'In Manipur, govts have manufactured dystopia for decades, not peace. It's showing now'
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- British colonial authorities controlled the hill tribes on Manipur’s peripheries through coercion and ethnic contractors. The policy helped keep the peace, but created problems which have exploded into the ethnic warfare that refuses to die down in Manipur today.
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First class journalism!! Giving us a proper context to better understand the ethnic conflict makes it all the more understandable. Great job Praveen
Kuki-chin-Zomi- Lusei- Mizo are basically one family... I am very impressed with the research. Indian Historians tend to leave out our struggles against the British
Well said Mama
The root cause of Manipur's problem lies with the radicalised CM. A state with different communities each with different political aspirations can be controlled only by a neutral leadership. The former CM O Ibobi is a case in point.
Goto burma
No not even ibobi was good from my perspective. Ibobi was corrupt too. We need leader who don't sell out govt job. And who wins election without money and muscle power. Then only Manipur will be a peaceful state. In valley during election it is mostly won by money. In hill by muscle power. Both the MLAs of hills and valley are mostly corrupt in the last 20 30yrs
@@siddhartha1310 idiot
@@siddhartha1310 go to Bangladesh
agree with you that leaders must look beyond their own communities and there is a need for someone who can be a leader of all the communities not just a meitei, kuki or a naga.
i belong to a hill tribe in northeast, the situation here is also precarious. entire northeast will burn down in civil war due to ethnic incompatibility. india should take this warning seriously .
❤️
If fire start from northeast what make u think it don't spread in mainland ?
And if mainland Hindus started to fueling these what make u think u can hold?
@@shivamkadam8335 british india could not hold afghanistan and northeast frontier. let us live the way we are. our resistance is too strong. dont try. you will fail
@@helcurt2509 we won't fail in1947 we had ghandhi who talk about ahimsa now our leadership is clear about abhramic free india don't try us its just 9 yr only just wait for next 10 yr 😉
The Tribal will always be a tribal no matter how much educated he will be always be a tribal.
Your mentality also sounds like one😂
The meiteis underestimated the Kukis. They thought they'd take 2/3 days to wipe us out. We've survived till date. Kukis have always survived and succeeded in Guerilla warfare. Bring it on....
Nisikant words remind me my childhood rhymes 'telling a lie no papa open your mouth ha ha ha'
That was an excellently written piece there. It would be great if The print made special video series on the histories of different regions of the subcontinent & on how those historic realities shape the present.
Cause of violence is due to :
1. illegal Kuki migrants and their Kuki supporters
2. Poppy cultivator and illegal drug dealers
3. Illegal land enchrochers in reserved forest/ protected forest areas
All the above are done/ doing by mostly Kuki communities... and also best victim actors in the world.
60% of people arrested in last year for drug trafficking were Meitei. 20% were Kuki. Pot is calling kettle black.
Provide evidence for your claims.
You Meitei are disgusting to the core.. you call your minorities and fellow Indians with names and accusations without any evidence
Its been 1.5 months. WTH is Amit Shah doing? Why no President Rule yet?
BJP don't wanna loose more power 😂
Thanks Mr. Praveen Swami.
It's a very insightful discourse.
But, is there any solution?
The root cause of the problem is the division of the same group of people as tribals and general after independence
dont keep changing your stripes
Most of the Meiteis back then didn't want to be tribal. They used to think tribals are uncivilised. Anyway that's a thing of the past. It will be a huge loss for Manipur if it is bifurcated: Meiteis will lose a Mecca/Ram Janma Bhoomi kind of place Thangjing Hill, but will the bearded man care about this?
@@gaidinkamei8462 I still remember back in 2005 when I brought meat for tiffin they used to think I am cannibal
@@gaidinkamei8462 bifurcation is the only option because the longer we stick together we will continue to see this lopsided development
@@gaidinkamei8462💯 facts .. Meiteis back then choose castism over tribalism same is happening in Assam too .. worst will happen here
Please pronounce Thiyam correctly. It is not 'थयिम' correct pronunciation is “ थियाम"
A terrific report. It is usually overlooked that, from a regional tribal point of view, the modern state of India is an empire, successor to the British Raj as the Raj was successor to the Mughals and Marathas, and they in turn successors, on into distant times. An effective Commonwealth must rule by consent, and involve people and communities in a manner to which they consent, and actively endorse.
