How the First 151 Pokemon Changed Over Time

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2023
  • Did Pokemon always pander to the first generation? I'll be going over Pokemon's history with how they balanced between serving older fans and newer fans in the perspective of the original designs.
    Thank you to @FCPlaythroughs and @worldoflongplays for the gameplay footage
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  • @commonviewer2488
    @commonviewer2488 7 месяцев назад +1585

    Pikachu learned it's own name, and Snorlax learned to stand up and run. This is important to their evolution.

    • @andreaquadrati
      @andreaquadrati 7 месяцев назад +72

      Then Pikachu forgot again.

    • @deanflash112
      @deanflash112 7 месяцев назад +9

      Then won the championship of regional champions.

    • @KertaDrake
      @KertaDrake 7 месяцев назад +45

      And Mewtwo learns to take performance-enhancing stones, but made sure to read the warning labels first so he doesn't take both at once.

    • @Mare-mi2jf
      @Mare-mi2jf 7 месяцев назад +3

      hello

    • @Mare-mi2jf
      @Mare-mi2jf 7 месяцев назад +3

      hello

  • @half-faust
    @half-faust 7 месяцев назад +1084

    I like the convergent pokemon but it is very funny to think of "ghost tea container" as an ecological niche

    • @lollertoaster
      @lollertoaster 7 месяцев назад +123

      You are thinking of this wrong. The Pokemon is what's inside the tea container, not the container itself. There are many Pokemon like this, inhibiting some specific object in one way or another. It makes sense that in two tea drinking regions, two pokemon living in tea container would "evolve" separately.

    • @DumbestDumbFool
      @DumbestDumbFool 7 месяцев назад

      Also adding about convergent, it's two different species that evolves to look similar, in this case, two ancestor of both polteagheist evolved to look like these tea drinking dishes to protect themselves from predators, and thus making both of them looks pretty similar in the idea, plus how they are actually "evolved" to deal with the changes in environment in specific case which is human urbanization and "evolved" to have same idea thus it is called convergent. The other way happened with the other convergent digglet and tentacool line, which evolves to appear similar, where convergent "evolution" usually in real world happened because both species lives in the same space and the shape specific to both of them are very good to survive the specific areas they live in (it happened a LOT to crabs and turtles, they have 2-3 different genus belonged to different families and sometimes even ordos that looks pretty much super similar to the point that scientists got a name for the phenomenon).

    • @happiattack
      @happiattack 7 месяцев назад +101

      @@lollertoasterghost tea being an ecological niche is still funny ngl

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo 7 месяцев назад +5

      Convergent evolution is different animals evolving similar traits on the same environment, like Dolphins and Sharks.
      Every one of the ones people try to sell as "convergent" are everything but, they are just mimicking other species.

    • @LumaTo
      @LumaTo 7 месяцев назад +16

      @@RandalfElVikingo I don't think anyone seriously thinks that the forces of evolution are truly in play in the Pokemon universe. The creators thought it would be fun to create Pokemon that look similar to ones we've seen before and didn't want to make them "XYZ" Regional forms. This is fictitious universe that has proven to be consistently inconsistent - whether or not you like it is another matter.
      Convergent evolution is also far more complicated than requiring the same environment - but it's use here is to frame it with a phenomenon that is known about in our real world.

  • @banobobot
    @banobobot 7 месяцев назад +1879

    It’s pretty crazy that the main Generation V games did not have Pikachu in its respective region.

    • @ManifestationPowerhouse
      @ManifestationPowerhouse 7 месяцев назад +187

      You don’t need the word ‘respective’ here.

    • @AuburnInAutumn
      @AuburnInAutumn 7 месяцев назад +109

      @@ManifestationPowerhousekinda. They were specifying that the National dex doesn’t count with funny words

    • @Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan
      @Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan 7 месяцев назад +200

      And yet Psyduck has been in every game

    • @Rajclaw
      @Rajclaw 7 месяцев назад +87

      @@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafanpsyduck mvp

    • @sackofpotatoes1345
      @sackofpotatoes1345 7 месяцев назад +31

      ​​@@ManifestationPowerhousesir, this is a Pokemon video

  • @AWE-Nessy
    @AWE-Nessy 7 месяцев назад +359

    What a great video i hope the creator didn't go insane when drawing the charizard line

    • @Melecie
      @Melecie 7 месяцев назад +54

      they held a ~6 hour charizardathon livestream a few whiles back drawing all the charizard, it got unlisted though

    • @shalvei_
      @shalvei_ 7 месяцев назад +36

      @@Melecie I believe they're referencing that exact thing, as a joke

    • @josiahtimothygo6693
      @josiahtimothygo6693 7 месяцев назад +2

      Yea

  • @duplollamaree1250
    @duplollamaree1250 7 месяцев назад +210

    22:20
    actually, they try to explain new types in the manga ay one point - when the steel type was added in gold and silver, the characters discussed the fact that various pokemon that had already been discovered and documented (such as magnemite) may actually have this undiscovered type, and they hadn't considered it before because there weren't enough pokemon with the same attributes to support it as its own type. when other pokemon like steelix were discovered however, they found the common attributes associated with the steel type, and classified the initial pokemon accordingly...
    it could be that with the fairy type, they just didn't think that the shared attributes between existing discovered pokemon were enough for a new classification, so when more research was done and new pokemon were found, they decided that fairy would need to be a new classification.
    idk, just thought that that was interesting. sometimes pokemon does explain things, it just takes some digging :)

