Vocal Coach/Opera Singer FIRST TIME REACTION & ANALYSIS "Phantom of the Opera" TARJA with Nightwish
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2020
- My journey with Nightwish did not begin at the beginning, as many journeys should. Instead, it began by reacting to and analyzing Floor Jansen, Nightwish’s current lead singer. So in this video, we're going back to the beginning to learn where Nightwish came from, and listening to their original and legendary female lead singer, Tarja Turunen.
Join professional opera singer Elizabeth Zharoff, as she listens to Nightwish and to this arrangement of The Phantom of the Opera that was created by the band's leading member, Tuomas. It also features Marco Hietala on male vocals. (!!!!)
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Performed by Nightwish, with Tarja Turunen and Marco Hietala - Based on The Phantom of the Opera, by Andrew Lloyd Webber - Arranged by Tuomas Holopainen
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The video shown is from a live performance in 2002.
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Elizabeth Zharoff is an international opera singer and voice coach, with 3 degrees in voice, opera, and music production. She's performed in 18 languages throughout major venues in Europe, America, and Asia. Currently based somewhere between Los Angeles and Tucson, Arizona, Elizabeth spends her days researching voice, singing, teaching, writing music, and recording TONS. She also plays Diablo and Dungeons & Dragons.
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Thanks Charismatic Voice. Now I have inspiration to make popular musicals and metal em up.
I personally believe Les Miserables would be perfect for metal.
I definitely agree with the idea of metal-ing up musicals. And I do agree with Mr. Darnall about how good candidate Les mis would be. I can think of a few from that play I would like to see what could be done with. But what I really want to know is if after making this video. Did you go back and listen to it 157 times like I did? LoL.
This is also Marco : ruclips.net/video/HFXcvqgWkHw/видео.html
Have you reviewed Manowar?
Some more info on Marko, this is after he had a botched surgery that messed up is voice and vocal chords, he had to completely relearn to sing and what not
Every vocal coach comes to Phantom to hear Tarja, but walks away marvelling about Marco…..
11:38
Don’t forget the version with Floor… damn.
@@m0o0oeh. Floor is my favourite Nightwish singer, by far. But, on this version of the song, Tarja and Marco are unbeatable. Hank is no Marco…..
Pahaha, that is so true
But the song belongs to the them both.
who is better Tarja or Floor?
Me: Marko.
Marko truly is amazing and he makes everything look easy!
that begs the question: why not make him the lead?...anyone suggesting that..i think not
That is why the new album is for all the singers in the band according to Tuomas. "Endlessness" is so Marco, I love it.
@@metalhead4624 he leads in Tarrot.
That’s what I always say plus it avoids the tarja , Annette, floor argument
Marco is probably the best Phantom you will find, no matter the genre. His growls are PERFECT for a character that is, actually, broken
I am a die hard nightwish fan but the 4 phantoms that sang with Nicole Scherzinger were amazing
He's amazing for it. I love Jonathan Young's take on it too. He does have that perfect "villain" voice, and he took it to a whole new level when he did Phantom of the Opera.
Me when I lie.
@@raeyth_ The problem is the voice being perfect. The Phantom is broken, damaged, his voice should show that. Perfectly trained beautiful voice does not fit the character. Broken grunty voice, on the way other hand, fits like a glove
Marco is insane in this metal version... But for me Ramin Karimloo is perfect as Phantom.
This is my neighbour's favorite song whether he likes it or not
hahahahaha
My neighbours ALWAYS listen good music...want they or NOT! :D
funny you should say that, i was listening to it at 2am and my neighbour loved it that much he threw a brick through my window so he could hear it better
Best comment I have ever read . . .
😂🤣👍
Marko beats all the other phantoms with the creepiness😆
And he's such a cute, goofy guy ;-)
Suggestion: ruclips.net/video/xKwQKqQ8MMY/видео.html Male voices - Northern Kings
Agreed, that grit in his voice really serves the hideous side of the Phantom real well.
Thanx, bro :)
with this exceptionally creepy stare :D
This is one of those songs where the live version absolutely blows the studio version away
I don't know, i still love studio version for it's "cleanliness". Wouldn't chose which one is best.
@@Fedorchik1536 I love it too, but the Live performance is just amazing, especially the ending of the song.
@@ZombieJesus1987 The live version feels somewhat heavier than the record. More metal if you will.
I agree. I recently bought the Century Child album that has this song on it. Beforehand, I'd only ever heard the live version of this song. I was disappointed in the studio version. Something was lacking in the back and forth between them and the ending was lackluster as compared to the climactic, absolutely amazing ending in the live version (which is my favorite part).
@@76erinmp There's just so much more emotion when they played it live.
