Fake African Prince Tricked White Woman Into Marriage Then THIS Happened... | Peter Lobengula

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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    PT Barnum along with his business partner James Anthony Bailey ran what is arguably the most well known traditional circus that ever existed. It was founded in 1907. But during that era, The Barnum & Bailey Circus wasn’t the ONLY circus in existence.
    One of the lesser-known circuses of that time was founded by British showman, Frank Fillis. He had a circus company that toured throughout most of the world, but focused mainly on the United Kingdom and colonies of the British Empire. And it was in one of those colonies, South Africa, where he came up with the idea of an exhibition that he would name Savage South Africa.
    He brought the act to Britain in 1899 - 8 years before the Barnum & Bailey Circus ever existed. But this story isn’t about Frank Fillis or his circus. It’s about one of his South African circus performers and the dreadful relationship that he had with a Cornish piano teacher who was in over her head where he was concerned. Peter Lobengula and Florence Kitty Jewell. If ANYONE from that time period wanted to make a case against interracial marriages, they needed only to look to this couple’s shenanigans as anecdotal evidence to prove their point. This relationship was…so bad AND so scandalous. Just the way we like it here!
    Let’s get into it.
    It's another Hot Mess History scandal from Ti Said What Ti Said. I hope that you enjoy it!

Комментарии • 966

  • @TisHotMessHistory
    @TisHotMessHistory  2 года назад +48

    If you want to check out ALL of the Hot Mess History scandals like this one on this channel, enjoy this playlist:
    ruclips.net/p/PLJTOm-WxzySlEyGe8lKcPx_P5e2-k2wkx

    • @nabiya__
      @nabiya__ 2 года назад +2

      I'd just like to know what the background music is please.

    • @anthonyjohnson3217
      @anthonyjohnson3217 2 года назад +1

      I subscribed, I love true history

    • @shatycruz5386
      @shatycruz5386 2 года назад

      I just looked through your whole line up of video downloads and I gotta say it seems like you are on of those people that either hate your own or maybe you are not the person in that picture because all of your videos seem to depict black men in a negative light so it’s either cracker or Oreo or maybe a crakereo idk you tell me

    • @shatycruz5386
      @shatycruz5386 2 года назад

      You catfishing the way you speak it’s like I hear white thoughts and ideas coming out of your mouth that is disgusting in 2022 don’t like what you see in the mirror smh

    • @wfs4227
      @wfs4227 Год назад

      I looked this up and I saw the marriage application. It shows : STATUS and under him it says " bachelor." For her it says " spinster!" What would they call me since I'm pass 22?😐

  • @aiaimonkey9085
    @aiaimonkey9085 2 года назад +822

    As someone who writes history, what makes history interesting isn't how different our ancestors were from us, it's realizing that they were just as messy 😂😂😂. Humans are a mess today because we've ALWAYS been that way lmao.

    • @latoyaparks7249
      @latoyaparks7249 2 года назад +54

      I was telling my mom the same thing the other day…. People talk about how we(blacks) had so much class etc… when in reality ain’t nothing changed but the times…

    • @aiaimonkey9085
      @aiaimonkey9085 2 года назад +46

      @@latoyaparks7249 essentially, and it's universal (not race specific). Since the days of old, ancestors have been used to virtue signal, dating back to ancient times. It's human nature in many ways to believe that those who came before us were somehow more righteous and virtuous.

    • @ominathisithole6755
      @ominathisithole6755 2 года назад +8

      😂😂😂😂

    • @martintanksley3561
      @martintanksley3561 2 года назад

      Dead people TOLD no tales: surely they were NOT the Waltons, that' for sure....

    • @SagesseNoir
      @SagesseNoir 2 года назад +27

      @@noirenaturel7797 Going back to the 1960s when i was growing up: We had no drive by shootings. Well....white gangsters did that to each other, and white supremacists in the south did drive by shootings and bombings. But at lease we didn't do this to EACH OTHER.

  • @cosmicneuromelanatedgoddess
    @cosmicneuromelanatedgoddess 2 года назад +193

    OLD TEA IS THE BEST TEA, BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU REALIZE WHY THE PRESENT DAY IS AS F***** UP AS IT IS!!!!

