Mitsubishi F-2 Viper Zero | The Japanese cousin of the F-16
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- We are investigating the F-2, the 4.5th generation fighter of Japan. #F2 #ViperZero #JASDF
What is the support fighter concept?
Why did Japan not choose to continue the FS-X programme with the domestically developed fighters (Mitsubishi JF210 or Kawasaki's design)?
Why were there problems with the USA in the development process of the F-2?
Is the F-2, aka Viper Zero, a real 4.5th generation fighter?
00:00 Introduction
01:34 Support fighter concept
01:58 Programme history
07:01 Design
08:54 Variants
09:23 Specifications
10:38 Operational use
11:43 Analysis
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Contain misinfo propaganda against Russia and China. Both county's aircrafts didn't enter or "flew/ fly over" Japan.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 weeeh Your Jealous? That is not a Propaganda Bro
Japan prepare because Russians and Chinese Warships always sailing in the Japanese Islands., nice Japan
@@misterniceguy7997
Pathetic excuse and coverup by Japan. Both Russia observes and practices international rules on sailing pass by outside & through Japan's territory.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 how do You know that? Japan cannot react like that if Russia and China dont do a wrong moves and against the Law., excuses of Russia and China not accepted
Can we take a second to apppreciate the beautiful dark blue two-tone camo scheme
I love that scheme. So much better than the trend towards grey jets, and likely better in the maritime strike role.
Su-35 in two tone blue camo are also beautiful.
@@VanaeCavae ah yes, but it is more angular.
Its sexy...
For sure
I'm Japanese and I'm glad everyone is interested in Japanese fighter planes.
Interested and also glad we don't have to fight them.
Thank you for your F-4 phantoms; always lovely to see them flying
Arigato 🙏
I'm currently looking for one to purchase on either Amazon or ebay
@@patkawesa7046 Bought one yesterday...Pretty expensive, current chip shortages and geo-political tensions are turning most of the jet overpriced. Suggestion is better wait for a year or two, best if you decide after some more technological confirmations of the 6th gen!
Wow it is amazing how very small changes or adjustments can make such an enormous impact on a craft. The paint scheme for one, the wing increase and change of cockpit position sets this Viper on🔥
the f-2 had AESA radar very early, and they also put an aesa radar on air to air missiles.
the F-2 was actually the first AESA equipped fighter in history.
Every modern missile now will use AESA radar
Well Japan maybe the first to do it though
@@notificationguys5128 the AAM-4B already has a AESA Radar
@@notificationguys5128 Japan did it in 1995 !!!
@@markcooke5270 Don’t care about them 😉
What a coincidence, I was just playing with the F-2 Viper Super Kai in AC7.
Thanks for sharing. I always think that the F-2 looks prettier than the ordinary F-16.
The American F-16 is designed to be an air-to-ground attack aircraft and air-to-air interceptor... but the Japanese F-2 developed as a multi-role fighter with anti-ship capabilities! An all-around fighter/attack aircraft... because Japan cannot build power projecting aircraft carriers. Amazing.
Got to see one up close and talked to the pilot for a while. They are nothing like the F-16's we had at Hill AFB. They are much bigger and heavier. The wing is thicker and bigger, the tail is redesigned and you can see bulges on the fuselage for extra fuel. Inside the cockpit is completely different. The pilot said the US wouldn't sell them the HUD, fire control and avionics so everything is locally produced. It was a sharp looking fighting machine and it seems like a test bed for their next gen fighters.
I always had mixed feelings about F16, but when I saw the F2 I was like now were are talking, the anime version of Viper just looks much cooler than rest of the family...
16 is a flying dump truck. But un laden its a flat out ninja of the skies... well now an old man of one. F 22 is better by far
What were your mixed feeling RE the f16? Just curious as it’s been around a long time as a proven platform. Not trying to argue or anything I just wanted to hear your views about it - thanks!