    • @ugn154
      @ugn154 6 месяцев назад +15

      Makes plenty sense. Also considering that certain species call specific regions their home, making it harder to research a specific type when so very few live in that region. We have an example of this with Skarmory, who prefers to live in canyon and crag mountain side like enviorments, which Kanto lacks but Johto doesn't. Consider Scyther only being able to evolve when exposed to a Metal Coat. The ones that lived in the region home to Skarmory would eventually be able to run into the shedding of a Skarmory's coat/feathers, compared to the ones in Kanto. Same goes for Onix, leaving Kanto with only one species to study in regards to Steel types, Magnemite, and if you ask me, that's not enough to be sure that these metallic creatures are part of a possible Steel classification/category, so they could only classify it as the more obvious electric type that it clearly was. When it comes to Dark types, Umbreon is the stump on the road, considering nothing stopped an Eevee from evolving into an Umbreon and there was never any evidence of this in Kanto. Yes, Murkrow, Hondour/doom and Tyranitar were Johto mons, which made it easier to identify a similar trait among these species as easy as Steel was to identify, but Umbreon would've and should've been a foreign species that should've driven research into this obscure typing. They would've seen an Espeon's abilities and said: This is definitely a psychic type, but what about this one? It prefers the night time, it's attacks have somewhat of a dark aura to them and he is immune to psychic type attacks, what could it be?
      In comes Johto and shares their research with Kanto, cementing a second new typing, Dark.
      Fairy is a story for another day, and one that sadly, does not have as much of a foundation/proper explanation as to why they weren't known the way the previous two were, since, there was "Fairy" types from the beginning (Mr. Mime, Clefairy/fable and Cleffa, Jpuff, Wtuff and Ibuff, Marill and Azu, Togepi/kiss and the literall fairy species Snubull and Granbull). Imo, zero excuse as to why these weren't included, other than "balancing the game". There was plenty of different pokemon to study and research to come to a conclusion that there was something unique about these species and quite possibly, an unidentified typing. But I guess Kalos had to do the job that Kanto and Johto were to lazy to do.

    • @nemou4985
      @nemou4985 5 месяцев назад +12

      And they suddenly got new weaknesses and resistances when "categorized" ;)

    • @whentheyD
      @whentheyD Месяц назад +1

      @@ugn154nah, there's a reason, they weren't new types, Gen 6 onwards take place in a different timeline and there's evidence of that in ORAS (Looker) and in USUM (destroyed alola)

    • @VinRocks
      @VinRocks 17 дней назад

      "fairy nuff"

    • @jakko_
      @jakko_ 16 дней назад +1

      However, this doesn't explain how they decided a "Ghost" type or "Dragon" type existed when there was only one evolution line that had that type (Gengar and Dragonite)

  • @ebitachy
    @ebitachy 7 месяцев назад +833

    i just want to point out the changes to the models in legends arceus and scarlet/violet are from normal mapping and other such tools, not from creating entirely new models from scratch. ...that would be insane.

    • @gabrielfreitas3033
      @gabrielfreitas3033 7 месяцев назад +142

      That's half true, they've also changed the models to have modeled mouths and eyes instead of textures, alongside some minor changes probably to facilitate the addition of new animations

    • @ebitachy
      @ebitachy 7 месяцев назад +44

      @@gabrielfreitas3033 thank you for expanding on "and other such tools".

    • @henriquecarballoaranha9100
      @henriquecarballoaranha9100 7 месяцев назад +71

      to be fair there's a few specific cases where mons got models tweaked for more than just the facial features too. Persian for instance has had its proportions adjusted noticeably compared to its previous model
      ofc not every mon gets this treatment, but just saying that they do have a few cases of straight up new models

    • @fOk0dAzZ
      @fOk0dAzZ 7 месяцев назад +3

      I'm loving this. what else is to know?

    • @dimetrodon2250
      @dimetrodon2250 7 месяцев назад +39

      Charizard and Mewtwo definitely got special treatment in this regard. Also every Pokemon who's eyes and mouth were 2D textures got an ovehaul to these areas. Their faces are completely different. Also the rigging and animations more than make up for the somewhat reused models. Yungoose for instance has an excellent walking and running animation, where it moves like a real ferret or mongoose, instead of like a stiff tube. Also have contextual animations for flying pokemon, where they arent permanently suspended in the air, and will land and walk when necessary is nice. Being on an HD screen means that smaller Pokemon could be accurately scales, which is a huge plus. The Problem now is athat Pokemon Go and HOME use the gen 6-8 style models, to the point where some of the new PLA and S/V mons actually needed downgraded versions of their models/textures.

  • @nathanlamberth7631
    @nathanlamberth7631 7 месяцев назад +200

    I was literally thinking “I sure hope he didn’t painfully make each one of these Pokémon depictions” they are too good looking for how little they get shown

  • @henriquecarballoaranha9100
    @henriquecarballoaranha9100 7 месяцев назад +375

    I wanna point out that while ys the nostalgia factor plays a big role in why so many old Pokémon get new things, there's also the aspect of powercreep. Pokémon's competitive angle has changed drastically since the first few generations and the simple matter of fact is that the majority of Gen 1 (and really 1 to 3) mons had poorly distributed stats, so they simply couldn't really keep up. Things such as Regional Variants or new evolutions help bring these back immensely

    • @dannycat3970
      @dannycat3970 7 месяцев назад +19

      That's an excellent point and these these reasons combined are why in personally fine with them favoring gen 1. It's an effort to bolster pokemons iconography imo

    • @pokemonrampagemake
      @pokemonrampagemake 7 месяцев назад +21

      Definitely a fair point. Gen 2 could use some of that love too, it’s Pokémon are generally struggling

    • @lupvirga
      @lupvirga 7 месяцев назад +2

      Regional Variants doesn't change much though. it's still a new pokemon just with a familiar face.

    • @doloreshaze-ji4jw
      @doloreshaze-ji4jw 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@lupvirgaI assume he was referring to the redistribution of stats of new regional variants, which is a good way to help old pokémon stay relevant competitively, since their original stats would perform poorly in competitive fights as the generations progressed.