Absolutely, tell the Manipuris Hindi hai hum 😂 and see how badly it will backfire…. And rightly so… same probably for any non heartland state in India. But then , ya ….
Thanks Praveen , I really enjoy your tightly written pieces. Everything is right with them- the content , the precision , story line 👍🏾
I’m glad you find the information useful. Please do send in suggestions with more ideas (Praveen).
Why manipur violence is raging on because of the meiteis regime of ethnic cleansing of the kukis in order to grab the ancestral land of the kukis
Great history explained in a nice way.
But what's going on now in Manipur cannot be blamed on the history.
History is history and now for the past 45 days, there seems to be no progress in curtailing violence, in orders to make people lead a peaceful life.
Is not State and Central Govt responsible to bringing normal life to Manipur people?
In this case the Kukis did not go to war
But were driven out from the valley, ethnic cleansing genocide by the Meties
And of course if a group of people are bend on annihilating you, ofcourse they have to defend
There is blood on the hands of Biren Singh and the BJP Govt
Kukis are infiltrators from Myanmar. They are taking advantage of tribal protections to encroach on Meiteis. And Meiteis are getting squeezed in the valley, with no rights outside. Their population has dropped from 70% to 53% in last 75 years. This is what Congress does.
Manipure need freedom from india
Government manufactured nothing.
It's symptoms of caste based reservation, which has no expiry limit, no power to curb it and destined for eternity as it seems now. Just remember the pre EWS era, this is almost exactly how Reserved catagory used to fight against those who were demanding reservation, not even from the pool of SC. But they deed oppose it. Why? Becouse they thought it was a zero sum game and fought a legal battle and lost.
So do not try to be pious. Say it for what it is.
In Caste system, a person born used to get it, he can't be thrown out for most part and he enjoyed the perks of state based on his birth right and there was no end to his entitlement.
Tell me if there is something different about caste based reservation system. Son of SC/ST gets reservation not becouse he needs it or he is oppressed but he born into it. Tell me if there is an expiry date of this reservation to them. This is the Caste system of Modern day India. Every body wants SC / ST reservation just like people wanted to be Brahmins or Rajpoot, but they can't be as they lacked the birth.
When this system goes down, history books will describe this system almost exactly i have! You shall be judged.
Politician should stop making election promises which they know they cannot fulfill. I heard one of Biren Singh's wife is a tribal. He could have been a bridge builder between the two community but instead succumb to BJP divisive politics
Thank you for doing this, Praveen. Very enlightening.
Glad you found it useful-and grateful for listening to so many of these vlogs (Praveen)
This is a well researched content. Thank you. It means a lot to us. ❤❤
A good load of BS, I used to think this channel relied on legit sources and produced them to their audience, You are coming up with Kuki history written by the Kukis themselves, if that is the backbone of the argument or the narrative in this case there are writings by Meiteis of themselves blowing their own trumpets, so tell me which ones will be thought reliable, this is where the foreign sources come in, unlike those that were brought from outside in the mid 19th century into Manipur and rehabilitated under state patronage, Manipuri people and their history finds mention not only in local but foreign sources as well as sources from neighbouring principalities and people groups that have their epigraphs and maintain historical records.
The present day southern districts of Manipur were in accessible to the Valley princes ? LOL
Sometime during 1470-80s C.E. Thangwai Ningthouba ally of Kekhomba had gone and laid seige to Khambat and the territories it controlled punishing the king of Khambat who had abducted Thangwai Ningthouba's daugther who was promised to Pong Prince Kekhomba. Dont take my word for it ask about this incident to the various Tai groups inhabiting India and Northern Myanmar, weh aapko avgad karayenge itihas ki iss ghatna se.