Knowing that this was basically the end of Nightwish with Tarja still brings tears and goosebumps.
Truly the 'End of an Era'.
Yeah, Nightwish has ended for me then, never could get into any of their stuff after that - magic was well and truly gone :-) Still listen to old albums with Tarja though
@@alexmashkin863 I love all of it. I just can't hate anything they put out. I just love them no matter what.
@@iforgotwhatiwasdoinI don’t hate them I just can’t get into anything they have put out since Tarja.
@@angelbedolla347 Yup same here. I absolutely love Floor but when Tarja left the group lost that feeling of magic and power, and still it didn't sound like other power metal bands where they sound too "gamey" or like too much fantasy. Old nightwish was its own genre.
Why did she leave?
Tarja is one of the reasons why Nightwish got soooo popular, because metlal with operatic singing had never been done before and Tarja was just amazing, I saw theyir end of an era tour and my mouth was open when I heard Tarja singing "wishmaster" ut Floor is also EQUALLY good, but Floor didnt want to copy tTarja, Tarja is opera singer but Floor has just different style of singing but both ladies are just amazing
you should listen to tristania but just the 1st 3 albums
And therion?
Therion Haggard? If you ask me Nightwish is like sellout Metallica...
The floor is not EQUALLY good at all !!!! Can Floor sing soprano??? No, she can not. Period!
@@AtillaMayhem So how is Nightwish "sellout"?
Come for Tarja, but impressed by Marco.
It's marko with K you idiot
Sorry i know
Did you just talk to yourself?
Shut up
Marco was actually the one who touched me more
Tarja is a trained classical singer, and that is one of the biggest reason Nightwish was even born back in the day. They made the band around that kind of sound. Later they changed their style a bit, especially after Tarja left. I miss her :)
Yep. Nightwish was supposed to be an acoustic band at first, but Tarja's voice was so powerful they made it a metal band to support her singing.
I also really miss her, she made such a good team with marko, also their voices mixed very well together.
She defined not just Nightwish the band but the entire freaking genre. Their initial cover of Gary Moore dropped like a bomb in a skirmish between trash metal bands, aging heavy rock singers, and silly pop princesses. (With apologies to Kate Bush and other divine beings I know I insulted with that. But they were the exceptions in that landscape.)
@@yksvaan1690 To be fair with Within temptation that came up about same time though :) And this joint work is so good :) ruclips.net/video/Dy6MpsDPKts/видео.html
@@hansolo2121 LOL.
Congrats, you've discovered the very best duet of the phantom of the opera and one of the top bests singers in metal symphonic genre rs
I dont think its considered the fact Marco is not only an incredible vocalist, but he's also playing bass at the same time. Simply mind blowing!
She didn't had a Floorgasm or a Tarjagasm. She had a Marcogasm.
Thank you that you noticed his singing talent. The most reactions are only about Floor's or Tarja's voice.
"But Marco" my favorite phrase during this video.
Gotta love people appreciating him and his voice because he truly kills it
You think he compares to Devin Townsend?
In all fairness, Tuomas wanted Nightwish to play easy listening music, but because Tarja's voice is so dramatic (I LOVE Tarja's voice), they switched to symphonic metal. One more reason to love Tarja.
Nightwish was originally supposed to be a folk band
Yes! You wrote it perfectly
you can hear it in their first album. But Tarja was too strong!@@Arnorian
I only listen to Nightwish with Tarja. Nothing against the other singers, but she's really the main reason I started listening to them.
"But Marco, he's killing it, he's so good"
Yes indeed.
"Is there such thing as 'Metal Musical'?"
Yes, kinda. It's called Symphonic Metal. Nightwish is pretty much the most iconic band of this genre.
There is also Avantasia's first album "The Metal Opera", though singing not quite operatic, whole album is made like opera.
And savatage "Streets- a rock opera", not to mention TSO, king diamond, blind guardians "night in middle earth", Haggard (only likes the one with Galilleo) and so many others...
Savatage has entered the chat.
@@ferox965 and TSO.
Dream Theater made a metal musical album called the Astonishing iirc
They were a miracle. That Nightwish Era did what 99.99% of people couldn't imagine - opera and metal together in a magical, inspirational and pure joyful way. I still loved Nightwish after, and it's great with Floor especially, but those years were a music phenomenon.
Yesss, Marko absolutely slays! He's the best version of the Phantom without doubt for me. I'm so sad that he left Nightwish... The band has endured the change of the main female singer twice but Marko is irreplaceable.