  • @mjbankhead9063
    @mjbankhead9063 2 года назад +379

    …so Kitty’s family was considered “whyte trash” and Peter was a dusty….got it! 👍🏾
    Good video! 😊

    • @lynnellscott9079
      @lynnellscott9079 2 года назад +30

      😂😂😂 dusky. Old term for dark.

    • @acosiak6191
      @acosiak6191 2 года назад +14

      Yup Victorian Era style lol

    • @bernadettecarter8946
      @bernadettecarter8946 2 года назад +23

      Did they say Kitty was Irish white. You know the Irish and the Scottish emigrants went straight to them mountains when they came to America in essence they were the HILLBILLIES right?? Maybe this is where Kitty disappeared too the Appalachian or blue ridge mountains or some mountain in or near WEST VIRGINIA?? IJS

    • @DuchessofKuvuki
      @DuchessofKuvuki 2 года назад +18

      There are still a lot of dusties in South Africa 🇿🇦

    • @kwazingcobo6450
      @kwazingcobo6450 2 года назад

      @@DuchessofKuvuki
      And a lot of nutcases like you

  • @deewesthill1213
    @deewesthill1213 2 года назад +327

    I'm guessing that Kitty changed her identity and found herself a new life elsewhere.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  2 года назад +38

      Hi Dee Westhill! I think that's a good guess.

    • @deewesthill1213
      @deewesthill1213 2 года назад +36

      In those days, a few years before most people had access to music on recordings or radio broadcasts, everyone who could afford a piano and lessons wanted them, so she would have been in demand and could both earn a good living for herself and find a man who would both treat her right and actually work for a living.

    • @quitafarlo8625
      @quitafarlo8625 2 года назад +37

      After listening to the end I think I'm in agreement with you she left and changed her identity. So she could separate herself from her family and that marriage. This would allow her to set her own story and live life the way she wanted.

    • @liveyourbestsoftlife5705
      @liveyourbestsoftlife5705 2 года назад +37

      Yes where her wm didn't know she married a bm. Because laying with bm lowers your worth

    • @deewesthill1213
      @deewesthill1213 2 года назад +32

      @@liveyourbestsoftlife5705 Of course, marrying a man from a lower social class would also lower a woman's worth in the social meat market of that day.

  • @bokani14ify
    @bokani14ify 2 года назад +110

    As a Zimbabwean I have never heared of it. Lobengula was King of the Ndebele /Matebele located in current day Zimbabwe. His Kingdom was destroyed by the British colonisers in 1894 and some of children were taken to South Africa by the colonisers. Trying to search if he had a child called Peter. African kings did not have concubines, they had lots of wives, they practiced polygammy.

    • @pinkyshange112
      @pinkyshange112 2 года назад +7

      I don’t believe her story😂😂

    • @goldengirl5887
      @goldengirl5887 2 года назад +2

      Thank u

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 Год назад +5

      @@pinkyshange112 Peter Lobengula was mentioned in a documentary on the history of interracial relationships uploaded a decade ago, but I literally just saw it so I’m also unsure.

    • @sithasikhuni9402
      @sithasikhuni9402 Год назад +12

      I'm Zimbabwean too and a Ndebele and like you I've never heard of this Peter fellow, especially suspicious is that he worked in a circus, seems to me this fellow was an imposter son of the late great king of the Ndebele, only dubbed a son of Lobengula to attract people to the circus...its so disturbing how the history of Black Africans continues to be distorted and abused even in the 21st century!!!

    • @shanimorse9095
      @shanimorse9095 Год назад +10

      At 6:01 in the video it lists Peter's middle name as "Kushana" or "Rushana". Perhaps that is the name he used in South Africa and not Peter? Also he could have been a son of a lesser wife (not a concubine) since I just read the king had well over 20 wives. But of course he could have just made it all up for the circus.

  • @knmonlinemedia
    @knmonlinemedia Год назад +60

    Aw heck naw! The African Prince scam has been going on much longer than I thought! LOL This is good 😆

  • @grafxdesigner93
    @grafxdesigner93 2 года назад +66

    The newspapers back then was the "Jerry Springer shows" or "Maury Povich shows" WITHOUT the televisions. LOL Messy as hell.