The early half of 18th century saw the rise of the Power that would set the sun on SE Asia's mightiest empire the Taungoo Dynastic Empire, R Brown in his 1873 statistical accounts records that Pahmeiba's reach to the south was upto the watershed that drained to the sea, indicating to Kaptai Lake that drained in Bay of Bengal, Visit Google Maps and look where Kaptai Lake is.
Pamheiba had captured major Burmese cities like Shwebo, Myedu, Sagaing at the banks of Irravady and Chindwin confluence and even Ava or In Wa.
Meitei Historians did not write these, these are recorded in Burmese Glass chronicles, these are recorded in Tai Shan epigraphs, since Pahmeiba had crowned Mongpo and Kyathon in Northern Burma. This is also reflected in the oldest colonial documentation done in NE India the less known RB Pemberton's Eastern Frontier of India 1835, he was a Leiutenant and was one of the British officer that was attached to Maharaja Gambhir Singh's Levy in the war against the Konbaung Burmese AKA the 1st Anglo Burmese war, it was the MANIPURIS who pushed the Burmese out of NE India and by Manipuris I dont mean only the Meiteis.
Please do better research, we expect better of you
Even I’m remaining in some confusion (🇺🇸) I am touched by your enthusiasm. MeToo I care about this disaster in Manipur, donna
Why don't you research if the history written by Kuki is true or false? They claimed that their artifacts and weapons were also ceased and are now in British museum.. why don't you go looking for them?
Why write a long statement and trying to discredit the history of kuki just because it's written by kuki?
Ain't the Meitei history is also written by Meitei? And your only source is "go and ask this person" "go and ask that person" to validate your point.
Anyways... A person that is filled with hatred like Meitei will never see The spec in their own eye
@@phobictoeverything There is a tale that, when a girl sometime around last year met the now King of UK she asked him about the so called Anglo Kuki War, he replied " I have never heard of it ". But he was well aware of Anglo Manipuri war though.
If buthcering innocent Naga civilians and citing them as British subjects is Anglo Kuki war than there is no bigger shame but wait.. Your Anglo Kuki War ring leaders were kept in Kohima jail and they requested the jailor through a letter to release them and citing the reason that they were mislead by Chingakham Sanajaoba and on top of that they also tried to bribe the sahab by promising mithuns.
Bunch of two timing, snitching so called leaders they were.
This is the history of your Anglo Kuki War.
Tujhe Mirchi lagi toh main Kya Karu ?
Let good sense prevail in Manipur. Let hope, development, prosperity, progress and stability a chance.
Lots of development is underway as to reinforce Bharat's presence such that PROC does not try to instigate insurrection or encroachment of Bharat's sovereign
Good and well reversed report. Kudos ☕.
1:27 i8hpkj own 2022 I will
A labour can become citizen but a labour shouldn't aspire to dominate their masters. Its democracy but illegal immigrants poppy cultivator do not understand the language of democracy that's why this violence. If meiteis had protected Manipur from burmese for past 3000years they can very well do it today as well. Know it.
Your ill conceived idea of tribals in erstwhile Manipur is superficial and laughable. Go and study some more with open mind. Your lack of education in this sphere is not required. And no, it is the inherent character of the meiteis to claim the heroics beyond the british records credited them with. Now, the meiteis cry for peace while their militants constantly roamed into Kuki-Zo villages to attack them. The meiteis will soon find themselves in the wrong side of history and so will your illiteracy.
Really appreciate Swami Saab 🙏🙏
Hi, very brilliantly analysed the historical perspective juxtaposed to the present situation in Manipur. There is lot to learn for all of us from this to go forward with aim of peace and tranquility. 🎉
It will stop only if people sitting in government wants to stop
Thiyam is "Thee-yaam" not "Thaiym".
And they are thinking, a gay who himself got screwed on the cross will save them 😂😂😂
Excellent informative video. Bribe and coercion can't solve any problem at all as same thing was done by previous governments in Kashmir also. Promotion of democratic institutions is the only solution.
Bravo!!! This is journalism. Thank you The Print.