He did feel core and I do miss him but I wish him the best to
His single stuff is great and he still tours, so that’s good
Idk if you know but they recently performed this track together for the first time in 18 years it’s amazing still and great to see them together but you can tell his vocals have deteriorated which is to be expected being a heavy metal singer and pushing 60. Still I strive to grow my beard out like his 😂 being a metal head I started growing out my hair in middle school and unfortunately started losing hair at 18 which I mitigate with special shampoo and rogaine which I also use on my beard which helps. I can’t wait until I’ll I can braid my beard. I accept I’ll lose most of my head hair eventually but atleast i have facial hair
asmongold
"Tarja definitely has more of an operatic voice, she doesn't need a microphone... B U T M A R C O" loved that :)))))
So true. Tarja was exceptional as expected "but Marco!" ... stole the show with the surprise factor ;)
Somehow, Tarja "only has" operatic voice...
Years ago, I was a regular at the Opera and heard many singers with a similar voice... For those who are not used to opera, Tarja seems exceptional... but part of it is because they are not used to hear that kind of voice.
She still has a great voice range. But I got to hear her after the split... and it was somehow lacking much in comparison to Nightwish.
@@vapulabe Cool story bro. You and I are not professionally trained opera singers, so we're in no position to say if Tarja is exceptional or not :))) you like her voice or you don't, it's a matter of preference.
BUT MARCO.
Tarja does need a microphone. Just after NW let her go, she was performing at Savonlinna music hall. It was an acoustic gig and the venue is small but the last rows couldn’t hear a thing.
I'm starting to think that everyone who recommends this version to voice coaches, just want to hear what they will say about Marco. 😄😄
I clicked for that reason
She is a sold Marko fangirl and it makes me so happy.
I'm here for that actually 🤣
Nightwish is from Kitee Finland. Formed in 1996. (She was saying kittos to the crowd. Thank you in Finnish. A small village on the lake shore near the Eastern border with Russia. Tuomas, Emppu and Tarja formed the band. Jakku and Sammi ( ex bassist) joined later.
Tuomas is a year older then Tarja. His mother was Tarja's teacher. Heck she was the only piano teacher in the village.
The two knew each other in Highschool.
Marko has classical training himself and sang with his brothers in a band called Taro before Nightwish (2001 -2021).
The idea was for a folk rock band. But Tarja's powerful voice moved him to pursue metal. Finland loves metal. They produced 5 albums up to ONCE in 2004. With Tarja as lead singer. This footage was fimed for the DVD. It was ONCE that shot them to world wide fame.
It was filmed the last night of the ONCE upon a Tour. Hartwell Arena, Helsinki Finland. 11, 500 in attendance. October 21, 2005. It turned out to be her last night with the band. In fact she was singing through a head cold & throat infection that kept her from singing at the sound check.
The concert was epic. She has 5 costumes that night. That one was the first. The red one next. The black with shoulder straps and a yellow skirt. The gown for sleeping sun, and a flowing
White number for the end of the night. Something I am sure you'll appreciate as to the time and effort. And colour matching her microphone to the outfits is her signature.
There was a festival (Flatlanders) filmed in The Netherlands (August 2005) where she was not sick, but being open air you don't get the costumes or effects. Anyway after her dismissal in a way everyone now regrets and has apologized to her for, this became known as End of an Era. They have buried the hatchet. They are on talking terms now. Just this year Tarja re recorded Dark Chest of Wonders for Crewwish. The crew behind the band who put on a show with the equipment and it was arranged in both senses by Tuomas. A reunion is not imminent but hey 2025 would be the anniversarry and a limited tour with Tarja & Marko as guests would sell like gang busters.
Marko reached out to Tarja first and sang with her at a Christmas concert where they were guests in 2012. Hugging and crying backstage were reported. And after her version in Finnish of Ave Maria they were hugging on stage. Marko keeping his hand on her shoulder.
Since that time he was a guest on stage at a German festival. The band has married, lost parents etc and they have made peace as I said.
Tarja and Floor were friends whilst Tarja was still in Nightwish. That hasn't changed. Floor got her blessing to join Nightwish after Anette had to leave tour as she went into labour over Christmas in the USA. Floor brought in as a temp but is now a full member. No impediments but time and will to a reunion.
Tarja went solo in 2007. She now has 9 albums, 6 specials, 3 DVDs, a side project called Outlanders ( electronic music) with world famous musicians. A best.of:Living the Dream dropped a month ago. Dec, 02, 22. So much music to discover. But to see what she can really do with a high note. 2016, Woodstock Poland ( no relation) and a cover of Muse, Supremacy. It will knock your socks off. She has only grown in the last 17 years. Happy New Year
You may not believe me but my grandmother used to live in Kitee and actually knows Tuomas' mother. They are still friends. I think she has seen Tuomas also. It's so crazy to think that I have some kind of connection to this legendary band who is arguably the most globally known Finnish band ever. Kiitos for reading :D
Great comment! Thanks for the very informative summary!
