I know what interview u heard this from. Maybe one source of the discrepancy in income could come to the fact that the Knowles family had the greatest share in Destiny's Child as a business venture. Remember, in this family alone, a daughter was in the group(making money), the dad was the manager(making money), and the mom was the stylist(making money). So yeah, maybe the Knowls would be better off...but with that said, it still doesn't explain why Toya can't pay the phone bill even
Toya couldn’t pay her phone bill because homegirl didn’t know how to budget or spend her money on things that actually MATTERED... she stated her money troubles growing up... its her spending habits that became the problem
no its is beyonce fault becuz them was here sister like she always said . sooo would u let somebody replace ur sisters like that . beyonce was the lead singer she could of easily said to matthew hell no i wont perform if u replace them . but wat she did was act like she didnt no wat happened and aww she in a depression . like wat a load of shit seriously
@Jazzedboltz I wish they did talk it out b4 it got outta hand. To me the original DC is the best lineup and I was kinda upset when I 1st saw the video without Toya & Tavia. I liked Michelle & Farrah but they did not bring the same elements to the group the way the originals did and their vocals blended beautifully 2gether.
@iiablaze if you go and do research. You could have found this out yourself. There are documentaries, magazine articles & tv show with all of this info on Destinys Child during this time. Even people who worked with them Like Rodney Jerkins, kandi burruss & Shakespeare said that something was off with management. Shakespeare who wrote & produced most of their album stated he would never work with them again because of management over stepping their boundaries. I stand by my statement about Matt.
LOL@ Bey and Kelly's reaction to Toya's and Tavia's affirmation of their love for B&K. I am reading a letter that Bey sent to Toya and Tavia after they sent letter to MK, really funny. Really funny. But it's water over the bridge though. They are all cool.
All that drama that surrounded Destiny's Child had a lot to do with Beyonce' and her attitude! Wanting to be number one and not having any respect for her fellow group mates. I wouldn't have put up with her shit either! Nasty attitude.. Always rolling her eyes when the other girls talk and talking over them like they weren't talking in the first place. Wow. @C C.B said it best!!
Rosário Almeida Facts hun! There are many old Destiny's Child interviews on RUclips that you can go search right now and you will see how she treated them. She was not a kind person..
This is called personality and it doesn't have anything to do with the group separation.. Do you know what REALLY happened behind the cameras? People have the ability to change personality very easily.. How do you know that the side looks where because one of the girls was saying something which shouldn't be told or was lies and she was just amazed at how many bullshits were being said... How do you know??
Rosário Almeida There's a problem when she would shade them in every single INTERVIEW! Not just one or a few but almost all of them. You people are so blind and want to believe that Beyonce' was this angel just because she is talented but talented people can be the biggest bitches on earth. I have gone through many of their interviews and Beyonce was the one who always gave attitude and would get mad when other's would speak acting as if she's the only one in the damn group. If she wanted to be the only one and to have the spotlight on her then she should have started off as a solo artist but no she was too afraid to handle the fame all by herself. Oh and i will always judge a person based on their actions.
@3BuckHead there was so many damn people in that say my name video i didnt know what the hell happened, i thought the back up dancers were the new members
i always wondered why in destiny's child documentaries it would always be about beyonce's life i dont dont know what kind of struggles kelly went through or latavia or letoya they just always promoted beyonce and her perfect life and i seriously hated it i like the rag to riches and actual pain to triumph stories beyonce was rich b4 she was rich which is the reason why ppl can't really releate to her at all
They got paid all the way through the #1's album hun. LeToya lowkey said it on her first reality show The H-Town Chick. Like Beyonce and Kelly, they'll forever receive residuals for the songs they co-wrote on TWOTW as well.
If you noticed to this day LeToya and LaTavia's explanation on why they are no longer in the group remained the same, from the year 2000 on up to today. Now Beyonce and Kelly's explanation changed so many times since 2000. Now who are you gonna believe?? Someone who stick to what they say or someone who flip flops their answer every year. I'm team Toya & Tavia on this one.
I believe both sides...looking back it was actually latavia and Letoya that broke up the group...I see it now...they are the ones that took legal action to break up their contract with their manager....very bad and childish move on their end
I prefer this Beyonce, she had a personality. I adore Beyonce but at times she comes across as a robot they polished her up too much to cross mainstream.
This is a classic prime example of young music stars being used to play against each other (and they were FRIENDS too...just sad). This has happened to so many singing groups, but Destiny's Child's split was definitely one of the ugliest break-ups. Poor girls had to face so much criticism (still even to this day). Beyonce took alot of unnecessary heat from what her father was doing. She was just as naive as the rest of them.
But in the end, Kelly did the smart thing. Along with Beyonce and Kelly, Latavia and Letoya worked many hard years building up Destiny's Child, but they never shared the superstar-status success that the group eventually reached. L&L attended the 2001 Grammy's, but sat in the audience while Beyonce, Kelly, and Michelle say "Independent Women" to a worldwide audience, and then later won a Grammy for "Say My Name"--a song L&L both sang on and co-produced.
Before it got to Kelly and Beyoncé, Matthew and his greedy old ass had already fabricated the story, and manipulated the girls to saying lies to media... at the end of the day, it's business.... unfortunately!
Yeh I’m with u. Just damage control statements and feel Matthew got in their ears to say or lied to them to play them against other 2 cos the way letoya and latavia explained with body language I believe them.