Do you have any idea How weak F2 is compared to F16? F2 doesn't have as powerful land strike ability as F16 while cost much higher than it. Also F2 doesn't have
conformal fuel tank to expand its range and also equip the inferior electronic devices. By all means F2 is a failed project
@@donchen4906 Note that they are not an offensive military, their doctrine is defense of Home island. That's why they even have anti landing craft ATGM dedicated
@@joshuajoaquin5099 really? So are u saying the Japanese light carriers equipped with f35b were built for defense purpose? Or F15j equipped with anti-ship missile is for defense? Don't fool yourself
Japan developed this fighter because the combat range is too short for the F16.
F2： 450 nmi( 518 mi, 833 km) on ASM-2(530kg)×4, AAM-3(91 kg)×2, 600glDrop tank×2）
F16： 295 nmi (339 mi, 546 km) on a hi-lo-hi mission with 4 × 1,000 lb (454 kg) bombs
But it's slower and the new f16 have a longer range than you stated
@@dannywaller4397much much longer in fact.
Currently, JASDF is officially not using the word 'support fighter jet' since 2005, same as Attack aircraft, there isn't special meaning.
Air superiority fighter had been replaced almost per decade.
F86F→F104→F4Phantom→F15
Dozens F86F couldn't retire, and had been reused as a bomber, it was the begining of support fighter jet. Support fighter jet didn't be changed soon as like this video's history, last one was deployed until 1980.
1:48 F-1's lifespan was enlarged 3500h to 4050h.
4:20 Agile Falcon was offered plan to Europe, not Japan. US offered plan to Japan is called (agile falcon based ) F-16 SX-3(Plan only) which has 1m shorter length than F-2, and wasn't enough data to be a reference. F-2's LERX is wide but the Agile falcon at the time is designed as the name, didn't have large LERX like the illustration.
The wing area has similarity but F-2's wing area is unofficially approx. 375 sq ft on the web, length, weight, purpose,required combat ranges, wide LERX are totally different. If F-2's wing was same as the agile falcon, YF-22 didn't be current F-22.
7:24 Horizontal tail, not vertical tail.
F-16 also has parachute, it's optional.
8:33 Begining of DFBW development since 1970's. T-2CCV was used in test for more several techs like the U.S's YF-16CCV/NF-16D VISTA, not only DFBW. The experiment results were adapted in F-2's source codes, it's make it possible sharp high rate climb like has canard wing, and also draws very small half circle at turning with A/B.
F-2 has TDL called JDCS(F), broadband software wireless, faster than link16. But just be used in JSDF.
F-2A has IEWS(ECM/ESM etc) sensor fusion before Rafale equips SPECTRA.
9:07 This update proposal was for F-2B, and LM also was not very serious about this.
12:21 European fighters also much delayed or no schedule equip AESA radar over 20 years to all of them. ????
F-2 has a certain Off Boresight capability without JHMCS.
12:49 18 of F-2 built since 2005 has FLIR, AN/AAQ-33 was equipped in 2015.
Mission computer, ASM-3 series, Link16 etc are all in one set of update program, has been begining since 2020.
Japan's constitution 9th isn't so absolute as old fakemedia's Chinese or Korean reports to the world, stand-off missile also same as IZUMO upgrade.
ASM-3A is already in deployment.
Famous F-2 unit cost is because of MoF Japan added on accounting the schedule delayed penalty fee at GD factory line.
Thanks for your interest and some of your corrections. But, we think there are some misunderstandings here. As you corrected Japan abandoned to use the support fighter term in 2005, not 2015. We apologize for our mistake.
We did not intend to mention the history of support fighters, but to give a piece of base information. So, we did not mention all aircraft and F-1 lifespan extension modernization.
The Agile Falcon programme was developed for the USAF as a low-coast alternative of the ATF Programme, not for the Europeans. We said that F-2 is an aircraft that was jointly developed based on Agile Falcon. not a Japanese version of it.