Tarja is one of the main reasons why Nightwish became popular, because of his operatic singing. Love it!
You should definitely listen to Marko singing High Hopes
Indeed
OOOHHHHH great suggestion. Forgot about this cover for a while. Gonna listen to it right away. That cover got me into Marco.
Oh, please do, that is the best cover ever!
Man, i miss tarja in nightwish, still even after 15 years!!!
she;s the reason i listened to them.
but to be fair lately i watched a video with floor of the song the greatest show on earth.....and i really enjoyed that as well.
Tarja all the way! Not a slight to Floor at all. she is a very talented singer.... just Tarja..... all the way.
I can never adjust to Tarja’s sound, as a Dutchie who is more aware of both later nightwish and Floor’s previous bands. That said I can acknowledge how impressive Tarja is. Technically she’s obviously one of the best, her sound is just not my thing.
What I’ve noticed (since you’d probably be wondering why I’m in the comment section of a ‘Tarja’ song) is that Marco is the one that gets the most ‘wtf’ response when it comes to this performance.
Yes Tarja is a great (technically very impressive) singer (and I give her props, she’s just my not gig), but Marco steals the show here.
So who wins in a poll of all of Nightwish’s singers? I guess it’s Marco ;)
That (jokingly) said, all infighting is not very productive. Preference is preference and it’s does not have to take away from capabilities of singers and artists in the genre
@@Shireen1986 yeah, I think because I originally listened to the band with Tarja.. pretty common with other bands and vocalists... people don't like change.
I like Floor, she is a great, she sings with different voices during the songs which is cool and bautiful cause u never know what she is going to do...but i prefer Tarja too she is the heart of nightwish, Tarja is the angel that sings its stories while Tuomas is the poet that writes the story... Tarja is sometimes an angel, a ghost, a mistress, a banshee, a siren, a messenger... she gives the band the haunting atmosphere, melodical operatic singing is what made me love this band... the best of both worlds, epic and haunting, sad and beautiful... Tarja is the best by far, miss her too...
Nightwish’s Phantom of the Opera is the best version of that song.
Change my mind.
Sarah Brightman and Antonio Banderas's live performance is bloody amazing. Yet, my money's still on Marco
love this version, but Ramin Karimloo and Sierra Boggess are not topable ;)
I agree. Nightwish’s rendition is my #1 fave. Jonathan Young’s rendition with Malinda is my #2 fave. 🥰
10:45 Love it when Elizabeth pulls her hands away from the keyboard when Marco screams: "ALLRIGHT !". As if she's scared he's gonna bite her finger off
Who is that?
Marco is truly a character, watch him and Floor talking about aliens on her new podcast.
What is the name of the podcast?
@@josephgoulet8981 "Floor Finds" it's really entertaining. She has a couple of RUclips channels now.
ruclips.net/video/H2SZUWGP-gg/видео.html
Richard Goddard Awesome! Thanks!
Loved it!
Really awesome indeed!
I would be curious to listen to your analysis to "The Islander" live in Tampere. In my opinion this is Marco's most unique performance.
So you're one of the weasels too? Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!
This
totally agree, one of my favorite performances to hear
@@marcopatro 😂
Marco is also the lead vocalist for a band called Tarot. Bonus: If you search for him you'll find a video of him singing to Nightwish's former dummers' baby, which is beautiful.
Marko and Tarja my favourite Phantom and Christina duo. Andrew Lloyd Webber said they are his favourite non stage version. Both of them classically trained. Turning it to metal was something that Tarja either created or helped create in the earliest years of the oughts.
"Is there such thing as 'Metal Musical'?"
Yes. Tobias Sammet, vocalist of the German Power Metal band Edguy, has created a project called "Avantasia".
Does any of Arjen's albums fill the criteria?
Also Waltari did "Yeah Yeah, Die Die" back on 1996, that you could call a metal musical. Another act they created for the opera, was "Evankeliumi" in -99. I'm not sure, is it available in any format, really do hope to find it some day. 'cos it was worth every penny, and then some
@@wolverine669 Had to come add link to that Yeah yeah if someone is interested :) ruclips.net/video/5CWC8ic3Puc/видео.html
wasn't there also Aina who made a metal opera?
Ayreon.
Marko's cover of High Hopes is a must listen to
You should give their Pink floyd cover High Hopes a listen, Marco is amazing there
Yes, please do this! Not many reactions so far, and it is so good!
100% Marco is great and that cover is great
I love your face when you hear Marco!!!! That's what we're all REALLY here for! Tarja kills it, but Marco MAKES it!!! Marco totally gave you the stank face!!!