The “they knew everything before it was done but” I agree was complete bullshit on beyonces end... but the part where letoya and latavia wrote those LEGAL letters to the record label was even more stupid... that’s why they’re not in the group anymore... they kicked THEMSELVES out
Does anyone know where the footage is of Farrah telling how Tina made her get in the tanning bed to get darker before she got in the group...b/c Bey was gonna be the only light one.
There’s a magazine article about it that Farrah our out a long time ago and the mother denied it... Farrah going to the magazines sparked the verse in the survivor song: “I ain’t gon lie on you in the magazines... I’m not gon compromise my Christianity...”
Kelly just makes me so mad b/c she always letting Beyonce run her. The thing is Kelly has talent but if she likes being in her shadow then she'll always be left behind. When tht breakup went down Beyonce made sure she cut her off from talking...
LMAO i love the editing they do it's on point. when latavia said drop of a hat they show beyonce in the cowgirl hat grinning and then say my name they blurt out "WHY THE SUDDEN CHANGE?"
I just realized Farrah was in this interview 😱 wow . All I saw was DC3 vs. the original members . I'm happy to know its all settled . Latavia and letoya both visited Bey and attended her OTRII concert, took pictures with her , and exchanged positive energy . They're all grown now and all the immaturity and miscommunication of their teen years is over . They're all mothers now also 💜🙌🏾😌
1/ Matthew Knowles quit his job to create and manage Destiny's Child . And it took him five years to get a recording deal. 2/ The Writing's on the Wall is the best album of Destiny's Child till date. Destiny's Child IS the Writing's on the Wall. The sales were up to 3 million copies after only 2 singles out . Therefore, Letoya and Latavia, that was a DUMB move. Really really dumb, for real. SideNote: Letoya was my favorite of the four.
Exactly they kicked THEMSELVES out... what the hell is wrong with them? You don’t pull this type of shit when the ball finally starts to get rolling from all the heartache and sacrifices... that was a petty move on their part
i will never forget the day i saw the change. i was personally hurt by it. haha. but this clip, shows serious shade from kelly and bey. it does seem like matthew planted them seeds in bey's ears about tavia and toya. i'm glad toya moved on with single ladies and many other movies. tavia just needs to keep her confidence in order on R&B divas. -@iamvanessadenis
Man, that's messed up, Toya been in the group for 7 yrs and Tavia for 10 yrs and they were flushed like that. They went through the ups and downs with Bey and Kelly. About to shoot the "Say My Name" video and Matthew made sure that they were dropped without a dime to their name! I must say I did enjoy seeing Farrah in the Group, but once she was dropped, I was like "WOW" there's something going on here! But that was then, hopefully all 6 will reunite for a show and maybe a song!
The whole story still don’t make sense to me. LaTavia was apparently sick at 1:24. There’s a whole performance on RUclips where it’s just B Kelly and Toya when they had on those fits. Sooo latavai didn’t skip the Europe tour..
Remember guys, Michelle and LeToya are good friends now - Kelly also. After all this mess, the ladies could still put it behind them - LeToya and Bey have even seen eachother since the split and hugged and had a brief catch-up. LeToya and Michelle seem closest though - which is pretty ironic, considering Michelle replaced her in the group. LeToya was at Michelle's big 30th b'day bash - that Bey nor Kelly was at.
My things is if you were in a group for 7yrs, and your dad tells you that your other friends should be background singers wouldn't you back them up? Letoya said she couldn't even pay her cell phone bill while Beyonce and Kelly had BMW's, I believe. Letoya mom was skeptical of the situation.
Japaul Jackson nah Beyonce and Kelly got all the money letoya and latavia got the scrapping that were left over they always did backing vocals and when it got time to sing live they would always be in the back lip syncing there recorded parts nobody really paid attention to them really mainly Beyonce and when when Kelly got the bridge the writings on the wall was a huge success 2 singles hitting #1 and a song that hit #3 and #33 and poured in lots of money but we all know what 2 people got most of the money
They all got paid the same, I believe. The issue was that Matthew was making 20%. As a manager that is very high. He was getting paid as if he were a member of the group!
Right, Farrah complained about Matthew and among other things. I followed this story every since the "Say My Name" video came out in 2000. I heard all of their sides to the story and Farrah's never changed either.
Well Beyonce got her prayers come true six years after in 06, I believe LeToya and Beyonce encountered each other in BET and I belive they had a picture together.
@@theunimpressedbeetch well latavia and her friend saw beyoncé at one time after the break up and beyoncé walk towards them and hugged and talked it's on a interview that latavia did
@Famfriass yea i know that Beyonce has talent---that's why she was the leader but i was just letting you know that they have some grreat talent too and and if people woud stop focussing on Beyonce for just 1 secod then mabey they could win a greammy or 2 and try to even get near her lol
well with all the craziness they had going on they got back in that studio recorded the survivor album which had 2 #1 hits and debuted at #1 on the charts
I believe letoya and latavia. However a group can’t have separate managers. Only way is for them to agree on 1 manager or majority vote, but case of split 2/2. The 2 didn’t want Matthew when he had been driving force to get them to that point, quitting his job. Even though they wanted new / their own, he was also dad of the main talent lead singer so I can see their decision to move forward quick with momentum of album instead of stalling in releasing their biggest song on the album. They should have communicated they weren’t happy and explained meeting communicated about how money was split..
