Dont forget, the bretheren moons say "make us whole". They obviously want to merge and become even a bigger monstrosity. Very lovecrafty...Azathoth comes to mind.
@@ProjectACHERON They mention "you can kill the prophet but you can't kill the god". It could be that the devs hinted at such a monstrosity. I also read in the wiki that DS4 was going to be about stopping the moons but the "cost would be too high". And "it's better with the devil you know". So something even worse than the moons. Pretty cool. I don't think there is any game out there that deals with existention cosmic horror like dead space. Chtullu is boring compared to this.
Incorrect: The "Make us Whole" unitologist chant wasn't the Brethren. it was the Incomplete / Immature Brethren at Tau Volantis Broadcasting its "SOS" of Sorts, Calling out for Marker-Afflicted Organisms to Go there and Let it Complete its Formation. The Brethrens as a Whole don't care about anything other than Fabricating markers, Sleeping, then Devouring Species as they Ignorantly awaken the Brethren during a Convergence Event.
What if the moon that we have now is the brethren we are talking about?? And the moon in hybernation-conditional sleep waiting other brethren moon send signal??? 😱😱😱😱
@@GeorgieFeelgood Hey man, I'd call you a dumbass but you can't even seem to read proper sentence structure. That's not my name, goofy. I'm replying to a comment. 😂😂😂
@@halobang5892 But it wasn't entirely his story though. I'm hopeful for Callisto Protocol, but let's not forget that EA had a team of professional writers and sci-fi authors shaping this story and making it interesting.
Dead Space was my first experience of a game that seamlessly blended existential horror, good world-building and fun gameplay. I hope someday the franchise is revived to some degree.
mine was silent hill the franchise is dated but for what we got back in PS1 and 2 days they were insane, a living town that reads you uses your fear and anxiety against you, what a trip. I love dead space but I'm kinda glad it didn't keep going the 3rd game really started to loss it's initial unconscious fear by explaining every thing. In my mind a fulfilling ending
I have been saying for years they needa just do dead space 4. I know it wouldn't happen cause they shut down but fr. They never made it to next gen. Next gen holds so much more potential for dead space. To me this is the #1 Game that deserves a sequel.
Yeah I really hope one day we will some how get a Dead Space 4 I want to know what the Breathren Moons are capable off and what the entire purpose and story behind the necromorph species is !
EA still owns the rights to Dead Space and they must understand that it is a very beloved series. One day in the future, the marker will influence them to make #4 and to make us whole.
that fits but i the marker always seemed imbued with sinister undertones in their design and replication. seems more intelligent than just a powering device
I gotta say after wandering for so long wtf these markers actually do throughout the games ..... They surely paid it off. Brilliant. Perfectly fitting. Horrific alien life forms in the form of giant tentacled moons floating in the sky that use all the Necro mass to form itself. I really thought the reveal would be a let down simply unable to live up to all the build up. Happy to be wrong. Genius.
I also believe that the markers are an ancient super/hyper weapon that went awry and destroyed exponentially more than its designated target/s. This is one of the most awesome sci fi stories I have ever seen. SciFi is life.
We don't know if the moons created the markers or the markers created the moons, and if so, who created those markers originally? Supposedly those questions would've been answered in DS4. Here's hoping the remake is a success and they continue the story.
I'm actually so suprised that no one had ever thought about Resident Evil and Dead Space crossovers Chris can punch those brethren moons like how he punched them boulder.
Considering how after RE5, the series started introducing hideous black parasitic masses with glowing yellow weakspots, RE could be a literal Dead Space prequel! Just explain away all the viruses and parasites as alien intruders.
I mean I feel it would have to do with the brethren moons consuming earth, but during those proceedings maybe the protagonist would receive visions of the markers creation and past!
Agreed, that is what they lacked on but in 1 or 2 they explained the marker a lot and it was epic. They mostly kept the pov in the players pov how he was going a bit crazy trying to find his gf.
man, i really wish there is dead space 4. The ending of dead space 3: Awakened really kept me wondering what will happen next, the story kept getting better and better from 1 to 2 to3, the best part is yet to come!
I am very impressed with this video. I know you took a lot of time and effort putting this together. It’s not like all of these information were found bare on one source. Thank you for this.
Wow, thank you. I really appreciate that! I have been working really hard over the last year to improve my content for you all and im so glad that it has been noticed.
The movie fucked it up. The markers are just pollinators What creates the necromorphs?marker. What creates the wing rays? The m-… marker? The wing rays…. Create nevromorphs? What creates baby morphs? Marker Why are babies all over the mining ship? … uuuuuh
Im still waiting for a Dead Space 4 like seriously this series is pretty big with a solid fanbase still. An the story still feels like it can continue, with more of the Brethren Moons lore and the universe that can still be expanded.
To be honest the dead space franchise could focus on either the large scale or small scale horrors and still work, the possibilities are endless, that the great thing about this come of horror it scary at any scale if done right.
@@atompunk456 yes, I find the story fascinating and characters cool but you gotta remember the scare factor is heavy so consider if you're into that in games.
I subscribe to the idea that the markers were created by some higher race for whatever reason. Whether it be for energy or a weapon. I'm thinking something like how the Leviathan created the crucible and in turn created the reapers
Yeah that’s makes sense, I suppose there are many possible paths the origin of these devices could have originated from it’s something I would love to dedicate a full video to!
Or maybe the reapers are actually evil, but I always thought the presentation of the reapers was more so as very uncanny/creepy in a very alien way, kind of like Godless/empty/soulless, like something so alienated from human warmth and familiarity, like a black hole kind of cause black holes are really scary/creepy to think about but you couldn’t call it intentionally evil I dont think. So the reapers are not necessarily full blown evil, at-least not explicitly/intentionally. IMO the marker is different, its openly and explicitly very sinister/evil
@@johnd1916 The irony is that I think the Necromorphs feel more effective at coming across as an amoral predatory force, and that has to do with the moons being so open about having very basic, primal, and selfish goals. The Reapers are a bunch of arrogant blowhards who hold delusions about the 'nobility' of their irrational evil, but the Necromorphs just want to eat and reproduce. They promote death and suffering across the galaxy simply because it's useful for them to maximize the amount of death, not because of any higher goal.
@@vladvah77 yeah they should use the latest Frostbite Engine from DICE or 😭Engine or UnrealEngine from EPIC I'm not a fan of unity engine the first three that I mentioned are the best looking GAME ENGINES out there.
I'll never understand the whole theory that "Markers influenced human evolution" to my memory, I have not seen this sentence uttered to be fact other than what Unitoligists preached and it's kind of obvious they are very wrong about - *EVERYTHING* No scientific factual information from any other characters in the series shares this sentiment. Not even the developers if you wanna go that far. The Markers are mysterious in nature and their origin is meant to be ambiguous and unknown being heavily inspired by Eldritch Gods and Old Ones of H.P. Lovecraft lore. Though it should be said, I do totally WANT the idea of Markers influencing evolution in a species to be real. The concept of owing your entire existence to an alien race who only want to use you for food/reproduction would make the already nihilistic story of Dead Space more hopeless.
The marker which landed on Earth hit in the Yucatan Peninsula and its impact is what took out the dinosaurs and changed the face of life on the planet which allowed for the rise of mankind as the dominant species on the planet.
It makes no sense that the markers influence evolution and purposedly cause overpopulation and energy crises if they're going to transform all sentient beings into mindless bags of necrotic tissue and ultimately merge them all into a planet-sized poop. Overly complicated if your goal is to fuck them all and eat them.
Please can we get a new dead space game? I don't care if it's dead space 4 or a full on reboot I just need this in my life. My favorite horror series ever is dead space hands down.
Man i love Dead Space. So glad i found this video 2 years later lol. Had no idea what the markers were for all I knew when I played was kicking in an alien’s face and vent jump scares lol
It's sad visceral was never able to to finish their story (let's hope they will someday). We also gotta remember that this is just a game and lot things were added just to push the story and gameplay.
