Ulysses Episode 3: Proteus
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2017
- Wow. This episode is like hitting a brick wall at 120 MPH. But I hope that this video will open it up for you. There are a few episodes like this so let this prepare us for what's ahead!
PLEASE leave me your comments. I want to hear from you.
What you do here and how passionate you are about the book is just precious ✨ a huge thank you for these inspiring talks!
idk if you're still reading comments after 5 years, but if you are, I would just like you to know that you've been an amazing resource for my reading group in our reading and appreciation of this great work.
This is so much more than just a summary! Your passion and knowledge on Ulysses, joyce and everything around it is amazing. We're so lucky we can listen to you for hours
Remember to think about what Stephen is missing. The opening line of this episode is your first clue. Leave your comments. I want to hear from YOU!
Some observations ….3-39 Gabler, “put me on to Edenville Aleph Alpha nought nought one….” Stephen wants to telephone the Garden of Eden and talk to someone, some 1?…who would that be?😮 when I write Aleph Alpha nought nought one on paper, those nought looked like 2 bellybuttons (omphalos), surely not the navals of Adam and Eve 😅
Chris, great video! Just one note: I don’t think he visited his uncle. I think he just visit “mentally” his uncle. Don’t you think? I’ve just read again and still have this impression.
Stephen wants to be remembered, recognized, get the attention he deserved. The paper, the particle he left on the rock, the urinating, all of these for creating something for somebody else to remember. He was asking that question in the text as well. He thinks he is weak not capable of neither his mom nor a drowning body. This is I think Joyce's worry as well to write this novel.
stephen realizes that what he perceives, like us, is just the "signature of all things," not the thing itself. is he missing love? which has been replaced by guilt. what he sees in reality is transformed in his mind to a longlist of other things...
Challenge episode indeed but instead of being scared of I feel more invested into discovering the different layers of Ulysses. I can see how this novel is not only a masterpiece but also a novel you can enjoy in a very literary nerdy way :D Thank you for your videos
Many commentators say that the stand-in for the god Proteus in this chapter is the dog, which makes Stephen Menelaus. The dog acts in undog-like ways, shape-shifting, acting like a deer or a hare or a horse, until it encounters a dead dog. Then it is shocked back into "dogness". Do you agree on this interpretation?
I like what I’m reading a lot, but this episode really does stretch your perception of what physically is going on. Feels just like pure cognition put on paper. I got the impression he was remembering his time in Paris and that he didn’t even go to his uncles house and was more like just thinking of what would happen if he did and pessimistically predicting how it’d go. Fun read though
Middle aged woman from Colombia: I just finished reading Proteus for the third time. First I really enjoyed it. Like a treasure hunt with a good map vs. being in a wilderness with hope there is a treasure somewhere. THANK YOU!
Second time reading Ulysses. Your the first commentator that mentions Proteus's knowledge of past present and future which is useful. Another person explained clearly the time and space references but not directy linked to Proteus. This chapter is I think the hardest and is training for the rest. Maybe Circe is more difficult but by the time you get there your more informed and more familiar with unusual langage and imagery.
Reading this episode is like learning Tai Chi as a beginner. You don't know what you're doing. You are told that it'll take a long time to learn it; and that you may never be good enough at it even if you practice it daily till you die. Yet, some won't let go. Ineluctable modality of the visible indeed.
Chris, I was a bit surprised to hear you mention Stephens visit to his uncle's house as if it was actual. From what I gathered, the visit completely played out in our protagonist's mind and never really took place. Around line 160: "He halted. I have passed the way to aunt Sara's. Am I not going there? Seems not."
Thanks, Chris, very helpful guide for a difficult Chapter. Writing this as I look out on the snotgreen irish Sea.
I bought the book years ago and despaired of the 1. chapter... kinda bought it, because it would make a good look in the shelf. But it always bothered me, that i couldn't finish it. So now in this strange days, i said to myself - when, if not now. And i Starter again.
Thanks for this, I'm taking a U3A class on the book and rereading it after 50 years. I loved "Portrait" as a young man and was surprised, on reading Ulysses in the 70s and again now, how holy I find Bloom. I like a topology of head, heart, gut groin; and It seemed to be then, and now, that Stephen was enmeshed in head and groin, thoughts and desires, where Leopold is led by heart and gut, feelings and convictions. Between them there's a whole person. Again, thanks for sharing your ideas!
Yes thank you. And the comments are very helpful too. Irish and years trying to read Ulysses.
Thank you so much for this. I am reading Ulysses for my honours class and it has been a bit of a struggle. You have helped a lot!