@@TracyGonglik death penalty! As it's so severe! Manipulated the KIDS to the core also...for such an unspeakable evil deed! Death penalty... You don't harm children! And this story is just dreadful terrible 👎🏼
Shocking. Rest in peace Alex. You were another child failed by every adult in your life. You were abused, manipulated, lied to, imprisoned and then tossed out into the street like trash. I believe you. I want you to know that I believe you.
Don't you just love how the state gets to decide who's an "adult" and who isn't when the LEGAL age of becoming an "adult" is 18. If this 11 yr old was murdered, media and state would call him a child, because he is one, but if said 11 yr old kills someone they'll say he's a murderer and an adult and should spend life in prison. Hypocrisy.
These boys NEVER should've been charged, and instead, treated for their traumatic experiences. This is yet another case of the system failing children. If a random man brought 2 boys to a police station to confess murder, shouldn't the detectives have thought, "We need to start by investigating who he is to them and if he has any ulterior motives"? Chavis's record of pedophilia would've come right up, correct? Also, if their attorney did not fight to keep prejudicial language off limits for the prosecutor, then he was negligent. And if the judge refused to limit prejudicial language, then shame on him. Alex did NOT have a "relationship" with that disgusting POS. Law enforcement publicized their identities and questioned Alex on the stand like he was testifying against his ex-lover. A little boy was victimized by a known predator and brainwashed into hating his father, who seemed to be doing his best despite being impoverished. I cannot imagine how that affected Alex for the rest of his life, especially since this took place during a time when homophobia was rampant. Also, Chavis probably exacerbated Derek's likely feelings (hurt, shock, abandonment, disappointment, anger, resentment, etc.) to being rehomed (like an animal) for the second time in his life.
I absolutely agree 💯! Ricky stole Alex's purity, youth, security & in essence, his life. I can only think of what abuse Alex had to endure as a child, in an adult prison. Especially after his testimony of abuse he suffered from Ricky. Outside of the judge who vacated the original sentence, he was most definitely, failed by the system. Rip Terry & Alex
appaently the jury didnt think the case was proven in trial, which i havent seen the trial but im guessing half of the evidence wasnt allowed in, because there was plenty of evidence in this trial
I read they have since said that Chavis killed their father while they waited outside in a car. Why wasn't anyone banging on about the fact that a child the size of the eldest could no way overpower a man with a baseball bat. You have to be big and strong to wield a bat enough to kill someone. I hope this sentence would never of happened today those boys were raped again in court. Horrendous. I sincerely wish them the best.
Outraged asking a child did he have sexual relations with Ricky ! The child was raped and Sa it is illegal no child can consent. Outrageous they charged those children.
what what did you see or do you mean cant unhear it , iv not seen the crime scene photos, iv seen loads of other crime scene pics from faces blown off, stab wounds and all sorts of stuff
So sad these good looking boys ended up in this mess. It is so heartbreaking to have Alex passed away, imagine if they were brought up in good home the outlook would’ve been incredible. Thank you Vinnie for your amazing reporting as per usual.
Oh this is so sad and I had never heard of this case . I can see after all this how one of this he died of an overdose. What a horrible story preying on children. They looked younger than their ages.
20:20 Probably possessed of the rage of growing up in the shitty household where he lived in poverty, shuffled from neglect, and sexual abuse from the neighbor!
Absolutely heartbreaking! System, state, people, media and even us failed these poor boys! Instead of healing their wounds locking them up in adult prison! Such a reliable and fair justice system! My heart really bleeds for those kids who could have at least been understood and cared after a predator literally took everything from them!
Wow, I was a kid growing up in Cantonment in 2002. Was definitely a small town. I don’t think I knew these kids or anything, I went to a school in Pensacola despite living in Cantonment. But it’s crazy to know this happened and I was none the wiser. What a wild story.
I wouldn't think that those small boys would be able to overpower their dad. Not to mention that they would incapacitate him enough where the dad would not be able to overpower, run, or something and get away.