It looks likes you have proudly and comfortably used the words " ethnic cleansing". Lesser we try imposing one's narrow narratives and sensitive words better it may be in such crisis. Rather please report from ground to highlight the facts.
This has affected the image of The Print.
Thank you for reporting
great analysis..
Manipur is burning yet modi has decided to visit US instead.
However, ''Anarchy''' is not usual among tribal groups. On the contrary, laws and traditions exert a control over many of a persons decisions in a way non-tribal people can scarcely comprehend.
Absolutely. The tribals are more bound by their laws and customs than non-tribals
Excellent deep dive into history behind Mainpur troubles!
Raise a Manipuri Regiment in the Indian Army. If Manipuris can serve Israeli Army, they can also serve the Indian Army against the Chinese Army.
Mr Swami spoke about all the historical and ideological history - going back more than a century but didn't talk even a word about proximate cause and possible resolutions.
This is the problem "ideologically inclined' reported - they ALWAYS miss the trees for the forest. What a wast of time watching this.
Thank you Praveen sir
How Manipure became a living hell after BJP took control of the state.??😮
Opening lines caught me off guard 😂😂
I am still trying to understand the opening lines😢.
Who dont know???
If State machinery cannot control Law & Order then President rule is to be imposed.. but it doesnt happen here..this is the main reason
Govt. Of india doesnt know about da history of northeast india,past leaders of india had made a grave mistake of not including the history of northeast, they made a blunder. So they shud address da problem of northeast as that of mainland.
I want print to recheck this information..... please do research it well or else print reputation will be down after pointing out the fact
Political and Military didn’t ask their people to stop violence instead initiate them to involve in order to achieve their political goals and agendas!! State 60 MLAs and Military leaders from both communities are responsible to bring peace ..Stop war between you all first ..
The North East is very complex .We should understand the ethnic , religious and history so that we can deal with .
Those who are ruling enjoying at the condition which is even on the dead bodies....makes person feel sick
It would be great if this complex history could be captured in print media.
ROOT CAUSE OF PROBLEM IS RESRVSTION SO SUSPEND IT FOR ALL...
Please know the difference between war and rebellion
True journalism.. Kudos
Great content keep it up.
During Congress rule Manipur was peaceful. Wherever BJP VHP RSS Bajrang dal leaders Narendra Modi Amit Shah you will have Hindu Muslims.
It is a ethnic conflict on reservation and cultural identification
Meitei trying to rewrite history in the comment section lol, their long paragraph is full of lies and their cooked up maytea lie which they believe it's true, coz they lie too much lol
It's Meitei not May-Tea. FYI, both sides lie, that's how propaganda works.
Maytea
@@madikiestherkhiangte9884 I corrected Meiteis that it is Kuki not Cookie.
This is 'New India'...
Let there be President rule where different groups can be handled ,😊
Kukis are lost tribes of Israel. They were brought to manipur by British to fight with the nagas.
😂😂😂
If you want to bring Israel here, then we must all believe we belong to the same family with our great great great.....great.......great grandparents as Adam and Eve. So what's so special about a lost tribe?. And who is valued less in eyes of God the Creator who valued each soul believer or not? He is grieved from all the mistrust and hatred between His children. Who is right or wrong? Only He can judge according to His time. Don't be self righteous.
Stop violence
Who is getting beat up - Hindus of Manipur?
Thank you for history
So you pass on the blame for the voilence in Manipur to the British and governments prior to 2014. But you could not guage why Manipuris are attacking BJP offices and residences of BJP people. And you are blind to the news of Assam using Manipuri militants for political purposes. What ails India is educated people's anationalism.
"Bureaucracy is openly selfish and run against national aspirations." Said thus Gopala Krishna gokhale more than 100 years back. We can read "educated" in the present situation for the "bureaucracy" of gokhale.
Spot on.
Attacks in BJP offices needs nuance. Actually, both Kukis and Meiteis have BJP MLAs.
So, Kukis attack Meitei BJP MLAs and Meiteis are attacking Kuki BJP MLAs.
