Minecraft 1.19 Snapshot 22W19A Birch Forest & Fireflies! Where Are They?
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0:00 Snapshot 22w19a
0:21 Rainbow Chat!
1:27 Warnings & Settings
2:06 Locate POIs
2:58 Place Template
3:24 Warden Changes
4:47 Warden VS Ender Dragon
5:18 Bug Fixes
5:55 Fireflies in 1.19
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6:50 Bundles in 1.19
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7:32 Bedrock Spectator Mode
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"Concept art is not a commitment"
I guess neither is the half hour Agnes talked specifically about how beautiful the birch forest and fireflies would be
I love Agnes, but that feels really heartbreaking now.
So true
It's basically the same as if I'd start advertising some game with revolutional gp, then would release a program with like a black screen or smth and when people would start to get upset I'd say "Well, this is just an ad. An ad is not a commitment.". THE AUDACY-
it's a pretty big cop out. it sounds like a very disingenuous excuse, as if it's our fault for thinking by showing something for half an hour that it would be in the game
Do you guys just not know the concept of scrapping features
Welp, ok, when they called it the "Wild" update, I expected a wild update. This really is just the Deep Dark Update with a swamp biome attached. The Birch forest is what I looked forward to the most.
Yeah but the deep dark was suposed to be in 1.17. Now its 1.19 and it and a new biome are the only features !?
Heres a tip for the future, don't get excited over concept art because as we see here it doesn't always get put into the game, I recommend to start getting excited about the stuff that is actually getting coded
@@thegaymilkgoddess309 like fireflies?
@@thegaymilkgoddess309 Nobody is excited about the allay, and we've all got warden fatigue at this point and just want the dang thing released no matter where they're at with it.
@@thegaymilkgoddess309 You say that, but then they named it the "Wild update". And I went back to look at when they talked about the Wild Update, and they talked about the birch forest in great detail about what they wanted to do with that biome, and they showed concept art for it as well as the mangrove swamp. Sure they didn't show any gameplay of the birch forest, but still, it was all worded as if both these biomes were planned to be there for the Wild Update. It was an expected part of this update. And I think most people will agree that they expected it. It is such a large topic exactly because we expected it.
1.19 can hardly be called the "Wild Update" anymore with so many of the biome updates being cancelled. Also, even older than the fletching table, what about Illusioners?
Illusioners have found their use in Minecraft Dungeons at least, for what that's worth considering the state that game is in.
Even older than illusioners, what about Rana?
Where is the fortress mode?
Same with the "Exploration" update
Should be called "the mild update"
Something that minecraft is sorely lacking in is life. Without the default creatures a world feels completely barren. Even with the creatures the world feels pretty static, adding some atmospheric "mobs" (they don't have to be actual intractable entities) would really bring this game to life.
Shame we're not going to see fireflies or some more dynamic biomes.
We absolutely need more in the style of bats or ambient particles 2.0 for the overworld. Fireflies, crickets, butterflies, whether entities, particles or just sounds, any of those would add so much more. We already see it with ambience mods.
Agreed, the overworld biomes are generally the same, they just look different. A few of them contain interesting items like jungles the bamboo, but overall they lack any identity. There is no reason to actively search for a specific biome, because nothing is there that is very useful gameplay wise. And yes, they are also barren and lifeless
Also, dense fog as a weather event would be really cool
They should do something like what they did for the nether forests. They have an amazing atmosphere to them.
@@dykrev I think the nether update was one of the best updates they've ever done
The wild update initially was promoted as a atmospheric update, and yet i feel like the mangrove swamp looks more dead than before. They should keep fire flies as a particle affect and then just add a fog, it would seriously do wonders for that biome
Yeah, they definitely dropped the ball with this update.
@@sillydave5544 Good things there are no balls in Minecraft then, otherwise Mojang would really have to be worried about their terrible choices! :P
@@LordDragox412 lol
@@sillydave5544 better it means the update will be better when it comes
Seriously, if Mojang has an issue with frogs eating fireflies, then just don’t have them eat fireflies. There is no justifiable reason not to include them in the game after they already implemented it and teased everyone.
Despite the fact I have never cared about the birch forest stuff, I find it pretty absurd that they went to all the trouble of making a big deal of it and then just never did. Yes, yes, it's better to have polished, cohesive content than rushed content, but if literally every update is announced and then promises are backpedaled on and/or pushed off to the next update, what's even the point? At this point, they may as well just be honest and call this update "Caves and Cliffs Part 3". It's their responsibility to stop making promises if they don't have any intention to keep them.
And that's really the thing. There is no way they can't do better. There's literally an entire team of people working on this (arguably) biggest game in the world, and they spend a year to give us what a single person could figure out how to mod in in a week if they really wanted to, and I'm assuming they're starting with no experience.
This isn't even just pathetic anymore, it's approaching scam-levels of bs.
@@seigeengine Minecraft has wedged itself into a bit of a corner. They have to update two entirely different codebases, Java and Bedrock, to be basically the same game. They need to fix the bugs of both versions before either can be released. It makes the game more accessible, but it bogs down the rest of the game’s progress. I don’t even know how they managed to make it this far. But as the game gets bigger, and the code gets messier, it’s all gonna get slower.
@@alcoholicape1306 Gosh, different teams might have to both do the same week of work a year? Tell me it ain't so!
It sure does elicit a lot of hype and attention to announce big things, and another bit of attention when you backpedal. Attention is money. Maybe marketing is overtaking development here
@@alcoholicape1306 Heheh and they still update the game on 10 year old devices like the iPhone 5.
Apparently they do bug testing for individual devices too. I’ve been saying it for years, you can’t keep supporting these old and outdated devices. It’s the same with holding back bedrocks performance opportunities on newer more capable devices.
On PS5 simulation distance is capped at 10 chunks which is nothing in today’s standards.
On my most recent world before I knew it my house was more than 10 chunks from my farms and then they weren’t working when I was doing stuff over there.
Render distance is still capped on PS5 to 28 when the console is probably capable of 40 no problem.
Like just let me use the power of my console instead of putting stupid caps on everything.
If it crashes it crashes.
Stop shielding us from technical issues and let us find the limits of our platform.
Ray tracing on PS5 has also just died apparently that’s never happening until they find a way to make you pay for it.
They seem to be betting on Minecraft’s long term success but the game isn’t invulnerable to getting stale and for me that is sort of happening.
The caves and cliffs update changed an already boring world that is dead and devoid of life. The game needs an immersive update more than anything else for me to return.
They still havent added new types of lilypads, like flowering lilypad and clustered lilypad. And more foliages + fireflies. The mangrove and swamp biome still needs an upgrade. Its sad that their overpromising every update.
They don't have COVID to blame anymore.
1.19 is just disappointing.
I'm happy to get free stuff and appreciate it but can't help but to be disappointed when someone tells me they're giving me something and then goes back on their word.
I once saw someone call this one 1.19, the Mild Update
It's not even that they are overpromising; they have an entire dev team. I've seen single amateur modders develop more content in less time than the tiny drops out of the bucket that Mojang adds to their game each release.
*Minecraft needs progression and life*
Mojang: Best we can do is a pointless animal, a tree with wood that needed to be retextured because it was almost identical to wood that already existed, and a half thought out underground ruins.... oh and we scrapped everything else for literally no reason at all.
@@bernadettavarley one of devs is blaming the pandemic his name is was kingbdogz ge also one of the moders that made the aether
With 1.18 being delayed and even the deep dark being delayed I could understand, at that point they were still working around Covid and they created a HUGE update with a lot of technical changes that needed working out, and they didn’t want to deliver a crappy product. And it paid off too, with one of the bests updates to game in several years.
However this just feels like they wanted to do an update focused on the deep dark (which I still think needs some work) but felt it wasn’t enough for a major update and threw in a couple other things. With a title like the “Wild Update” two biomes and scary boss mob doesn’t cut it. They didn’t even need to do much, just add a few things to some of the existing biomes to spice them up and bring them into the present. Instead they focus all their energy on very specific things in the game and over promise on the rest. They just need to spread out the love a little.