    • @msls6592
      @msls6592 2 года назад +8

      Yes, they were savage 😂

  • @vanessathomas7437
    @vanessathomas7437 2 года назад +125

    More than likely, she changed her name and looks and lived on, probably here in the States, Australia, or Europe. Back then there were no social media, smartphones, or IDs(driver's licenses, social security numbers, etc.) so it was easy for a person to "disappear".

  • @toriyt2714
    @toriyt2714 2 года назад +139

    So 90 day fiancé been a thing 😂

  • @theshani612
    @theshani612 2 года назад +100

    They sound like that one drunk couple everyone knows. Arguing about who took who’s cigarettes/5 dollars of the dresser.

  • @bronzedrage
    @bronzedrage 2 года назад +95

    Kitty hopped an ocean liner and made her way to NYC. LOL

    • @liveyourbestsoftlife5705
      @liveyourbestsoftlife5705 2 года назад +23

      And probably found her a decent wm. I bet she left the dusky clowns alone aka dusty 🤷😂

    • @samsmom1491
      @samsmom1491 2 года назад +3

      I would not be surprised if she did. Excellent suggestion. You could write a book or movie script based on this. Her life was certainly eventful, at the very least. I feel bad for both of them. It couldn't have been an easy life, especially given this was shortly after the prudish Victorian age.

  • @truthhurts...6574
    @truthhurts...6574 2 года назад +246

    They called BM dusky back in the day with bad behavior. Currently we call them dusty. Not much has changed it appears 🤔 😂

  • @gotlumpz4upaintball447
    @gotlumpz4upaintball447 2 года назад +65

    Her “bootleg Prince” 😂🤣

  • @StarsabovetheEmeraldForest
    @StarsabovetheEmeraldForest 2 года назад +78

    I think Kitty took on a new identity, relocated and went back to the men in her community. Kitty got the same BM.

    • @keithingram8690
      @keithingram8690 Год назад

      That lady wood on to find more black. D. To play with and to get done real real nasty and in fact like what she’s doing.

  • @Bizz2k
    @Bizz2k 2 года назад +15

    She married him because the s3x was great but, she didn't realise that lack of him being educated, differences at the time and him being unable to acquire a job would expose the marriage as a sham.

  • @livingbetternotbitterwithp4997
    @livingbetternotbitterwithp4997 2 года назад +40

    Just put 2022 on this and call it a day. She belongs to the streets and he is a dust bucket and in the words of Cyn G. She got the same Black man. Lol This was truly a Hot Mess! ❤️

    • @girljenk7872
      @girljenk7872 2 года назад +4

      Lmao I'm weak 😂😂😂

  • @spalmer2849
    @spalmer2849 2 года назад +30

    "Africans being all African and stuff " 😂😂 I also wanna add how handsome the guy was

    • @sandycheeks1580
      @sandycheeks1580 Год назад

      🎉Big white smile, fake royalty story, handsome face. That’s how the African scammers get ya. 😮

    • @mairarodriguez1525
      @mairarodriguez1525 8 месяцев назад +1

      Flaky af... but yea.

    • @SookiesCharlie_aunt
      @SookiesCharlie_aunt 6 месяцев назад +1

      They can have a pretty face but their behavior can be sketchy and busted. Some people just have really poor judgement.

  • @DuchessofKuvuki
    @DuchessofKuvuki 2 года назад +42

    In South Africa where I live, the pathology of Black men cheating and abusing their partners has not stopped.

    • @loveylady7965
      @loveylady7965 2 года назад

      White men in America kill the entire family for insurance money maybe this is why white women chase black men they are tired of being found in the dumpster

    • @Speedy300
      @Speedy300 Год назад

      Why generalize

    • @Speedy300
      @Speedy300 Год назад

      It is funny how our women like to talk about the negative stuffs especially when it comes to black men; moreover, she married a fake guy that happened to be black or African.