@@rajx7120 😄😃
Save Christians and Muslims Lives in India
Altakia
Let’s talk sense - Personal Income Tax Reforms!
We all know that income from Tax in all forms constitutes a major component of the Govt. income, and it’s the source of State and Central spending in brief.
All the Govt. funded benefits/scholarships/exemptions enjoyed by our STs under the Constitution are funded/borne by means of revenue from Taxes. In short, all non-STs are liable to pay tax on their personal incomes, annually, for larger schemes of things taken up for nation building, including social benefits/security measures.
STs in Manipur constitute roughly about 40% of the total state population (half of the population) where it is 8.6% at the country level. Manipur, as we know, has been hugely dependent on Central govt. fundings on most of the fronts, the state is at crucial juncture of making prudent investments in revenue generating areas, so that we don’t end up from turning into a Balkanized regions on ethnic lines & communities. As long as the state remains financially weak, particularly, in the case of Manipur, it remains highly vulnerable to individuals/groups of people with vested interests.
Multiplicity of ethnic communities, and numerous exclusive laws and benefits under the constitution, added with socio-economic imbalances, people are largely gullible to ethnic strife, and mistrust among communities. The outcome of all those constitutional differences is what we are witnessing today. This is also a pointer to the Country in large that certain community based constitutional benefits are reviewed from time to time to maintain the law and order.
The laws and provisions made more than 70 years ago calls for progressive amendments and modifications, and rather than protracting them. The idea is to ensure benefits and provisions to the rightfully deserved sections/communities, rather than creating conflicts and hindrances in the functioning of a state.
When it comes to infrastructural developments in hills, viability of returns is fundamental factor. Without the personal income tax components, it will be difficult to run a initiative with a negative outlook in viability. Govts develops infrastructures/assets to generate revenues and sustain the governance. Increasing the no. of taxpayers, perhaps, it could be a way to ensure uniformity in infrastructural development across the geography.
Given the context of Manipur, it’s hard to rationalize, a top-class officer/minister from ST community being excluded from personal income tax bracket. It's detrimental to the state’s economy, when roads are filled with potholes, state's public water supply and municipal bodies are as good as a defunct due absence of funds for public spending.
Moreover, if the law of a state doesn’t bring a person under the income tax bracket, it leaves a person open to corruption and money laundering.
The problem is kuki militants from Myanmar and refugees. Kuki-chin are currently in war with Bangladesh govt and Myanmar govt demanding separate kukiland. They are now attacking meities and demanding separate land. All these is pre planned by kukis leaders.
Keep telling urself these lies. Meitei extremist groups armed by the state govt from police armouries running rampant n attacking kuki villages, what do you have to say to this? Crying a river over the milk spilt by ur people n yet u hav the audacity to blame kukis. Height of shamelessness. Kuch to sharam karo, chutiye
The problem is Chinese meitei imigrants.
Lol who are attacking whom,its clearly meiteis chasing out kukis
@@2764hu Yeah, Kuki on the 3rd May was NOT burning Meitei villages at Churachandpur. Right?
@@gaidinkamei8462 yes indeed they dont.
On a lighter note Mr Swami. I observed that Putin keeps his right hand stationary and moves only left. You do the opposite.
Rahul Ghandi Jindabaad, Rahul Ghandi PM 2024
Manipur is burning but modi in USA giving lecture
Your political map is wrong i strongly contest it.
So trueee!
Mithun is mithun not cow.
No anglo kuki war in the world my boy
Only for the Meitei..
It's not a surprise!
But we who are the rest of India knows the history and can even see the artifacts of kukis that still exist in British museums during the "Anglo-kuki" war
Free Khalistan Nagaland Manipure from india 🐷🇮🇳🐷
And let China take over? Indian map will not look the same. Parts of Jammu and Kashmir already under China and Pakistan. China has been trying to enter Arunachal. You like that to happen?
Free Manipure from india
See entire discussion is based on history not on govt responsibility and administration. According to Indian media we should go back to pree historic periods to solve Indian problem ..... BJP-RSS divisive politics has no role in domestic conflict......🙏🙏🙏🙏
Meitei are Tai Chinese, Kuki are Burmese.