Honestly, at this point, I feel like it would have been better if they'd made the Deep Dark its own update and made 1.20 the Wild Update, with them also adding in the promised updates for the Desert, Badlands, and Savanna biomes.
They were originally going to add the warden in the unified 1.17 caves and cliffs update. Feels like they're still playing catch-up from taking on too much in that one, no different than the cluster that happened when they combined The Flattening and the aquatic update in 1.13.....
@@Raskolnikov70 not to much they are an incompetent team of developers their game is a buggy mess. Modders can add more in a day imagine if they were given a month or a year and we're paid the same as Mojang developers. Also kingbdogz added deep dark and he was a modder and that the only features really standing out in this update.
@@sammann3577 200 divided by 3 games, then take the none coders out of those numbers, then account for the constant communications for each version of the game, then account for the no crunching culture and better working conditions, then account for the development of an idea for a feature, then much of them being canceled, then prototyping and redesigning, meetings for said feature for further development, contradicting and different ideas for same feature by each dev, etc etc, but that doesnt really excuse them for being so lazy, but it does explain why it takes so long for updates compared to modders, as modder has less to do and has their own vision, while mojang would have to discuss about their different idea for the same feature, think of the allay, before we saw what it looks like, we would only have short descriptions, a small ghost/fairy like mob that helps carrying/picking stuff, that can be interpreted by the dev team in multitude of ways, whilst a lone modder can think of a rough idea and implement it faster
@@charlestonianbuilder344 now go look at the developers of no man sky
@@sammann3577 just saying I'm pretty sure modders don't just magically make features out of thin air in no time like everyone keeps saying. They still have to bugfix and plan things out for updates, and some take years to get where they are now
Not gonna lie, without the birch forests this update feels a bit lackluster. Saying that showing concept art is not a commitment make me feel like I can’t trust a Minecraft live again. It feels like they are starting to get a bit lazy.
Agreed it’s not even a wild update
@@blakelandry9313 cave update part 3 with another red wood and the lag biome.
#WeNeedARealWildUpdate
@@blakelandry9313 #WeNeedARealWildUpdate
At that point it's kind of a "ah we decided to show the what if's" rather than "here's what we actually want to implement". The update is gonna feel half baked without some of these things and calling it the "wild update" really doesn't work at that point as a title.
For an update called "The Wild Update", I feel rather underwhelmed if this is looking like the final version. Why no more animals? No atmosphere/scenery additions?
Ah, but you see, the frogs and their tadpoles are the ultimate new animal and atmospheric addition 2 in 1. Clearly, not even fireflies could continue existing without being of use to enhancing the frogs. All hail the frogs.
Seriously though, I may be joking, but that is an actual interpretation you could reasonably get out of the way they hyped the update, combined with this list of additions. Funny, if it weren't a bad joke.
I think that they have some direction issues, especially in the planning phase. They always seem to promise too much, but those things they can actually make are not that good either
wouldn't you say...
Its Wildly underwhelming?
@@rasenche4562 underrated comment
@@remor698 I mean they could've opted to use Fireflies as a new light source by putting them in a lantern instead of whatever the fuck frog lights are supposed to be. Then they could expand on that with other ambient bugs and terrarium sorta blocks.
Is everyone forgetting that archeology is being pushed back FOUR updates past when it was supposed to be added? Fireflies, illusioners, fletching tables, birtch forests, and past biome votes aren’t the only things that Mojang is cutting…
No, it was just a stupid idea in the first place.
I am not upset by the lack of archeology
i kinda liked the archeology. I'm really annoyed too.
I think it would be cool if there was a random chance for there to be a “firefly night” every night which would add firefly particles in plains and swamp biomes.
Sorta like terraria?
Oooh, I love the idea of a firefly night! They’d only come out once in a while, making the event feel more special.
Yes. Just yes. I have nothing more to say.
Yeah and for atmospheric effect, they could add fog to the area and when the 'firefly night' occurs, the fog disappears and you can hear little twinkles and buzzing and no mobs spawn that night. Also you can get an achievement called "Lad in the Lamp"
@@veriousshifter2930 But imagine if you could get a bottle of fireflies, then you could place them some where and fireflies would fly around the area. Similar to how the spore blossom produces the floating spore effect, except it would be fire flies. Just Imagine all the cool builds like mystical forests, and castles. The firefly would add so much.
The wild update should've added little things to every biome, like abandoned wood cabins in forests or surface moss biomes near azaelea trees etc.
Ambience could go a long way and fireflies would look amazing. Making a wild update and just adding 2 new biomes (one of which was supposed to be in 1.18) isn't really a wild update at all. How cool would it be if you could find little oasises in the desert? or little campsites in the forests? But no, we can't even get fireflies... :/
What is especially sad is, that "giving each biome a more distinct character and ambience" was literally a very large part of the whole wild update theme. That has just been reduced to "people want better birch forests" by Mojang, sweeping the context under the rug, but even that is something we aren't getting because they just didn't continue working on it. No reason given.
Couldn't agree more. We don't need complicated technical stuff that most players are (at best) going to use maybe once and then never touch again. But improving all of the biomes with a few tweaks like ambient mobs and more varied tree shapes - like they already do with oak - would be an incredible improvement for everyone.
@@remor698 I think a common issue with Mojang is that they focus heavily on one biome/feature at a time and add to it so much that everything else seems out of balance in comparison. The new swamp is going to feel so mod-like because of how there's new blocks and generation while every other surface biome has stayed the same since 1.12. I noticed this a lot with the new mountain generation- sure, the mountains look great, but the lackluster biomes around them really drain the life out of it. And then there's the whole thing of it being rushed. 1.17 really wasn't an update at all without the caves and cliffs generation, and we didn't even get the deep dark until 1.19.
@@aspwned The balance issues get even more absurd when you look at a comparison between structures and even worse with mobs. Compare a desert temple to the ancient city or even just a village or compare a zombie to the warden or even just a frog. The discrepancy in quality is so ridiculous, the devs would basically need to pull the breaks on any plans for additions and overhaul all their old content again, just to make the game feel properly balanced.
Edit: This is talking from a visual standpoint, not gameplay balance.
Lol, have you forgotten that Mojang is the developper? Set your expectations low and don't be surprised if Mojang fails to deliever even then.
I wish they'd even just make fireflies a particle effect instead, with some kind of a source, like how spore blossoms work. they were so key to the new swamp ambiance in the concepts :(
Make it a nighttime swamp exclusive ambient particle, like how the nether particles work and let the players craft an open firefly lantern to take a piece of that ambience with you elsewhere, like the spore blossoms, but player made and glowy. Job done.
I love mojang, but I really hope this doesn't become a trend. The pandemic may have affected them behind the scenes, but it really feels like they keep biting off more than they can chew. First they had to split Cave and Cliffs, then the Deep Dark got delayed, bundles and archeology got put back on the shelf for a variety of reasons, and now they canceled parts of the next update. Some of the parts that gave it the name of "the wild update"
I can understand not wanting frogs to eat fireflies. I mean, I don't think living magma would be safer for them to eat, but it's less realistic. Trying to make it work like parrots and cookies wouldn't work when the frogs were eating them on their own. But surely they could have left them in for ambiance like bats?
And there was quite a bit of the livestream where they were talking about how beautiful the birch forests will be, just to say they never committed to it. If concept are wasn't a commitment, why did they never the wisp being planned for 1.16? Nobody was disappointed to find out about it later, because they didn't get our hopes up too soon.
Hopefully they take everything into account this year and don't make promises they can't keep. I think everyone would rather being pleasantly surprised by a feature revealed after the event then being disappointed again.
Hopefully we get to see some of this stuff in a future update! That would be awesome!
what wisp?
@@jakub2907 ruclips.net/video/IXu7yKUmBEw/видео.html There you go, chief
@@jakub2907 it was the early version of the Allay. They reworked it for thd mob vote. It was talked about in the "secrets of the allay" video
Mate. They've literally given us a day's worth of work for a single person, and then stuff they promised us they'd have done a year ago.