I 100% agree, especially with the communication part. I just wanna say that they were all young(around 18). So they didn’t really know how to deal with a situation like this. Tavia and Toya have actually said that they wished they communicated with Bey and Kelendria.
@Famfriass Janet Jackson, Whitney, TLC and Vanessa Williams were very much famous at the same time as Mariah Carey (who was barely even perceived as a "black girl" for much of her career). Halle Berry has had success at the same time as Beyonce, as well as Alicia Keys and Rihanna. Aretha Franklin and Donna Summer had success around the same time as Diana Ross.
It's easy to say its Beyonce's fault but what seems to be consistent throughout all the interviews is that the girls cared for each other and miscommunications played a major role. . Matthew did what he had to , he did almost go through a divorce, sacrificed a lucrative CEO position and spent a lot of money to help these girls make it as far as they did . Latavia and Letoya's parent should have got a better manager contract with Matthew . They couldn't start anything without them .
Even if "4" wasn't that good in singles, it went #1 in billboard and it got great sales, plus she has a great stable career, and her first 3 albums had enough good singles to already make a greatest hits album, she is happily married to the man she loves, which is the great Jay-Z, they have a child together, plus she has enough money live the fabulous life, so Karma did not do nothing to Beyonce, much love to you, no hate, Goodnight.
The same way Latavia heard about the breakup by watching the video was the same exact way everyone else found out about it...that’s sad...and even though this was 20 plus years ago, I’m still not over with it because I was a child and I was SHOCKED ...my subconscious developing mind was fucked up as a result of this
No Farrah left because she was as insecure to be in a singing group with talented singers and she wasn’t one... imagine joining a basketball team when you can’t even play basketball... you’re eventually gonna find your exit
@ridethemaverick ... no I didn’t ... she’s not a singer, so she was insecure... mathew didn’t treat her well at one instance yes as he yelled at her but the passes at her comment was purely made up by people like her and YOU for attention purposes... it’s baseless and if that were the case she would have taken legal action but she didn’t
@@thegoldenbowl5217 you’re right. That comment was 9 years ago was from pure speculation, but she gave the reason why she left the group and it had nothing to do with her feeling insecure as a singer. You made that up.
Dude who's gonna admit on television and interviews they were insecure come on...she was saving face...homegirl had insecurities back then and still TODAY...look at the way she talks in interviews etc...she has deep insecurities and issues right in front of our faces what do you mean?
its funny how at 1:20, they talk about their new video "say my name" not knowing that they would get replaced that fast...so bey n matthew had to have found the two new members while toya and tavia were still in the group basically without them even knowin,..that is crazy
No... shortly after this letoya and latavia sent legal letters to Columbia... Tina Beyonces mother found the other two members that auditioned for them individually at their house in Houston... mathew actually wanted the original girls to work out there differences but Beyonce was adamant about getting new members with her mother...read the book “becoming Beyonce” by j tiborelli
@cushe83 LOL, exactly. Beyonce did an interview back in 06 and she said that it was their intention to have many girls in the video so you couldn't tell who was in the group and who wasn't but I could tell who were in the group cause Farrah and Michelle was the only two members besides Bee and Kelly that were singing to the track.
if beyonce didn't want they girls to talk about the situation then they shouldn't. She was the one affected by the whole thing the most. Everyone blamed her and she had no control of what letoya an latavia were doing and at the same time they were some of her closest friends. So if she tells kelly don't mention something then SHE SHOULDN'T MENTION IT lol...bey doesn't act like it in interviews or on stage but thru that whole time she was seriously depressed,not even coming out her room sometimes
When you have an album out you have to promote it and do rehearsals, prepare for videos, etc. When you don't show and make demands that half the group won't agree to -- guess who gets to be the odd "women" out. It made sense that they were ousted. Frankly, they weren't missed and the group didn't miss a beat. Groups have ONE manager, not two or four. That's not how the business is conducted. It doesn't matter what team anyone is on. This happened over a decade ago and they have all moved on.
thats bullshit . u might wanna check ur info . they replaced them without them knowin . thats y they won there lawsuit . stop swearin u no shit wen its all over the internet about them gettin replaced without notice .
If it's beyonce's fault,,,you world and people tell me WHY beyonce is still a super star all over the world and these girls are not???? is matthew controlling us people or buyin millions of cds of beyonce? COME ON!!!!!!
actually they only got checks for the albums they were on and the lawsuit money. Legally speaking, they had no claim over any future albums they didn't help create.
what i don't understand is how Beyonce says she let them know & the whole line up change issue developed overtime but if you watch Beyonce VH1 Driven theyre talking about how it hit her hard w/ THEM leaving drastically W/O her knowing & her calling them trying to pull them together & it hurting her so bad cause they were all close like sisters since childhood so she slipped into depression- SOMETHING'S NOT ADDING UP. they always try to make her so perfect til the point it makes her seem devious
Yep, the reason Toya and Tavia were so easily replaced is cause they were basically background dancers. Mathew Knowles made sure they didn’t add much to the group.
@iiablaze 1) They did not turn into little divas. Matthew was cheating them out of their money. That's why they wanted to end their management agreement with him. Are they suppose to just let Matthew sit back and get rich, while they are struggle to pay thier bills. The record label dont' care how many mangers are managing a group. As long as the "Artist" fulfills their obligations to the record label. The "Artist" is resposible for management not the record.