    • @nemou4985
      @nemou4985 5 месяцев назад

      @@doloreshaze-ji4jw But you don't really have the OG sprite then

  • @eclipse9727
    @eclipse9727 7 месяцев назад +38

    37:04 I love how they got so angry when they said "Primape gets so angry that it DIES!!", you can hear the *Sliiightest* bit of a mic bump afterward. Beautiful. Just beautiful.

  • @neo_b
    @neo_b 7 месяцев назад +415

    im get it out of the way, i dont mind gen 1 pokemon getting new forms, i enjoy seeing them as modern interpretations… still waiting for a Dewgong line form/variant lol

    • @5asDMteam
      @5asDMteam 7 месяцев назад +33

      don't think about it, even the developers have forgotten about it

    • @13DarkForce
      @13DarkForce 7 месяцев назад +41

      I'm waiting for a Dragonite that actually looks like an evolution of his line

    • @allenchoyce5634
      @allenchoyce5634 7 месяцев назад +26

      I'm waiting on Arbok to get ANYTHING and for Golduck to be part Psychic type

    • @AlolanAlomomola
      @AlolanAlomomola 7 месяцев назад +3

      They even make them more competitively relevant, look at Ninetales

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 7 месяцев назад +7

      I think they will just always sideline the Seel line because they will never find a way to make it competitively relevant or in a place that fits its stuff

  • @FlipswitchX
    @FlipswitchX 7 месяцев назад +67

    I find it super weird that through ALL of that, Kangaskhan's baby never became it's own pokemon.
    Also no alternate Dragonite form of any kind.

    • @doughboywhine
      @doughboywhine 2 месяца назад +7

      and we still don't know how cubone's mothers get them their skulls while still alive

  • @geekecology
    @geekecology 7 месяцев назад +171

    Man, I forgot how much I loved the original Pikachu sprite. Great vid!

  • @pro_gemer
    @pro_gemer 7 месяцев назад +41

    I really like those timelapses, they recap the entire video in a really nice way

  • @darby2314
    @darby2314 7 месяцев назад +45

    One interesting thing you left out from the original 3D Sprites. On the 3ds In 2011, nearly 2 years before the X and Y announcement, they released the Pokedex 3D. Which was a free app you could download onto your 3ds and slowly unlock a full Pokedex of every single Pokemon that existed up to that point. This was a way to utilize those 3d Models they had developed for X/Y prior to the release, and help build the hype.

  • @Bepppp
    @Bepppp 7 месяцев назад +16

    I like how Psyduck is in every generation

  • @thepizzaman6310
    @thepizzaman6310 7 месяцев назад +40

    Just want to say i love the way you draw all the pokemon, especially Eevee. Its pure eye-candy.

    • @KertaDrake
      @KertaDrake 7 месяцев назад +1

      Idunno.... Mr. Mime looks like he would show up standing at the foot of your bed while planning to eat your soul...

  • @chadgorosaurus4898
    @chadgorosaurus4898 7 месяцев назад +47

    Fat pikachu needs to become a regional form.

    • @alonk1060
      @alonk1060 7 месяцев назад +14

      Or just a rare version

  • @Pop5chan
    @Pop5chan 7 месяцев назад +30

    It’s crazy because I’m a victim of it. In general 5 I was “too old” for Pokémon and I went back later and they’re great Games. I wish people would’ve bought more at the time of gen 5 cause it was great

    • @Yous0147
      @Yous0147 7 месяцев назад +4

      Gen 5 was a hit and miss for me in terms of design. Some of my favourite Pokemon are from this gen, and yet some of my (then) least favourite designs were also from that gen. Victini is even my favourite, closely followed by Lilligant, Chandelure and Scrafty. But I'm one of those people that can't get behind the twin ice cream Pokemon, or the golem, or KlingKlang, and that's not because I'm a genwunner, it has more to do with what their designs actually says about the wider Pokemon world. Essentially they rip me right out of the immersivenes of the world.

    • @linksauce_1
      @linksauce_1 7 месяцев назад

      Didn't play it until about 2 years ago for the same reason. I checked out of the franchise after HG/SS. I'm glad I came back to them

  • @jeroenvdw
    @jeroenvdw 5 месяцев назад +12

    Mega evolution was dope, I hope they'll bring it back with way more current Pokémon that can use it.

  • @jamesstark6499
    @jamesstark6499 7 месяцев назад +75

    There was a lore reason for the fairy typing in XY. The Ultimate Weapon is like Schrödinger’s Cat, it both went off and didn’t go off. The first five gens are the world where the Ultimate Weapon did not get fired, while Gen 6 and onward are the world where the Ultimate Weapon went off. So, fairy type just doesn’t exist in the world where the Ultimate Weapon didn’t fire. Same with mega evolutions and Z-moves (since they use infinity energy which doesn’t exist in the world of the first five gens).

    • @gagan6749
      @gagan6749 7 месяцев назад +1

      Well then is BDSP/SWSH/SV/PLA from the ultimate weapon world fired one or the not fired one? Because all of them have fairy type but no mega

    • @mray4784
      @mray4784 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@gagan6749 Because people on other regions don't use mega, they use dinamax and tera.