    • @DuchessofKuvuki
      @DuchessofKuvuki Год назад

      @@Speedy300 our women? The ones you're gbving and killing daily? 😷

    • @DuchessofKuvuki
      @DuchessofKuvuki Год назад

      @@Speedy300 because majority of men are like this, it's common for them to cheat. They've normalized it 🤮🤮

  • @ilovethe80slovesongs21
    @ilovethe80slovesongs21 2 года назад +25

    Turn of the century dust! This has been going on for ages.

  • @Lynn.B.
    @Lynn.B. 2 года назад +105

    Very interesting video. Kitty was a very brave woman to go against the grain of her time to marry Lobengula...an African man, and a circus act at that. Lobengula made sure her bravery didn't go unpunished.

    • @hairyape3935
      @hairyape3935 2 года назад

      Gold diggers have no scruples

    • @liveyourbestsoftlife5705
      @liveyourbestsoftlife5705 2 года назад

      She gave it all up for sex
      She wasn't brave SHE WAS INSANE 🤡

    • @deowil1
      @deowil1 2 года назад

      It looks as if Kitty lusted for that African man just as the men of her race lusted, molested and raped African women and enslaved African women, girls and boys too.

    • @tessmoore3762
      @tessmoore3762 2 года назад +2

      She wasn't brave. She was stupid. Why marry a man (no matter the color) that doesn't work, and that was already taking things from her. She couldn't trust him, and he even bit her. That was BEFORE they were married. Ridiculous. Smartest thing she did was to divorce him and disappear.

    • @hairyape3935
      @hairyape3935 2 года назад

      @@tessmoore3762 never should have married such a clown

  • @phalynwilliams4119
    @phalynwilliams4119 2 года назад +145

    In other words, this woman was considered second tier/second rate even though she was pretty. She came from a trashy family. Therefore, she couldn’t get a decent wm to marry her. This video sounds like a Cyn g report. These reports show a consistent pattern of undeniable dust. Unfortunate but true. Thank you for making this video. It was truly a hot 🥵 mess.

    • @ClowneryAtItsFinest
      @ClowneryAtItsFinest 2 года назад +10

      😆

    • @youcantusemyphone9812
      @youcantusemyphone9812 2 года назад +21

      I was literally thinking she would have a field day with this and the fact the word Dusky is close to Dusty ,im in tears 🤣😅🤣 I can hear her voice🤣

    • @sweetpoptart9486
      @sweetpoptart9486 2 года назад +23

      "Who they really choose" 🤣

    • @buttarain27
      @buttarain27 2 года назад +12

      Ya'll killin' me in the comments!

    • @foreverseethe
      @foreverseethe Год назад

      Wording. "Trashy" according to nobility, which was still far above what most people here would recognize as trashy.

  • @beautyinthedark7406
    @beautyinthedark7406 2 года назад +61

    Kudos to Kitty for bailing out sooner than later.

    • @keithingram8690
      @keithingram8690 Год назад

      Isn’t it funny how it was OK for her to get with a black dude because she love the size of his D….. but then she needed to be a little Harvy know he needed to get rid of that. No good ass piece of white trash.…. That was doing him and any other little black men in the community at the time.… isn’t it funny no matter what era it is there’s always a black man being bashed and fucked and sucked on by you. Women who believe we should do what y’all want. The dick don’t work like that. Sorry.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mika9883
    @mika9883 2 года назад +37

    BM been doing bs from the 1900… 😂

    • @alanm03
      @alanm03 2 года назад +4

      Black women too

    • @SagesseNoir
      @SagesseNoir 2 года назад +9

      Some black men were doing this, as was some whit men, and some black women, and some white women. What's surprising is that people are surprised.

    • @donttalktomeyoureannoying8736
      @donttalktomeyoureannoying8736 2 года назад

      @@SagesseNoir Cope harder.

  • @Llupe9021
    @Llupe9021 2 года назад +17

    I saw her in Wal-Mart last Tuesday. She's still alive.