Manipur, Kamrupa aka undivided Assam, Tripura were Bengali kingdoms invaded and occupied first by the Tai Chinese followed by the Burmese.
NE was liberated from Burma and returned to India by East India Company in 1832 but with majority Chinese and Burmese origin people who have never accepted themselves as Indians and have been taking help from China and Burma to separate from India right after the communists came to power in China.
If the government in New Delhi surreptitiously hides the history of north east and illegally declares Chinese and Burmese origin people as Indian SC, ST, OBC then it is begging for trouble.
SC, ST, OBC status has to be taken away from Chinese and Burmese origin people in NE which is the root cause for the current turmoil in Manipur.
Almost true, the Chin-Kuki-Zo people were never Burmese. They have different culture, customs and religious practices. The Burmese dialect or language is totally alien to the Chin-Kuki-Zo languages. Their land is divided by the British and integrated into India, Myanmar and Bangladesh. This division is done by the British inorder to effectively rule the Chin-Kuki-Zo people. So, the Kuki (which is a name given by the British) are not Burmese but the Zo/Dzou people.
Inorder to prove this, you let the Kuki people listen to Myanmar dialect, nobody will have a clue. But, if you let a Kuki listen to any dialect of the Chin-Kuki-Zo community. They will understand many parts.
How Indian us relation is rising on this time world most trending news is Modi visit
You have not any such a news accept😢
Trust Tina & DK Jori
Chacha handed over NE to missionaries. This act of Chacha is the cause of the problem, wherein people were converted and a fear and hatred was filled by the missionaries . This fear and hatred will not be solved easily. But it’s necessary that we must strive for achieving peace and prosperity
Nope the problem is with meiteis converting to himduism whereby they adopted customs like purity and castes system.(yes this is not the only problem but a significant one)
When they became hindus they began to look at the hill tribes as UNTOUCHABLES, a classic result seen in any sanskritisation process in India
The once similar community began to associate themselves as advanced civilised brahmin peoples
Dont just go blaming the missionaries
The tribals converted willfully but if you look into the case of meiteis, it was their converted hindu RAJA who forced the poeple to follow the faith.
The Meiteis were converted into Hinduism by Santidas Goswami. First Pamheiba alias Garibniwas was converted and later all of them. Now since last few years ago they try to revive their old religion Sanamahi but very unfortunate that they have been assimilated by the Hindus of the then Bengal. So, their culture and traditions are almost the same with the people of Bengal. Even some caste of the Bengali are found in the Meitei high caste, who consider themselves as priests like Sharma, Goswami, etc.
So, they are totally different from many original NE people.
Hinduism comes to Manipur 1 century before Christianity or any missionary. It was here they started having the upper caste and untouchability ideology which never existed before with sanamahi religion. The tribals were later on look down upon and consider lower. This is where the relations between valley and hills slowly degrade and the feeling of inequality exist even to this day. In fact, missionary or Christianity has nothing or less to none to do with what is happening now. Kukis and Christian both being Christian have a bloothbath in 1993. Your hatred for Christian doesn't means you can blames every issues to it.
Good effort to make the world know who is the rightful owners of this land. Once upon a time a subject of Meitei king brought from Burma for labour now are killing the meiteis and casting meiteis out. But lets see to the end.
Dont be ignorant,meiteis trying to chase out kukis as illegal
Punjab, LAC and northeast. All 3 are up in flames. When Khan comes to power in Pakistan even the LOC will explode.😂😂
Where is the "Free Baluchistan" crowd now?
YOUR FACTS ARE WRONG SINCE THE REFERENCES HAVE NO AUTHORITY. CONCOCTED FACTS TO CLAIM MANIPUR LAND.
Bhajpille jahan .. ...Danga wahan
Modani mukt bharat
Blame everything on the British so BJP can escape from being perpetrators of this violence .. it is the handi work of RSS/ BJP combo
Free Manipure from india
Paki troll