We never say that the wingspans of the F-2 and F-16 same. We also used an animation, which shows the difference.
We found the vertical tail information from Jane's All The Worlds Aircraft.
We say that the F-16s of the US Air Force do not have brake-chute, not all F-16s.
When we use the year 1983, we intended to refer to the year of the finished product for testing. In our respective, to begin to develop and to develop are different cases.
We did not intend to tell the story of the T-2 CCV. We just told a part of the story related to the F-2.
Link 16 is not only about data transfer speed but also about transferring video footage. So, a faster Link 11 is not more advanced than Link 16.
As we mentioned in our NSM and Izumo videos, as you also say, Japan could interpret the constitution. But, in the current situation, there is no official announcement for the procurement or development of a stand-off missile. So, Japan has not chosen to interpret its constitution for this topic yet.
According to the official statement, Japan allocated a budget for the acquisition of the ASM-3A missile in 2021. We cannot reach a confirmation for the delivery of the missile.
We hope we managed to express ourselves more clearly. If you have more objections and corrections, we would be glad to find a chance to express ourselves more clearly or correct our mistakes.
The Mitsubishi F-2 are mostly a waste of money. Japan would have been much better served with F-15E Strike Eagles, even with the added expense of Japanese customization. ⛩ 🇯🇵
Congratulations on the new family member! great videos!
Finally a good video on f2
感動しました。それは日本の空気システムがとにかく期待するものです。
私はこのようなビデオを見てとても興奮しています。
can it drop nuclear bomb in america ?
@@flyingbullet53 No, we won't do that. Pound sand.
Gördüğüm kadarıyla bu konudaki en iyi video.
Kanalınıza başarılar diliyorum.
It´s a beautyful fighter!
So, it's primarily a bomber, but turns better than a normal F-16. Sure, why not
It turns but slower and less advanced
@@cortney3280
Lol, less advanced. You could not have been more wrong
It's the prettier cousin of the F-16. I like the look of the F-2. Seems to be a really good off shore interceptor. Excited to see the next gen of fighter Japan comes out with. It's not less advanced it has all the bells and whistles. It's a very nice jet that can be useful in a variety of missions. All this time I really never looked at it thinking it would be lacking but it's certainly not. Very cool 👍
Great Video
I think this is the coolest variant of the F-16. Two tone camo pattern *chefs kiss*
VERY informative...Thanks for share!!!
How would a F-2 do against the delta wing F-16XL ?
Ok yes 👍
2:49. Aesthetics reminiscent of Cosmo Tiger or Type 99.
Mach 5 ASM, did I hear correctly. The US needs to purchase some to replace the antiquated Harpoon.
Japan has a plan to export these fighter aircrafts to outside countries, including South East Asia.
full informative; digestive excellent video again. by the way on that era;not just only on automobiles but motorcycles,precise production apparatus,technical measuring parts and chemical pigment sources were flushed to US from Japan.
This was the pinnacle of post-war Japanese aircraft development, when the US was afraid of Japan more than anyone.
Patlabor 2 has a very good reimagining if the F-2 was able to be developed further as a stealth aircraft.
Beautiful aircraft.
Interesting that no mention of how the F-35 will also be able to engage in the anti ship role and that it does have the capability of launching stand off air to ground weapons.
@@markcooke5270 What stealth fighter in production is better?
Japan also has Aircraft Carriers now. Number 2 is now in production or in sea trials.
Japan paid a very high price of money for that jet, it was the product during the prime time of US Japan trade war of late 1980s!
Terbaik.. 👍👍
That's a pretty cool looking aircraft
Bro can you talk about the OH 1 Ninja scout helicopter
Very informative. Thx. One thing: I didn't like the background music. Your documentary deserves better music.