If an entire team of professionals can't chew at least ten times this, maybe they should all be fired and replaced by people who actually do work.
not having that really pretty birch forest is depressing. I know the concept art wouldn't have translated over perfectly, but it looks like firewatch or something. Is it really that hard to add in a new structure for the fallen logs, a new type of flowers and some bracket mushrooms? just make the mushrooms the same as brown or red in crafting recipes if that's an issue. you could even add a biome fog like in the nether that is tinted a light blue and pretty thin
No it wouldn't have been hard, as someone who mods Minecraft, no it wouldn't be hard
Well, we are stuck with vanilla enhancing mods...
Xisuma speaking the truth. I love Mojang, but like I just wish we had this stuff in this update. If they make the update take longer but add all this cool biome stuff, it would be great.
I wouldn't even mind them adding features that they didn't spend quite so much time on, unlike the Warden which they've been working on for ages and honestly doesn't excite me anymore after how long it's been since it was originally announced.
Judging by their output and what actually shows up in the finished updates, they're spending most of their time constantly adjusting a few select features in response from tweets from a few dozen members of the technical community.
Seriously, Mojang, most of your player base just wants cool biomes and more varied mobs. Most of us aren't going to use allays for anything or care about the fine details of how the warden sonic boom animations look. Can we just get a few more passive mobs and maybe some more varied trees for a change?
@@Raskolnikov70 Yeah, how dare mojang not cater to my tastes
@@zlidyh5 Do you feel Mojang is doing a better job by catering to a handful of RUclipsrs and technical players? Or do you think they should focus more on what the vast majority of the player base is telling them after every snapshot video gets released? Scroll through the comments in every one of X's snapshot videos and you'll see the problem.
@@Raskolnikov70 I agree with you. All of the updates from about 1.14 have been on the small side and half of them are overall only fun for like an hour. Even the cave update did not add anything fun to play around with. Where are the new cave mobs? What about cave loot? Oh new blocks ... "fun". I also still don't see anything worth exploring the deep dark for.
So they stopped Fireflies, lied about birch forest, paused on bundles, forgot about archeology, but added a goat horn, that does nothing for now...
Dotn forget we only got normal goat horn, apparently copper horn wasnt good enough to their "exceptation"
They only good features added in this update was added by a modder kingbdogz 🤣🤣🤣
Goat horn does nothing? Didn't you hear this ... beautiful ... jingle it does? Now that's a feature I am glad to wait 5 patches for. Exciting times, great developers!
On top of that they won't add rtx on ps5 and Xbox series x
glow squids
The birch forests would have been the only “new” biome besides the mangrove swamps that were part of a biome vote and deep dark that was supposed to come last update
Birch forests are already in the game, this would have been a visual and gameplay overhaul of them
I do also hate the weaselly excuse of "just because we showed concept art doesn't mean we're going to do it"
Like just admit that plans change during development, or it was outside the scope of what the team could get done in time. The fact that they chose to show something to hype people up, people got excited for it, then basically go "why did you get excited for it, we didn't say we were going to do it". Like they clearly planned to or attempted to, otherwise why show it. Embarrassing really.
@@supersnail5000 It is doubly weaselly, because in this statement, they covertly swept under the rug the fact, that birch forests were noted alongside swamps as just another example of how they wanted to give biomes more of a distinctive character and ambience. That wasn't just a concept art, that was an entire half of the update's theme, that just got discarded without a stated reason.
6:14 is a cursed timestamp, not only does xisuma say "Minecraft Live 2001", but also the video segment is titled "Fireflies in 1.9"
I love it :D
Flashbacks to Minecraft Alpha?
A feature 20 years in the making!
Why did it take so long to find someone who mentioned this lol
@@crazyninja5189 X's fanbase is pretty chill about little oopsies like that and usually don't point them out. Or when we do, it's always in good fun and we have a laugh over it :)
@@crazyninja5189 I don’t know I found it funny too
The concepts are what felt cool and new, this not appearing is just sad. Also about fireflies, mojang should stop worrying about so minute details it’s just a game. Parrots and chocolate i could understand, but that, why remove fireflies entirely ?
What makes their worry weirder is how utterly inconsistent they are about it. Potentially toxic fireflies are not okay for frogs to eat, but cubes of firey slime are? Sharks can't exist because people may get taught the wrong lessons about them scary fish, but axolotls are fine being cute, underwater attack dogs? There is no pattern to what these devs do and don't consider worth paying attention to.
@@remor698 This is precisely why this infuriates me so much. There is _no_ rhyme or reason at all. It's not even like they've adopted this new philosophy and left everything that was added before they adopted it the same. It just makes no sense whatsoever.
I hate to say it, but this whole animal concern thing just became a convenient excuse for them whenever they decided not to add certain mob. Just be honest with your reasonings, provide alternatives, and maybe the community would not be as upset. Other than that, they still did a great job with other features.
Fireflies would have been so good
@@theunknownonetuo2033 yeah completely agree it’s just an easy out. Implementing fireflies seems difficult as that would be taxing due to so many entities. So they called it a day.
Fanbase: So when will you add wilderness into the "The Wild Update"?
Minecraft team: That's the neat part! We don't!
let me remind everyone that everyone hated the firefly when it was first annouced because of lag
Shut up.
@@MapHist What? I have never heard this. Think you might be one of the 5 people who cared
@@MapHist i only saw people complaining that it looked more like particles than an actual mob
There were so many opportunities they could've used, but simply didn't take. Even smaller things like increasing the amount of big oak trees and removing/decreasing birch in an oak forest could be done. Really a shame the wild update was so lacking. Basically it was just Cave Update 3 with swamps.
I'm saying the same as everyone else but I wish they would just take more time and work on more of the features including the birch forest and just add fireflies without frogs eating them. The deep dark plus mangrove is nice and all but one of those was just delayed from the last update so for good heavens Mojang, please just take more time and work on these things.
Best we can do is add another pointless animal
@@TwistedSisler I hope that isn't the case. I'm already getting sick of the mob vote, it either gets rigged or just has pointless mobs
I think the devs would have avoided a lot of this backlash if they didn’t reveal more than they promised back in 2020 initially. The problem is they’ve cultivated really high expectations for content updates and have under delivered with respect to those expectations several times. The updates alone are still good content, but was it what was promised? Definitely not.
The problem is they show off what would be a reasonable single update given they update once a year, then they make us choose 1/3 of it for them to actually work on, and then they actually deliver 1/3 of that... on a good year.
Caves and Cliffs would have been a fine update, but we're three updates on and they're still delivering the basic stuff they promised for that update.
This is supposed to be a wilds update, but the wilds we're getting could be added to the game in under a week by any schmuck, and I'd bet someone experienced could implement it in a single day.
If this were a smaller or newer game, people would be calling them scammers.
@@seigeengine i always wondered, for a game as big as minecraft is, why the developers seem to behave like a small studio.
You’re right on the money that given how quickly these modders can create super expansive and game changing content the size of multiple games, why does it take the mojang devs a so much longer to produce less than a fraction of content like that? I can totally see that
The bigger problem is that the expectations aren't actually high
Any random kid with java knowledge could add those things to the game in a day
Mojang just actively hates the playerbase
Let this not stray you to the fact that mojang has promised us that they'll add a function to the fletching table. They forgot about it
they forget to add many things and wont add things because "bad" while having such things in game and contradicting them selves
They've got the whole development team working double shifts trying to get those warden sonic boom animations just right. Because priorities.
@@awesomeperson5150 It's an obvious and deliberate exaggeration to emphasize a point , it's not supposed to 'make sense'.
i mean, i can cut them a break on that, they never mentioned a timeline for it, just that it would happen.
@@awesomeperson5150 You literally make not sense, it is a joke and it still makes sense rasko is exaggerating their attention to detail on certain aspects that seem less important than others
Touch disappointing that the wild update isn't getting the "wild" part. The Mangrove Swamps are cool but "Wild" in my mind is something that brings more life and atmosphere to the world, like the Birch Forest looked like it would be.