I mean, you could say that the story is finished. The brethren moons arrived at earth. We don’t see anything after that, but do you really need to to know the earth was ravaged by the necromorphs?
@@codybarlik4524 Could've certainly been a game where they return to Earth and its in absolute chaos as there's a global necro outbreak. South America gets totally scooped up and if they aren't somehow stopped within maybe 6 months Earth is going to be looking like the red planet. Tons of possible environments that the game could take place in, with some great scenes as you look in the distance and see on the edge of the horizon just a massive, flesh moon sucking up everything into it, slowly moving towards you.
@@techelitesareadisease8816 It'd make for a cool sequence if you had to plunge into the bottom of the ocean in order to reach the Black Marker, while the moons above you are having a gigantic feeding frenzy on the surface.
When I was a kid, I was very obsessed with dead space and would draw markers/necromorphs constantly and on everything lol. Many teachers made calls to my mom in those days lmao
My theory:The markers were created as a power sorce by unknown alien race. But they also messed with other things to attempt to make the marker a godly power sorce. But during some testing they messed with one of the factors causing the marker to do what it does and unknowingly creating a universal that could end all life. (Also Dead space has a great story sad the series is over)
Honestly, I wish more people would acknowledge the obvious retcon Visceral did with the marker between 1 and 2. It's pretty clear the markers in the first game existed to protect people from necromorphs. It has a "dead space" around it that stops necromorph from getting close to it, it kills/suppresses all the necromorphs on Aegis VII with a pedestal it made other humans make, it even disengages the tethers holding up the planet chunk on Aegis VII, sacrificing itself to end the necromorph threat. This wasn't initially meant to be a malicious entity, those actions don't jive at all with anything else in the games.
I can appreciate all the work and research you put into this :) Awesome stuff! It's a tad jarring when you stutter from time to time tho, which I cannot fault you for!! One of the best 'tricks' I learned for this is to follow a rigid script, and to rehearse in a mirror (even tho nobody sees you, it helps you to be more conscious of your actions.) I know this is an older vid but I hope it helps you! Definitely gonna subscribe! Keep up the good work :)
Definitely appreciate the support and the criticism, means a lot to hear genuine feedback aimed to help me improve. Yes it is an old video and i have been making strives to do exactly what you have said, create better scripts and practice reading them and also to do as many retakes as is needed. Thanks so much for your time, i hope you continue to enjoy the content!
I could see them as being a Bio weapon similar to the Xenomorph in Aliens only in a much larger scale. I've always thought the species that made the original marker was in a war. One in which they were losing terribly. They created the Black marker and left it to be found by their enemy and take back to their home world. Once there and with sufficient population density the replication phase would begin creating the red markers. Then necrotic phase would take over. That, mixed with mass suicidal and psychotic behavior brought on by the markers at this stage would wipe out their enemy in one action. They would ultimately lose the war being whipped out but their Trojan horse made it the its destination and fulfilled its purpose. As for the creation of more back markers I think it was a fail safe made in case they did lose. To propagate the black markers to ensure they took their enemy with them. It is likely they built a fail safe into the black markers to disable production of more but with none left to give the shutdown command they will continue to propagate through out the universe until no biological diversity remains.
I heard a theory from someone that they could be an extreme form of population control that results in them becoming a new planet for a new population to live on? But yeah i dont know
The only way in theory to stop the markers and the brethren moons is by finding the original civilization which made the markers and shutting down them all.
If it even possible to do so. It likely that the original civilisation couldn’t control it and it was able to wipe them out however. I really think that would make for an awesome fourth entry into the franchise. With the brethren moons amassing towards earth, our last hope is to seek out the origin of the necromorphs markers signal by tracing it to their point of origin and shouting the transmission down from its source.
@@ProjectACHERON last night I was up late thinking about this and then realized that the universe is so big and there are so many different galaxies and solar systems that something like dead space is probably happening. Spooky
Yeah the sheer scale that the universe is, means it’s likely that somewhere along the lines everything to can ever imagine has happened, it’s likely something very similar to the necromorph is out there right now!!
Thanks for the good content! DLC: Awakened ending, but I suspect that convergence has been achieved on the Earth side and the Earth's Brethren Moon has taken over the function. The damage from the marker terrorist attack by Danic and his team was so severe that the Earth government forces on the lunar colony only had one battalion left, but Norton's platoon and Isaac didn't have time to neutralize the moon markers. If the ending Brethren Moons were simply coming to Earth, the DLC storyline was correct that they should return to Earth and warn them as soon as possible. If a signal comes from one moon of Tau Volantis to another, then that signal will reach the Earth markers, and the Earth markers will continue to send out messages to the other markers and the moons about their whereabouts. Also, I made Japanese subtitles for this video, I'm not sure how youtube works, but I heard it's being vetted. Check it out if you'd like.
That’s awesome thanks so much for that my friend! And i really want a dead space 4 where its humanity on its last legs maybe a sole fleet of ships with the remaining humans or something fleeing a lost earth and attempting to find a last ditch way to destroy the convergence.
Hey Acheron, I have a Dead SPace consipracy theory: What if the Marker is actually real and it influenced the minds of Video Game Developers into making the Dead Space games to foreshadow what it has planned for humanity?
Just finished Dead Space 1 and got a few questions. I wonder why the hive mind final boss and the army of necromorphs want to stop Issac(already guided by marker created vision of Nicole) from bringing the marker back to the planet(make us whole)? And Kendra as well as the guy killed by Kendra(the one hallucinating his dead wife) said the marker can suppress the necromorphs? Aren't the marker and the necros on the same side?
The hive mind and the necromorphs were not trying to stop issac, from bringing the marker back to its pedestal. I will try to explain as best i can, as briefly as i can. First off. Disregard a lot of what you have heard of the markers whilest reading this. The black marker is just the same as red markers. All markers have the same goal and function the only difference is the convergence marker has a pedestal which helps regulates its energy when an outbreak is happening. This is key to understanding how the markers function, to answer your questions. Markers actually power necromorphs. With the help of a recombinat virus a portion of the marker signal is what is getting the necromorphs up and about. The recombinant is what is responsible for the mutations and genetic information on how a necromorph behaves. The markers DO NOT cause mutations through its signal. So think of the markers, as among other things as wireless power generators (very basic). What this energy is the marker is able to use is unknown, and my own theory is at the sci fi part of "i just know how the cells are able to induct this energy". But the more necromorphs, the more energy output is needed. So, along comes humans and takes the marker from it pedestal, this triggers an change in the energy output of the marker, alerting all nearby necros, hivemind included. Now dr Kein came to the realisation of what the marker was (or his own version based on his own knowledge) and thought the way to stop the outbreak, was to return it to the planet. And because the marker was affecting him, he used his dead wife to spur him on in his goal. Issac himself was then convinced by dr kein, so he too - without himself knowing anything about the marker, continues the mission to put it back on it pedestal. And because he was also being affected by the signal, he used his dead girlfriend to comfort him and give him advice. The marker itself was not implanting these memories of nicole, it was issac all along. The marker was the thing causing the changes in his brain causing him to go mad. The necromorphs are not thinking planning entities. They have base instincts present in them from base genetic information. When issac returned and placed the marker back. The reason the necromorphs were destroyed in the vicinity was simply a spike in energy output from the marker, and this energy was to much for the already irradiated necros, so they were destroyed. This obviously had a limited range, but it was not some intricate plan by the markers. The same as the reason there is a dead zone around the markers, the marker is repelling them due to electromagnetic repulsion. It's not the markers protecting humans. I hope that helps.
Personally I support 3 ideas: 1 - Failed technology like in Terminator, a new tool that went out of control 2 - Biomass translation instrument as in War of the Worlds, use the moons to converge, translate, sterilize and make ready for harvest 3 - Next step of evolution, the moons ain't the original makers, they're what they made themselves into and began a new species, far more advanced.