    • @jamesstark6499
      @jamesstark6499 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@gagan6749 yeah, they’re from the timeline where the weapon went off. Idk about BDSP, tbh, because honestly I think that was just made by a team that didn’t really care much about these things given how bare bones it is. BDSP, lore wise should’ve had it because of the Devon Corporation and literally every other region in “Poke-Japan” using Infinity Energy (except Kitikami since it has Tera crystals). However, I don’t think they’ve given a real lore reason for why Mega’s and Z-moves aren’t in the other regions, I’m hoping maybe we’ll get answers with the Indigo Disk since Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant seem tied to megas.
      My head cannon at the moment is each region just uses the energy that’s readily available, based on how Galar, Paldea, and Kitikami are done. They’d rather use the energy they have. Plus, Galar and Paldea would’ve been the most effected by Kalos’s war, so they might shun infinity energy because of how it’s hurt them. As for PLA, that’s the one that makes the most sense in my mind. “Poke-Japan” seems to parallel real Japan more than Poke-America and Poke-Europe. The Meiji Period was just when Japan started getting in touch with the West, and they mostly knew of Americans. It’s unlikely the people of Hisui had been in touch with Kalos to even know about infinity energy. The Hisuian’s barely even knew how to use Pokémon, it’s not too surprising to me they wouldn’t know how to use mega evolutions.
      Like I said, I’m hoping that the Indigo Disk gives us some answers. SV does seem to be taking time to fill in lore holes, and us being at a terrarium off the coast of Unova and figuring out what’s up with the paradox Pokémon, I wouldn’t be surprised to get answers on why megas seem to be locked to Kalos, Alola, and Poke-Japan (except Sinnoh and Kitikami).

    • @gagan6749
      @gagan6749 7 месяцев назад

      @@mray4784 well that's weird because lore wise if z moves and mega can co-exist why can't the other? And lore-wise bdsp should've had mega same for Pokemons legends Arceus (it has sylveon even), but it didn't.

    • @mray4784
      @mray4784 7 месяцев назад

      @@gagan6749 Because not every country (region) is the same.

  • @caitlinabbott7895
    @caitlinabbott7895 7 месяцев назад +38

    33:23
    "And players STILL loved this game! For the refreshing catch mechanic and action boss battles."
    Also because Ingo was there. You forgot to mention that

    • @laravioliiii2832
      @laravioliiii2832 7 месяцев назад +2

      and because a lot of the characters were very very hot.

  • @sveipr6516
    @sveipr6516 7 месяцев назад +10

    Looks like the original 151 pokemon lines that haven't been touched at all are:
    Fearow
    Arbok
    Nidoqueen/king
    Parasect
    Venomoth
    Golduck
    Victreebel
    Dodrio
    Dewgong
    Cloyster
    Hypno
    Seaking
    Starmie
    Ditto
    Omastar
    Kabutops
    Dragonite

    • @sheikahblight
      @sheikahblight 7 месяцев назад +5

      Ditto was technically touched. It became a central part to breeding

    • @anstupid4093
      @anstupid4093 15 дней назад

      Dragonite is already perfect

  • @jaym8988
    @jaym8988 7 месяцев назад +40

    You know what's interesting? Generation 7 is also when I decided to get back into Pokémon. I didn't like the designs of Gen 3, but I thought Gen 7 had natural looking designs. Of course, I didn't know about Ultra Beasts, Tapus, and Necrozma before they released, but I went back and bought Gens 3, 4, 5, and 6 to catch up.

  • @Say.LilJay
    @Say.LilJay 7 месяцев назад +13

    I loved the whole video!! You’re so engaging and summed up the series so well, I even learned a few things. I don’t even want to think about how long it took to edit this video, but you did an amazing job and I’m so proud of you!

  • @peripatches
    @peripatches 7 месяцев назад +16

    Loved watching this video! Was very fun to see an analysis for how things have changed over the years with the mainline games. Amazing work as always! 😄

  • @eddie-roo
    @eddie-roo 7 месяцев назад +56

    God, you’re such a good composers, that transition into the Stema theme was so good.

  • @gregolas5873
    @gregolas5873 7 месяцев назад +23

    Amazing work, Nortist. It's obvious that your videos are a passion of love and they are a joy to watch because of it.

  • @Zaka0223
    @Zaka0223 7 месяцев назад +5

    Old pikachu was very wide

    • @Zone_Person
      @Zone_Person 12 дней назад +1

      i prefer it like that, looks cuter

  • @rafaelluciano5596
    @rafaelluciano5596 7 месяцев назад +34

    Based off of the tile nod and his video, this was not what I expected. I was thinking we would get a more specific breakdown on how the art designs of each gen 1 pokemon transitioned over time, not a description of evolutionary branches and systemic changes :/
    Also I think it should be noted that the dip in sales for black and white is likely due to the prevalence of R4 piracy at the time, and not necessarily a negative reaction to the region. That was a unique problem late in the life of the DS that most games then faced.

    • @Johnjohnson2695
      @Johnjohnson2695 7 месяцев назад +8

      Agreed. A good video but I think the title is wrong.

    • @eclipsesoluna3453
      @eclipsesoluna3453 7 месяцев назад

      same

    • @NecromancyForKids
      @NecromancyForKids 3 месяца назад

      It did feel like they went a little too in depth to aspects that are unrelated to the title.

  • @cheeseman1769
    @cheeseman1769 7 месяцев назад +7

    22:15
    I swear there was an explanation but I think I must have dreamt about it because I don't hear anyone else talk about it. What I remember is that Xerneas was dormant all this time, and some time before the events of X&Y it awakened, and its presence returned the fairy type to every pokemon that lost it when it was asleep

    • @TheRedSmarty
      @TheRedSmarty 7 месяцев назад +1

      That doesn't explain the presence of the Fairy type in Let's Go, BDSP, or Legends: Arceus though.

    • @TWLSpark
      @TWLSpark 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@TheRedSmarty Not Let's Go, but in Arceus you could chalk it to Xerneas being awake many years ago, going to sleep and waking up again later.
      It's a nice headcanon, at the very least.

    • @Glaceon_Guy
      @Glaceon_Guy 2 месяца назад

      So that means Sylveon is canonically the Normal-type Eeveelution... because honestly, what else would it be if you took its Fairy typing away: same as Togepi, Clefairy and others. Damn, that's... a revelation...