It almost feels like they're trying to get updates out faster, or make up for lost time with the Deep Dark and get that out as people want it. Personally I'd rather they took their time and had the wild update be more... Wild. Ultimately they're doing a great job, it just feels like a letdown to see the potential for these massive updates only to have them contain 2/3 the features expected, when they could implement it all and spend longer going over it.
this update already took forever for the amount of content in it lmfao
Honestly you summed it up perfectly
I would've waited an extra year for the update if they were going to add more stuff, they've hyped up the newer update and it feels like they've lost their edge, their passion for the game, I love the stuff they added, but still, it could've been so much more
The deep dark is really cool looking, don’t get me wrong, but I will probably only go down there once for the compass and never again. The risk/reward ratio is very unbalanced and I just don’t think it’s worth it. Until they add this new portal to hopefully increase the incentive, I’d say even the deep dark is also a little disappointing to me, personally.
I’m just critiquing, will still 100% play the game and enjoy it, I just feel like there are a lot of opportunities Mojang is missing out on.
yea it seems like they missed the most basic memo, Underpromise and overdeliver .. not the otherway around. (for example what would make the adding of the Mangrove swamp biome complete? The atm unused Swamp villager so a swamp village.. as we got new biome related wood AND a new stone substitude the mud bricks.) because they didn't promise that adding that would make the biome feel complete even if they cancelled the fireflies.
Considering that the majority of casual players like me won't be visiting the deep dark anytime soon because of how risky it is to get there, this update means nothing to us.
Would've loved if all this energy was wasted on making simple features the casual players can enjoy, like new biome's and mobs!
Or just actually pulling through with the originally stated plans for this update: To give each biome a more distinctive identity and improve the overall ambience and immersion factor with the swamp and birch forest just being examples in that grander idea.
Exactly! I've only been to a stronghold twice in survival Minecraft, and I probably won't go to Deepdark City that's over 80 blocks underground. I'd much rather have fun exploring new forests, biomes, and interacting with new mobs. I have a feeling that they are making these updates for more advanced players instead of, as you said, more "casual players" that like to play simple.
I'll just stay on 1.18 waiting for abnormals mods and other vanilla upgrading ones.
I wanted fireflies for sooo long. 😕
Just for the AMBIENCE!! (The swamps need those blinking little lights.✨)
Just program the frogs to not eat them. Problem solved.
Literally a lack of code was too much to add.
Now the developers are in A lot of controversy which is deserved don’t make promises you can’t keep don’t your concept art for a presentation where you’re adding features to the game you’re going to just bring hopes up I was really looking forward to the Birch Forest revamp now I’m kinda disappointed this is not the wild update it’s just a swamp update
Not even that. The original swamp stays lacking. They should have considered adding more plants that could grow in both mangrove and normal swamp
@@BlueSodaPop_ Or even just turning the old swamp into the sparse jungle equivalent to the mangrove swamp. Maybe with an updated shape to the swamp oak trees to not just be "basic oak but wide and with vines".
Just download a mod, it’s not that big of a deal
@@smolderiing7166 but that's not the point. Mods don't make up for shitty development decisions
Wild update doesn’t sound very wild when you really think about it….
True
1.15 just had bees
@@prasadbhalerao8556 at least they delivered what they said, which was bees
@@prasadbhalerao8556 it was mainly a bug fix update.
@@prasadbhalerao8556 and the optimization of Minecraft java after the horrible nightmare performance that was 1.13
"We remove fireflies because they're poisonous"
Well it's not like the poison potion kills you anyway
And you can breed chickens like they're mammals
What level of realism are you looking for lmao
They’ll be realistic unless it means they need to put in extra effort
You heard Mojang, time to go buy slime from the nearest Walmart and feed it to frogs.
@@NiknokinaterOr you can feed them literal magma.
"Realism" is just a convenient excuse for when they need it. They are constantly going back and forth with forgetting it and remembering it.
The realism here is very important so kids aren't encouraged to feed fireflies to frogs just for them to get killed. Same reason they made it so cookies poison parrots, kids would feed them to their birds and kill them. I still think fireflies should be in but they should poison frogs instead similar to the cookie and parrot situation, which will teach kids that fireflies should not be fed to frogs. Realism to a degree is good, but there's a balance. There's a big difference between relevant realism and irrelevant realism.
The original vision of the wild update was for it to make the world... . To make it feel alive. I was picturing ambient environmental sound, more atmospheric mobs (like fireflies) and even little birds that would fly around forests (butterflies would be perfect in this game) as well as making individual biomes feel unique. It's a shame.
In my opinion the new mangrove swamp biome is pretty cool, but really underwhelming at the same time. I love the new mangrove wood and mud blocks though! Those are probably the best things in this update, next to all the Sculk and Warden stuff.
Yet it is just super underwhelming to see the actual swamp biome being untouched. I expected from the start that they wouldn't update the birch forest as it was only concept art at MC Live, though the swamp biome was promised to get the new fireflies at least.
I'm not too upset that they won't include the fireflies this update though, as I think their early prototype was really lacking (btw the "it's just 2 pixels!!" argument is pretty dumb. Mojang is really careful to not add useless stuff just for the sake of it. Which is why they cancelled them in the first place).
I am really sad however, that they didn't add or change a single thing in the original swamp biome.
And the whole ambiance enhancements they promised completely fell flat. The mangrove swamp is ironically really lackluster in that sense, it barely has any life to it (things like different sky colours/tints could easily at a lot of ambiance to different biomes. Just like water colours)
I can imagine though, that they have been working really hard behind the scenes on what is probably a new end dimension update. I would be surprised if they didn't already plan way ahead, and I do really expect them to finally adress the end in 1.20 though at the same time I don't want to get my hopes up too much :)
I know! I was disappointed to see how still the mangrove biome was, I thought there would be more movement and an ecosystem look to it
Please don't tell me the mangrove swamp is going to be separate from the swamp we already have.
@@nightC_ It is a separate biome, yes. It's not gonna replace old swamps
I don't get why the fireflies couldn't just be added without frogs eating them.
They can’t pull the concept art card.
The whole ambience/biome improvement thing was THE central promise of this update and they delivered precisely 0 of that.
If they didn’t do Birch fine, but that needed to be substituted with another biome.
(And they very heavily talked specific about the birch implying they would 90
Honestly, I think Mojang shouldn't be promising features they're gonna have to push back. We've yet to see bundles and Archeology. I'm not saying not to do Minecon Live but only mention features you have 100% confidence you can put in the game instead of letting people down
I have now forgot about archeology lmao
They can’t do that because then they’d have nothing to present.
Cancel Minecraft live at this point if they can't show future update features they shouldn't do the damn thing at all like who gives a fuck about concept art
@@sammann3577 Not to mention that concept arts look better than the actual implementations of them inside the game!
i fucking hate Archeology. just conceptually. it fucking sucks
Even though they don’t want to add fireflies for frog food, there are a thousand other things that they can be put in the game for. The concept of fireflies isn’t a recent discussion, it’s been on some players’ minds (like mine) for years before they teased it on the live. I’ve seen some really cool ideas for fireflies that aren’t even just for ambience.
Kind of disappointing that, in the best case scenario, fireflies will be going back to the drawing board. Missed opportunity for this update, but what can you do 🤷♂️
I kinda annoyed at the decision for frogs to not eat fireflies. Just because some frogs cannot eat some fireflies in real life doesn’t mean they can’t do it in Minecraft which is a fictional game that takes place in a fantasy world.
It honestly confuses me in the direction they want to take the game.
@@sofareader I somewhat agree. I can understand not wanting to teach kids to feed their parrots chocolate, but what kid is going to go out and try riding a dolphin after playing Minecraft? I mean frogs eat flies, so I don’t think anyone is going to care if they eat fireflies in Minecraft.
I just think it’s weird for them to say “it’s not realistic for frogs to eat fireflies” in the same update that a blind monster made of black goo can shoot supersonic soundwaves through your soul.
@@angrychicken7097 Teah. They push this idea that they seriously care for the potential of animal abuse, in a game where you still get an achievement for riding a pig off a cliff to its death.
@@godofthecripples1237 I thought they removed that when they changed achievements to advancements?
@@angrychicken7097 I could be wrong, I've never heard about that. I play on Bedrock and we still have achievements, but I don't know how closely they line up with the advancements.
This is the first time im actually kinda angry at mojang for not adding thease features in the update after they clearly promised them to us.
