As someone who started at the end of vanilla, life has changed for me. I have a family and career now so I can’t invest as much times as I used to but I still enjoy playing the game. Glad to see more option for casual solo players. Love raiding but that’s a time sink I can no longer participate in. Glad to hear they’re doing a solo raid story mode as I like tuning in to the lore as well. The icing on the cake Solo Bgs. God know how long I wanted this option
Note, if you’ve played Classic, you’d see it actually is the most casual friendly experience. Around MoP they started over-inflating encounter complexity and chasing daily engagement metrics. SoD was an extremely casual friendly experience that they killed for the streamer crowd. You can clear Heroic Raids in WotLK and Cata with a casual Dad guild and only doing 4 hours of raiding a week.
@@kendro1200 it's the most casual friendly experience if you enjoy leveling, for end game casual content retail is still king. clearing retail raids pugging has been easier in my experience compared to cata/wotlk classic, the only exception being wotlk naxxramas
Wait and see how it turns out. I was also really excited for solo arena, turns our yoy are having 30min+ ques. Noone with a job has time for this madness
I am 45 now and have played the game since its release. If they can nail delves and the solo-rated BGs, this game will surely be saved. Warbands are another great addition because I don't want to play an alt and have to relevel all secondary reputations. With a family and full-time job that keeps my play time much lower, it's the only path forward for me.Time will tell if this all works, but it's my last chance to give them before I move on.
Make honor level gear be the max level gear in unrated pvp (ie regular bgs & epics). That would encourage new players and casuals to stick around in pvp.
keep up the good work man. your literally the only warcraft guy i watch. speaking of the player base getting old, i started playing world of warcraft the very first week it ever came out. and here i am years and years later. cant wait for the war within!
I'm going to show my age here, but back in the day Shaman was the only class with Lust. Now there are a couple 4 others that have it. When we were the only ones that had it we did get invited to 5 man dungeons, because there was a reason to bring us. In the current meta you will invite a mage over an Ele shaman 10/10 times because there is nothing that the shaman brings that is unique and the mage is better DPS and brings an int buff. If you want to make all specs viable for mythics they have to be 1 of 2 things either unique in their own buff or a duplicate in DPS and buffs as another class. In this example the shaman would need an int buff and the same DPS to be interchangeable with the mage or bring something that the mage doesn't bring like a Crit buff. As long as there are classes / specs that bring something unique like Mark of the Wild, Int Buff, Stam Buff, or health stones they will always be preferred in mythics. Every season same thing Druid, Mage, and Priest are penciled in and Lock is usually pretty solid. This is what Blizzard needs to change.
Hi Supa. Being our frontline PvP streamer and guide, and being someone who is directly associated with Blizzard being commentator for AWC, it is my request that you can kindly take the basic need changes to Blizzard and help revamp the PvP system. These can be as follows: 1. SoloQ Blitz which is a 8v8 SoloQ RBG needs to have different rating and title achievements and not the same as 10v10 RBGs, on the similar lines that SoloQ Arena has different title achievement of Legend compared to 3v3 Arena Gladiator 2. All the four modes, need to have its own mount reskin as we get for Gladiator 3. Blitz and RBG players also get Seasonal titles like Draconic Hero of the Horde, but this goes into the bin in the feats of strength tab and players who earned the Hero title in Cata S1 have the same title as that player who earned it last season in Dragonflight!! This is just a minor tweak but can instantly incentivize lot of players... 4. All of us PvPers have tons of vicious saddles laying waste in our inventories, this needs to be changed. We should be able to use them to get any legacy mount, or armor/weapon skins or just say 50k gold per saddle 5. In the War Within Beta, we see Honor is getting transferred to Alts at 80%!! Like why? When everything else is account bound, then so should be Honor and Conquest...there should not be any taxes... 6. If Normal and Heroic Dungeons or Raids award Gold to players, then Normal BGs should also award gold... if M+ can award Gold or Gear then Blitz and RBGs should also award Gold and/or Gear token... If you can get these points addressed, then PvP will get revamped in real sense with a massive surge of participation as both casuals and elites will get incentivized and motivated to participate more, resulting in more revenue for Blizzard as well as more viewers/subscribers/followers for frontline streamers like you... Thanks Sunny
I like where they are taking it. It has been a while since i've felt this level of excitement going into a new expansion since Wotlk. So many new things are being added and improved I feel like the game is going to expand and have a new feeling to it.
Class balance is the exact reason, as an enhance shaman, I switch between classic and retail often. Retail keeps disappointing me and I keep going back to classic for where I like the playstyle of enhance more.