This version is the BEST and ONLY live performance that I LOVE way more than the recorded version.
This performance gives me goodbumps every time I hear it.
Tarja's Planet Hell live performance is pretty good too
I've watched this performance so many times and i still get goosebumps every time they sing together
My new hobby is collecting these reaction videos just so I have an excuse for listening to this again and again.
Haha samesies
13:23
Is the first time i see someone literally having an eargasm.
Damn...you saw that too lol
No
1:33 other orgasm, the girl in the crowd
haha nice catch
She has one with Cory Taylor's snuff
You must know that Tuomas+Emppu+Tarja founded Nightwish. Up to this very concert they took all steps from a school band up to global leader of this genre. They created practically the whole concept already when doing this. Later came the substitutes for some of the members in this foundation line-up. This is just the best live of this song.
Tarja is actually classically trained in opera. it is what drew me to nightwish so unfortunately I have not really been into their music since. "Sleeping Sun" is the song that got me originally into them. I was lucky enough to have seen Nightwish with Tarja live when I was young. So awesome ;.;
A "Misheard Lyrics" video of "Wishmaster" was what got me interested in Nightwish, and I'm so glad I happened upon it!
The whole atmosphere here is just amazing. Yes Tarja is doing her thing & fantastically...But for me, Marko steals the show & takes the heat to another level. He's a natural born entertainer, in every sense. Beautiful reaction and brilliant analysis as always lass:)
you mean he tried to steal the show with his caterwalling
I love how everyone comes to the phantom for Tarja (who is amazing), but gets dazzled by Marco, who totally owns this song... God I love Marco!!
Marko is just great, i like his work at Tarot, they are the true godfathers of the Finnish metal.
You can tell they're a vocal coach when they get giddy over Marco's singing lol
Marco pretty much is the reason I was sold on Nightwish back in 2005. I heard him sing on I wish I had an angel and at first was so surprised by his voice it literally made me laugh out loud, but then it drew me in.
Elizabeth! I'm hoping you would react to Nightwish "Islander", Tampere 2015, because Marko is using his mellow, clear, soft tones. And his interaction with the audience is so nice to watch. With a twist of humor.
The song is composed by Marko himself. Tuomas had heard him playing and singing it in a dressing room, and Tuomas wanted it to be a Nightwish song, and he wanted to write new lyrics to it, and he did. For once a simple story from Tuomas, no need to read between the lines. And those are Tuomas' words, not mine.
By the way, I learned from some Nightwish fans that at some point Marko went thru a throat surgery, but it didn't go as planned. So he had to work hard to try and restore his voice again.
I love the live version of The Islander as it's great to watch him interact with the crowd but I feel the music video offers a deeper insight into the story that it is telling and makes it more powerful than just the live performance.
One of the best comments I have ever seen from an Islander reaction is that Marko should get a T-shirt that says "i am so good, Floor Jansen is my back-up singer!"
Luckily Marco got his voice back, loosing only his falsetto. It was 1996 ( not 99 as I remembered).
Love the islander live, Marco's tone is so good in that piece!
@@aku313rl I was wondering when it happened, I thought it must have been a long time ago. If it was in 1999, that was before Marko joined Nightwish in 2001. Kiva kun kerroit!
In my opinion this is the most genuine version of this song. Their voices and styles are so contrary that they reflect the contrarity of christine and the phantom more than I heard it anywhere else, yet so harmonizing and powerful. Also Marco's melody-line is different than others do it. Most go down when they sing together, while he goes up the first time. This adds more emotion to it. I love Floor and she nails every song by her versatile skills. Especially Ghost Love Score has come to a new level. But there are some songs, that need this contrast of this continous operatic style that Tarja sings.
I’d pay big money to see the whole play in this kind of arrangement and with Tarja and Marco.
You obviously never heard Sierra Bogges
@@WABP860 probably you're referring to a specific performance, cause it's not as obvious to me yet as you might think.
First of all: it's not about the female part alone. So this is not about who is the better singer.
The versions I heard with Sierra so far were not that special...
She sings great, then he sings great, then they sing together... "great" of course.... And the music plays on.....
But there is no tension... No connection between the intonation of the sung melody and the meaning of it's words. Especially in the beginning. Sierra sings the line beautifully of course... But not genuinely as she would mean it. I don't believe her that "the phantom of the opera is here.... Inside my mind". And even if it was in Sierra's mind: it doesn't seem to bother her.
Just by the way she sings it Tarja also shows that she isn't comfortable with him haunting her mind.
Sierra is a great singer without a doubt, but that is not what I was referring to.
A big part have also the male voice and the music, which are simply boring in most common performances.