I'm more dissapointment than mad
@@ioniiKxFreeZeX I'm more disgusted, personally. This is at the level of outright fraud now.
The fact that they straight up cancelled fireflies after being told that they're not frog food rather than at least adding them as like an ambient particle is getting people really upset and calling Mojang lazy (especially since this leads to people saying that they can't even code 2 pixels in the game)
They even already have particle effects, just make them that right???
Mojang is a woke company no wonder they can’t do anything
Man do I miss notch.
@@bencilsharpie7567 man it dont know how either of those things came up but let the rest of youtube know i dont agree with the last two comments
I am grateful for the free updates, I purchased this game years ago and they're still updating it with new things. Side note, the number of pixels in a diffuse texture has virtually no correlation with how complex it is to "code" (I think you meant program).
Fireflies shouldn't have been removed just make frogs not eat them. The last updates are just empty, always promising too much and never delivering half of it
That’s exactly what I was thinking
They just add hollow content inside the game, it looks nice and well developed from the outside, but if someone really understands the game, they will sooner or later realize how little content is actually added with each update
@@tamas9554 exactly
Update Aquatic was mostly decorative but there were good things like tridents.
Village and Pillage was close to perfect, loads of actually useful and interesting content with the only real negative being the whole fletching table thing.
1.15 was always meant to be a small update so not much to say.
The Nether Update was somewhere in between 1.13 and 1.14, a bunch of useful stuff but also a lot of really useless things but I like that, not absolutely everything needs purpose but make it still worthwhile.
Caves and Cliffs is where shit really hits the fan though, tons of cut features and we got a lot of items and blocks of which only 5% are actually useful for anything.
And finally the Wild Update which is just Caves and Cliffs but smaller.
It's an excuse they're using to justify themselves in being lazy, as always.
@@thetabbyguy921 All of the previous updates were dissapointing to some degree, I think this shows how Mojang's updates really are
their reasoning neglecting fireflies seemed a little odd. why can’t mojang make them a particle effect like the spore blossoms in the lush cave - simply for aesthetics - and have no relation to the frogs? missed opportunity imo
Looks like Doc was right, this update is going to be one of the more disappointing ones. Sad we had to wait a whole year for frogs, a pointless hostile mob and a new biome
If the problem of the fireflies was that in real life they are venomous to frogs then why not make them be just particles in the swamps?You would have the ambiance function they were supposed to serve,wouldn't get eaten by frogs and also wouldn't fill the entity count
To me this update ended up quite lacklusting,we don't really have the "wild" part
I hope that is because 1.20 will be really big like some people pointed out
Because that was just an excuse for not putting fireflies into the game. The real reason we might never know.
All I can think of is they don’t want to add mobs that don’t do anything. But then again, they added axolotls which, while very cute, are completely useless.
@@omeganave7425 Untrue, Axolotls are aquatic wolves. They assist in killing underwater hostile mobs.
Ever since 1.16 the updates have just been letdown after letdown. Teasing all kinds of features that get nixed or delayed. This game is in terrible need of things that move around and animate the world. It would have been easy to just make fireflies an ambiance thing.
It seems like they're worried about including incorrect information in a game now pitched as a children's educational tool, but 99% of the user base either don't care about or love the "video game logic" in Minecraft.
1.19 will always be the 'Mild Update' to me.
Mid update
1.19 is truly one of the updates in Minecraft
@@Nugcon
It sure has some of the content of all time
😂👌
Mild update for not adding a 2 pixel mob? Jesus Christ it’s not a big deal.
Can't wait for 1.20 to just be bundles, archeology, and one other feature from some past vote! I'm so excited for Caves & Cliffs: Part 4...
/s obviously
You don’t need that /s
You aren’t wrong
That is literally what I am expecting to see happen at this point.
**archeology part 1 of 4
LMAO! archeology, totally forgot about this mess. God, Mojang has lost the plot.
@@adud6764 I'll do you one better: Fletching tables.
Imagine you would have been able to catch fire flies in bottles and place them as a light source like candles. And feeding them to a frog would poison them just like cookies do by parrots.
Hope 1.20 will deliver more stuff. I like what's in 1.19 but it loses its novelty kinda fast once you see the few biomes it added unlike 1.18 which only added 3 but created lots of natural variation. I know they're not comparable and it was gonna be a smaller update but it would've been nice to see a bit more
We're still catching up on things promised in 1.17. Every update has become 40% of the promised update, with the other 40% moving to the next update, and 20% just hanging.
Where's my archaeology Mojang
Obviously they don't "want" to push features away or remove them and I doubt they're lazy like everyone keeps saying (considering they seem to be passionate about the game), but yeah it's pretty annoying when all you see is rehashes of already announced content and people have to wait months just to see if the next update will be similar
@@dashinking Well yes, the problem is that all the excitement is gone by the time we get it 2 updates later. Maybe they should be more conservative in what they commit to.
This upcoming update really doesn't deserve "The Wild Update" title.
I've seen it referred to the "Mild Update" a bunch now and I think that's a really fitting rebrand for how mediocre it actually is shaping up to be.
@@remor698 funnily enough i actually commented that in the recent "Ask Mojang" video
this update sound more like the pretty scary update part 2.
I'm not disappointed with the announcement since I expected that anyway.
All I think is, Mojang might have a better time going back to annual updates instead of 2 updates per year. It seems like a win win for both the developers and the player base
The annual updates weren't that much bigger than the bi yearly one
Apparently what they should do is fire everybody and this time employ people who actually do work.
@@seigeengine I don't think its the devs being lazy, more them being limited by the bedrock development team having to catch up (bedrock is a complete mess) and microsoft micro-managing them and controlling what they get to add and not add. The decision to not include fireflies because they are poision to only SOME real life frogs seems like a move a manager who is scared by the slight possiblity of public backlash of any kind might make.
I'd love it if the Minecraft team surprised us with additions to updates that they HAVEN'T revealed in snapshots so that there's some actual surprised when a release is launched. Nothing too big, maybe a new block type, or include a mob varient from the adventure version, or a simple tree type. Take the swamp update. What if in addition to the Mangroves, they also added Cypress trees for another new wood type, with brown-green bark. It wouldn't have to have any complex growing mechanism or design. Maybe just the same shape as a couple of azaleas or acacias stacked on top of one another in alternate directions.
Bam! Players are casually exploring the new biome and come across these and there's this rush of excitement when they come across something totally unexpected.
Its quite weird they didn't keep the fireflies they don't need to give purpose
Even that one interaction with frogs would be barely be considered a purpose in my book, they should've kept them in anyway since it changes so little, just to add some atmosphere to Minecraft worlds since it feels pretty barren most of the time. The devs are usually on point and haven't delivered content that has disappointed me in a while, hope things change in the future, because 1.19 just isn't that noteworthy to me. Especially once you consider the Warden and presumably the Deep dark were due for 1.17.
@@ItsBossMan Agreed, I think that frogs giving just another light block is not really new content.
I think they could just add some atmospheric mobs into the game like fireflies, they don't even need a gameplay use, they would be there for just the sake of the outlooks
@@tamas9554 Especially when the frog lamp, an almost purely cosmetic block, is locked behind the more than likely frustrating task of getting either a frog into the nether and to a tiny magma cube or the tiny magma cube out of the nether and to the frog. Few will know to do that and fewer will even want to do that once they know about the feature.
@@remor698 Same with prismarine, having an entire structure be cleared underwater just for the sake of some decoration blocks, really?
I used a browser extension to see the dislikes on the latest ask mojang.
Theres 26,000 likes and 17,000 dislikes on it
They should listen to feedback
Next update will be the “Archeology” update they will just add a feature that they promised 2 years ago and delay the actual update
I feel like the main reason the recent updates have been weirder is just because of the way it used to work when it was a smaller team. When it was only a few people working on it, the updates were much more varied with one or two cool but unrelated things added.
But since Microsoft bought the game there has been about 1 pretty big, heavily themed update a year. And while that has its benefits it also can lead to us feeling like not much is going on, and also I’m sure ideas were cut in old updates before we saw anything of them, but now we see full trailers and concept art over a year in advance which makes it feel like we were robbed when ideas we were shown don’t make it to the end
With Minecraft being such an enormous game it seems like the development team just isn't big enough to deliver the updates that the community want, which is a big shame.