Dead space 4 would have been the greatest game ever. Imagine a desperate fight for earth trying to take out the brethren moons, perhaps culminating with destroying a super brethren moon that's made from earth via some superweapon or causing the sun to supernova. You save humanity but lose earth, all bitter sweet like.
The fact that they possessed this advanced technology almost 65 million years ago or longer just makes me think who they are and why they made the markers! And what kind of powers they possess
2:20 minutes in and you managed to invent informations about the markers..... Bravo! I will stop here and ask to anyone that is watching this to stop and find an other RUclips channel if they want the proper informations.
As a dead space fanatic I appreciate how many people cover lore on the necromorph on unitology and the markers themselves I know I've watched this before but I got nothing better to do lol
Interesting but there a few flaws. 1. Main part of biomass on the planet is single cell organisms. Humans and even all animals together are nothing comparing to mass of all bacteria and archaea. It is silly to harvest people. 2. All organisms including us are just biomachines and dead organism is a very broken machine. Nobody expects that broken car will move again on its own for obvious reasons. Those reasons are the same for dead bodies and cells. 3. Space and especially orbit of a planet that has magnetic field is not the best place for biomass. Radiation and extreme temperatures can very fast turn biomass into simple organic molecules that are already present in space in huge quantities. And appearance of that meat planets doesn't reveal any protective crust or strong magnetic shield. 4. If that marker can't survive collision of planets, how it survived crushing on Earth? For so small object like marker it's the same as be squashed by two planets. There was enough energy to detach atoms from each other unless it had landing mechanism. But it is shown in the game that marker doesn't have any moving parts or active protection, or engines. 5. Biomass decays over time. To protect it from decomposition you need to freeze it or it has to be alive so it could constantly repair itself at molecular level. And to do this biomass requires very specific conditions and multilayer shielding: magnetic for solar wind, ozone for UV, oxygen for X-ray. Meat planet doesn't have any of this.
We don't exactly know the components of these markers and variations so this is all possible. Or it's actual intentions vs misuse of the marker either. A Dead Space 4 would and should answer most of what we don't know. Advanced alien technology that defies what applies to us or what we know of evolution.
I never played but since I played Mass Effect Legendary Edition and heard about Dead Space I got obsessed with it. The Brethren Moons make the Borg seem like puppies.
Two things, contact with an event horizon of a black hole will not destroy an object outright, it will however vanish from the universe for the most part, unable to leave and falling toward the singularity. Second another possible way to destroy a marker would be to send it into a star, turning it to plasma and destroying it's structure completely.
Altman was never assassinated, he was killed in the research station by a necromorph I believe, havent gone through the book entirely yet but I’m pretty sure that’s what happened
Project: ACHERON you weren’t wrong though, technically the government did kill him by SPOILERS having a necromorph kill him so it was a 50/50 on accounts, I just finished the book too
I think Brethren moons are effectively impossible. First of all the amount of living organic tissue on earth for example is minuscule compared to all other matter. Definitely not enough to form a moon. Meteor maybe. Secondly the solar radiation would annihilate all organic tissue, necrotic even. I just don’t see them existing at all. PS I understand it’s a game, just for arguments sake
The wiki says the moons when first formed go to other planets to continue harvesting, I'd imagine the moons we see in game are all that large due to harvesting dozens if not hundreds of planets biomass.
I like to think at some point the multiversal universal union will eventually encounter the markers. It would be interesting to see how their tech and advanced influence is affected and dealt with by the moons.
@@ProjectACHERON the combine from half life 2 are clearly stated to rule over several universes in the multiverse, I'd be interested to see their tactics and technological prowess go up against the flood or necromorphs.
It would be an interesting apocalypse if the Combine ended up influenced by the markers into dispersing them across the multiverse. At first they might just consider them to be another tool just like headcrabs, but end up becoming reliant on its energy and having their advisors be possessed by the intelligence inside the markers. Instead of citadels, they might have clusters of organic Dyson spheres for every universe they own. There's also the lack of certainty about just how high their power scales, or if they even have limits. If the Brethren moons can combine into a galaxy-wide network, what stops them from becoming a multi galactic union? Or a pan universal union? Or even a trans universal union? We can infer from the DS3 DLC, and the implications of humans having unlocked FTL/wormhole travel from the markers, that the moons are capable of in-universe teleportation, which gives them an advantage over the Combine.
Why would hurling the marker at a planet destroy it? Markers are apparently sent hurtling into space to collide with planets. But this is a good video? Thanks.
Personally, I see the Markers as something like John Carpenter’s “The Thing,” in that it contains or simply is a form of life so far evolved beyond our comprehension of xenobiology that it has attained complete and total control over its own physical form, all the way down to the genetic level. In the case of the Markers, though, they are a form of life that has evolved even beyond the basic genetic mastery of the Thing’s “Supercell.” The “Craftsmen”, as I’ll now refer to the hypothetical makers of the Markers, weren’t just able to manipulate the building blocks of life itself, NOT ONLY were they able to unlock the secrets of cellular reanimation on a planet-wide scale, but they were ALSO able to somehow transfer their conscious minds into and live eternally within vessels made entirely from inorganic material; the Markers. Over the span of their infinite existence, these Craftsmen may have gained such a sublime, transcendent view of “life” that to them, life and death are simply two states of being which they can manipulate in the same way we might simply flip a switch to turn the lights in a room off or on at our leisure. Maybe the spreading of the Markers across the cosmos REALLY IS meant to be a gift from the Craftsmen to show other forms of intelligent life that death can be transcended. But since they are so far beyond our ordinary stages of life bound by death, they are no longer capable of understanding that more primitive forms of sentient life simply aren’t ready to partake in Convergence. That to sacrifice biological individuality at the young age our species is at the series’s start causes existential trauma and devastation that VASTLY overshadows any good that could possibly come from the Craftsmen’s Convergence. I dunno. I just find it interesting to consider the possibility that the Brethren Moons actually harbor no hostility at all towards younger intelligent life forms and genuinely mean well. But their vast power and transcendent perception of life and the universe as a whole makes their every move and every attempt at communication feel cosmically threatening to less-evolved life forms still bound by the permanence of death.
Yeah, i agree that the first moon is actually creators making the marker and using it on themselves to evolve. After they became the moon they just start conquering the universe by converting everything alive to other moons. Sort of assimilation process. Maybe the end goal is to merge all the moons together. No idea how they'd figure out there's nothing alive in the universe anymore.
Then why do the moons seem to have the exact same urges that their pray does - to gorge and to breed? How can they transcend life and death if a frozen moon on Tau Volantis immediately calls for it’s brothers to feast on yet another dumb enough civilisation to fall into their trap, DESPITE their Black Marker trying to warn and stop them? I think the true transcendent beings are the Crafters who created the Markers in the first place. Markers are not “evil” (which would mean “trying to evolve an intelligent race into a uniform flying meatball”) in and of themselves. there are multiple examples in the DS universe, which showcase that Markers are trying to resist the Convergence and the moons’ influence (eg red Marker showed Isaac and Dr. Kyne how to stop the tragedy on Aegis and Ishimura).
*YES!* My Current intrepretation of The Markers being either interdimensional objects that are able to 'mend' the flesh at micro or even atomic levels (some necromorphs are actuall ''alive'' lifeforms) and/or rouge *monoliths* (A.İ.) that destroyed their creator race and all species around the galaxies that spread through the universe, got required repurpose and recreate and 'harvest' life for themselves (however this could be their creator species purpose as well, as if the creator species being either fanatic purificationists as the white plant aliens from Ben10 and Species from Stellaris) In my view Necromorphs are potentially more powerfull and spreadable compared to the Flood
Oh yeah i would say the Markers and Necromorphs are way more deadly that the Flood and far more likely to spread and encompass the bio mass of an entire galaxy. Whatever the markers origins it was obviously something very advanced and very morally questionable that lead to their creation!