  • @Rage_RT345
    @Rage_RT345 2 года назад +73

    Damn she picked a dusky ie dusty Peter was a the pookie and ray ray of that era , thank you for posting this; this is some 🔥🔥🔥🔥 tea

    • @Rage_RT345
      @Rage_RT345 2 года назад +4

      @Coco Morena hey we all can't be kings or queens they both were low class some folks are peasant be careful who you date vet careful "divested" or not

  • @catflon2388
    @catflon2388 2 года назад +68

    History lesson 101: it repeats itself as people refuse to learn it☺️☺️🤗

  • @marquisconner1192
    @marquisconner1192 2 года назад +13

    So for centuries everyone been out here getting the same black dusty man 😂😂😂

  • @peacefulblessed2114
    @peacefulblessed2114 2 года назад +35

    It appear Kathy got the same BM

  • @AmyKnits
    @AmyKnits 2 года назад +48

    These two were hysterical! I think I laughed through much of the video. This couple certainly lived a very interesting life.

    • @bernadettecarter8946
      @bernadettecarter8946 2 года назад +14

      They both seem to be GRIFTING each other. Then found out they were both lying to each other. They were both trying to use each other as a come up, but neither one of them had the goods.😂

    • @violetsrayreikishop2
      @violetsrayreikishop2 Год назад

      @@bernadettecarter8946 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Kinmy0921
    @Kinmy0921 2 года назад +12

    The “blackchop” letter got me weak af! 🤣

  • @mississippimud7046
    @mississippimud7046 2 года назад +30

    Miss kitty moved to Dodge went to work in the Long branch saloon and the rest is history 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tjaspire
    @tjaspire Год назад +17

    I've never given a man money and I'm not gonna start now. Not even two dollars. Some guys have no shame, being cool with asking a woman for handouts when they are able-bodied and capable of finding a job.

    • @dinaoser7725
      @dinaoser7725 Год назад

      Kitty's got Some
      Nappy Ass Hair.

    • @keithingram8690
      @keithingram8690 Год назад

      Hey, have you ever thought that the story was just made up to bash the black man. If you notice through the whole story, she never said anything good about the black man. But one things for sure that little white woman love that dick she was Dick crazy.… so don’t be mad because a black man put the dick on her and she did not know what to do like most of you so-called women…. You go after some dick you want and then when they don’t bow down if played by your silly ass rules you get mad because the dick ain’t doing what you want to do. Wake up. Wake up wake up wake up. There will be no black dick and going on of anyone of you unless you’re acting like you’re supposed to😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @raphaelandrews3617
    @raphaelandrews3617 2 года назад +32

    After the divorce Kitty decided to change her name and claimed she was a widow.( very common at time) and may have re-married to someone else.

  • @teeteegay
    @teeteegay 2 года назад +43

    Kitty went back white‼️ She didn't get the prince she wanted.. I work with a lot of em'. First child mixed. Next they went back home🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @jgalt5002
      @jgalt5002 2 года назад +2

      ?

    • @getreadynow647
      @getreadynow647 2 года назад +9

      After traveling you realize there's no place like home

    • @lifeis2171
      @lifeis2171 Год назад +2

      Or they, put then up for adoption.

    • @destinixshakur
      @destinixshakur Год назад +1

      Yep!

    • @zoommeeting6854
      @zoommeeting6854 Год назад +1

      That's me, but I went white now I'm back with my back and Hispanics
      *black

  • @terryhoward8263
    @terryhoward8263 2 года назад +43

    She may have tried to run away and start over but I doubt it because her marriage to a black man had been too well-publicized. She probably went down like many white women who marry black men due especially to the times. Disowned by her family and friends, she most likely just inched by in society on pennies.

  • @rubychew6535
    @rubychew6535 2 года назад +45

    I think she moved and changed her identity.

  • @cu5864
    @cu5864 2 года назад +107

    Great video Ti! I think she moved and assumed a new identity. If she was seen as nonmarriage material by society before marrying this guy my guess is that her infamous exposure in the tabloids made it impossible to find a suitor or be accepted by society after the divorce.

    • @liveyourbestsoftlife5705
      @liveyourbestsoftlife5705 2 года назад +16

      You downgrade when you're involved with them. They're clowns and he was in the circus for a reason

    • @cathylake9072
      @cathylake9072 2 года назад +6

      @@liveyourbestsoftlife5705 Wow, they got the same BM from the start.