  • @Strike-hopper
    @Strike-hopper 7 месяцев назад +3

    Gen 3 was where pokemon peaked change my mind ⚡

  • @KreepyKat911
    @KreepyKat911 7 месяцев назад +9

    Lol when the Hoenn music started up I felt my pulse pick up. I was into pokemon prior to third gen, but Ruby was my very first pokemon game. It holds a special place in my heart.

  • @aaronolson6736
    @aaronolson6736 7 месяцев назад +65

    They way you described BDSP is a perfect reasoning for its existence, Pokemon can do this method in the future so long as the games aren't full price as they aren't meant to be new (and with gen5 next, remasters of BW leading into remakes of BW2 would be a good plan). As far as the balancing act of nostalgia, I think they've learned that the series has been around long enough they don't need to rely on just the original Pokemon, so long as they don't forget about some. Parasect have received nothing yet but PLA made them known as hyper aggressive, Dewgong, Fearow, the Nido family, Victreebel, Cloyster, Hypno, Seaking, Golduck, and Starmie are all contenders for something to spice them up or make them interesting.

  • @bruhmphrey
    @bruhmphrey 7 месяцев назад +28

    Great long-form content! Really enjoyed this.

    • @AuburnInAutumn
      @AuburnInAutumn 7 месяцев назад

      I’m pretty proud of him. Sounds like he’s being working really hard on his speech impediment.

  • @theknightwithabadpictotall7639
    @theknightwithabadpictotall7639 7 месяцев назад +41

    Now that the gen V games are more popular than ever, I wonder what the Pokémon Company plans to do with that information. If they have any sort of common sense, they should know that just making Black and White remakes while leaving out Black 2 and White 2 is gonna piss everyone off. On the other hand, remaking 2 sets of games seems like a lot work, especially considering how much they rush things. The best case scenario would be a Black 3 and White 3, as long as they make a good enough story for it.

    • @Carcosahead
      @Carcosahead 7 месяцев назад +26

      worst case scenario they remake the games but chibi, full price, no modifications to the story or events

    • @ratedr7845
      @ratedr7845 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@Carcosaheadpeople are getting tired of gamefreak and their crap, if they do that, they will get ripped apart

    • @user-sf9ku9qj1q
      @user-sf9ku9qj1q 7 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@ratedr7845but it will still sell really really well. Corps react to money, nothing else. They don't care about complaints, hell, they might even make fun of us behind closed doors. I buy the games almost a year after launch but too many preoder and buy day one so, why change?

    • @ratedr7845
      @ratedr7845 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@user-sf9ku9qj1q you can only get punked so many times, they will snap eventually, i see your reasoning though

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 7 месяцев назад +2

      In a very weird sense, I now want them to release a remake of Black and White, or even Black 2/White 2. I want them to fail that remake so badly any illusions about GameFreak being a good company that can improve are shattered. The fans have proven time and time again they can make new Pokémon, Pokémon maps, Pokémon stories, tweaks to existing games, entirely new games and stories using an engine, and far more. It is my opinion that despite being the lynchpin that Pokémon rests upon, GameFreak is completely redundant.

  • @kudoss2137
    @kudoss2137 6 месяцев назад +2

    This was so cool to watch! Very well made and enjoyable!

  • @jocofo
    @jocofo 7 месяцев назад +17

    a Vinny clip is probably the last thing I'd expect to see on this channel
    that was gold

  • @ReverMint
    @ReverMint 7 месяцев назад +7

    What a great and well researched video! I think Scarlet & Violet finally reached a nice balance, bringing a bit of nostalgia from older generations but not focusing solely on Gen 1, while also bringing tons of brand new designs and ideas.

  • @snailroyal
    @snailroyal 2 месяца назад +1

    amazing video and incredible work with the art!!! thats so much work and you went so hard!!!!

  • @SugarSpice07
    @SugarSpice07 7 месяцев назад +9

    I'm so glad that the games are starting to bring back great stories with Legends Arceus and Scarlet/Violet. Especially since thats most of the reason I play games.

  • @Kurayamiblack
    @Kurayamiblack 7 месяцев назад +11

    I love how the logic behind Gigantamax Pikachu seemed to be "Let's take the original R/B Thickachu sprite and make it THICCER"

    • @weedlebunz
      @weedlebunz 5 месяцев назад +1

      THICC INDEED

  • @mmeikol
    @mmeikol 7 месяцев назад +4

    I wouldn’t call myself a genwunner/gen oner, but with every new game/DLC I do check which of the original 151 made the cut

  • @Annonymous_Human
    @Annonymous_Human 7 месяцев назад +3

    Great work as always, n0Rt!
    Your are one of the few RUclipsrs that can keep me entertained for more than 40 minutes without clicking off.

  • @phlan6850
    @phlan6850 7 месяцев назад +7

    Thank you for putting so much work into your videos and projects!Between regular and high quality videos, music, stema game development, RUclips collabs, kadomon, all of your pokemon graphics, and probably a bunch of other stuff that I haven't stumbled across yet you do so much. From a stem student, please be careful not to let yourself burn out, and thank you for everything you do!

  • @Valnanailo
    @Valnanailo 7 месяцев назад +5

    Won't lie watching the entire 151 change and reduce at the end was my favorite to watch

  • @CyColt
    @CyColt 7 месяцев назад +15

    I first played Pokemon Yellow, on my grandmother's Gameboy, more so on Gameboy Advance.
    We played a lot of older consoles well past their date, i think....
    I remember us having a Nintendo 64 in 2007.