It's really nice to have the whole lore behind the Markers in one place. There's so much going on and to piece together. And I never played the Dead Space 3 DLC so there's probably a lot I don't know about. I knew about the eldrich horror style planets, but didn't know anything else about them. Also can't remember jack all of DS3's story other than it's hamfisted love triangle and poorly detailed and animated faces lol. Thank you for making this, especially now with the Dead Space remake. Hope they resurrect the original Dead Space 4 script some day.
The Red Marker was found on Aegis 7 and Earth. Who on Earth, would bring the marker to Aegis 7!? I watch the movie Dead Space downfall: in beginning three people we're scouting on Aegis 7 and they found the Marker. Which is, it looked like black. But it was supposed to be red, not black. The black marker was the one built on Titan station. When I play Dead Space... it looks similar to the movie Resident Evil and Alien. Alien Resurrection, I watch the trailer. I heard a song. That freaks me out. I'm not afraid of it, just it freaks me out. And Resident Evil. Zombies: biting and infected humans. Necromorphs: bite to kill. Not bite to kill and infected humans.
I think the flood is worse cause they retain their own mind but no motor control of there body and they also can take over a ship's control with enough biomass present.
I'd say both are equally deadly. The flood are just a tad bit worse since they can use weapons and can fly ships. I would honestly rather deal with zombies than either the flood or necromorphs
Long story short, never trust Xeno technology.
"Purge them in flame!" - W40K
Hahah yeah just stay away from it all together!!
flesh and undead weakness fire (thermo nuke and napalm bomb)
If it's xeno, it's heresy.
suffer not the alien to live, Commisiar Gaunt
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Dont forget, the bretheren moons say "make us whole". They obviously want to merge and become even a bigger monstrosity. Very lovecrafty...Azathoth comes to mind.
Wow imagine if a azathoth is the end game of the necromorph, to become so massive they encompass all bio mass in the universe and become its ruler !
@@ProjectACHERON They mention "you can kill the prophet but you can't kill the god".
It could be that the devs hinted at such a monstrosity.
I also read in the wiki that DS4 was going to be about stopping the moons but the "cost would be too high". And "it's better with the devil you know".
So something even worse than the moons.
Pretty cool. I don't think there is any game out there that deals with existention cosmic horror like dead space.
Chtullu is boring compared to this.
Project: ACHERON Kind of defeats the purpose. Why become the all powerful ruler of the universe if it’s all just dead space?
@@TheCorrodedMan Empty space means all the domain one can want, you get a whole sandbox to play god in. At least my understanding of it
Incorrect: The "Make us Whole" unitologist chant wasn't the Brethren. it was the Incomplete / Immature Brethren at Tau Volantis Broadcasting its "SOS" of Sorts, Calling out for Marker-Afflicted Organisms to Go there and Let it Complete its Formation.
The Brethrens as a Whole don't care about anything other than Fabricating markers, Sleeping, then Devouring Species as they Ignorantly awaken the Brethren during a Convergence Event.
oh god the marker cause the extinction of the Dinosaurs got me imagining a Dino Necromorph.
That would be pretty wild haha!!
That should be the 4th game or side game 😂
JESSE!
What if the moon that we have now is the brethren we are talking about?? And the moon in hybernation-conditional sleep waiting other brethren moon send signal??? 😱😱😱😱
Science Bitch!
The marker is basically the moons pollination process
Yeah pretty much !
not no really, in cut content of ds2. the markers are a revenge tool to a war that is happening for eons according to one the cut logs in the game.
Yeww, moon semen
@@mineis3andhalfinches865 what where is that
@@GeorgieFeelgood Hey man, I'd call you a dumbass but you can't even seem to read proper sentence structure. That's not my name, goofy. I'm replying to a comment. 😂😂😂
There is so much possibilities in expanding the Lore of Dead Space. The Necromorphs, Markers, Mythology, and History has so much potential.
i know right
Till ea disbanded Visceral Games and abandoned the franchise. A remake is in the works and hopefully it will revive the franchise.
@@EvilXero359 i don't think schofield will ever go back to a junk company, since he's already has his own company in making of callisto protocol
@@halobang5892 But it wasn't entirely his story though. I'm hopeful for Callisto Protocol, but let's not forget that EA had a team of professional writers and sci-fi authors shaping this story and making it interesting.
Neat name huh
Im just here cause ppl look at 5G like they were markers, lol.
Haha yes those people.......
Imagine if 5G network towers would affect people like Markers!
That would be pretty crazy. A little far fetched though
@@ProjectACHERON Yeah.
😂😂
It’s great to see people are still very much interested in the dead space universe! Only the fans can demand a 4th be made 😫
I really hope there is eventually a 4th and get an overall conclusion to the story within it !
Project: ACHERON as I said, only us fans that love it can demand it. And the hardcore fans WANT it!! Need to know what happens to earth and Isaac 🙌🏼
EA ruined it
Nah. I don't think so. Dead Space 3 failed, and EA knew it so they pulled the plug. They introduced lootboxes, who would want that in their game?
This is a great game with amazing underrated lore. This is pure gem for writers, movie makers and other creative people. Too bad it's overlooked.
I’m not even into video games, but I’m a fan of scifi and came across the Dead Space story. It’s very creative and the world building is awesome.
I agree such a fun, scary and interesting game!
LOL same. I never ever play horror games but stories like these are so interesting and I practically binge video game lore videos for fun.
Dead Space was my first experience of a game that seamlessly blended existential horror, good world-building and fun gameplay. I hope someday the franchise is revived to some degree.
It definitly deserves the revival!!
You got your wish!
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@@asneakylawngnome5792 remakkkee
mine was silent hill the franchise is dated but for what we got back in PS1 and 2 days they were insane, a living town that reads you uses your fear and anxiety against you, what a trip. I love dead space but I'm kinda glad it didn't keep going the 3rd game really started to loss it's initial unconscious fear by explaining every thing. In my mind a fulfilling ending
I have been saying for years they needa just do dead space 4. I know it wouldn't happen cause they shut down but fr. They never made it to next gen. Next gen holds so much more potential for dead space. To me this is the #1 Game that deserves a sequel.
Yeah I really hope one day we will some how get a Dead Space 4 I want to know what the Breathren Moons are capable off and what the entire purpose and story behind the necromorph species is !
Yeah i would hope at least that eventually!
EA still owns the rights to Dead Space and they must understand that it is a very beloved series. One day in the future, the marker will influence them to make #4 and to make us whole.
Haha yeah we can only hope!!
Bet you’re happy now
My theory some ancient race created the markers to solve their own energy crisis and inadvertently doomed the Galaxy
You're not wrong we humans do the same thing but instead of the galaxy it's our planet
Yeah I guess it’s a subtle suggestion to how we may one day become as a race!
that fits but i the marker always seemed imbued with sinister undertones in their design and replication. seems more intelligent than just a powering device
I wonder if Mabye it was a weapon of some sort and they lost control
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Imagine all the markers that would be just chilling on barren planets waiting for something to land/evolve on it.
its a boring job but somones gotta do it
Dead space taught me one thing ‘You pay the price for evolving’.
Haha yeah
It taught me: always confirm your kills. CUT OFF THR LIMBS!!!
It taught me "dont mess with foreign galaxy object" even scientist in the Doom game do the same thing like Dead Space did. Smh...
@@jakartaajalah Dead space was actually inspired by doom 3 i'm pretty sure, which came a few years before.
@@robertsludock Makes sense that dead space would get inspired by doom, I remember Glen Schofield saying he wanted RE4 in space
Necromorphs=really scary tyranids
yeah i suppose!
Tyranids weren’t scary enough?
Zombie Tyranids = Necromorphs
So that's what my next door neighbor is building out of his shed.
Lol haha watch out for them!