@Deniroification did you notice that -both- sides agreed on pretty much everything except whether the girls kicked out had discussed leaving? I find it very telling that they say "We never knew, never spoke about it" and yet they also say "We don't hold our being kicked out against the other two girls, we have nothing but love for them." even as the Beyonce and Kelly are publicly insisting everyone knew... Wouldn't you hold that against Beyonce and Kelly if you truly had no clue? I would have.
bullshit regardless aint no way u have 2 good albums and u cant pay ur bills . everybody no matthew was takin money from them and it just came out that he was stealin from beyonce thats y she fired him and if u dont believe me look it up
Karma is serving Beyonce? Over 75 million albums sold, 16 grammys, 6 #1 Box Office movies, & the only female artist with 4 #1 consecutive albums... etc. That's some good ass karma right there.
Farrah looked nothing like Beyonce. She was actually way more beautiful. Had light eyes, striking features..that was the problem. She was better looking than Beyonce.
actually Letoya do have dat same fame they tried to snatch it but guess what she proved dem wrong she can sing as good as beyonce if not better truth be told
LMAO ok.....Beyonce always thanks the original and new Destiny's Child for her career, so lets not. How is it wrong for them? Matthew the one that did it. It was drama in the group with the other girls so it was probably better that they got rid of them so the group can progress. Who gives a fuck they weren't missed. If that was the case DC would of been over years ago. You might wanna hear that corny dubstep crap and you have the pop girls for that, but 4 was a great R&B album.
This era was TEA and modern day drama. This will forever be one of the juiciest stories of 2000 and the 2000s
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It sure was
Was it messier than Pussycat Dolls or Fifth Harmony?
@@eleeveeayees3425 definitely. Neither of them compare to DC
@@breybrey2dajizzay I mean the drama because the 5H videos being shady to Camila was really messy but this one is unmatched 🤣🤣🤣
I will never believe that Letoya and Latavia willingfully left DC, they were young but not that damn dumb
Right, like who the hell would leave a multi platinum group?
They were fired
They would've been even bigger super stars. I hated the way they done them
You have to believe it because legally they wrote those letters
@@thegoldenbowl5217 yeah but not to leave the group ..
Matthew is just a huge issue
I know what interview u heard this from. Maybe one source of the discrepancy in income could come to the fact that the Knowles family had the greatest share in Destiny's Child as a business venture. Remember, in this family alone, a daughter was in the group(making money), the dad was the manager(making money), and the mom was the stylist(making money). So yeah, maybe the Knowls would be better off...but with that said, it still doesn't explain why Toya can't pay the phone bill even
Toya couldn’t pay her phone bill because homegirl didn’t know how to budget or spend her money on things that actually MATTERED... she stated her money troubles growing up... its her spending habits that became the problem
Letoya's debut album did better then Kelly's! Kelly didn't get popular until she started singing Sex Music
no its is beyonce fault becuz them was here sister like she always said . sooo would u let somebody replace ur sisters like that . beyonce was the lead singer she could of easily said to matthew hell no i wont perform if u replace them . but wat she did was act like she didnt no wat happened and aww she in a depression . like wat a load of shit seriously
Lol Kelly said well they slapped a big law suit on us...haha
I love Beyoncé, but she knows how to lie.
the unreal player if u know shes lying then no she doesn't 😂😂
Dont she lol
Beyoncé's ass was sitting there lying like a MF lmao
@Jazzedboltz I wish they did talk it out b4 it got outta hand. To me the original DC is the best lineup and I was kinda upset when I 1st saw the video without Toya & Tavia. I liked Michelle & Farrah but they did not bring the same elements to the group the way the originals did and their vocals blended beautifully 2gether.
@iiablaze if you go and do research. You could have found this out yourself. There are documentaries, magazine articles & tv show with all of this info on Destinys Child during this time. Even people who worked with them Like Rodney Jerkins, kandi burruss & Shakespeare said that something was off with management. Shakespeare who wrote & produced most of their album stated he would never work with them again because of management over stepping their boundaries. I stand by my statement about Matt.
mathew also lost farrah!
that boat has sailed my friend
LOL@ Bey and Kelly's reaction to Toya's and Tavia's affirmation of their love for B&K. I am reading a letter that Bey sent to Toya and Tavia after they sent letter to MK, really funny. Really funny. But it's water over the bridge though. They are all cool.
All that drama that surrounded Destiny's Child had a lot to do with Beyonce' and her attitude! Wanting to be number one and not having any respect for her fellow group mates. I wouldn't have put up with her shit either! Nasty attitude.. Always rolling her eyes when the other girls talk and talking over them like they weren't talking in the first place. Wow. @C C.B said it best!!
how do you know?
facts or just speculating?
Rosário Almeida Facts hun! There are many old Destiny's Child interviews on RUclips that you can go search right now and you will see how she treated them. She was not a kind person..
This is called personality and it doesn't have anything to do with the group separation..
Do you know what REALLY happened behind the cameras?
People have the ability to change personality very easily..
How do you know that the side looks where because one of the girls was saying something which shouldn't be told or was lies and she was just amazed at how many bullshits were being said...
How do you know??
Santricia Jones we don't know them, do we?