@@lexluthorpm I think you can safely spend that money elsewhere. To paraphrase Taylor Swift: "They are never ever, ever getting back together!".
Taylor Swift can not even be the nail of Tarja 😂
Only two words come to mind after hearing that..... blown away
How is no one suggesting Nightwish's "Nemo" to really hear Tarja's lovely voice?
Nemo was what brought me to Nightwish! Islander is my fav tho :)
Well, I don't understand why you would chose Phantom of the Opera to listen to Tarja's singing voice when it's clearly not the focus of the song. If you wanted to listen to someone's singing voice, you wouldn't listen to them singing in a choir either.
Like as many others Nightwish for me is with Tarja. Listened to a few songs with Floor and like her too depending on the song, but all Nightwish songs I own are from before Nightwish and Tarja went their separate ways.
Nemo is such a great song
@@natewilliams6617 nemo??? You mean the fish???
Well, on the official videoshe sounds great. Live, not so much. Her timing was often off. IMO.
Definitely head voice for Marco, he lost his falsetto register after surgery back in the 90's. I love the fact that, from all the vocal coach reaction videos, you are the only one noticing his insane range and vocal skills! Love your videos!
Probably because she's the one with the most experiencie and knowledge. Her knowledge about music in general is amazing. I learned so many things with her...
@@AllanRoberto2711 damn, wish I could take lessons with her, but I’m nowhere near set up for or comfortable with doing things remote/online (also my spoken English is so much worse than my written English)…
You are both wrong, it's mixed.
I believe Marko did get a "Shookeeth" from Maggie when she reacted to this.
Actually Marco has his falsetto he just can’t do a clean falsetto
For more Marco singing I would recommend the "Islander" from the 2015 Tampere open Air Concert, or Nightwish cover of Pink Floyds "High Hopes" from the same concert as this was taken from (the End of an Era DVD 2005).
While Your Lips are Still Red is another good one.
Yaaaassssss to both!
I recently found my dvd and button from that concert. I almost drowned in feels watching that back.
Near the end, when Tarja & Marko where going back and forth, back and forth and sometimes at the same time, I kept expecting huge chunks of the ceiling crashing to the ground around them.
After listening Tarja for the last 25 years, I can say that she has this amaisin ability to wrap her voice around the every singer voice that she makes a duet with.
Tarja was trained to be a Soprano singer. She went to the Sibelius Academy in Helsinki where she learn classical and opera music. Some of the alumni are the original members of Apocalyptica, the lead guitarist of Stratovarius and the bassist of HIM.
That's right ;)
Alumni?
@@Johannicus alumni means ex-students who graduated from the school.
@@hashslingingslasher2032 Thanks for the explanation.
And, you know, most of Nightiwish.
You get lots of props for telling the truth about the difference between the two singers. Floor and Tarja, while giving respect to both. I'll leave it at that.
I love how she takes her time analyzing the voices, goes back three times or more if it's needed; instead of rushing the video and give a superficial opinion.
This arrangement and intensity is evil genius....!!
Love the reaction and analysis! While you are on this symph metal kick, you HAVE to react to "Epica - Sancta Terra (feat Floor Jansen) Live Retrospect show". Two powerhouse women with a live orchestra & choir behind the band. It's magnificent!
Definitely man, this version is amazing!
@@geescar Absolutely YES!
Indeed, Marko is really talented. Check him sing The Islander at Tampere.
Was about to say that.
Tarja in "Walking in the Air" shows clearly your voice and your cspacity for classic singing.
Tarja Turunen is the only Singer Nightwish has ever had that gave me chills........Tarja forever!
Yep, I've never been able to listen to them with the other two. They just have more regular singing voices and techniques, not saying they are not skilled, especially Floor, but it is just not the same vibe and experience. Also, I feel their newer songs also reflect that and incorporate less of the mysterious vibes they had back then. Tarja's Nightwish = art, newer Nightwish = mainstreamness.
@@andmoreagain7 floor sing ghost love score better then tarja , wacken 2013 best concert ever , without tarja .
@@fredverkerk838 ok. You probably favor her because she is Dutch ahahaha but we obviously have different tastes. Nothing wrong with that. I disagree and really do not like Floor's interpretation.
I'm so glad you focused on Marco. The dude has such a great and powerful voice and gets overlooked often due to the amazing women vocalists he's surrounded with all the time.
Finally someone who gives Marco the credit he deserves! The guy is awesome. To me, Nightwish has two lead singers, Marco's voice is just beautiful
My favourite thing is how you picked up on Marko's creepiness which for me was always how I envisioned a "phantom"... I love this version
I love Tarja, but she and Marco together are what make this my favorite version. I really liked your analysis.