I gotta say after wandering for so long wtf these markers actually do throughout the games ..... They surely paid it off. Brilliant. Perfectly fitting. Horrific alien life forms in the form of giant tentacled moons floating in the sky that use all the Necro mass to form itself. I really thought the reveal would be a let down simply unable to live up to all the build up. Happy to be wrong. Genius.
I also believe that the markers are an ancient super/hyper weapon that went awry and destroyed exponentially more than its designated target/s. This is one of the most awesome sci fi stories I have ever seen.
SciFi is life.
yeah there is something so terrifying yet interesting about where the markers must have come from and what the answer is to why they were created.
We don't know if the moons created the markers or the markers created the moons, and if so, who created those markers originally? Supposedly those questions would've been answered in DS4. Here's hoping the remake is a success and they continue the story.
I'm actually so suprised that no one had ever thought about Resident Evil and Dead Space crossovers
Chris can punch those brethren moons like how he punched them boulder.
Haha yes!! That’s the solution!
ISAAC! Nicole was just in the way between you and my sister!
Well if they did do a crossover .. mostly the game will be of chris haymakering half of the necromorphic population
Considering how after RE5, the series started introducing hideous black parasitic masses with glowing yellow weakspots, RE could be a literal Dead Space prequel! Just explain away all the viruses and parasites as alien intruders.
Haha yeah you can make anything work with enough stretching
That sounds like The Flood with extra steps...
Mark Rafla lol that’s what I thought as well
Hmm my bad there are some extra in terms of the thematically and concept elements of this plague and what it means in terms of the universe !
@@ProjectACHERON i was just quoting rick and morty. No need to apologize. Excellent video:))))
Hah thanks I didn’t pick up on that right way lol
But better
Dead space 4 should focus on the history of the marker
I mean I feel it would have to do with the brethren moons consuming earth, but during those proceedings maybe the protagonist would receive visions of the markers creation and past!
Imagine exploring a planet abandoned after a brethren moon left
Agreed, that is what they lacked on but in 1 or 2 they explained the marker a lot and it was epic. They mostly kept the pov in the players pov how he was going a bit crazy trying to find his gf.
If they made another game based on the orgin and creators and the destruction of all the markers
man, i really wish there is dead space 4. The ending of dead space 3: Awakened really kept me wondering what will happen next, the story kept getting better and better from 1 to 2 to3, the best part is yet to come!
Unfortunately the so called remake might throw the story into the trash.
@@Mormegil452 it’s going to show canonical connected events, not throw them in the trash
need more deadspace lore videos on youtube really bad ty for this
Ill see what i can do !!
@@ProjectACHERON I'm hyped up for the next one!
Great job on keeping the presentation flowing when there were minor stumbles, you've got the potential to make an amazing channel!
Thanks so much please check our some of my more recent stuff!
Excellent video. Never knew Dead Space was so interesting. The Black Markers are easily one of the most formidable weapons in all of Sci Fi
very true and thanks for the comment!
Formidable- I like that
I am very impressed with this video. I know you took a lot of time and effort putting this together. It’s not like all of these information were found bare on one source. Thank you for this.
Wow, thank you. I really appreciate that! I have been working really hard over the last year to improve my content for you all and im so glad that it has been noticed.
Thank you I never could understand the whole marker biology. You really disect the heck out of this.
No worries at all glad you enjoyed the video!
The movie fucked it up.
The markers are just pollinators
What creates the necromorphs?marker.
What creates the wing rays? The m-… marker?
The wing rays…. Create nevromorphs?
What creates baby morphs?
Marker
Why are babies all over the mining ship? … uuuuuh
I've played every game 3 times and this video still blew my mind thank you. Huge fan of the game and ripe for an animated series
Yeah would be pretty cool!
Im still waiting for a Dead Space 4 like seriously this series is pretty big with a solid fanbase still. An the story still feels like it can continue, with more of the Brethren Moons lore and the universe that can still be expanded.
To be honest the dead space franchise could focus on either the large scale or small scale horrors and still work, the possibilities are endless, that the great thing about this come of horror it scary at any scale if done right.
Dead space lore is superb. Pure sci-fi horror awesomeness
I know right!!!
Man i feel so late to this fandom
Its never to late to talk to passionate people about the stories they love!
@@ProjectACHERON ight 😎👌
Heh same here, I just finished the games like a week ago and watching videos like this now.
@@_MRK87 was it a blast
@@atompunk456 yes, I find the story fascinating and characters cool but you gotta remember the scare factor is heavy so consider if you're into that in games.
I subscribe to the idea that the markers were created by some higher race for whatever reason. Whether it be for energy or a weapon. I'm thinking something like how the Leviathan created the crucible and in turn created the reapers
Yeah that’s makes sense, I suppose there are many possible paths the origin of these devices could have originated from it’s something I would love to dedicate a full video to!
The marker is evil/sinister though, the reapers aren’t intentionally evil, they’re just soulless/Godless
Or maybe the reapers are actually evil, but I always thought the presentation of the reapers was more so as very uncanny/creepy in a very alien way, kind of like Godless/empty/soulless, like something so alienated from human warmth and familiarity, like a black hole kind of cause black holes are really scary/creepy to think about but you couldn’t call it intentionally evil I dont think. So the reapers are not necessarily full blown evil, at-least not explicitly/intentionally. IMO
the marker is different, its openly and explicitly very sinister/evil
@@johnd1916 The irony is that I think the Necromorphs feel more effective at coming across as an amoral predatory force, and that has to do with the moons being so open about having very basic, primal, and selfish goals. The Reapers are a bunch of arrogant blowhards who hold delusions about the 'nobility' of their irrational evil, but the Necromorphs just want to eat and reproduce. They promote death and suffering across the galaxy simply because it's useful for them to maximize the amount of death, not because of any higher goal.
@@mattmedrala1947 You just proved they're evil lol by your own words. Doing evil things out of selfishness = totally evil.
Best explanation of dead space I’ve seen thank you so much
Thank you
I'd just be happy if they remastered the series for PS4 or better 5
Yeah a PS5 triology remaster would be fantastic!
@@ProjectACHERON And for PC, obviously!!!!
Yeah thaty goes without saying!
@@vladvah77 yeah they should use the latest Frostbite Engine from DICE or 😭Engine or UnrealEngine from EPIC I'm not a fan of unity engine the first three that I mentioned are the best looking GAME ENGINES out there.
From what I heard the creator of dead space Glen Schofield is working on a new survival horror game titled Callisto Protocol. Looks badass.
I'll never understand the whole theory that "Markers influenced human evolution" to my memory, I have not seen this sentence uttered to be fact other than what Unitoligists preached and it's kind of obvious they are very wrong about - *EVERYTHING*
No scientific factual information from any other characters in the series shares this sentiment. Not even the developers if you wanna go that far.
The Markers are mysterious in nature and their origin is meant to be ambiguous and unknown being heavily inspired by Eldritch Gods and Old Ones of H.P. Lovecraft lore. Though it should be said, I do totally WANT the idea of Markers influencing evolution in a species to be real. The concept of owing your entire existence to an alien race who only want to use you for food/reproduction would make the already nihilistic story of Dead Space more hopeless.
Yes i agree to agree but i really do like that nihilistic outlook on the species around the galaxy particularly earth
It is more inspired by Stanley Kubrick‘s film 2001 Odyssey in Space.
Yeah I suppose there is a few thematical links there
The marker which landed on Earth hit in the Yucatan Peninsula and its impact is what took out the dinosaurs and changed the face of life on the planet which allowed for the rise of mankind as the dominant species on the planet.
It makes no sense that the markers influence evolution and purposedly cause overpopulation and energy crises if they're going to transform all sentient beings into mindless bags of necrotic tissue and ultimately merge them all into a planet-sized poop. Overly complicated if your goal is to fuck them all and eat them.