So we can't judge their personalities according to what happened in interviews
Rosário Almeida There's a problem when she would shade them in every single INTERVIEW! Not just one or a few but almost all of them. You people are so blind and want to believe that Beyonce' was this angel just because she is talented but talented people can be the biggest bitches on earth. I have gone through many of their interviews and Beyonce was the one who always gave attitude and would get mad when other's would speak acting as if she's the only one in the damn group. If she wanted to be the only one and to have the spotlight on her then she should have started off as a solo artist but no she was too afraid to handle the fame all by herself. Oh and i will always judge a person based on their actions.
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there was so many damn people in that say my name video i didnt know what the hell happened, i thought the back up dancers were the new members
Destiny's Child, promoting Beyonce. Same as the Pussycat Dolls, promoting Nicole Scherzinger
i always wondered why in destiny's child documentaries it would always be about beyonce's life i dont dont know what kind of struggles kelly went through or latavia or letoya they just always promoted beyonce and her perfect life and i seriously hated it i like the rag to riches and actual pain to triumph stories beyonce was rich b4 she was rich which is the reason why ppl can't really releate to her at all
I don’t think she’s looking for people to relate to her... she only cares about singing and showing her gifts to the world
Exactly, I don't understand why people even like her
They got paid all the way through the #1's album hun. LeToya lowkey said it on her first reality show The H-Town Chick. Like Beyonce and Kelly, they'll forever receive residuals for the songs they co-wrote on TWOTW as well.
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Letoya also stated she was homeless
If you noticed to this day LeToya and LaTavia's explanation on why they are no longer in the group remained the same, from the year 2000 on up to today. Now Beyonce and Kelly's explanation changed so many times since 2000. Now who are you gonna believe?? Someone who stick to what they say or someone who flip flops their answer every year. I'm team Toya & Tavia on this one.
Beyonce, Kelly, & Michelle firing Mathew says Everything I Knew Letoya & Latavia wasn't lying
People seem to look over that part
Good point. I had 4got bout that
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beyonce and Kelly's story are like the complete opposite of latavia and letoya's story. I believe latavia and letoya
I believe both sides...looking back it was actually latavia and Letoya that broke up the group...I see it now...they are the ones that took legal action to break up their contract with their manager....very bad and childish move on their end
@@mynaphsha4255 how is it Letoya and Latavia's fault when there was favoritism in the group
Rumor has it Jagged Edge were kind of instigating, and even got into with Matthew Knowles over the treatment of LeToya and Latavia
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I prefer this Beyonce, she had a personality. I adore Beyonce but at times she comes across as a robot they polished her up too much to cross mainstream.
She Grew Up. She Was Like 17-18 Here. She Damn Near 40 Now. All Of Them Are. She Matured.
Well her polished-ness worked for her as she’s living a billion dollar lifestyle
@@thegoldenbowl5217go away you in everybody comment section lmao
Plot twist*.....Farrah left like 6 months later 😂
This is a classic prime example of young music stars being used to play against each other (and they were FRIENDS too...just sad).
This has happened to so many singing groups, but Destiny's Child's split was definitely one of the ugliest break-ups. Poor girls had to face so much criticism (still even to this day). Beyonce took alot of unnecessary heat from what her father was doing. She was just as naive as the rest of them.
I want to see the Say My Name version with Latavia and Letoya.
They should redo everything if they decide to make a return ... include the same set, colors choreography and even director
This was a tradegy in music history it was HUGE back then ...I’m still not over this
Still not over this myself
Me either I didn’t know about this until I found out back in 2019 that there was favertism going on in the group? Smh.
Me either
But in the end, Kelly did the smart thing. Along with Beyonce and Kelly, Latavia and Letoya worked many hard years building up Destiny's Child, but they never shared the superstar-status success that the group eventually reached. L&L attended the 2001 Grammy's, but sat in the audience while Beyonce, Kelly, and Michelle say "Independent Women" to a worldwide audience, and then later won a Grammy for "Say My Name"--a song L&L both sang on and co-produced.
I believe LeToya and LaTavia... Beyonce and Kelly seem like they're lying. I don't believe they knew they were getting kicked out.
If they knew beforehand, Beyoncé wouldn’t have taken it so hard.
Before it got to Kelly and Beyoncé, Matthew and his greedy old ass had already fabricated the story, and manipulated the girls to saying lies to media... at the end of the day, it's business.... unfortunately!
Yeh I’m with u. Just damage control statements and feel Matthew got in their ears to say or lied to them to play them against other 2 cos the way letoya and latavia explained with body language I believe them.
The “they knew everything before it was done but” I agree was complete bullshit on beyonces end... but the part where letoya and latavia wrote those LEGAL letters to the record label was even more stupid... that’s why they’re not in the group anymore... they kicked THEMSELVES out
Does anyone know where the footage is of Farrah telling how Tina made her get in the tanning bed to get darker before she got in the group...b/c Bey was gonna be the only light one.
There’s a magazine article about it that Farrah our out a long time ago and the mother denied it... Farrah going to the magazines sparked the verse in the survivor song: “I ain’t gon lie on you in the magazines... I’m not gon compromise my Christianity...”
I love Beyoncé but I believe letoya
Kelly just makes me so mad b/c she always letting Beyonce run her. The thing is Kelly has talent but if she likes being in her shadow then she'll always be left behind. When tht breakup went down Beyonce made sure she cut her off from talking...