  • @luishenriquedeutsch1214
    @luishenriquedeutsch1214 7 месяцев назад +1

    Congrats. This is an excellent material. Love the drawings!! ❤

  • @prajwalshakya5038
    @prajwalshakya5038 2 месяца назад +1

    Watching some fun facts about Pokémon was enjoyable! I think that this is the only long video that I've ever watched until end till now. Keep it up! 👏 I would love to see more with further anticipation to see new ideas with related tkpics in the future! Love for the Pokémon! 😍😊❤️❣️

  • @5asDMteam
    @5asDMteam 7 месяцев назад +8

    another lecture by Professor Nortist uaaaaay

  • @sdj0914
    @sdj0914 7 месяцев назад +3

    You forgot they added pika-clones just to match with our mascot.

  • @Kaiser25
    @Kaiser25 6 месяцев назад +2

    That animation at the end was pretty neat, loved the touch with the music aswell

  • @unripetheberrby6283
    @unripetheberrby6283 5 месяцев назад +1

    What a nice graph, and presentation at the end! ^^

  • @Bergsen_Bun-sense
    @Bergsen_Bun-sense 7 месяцев назад +4

    Did you draw the arts for the mons in this video?? These are insanely good

  • @chaokid999
    @chaokid999 7 месяцев назад +9

    Amazing video! One of the biggest letdowns of Let's Go for me was not getting an expanded Gen 1 Dex now that Pichu, Sylveon and so many other additions to the original lines exist.

    • @ggrarl
      @ggrarl 7 месяцев назад

      None of the cross gen evolutions (although it was cool we had the regional variants) was annoying. I guess I could live without the abilities (having been playing Stadium recently), but why no Sevii Islands?

  • @songanon
    @songanon 7 месяцев назад +1

    great video man! keep it up

  • @LinenMinun
    @LinenMinun 7 месяцев назад +1

    I really loved the way you used the music in this video!!

  • @markdpane
    @markdpane 7 месяцев назад +5

    Pretty informative. You should do this kind of video for the evolutionary families of Pokemon from later generations.

  • @pepebotella5210
    @pepebotella5210 7 месяцев назад +5

    Congratulations on that graphic at the end. I think no one has done something like that ever! Very resourceful, I would love if you could upload it to a website or do a slower video so that we could take a look at it closer.
    By the way, were the streams where you did all the emojis archived?

  • @m0nd3r83
    @m0nd3r83 7 месяцев назад +2

    rly nice vid man love it

  • @pankoty1479
    @pankoty1479 2 месяца назад +1

    masterpiece of a video, really enjoyed watching this.

  • @oripoke4396
    @oripoke4396 7 месяцев назад +16

    Another great video n0rt! Other comments have said this already, but I wanted to reiterate how much I appreciate all the effort you put into these videos, from creating custom artwork of all the mons, making unique motion graphics, collecting hundreds of relevant b-roll clips, and writing such thoughtful and informative video scripts! Keep up the amazing work, but remember to take care of yourself too :)

  • @MrBobxxl
    @MrBobxxl 7 месяцев назад +4

    big respect for the effort. especially the last time-diagram was really nice to look at.
    Besides all the struggles you mentioned, i think your graphs show pretty clear that the biggest problem for pokemon is, that they just release the games more and more rapid since the atleast a % of the playerbase will buy any new pokemon game anyways. i really hope people will soon just stop buying unfinished games resulting in them maybe getting back to a 2 year development cycle instead of 0,7years per game

  • @MagnaLynx21
    @MagnaLynx21 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video, the translation of the the Sugimori art style with you're animation are a feast for the eyes

  • @GoyaChamploo
    @GoyaChamploo 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love all the art in this video, great stuff!

  • @mewhower
    @mewhower 7 месяцев назад +4

    At 9:06 Milotic and Gyarados' stats are swapped.

  • @benedictdakirby9919
    @benedictdakirby9919 7 месяцев назад +3

    I line to call the convergent forms the doppelmons

  • @Traumasamanen
    @Traumasamanen 7 месяцев назад +1

    Really interesting video, thank you!

  • @nachobaeza
    @nachobaeza 7 месяцев назад +1

    The illustrations were so good!

  • @kirinotosaki9004
    @kirinotosaki9004 7 месяцев назад +7

    Ok, watching the summary in the end, the only ones that were not touched by Gamefreak from the beginning in any sort of way (babies included) were the evolution lines of Fearow, Arbok, the Nidos, Parasect, Venomoth, Golduck, Dodrio, Dewgong, Cloyster, Hypno, Seaking, Starmie, the Two Fossils and Dragonite.
    That's a lot shockingly, also sad at the same time since Arbok was my most favorite Gen 1 Pokemon and it didn't get even anything (it got a semi-regional variants but like they reverted them to the original design... WHY NOT INTRODUCE A REGIONAL ARBOK WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE??)

    • @LyraJellybun
      @LyraJellybun 7 месяцев назад +1

      Dragonite is one of my favourites and im honestly shocked it hasn't been touched either!

  • @chaytonsmeets9261
    @chaytonsmeets9261 7 месяцев назад +3

    WoW what a amazing video!

  • @gavinmagness9009
    @gavinmagness9009 7 месяцев назад +2

    "Pokemon Go's OC"
    You get a sub for that alone.

  • @alexander.sebastian
    @alexander.sebastian 7 месяцев назад +2

    Dein Video über 9 Generationen hinweg ist wirklich sehr gut geworden. Vielen vielen dank für dieses super spannende und interessante Video! Ich habe selten so viel Freude beim gucken gehabt. Ich hatte noch spontan die Idee, ob du die Legendären und Mysteriösen Pokémon und ihren jeweiligen einzigartigen Geschichten über die 9 Generationen hinweg erläutern möchtest. Gotta Catch 'Em All ⚾

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 7 месяцев назад +1

      SOME OF US DON'T SPEAK GERMAN! PLEASE TRY TO SPEAK ENGLISH!