Blizzard can "say" anything that they want to. Given how the game overall has been treated over the years it comes down more to actual change over time. Blizzard can always do one good thing and then 10 bad ones. Until these so called lessons that they learned are put in and experienced over time then it all means nothing.
All love for Legion, but it seems like everyone forgets that you were initially stuck to one weapon/specialization with a ginormous grind. That truly felt awful to try and switch.
I think they should redo the entire quest system for old zones. If they made it more of a streamlined story through out the expansions, I feel like it would give newer players more of a sense of what’s going on. In my opinion, there’s to much to do for a new player to really even start to like the game to begin with.
Mythic plus by design and to make it work needs the fail the key and therafor wasting it. that is integral to the evergreen nature of M+. SoloShuffle is easy to grief and waste your key. that would be a nightmare. While arena and BG you can just queue again you cant really do that in M+, not in the same day
Yea, a lot of us are "old" now. I've been playing WoW a long time, most of the ppl I played with aren't playing anymore. Times have changed, life has changed and I feel like Blizzard set a standard but then never evolved itself when it needed to as times were changing. For the longest time, WoW was the game other games trying to emulate. For me to keep to playing (atm I a not), the game needs more casual, stress free, easy to get into/out of, easy to understand that doesn't take hours of build up to enjoy the "good parts". I'm over the old questing system and feel it's extremely outdated. I can't keep up with it when I do subscribe for a month or two then take a break.
I cannot play RGB as a resto druid because healing is always going to use MW and Pres/Disc. Its the only bracket that i enjoy and i had been 2400 in it. I cannot even get into 1600 games. So most of the time i just sit in the game maybe do 2 solo q. Maybe play some 3s for like 3 games til it disbands.. I want to experience solo rgb and if its not helping me then its time for me to lay wow to rest lol
My biggest problem ia why they take a month or months to balance pvp? Firsr season of DF they were doing such great job every 2-3 weeks of tuning and after ret rework disaster it's almost like they just stopped. Tired of seeing same classes on AWC over and over because they don't wanna buff other specs or nerf those op ones. On top of that, SoloQ queues are just crazy and there Is no punishment for quitters. A healer can join in 2 minutes, go 0-3 and quit without much problems while dps goes back to a 30-40 minutes queue. I will not believe blizzard until I see them constantly listening to feedback and trying to improve pvp. Next expansion better see more than 1 new arena map and more than 1 new bg (took them for too long for a new bg). I know pvp community is small but I am sure if they neglect it they are still going to lose money
I think a lot of the reason Blizz stuck with some of the stupidest ideas, such as conduit power and locked into covenants, was that certain individuals higher up forced it because changing it would have cost them some money. Now that those individuals are gone things are changing.
As someone who started playing wow for less than a year I can tell you the new player experience is absolutely horrid. It felt like a job trying to learn all of this stuff. And I just like to PVP. Well it takes literal days of grinding just to get a character leveled to play arenas. Then theres all the gearing, weak auras, learning abilities, UI. I would never recommend this to a new player. They need to make everything 100x more streamlined if they want new players.
I want to come back so badly, but I'm just so fcking lost on the storyline. What are we even doing anymore? I got busy around Warlords of Draenor and since then the story has just been this confusing spiderweb. If I could do like a 2 hour video of where the hell the world is now, I'd probably be able to come back and have purpose as to why I'm playing this zone or quest line.
I have only played WoW since the end of Draenor and Ian keeps saying similar buzzwords every time. Remember when he claimed that they had a ripcord to eliminate the lock of the covenants and that was what everyone keep saying, "pull the ripcord", ie don't lock people into covenants because it takes away choice, but they didn't listen and then what happened? The community hated the covenant systems for the most part. At this point, I wonder what the game would look like without Ian, maybe that is change that needs to be tried.
I have zero desire to play retail any longer, the combat and class design has just declined and gone in a direction so far from what i used to love about pvp gameplay and class design. ( too much self healing, too much mobility, too high of health pools, mana doesnt matter, every single target ability now cleaves because of pve reasons.. cc is completely different from what it used to be, damage outside of cooldowns isnt meaningful and we just keep getting more and more 30s-1min cds which makes your core abilities feel unimpactful outside of these cooldowns) just a few examples.
I don’t get the design going so hard on the aoe design for mythic plus like if you want that more meat grinder gameplay just give Diablo or dynasty warriors a suss
Game balance is so so cruicial. ( how many people stopped playing because of Ret been out of control in season 2 and then Demon hunters then in season 3. Incompetent devs.
Ret was out of controle at the end of s2 and not even for that long. After the overnerf of ret other classes became iut of controle again for a whole season.