Girl with that attitude you would have been booted out too... and no one would have known you other than the crazy bitch from destinys child... THINK
LMAO i love the editing they do it's on point. when latavia said drop of a hat they show beyonce in the cowgirl hat grinning and then say my name they blurt out "WHY THE SUDDEN CHANGE?"
I didn't even notice !! 🤣
I just realized Farrah was in this interview 😱 wow . All I saw was DC3 vs. the original members . I'm happy to know its all settled . Latavia and letoya both visited Bey and attended her OTRII concert, took pictures with her , and exchanged positive energy . They're all grown now and all the immaturity and miscommunication of their teen years is over . They're all mothers now also 💜🙌🏾😌
1/ Matthew Knowles quit his job to create and manage Destiny's Child . And it took him five years to get a recording deal.
2/ The Writing's on the Wall is the best album of Destiny's Child till date. Destiny's Child IS the Writing's on the Wall. The sales were up to 3 million copies after only 2 singles out .
Therefore, Letoya and Latavia, that was a DUMB move. Really really dumb, for real.
SideNote: Letoya was my favorite of the four.
Exactly! Who sends in separation of management papers during the MIDDLE of a album roll out
Exactly they kicked THEMSELVES out... what the hell is wrong with them? You don’t pull this type of shit when the ball finally starts to get rolling from all the heartache and sacrifices... that was a petty move on their part
i will never forget the day i saw the change. i was personally hurt by it. haha. but this clip, shows serious shade from kelly and bey. it does seem like matthew planted them seeds in bey's ears about tavia and toya. i'm glad toya moved on with single ladies and many other movies. tavia just needs to keep her confidence in order on R&B divas. -@iamvanessadenis
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Man, that's messed up, Toya been in the group for 7 yrs and Tavia for 10 yrs and they were flushed like that. They went through the ups and downs with Bey and Kelly. About to shoot the "Say My Name" video and Matthew made sure that they were dropped without a dime to their name! I must say I did enjoy seeing Farrah in the Group, but once she was dropped, I was like "WOW" there's something going on here! But that was then, hopefully all 6 will reunite for a show and maybe a song!
The whole story still don’t make sense to me. LaTavia was apparently sick at 1:24. There’s a whole performance on RUclips where it’s just B Kelly and Toya when they had on those fits. Sooo latavai didn’t skip the Europe tour..
looks more like a lie to cover up that la tavia didnt want to peform and that there were problems behind the scenes
Remember guys, Michelle and LeToya are good friends now - Kelly also. After all this mess, the ladies could still put it behind them - LeToya and Bey have even seen eachother since the split and hugged and had a brief catch-up.
LeToya and Michelle seem closest though - which is pretty ironic, considering Michelle replaced her in the group. LeToya was at Michelle's big 30th b'day bash - that Bey nor Kelly was at.
Thats sooo cute to me!!!
Farrah did not fit in. she looked too much like Beyonce. the group lacked variety. i'm just glad that Latoya gained success on her own.
My things is if you were in a group for 7yrs, and your dad tells you that your other friends should be background singers wouldn't you back them up? Letoya said she couldn't even pay her cell phone bill while Beyonce and Kelly had BMW's, I believe. Letoya mom was skeptical of the situation.
Where did you hear that at? I thought they all got paid the same.
Japaul Jackson nah Beyonce and Kelly got all the money letoya and latavia got the scrapping that were left over they always did backing vocals and when it got time to sing live they would always be in the back lip syncing there recorded parts nobody really paid attention to them really mainly Beyonce and when when Kelly got the bridge the writings on the wall was a huge success 2 singles hitting #1 and a song that hit #3 and #33 and poured in lots of money but we all know what 2 people got most of the money
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florence smj Damn right she was. She was jealous of Beyonce and Kelly getting all the singing time on the songs.
They all got paid the same, I believe. The issue was that Matthew was making 20%. As a manager that is very high. He was getting paid as if he were a member of the group!
Beyoncé sneaky. Period.
Well she snuck her way to billions
Right, Farrah complained about Matthew and among other things. I followed this story every since the "Say My Name" video came out in 2000. I heard all of their sides to the story and Farrah's never changed either.
Well Beyonce got her prayers come true six years after in 06, I believe LeToya and Beyonce encountered each other in BET and I belive they had a picture together.
And Beyoncé walked up to Latavia as Latavia said that
@@xavierandrews5774 what do you mean?
@@theunimpressedbeetch well latavia and her friend saw beyoncé at one time after the break up and beyoncé walk towards them and hugged and talked it's on a interview that latavia did
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Lmao bey & kelly at the end! shit had me laughing like hell.
@Famfriass yea i know that Beyonce has talent---that's why she was the leader but i was just letting you know that they have some grreat talent too and and if people woud stop focussing on Beyonce for just 1 secod then mabey they could win a greammy or 2 and try to even get near her lol
I believe LeToya's and LaTavia's side more than Kelly's and Beyonce's and Kelly waited 10 years later to do wat Toy and Tav did.
well with all the craziness they had going on they got back in that studio recorded the survivor album which had 2 #1 hits and debuted at #1 on the charts
KELLY THATS SOME HARD LOVE LMAO!!!!
Letoya's description of the break up is too funny tho! 0:30 lol
Best line of the whole clip goes to Kelly! "hmmm, well they slapped a nice lawsuit on us" Hilarious!