I'm absolutely shocked. I double and tripled checked the date of the crime because everyone in that court room looks and behaves like it's 1982. The shoulder pads, the hairdos, the boys who look like they are 12, but talk like they are 30. The whole world has stepped into the 21st century, but not Florida. Trying an ELEVEN YEAR OLD as an adult??? Calling that 11yo on the stand to ask him in details about "sexuql relationship" he has been having "- for several YEARS at that point - with a giant pedophile??? What in the hell is wrong with Florida??? That judge and that prosecutor should ROT IN HELL for what they have put these kids through. I mean, can you imagine - Alex was in 5th grade when the murder happened, and likely has been raped by that POS since the first grade or earlier.... Why didn't the governor intervene, the Supreme Court, anybody??? This is the worst case I have ever heard of, by far.
As with most of these docs on this story, only those who deep dive and LOCALs from this area, know some of the more telling truths. Such as even the Prosecutor and JUDGE did NOT believe their story about Chavs involvement. Those 2 were SO much more autonomous and, very devious. It's ALL in the court transcripts., legal opinions and notes. When you do read them, you'll realize how most of these shows are near worthless for really understanding what happened here and why the original verdict for Chavis and the flawed, but at least "SOME justice for the dad" verdict of the 2 others. Was the right verdicts, changed by public pressure and mob rules. The Dad got very little justice in this case
I often think I'd love to live in Florida until I remember really hot humid weather, snakes, big bugs, gators and other uncomfortable things. Hot weather isn't so bad if it's not humid. It's almost always humid in Florida. 😅
something upwards of 90% of severe addicts have a history of being assaulted in that same manner.. it ruins their self esteem and they end up self medicating and having risky behaviors
Did I hear that right???? The 40 year old was NOT convicted of sexually abusing the 11 year old boy who says he'd had relations with this man for a long time! Who knows how young Alex was when this abuse began, was he 10, 8, or even younger?? And this depraved excuse of a human being gets off? HOW???? I don't care if he got 30 years for after the fact! He should have got 30 for abusing a little boy, are you seriously kidding me! I'm absolutely enraged, and you people are saying your country are hard on predators. Yeah! Right! The US is is an embarrassemrnt.
I think the Father was a peodophile too and he knew what his friend was doing to Alex. These poor babies were never going to be safe. And that police officer being the friend of a convicted peodophile. I think this was a peodophile ring. Watching this infuriates me. These poor babies!
Well the, and the format in which the text messages are is important I don't care what the alleged experience attorney has to say because it is significant for the reason that that's not how cell phone data is put when dividing dates and times to show significant time stamps for these messages, doesn't make sense in normal format for goodness sake. And for the sake of argument I left out punctuation marks on this huge run-on sentence to prove how significant commas are LOL
EXACTLY! I just went through every messaging app I have and not a single one uses a comma between the date and time... If I was on the jury and the defense brought that up, that alone would seal the deal for me. It's tampering with evidence and why would these people do that if Karen was in-fact, plain guilty??
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Vinnie what happened to the two boys?
been following vinnie since HLN and n Grace
1. Derick did not engage in a “sexual relationship” with travis, he was MOLESTED! He was 11!
🎯 That part.
*Alex
Abused
This was devastating 😢 this happened in my town. Both brothers went to church with us. Chavis was absolutely a predator! He ruined those boys!
My hometown as well. It was horrible. Alex passed away recently 💔
@@saltysleuthWhat happened to him? How old was he?
@@saltysleuth I know I just heard from a family friend...it is awful 😖
Hometown? More like 3 dirt roads and ah bunch illiterate rednecks who molest their kids
I’m from Crestview (about an hour away) and remember the shock around town from it being so close to home. Truly a sad situation.
makes my heart hurt, those boys lost their innocence and were brainwashed by that evil scumbag
What did I just watch 😏🥺😮🤢🤮
a horrific story that monster deserves a stiffer sentence he's a child predator. These poor boys.
@@TracyGonglik death penalty! As it's so severe! Manipulated the KIDS to the core also...for such an unspeakable evil deed! Death penalty... You don't harm children! And this story is just dreadful terrible 👎🏼
Not poor boys at the end of the day they chose to kill their dad
@@LyraReid yeah they f'd up , but defo take into consideration their messed up minds
Shocking. Rest in peace Alex. You were another child failed by every adult in your life. You were abused, manipulated, lied to, imprisoned and then tossed out into the street like trash. I believe you. I want you to know that I believe you.