Thanks for your interest
Me preguntó que pasaría si japón hubiera producido y mejorado el f 16 XL en lugar de el original f 16 sería una interesante propuesta
Great video japenese fighter planes are excellent 👌🏻
nice video like always
can you make video about southeast asia system from country like singapore, indonesia, or vietnam
Thanks for your interest. We have many systems from this region on our list. But, to reach more viewers, we currently favour more popular systems.
@@WeaponDetective 👍🏻
Fly by wire hmm so with an emp it looses thrust?
Too bad many engineers were working on this project were getting old. Golden parachute(retirement plan ) had to be met. This F-16J came out to be more expensive than regular U.S F-16C/D32.
What a badass plane,between the F-2 and theF-16 "NOW BOTH PLANES ATE SPITTING A LOT OF VENOM
JSDAF needs additional fleet of 90 new built upgraded Block IV variant of the MITSUBISHI F-2E (Block III) multi role interdictor strike fighter no matter what they say . . . would be great if the MITSUBISHI F-2E (Block III) multi role interdictor strike fighter was made available for foreign air forces like IAF & Emirati Air Force etc . . . infact the MITSUBISHI F-2E (Block III) multi role interdictor strike fighter could be marketed as a future iteration of the legendary F-16V Fighting Falcon (Block 72+) multi role interdictor strike fighter by MITSUBISHI & Lockheed Martin instead of so many upgraded variants of the F-16E Fighting Falcon (Block 50+) multi role fighter . . .
Japan constitution untill now prohibited selling weapons abroad, especially to nations involved in any kind of war theatre. this disqualify both Israel and EAU
But...
What if USAF could decides to integrate what it's mostly an American product to supplement their F-35?
No way: too late (the product lines have been disassembled) and too expensive at 110M$ of twenty years ago.
The Mitsubishi F-2 are mostly a waste of money. Japan would have been much better served with F-15E Strike Eagles, even with the added expense of Japanese customization. ⛩ 🇯🇵
You can't seriously believe there will be BLOCK III right? The fighter is less capable than F16v but cost even higher than F15J.
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b they have F-15J
Mitsubishi F-2 will be replaced with the F-3
Jasdf should paint like this on their future jet f3
Just like the F16, It is always happy 😀
The Philippine Air Force should buy this as well. The ASEAN community should make it a practice to buy from each other in terms of equipment and the sharing of technology. Countries that have capability to build light aircraft carriers, lpd's lsd's lst's lsa's should always reach out to other ASEAN nations for joint investments and purchases for example what if The Philippines Vietnam Indonesia Thailand Malaysia to name a few all cooped on the Chakri Narubet Class Carrier, had they did that there would be in that region a cluster of maritime combat aviation assets that can be grouped into Taskforces to help mitigate the encroachment of China in the SCS ,also the purchase of Harriers even to the point of requesting for a Harrier 3 variant or some other carrier capable aircraft like modernized A4's When South Korea introduced their Medium Carrier Concept all the ASEAN countries should have jumped on it with South Korea including Japan so those nations able to afford them would have purchased them so in the Region again there would be capable assets in use by other nations besides China that could help secure the SCS and provide a diverse Force presence in that area as a whole. Only in an idea world would that happen.
Still to this day the only operational western fighter with supersonic anit-ship missiles..
just look at how beautiful that marine camo is, only one in the world.
Japan some awesome people, they can build anything an it will be amazing, an they also play baseball god i love these people, shout out Japan
Ngl F 2 is look cute but
Mitsubishi X 2 is also Sexy just like Mini F 22 or F35
Can you make the South Korean KF-16
Imagine if japan based their F-2 design on the F16XL
The first "F-16 Viper"!
Its quite close to F16 but here's the catch for the price of 4 F16 you can buy just 1 of this Mitsubishi F2
please get a better microphone and use different music otherwise great channel
How does the F-2 compare to the new F-16V that Taiwan is getting??
Night and day difference. You realize the F2 was developed in the 80's, right?
For X Factor!