Whenever anyone asks who sings better, Floor or Tarja. I always say Marco.
look at who he has had as backup singers!(~_^)
@@jpsother1183 I know. They're not your typical ragged lot of losers. 😂
I say Annette because of the inevitable apoplectic reaction from both sides...
@@Dust210 and then they say Annette sucks. Oh so because she's not a soprano or opera singer then she is a bad singer.... people suck
@@jackskellington9570 Anette is a soprano. She just gets very low too.
That giggle when Marko started singing. :-D
The physiological reaction I had to Marcos singing was quite strong.
Totally iconic and a revelation at the time. This is the number where so many people saw Tarja's sheer presence and fell in love and saw in Marco what Thomas must have seen to recruit him.
Came for Tarja, stayed for Marco. I know that feeling.
For me, Nightwish is Tarja. Once is an untouchable album for Nightwish. She is whom I heard first and I will always listen to.
I respect that opinion and I was like that for a bit right when she left, but "While your lips are still red" sung predominantly by Marko made me change my mind. Nightwish, more than the members themselves, are the energy they create. The sounds and feelings that they seek to generate with performances make the essence of the group. Sort of how many ingredients can make a cake
@@hansolo2121 OK so I'll give new Nightwish a go. TBF I've barely listened, I guess I didn't give Floor a fair shot. However, in my defence, while Tarja is limited, I really liked her for what she was.
Tarja voice sparks the fame for nightwish. In other words, her voice start it all. Floor just receive the baton from annete, which annete received from tarja.
I love oceanborn.
@@akidazami I agree that Tarja's voice really started it all and that her voice and the band's music put Nightwish on the map. Anette received the baton from Tarja, she was a fine vocalist... but ultimately not the one for Nightwish. Here's where I respectfully disagree, Floor Jansen is currently the perfect singer for Nightwish. She isn't as operatic as Tarja, but she is just as skilled and way more versatile. I love her voice and she's an amazing vocalist. Both Floor and Tarja are perfect for Nightwish.
Same, she was really unique and help made Nightwish. The other singers are great, do nto get me wrong, but they do not sound as unique.
marco is unbelievable. unfortunately he left night during the pandemics
Came for Tarja, stayed for Marko. Unbelievable!
It's a shame he and Jukka N had such issues to deal with.
But, we don't curse the sunset for ending...we thank it for the time it gave us to love it.
@@stimpsonjcat67 Damn that’s a really beautiful way to put it
I love Marko's singing especially in Phantom of the Opera and While Your Lips Are Still Red.
Marco is such a beast. He has such and interesting and distinct voice that you don't think would work alongside a female voice but he can make it work with everyone he sings with. It's quite remarkable.
As many reaction as I've seen from vocal coaches to Nightwish, they are always pleasantly surprised, when they hear Marco for the first time. He's like an uncut gem for them.
Seeing you laughing at just how ridiculously good their perfomance was is just amazing. I have no professional knowledge about vocal coaching but STILL I feel the same. I understand you very well.
Another great Nightwish song with awesome Marco vocals is Wish I Had an Angel.
I love both Tarja and Floor. I don’t really like how everyone seems to be all about Floor and have forgotten about Tarja- because it was she who made Nightwish the popular band they are.
And she has an amazing voice with so much depth and colour. It’s quite a dark colour, which is lovely and goes with metal well. I’d say that she’s not as versatile as Floor, ad Floor often plays up the contrast between the lightness of her voice and the music, which works wonderfully. Of course, Floor doesn’t have the sheer power of Tarja.
So basically, two very lovely leading ladies, with very different, but both wonderful voices. I love them equally.
actually, Floor does not show her much better potential on most Tarja-era songs ... and Tarja is Tarja..what can one say
I've never gotten into Tarja-era Nightwish, and I mostly blame Tarja. It always felt to me like she only has "full drama opera" mode, while I like some variation. And her timing always felt like she is too much behind the beat most of the time.
@@pvdaele Full drama opera mode aside i feel Tuomas matched the compositions to her voice extremely well and because of that their older music seemed to have much more power behind it.
@@goatie8405 Even if the composition helped bringing out her strengths, my regret is that there was not enough variation in register for my taste. I like being taken in directions that I I didn't expect at first. And Tarja just didn't do that.
"Floor doesn't have the sheer power of Tarja" excuse me? What the hell did you just say??? Floor definitely has a more powerful voice than Tarja. Tarja wishes she could belt as high and powerful as Floor.
You need the Greatest Show on Earth in your life.... Definately a video you should watch!
Nightwish - Greatest Show on Earth - Live at Tampere
Tarja es increiblemente increible. A love you.❤❤❤❤❤
Marco slays this song! The pipes on that man is insane.