    • @bernadettecarter8946
      @bernadettecarter8946 2 года назад +9

      I believe that she was a black woman passing for white and was found out so this is why she was seen as non marriage material. The hair is a dead giveaway 😊

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 Год назад +1

      @@liveyourbestsoftlife5705 I’m sorry but who is the “they” you speak of?

  • @brandid4239
    @brandid4239 Год назад +7

    I cant 😂 with clown part if you pick up a guy at a circus he might be a clown 😂😂😂😂

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 2 года назад +17

    If he couldn't read why did she write letters to Blackchops?

  • @queenmother1207
    @queenmother1207 2 года назад +35

    It may just be me but I can't help but think she married him because she thought he was a prince with money. Also, the way others treated her played a part in a short marriage.

    • @isabellavalencia8026
      @isabellavalencia8026 Год назад

      Get real, he worked in a circus! Nobody thought he had money.

    • @kittykatz4001
      @kittykatz4001 Год назад +1

      There is a mother brokie on one of those dating shows lying to a WW and her family whom they live with, that he’s a prince in Africa! The WW he’s with thinks he has a castle in africa, but he had to tell her and her family he’s broke!

  • @miraclemay24
    @miraclemay24 2 года назад +45

    As a South african I never heard of this story lol

    • @disabledbabe
      @disabledbabe 2 года назад +1

      Because the school curriculum has not been revised to teach true history or there is no compilation of stories about history that Africans are encouraged to read.

    • @Kim-ok5tn
      @Kim-ok5tn 10 месяцев назад

      Because it happened in Britain duhhh

    • @miraclemay24
      @miraclemay24 10 месяцев назад

      @@Kim-ok5tn huh?

  • @pattygravs6354
    @pattygravs6354 2 года назад +133

    Your channel is so wonderful and you have such a calming narrative voice and your research is impeccable. My friends think I'm weird for loving historical things but I think these stories are so wonderful, and that proves people are the same no matter if they live two hundred years ago or live now. People are just messy in general lol 😆.

    • @reneebenningalexander2630
      @reneebenningalexander2630 2 года назад

      What amazes me is the one sided view point that the man a savage…. There are numerous women that have mental issues that require a deep need for attention… playing the victim… needing someone to rescue them from a situation that they made up in their minds….just because historically it is assumed that this man assaulted her only because he was black… did anyone do research on african culture… did any so background on the men she had prior… there has got to be a very provocative reason why her parents/ mom or relatives loss contact… even before him…. She could have been a real mental case….I know two women….both created scenarios or lied one of my relatives told me to anger a man constantly til he can’t do anything but stoke her was a real turn on cuz make up sec was great… how sick is that… one even lied to destroy a man’s reputation cause they had a disagreement on how to use savings… in both events the women didn’t get their way and provoked or lied… why are we so quick to make the man the villain…

    • @shevettejackson.
      @shevettejackson. Год назад +1

      Yes!! Lol

  • @frontrowwithseand.9056
    @frontrowwithseand.9056 2 года назад +23

    THE WAY I HOLLERED AT MY DESK WHEN YOU SAID BLACKHOPS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @pattygravs6354
    @pattygravs6354 2 года назад +155

    I can only imagine the Ruckus this caused over a hundred years ago LOL. I married a black man 40 years ago and his family and my family both were NOT happy! It was only when we had children that people's opinions changed and then they were more accepting of our marriage. Miss Kitty had a lot of balls back then to marry the man she loved, I give her props for that.

    • @PHlophe
      @PHlophe 2 года назад +11

      Patty, i meant to ask, does it happen to you that when you are on your own that people are surprised your husband is black ? . my mother is black ( an african) , she told me even in supermarkets people refer to my dad as her "boyfriend" or her "colleague". i mean she's got jokes for days but people refuse to pair her up with her own husband.

    • @gagecarty4290
      @gagecarty4290 2 года назад +8

      Yes, there are decent black men and people as well as flimflam artists like him he knew the limits of his scam that's why he didn't take all the money, he would've landed in jail and not a circus cage.