  • @FantomMind
    @FantomMind 7 месяцев назад +5

    I've been playing since the beginning. Black and White were amazing! It brought me back into the series.

  • @ZeChainwarden
    @ZeChainwarden 7 месяцев назад +3

    Hahaha pretty crazy to hear that Masuda basically said he felt pressure to make better games because the Merch did not sell OMG it shows so hard nowaydays ...

  • @addisonlippold1852
    @addisonlippold1852 3 месяца назад +1

    first video of yours that I've seen, and I love your art style! very cute :}

  • @randomperson-jh5ys
    @randomperson-jh5ys 25 дней назад +1

    I love your lineless art style. I think its at its best with the hisuian forms. That voltorb and electrode look amazing

  • @nomnom2407
    @nomnom2407 7 месяцев назад +12

    I know this a weird request, but could you perhaps post those small sprites tnat you drew for this video? They look very cool and cute.

    • @nuclear_bonsai
      @nuclear_bonsai 7 месяцев назад +3

      They're all on their Twitter and Tumblr

  • @bilsuart
    @bilsuart 7 месяцев назад +4

    You know it’s gonna be good when it’s a long N0rt video! 🤩

  • @samueldensmore6470
    @samueldensmore6470 23 дня назад +1

    I've had an ongoing spreadsheet tracking this kind of information for years now to predict which pokemon from kanto might get new forms/evolutions with new games so it's funny that I'm stumbling onto this video now, glad other people think about this stuff too haha

  • @zac3249
    @zac3249 6 месяцев назад +2

    I was expecting more comparisons of the sprites between generations from the title, but still a neat video!

  • @santiagoacosta3372
    @santiagoacosta3372 7 месяцев назад +4

    RIP chubby Pikachu, he gotta be my favorite gender

  • @OssaCantavit
    @OssaCantavit 7 месяцев назад +3

    The vector pokémon are so great. This video is a treat for those alone.

  • @MrStart-nh6yi
    @MrStart-nh6yi 7 месяцев назад +1

    Loved your art-style

  • @romeo_rabbit
    @romeo_rabbit 6 месяцев назад +1

    Omg I’ve had temtem on my wish list for soooo long!! This was a great vid and I’m def gonna pick it up if I get some money!!

  • @Noob-ot8rf
    @Noob-ot8rf 7 месяцев назад +4

    sun and moon was my favorite bc of ultra beasts which also made me like paradox pokemon as they has a similar-ish origin… wish they had more customization tho 😭

  • @crazybirdybird4312
    @crazybirdybird4312 7 месяцев назад +5

    2:50 I was around for gen 1 and I have never heard anybody saying that the sprites where better. They had more character yes, but not implying that they were better.
    Also, it was only after gen 3 that people really started complaining on new designs.

    • @mckinneym.2743
      @mckinneym.2743 7 месяцев назад +1

      I think it depends on who you ask, I heard of folks who hated gen 2 when it came out. So I feel it depends

    • @assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756
      @assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756 7 месяцев назад

      ​@mckinneym.2743 maybe crystal squashed that opinion with the "animated" sprites

    • @crazybirdybird4312
      @crazybirdybird4312 7 месяцев назад +2

      @mckinneym.2743 I was around back then, yes there where a few designs that people didn’t like, but there where gen 1 designs that people didn’t like also.
      If they didn’t like generation 2 it was mostly for other things, like being unable to get most of the new Pokémon until late game/post-game, the strange level gaps in the gyms, or female Pokémon having lower stats.
      So you might hear about people like that just because you come across people mocking those people all the time.

    • @jesusramirezromo2037
      @jesusramirezromo2037 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@mckinneym.2743I don't think anyone hates Gen 2 designs, At worst they call them "Bland", Gen 2 is mostly seen as an extension of Gen 1

    • @TWLSpark
      @TWLSpark 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@jesusramirezromo2037 I definitely have seen people hate the designs on gen 2. I personally am not a fan either, but it's definitely because of the uninspired direction they took with most of them - both artistically and mechanically, because boy do gen 2 Pokemon suck in battle (unless you're part of the very exclusive gen 2 cool kids club).

  • @PurelyRo
    @PurelyRo 6 месяцев назад +2

    i grew up playing pokemon platinum, and now i'm on pokemon scarlet, massive jump and it feels the same but even better

  • @camronreynosa4958
    @camronreynosa4958 7 месяцев назад +2

    im soo condlicted seeing the sales of gen 5, bc it was one of the best experiences ive had playing the pokemon series. soo much soo that i bought both black and white then both sequals

  • @Toulippy
    @Toulippy 7 месяцев назад +4

    So, charizard changed its shiny color, pikachu got on a diet and learned its name only to forget it again, snorlax finally stood up, and kadabra finally can have its own tcg cards produced again after like 20 years.
    Oh yeah never forget those banned cards, gotta love moo moo milk.

  • @Joshuaskehan-mk8cj
    @Joshuaskehan-mk8cj 7 месяцев назад +3

    I'm 23, I watched the anime and had a few books and toys when I was very young maybe 5-8 years. Was always into Pokémon but never bought a DS game until 2013.
    I still remember sitting in front of the TV and seeing the Pokémon ad for X and Y come on. I still remember seeing xerneas and yveltal and just feeling amazed, I had to get the game! I went into GameStop after school, got Pokémon X and that was the beginning.
    It feels so weird that that was nearly exactly 10 years ago. Feels like generation 6 was only yesterday. I loved Pokémon X and played it for hours upon hours, late nights sneaking my DS. I didn't use the internet much at the time so trying to catch every Pokémon and learn their locations and how to evolve them was very fun. Then one day I caught a gligar and couldn't figure out how to evolve it as I still had a book and saw gligar evolved into gliscor and I just had to have it.
    I went online and found out how then saw that there was a very active community and video tutorials of how to get certain Pokémon and items. Soon after I got into battling online on Pokémon showdown and the rest is history.
    I know a lot of people hate on gen 6 but it was my first generation and sparked my love for Pokémon. I bought omega ruby and alpha sapphire on the 3Ds along with Pokémon black 2 and finally Pokémon sun. I haven't played a Pokémon game since but I still watch videos every day and I'm more interested in battling than the actual games themselves. I'm thinking of buying a switch and getting Pokémon scarlet though to get back into just fun casual games.
    To think if it wasn't for that ad on the TV I might never have gotten into Pokémon.