I believe letoya and latavia. However a group can’t have separate managers. Only way is for them to agree on 1 manager or majority vote, but case of split 2/2. The 2 didn’t want Matthew when he had been driving force to get them to that point, quitting his job. Even though they wanted new / their own, he was also dad of the main talent lead singer so I can see their decision to move forward quick with momentum of album instead of stalling in releasing their biggest song on the album.
They should have communicated they weren’t happy and explained meeting communicated about how money was split..
I 100% agree, especially with the communication part. I just wanna say that they were all young(around 18). So they didn’t really know how to deal with a situation like this. Tavia and Toya have actually said that they wished they communicated with Bey and Kelendria.
@Famfriass Janet Jackson, Whitney, TLC and Vanessa Williams were very much famous at the same time as Mariah Carey (who was barely even perceived as a "black girl" for much of her career). Halle Berry has had success at the same time as Beyonce, as well as Alicia Keys and Rihanna. Aretha Franklin and Donna Summer had success around the same time as Diana Ross.
Kelly looks like Donna Summers
It's easy to say its Beyonce's fault but what seems to be consistent throughout all the interviews is that the girls cared for each other and miscommunications played a major role. . Matthew did what he had to , he did almost go through a divorce, sacrificed a lucrative CEO position and spent a lot of money to help these girls make it as far as they did . Latavia and Letoya's parent should have got a better manager contract with Matthew . They couldn't start anything without them .
I think it was Beyonces dads fault 4 favoring kelly and beyonce
aint mathew lost farrah too?!!!!!
6 months later
we were problems for a while now.......duh beyonce ppl are being tired of being used by you all the time
Even if "4" wasn't that good in singles, it went #1 in billboard and it got great sales, plus she has a great stable career, and her first 3 albums had enough good singles to already make a greatest hits album, she is happily married to the man she loves, which is the great Jay-Z, they have a child together, plus she has enough money live the fabulous life, so Karma did not do nothing to Beyonce, much love to you, no hate, Goodnight.
Well her husband cheated though
The same way Latavia heard about the breakup by watching the video was the same exact way everyone else found out about it...that’s sad...and even though this was 20 plus years ago, I’m still not over with it because I was a child and I was SHOCKED ...my subconscious developing mind was fucked up as a result of this
Lol yall destiny child fans are DRAMATIC 💀💀💀
You need to see a therapist
@cosmic... your mother does for deciding to keep you
it was her father matthew's fault is what i heard!
Part of the reason Farrah left because Matthew was making passes at her.
No Farrah left because she was as insecure to be in a singing group with talented singers and she wasn’t one... imagine joining a basketball team when you can’t even play basketball... you’re eventually gonna find your exit
@@thegoldenbowl5217 lol you just made that up.
@ridethemaverick ... no I didn’t ... she’s not a singer, so she was insecure... mathew didn’t treat her well at one instance yes as he yelled at her but the passes at her comment was purely made up by people like her and YOU for attention purposes... it’s baseless and if that were the case she would have taken legal action but she didn’t
@@thegoldenbowl5217 you’re right. That comment was 9 years ago was from pure speculation, but she gave the reason why she left the group and it had nothing to do with her feeling insecure as a singer. You made that up.
Dude who's gonna admit on television and interviews they were insecure come on...she was saving face...homegirl had insecurities back then and still TODAY...look at the way she talks in interviews etc...she has deep insecurities and issues right in front of our faces what do you mean?
exactly idk she could sing until she came out with torn
its funny how at 1:20, they talk about their new video "say my name" not knowing that they would get replaced that fast...so bey n matthew had to have found the two new members while toya and tavia were still in the group basically without them even knowin,..that is crazy
No... shortly after this letoya and latavia sent legal letters to Columbia... Tina Beyonces mother found the other two members that auditioned for them individually at their house in Houston... mathew actually wanted the original girls to work out there differences but Beyonce was adamant about getting new members with her mother...read the book “becoming Beyonce” by j tiborelli
@cushe83 LOL, exactly. Beyonce did an interview back in 06 and she said that it was their intention to have many girls in the video so you couldn't tell who was in the group and who wasn't but I could tell who were in the group cause Farrah and Michelle was the only two members besides Bee and Kelly that were singing to the track.
Farrah was really pretty at 0:36. Latoya, Latavia and Farrah should have started a group.
beyounce and kelly know if the tables where turned they would have slept a lawsuit too
if beyonce didn't want they girls to talk about the situation then they shouldn't. She was the one affected by the whole thing the most. Everyone blamed her and she had no control of what letoya an latavia were doing and at the same time they were some of her closest friends. So if she tells kelly don't mention something then SHE SHOULDN'T MENTION IT lol...bey doesn't act like it in interviews or on stage but thru that whole time she was seriously depressed,not even coming out her room sometimes
I guess you are a true fan of Beyonce like me and I totally agree with you
@ROCKSTARGANGSTA12 You is so right Toya and Tavia had no problem with their role in the group it was Beyonce's damn daddy they had enough of.
This and the failed The Supremes reunion tour with Diana Ross was the juiciest drama back then. And such amazing parallels!
When you have an album out you have to promote it and do rehearsals, prepare for videos, etc. When you don't show and make demands that half the group won't agree to -- guess who gets to be the odd "women" out. It made sense that they were ousted. Frankly, they weren't missed and the group didn't miss a beat. Groups have ONE manager, not two or four. That's not how the business is conducted. It doesn't matter what team anyone is on. This happened over a decade ago and they have all moved on.