    • @nakeyapratt4002
      @nakeyapratt4002 2 года назад +30

      Yt women can have black men, be their caregiver, take their money, I'm unbothered

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 2 года назад

      @@nakeyapratt4002 Yep, these woke womins deserve exactly what they get, mostly the many black eyes....
      pay the toll always applies.

    • @etruscancivilization
      @etruscancivilization 2 года назад +14

      @@nakeyapratt4002 Why should you be bothered since it is none of your business...

  • @myshanamakisi6063
    @myshanamakisi6063 2 года назад +78

    This channel stay proving Cynthia G right...😂😂😂😂

    • @ronaldtaylor4198
      @ronaldtaylor4198 2 года назад +10

      You clowns can have Cynthia G.

    • @liveyourbestsoftlife5705
      @liveyourbestsoftlife5705 2 года назад +12

      Lol.. for sure!

    • @liveyourbestsoftlife5705
      @liveyourbestsoftlife5705 2 года назад +33

      @@ronaldtaylor4198 you duskys aka Dusty's can have Kevin,Oshay and all the rest of bm manosphere Dusty's 🗑️😂

    • @CFarris2462
      @CFarris2462 2 года назад +6

      This doesn't prove that chick right it's only showcases how non-respectable females choose terrible mates... so Kevin was right!! Just like Dorothy Danridge as beautiful as she was she choose the wrong black & white man, as both did her wrong... IE it was her fault

    • @sassynj1264
      @sassynj1264 2 года назад

      Smh but didn't she get pregnant by a dusty 🤔..idk I snapped

  • @KiiKiiMC
    @KiiKiiMC 2 года назад +17

    Your presentation of the husband have me laughing so hard.😂

  • @tonyt8805
    @tonyt8805 2 года назад +4

    Too funny!!! 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
    Lifetime needs to make the movie. 💯 💯 💯

  • @Pula732
    @Pula732 Год назад +2

    I am a South African and I have never heard of this story thanks for sharing this history. Unfortunately Dusties, have always existed and will always be among us😅.

  • @FourEverEvolving
    @FourEverEvolving 2 года назад +16

    THIS WAS A JUICY HOT MESS!!! Oh Kitty. I think she changed her name and set sail on the Titanic ( like Rose did in the movie )and didn't make it to New York!💁🏾‍♀️

  • @tiffanyyisrael7989
    @tiffanyyisrael7989 2 года назад +14

    She thought she was getting to the bag! 😂💲💰💵💸💳

  • @shelbourneking7068
    @shelbourneking7068 2 года назад +7

    A lot of the white women at that time was attracted to the African men in the circus , i read a story about it . They used to call them natives .

  • @tauqueishachester9844
    @tauqueishachester9844 2 года назад +46

    You work so hard I can't wait until you way more clout cause your old tea is better than the new tea which means people has always been with the bullshit

    • @orinchalmers5718
      @orinchalmers5718 2 года назад +7

      People have always been with the bull shit.

    • @phalynwilliams4119
      @phalynwilliams4119 2 года назад +8

      The Bible says that there is nothing new under the Sun.

  • @brooklynqueen7089
    @brooklynqueen7089 2 года назад +11

    As Cyn G often says, they get the same BM🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @oiputthatback7361
    @oiputthatback7361 Год назад +2

    Prince Peter looked rather “ dapper” in his get up , what a handsome man he was . Kitty also scrubbed up pretty well . Now back to serious business , Peter had Kitty and visa versa, but I would rather have the whole county of Cornwall, what a breathtaking beauty she is , I love her and she never disappoints. 😍 . Great story, and as you asked I have now subbed. Thank you.

  • @LUX_8
    @LUX_8 2 года назад +7

    Oops. Kitty got the "same BM." 🤭

  • @Thesekidstookmychannel
    @Thesekidstookmychannel 2 года назад +14

    I mean TECHNICALLY he IS a king. We derived from royalty 😂😂😂😂😂. I'm tickled..

  • @deowil1
    @deowil1 2 года назад +4

    Nah, that white woman must have had Jungle Fever and she could see that the Prince man was coloured.