Please can we get a new dead space game? I don't care if it's dead space 4 or a full on reboot I just need this in my life. My favorite horror series ever is dead space hands down.
I with you there my friend!
It’s happening !
Duuuuude I know I read about that I can't wait to see how it turns out!
We r getting r Dead space remake
Maybe The Callisto Protocol will ease our dead space itch a bit!
Yes i definitly think it will i got definite dead space vibes.
@@ProjectACHERON its made by the guys who created Visceral studios
Dead space remake was announced, if that deosenr scratch your itch.. it may not be a new game but damn a remake of the original is so welcomed!
It didn't.
@@zshivkonezshivkov380 NG+ actually did for me. Second run with credits to spare was sooooooooooooo much more fun!
Where's Thanos when you need him?
Yes some infinity stones would do them well right about now !
Project: ACHERON if he doesn’t get here I’ll help
i wonder what would happen if marker infected a xinomorph colony
That would be sheer chaos
Man i love Dead Space. So glad i found this video 2 years later lol. Had no idea what the markers were for all I knew when I played was kicking in an alien’s face and vent jump scares lol
It's sad visceral was never able to to finish their story (let's hope they will someday). We also gotta remember that this is just a game and lot things were added just to push the story and gameplay.
Yeah I know it’s sad but at least we received what we did have to count the wins!
I mean, you could say that the story is finished. The brethren moons arrived at earth. We don’t see anything after that, but do you really need to to know the earth was ravaged by the necromorphs?
@@codybarlik4524 Could've certainly been a game where they return to Earth and its in absolute chaos as there's a global necro outbreak. South America gets totally scooped up and if they aren't somehow stopped within maybe 6 months Earth is going to be looking like the red planet. Tons of possible environments that the game could take place in, with some great scenes as you look in the distance and see on the edge of the horizon just a massive, flesh moon sucking up everything into it, slowly moving towards you.
@@techelitesareadisease8816 It'd make for a cool sequence if you had to plunge into the bottom of the ocean in order to reach the Black Marker, while the moons above you are having a gigantic feeding frenzy on the surface.
A crossover from deadspace to doom would be so awesome I loved both books they had maybe the necromorph was a prequal to the opening of universes idk
Possibly I dont know much or anything about doom
This is the most psychotic story on earth.
haha yeah just a little.
When I was a kid, I was very obsessed with dead space and would draw markers/necromorphs constantly and on everything lol. Many teachers made calls to my mom in those days lmao
My theory:The markers were created as a power sorce by unknown alien race. But they also messed with other things to attempt to make the marker a godly power sorce. But during some testing they messed with one of the factors causing the marker to do what it does and unknowingly creating a universal that could end all life. (Also Dead space has a great story sad the series is over)
Same here my friend
Well I have news for you....
Marker = Great Filter
Haha yes i suppose!
The necromorphs reminded me so much of the flood. I'm just glad they couldn't use guns
Yeah lucky for everyone!
well in the dead space 3 they sort of could
Honestly, I wish more people would acknowledge the obvious retcon Visceral did with the marker between 1 and 2. It's pretty clear the markers in the first game existed to protect people from necromorphs. It has a "dead space" around it that stops necromorph from getting close to it, it kills/suppresses all the necromorphs on Aegis VII with a pedestal it made other humans make, it even disengages the tethers holding up the planet chunk on Aegis VII, sacrificing itself to end the necromorph threat. This wasn't initially meant to be a malicious entity, those actions don't jive at all with anything else in the games.
Interesting
As someone who recently got interested in Dead Space lore, I was thinking the exact same thing myself.
Yeah i suppose i don’t mind to much but i cant see where others would be unhappy
Please ellaborate more
What’s to elaborate? I don’t mind where they took the lore and franchise after the first game but I can see how other would have thought differently !
Thanks for the Marker lore video. So happy my favorite Horror Game is getting re-MADE, early 2023! 🤞🏽
Same here!
fabulous job - your deep dives are thoroughly enjoyable please keep doing them :)
Thank you! Will do!
When I was a kid I made a marker with toothpicks for a school project, the kids went mad
Im sure they would!
I can appreciate all the work and research you put into this :) Awesome stuff! It's a tad jarring when you stutter from time to time tho, which I cannot fault you for!! One of the best 'tricks' I learned for this is to follow a rigid script, and to rehearse in a mirror (even tho nobody sees you, it helps you to be more conscious of your actions.) I know this is an older vid but I hope it helps you! Definitely gonna subscribe! Keep up the good work :)
Definitely appreciate the support and the criticism, means a lot to hear genuine feedback aimed to help me improve. Yes it is an old video and i have been making strives to do exactly what you have said, create better scripts and practice reading them and also to do as many retakes as is needed. Thanks so much for your time, i hope you continue to enjoy the content!
I could see them as being a Bio weapon similar to the Xenomorph in Aliens only in a much larger scale. I've always thought the species that made the original marker was in a war. One in which they were losing terribly. They created the Black marker and left it to be found by their enemy and take back to their home world. Once there and with sufficient population density the replication phase would begin creating the red markers. Then necrotic phase would take over. That, mixed with mass suicidal and psychotic behavior brought on by the markers at this stage would wipe out their enemy in one action. They would ultimately lose the war being whipped out but their Trojan horse made it the its destination and fulfilled its purpose. As for the creation of more back markers I think it was a fail safe made in case they did lose. To propagate the black markers to ensure they took their enemy with them. It is likely they built a fail safe into the black markers to disable production of more but with none left to give the shutdown command they will continue to propagate through out the universe until no biological diversity remains.
I heard a theory from someone that they could be an extreme form of population control that results in them becoming a new planet for a new population to live on? But yeah i dont know
The only way in theory to stop the markers and the brethren moons is by finding the original civilization which made the markers and shutting down them all.
If it even possible to do so. It likely that the original civilisation couldn’t control it and it was able to wipe them out however. I really think that would make for an awesome fourth entry into the franchise. With the brethren moons amassing towards earth, our last hope is to seek out the origin of the necromorphs markers signal by tracing it to their point of origin and shouting the transmission down from its source.
@@ProjectACHERON maybe they should make a novel or comic about it
Yeah basically anything in terms of a continuation I would go for!
The necromorphs are kind of like the flood from the halo universe...its also a collected biomass wich want to rule the galaxy
yeah there are definitely similarities
So this is whats going to happen December 2020. I hate myself for making that joke
I mean at this stage I can’t really say no haha 😂👍🏻
@@ProjectACHERON last night I was up late thinking about this and then realized that the universe is so big and there are so many different galaxies and solar systems that something like dead space is probably happening. Spooky
Yeah the sheer scale that the universe is, means it’s likely that somewhere along the lines everything to can ever imagine has happened, it’s likely something very similar to the necromorph is out there right now!!
*is visibly terrified*
@@aevvah_flxwer8550 *Calls in the Doomslayer*
Thanks for the good content!
DLC: Awakened ending, but I suspect that convergence has been achieved on the Earth side and the Earth's Brethren Moon has taken over the function.
The damage from the marker terrorist attack by Danic and his team was so severe that the Earth government forces on the lunar colony only had one battalion left, but Norton's platoon and Isaac didn't have time to neutralize the moon markers.
If the ending Brethren Moons were simply coming to Earth, the DLC storyline was correct that they should return to Earth and warn them as soon as possible. If a signal comes from one moon of Tau Volantis to another, then that signal will reach the Earth markers, and the Earth markers will continue to send out messages to the other markers and the moons about their whereabouts.
Also, I made Japanese subtitles for this video, I'm not sure how youtube works, but I heard it's being vetted. Check it out if you'd like.
That’s awesome thanks so much for that my friend! And i really want a dead space 4 where its humanity on its last legs maybe a sole fleet of ships with the remaining humans or something fleeing a lost earth and attempting to find a last ditch way to destroy the convergence.
It's the only video that actually made me understand what the hell a Marker is. Nice job😌👍🏻
Hey Acheron, I have a Dead SPace consipracy theory:
What if the Marker is actually real and it influenced the minds of Video Game Developers into making the Dead Space games to foreshadow what it has planned for humanity?
I mean that would be pretty disturbing and quite worrying, id be preparing for the coming apocolypse..... i have to go now.
@@ProjectACHERON Don't be Afraid. The Marker has a Plan for us all. We will all be united as one mind 👀
Gee lucky us
Just finished Dead Space 1 and got a few questions. I wonder why the hive mind final boss and the army of necromorphs want to stop Issac(already guided by marker created vision of Nicole) from bringing the marker back to the planet(make us whole)? And Kendra as well as the guy killed by Kendra(the one hallucinating his dead wife) said the marker can suppress the necromorphs? Aren't the marker and the necros on the same side?
The hive mind and the necromorphs were not trying to stop issac, from bringing the marker back to its pedestal. I will try to explain as best i can, as briefly as i can.
First off. Disregard a lot of what you have heard of the markers whilest reading this.
The black marker is just the same as red markers. All markers have the same goal and function the only difference is the convergence marker has a pedestal which helps regulates its energy when an outbreak is happening. This is key to understanding how the markers function, to answer your questions. Markers actually power necromorphs. With the help of a recombinat virus a portion of the marker signal is what is getting the necromorphs up and about. The recombinant is what is responsible for the mutations and genetic information on how a necromorph behaves. The markers DO NOT cause mutations through its signal.
So think of the markers, as among other things as wireless power generators (very basic). What this energy is the marker is able to use is unknown, and my own theory is at the sci fi part of "i just know how the cells are able to induct this energy". But the more necromorphs, the more energy output is needed. So, along comes humans and takes the marker from it pedestal, this triggers an change in the energy output of the marker, alerting all nearby necros, hivemind included.
Now dr Kein came to the realisation of what the marker was (or his own version based on his own knowledge) and thought the way to stop the outbreak, was to return it to the planet. And because the marker was affecting him, he used his dead wife to spur him on in his goal. Issac himself was then convinced by dr kein, so he too - without himself knowing anything about the marker, continues the mission to put it back on it pedestal. And because he was also being affected by the signal, he used his dead girlfriend to comfort him and give him advice. The marker itself was not implanting these memories of nicole, it was issac all along. The marker was the thing causing the changes in his brain causing him to go mad.
The necromorphs are not thinking planning entities. They have base instincts present in them from base genetic information. When issac returned and placed the marker back. The reason the necromorphs were destroyed in the vicinity was simply a spike in energy output from the marker, and this energy was to much for the already irradiated necros, so they were destroyed. This obviously had a limited range, but it was not some intricate plan by the markers. The same as the reason there is a dead zone around the markers, the marker is repelling them due to electromagnetic repulsion. It's not the markers protecting humans.
I hope that helps.
Thank you
The new alien movies just want to be Dead Space movies lol
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@@ProjectACHERON Prometheus etc
Imagine if there’s a Dead Space prequel where it sets during the extinction of the dinosaurs with dinosaurs as the protagonists, that’d be awesome!
Perfectly Explained
Thanks !
Better watch out man that’s unitology talk
Hahha nice!
Personally I support 3 ideas: 1 - Failed technology like in Terminator, a new tool that went out of control 2 - Biomass translation instrument as in War of the Worlds, use the moons to converge, translate, sterilize and make ready for harvest 3 - Next step of evolution, the moons ain't the original makers, they're what they made themselves into and began a new species, far more advanced.
all fantastic ideas!
Dead space 4 would have been the greatest game ever. Imagine a desperate fight for earth trying to take out the brethren moons, perhaps culminating with destroying a super brethren moon that's made from earth via some superweapon or causing the sun to supernova. You save humanity but lose earth, all bitter sweet like.
couldnt agree more!
hey man uh, good video. Just edit out your mistakes.
Yes I know I’m sure I have made strides lately to fix stuff like that and I hope to keep getting better.
Thanks, but i really do want to improve for you all!
I think it's kinda charming tbh
Thanks guys, means alot!
@@ProjectACHERON keep up the great content!!
i'd say the creators created a bio weapon and fucked up somehwere in the process....again Scientists should never attempt to play god.
Thats probably the most plausible solution the the problem. But there are still alot of other possibilities.
Im pretty sure they f**ked around with mutagens.
The fact that they possessed this advanced technology almost 65 million years ago or longer just makes me think who they are and why they made the markers! And what kind of powers they possess
I don’t think any series captures the danger of Blind Belief better than Dead Space.
2:20 minutes in and you managed to invent informations about the markers..... Bravo! I will stop here and ask to anyone that is watching this to stop and find an other RUclips channel if they want the proper informations.
what info did he make up?
Utah Monolith guys?
Haha yeah I've seen that circling the internet
Some weird cuts in the video but besides that good video, keep up the great work
Thank you very much will try and improve in the future !
As a dead space fanatic I appreciate how many people cover lore on the necromorph on unitology and the markers themselves I know I've watched this before but I got nothing better to do lol
Necromorph dinosaurs... are u kidding that would be NUTS lmao
Interesting but there a few flaws.
1. Main part of biomass on the planet is single cell organisms. Humans and even all animals together are nothing comparing to mass of all bacteria and archaea. It is silly to harvest people.
2. All organisms including us are just biomachines and dead organism is a very broken machine. Nobody expects that broken car will move again on its own for obvious reasons. Those reasons are the same for dead bodies and cells.
3. Space and especially orbit of a planet that has magnetic field is not the best place for biomass. Radiation and extreme temperatures can very fast turn biomass into simple organic molecules that are already present in space in huge quantities. And appearance of that meat planets doesn't reveal any protective crust or strong magnetic shield.
4. If that marker can't survive collision of planets, how it survived crushing on Earth? For so small object like marker it's the same as be squashed by two planets. There was enough energy to detach atoms from each other unless it had landing mechanism. But it is shown in the game that marker doesn't have any moving parts or active protection, or engines.
5. Biomass decays over time. To protect it from decomposition you need to freeze it or it has to be alive so it could constantly repair itself at molecular level. And to do this biomass requires very specific conditions and multilayer shielding: magnetic for solar wind, ozone for UV, oxygen for X-ray. Meat planet doesn't have any of this.
I want to address your main point in my 5000th subs video!
We don't exactly know the components of these markers and variations so this is all possible. Or it's actual intentions vs misuse of the marker either. A Dead Space 4 would and should answer most of what we don't know. Advanced alien technology that defies what applies to us or what we know of evolution.
They harvest all life but to do so theyneedintelligentlifeto spread the markers around so that the convergence is anything but inevitable
Dead space 2 still holds up as an excellent game (I bought for my XBox and it’s so good
i agree!
I never played but since I played Mass Effect Legendary Edition and heard about Dead Space I got obsessed with it. The Brethren Moons make the Borg seem like puppies.
Two things, contact with an event horizon of a black hole will not destroy an object outright, it will however vanish from the universe for the most part, unable to leave and falling toward the singularity. Second another possible way to destroy a marker would be to send it into a star, turning it to plasma and destroying it's structure completely.
Altman was never assassinated, he was killed in the research station by a necromorph I believe, havent gone through the book entirely yet but I’m pretty sure that’s what happened
I was speaking more in terms of an outsiders view on the events however it’s likely I got a few things wrong so please forgive that.
Project: ACHERON you weren’t wrong though, technically the government did kill him by SPOILERS having a necromorph kill him so it was a 50/50 on accounts, I just finished the book too
I think Brethren moons are effectively impossible. First of all the amount of living organic tissue on earth for example is minuscule compared to all other matter. Definitely not enough to form a moon. Meteor maybe.
Secondly the solar radiation would annihilate all organic tissue, necrotic even. I just don’t see them existing at all.
PS I understand it’s a game, just for arguments sake
The wiki says the moons when first formed go to other planets to continue harvesting, I'd imagine the moons we see in game are all that large due to harvesting dozens if not hundreds of planets biomass.
Okay... so what I'm getting out of this is that Dead Space is a galactic meatball simulator.
I like to think at some point the multiversal universal union will eventually encounter the markers. It would be interesting to see how their tech and advanced influence is affected and dealt with by the moons.
The who?
@@ProjectACHERON the combine from half life 2 are clearly stated to rule over several universes in the multiverse, I'd be interested to see their tactics and technological prowess go up against the flood or necromorphs.
Yeah that would be a fair fight to be sure!
It would be an interesting apocalypse if the Combine ended up influenced by the markers into dispersing them across the multiverse. At first they might just consider them to be another tool just like headcrabs, but end up becoming reliant on its energy and having their advisors be possessed by the intelligence inside the markers. Instead of citadels, they might have clusters of organic Dyson spheres for every universe they own.
There's also the lack of certainty about just how high their power scales, or if they even have limits. If the Brethren moons can combine into a galaxy-wide network, what stops them from becoming a multi galactic union? Or a pan universal union? Or even a trans universal union? We can infer from the DS3 DLC, and the implications of humans having unlocked FTL/wormhole travel from the markers, that the moons are capable of in-universe teleportation, which gives them an advantage over the Combine.
Why would hurling the marker at a planet destroy it? Markers are apparently sent hurtling into space to collide with planets. But this is a good video? Thanks.
Yeah I suppose that's a bit of a loop hole
I would love to see a scp thing similer to this that would be cool
Yeah im not sure i dont follow the SCP very closley but i would guess there is something similar to it somewhere inbetween there.
That's what I was thinking.
Just replay this game a days ago. Still wishing for this game to continue
Yeah we neeeded a fourth eentry into the franchise!
Markers are a way of the depopulation of a galaxy without ever firing a shot.
Yeah it could be alot of things but some kind of anti evolution or population control bio machine is a very interesting one!
As horrific as the brethren moons are you've got to admit their Thicc.
Oh yeah, THIC AS FUCK BOI
Personally, I see the Markers as something like John Carpenter’s “The Thing,” in that it contains or simply is a form of life so far evolved beyond our comprehension of xenobiology that it has attained complete and total control over its own physical form, all the way down to the genetic level. In the case of the Markers, though, they are a form of life that has evolved even beyond the basic genetic mastery of the Thing’s “Supercell.” The “Craftsmen”, as I’ll now refer to the hypothetical makers of the Markers, weren’t just able to manipulate the building blocks of life itself, NOT ONLY were they able to unlock the secrets of cellular reanimation on a planet-wide scale, but they were ALSO able to somehow transfer their conscious minds into and live eternally within vessels made entirely from inorganic material; the Markers. Over the span of their infinite existence, these Craftsmen may have gained such a sublime, transcendent view of “life” that to them, life and death are simply two states of being which they can manipulate in the same way we might simply flip a switch to turn the lights in a room off or on at our leisure. Maybe the spreading of the Markers across the cosmos REALLY IS meant to be a gift from the Craftsmen to show other forms of intelligent life that death can be transcended. But since they are so far beyond our ordinary stages of life bound by death, they are no longer capable of understanding that more primitive forms of sentient life simply aren’t ready to partake in Convergence. That to sacrifice biological individuality at the young age our species is at the series’s start causes existential trauma and devastation that VASTLY overshadows any good that could possibly come from the Craftsmen’s Convergence. I dunno. I just find it interesting to consider the possibility that the Brethren Moons actually harbor no hostility at all towards younger intelligent life forms and genuinely mean well. But their vast power and transcendent perception of life and the universe as a whole makes their every move and every attempt at communication feel cosmically threatening to less-evolved life forms still bound by the permanence of death.
Yeah, i agree that the first moon is actually creators making the marker and using it on themselves to evolve. After they became the moon they just start conquering the universe by converting everything alive to other moons. Sort of assimilation process. Maybe the end goal is to merge all the moons together. No idea how they'd figure out there's nothing alive in the universe anymore.
Then why do the moons seem to have the exact same urges that their pray does - to gorge and to breed? How can they transcend life and death if a frozen moon on Tau Volantis immediately calls for it’s brothers to feast on yet another dumb enough civilisation to fall into their trap, DESPITE their Black Marker trying to warn and stop them? I think the true transcendent beings are the Crafters who created the Markers in the first place. Markers are not “evil” (which would mean “trying to evolve an intelligent race into a uniform flying meatball”) in and of themselves. there are multiple examples in the DS universe, which showcase that Markers are trying to resist the Convergence and the moons’ influence (eg red Marker showed Isaac and Dr. Kyne how to stop the tragedy on Aegis and Ishimura).
Very interesting and informative video. Always wondered about the markers. You sure cleared it up for me. Thank you. It was needed.
Now worries my friend glad I could help!!
Man, could you imagine a necromorph T-Rex!? So beautiful, and yet, so horrible.
Really love your DS lore vids man!
Glad you like them!
nice vid
Thank you !
22:45 heh, I like that word.
nice haha
I got a feeling you’ve never played the games before and are reading from a script/book
It’s all fun and games till the human species is on the other end of an alien experiment.
Haha yeah pretty much
*YES!*
My Current intrepretation of The Markers being either interdimensional objects that are able to 'mend' the flesh at micro or even atomic levels (some necromorphs are actuall ''alive'' lifeforms) and/or rouge *monoliths* (A.İ.) that destroyed their creator race and all species around the galaxies that spread through the universe, got required repurpose and recreate and 'harvest' life for themselves (however this could be their creator species purpose as well, as if the creator species being either fanatic purificationists as the white plant aliens from Ben10 and Species from Stellaris)
In my view Necromorphs are potentially more powerfull and spreadable compared to the Flood
Oh yeah i would say the Markers and Necromorphs are way more deadly that the Flood and far more likely to spread and encompass the bio mass of an entire galaxy. Whatever the markers origins it was obviously something very advanced and very morally questionable that lead to their creation!
@@ProjectACHERON İndeed, I cannot imagine what type of Lifeform could possibly ever want to create this type of artifacts
It's really nice to have the whole lore behind the Markers in one place. There's so much going on and to piece together. And I never played the Dead Space 3 DLC so there's probably a lot I don't know about. I knew about the eldrich horror style planets, but didn't know anything else about them. Also can't remember jack all of DS3's story other than it's hamfisted love triangle and poorly detailed and animated faces lol. Thank you for making this, especially now with the Dead Space remake. Hope they resurrect the original Dead Space 4 script some day.
Excellent work dude.
Thank you! Cheers!
I wish there was a dead space 4
Same here my friend!
We all do, brother.
Instead of markers and necromorphs we have ebola and corona virus lmao
Haha very true you guys haha 😂👍🏻
The Red Marker was found on Aegis 7 and Earth. Who on Earth, would bring the marker to Aegis 7!? I watch the movie Dead Space downfall: in beginning three people we're scouting on Aegis 7 and they found the Marker. Which is, it looked like black. But it was supposed to be red, not black. The black marker was the one built on Titan station. When I play Dead Space... it looks similar to the movie Resident Evil and Alien. Alien Resurrection, I watch the trailer. I heard a song. That freaks me out. I'm not afraid of it, just it freaks me out. And Resident Evil. Zombies: biting and infected humans. Necromorphs: bite to kill. Not bite to kill and infected humans.
hey whose worse the marker/necromorph horde or the flood?
Necrmorphs proabably maybe the flood though
I think the flood is worse cause they retain their own mind but no motor control of there body and they also can take over a ship's control with enough biomass present.
The flood by far
Yeah the floods pretty op
I'd say both are equally deadly. The flood are just a tad bit worse since they can use weapons and can fly ships. I would honestly rather deal with zombies than either the flood or necromorphs