Dc should do a reunion with b,kelly,mich,tavia,toya,and farrah
I had a Dream about that
Maybe not Farrah
The 5 perhaps perhaps have a very good chance reuniting, but Farrah even though I love her, she will not be invited I can see it now
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DC5 no farrah
thats bullshit . u might wanna check ur info . they replaced them without them knowin . thats y they won there lawsuit . stop swearin u no shit wen its all over the internet about them gettin replaced without notice .
If it's beyonce's fault,,,you world and people tell me WHY beyonce is still a super star all over the world and these girls are not???? is matthew controlling us people or buyin millions of cds of beyonce? COME ON!!!!!!
I hope the people who are pretending as if Latoya and latavia were so fantastic bought their flop albums/
actually they only got checks for the albums they were on and the lawsuit money. Legally speaking, they had no claim over any future albums they didn't help create.
what i don't understand is how Beyonce says she let them know & the whole line up change issue developed overtime but if you watch Beyonce VH1 Driven theyre talking about how it hit her hard w/ THEM leaving drastically W/O her knowing & her calling them trying to pull them together & it hurting her so bad cause they were all close like sisters since childhood so she slipped into depression- SOMETHING'S NOT ADDING UP. they always try to make her so perfect til the point it makes her seem devious
Sweetie you need the spirit of discernment
It was easy to switch the girls, because Beyoncé is the lead. Destiny’s Child IS Beyoncé.
Yep, the reason Toya and Tavia were so easily replaced is cause they were basically background dancers. Mathew Knowles made sure they didn’t add much to the group.
Praise Jesus....Lol.
@iiablaze 1) They did not turn into little divas. Matthew was cheating them out of their money. That's why they wanted to end their management agreement with him. Are they suppose to just let Matthew sit back and get rich, while they are struggle to pay thier bills. The record label dont' care how many mangers are managing a group. As long as the "Artist" fulfills their obligations to the record label. The "Artist" is resposible for management not the record.
@Deniroification did you notice that -both- sides agreed on pretty much everything except whether the girls kicked out had discussed leaving? I find it very telling that they say "We never knew, never spoke about it" and yet they also say "We don't hold our being kicked out against the other two girls, we have nothing but love for them." even as the Beyonce and Kelly are publicly insisting everyone knew... Wouldn't you hold that against Beyonce and Kelly if you truly had no clue? I would have.
Jesus I don't know how to like comments anymore... This new format SUCKS
bullshit regardless aint no way u have 2 good albums and u cant pay ur bills . everybody no matthew was takin money from them and it just came out that he was stealin from beyonce thats y she fired him and if u dont believe me look it up
Farrah was the under-rated one in destiny's child
She a beauty
That girl was strikingly gorgeous
Deservedly because she wasn’t a singer like everyone else
Y’all say the dumbest shit on the internet. Underrated HOW Farrah couldn’t sing a lick
Karma is serving Beyonce? Over 75 million albums sold, 16 grammys, 6 #1 Box Office movies, & the only female artist with 4 #1 consecutive albums... etc. That's some good ass karma right there.
Farrah prettier than Beyonce?? Really?? 2Bdiscovered needs to get his eyes checked.
and let the church say...........AMEN
kelly and beyonce didnt kcik them out this was between letoya and latavia and matthew knowles
En Vogue, TLC
CORRECT YOURSELF...alicia keys has 5 #1 consecutive albums..even 4 which was considered a flop
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Farrah looked nothing like Beyonce. She was actually way more beautiful. Had light eyes, striking features..that was the problem. She was better looking than Beyonce.
Light eyes do not make you more beautiful...that's white supremacists thinking... research it....dark eyes are gorgeous and healthier.
Farrah was beautiful, but she couldn't sing.
that's the shit that always burned me up. Like how the fuck can't LaToya pay her cell phone bill and her mom drives a mazda while Bey in a Jag?!
Because she didn’t know how to manage her damn checks
@solefan99 I agree and I'm glad that someone else saw what I saw. In due time people will start to see beyonce's really character.
@jmarc8200 I think Kelly wanted to leave when Toya & Tavia left but she didn't feel like she had an option.
this drama is so ugly. if it happened today beyonce wouldnt have a career, shed be cancelled right from this moment. and thats to blame on her father.
its so sad . bust there ass to get there deal to be ripped off like that and thru out for trash . matthew is so wicked
Kelly: “well they slapped a nice lawsuit on us” DAMN RIGHT THEY DID CAUSE WHAT YALL DID TO THEM IS AS VILE AND JUST DOWN RIGHT WRONG
actually Letoya do have dat same fame they tried to snatch it but guess what she proved dem wrong she can sing as good as beyonce if not better truth be told
Really? If not a lead there is a more superior singer.
For example I only know two of the member's names.
@Famfriass LOL yea I know!
LMAO ok.....Beyonce always thanks the original and new Destiny's Child for her career, so lets not. How is it wrong for them? Matthew the one that did it. It was drama in the group with the other girls so it was probably better that they got rid of them so the group can progress. Who gives a fuck they weren't missed. If that was the case DC would of been over years ago. You might wanna hear that corny dubstep crap and you have the pop girls for that, but 4 was a great R&B album.