I would rather the Japanese had made the original design with two engines and a wing setup like the euro fighter and rafale
Imagine if Japan supported the lavi instead of the f16
No one wants the conformal fuel tanks on their Vipers. They fix a big shortcoming of the viper. You would think everyone would love them.
Most air forces operating F-16's are using jets that aren't plumbed for conformal tanks, including the USAF.
Viper zero the best 👍👍🗾🗾⛩️⛩️🇯🇵🇯🇵
Grat planes for air defence
I hope they get all the YF-23 rights.
Why would they? They didn't have anything to do with it, and don't own any of its design.
มีอดีตนายกรัฐมนตรีอยู่เบื้องหลังผู้หญิงตะวันตก เมื่อ 20โดนรัฐประหารเนื่องจากสมคบคิดเปลี่ยนรัชทายาท
I wish that japan rebuild F2 as twin engine turbor jet long and wide as chinese J15 and it would called F2 super zero
Upcoming video on SKJOLD class Corvette cum missile boat please
which it from F16 basic, but F2 have a new taste.. the japan fighter
Better than j20🤣🤣🤣
japan is living in 2122
So its pretty much an f16 xL
F-3もこの迷彩で頼むわ。
Blue f16?
Over 90% of the aircraft was redesigned by Japan and the material of the aircraft was replaced with carbon fiber. The structure of the wing is a fastenerless structure made of adhesive, which was the first technology in the world. The cruising range is extended, and up to four large anti-ship missiles can be mounted. Equipped with the world's first AESA radar. Many carbon technologies were adopted on the Boeing 787
New project: VF-1
❤Japan Army Force Mitsubishi Haevy industry F2
Love the cammo
Halim Talafuka,Alhamdulillahirobbil Alamiin,Allahumma Amiin.@$
Taiwan should have this fighter it's far more superior then the f16v which they have for their frontline fighter
Sadly it won't, Japan doesn't sell weapons and military equipment. If Taiwan ask they wont sell even one since it conflict their constitution
@@joshuajoaquin5099 ow,,got it
@@joshuajoaquin5099 Engine exports are very much sensitive to int'l diplomacy and security policies, national interest.
Turkey was willing to export the Altay with the jointly developped small engine, but If Turkey chose just for use in Turkish Land Forces, Japan did not decline.
@@joshuajoaquin5099 no more ban on import bro
The F2 would be FAR less superior to the F-16V.
2:48 Huh....looks familiar like a J-20
生でF-2見たい方は茨城県の百里基地においで～
China navy is sweating hard when face the F-2
Nonsense! If Japan lost a single F2 jet in action, the political consequences were dire for Japan!
@@jagdpanther2224 ...loosing one or two in action is a lesser problem than say loosing the same amount due to training error(s) or airframe fatigue.
If or when CCP/PRC's PLA-AF attacks Japan to try and stop support against defending ROC country Taiwan from CCP Invasion, the Japanese public would care not so much about smaller 'domestic' political problems, only worry with increasing anger about PRC's possible real actions versus their stated intent;
...Which is many times the PRC (& DPRK/NK) have said Japan will suffer nuclear attack when they start invasion of Taiwan/ROC for many decades since Jiang Zhemin.
So war thunder when
It's basically the F-16 with a more neutral and classy camouflage
its has carbon fiber and bigger wing, and was the first fighter jet equipped with aesa radar
Juste une copie conforme du F16. C'est peut-être un bon avion mais ils ne sont pas très imaginatifs les Japonais..
We’re better at modifying existing things than we are at building new ones
Should have just taken the strike Eagle.
They have F-15J
It didn't exist back then...duh.
Japanese Nippon army was surrender, but not loser, still ready to fight anytime that other countries treat them, such as russia, china & north korea
Please sell this to the 🇵🇭 so that we can have a MRF. We need your support by providing us soft loan government to government. Since we are being bullied by china. Please!! We need it immediately.