Well said and I agree. God rest your soul Alex 🙏🏻
How did he die?
@@codynewman8910 . You can't spare the time to watch the video, you won't get any answers off of me. Hit play if you want to know.
@@jeanettehinds4253calm down, nobody sent me the memo saying your weird self was in charge.
Seven years in an adult Florida prison ruined him for good.
This was all wrong. How can an eleven year old child, a victim of an unscrupulous pedophille, be charged as an adult?
Don't you just love how the state gets to decide who's an "adult" and who isn't when the LEGAL age of becoming an "adult" is 18. If this 11 yr old was murdered, media and state would call him a child, because he is one, but if said 11 yr old kills someone they'll say he's a murderer and an adult and should spend life in prison. Hypocrisy.
They also can’t waive the right to an attorney so the confessions should be thrown out
Sick, just truly sick.
Its Florida. They do things a little different down there
That’s Florida for you
These boys NEVER should've been charged, and instead, treated for their traumatic experiences. This is yet another case of the system failing children.
If a random man brought 2 boys to a police station to confess murder, shouldn't the detectives have thought, "We need to start by investigating who he is to them and if he has any ulterior motives"? Chavis's record of pedophilia would've come right up, correct?
Also, if their attorney did not fight to keep prejudicial language off limits for the prosecutor, then he was negligent. And if the judge refused to limit prejudicial language, then shame on him. Alex did NOT have a "relationship" with that disgusting POS. Law enforcement publicized their identities and questioned Alex on the stand like he was testifying against his ex-lover. A little boy was victimized by a known predator and brainwashed into hating his father, who seemed to be doing his best despite being impoverished. I cannot imagine how that affected Alex for the rest of his life, especially since this took place during a time when homophobia was rampant.
Also, Chavis probably exacerbated Derek's likely feelings (hurt, shock, abandonment, disappointment, anger, resentment, etc.) to being rehomed (like an animal) for the second time in his life.
ALL of this!!
I absolutely agree 💯! Ricky stole Alex's purity, youth, security & in essence, his life. I can only think of what abuse Alex had to endure as a child, in an adult prison. Especially after his testimony of abuse he suffered from Ricky. Outside of the judge who vacated the original sentence, he was most definitely, failed by the system. Rip Terry & Alex
So sad for the dad who tried so hard to bring his boys up well.
Did he? He sounds like a crap parent
He probably shouldn't have been messing with a 15/16 year old when he was 25
What the father was not messing about!!!
@@myunknownland9272 with his sons mother, yeah he was
How could they not convict him for sexual child abuse
appaently the jury didnt think the case was proven in trial, which i havent seen the trial but im guessing half of the evidence wasnt allowed in, because there was plenty of evidence in this trial
Thank you so much court tv for finally putting it on the youtube!!
I read they have since said that Chavis killed their father while they waited outside in a car. Why wasn't anyone banging on about the fact that a child the size of the eldest could no way overpower a man with a baseball bat. You have to be big and strong to wield a bat enough to kill someone. I hope this sentence would never of happened today those boys were raped again in court. Horrendous. I sincerely wish them the best.
I don't understand lawyers who represents child rapists
Heartbreaking 😢
I hope Alex has found peace now , tragic
Those boys are not the same anymore..u can see it in their eyes...he took everything away from them
How the hell were these 2 children charged as adults? Epic fail by the judicial system
It’s Florida
In California the kids will not be charged
But what do you expect from people who pretend to care about kids
Alex King passed away recently of a drug overdose.
That’s devastating I feel this chavais was molesting. And they did what chavais wanted them to do.
Heartbreaking for both the boys and their late father.
what a waste of life.
Outraged asking a child did he have sexual relations with Ricky ! The child was raped and Sa it is illegal no child can consent. Outrageous they charged those children.