Oh wow is def dead already... but you see the thing is...we kinda destroyed the afterlife with that last xpac... so that's when things get weird about death....
love your videos, they're getting me really hyped for the new expansion! could you consider making a video on your philosophy around keybinds? I'm always overwhelmed with playing alts seriously because of all the different abilities, now more so than ever 🥲
Using music as a comparison is rough, as music is purely about taste not generation. Wow's number one issue is the inherently toxic player base, as an example if you get into an easy going group that is good at the game everyone I talk to says is great fun regardless of the bad development decisions. But alas get into a mediocre group (90% of the player base) and make a mistake, here it comes "how can you not know everything about the game you bad, new player". Think about it if you removed all the long time players, or simply wow was released today as a new game it would be huge. Yes there are things the developers could do to aid in this, and there are issues that should have been addressed years ago, but I believe so many players need to buy a mirror. P.S. I have played since the original beta, some twenty years now. And yes I too have been "toxic" on occasion but I see it and always try to do better. - Zac
As someone who started at the end of vanilla, life has changed for me. I have a family and career now so I can’t invest as much times as I used to but I still enjoy playing the game. Glad to see more option for casual solo players. Love raiding but that’s a time sink I can no longer participate in. Glad to hear they’re doing a solo raid story mode as I like tuning in to the lore as well. The icing on the cake Solo Bgs. God know how long I wanted this option
Note, if you’ve played Classic, you’d see it actually is the most casual friendly experience. Around MoP they started over-inflating encounter complexity and chasing daily engagement metrics. SoD was an extremely casual friendly experience that they killed for the streamer crowd.
You can clear Heroic Raids in WotLK and Cata with a casual Dad guild and only doing 4 hours of raiding a week.
@@kendro1200 it's the most casual friendly experience if you enjoy leveling, for end game casual content retail is still king. clearing retail raids pugging has been easier in my experience compared to cata/wotlk classic, the only exception being wotlk naxxramas
Wait and see how it turns out. I was also really excited for solo arena, turns our yoy are having 30min+ ques. Noone with a job has time for this madness
SoD would’ve been the casual adventure raid experience if they had the team and direction
@@ziggs123 depends on the day honestly, sometimes you get back to back insta pops or 5-10min ques
I am 45 now and have played the game since its release. If they can nail delves and the solo-rated BGs, this game will surely be saved. Warbands are another great addition because I don't want to play an alt and have to relevel all secondary reputations. With a family and full-time job that keeps my play time much lower, it's the only path forward for me.Time will tell if this all works, but it's my last chance to give them before I move on.
Make honor level gear be the max level gear in unrated pvp (ie regular bgs & epics). That would encourage new players and casuals to stick around in pvp.
Lol no
1000% yes
@gst-y1hthat's how the game is now and PvP is dying
It's time to try something new
keep up the good work man. your literally the only warcraft guy i watch. speaking of the player base getting old, i started playing world of warcraft the very first week it ever came out. and here i am years and years later. cant wait for the war within!
I'm going to show my age here, but back in the day Shaman was the only class with Lust. Now there are a couple 4 others that have it. When we were the only ones that had it we did get invited to 5 man dungeons, because there was a reason to bring us.
In the current meta you will invite a mage over an Ele shaman 10/10 times because there is nothing that the shaman brings that is unique and the mage is better DPS and brings an int buff.
If you want to make all specs viable for mythics they have to be 1 of 2 things either unique in their own buff or a duplicate in DPS and buffs as another class. In this example the shaman would need an int buff and the same DPS to be interchangeable with the mage or bring something that the mage doesn't bring like a Crit buff.
As long as there are classes / specs that bring something unique like Mark of the Wild, Int Buff, Stam Buff, or health stones they will always be preferred in mythics.
Every season same thing Druid, Mage, and Priest are penciled in and Lock is usually pretty solid.
This is what Blizzard needs to change.
Hi Supa. Being our frontline PvP streamer and guide, and being someone who is directly associated with Blizzard being commentator for AWC, it is my request that you can kindly take the basic need changes to Blizzard and help revamp the PvP system. These can be as follows:
1. SoloQ Blitz which is a 8v8 SoloQ RBG needs to have different rating and title achievements and not the same as 10v10 RBGs, on the similar lines that SoloQ Arena has different title achievement of Legend compared to 3v3 Arena Gladiator
2. All the four modes, need to have its own mount reskin as we get for Gladiator
3. Blitz and RBG players also get Seasonal titles like Draconic Hero of the Horde, but this goes into the bin in the feats of strength tab and players who earned the Hero title in Cata S1 have the same title as that player who earned it last season in Dragonflight!! This is just a minor tweak but can instantly incentivize lot of players...