    • @Glaceon_Guy
      @Glaceon_Guy 2 месяца назад

      Damn, you just recounted the same magic I felt. I'm 32 now and remember growing up on the merch and original games from 4-5 years of age, waaayyyy back when Pokémon was a brand new thing. I had the First Edition cards and everything, the movie toys and whatnot, even saw the first movie in theaters.
      Fast forward to when I was 12, Ruby and Sapphire released, and that shit blew my mind. Went into Walmart one Saturday and bought both games, and that was pretty much formative to most of the friendship interactions I had back then. I was that Pokémon-obsessed kid, and everyone knew it. I had the Beckett magazines and submitted drawings too.
      I stopped playing after beating FireRed. I was reaching an age where I was just entering high school, and while my Pokémon obsession was at its peak, it was "uncool" to all the kids who were just coming of age, so my friends didn't play it anymore, and I was forced to adapt if I wanted a social life. That meant Xbox, Halo, Call of Duty and late nights up with the homies playing online. It was a fine period of life, I guess, but I wasn't *really* happy, you know? Something was missing.
      But then I turned 30 some 15 years later and found myself questioning if I did the right thing by leaving Pokémon behind and "growing up" as it were. I wound up buying a Switch and picked up Shield, and... I know SwSh may have been disappointing to everyone who's been playing every gen that I missed, but at least to a returning fan, it was brilliant. I went on to grab Legends Arceus and then Scarlet when that dropped. I mostly play UNITE these days.
      I've since hooked myself back into my old obsession, drawings included, which actually led to starting a side business making art for people. I guess I have Pokémon to thank for that. I don't think I'll ever sideline this obsession again; I'm too old for it now and both my wife and I are too happy with it -- straight-up, we watch the anime together on a bed covered in Eeveelution plushies, TV surrounded by Glaceon paraphernalia and the like. In too deep now, man.
      Never give that up.

  • @Minimaos1
    @Minimaos1 7 месяцев назад +1

    This was great. I watched more for the history line then from the title x)

  • @lawden210
    @lawden210 7 месяцев назад +2

    The "Little baby me" illustrations were cute!

  • @leafyyy7365
    @leafyyy7365 6 месяцев назад +3

    Soul Silver has always been my favorite game, its the first one I had ever played, and recently replaying it has shown me it wasn't just rose tinted lenses. The scenery, the progression, just all have felt amazing. And being able to jump back to Kanto is very fun as well, having a second entire region and second roster of gym leaders was very fun. I remember beating the Elite 4 and Champion and being absolutely dumbfounded that there was so much more to go do.
    B&W always will have a special place in my heart. I would have definitely been disappointed in the lack of older pokemon if I was more invested when I first played Gen5, but even now it just feels very refreshing to have a region with its own exclusive pokemon, and so much less of what I've already seen. Will I miss grabbing Leafeon and Glaceon on my next B&W playthrough? Yeah, definitely. But The designs they came up with were iconic, and I will always treasure them, and for that the entire gen5 aesthetic

    • @steampunk-llama
      @steampunk-llama 4 месяца назад +1

      Change it to Heart Gold and I had the exact same experience as you holy shit

  • @kalosianporygon
    @kalosianporygon 7 месяцев назад +4

    One thing I like about Pokémon is that they don't have simple recolors as distinct creatures. There are deliberately similar Pokémon like the Forces of Nature, the elemental monkeys, or Plusle and Minun, they do have design differences as well.

    • @NecromancyForKids
      @NecromancyForKids 3 месяца назад

      The base genie designs are all a bit too similar, but other than that yeah

  • @GeorgeX_Nazariego
    @GeorgeX_Nazariego 4 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video, but I wanted to mention that I really enjoyed the music all along 🎶

  • @thelytz9806
    @thelytz9806 7 месяцев назад +2

    Tbf when people refer to the “sprites being better back then” they usually refer to the gen 5 sprites, which were actually really great

  • @juanrodriguez9971
    @juanrodriguez9971 7 месяцев назад +4

    I havent finished the video (barely started) and I don't know how many are talking about your original project based on science topics but i wanted to say it sounds excellent, reminds me of one time I wanted shitpost about the theme of a new starter trio and ended up meeting people finding it interesting, it was about the starter trio being medicine themed, it was like this:
    - Herbology, making a grass/psychic type which is the old type of medicine focused on the use of plants to heal both the body and the mind.
    - A modern surgeon, making a water/steel type with a great focus on surgery tools.
    - Homeopathy, get the cure from what causes the pain, fire vs fire, making for an excellent fire/fighting type focused onsymulating the style of the opponent which defeated an ally.
    Yeah, the whole joke was having an excuse to add yet another fire/fighting type and accidentally took it seriously.

  • @crumpetsancheese2197
    @crumpetsancheese2197 7 месяцев назад +4

    babe wake up 41 minute nortist video dropped

  • @jeremypierreakajproject6750
    @jeremypierreakajproject6750 7 месяцев назад +2

    Love this video 💯 🙏

  • @e2011ugdia
    @e2011ugdia 7 месяцев назад +2

    Pikachu went from beeg to slim to *B E E G E R*