Any courttv video with Vinnie is worth the watch
I WILL NEVER, EVER FORGET THIS. Can't "un see" this in my minds eye.
sickening
what what did you see or do you mean cant unhear it , iv not seen the crime scene photos, iv seen loads of other crime scene pics from faces blown off, stab wounds and all sorts of stuff
oh that little boy is testifying that pervert is smiling that's just disgusting prison Justice for him
POOR ALEX!!! BREAKS my HEART how manipulated he was. Sick and twisted SOB needs to be mamed in prison.
So evil and disgusting he's triggering all my childhood sexual traumas for sure...he deserves to be out UNDER the jail
@@chowder_1148 THIS!!
R.I.P. Alex 😢
How did he die ???
@@angela5802 Massive heart attack caused by a drug overdose.
So sad these good looking boys ended up in this mess. It is so heartbreaking to have Alex passed away, imagine if they were brought up in good home the outlook would’ve been incredible. Thank you Vinnie for your amazing reporting as per usual.
What has them being good looking got to do with anything? So if they were ugly it wouldn’t matter?
@@Jedstopexactly. People are weird smh
eeew you creep susan , calling kids good looking , your a freak
Looks doesn’t have anything with what happened is only the upbringing the lack of stability, maybe lack of love too. 💝💝
Vinnie you do such a great job. Thank you for all you do ❤
Where are the boys now in 2024???
What's the point of keeping Chavis's verdict sealed but then bringing him to testify in the boys' trial wearing handcuffs and a prison jumpsuit?
Probably because since the verdict was sealed he couldn’t even know the verdict himself yet or get out of / be sentenced to prison
They were just children, manipulated by a bad adult
Wonder what the jury thought about him sitting there smirking?
Oh this is so sad and I had never heard of this case . I can see after all this how one of this he died of an overdose. What a horrible story preying on children. They looked younger than their ages.
We must protect the children
Yes. Thank you very much.
You're welcome!
20:20 Probably possessed of the rage of growing up in the shitty household where he lived in poverty, shuffled from neglect, and sexual abuse from the neighbor!
This is such a sad story
The fact that the real text records are not being used by the prosecution & screen shots are valid evidence is a complete joke.
Ricky Chavez groomed Alex and Derick and told them exactly what they should confess to! Disgusting ! 😢
Absolutely heartbreaking! System, state, people, media and even us failed these poor boys! Instead of healing their wounds locking them up in adult prison! Such a reliable and fair justice system! My heart really bleeds for those kids who could have at least been understood and cared after a predator literally took everything from them!
How your state can treat children like this is despicable
The system killed n ruid these innocent boys. No one becomes a drug addict for no reason 😢
Wow, I was a kid growing up in Cantonment in 2002. Was definitely a small town. I don’t think I knew these kids or anything, I went to a school in Pensacola despite living in Cantonment. But it’s crazy to know this happened and I was none the wiser. What a wild story.
Alex died a few weeks ago
How?
Overdose it looks like.
what a waste of life.
Such a horrific story.
To think Chavez was almost walking around again, among everyday citizens is a travesty.
I wouldn't think that those small boys would be able to overpower their dad. Not to mention that they would incapacitate him enough where the dad would not be able to overpower, run, or something and get away.
Right the man didn’t even move from
The position he was in when he fell asleep on his couch only a grown man could hit him that hard
Vinnie excellent job!! I love it 😊
I'm absolutely shocked. I double and tripled checked the date of the crime because everyone in that court room looks and behaves like it's 1982. The shoulder pads, the hairdos, the boys who look like they are 12, but talk like they are 30.
The whole world has stepped into the 21st century, but not Florida. Trying an ELEVEN YEAR OLD as an adult??? Calling that 11yo on the stand to ask him in details about "sexuql relationship" he has been having "- for several YEARS at that point - with a giant pedophile???
What in the hell is wrong with Florida???
That judge and that prosecutor should ROT IN HELL for what they have put these kids through.
I mean, can you imagine - Alex was in 5th grade when the murder happened, and likely has been raped by that POS since the first grade or earlier....
Why didn't the governor intervene, the Supreme Court, anybody???