4. All of us PvPers have tons of vicious saddles laying waste in our inventories, this needs to be changed. We should be able to use them to get any legacy mount, or armor/weapon skins or just say 50k gold per saddle
5. In the War Within Beta, we see Honor is getting transferred to Alts at 80%!! Like why? When everything else is account bound, then so should be Honor and Conquest...there should not be any taxes...
6. If Normal and Heroic Dungeons or Raids award Gold to players, then Normal BGs should also award gold... if M+ can award Gold or Gear then Blitz and RBGs should also award Gold and/or Gear token...
If you can get these points addressed, then PvP will get revamped in real sense with a massive surge of participation as both casuals and elites will get incentivized and motivated to participate more, resulting in more revenue for Blizzard as well as more viewers/subscribers/followers for frontline streamers like you...
Thanks
Sunny
the music analogy is spot on!
Beautiful words, but nothing rly new regarding pvp (except solo rbgs, with probably 30+ min que)
Now without rating 8 min with low player count and when all be back 30....Sure *facep.
I like where they are taking it. It has been a while since i've felt this level of excitement going into a new expansion since Wotlk. So many new things are being added and improved I feel like the game is going to expand and have a new feeling to it.
legion was so dam good because alt friendly pvp (easy gear) and artifact ability makin each class feel cool
Class balance is the exact reason, as an enhance shaman, I switch between classic and retail often. Retail keeps disappointing me and I keep going back to classic for where I like the playstyle of enhance more.
Nerf enh and ele
U Like pressing 1 melee ability every 10 seconds ?
@@chrisk1458 I like the battle mage archetype so I like the mix. Sure the cooldown on Stormstrike in Era sucks but it’s solved in SoD.
Blizzard can "say" anything that they want to. Given how the game overall has been treated over the years it comes down more to actual change over time. Blizzard can always do one good thing and then 10 bad ones. Until these so called lessons that they learned are put in and experienced over time then it all means nothing.
All love for Legion, but it seems like everyone forgets that you were initially stuck to one weapon/specialization with a ginormous grind. That truly felt awful to try and switch.
I think they should redo the entire quest system for old zones. If they made it more of a streamlined story through out the expansions, I feel like it would give newer players more of a sense of what’s going on. In my opinion, there’s to much to do for a new player to really even start to like the game to begin with.
Why there's no M+ solos shuffle?
Mythic plus by design and to make it work needs the fail the key and therafor wasting it. that is integral to the evergreen nature of M+.
SoloShuffle is easy to grief and waste your key. that would be a nightmare. While arena and BG you can just queue again you cant really do that in M+, not in the same day
@@justlikeyourfathersaid Honestly, this is a smallest problem with it :D
Yea, a lot of us are "old" now. I've been playing WoW a long time, most of the ppl I played with aren't playing anymore. Times have changed, life has changed and I feel like Blizzard set a standard but then never evolved itself when it needed to as times were changing. For the longest time, WoW was the game other games trying to emulate. For me to keep to playing (atm I a not), the game needs more casual, stress free, easy to get into/out of, easy to understand that doesn't take hours of build up to enjoy the "good parts". I'm over the old questing system and feel it's extremely outdated. I can't keep up with it when I do subscribe for a month or two then take a break.
I cannot play RGB as a resto druid because healing is always going to use MW and Pres/Disc. Its the only bracket that i enjoy and i had been 2400 in it. I cannot even get into 1600 games. So most of the time i just sit in the game maybe do 2 solo q. Maybe play some 3s for like 3 games til it disbands.. I want to experience solo rgb and if its not helping me then its time for me to lay wow to rest lol
My biggest problem ia why they take a month or months to balance pvp? Firsr season of DF they were doing such great job every 2-3 weeks of tuning and after ret rework disaster it's almost like they just stopped. Tired of seeing same classes on AWC over and over because they don't wanna buff other specs or nerf those op ones. On top of that, SoloQ queues are just crazy and there Is no punishment for quitters. A healer can join in 2 minutes, go 0-3 and quit without much problems while dps goes back to a 30-40 minutes queue.
I will not believe blizzard until I see them constantly listening to feedback and trying to improve pvp. Next expansion better see more than 1 new arena map and more than 1 new bg (took them for too long for a new bg). I know pvp community is small but I am sure if they neglect it they are still going to lose money
1v1 arena basicly Que for duels would be awesome anyone else? Gives something to play while we wait for dungeon/battleground Ques
We need to give it up for Blizzard, they are definitely trying to change how they do things. TWW might actually be an amazing expansion.