3:12 That little laugh when Marco starts singing! hahahaha so cute!
If I'm not mistaken, there is a video out there of Tarja and Floor singing Over The Hills and Far Away together.
"But Marco--" 🤣 Exactly. 🖤
Yeah there is. There's interactions between them with Floor telling the techs to turn her mic down and Tarja telling them to turn it up XD
Yes from Metal Female Voices fest in Wieze (Belguim) . I was there!
@@shannenmartele5131 Right, there are several versions up from different angles with different sound quality. However this one is pretty decent, even it was recorded from the audience:
ruclips.net/video/57WsNYItbSU/видео.html
@@mangalover0149 this is incredibly silly and incorrect. They wanted the return audio up and down, as in, the sound in their ears, because they couldn't hear each other. Duh.
Tarja is the goodness. The best of the best
Love it all, but your reaction at 10:46 to the final "all right!" is absolutely, totally priceless.
Thank you! I agree that Marko absolutely kills it on this one. INSAAAANE
The growl Marco adds to his role is very much in character... He is the monster in her mind after all, a little growl adds flavor to this song and fits really well to the overall feel of the piece. Marco is incredible and "Islander" live at Tampere would showcase him more...
Phantom of the Metal Opera is yesssssss. Marko was amazing and captured the insane vibe of the Phantom, and Tarja was this wonderfully dark angelic siren. They played off each other so well and it was like they were feeding off each other as he drags her down to his level. So glorious. Makes my brain shiver happily.
Tarja Turunen (and Nightwish during her time) forever! Loved this analysis.
I love Tarja... I actually do love Floor, but I knew Nightwish with Tarja. She'll always be a goddess to me and I hold her so dearly in my heart.
I have never seen Nightwish in concert with Floor. However, I did get to see Nightwish on their first U.S. tour in 2005. So yes, the first time I saw them Tarja was the singer and let me tell you...she tore the roof off. One of the best concerts I ever went to.
Agreed. I caught them on the Wishmaster tour in 2000 in Montreal on back to back nights (I think it was around Thanksgiving). "Blew the roof off the place" was the only way to describe it 🤘🤘
I think they toured US in 2002 or even earlier?
I saw them twice in Germany 2003, and twice in Melbourne (around 2005 I think?) and once in Sydney (same year).
Five times, and Tarja never missed a note. Every moment was captivating every time.
I was 14 when I went for the first time on a gig, it was Nightwish with Tarja. I can't forget it even if I tried. Kiitos for all your videos and analysis!
their reunion is top class
"..... but Marco!!!"
Yeah. Exactly! WHILE playing the bass AND looking badass and awesome! Damnit he's so good! I get the chills everytime I hear this performance and you really reacted so wonderful.
(I found Nightwish via Floor and for me that's special. But I do really love the Tarja era too, you don't have to put one in front of the other - they're both awesome in their different ways to sing and act)
exactly right i so agree both had there merits both were wonderful
I can't listen to anyone else play the Phantom, beside Marko.
He is soooo good.
this is the best and only version about this song. tarja and marko forever.
Escuchen a Tilo Wolf de lacrimosa 100000000000 veces mejor que marco
What's your take on Floor and Henk?
@@promethbastard My take is that both are amazing vocalists, but the actual tone of the song was...uh...television-friendly?
@@promethbastard Not enough grit on the Phantom.
He is the Phantom you can send nuns to listen to.
I had the big pleasure to see Nightwish live in Brazil in their first tour, and I may say that besides any professional opinion, Tarja was so great together with her friends, that I was so happy to have the chance to listen to them live...this show was really the end of an era! 🤘
I think that watching them performing together make you understand why this concert was named "end of an era". It is always beautiful to listen
Honestly the vocal dynamic between Tarja and Marco is why I fell in love with Nightwish.
Same here. Now that they are both gone from the band, Nightwish just won't sound like Nightwish to me.
Marco wasn't in Nightwish to begin with.
@@danwhitehousepc That's why I didn't say "I loved Marco from the bands first album," I specified that he was in it when *I* fell in love with the band. The first songs I heard from them were from Wish, which was after Marco had joined the band. Thanks.
@@JustSomeDamnGinger 👌
I advise you to listen "Ever Dream"(live) they singing together.
Ever Dream (live End of an Era)
@@davidviteris Ever Dream (Wacken 2013)
both, actually
@@ranger7544 There's one reason why I prefer the End of an Era version over the Wacken one: the last chorus sung as a duet.
@@ibriselric2 Wacken 2013 is the way NW always wanted it done ,just saying
This song was perfect! They should've made more songs like this.