.
people think those fluorescent jackets hold some weight 😂😂
so what happened? Most likely folded like a deckchair once in handcuffs;-)) That's the trouble with wanabee auditors, a good auditor would have kept the film running even if only the sound.
the misuse of section 50 is widespread and very sinister. I do hope a claim is made. If enough people do things might change, though perhaps it's the police's own pockets that need to take the hit.
Unfortunately, I believe that all that will happen will be that those particular Police Forces will just ask for larger budgets each year, under some false pretext.
Rice vs Connolly act 1966 overrides and legislation like section 50 you are not obliged to help the police in anyway shape or form whatsoever.
I just love these clowns who approach auditors and tell them that they have don't give their permission ....they , like most coppers, just haven't got a clue !!
Why dont they catch burglers? because of cowardice
Lawfare where the process is the punishment is being used against innocent people ever more. This will almost certainly get thrown out, but not before being arrested and held in solitary confinement for up to 24 hours, often they'll then impose restrictive bail conditions to further punish the innocent person preventing them from continuing their lawful activity before the case it eventually dropped, since I believe often the police know there's no case, but continue along this path anyway, it makes them the criminals, sometimes it will even go as far as court and the police will often blatantly lie if they believe they can get away with it (perjury), that's why video evidence is so important.
What if you were a "mute" which is an anxiety condition? That's despicable that anyone would treat anyone for not saying anything, like this. Bloody muppets........
Correct. Mutism is a relatively common aspect of Autism.
You went through all of that and then caved at the most important moment
What a waste of time
It's very easy for you to say that, but he was one man against 3 corrupt Police officers, and 3 employees, all willing to lie about him. That was obviously the first Managers' intent, when the first Manager with glasses spoke, earlier on in the video. All tyrants.
Did he said your under suspicious of not giving me your details?