  • @briantbmoth6472
    @briantbmoth6472 2 года назад +48

    Nigerian love scams from back in the day 😆

    • @beckydavis1820
      @beckydavis1820 2 года назад +1

      Mail was slower back then so the money thing was not a get rich fast thing.

    • @josweetlove1537
      @josweetlove1537 2 года назад +6

      @ Brian TBMOTH he was South African not Nigerian.

    • @michaelle8384
      @michaelle8384 2 года назад

      Now they getting worst and worst

    • @sonianavarro5083
      @sonianavarro5083 2 года назад

      🤣

  • @vintageincolor
    @vintageincolor 2 года назад +41

    You always give the MOST interesting history lessons!

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  2 года назад +1

      Hi VintageinColor! Thank you so much! I'm so glad that you find these videos to be interesting.

  • @darylrichardson8567
    @darylrichardson8567 2 года назад +12

    The ORIGINAL TIMDER SWINDLER🤣😂

  • @sylviaj270
    @sylviaj270 2 года назад +10

    Back then you could relocate and assume a new identity. Today you can be tracked by your social security number and things show up on internet. Social media will blast you out.

  • @Imeraldgyrl
    @Imeraldgyrl Год назад +2

    Kitty changed her identity and more than likely remained a British subject as at that time “the sun never set on the British Empire.” And she could have easily hid in plain sight, particularly as she aged.

  • @megamoneyk
    @megamoneyk 2 года назад +40

    The Irish woman was no joke. She made his ass work. Kitty seemed ok. I feel bad for her. He was not a bad looking guy. Probably was a great lover.

    • @MonicaJNYC
      @MonicaJNYC 2 года назад

      @Ididnt Lie 😄

    • @troybacon4331
      @troybacon4331 2 года назад +9

      @ididnt lie cuz usually the dusty ones are the best ones 😂😂😂

    • @iambicpentameter9510
      @iambicpentameter9510 2 года назад +8

      Always boils down to the BBC.🤔 That's all he brought to the table.

    • @yknowiknow5937
      @yknowiknow5937 2 года назад +3

      @@iambicpentameter9510 does it matter, if the 🐓, is black or white, as long, as it's long and big.??🤔😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂😂

    • @earlenehandley5579
      @earlenehandley5579 2 года назад

      @@yknowiknow5937 right ✅️

  • @myeyeswentdeaf6213
    @myeyeswentdeaf6213 2 года назад +52

    I think it’s ridiculous how the tabloids blamed the domestic violence of this relationship on the fact that they’re an interracial couple as if you couldn’t find a white couple who was much worse off.

    • @fredmccrimmon74
      @fredmccrimmon74 2 года назад +5

      Amen

    • @bernadettecarter8946
      @bernadettecarter8946 2 года назад +14

      I don’t think that them being an interracial couple has anything to to with their domestic violence. It’s that they both lied to each other about who they really were. Both trying to use each other as a comeuppance. She thought he was a real king but he was fake. He thought she was a rich whiten woman of good background but was a woman of low stature in her community and look what it got them both. They played each other and for what? Look what it got them, chaos and misery 😏

    • @sherrisolomon2843
      @sherrisolomon2843 2 года назад +2

      @@bernadettecarter8946 smh.

    • @cecilbrasfield6642
      @cecilbrasfield6642 2 года назад +3

      OJ Simpson,,, Good example. Need I say more.

    • @cecilbrasfield6642
      @cecilbrasfield6642 2 года назад

      It’s not an interracial thing it’s a racial thing . Black men can’t handle if their wives or girlfriends start dating white guys. They can’t handle that . Happens a lot more then you think .

  • @ItaintmeCCC
    @ItaintmeCCC 2 года назад +26

    I live in Salford in the UK where this man and his son lived and where his son would of grown up. I can't imagine what life was like for them back then as Salford was always known as a really racist area with little to no black people. Times have changed in the last 15 years with a huge influx of Africans living in the area so it's not so bad and people are generally friendly.

    • @elisageorge2261
      @elisageorge2261 Год назад +3

      Wasn't that racist.. they didn't kill him..and in a torturous, horrific way .

    • @Kim-ok5tn
      @Kim-ok5tn 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@elisageorge2261so if you don't murder you're not that racist? