@@12dreams Unfortunate, but true. Yet there's a comment expressing that wishful thinking on every one of Al's podcasts which no doubt he's tired of seeing.
I so agree. What a loss for all of us. Al Franken was one of the better senators. I will never forgive Kirsten Gillibrand for throwing Al under the bus.
I dunno. I can think of a whole bunch of people whose full potential is a baaad thing. Consider the obvious: Fat Guy. Fat Guy's incompetence was for four years the main protection of the Republic and is even now the one thing protecting the Constitution.
Mr. Franken, Sir, there's an observation I like to share with friends from Texas and Florida that I think would work best in your voice. I like to say to them "You've been exposed to 100 degrees Fahrenheit, and that's hot." and they usually go "Yeah, yeah." Then I continue with "And you've probably been exposed to 30 degrees Fahrenheit, and that's cold." And they usually go "Yeah, that's really cold." Then I continue with "That's a difference of 70 degrees. Here in Minnesota it has to get 70 degrees colder than THAT before we close the schools." And then there's usually a "Holy crap."
HAHA! I know it's ridiculous. But in the spirit of "who cares what nation your ancestors are from". Can you do the job? It's not getting much better than it was from the beginning of our nation. Superior race my butt.
Somehow must’ve missed this back when but good listen today~ty💙 Question I have is can we talk indigenous reparations as well? Some indigenous who signed up with tribal council contracts got things like $$$ and built casinos etc Then there’s ppl like my tribe who did not and still suffered racism and all it’s BS struggles even today Most of my ppl were from central America and of Mayan decent but migrated here and managed to survive mostly. We should take a look at what’s going on in just over the southern border seriously. Those of us who are on this side still see racial profiling in daily life so yeah this country IS racist is my take.
I think the problem with the argument of systemic racism is, poor or working class white people are not included in the equation. For instance, a poor white kid is not going to attend an elite school located in a wealthy neighborhood. But they're experiencing the same challenges as poor black or Latino kids. I grew up in a working class family. My dad belonged to a union and was paid hourly. We never had any money. I got a college degree but at a state university located in an urban city. (My folks couldn't afford to send me away to college.) I had a lot more hurdles to climb over than some of my wealthier white friends. And being female, I was continuously discouraged from pursuing a career in traditionally male occupations. I'm 68 today, and I'm still struggling to find my footing. The good news is, I haven't given up. I'll never give up until I can't work anymore because I'm physically unable or I'm dead.
@@WJV9 no question about it. But 40+ years ago I was told I couldn't hold a film camera because it was too heavy. I should be home having babies. Just about all of us have had experiences of prejudice unless you're white and male. It's just a matter of degree.
I believe that the country is systematically racist. I'm white, but witnessed a white bias when I played jazz. I was the white guy, and saw white people ignore bandmates and come to me like I was the bandleader, even though the rest of the musicians were well dressed, church going, sober guys and I was the perpetually stoned longhair who wore shorts to gigs.
I am white and as a young woman I had overstayed my Visa & Immigration visited the restaurant while I was setting up. I just kept my mouth shut knowing that if they didn't hear my accent they weren't looking for me. THAT is white privilege.
Al! For Pete's sake! Is there ANYTHING to be done for the ADS?!? This fabulous interview was knocked off by toxic poop and women should shave their faces to remove wrinkles. Those two ads were spaced just 30 SECONDS APART! I'm screaming at YT so hard, I'm not hearing you or what your guest is saying AND ITS IMPORTANT! Help!
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I’m not prejudiced but …I’m not. I discovered the ignorance that is pervasive in Milwaukee when I moved there. Do you know that in that town they call drinking fountains bubblers! Do you actually think it would be in the best interest of my company to hire people as inarticulate as that? The next thing you know your going to make me hire people from Minnesota.
Question: at the end of WWII, did black service members receive the same benefits as non-black service members? (e.g. G.I. bill for home purchase & education)
No they most certainly did not. Also, Black Americans as a whole were denied cheap loans that were being distributed across the nation and were subject to redlining. The nation cheated itself out of trillions in wealth due to racist legislation, banking, and real estate practices. See John Oliver's 30 minute segment on housing discrimination. ruclips.net/video/_-0J49_9lwc/видео.html&ab_channel=LastWeekTonight
Sadly, if understandably, there is no test that can determine human potential. History is full of Einsteins and Shakespeares who were poor or indifferent students as kids who went on to singular achievements. A larger problem is the transition of American higher education institutions to becoming advanced trade schools run like businesses rather than their original focus on developing the essential tools to fully enable the human mind.