Feels more like an issue with not understanding what they should focus on. When they spend so much time and energy on stuff like the allay and warden in response to what a handful of technical players are saying, it feels like they're neglecting the vast majority of us out here who just want a few basic additions to make the world feel more varied and animated and alive.
Minecraft is only enormous because (a) the worlds are procedural, so they can be as big as your device’s storage can get by using noise maps, and (b) it’s had the past 13 years of updates.
If they did something like the game Kerbal Space Program 2, where a majority of _all the content in the game_ is either brand new or rebuilt from the ground up, then I could see your point. But that’s not the case with this specific update.
Its not a problem with the team's size, its about their lack of understanding what the game needs
@@alexsiemers7898 i think they ment enormous as in player size and influence
They're really running out of excuses when one guy in his mom's basement with a part time job can churn out more QUALITY and none buggy content in a month than Mojang can in a year. I guarantee if you asked some B rated modder to make fireflies, he could do it under 4 days. If you asked him to update the birch biome, give him a month and it'll be amazing.
Is the game literally breaking between updates or something? Does every feature that they add just break the game?
"and so at Minecraft Live 2001" 6:12
I guess that 10 year anniversary was actually a 20 year anniversary.
X being a derp
In addition to my other comment, I'm really struggling to understand why the Dev Team is having so many difficulties with adding the things that their player base is clearly asking for. Changing some Birch Forest generation and adding a couple more blocks really doesn't feel like it's that difficult to code properly into the game. I understand that the Warden has been a big deal for them, balancing it all has to be fairly hard. But some biome generation/ new block textures seem pretty innocuous and simple to implement.
My suspicion is longevity to keep their jobs to be honest. I think they are just dripping tiny things out of the bucket over years stringing the player base along so that they can still justify their positions in the company to Microsoft.
@@TwistedSisler But I mean, they could feasibly put out a full size update every year until the end of time. If they don't put it out fast enough, people will walk away.
@@espeterson522 I want to agree with you there, but sadly I think the player base of Minecraft is far beyond them having to worry about that. The largest demographic of players are not people that are too concerned with proper development updates and just play it for what it is or are otherwise too young to care and there are millions of them. I think Mojang knows that and by the way they make their announcements and showcases geared more toward a younger crowd I think they know exactly what they are doing.
@@TwistedSisler wtf this makes no sense lmao
I am not saying they shouldn't add it
But its simply NOT as simple as you make it out to be lol
So...remember when they said they'd revisit old biomes and begin with the Swamp? Welp, they didn't change anything and just added a brand new biome and left the Swamp unchanged. :/
What if you could put fireflies in empty lanterns? And empty lanterns would be cool item to have and you just right click on it with any torch in your hand to light it. And you could maybe right click the empty lantern in your hand on a firefly and you could get green/yellow lanterns 😮
Ohhh good idea
It took ten years to get them to add a chest to a boat. Don't get your hopes up.
Sadly the light's color wouldn't change along with it
Had the idea of wooden lanterns, dedicated for fireflies, but this could also work. Especially since it adds more functionality to an already existing item.
Putting fireflies in jars/lanterns also kill them
It’s so cathartic to finally see the fan base calling Mojang out on their laziness
I know right? People's eyes have finally been opened.
I thought the caves and cliffs update was disappointing, look at this mud update
Finally. I hope this gets forced massively. Should have done that when 1.17 or at least 1.18 got released tho.
@@mohammadazad8350 1.19: Mud & Shit Update. (literally)
It seems like they've spent most of their time with this update focusing on minor tweaks to two mobs (the warden and the allay) that most players really aren't going to interact with much. They keep changing and adjusting stuff in response to what a handful of technical players want while most of us out here are like "so what about those cool birch trees and maybe a few more passive atmospheric mobs?"
one thing I'm starting to notice is how mojang are obsessed with adding "cute" mobs (panda, fox, axolotl, frog) which don't do anything, yet they refuse to add fireflies which also do nothing
Don't forget bats and wolves as they are just meat shields that last like 3 hits.
I don't really know how I feel about this update now. Doesn't really seem that "wild". Sure there is another biome and the deep dark, but it doesn't really seem to have enough content that would be considered wild or wilderness/exploration.
So….what ARE they adding at this point? All of the exciting new things have just been removed, and the only good things in the update now are things that had been delayed from like a year ago
I'm starting to get tired of Mojang backing out of features. They're a full-fledged studio, they really need to understand that they need to be honest about what they're going to add from the beginning.
Yeah, the Ask Mojang video summed up this update pretty well. It was around 80% of people asking why features weren't included or why they took so long as compared to mods of much larger scales. And the Mojang employees were basically like, "yeah, that's cool. Be happy with what we're spoon-feeding you." 😑
An easy way to blow their whole "we have higher quality standards" line out of the water is just comparing village and pillage to tektopia. The whole of Mojang's hundreds strong, dedicated, fulltime dev team vs one guy going parttime solo. While his artstyle doesn't quite blend perfectly into vanilla Minecraft, that is just about the only point his mod loses to the official update and they both did their work in a very similar timeframe.
@@remor698 I do understand that designing for Minecraft is a much more difficult task than many of us realize but even with that said. This whole "our standards of quality are incredibly high" sharade they've been putting on is getting ridiculous.
You can't tell me the recovery compass wasn't thought out and made within a couple days.
Why add the compass. One approach is, accessibility. So why lock it behind the latest game content where at which point you'll be geared and experiencend enough where dying is not a huge issue. Approach number 2 is that it serves to remedy trying to find your items in the deep dark. This makes more sense but even then the compass has no way to indicate height and for it to be useful at all it'll have to be sitting in a chest next to your bed or in an ender chest. Why did they feel the need to add this when there's years of promised content still waiting.
In alot of ways it feels like Minecraft in a design aspect is at a breaking point.
@@dice.s8133 Minecraft's design process is an interesting one to begin with, because I am getting the feeling, that the devs are working on the basis of a category error. They are designing Minecraft as a sandboxy adventure game, but roughly everything I see the playerbase do is treating the game as just a sandbox, letting the survival aspects work at most like a minor inconvenience for them. That is why, at least from what I can tell, most updates lose their intruige after a week or so, whereas something like 1.18, where the actual sandbox space got increased dramatically, is still getting people inspired with new ideas.
Plus, if you were to try playing Minecraft as just an adventure game, you'd find the game severely lacking on almost all fronts. Cheese is the norm, build diversity does not exist and pve combat is very straightforward and therefore pretty bland.
I've found, that the thing, that keeps Minecraft alive isn't Mojang. It is the game's community and what they create with the game as just a foundation. The best way for Mojang to ensure this activity persists or even increases would be by not focussing so much on creating their own vision of the world, but support the community with the means to make the world theirs, as that is what the community has been doing since the very beginning.
The optimal state of affairs, I think, would be for mods to be put on the same level as the current world of Minecraft itself, same level of accessibility, same means of working on them. Mojang can still do their thing with that world, but their every decision wouldn't be imposed on every player and creator of Minecraft content, like is the case right now. Their main job, however, should be to make the basic foundation, everybody would be working with, as stable and solid as possible, meaning a lot less effort would need to be spent on keeping mods up to date.
It's an unreasonably drastic change, I think, but it is a direction, that would suit Minecraft much better than the one it is headed in right now.
@@remor698 Very well said. I feel as if Mojang has always had this very passive aggressive relationship with modders. Almost contempt. More times than I can count they try to make modding harder while trying to push them towards in game tools. It just feels like a slap in the face. The RUclips community played a huge part in making Minecraft impolde in popularity and most of that content, involved mods. Modding has become part of Minecrafts identity but yet they act like it's almost something to be ashamed of.
@@remor698 although it does seem like they've slowly made steps to accommodate the modding community recently, they still need to fully embrace it.
Honestly, while I like the Deep Darkness and the new Mangrove Swamp, being frank this update is looking a little disappointing. I mean besides those two being the main parts of the update, we have a total of 3 new mobs, a couple of fairly useless and bad items... And that's it. I really hope Mojang improves this update somehow, as if it goes through like this, it's going to be severely under delivering.