No more ban on imports :)
They will sell these planes to the Philippines
Japan make f16a fighting falcon it's good news for Bangladesh air force Bangladesh can buy 256 f16a fighting falcon single engine fighter jet, Engr md Abu Hanif matiar Dhaka Bangladesh
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Model zero មិនគួរណា copy ទេ
Mitsubishi model zero original japan
Expensive AF F-16.
The Mitsubishi F-2 are mostly a waste of money. Japan would have been much better served with F-15E Strike Eagles, even with the added expense of Japanese customization. ⛩ 🇯🇵
Philippines buy 5000 pieces f2 zero
For the R/D & cost of that program the JASDF could've had over 300 F-16 Blk 50's.
Wiolated‽
I am really looking forward to Japan building their version of the F-23. Maybe they will license the US to build them for the USAF.
This is a very weird program, which produced a capable weapon fighter, but not superior enough to the F16 to justify the time delay and the huge costs of development which bloated to absurd levels.
If the F-16 was not enough, in1987, I guess an F18 would have done the Job.
It reminded me of the F-1, which was technically a Jaguar redesigned from scratch with the same engines and capabilities. This is generally the extreme solution for nations who cannot get access to off shelf product due to political restrictions, but what has this to do with Japan?
Europe aircraft companies build their own design to become independent from the USA, but Japan didn't even got that: the F2 still relies on General Dynamic design and manufacturing for most of its parts and in the end had no hope to sell abroad to share some of the development costs.
There is nothing weird or financially absurd about the F-2 program.
The money was spent to hugely expand japans industry capabilities. This includes modern composite structure development and production, avionics, electronics, weapons, aerodynamics etc.
Without the F-2 program Japan would not be the main partner nation in the 777, 787 and other Boeing and LM programs.
Export of the F-2 was not a considering factor in the 1990s, since the Japanese constitution prohibited any arms export from Japan until 2019 (??)
The F-2 was a huge success for Japan and worth every cent.
The Mitsubishi F-2 are mostly a waste of money. Japan would have been much better served with F-15E Strike Eagles, even with the added expense of Japanese customization. ⛩ 🇯🇵
@@xyzaero But is those money spent useful? Did japan build their own 5 gen fighters by themselves? So what could this be any difference if there is no such F2 program.
"F-2 program Japan would not be the main partner nation in the 777, 787 and other Boeing and LM programs" F2 program doesn't have much thing to do with these civil planes. The original intention of F2 is very well designed: creating an indigenous fighter that have comparable performance with F16. But the result is very depressing as it ends up with an fighter that is inferior than F16 but much costly than that. To be honest, i don't think Japanese designers have much experience gain from it as LM did the most of the work
@@donchen4906 Yes the money was spent very useful.
The F-2 program brought the Japanese aviation and manufacturing industrial capabilities to a point, that Japan was able to be a partner in almost all major aviation projects in the. world and the money they spent on the F-2 was regained several times over already. Fighter programs are political and industrial juggernauts and have often very little to do with defense itself. Furthermore the F-2 was a huge step forward and is an excellent platform for Japan's needs
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b no it is not a waste of money. you are only very short sighted. Japan wanted to develop it's own platform and develop new industrial capabilities. Customizing the Eagle would not have done the job.
No IRST. ASEA radar isnt enough to be called 4++. The engine intakes dont seem to protected from radar emissions.
A F-16 knockoff is better than not having 4th gen fighters to face North Korean MIG-29s. Kudos to the Japanese military industries for trying their efforts.
SELF DEFENSE
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Originally, Japan wanted the U.S. to provide the FA-18 Super Hornet. However, the U.S. did not agree. Just as they once refused to provide the F14 Tomcat. So, Japan made a magical modification (redesign) based on the F16 to create the pseudo-FA18. This is the F2. In terms of performance, it is close to the FA18. So it can be said that the F2 is superior to the F16.