I think a lot of the reason Blizz stuck with some of the stupidest ideas, such as conduit power and locked into covenants, was that certain individuals higher up forced it because changing it would have cost them some money. Now that those individuals are gone things are changing.
PvP gearing is so redundant nowadays. You can't use it in PvE content so make it extremely easy to obtain.
As someone who started playing wow for less than a year I can tell you the new player experience is absolutely horrid. It felt like a job trying to learn all of this stuff. And I just like to PVP. Well it takes literal days of grinding just to get a character leveled to play arenas. Then theres all the gearing, weak auras, learning abilities, UI. I would never recommend this to a new player. They need to make everything 100x more streamlined if they want new players.
Yeah fix shaman
keep up the push Supa. you and the few that make money from WOW --- push, push push.
I want to come back so badly, but I'm just so fcking lost on the storyline. What are we even doing anymore? I got busy around Warlords of Draenor and since then the story has just been this confusing spiderweb. If I could do like a 2 hour video of where the hell the world is now, I'd probably be able to come back and have purpose as to why I'm playing this zone or quest line.
@@NABHenry aye just play through the xpacs fully. thats half the fun playing out the lore
Or watch Nobbel, hes my source for lore :)
Bussin on god
I have only played WoW since the end of Draenor and Ian keeps saying similar buzzwords every time. Remember when he claimed that they had a ripcord to eliminate the lock of the covenants and that was what everyone keep saying, "pull the ripcord", ie don't lock people into covenants because it takes away choice, but they didn't listen and then what happened? The community hated the covenant systems for the most part. At this point, I wonder what the game would look like without Ian, maybe that is change that needs to be tried.
Legion / bfa wa good. SL / DF was crap. Just think about the raids and dungeon and class hall etc... amazing!
43 years young here
Damn unc old ahhh
damn no one asked
I have zero desire to play retail any longer, the combat and class design has just declined and gone in a direction so far from what i used to love about pvp gameplay and class design. ( too much self healing, too much mobility, too high of health pools, mana doesnt matter, every single target ability now cleaves because of pve reasons.. cc is completely different from what it used to be, damage outside of cooldowns isnt meaningful and we just keep getting more and more 30s-1min cds which makes your core abilities feel unimpactful outside of these cooldowns) just a few examples.
game started out as a World and Ended up as a Lobby game. I think the best thing blizz can do i just rename the game to Lobby of Warcraft!
Nerf enh and ele
I don’t get the design going so hard on the aoe design for mythic plus like if you want that more meat grinder gameplay just give Diablo or dynasty warriors a suss
Bring back the ability to black list bg maps and Ill do randoms, I just can't bloody stand that Azerite Map its terrible.
haha ikr
I agree! Definitely need that back. HATE the Azorite BG
Battle for Gilneas. Blacklisting was awesome. Also while we’re dreaming I’d love to see SS vs TM as a regular epic bg
Game balance is so so cruicial. ( how many people stopped playing because of Ret been out of control in season 2 and then Demon hunters then in season 3. Incompetent devs.
Ret was out of controle at the end of s2 and not even for that long. After the overnerf of ret other classes became iut of controle again for a whole season.
Shadowlands was my least favorite expansion after WoD
Less focus on arena and more in balancing for reg bgs and epics
Oh wow is def dead already... but you see the thing is...we kinda destroyed the afterlife with that last xpac... so that's when things get weird about death....
love your videos, they're getting me really hyped for the new expansion!
could you consider making a video on your philosophy around keybinds? I'm always overwhelmed with playing alts seriously because of all the different abilities, now more so than ever 🥲
overall, the game is the same. after 4,6,8,10 years --- boring. from zero to 110 etc.
blah blah blah -- BLAH --- BYE
Using music as a comparison is rough, as music is purely about taste not generation. Wow's number one issue is the inherently toxic player base, as an example if you get into an easy going group that is good at the game everyone I talk to says is great fun regardless of the bad development decisions. But alas get into a mediocre group (90% of the player base) and make a mistake, here it comes "how can you not know everything about the game you bad, new player". Think about it if you removed all the long time players, or simply wow was released today as a new game it would be huge. Yes there are things the developers could do to aid in this, and there are issues that should have been addressed years ago, but I believe so many players need to buy a mirror.
P.S. I have played since the original beta, some twenty years now. And yes I too have been "toxic" on occasion but I see it and always try to do better. - Zac
Update your PC 🤣
I can tell you for free, war within will NOT be a hit... It's the laziest looking expansion i've seen yet and i've played since day 1
I would LOVE it if the pvp people left wow....