This is the worst case I have ever heard of, by far.
this is so sad😢
Always Florida! I’m gonna stay in Boston and let Karen Read back over me in her SUV
As with most of these docs on this story, only those who deep dive and LOCALs from this area, know some of the more telling truths. Such as even the Prosecutor and JUDGE did NOT believe their story about Chavs involvement. Those 2 were SO much more autonomous and, very devious. It's ALL in the court transcripts., legal opinions and notes. When you do read them, you'll realize how most of these shows are near worthless for really understanding what happened here and why the original verdict for Chavis and the flawed, but at least "SOME justice for the dad" verdict of the 2 others. Was the right verdicts, changed by public pressure and mob rules. The Dad got very little justice in this case
This is the saddest one I’ve seen so far. 😢
This was not the whole story. Alex and Derek did confess. It was part of the deal.
Everyone failed these boys
been following vinnie since HLN and N Grace
This is wrong in so many levels
That prosecutor really has no remorse huh ?
Never seen this story before.
Wow. Just terrible . Awful
Am speechless
What is on the judges head ??
I can't see anything but some shine from the lights but the defense attorney's pants are pretty interesting.😮
I often think I'd love to live in Florida until I remember really hot humid weather, snakes, big bugs, gators and other uncomfortable things. Hot weather isn't so bad if it's not humid. It's almost always humid in Florida. 😅
Good old Ricky 🤬
The coma in the texts, manipulate the timestamp? Like that’s okay??? The coma matters it’s not there after the year everybody knows that! Hello. . . .
Poor lil boys
Wow they threw that little boy who had been being raped by a grown man into a adult prison What the
Does anyone know the prison that Ricky Chavis is locked up in?
something upwards of 90% of severe addicts have a history of being assaulted in that same manner.. it ruins their self esteem and they end up self medicating and having risky behaviors
VInnie, , Does Corey Micchilo’s mom have a case v. Judge and DCF??
A very sad case. And a very strange case.
Sickening
Way to keep victims of grooming and sexual molestation safe USA. Those testimonies were devastating. This was a disturbing watch.
Did I hear that right????
The 40 year old was NOT convicted of sexually abusing the 11 year old boy who says he'd had relations with this man for a long time!
Who knows how young Alex was when this abuse began, was he 10, 8, or even younger??
And this depraved excuse of a human being gets off?
HOW????
I don't care if he got 30 years for after the fact!
He should have got 30 for abusing a little boy, are you seriously kidding me!
I'm absolutely enraged, and you people are saying your country are hard on predators.
Yeah!
Right!
The US is is an embarrassemrnt.
Those boys were victims.
Hold up. Why was Derek in a foster home? Why didn't he know his real father and brother? Where is these boy's mother?
"Mechanical"
Gripping case
I think the Father was a peodophile too and he knew what his friend was doing to Alex. These poor babies were never going to be safe. And that police officer being the friend of a convicted peodophile. I think this was a peodophile ring. Watching this infuriates me. These poor babies!
OMG!!!! CUT THE DAM MUSIC IN THE BEGINNING, YOU CANNOT HEAR WHAT'S BEING SAID!!!!!!! SO ANNOYING!!!!
So go read an article about the case
this is old news
wtf? why do they keep saying relationship???????OMG
lets go!
Well the, and the format in which the text messages are is important I don't care what the alleged experience attorney has to say because it is significant for the reason that that's not how cell phone data is put when dividing dates and times to show significant time stamps for these messages, doesn't make sense in normal format for goodness sake. And for the sake of argument I left out punctuation marks on this huge run-on sentence to prove how significant commas are LOL
EXACTLY! I just went through every messaging app I have and not a single one uses a comma between the date and time...
If I was on the jury and the defense brought that up, that alone would seal the deal for me. It's tampering with evidence and why would these people do that if Karen was in-fact, plain guilty??
Karen wouk have to get on the stand to explain how she knew where he was covered by snow.
Huh?
Your commenting on the wrong story and I’ve been following Karen ‘s trial and he was not completely covered in snow
41:52 hes beautiful
My messages on android says Wendnesday, May 15
But no comma between time and date-- that's the comma that doesn't belong.
@@amandassimplelife My cell phone shows comma's
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My hometown and this case was huge. SHOUT out to @mollyebarrows ✌️