A shame they aren't adding any of those. Better birch forest would have been so much cooler, we need more biome variations. And they could have introduced fireflies anyways as an ambiance particle and have the frogs not interact with them. It would have been a win-win since 2 pixel entities would have been a nightmare. This update is shaping to be a lacking one in all honesty, even more with this two loses. Mojang needs to step it up.
No, fireflies should be a mob.
I'm tired of people saying Shame/shame all the timeeeeeeeeeeeee
@@tanner201x8 No, it shouldn't. It would only cause lag and have no real purpose. They would be really problematic for the game as a whole.
@@jjdomenc28
Wrong, fireflies should be a mob.
I would love to see shroom shelves able to spawn on birch trees like in the concept art, it would be so atmospheric!
And it’s not like it’s so tough to add... one 3D model like the existing cocoa beans, and even use the same spawning mechanics... could definitely be done in one evening
@@marcelburdon9795 And yet they won't just to make it look hard while they earn millions just by sitting and having coffe in their million dollar studio
What I liked about the birch forest concept art was the hollow tree stump on the ground.
It was giving me ideas of a pipe shaped building block.
i wonder if we would be able to strip hollow logs too
To make up for this I’d hope that they take some of the biome updates apart of the biome vote that didn’t win and start adding those features in it would be small but it would make this update feel like the “wild” update
sheesh, Mojang are really starting to lack on their promises. What an absolute shame... Guess we'll have to wait for datapacks and fabric mods to add these things
Play biomes o plenty then lol
@@dashinking Not everyone has a beefy computer that can run that mod.
@@ArturoPladeado My laptop sucks and it still runs it. As long as you don't have like a billion entities and machines running I think it's fine
I don't really understand the problem with the fireflies. Couldn't they have added them without having the frogs eat the fireflies?
Same thing with parrots.
It's not like they removed cookies when Mojang realized chocolate is dangerous to parrots.
Exactly. Thy can add useless mobs like the polar bear but apparently they can’t have ambient two pixels.
Wait, they didn't want fireflies to be poisonous to some frogs, so their solution was to remove the fireflies from the wild update entirely? Why not just....NOT make them poisonous?
They are poisonous irl not minecraft ig they didnt want kids to go catch fireflies and feed them to frogs
And the solution couldve just veen to make frogs not eat them
I feel like mojang should stop with the yearly release stuff, they stretch themselves too thin and ultimately disappoint people with broken promises, yes it’s cool to get new stuff yearly but it’d be cooler to get gigantic updates every 2-3 years or so
This is the most negative ive seen the mc community since 1.9. However i know its from a place of love... for the most part.
Weird how it's also got a 9 in the version number.
Seems like Mojang is still having commitment issues, hope they figure it all out :)
It's taken 3 updates to make the Cave and Cliff update and we still don't have bundles or archeology which were also promised.
I have no hope for the Wild Update, whenever they actually decide to make that
They should rename it to the "Bogs and Boogeyman update" since all it does is add the spooky warden and swamp biome improvements.
At this point I would love the updates to take at least 9 to 12 months instead, so many things are getting delayed it's going to continue to sour everyone on each and every update. "Delayed Features Update: Part 1" coming in 2024, bringing a third of the promised and delayed features from the past few updates, with Part 2 only 3 years out : )
The most wild thing about this update is Mojang's audacity to keep just stringing their player base along with miniscule updates and then cut half of that out saying it was never promised.
Fireflies could be added just as particle effects in swamps
You can add fireflies and not have the frogs eat them thou. I think they would be a neat ambient addition to swamps
At this point the update should just be renamed to something like “Sculks and Swamps”
They need to give themselves more time and actually get their ducks in a row, just say your working on it and shut out the people who are getting antsy. Or do a 'wild arc' instead and focus in on biome and beast expansion even if that means small updates. Gives them a chance to add in the mobs that didn't win the vote. I know there's pressure to get an update out every year but look at pokemone, they're churning out games every few years and older fans see parts of it suffering too.
Man… this update is gonna be disappointing if this is all they add, it will be a deep dark city that has no reason to go there for how dangerous it is, and a mangrove biome that does not look really great and lacks ambience because there will be no fireflies.
This is gonna change pretty much nothing.
Especially considering what the last update did for the landscape and what the update before that ultra upgraded the nether(imo the best minecraft update so far) and then before even that one they massively improved villages. What a step down from the expected quality
@@IHateSmilingFriendsTheTVShow Im not so much mad at the existence of a smaller update... smaller updates between larger ones are good, they give the devs and the community some time to breath. I am more dissapointed that this was supposed to be the "wild" update. Most minecraft biomes feel outdated and boring, lacking unique features, ambience, and reasons to explore there especally when compared to any new biome. An update with the name the "wild" update should do more then just add one biome and a new structure, it should be the overworld update that makes all biomes interesting again. Mojang did a good job of making the cave biomes interesting, they revamped the taiga biome and the mountain biomes very well, I was hoping they would extend this but no. We have years of promised content from the biome votes which would have been PERFECT for this update, but at this point it is pretty obvious that the biome vote features are never coming. The "wild" update feels the like the tamest update we have gotten in years.
I can't believe there are so mamy parity issues between Bedrock and Java that would be easily fixed, like CROSSBOW DURABILITY, but now they won't add bundles, a feature they've had in the game for ages because they haven't worked out how Bedrock will do it.
Oof, not enjoying the amount of negativity this update is causing in the fandom, but I do agree the fireflies being cancelled is really disappointing. They just had to code out frogs eating them and they could have kept the fireflies as ambience like the spore blossom particles. I LOVE the spore particles because they make the world feel more alive--kinda like bats make caves feel more alive. Fireflies could have served a similar purpose....providing some ambience and life. Like normally I don't like calling Mojang lazy because they give us some really good updates for free...but that just makes this even more disappointing considering fireflies are like 2 pixels each....
To be fair, alot of us are tired of Mojang's bs and just calling them out on it. But I do agree.
Unpopular Opinion:
To be honest, I think this update wiill be a disapointment, the wild update just does not include close to what a wild update should include. And this is a Problem all updates since aquatic had.
Overall, I think Updates should expand the survival gameplay and make it more fun to play or add content to it.
1.13 Update Aquatic:
Even through the ocean looks way better than before, there is not really a reason to go there 99% of the loot table in the ocean is not exclusive to it and a lot of times easier to get in other places, just the heart of the sea is unique. But to be honest, I can not remember building a conduit once since the update. But hey, we got sea pickles.
1.14 Village and Pillage:
The goal was to make villages more pretty ant to remake the trading as well as the behavior system of villagers and the update did what it promised. I think it was the second best one of these 4 major updates 1.13, 1.14, 1.16 and 1.17/18. We got a lot of new interactive blocks like the stone cutter or the smiting table which is great but in terms of the villagers I see a lot of wasted potential in terms of behavior as well as Warden like animations when they do their work. I am talking about actual fishing fisherman as well as smiting blacksmiths. The new designs of the houses are fine, but could be more fitting in size as well as to the individual profession they were made for. We also do not talk about the generation of some village inside mountains with bad road connection, making the whole village unrealistic and not good dlooking.
Skipping Buzzy Bees, for obvious reasons, could have been used for increasing the performance on java as well if doable.
1.16 The Nether Update:
Somewhat a repetition of the Aquatic update. First, the nether looks a lot better tan before the update, and we even got a new type of armor and tools which is mega great! But no new bosses, the Fortress still looks bad and generates horrible, and a new kind of mob that can be used to trade with which is especially useful in speed running.But theyyy live in ugly black boxes with a few exclusive items that are just sometimes worth visiting these bastions (wasted potential). Also, Nether portal Synchronizations still has to be done with a calculator. But hey we got Striders, which I saw being used in Dreams manhunts, guess that's the only reason for their existence.