When you go to the Doctor you're not necessarily getting the best and the brightest, but rather someone who could pay the tuition. Likely the smartest kid in school will never have the opportunity to realise their potential. It's quite disgusting to see how College's, especially Land Grant Universities have become greedy with ridiculously large endowments etc. When they won't even pay faculty a living wage.
I can't make the racist/murderer analogy work. Someone can be a former racist in the sense that they no longer believe another person with different skin color is inferior. Is it right to call that person a racist after they change there reasoning?
46:53 Yes, slavery has been important to economic growth for the entire recorded history of mankind. Perhaps longer. However, conflating slavery with racism does not make sense. Slavery didn't just happen to black people from Africa; it happened to Aztecs, Mayans, Egyptians, Jews, Muslims, Uyghurs, and just about everyone at various times and places. One could argue persuasively that a form of "slavery" exists today in the US. People who are paid less than a living wage are forced to work extra hard while simultaneously forfeiting many of the freedoms enjoyed by Middle Class and up. Easy credit makes many people increasingly indentured to banks and other lenders. Slavery is about cheap labor. The racism element is incidental. It might be easier to enslave various ethnic groups because they lack power, but racism is not the cause of slavery. How to combat slavery? Stop focusing on racism, and become active against actual slavery. Encourage manufacturers to return to the USA. Tell your friends to stop being fooled by liars, and vote for less-slavery-oriented politicians. Unfortunately, both major parties are pretty bad at this. Andrew Yang, Adam Kinzinger, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are among the leaders in fighting modern slavery. And, of course, Bernie Sanders. The thing that is difficult to change about racism is that we have millions of years of genetic history to be suspicious of "strangers". That is not going to change easily or quickly. What _can_ we do to combat racism? White women marrying black men seems like a winning strategy. It might take a few generations, but eventually everyone will be brown. And by this I mean inter-racial marriages of all kinds, of course.
This conversation was not about slavery, it was about racism, and although there are areas that overlap, they are not the same thing. We have an abundance of hate and prejudice for all. However you put people in a group, other groups will oppose them. The issue that stands out the most IS the one concerning African Americans, and there is the fact that most of their ancestors were slaves. That's why you can't talk about racism without slavery being part of the problem. We cannot go back and change it. We have to move forward. We changed the laws, but that didn't end it. It's a long-term battle commitment we have to be a part of and never give up on because we have to change people to win it. No one is born racist, it is a learned condition. Your suggestion of interracial marriage is a tad silly, only because there already are millions of people who have ancestors of a variety. I would think that most Americans have at least some Native American and African American blood. We are all people, and that's the way it is.
@@Tam5115 ALL people have African blood. That's where we came from. You're missing the point about racism. All people (in fact, all mammals) are born with an inherited distrust for people we do not know. That's where racism comes from. It is (mostly) not learned. We can address the part that IS learned, but the rest is going to be there for the foreseeable future. Better to find ways to cope with it (including further refining equal-rights laws) rather than wishing it might stop.
I would love to see you return to Washington as a lawmaker.
@@12dreams Unfortunate, but true. Yet there's a comment expressing that wishful thinking on every one of Al's podcasts which no doubt he's tired of seeing.
I so agree. What a loss for all of us. Al Franken was one of the better senators. I will never forgive Kirsten Gillibrand for throwing Al under the bus.
@@1223steffen - No trial or proof of sexual misconduct. He quit because he didn't want to become a distraction for the party.
Good show. It should be easy to agree that we all benefit when everyone is able to realize their full potential.
I dunno. I can think of a whole bunch of people whose full potential is a baaad thing.
Consider the obvious: Fat Guy.
Fat Guy's incompetence was for four years the main protection of the Republic and is even now the one thing protecting the Constitution.
It is extremely ironic that people will destroy everyone around them just to keep certain people down.
Thanks for the quick & simplified lesson on CRT & the 1619 project.
Surprising, once again, for a change, I learned something!
Mr. Franken, Sir, there's an observation I like to share with friends from Texas and Florida that I think would work best in your voice. I like to say to them "You've been exposed to 100 degrees Fahrenheit, and that's hot." and they usually go "Yeah, yeah." Then I continue with "And you've probably been exposed to 30 degrees Fahrenheit, and that's cold." And they usually go "Yeah, that's really cold." Then I continue with "That's a difference of 70 degrees. Here in Minnesota it has to get 70 degrees colder than THAT before we close the schools." And then there's usually a "Holy crap."
This second hearing was even better than the first…albeit the same material but each time with ‘new ears’.
What if job applications had no space for names? Only qualifications and contact info?
Name? Huh... Maybe that's why I'm unemployed.
Contact information is a name. To
HAHA! I know it's ridiculous. But in the spirit of "who cares what nation your ancestors are from". Can you do the job? It's not getting much better than it was from the beginning of our nation. Superior race my butt.
Al, a great interview. As a 69 year I learn a lot but how long will I remember it?
i LOVE michael harriot, this was a great interview. please have him on again, in 2022! happy new year, y'all.
Thank you for posting this podcast .
Somehow must’ve missed this back when but good listen today~ty💙
Question I have is can we talk indigenous reparations as well?
Some indigenous who signed up with tribal council contracts got things like $$$ and built casinos etc
Then there’s ppl like my tribe who did not and still suffered racism and all it’s BS struggles even today
Most of my ppl were from central
America and of Mayan decent but migrated here and managed to survive mostly.
We should take a look at what’s going on in just over the southern border seriously.
Those of us who are on this side still see racial profiling in daily life so yeah this country IS racist is my take.
Thanks for telling me it's a repeat. I looked up the other posting and found I'd already watched it.
Tour extended! woo hoo! 💃🕺
Good show. And the right argument for reparations. 👍🥰💝✌
Excellent show with Mr. Harriot, Al!
I think the problem with the argument of systemic racism is, poor or working class white people are not included in the equation. For instance, a poor white kid is not going to attend an elite school located in a wealthy neighborhood. But they're experiencing the same challenges as poor black or Latino kids. I grew up in a working class family. My dad belonged to a union and was paid hourly. We never had any money. I got a college degree but at a state university located in an urban city. (My folks couldn't afford to send me away to college.) I had a lot more hurdles to climb over than some of my wealthier white friends. And being female, I was continuously discouraged from pursuing a career in traditionally male occupations. I'm 68 today, and I'm still struggling to find my footing. The good news is, I haven't given up. I'll never give up until I can't work anymore because I'm physically unable or I'm dead.
Yes, but you didn't get turned down for an interview because of your color. You weren't assumed to be a 'welfare mom' or drug user, etc.
@@WJV9 no question about it. But 40+ years ago I was told I couldn't hold a film camera because it was too heavy. I should be home having babies.
Just about all of us have had experiences of prejudice unless you're white and male. It's just a matter of degree.
I believe that the country is systematically racist. I'm white, but witnessed a white bias when I played jazz. I was the white guy, and saw white people ignore bandmates and come to me like I was the bandleader, even though the rest of the musicians were well dressed, church going, sober guys and I was the perpetually stoned longhair who wore shorts to gigs.
I am white and as a young woman I had overstayed my Visa & Immigration visited the restaurant while I was setting up.
I just kept my mouth shut knowing that if they didn't hear my accent they weren't looking for me. THAT is white privilege.
Critical race theory should be mandatory in law enforcement academies : police, Cia , fbi, and another alphabet soup.
Great show. This was a real masterclass.
Great discussion. Thank you.
Al! For Pete's sake! Is there ANYTHING to be done for the ADS?!? This fabulous interview was knocked off by toxic poop and women should shave their faces to remove wrinkles. Those two ads were spaced just 30 SECONDS APART!
I'm screaming at YT so hard, I'm not hearing you or what your guest is saying AND ITS IMPORTANT!
Help!
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Another good one, for a change. I'm starting to sense a trend.
Thanks!
Where's that Minnesota tour date??????
I’m not prejudiced but …I’m not. I discovered the ignorance that is pervasive in Milwaukee when I moved there. Do you know that in that town they call drinking fountains bubblers! Do you actually think it would be in the best interest of my company to hire people as inarticulate as that? The next thing you know your going to make me hire people from Minnesota.
Question: at the end of WWII, did black service members receive the same benefits as non-black service members? (e.g. G.I. bill for home purchase & education)
No they most certainly did not. Also, Black Americans as a whole were denied cheap loans that were being distributed across the nation and were subject to redlining. The nation cheated itself out of trillions in wealth due to racist legislation, banking, and real estate practices. See John Oliver's 30 minute segment on housing discrimination.
ruclips.net/video/_-0J49_9lwc/видео.html&ab_channel=LastWeekTonight
Sadly, if understandably, there is no test that can determine human potential. History is full of Einsteins and Shakespeares who were poor or indifferent students as kids who went on to singular achievements. A larger problem is the transition of American higher education institutions to becoming advanced trade schools run like businesses rather than their original focus on developing the essential tools to fully enable the human mind.
When you go to the Doctor you're not necessarily getting the best and the brightest, but rather someone who could pay the tuition. Likely the smartest kid in school will never have the opportunity to realise their potential. It's quite disgusting to see how College's, especially Land Grant Universities have become greedy with ridiculously large endowments etc. When they won't even pay faculty a living wage.
seems odd that franken did not disclose that he went to a private prep school and then harvard so was not a part of the public school system ...
Why did you feel the need to use “black writer” in the description? Isn’t just “writer” good enough?
I can't make the racist/murderer analogy work. Someone can be a former racist in the sense that they no longer believe another person with different skin color is inferior. Is it right to call that person a racist after they change there reasoning?
FRANKEN '24
46:53 Yes, slavery has been important to economic growth for the entire recorded history of mankind. Perhaps longer.
However, conflating slavery with racism does not make sense. Slavery didn't just happen to black people from Africa; it happened to Aztecs, Mayans, Egyptians, Jews, Muslims, Uyghurs, and just about everyone at various times and places.
One could argue persuasively that a form of "slavery" exists today in the US. People who are paid less than a living wage are forced to work extra hard while simultaneously forfeiting many of the freedoms enjoyed by Middle Class and up. Easy credit makes many people increasingly indentured to banks and other lenders.
Slavery is about cheap labor. The racism element is incidental. It might be easier to enslave various ethnic groups because they lack power, but racism is not the cause of slavery.
How to combat slavery? Stop focusing on racism, and become active against actual slavery. Encourage manufacturers to return to the USA. Tell your friends to stop being fooled by liars, and vote for less-slavery-oriented politicians. Unfortunately, both major parties are pretty bad at this. Andrew Yang, Adam Kinzinger, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are among the leaders in fighting modern slavery. And, of course, Bernie Sanders.
The thing that is difficult to change about racism is that we have millions of years of genetic history to be suspicious of "strangers". That is not going to change easily or quickly.
What _can_ we do to combat racism? White women marrying black men seems like a winning strategy. It might take a few generations, but eventually everyone will be brown. And by this I mean inter-racial marriages of all kinds, of course.
This conversation was not about slavery, it was about racism, and although there are areas that overlap, they are not the same thing. We have an abundance of hate and prejudice for all. However you put people in a group, other groups will oppose them. The issue that stands out the most IS the one concerning African Americans, and there is the fact that most of their ancestors were slaves. That's why you can't talk about racism without slavery being part of the problem.
We cannot go back and change it. We have to move forward. We changed the laws, but that didn't end it. It's a long-term battle commitment we have to be a part of and never give up on because we have to change people to win it. No one is born racist, it is a learned condition.
Your suggestion of interracial marriage is a tad silly, only because there already are millions of people who have ancestors of a variety. I would think that most Americans have at least some Native American and African American blood. We are all people, and that's the way it is.
@@Tam5115 ALL people have African blood. That's where we came from.
You're missing the point about racism. All people (in fact, all mammals) are born with an inherited distrust for people we do not know. That's where racism comes from. It is (mostly) not learned.
We can address the part that IS learned, but the rest is going to be there for the foreseeable future. Better to find ways to cope with it (including further refining equal-rights laws) rather than wishing it might stop.
Does everyone else have a commercial every five minutes? I am out.
Michael Harriot is an awesome guy. This truly wasn't a great podcast Al.