And finally, the Cave and Cliffs update 1.17/18:
When I saw the first announcement trailer, I was expecting Minecraft caves to turn into 3d Terraria caves and I could swear I was not the only one, as well as better terrain generation. The terrain generation is fine, it looks better than ever the only problem I still face is the generation of micro biomes, not as small as they used to be at first but still too small to be considered normal size. So here comes the underground. We got huge caves offering massive potential as I said potential that could ave been used for 3d Terraria content. But the final snapshots arrived, and the massive caves just stayed empty. The ore generation made the walls even more flat because less ore kinds show up at different highs. Again, so much potential for cave biomes: Ice, sand, lava, whatever. We got the lush caves, yes, and I say that's the best part about the caves and the only place that is not boring but interesting to explore The wide variety of new block also offered a huge amount of uses for landscaping and decorating for the builders, so why did we just get one. I could go on with no new ores and I mean really new ones not just deep slate redesigns and no new bosses. Dungeons as well as mine shafts which got some changes stayed the same for the most part. Spoiler the are ugly as well.
Overall, I feel like the devs got cool ideas for updates, but halfway through they lose interest in them and just releasing the update half way finished. They promised us archeologies 1.17 then said it is in 1.18 than its in 1.19, and now we are reaching the bug fix snapshots for 1.19, and it is still not there. If they release the WILD update as it is right now with close to 0 changes except one new extremely rare biome with all others untouched, it will by far be the worst recent update.
There are so many talented players in the minecraft community, I would appreciate mojang to use that creativity to make Minecraft the best game in can be.
Thank u for reading my comment,
may be share your opinion on how you feel about these updates with me
I would definitely be interested.
Your opinion is not very unpopular, because its true. Mojang has great ideas, but doesn't know how to execute them properly. And also the update's content is just contentless, its empty, hollow. Like you said, they add a new fancy biome, but it doesn't have any function. I think the most annoying part is that they actually care about the game, they just don't know what it needs.
The two main things I was looking forward to in this update were cancelled, I was hoping that the birch forest would bring new flowers and vegetation types and would be a good pair with the fireflies to create a magical sort of biome. I feel like this is just caves and cliffs part 3 cos we are really only getting new features for goats and the deep dark. Mangrove feels incomplete without the fireflies
1.20 better be something huge, otherwise I genuinely might start playing some older versions.
Mojang haven't been on top of their game lately.
Edit: I already play Alpha and Beta but I might consider playing some older release versions too if the updates continue to disappoint.
Mojang: "Promise something, wont deliver" is sadly what they have become. In the end, you can't really complain since every update is free and don't require you to do anything. But even still, it's super disappointing that they never deliver what's promised, and only makes fans frustrated with the lack of content. It's getting to the point for me, where I just simply don't care about the development anymore. I only watch these update videos because you're an amazing creator and have a good structure in these types of videos!
Honestly I was hoping they'd surprise us later on in the update by reworking more biomes than the Birch Forest, seeing these updates absent now is really disappointing.
1.20 should be a catchup update (catch-update?). Where they go back and re-add all the features that they haven't added yet. All the promised features are kinda just piling up so I think I'd be nice to catch up on them all.
I once saw someone call this the "Mild Update"... and now I couldn't agree more. I know we usually have to wait long amounts of time for small features in updates (Especially during the 1.5 to 1.12 days.) but I feel like the features between updates have been so big before the cave update; like the Ocean and Neather updates were amazing, Village and Pillage added more then people give it credit for, and BEES! I know Majang is doing a lot of work on the updates; making sure they preform well and such; I just wish this Mild Update gave what I felt like it kinda promised.
I love the releases every half year but i wish that they would took more time
And do what only kingbdogz added something deep dark half of the developers just getting paid for doing the bare minimum
@@sammann3577 Uh, in case you didn't know, you can't have all the devs working in the game at the same time, that's not how development works
This is why they are split among Bedrock and Java
I don't know for how long that i have been watching you, Xis. I love when you post these snapshot vids, they are so useful!
Tldr: Love where Minecraft is going. Update older biomes before adding new ones. Improve structures like dungeons. Stop showing concept art if it's not going to be added.
I love the way Mojang are taking the game as of the recent years, they're listening to the community more and brining us brilliant updates.
But it annoys me that we have out-dated biomes and structures in the games such as deserts and dungeons. They need to stop adding new biomes and new structures until they re-vamp the old ones imo.
Love the deep dark, love the new swamp biome but Minecraft dungeons are very out-dated. They should have changed them in the caves and cliffs update and why they didn't is beyond me tbh. How can you update caves and not dungeons when they go hand in hand? Dungeons of varying difficulty would have been amazing along side the deep dark and the warden. Dungeons arent really dungeons, you see one, kill a few mobs, light it up and get a saddle and a bit of iron. They don't have a purpose. Early game XP farms sure but they're not really dungeons imo.
Deserts and birch forests and many other biomes are crying out to be updated. Deserts could have oasis that spawn and have cool mobs, sand storms, proper desert temples and pyramids etc. Why are they adding new biomes into the game when there are biomes there that could be updated and improve the game just as much if not more than new biomes? Don't get me wrong I love the new swamp biome but it's disappointing to see older biomes get the short end of the stick.
It's also really disappointing when they show concept art and get hype up in the community just to pull it from under us. Fire flys were going to be one of those small features yes but would have improved the ambience to the nth degree! To me they're primary function was ambience and secondary was that frogs eat them. Just because frogs can't eat them why remove them? What sense does that make? Parrots can't eat cookies but they didn't remove cookies or parrots. Double standards by Mojang.
If you love where minecraft is going then you must really like being disappointed by things that were promised and talked about for a long time never being implemented.
I hate that they didn't even update the swamp, just added another variant. Could've at least added a few tweaks to the original
@@meowtain9566 Very true, even an updated witches hut would have been nice, cat tails or some other vegetation
welp, truly the only thing *i myself* was waiting to see was the wild part of the wild update. such as fireflies flying around swamps and giant birch forests filled with life and bees and plants an- sorry, i was fascinating about it for a second, but i digress; i really hope they listen to the community and take more time on this to actually include the wild section of the already-split-in-half wild update
I feel like ever since Minecraft became popular again back in 2019, they have tried to keep the community excited. But later they realized the things they announced were easier said than done. Take Caves and Cliffs. Initially there was going to be archeology and the deep dark, and so many other cool stuff, but they ended up overcomplicating on terrain, world height, and some more stuff. Making the update better (or at least that what they thought). In their video about the update split, the Mojang team vented about being too difficult and stressful to get these features working in the game, and the pressure on the community didn't help. They needed some time. Not like this hadn't happened before, although in times where Minecraft was kind of dead. The update was well received, the very best for some even! Still, many things were left out or delayed in Caves and Cliffs. Let's go back to Minecraft Live 2021. They tried to build up the hype again with the Wild Update. Massive atmospheric features, biome revamps and of course, fireflies! But apparently they only got to put half of it on the final cut. Hyped features are disproportionate to the time to add them, which led to disappointment in many of us. Maybe they are stressed and pressured just like a year ago. Maybe it's just pure laziness and fake promises. Either way, I hope they overcome it and make the Wild Update we all waited for. With better organization, help from others, or just a little more... time.
Anyway, that's my opinion. Thank you for reading!
5:56 You accidentally named the chapter as "Fireflys in 1.9" instead of fireflys in 1.19.
6:13 I can believe the update was announced 20 years ago, time really flies!
I really hope that mojang stop giving us hype over many items and features in their update special videos. If they couldn't do it or manage to do it they just don't show it to us until they have completed their progress over the part. Mojang take your time and rest but don't give us hype over the things which you might remove from the update later.
Given the recent "secret event at Mojang" incident over on twitter, it seems safe to assume, that the devs simply don't understand what it means to be a public figure and say stuff with eagerness and/or confidence. It is perfectly understandable to be giddy over your own ideas and work, but putting that same energy out in public will hopelessly overhype whatever you are working on, especially when it is as volatile as game development likes to be.
@@remor698 I mean yeah they should first work on something for years if not then months before giving us hype about adding. Bundles were quite hyped to help us with inventory management... Removed
Archeology...removed
Caves and cliffs...broken in 2 parts
Deep dark.... Delayed to wild update
Fireflies... Removed
Birch forest (concept art which they said they are working on adding in 1.19)..... Not added.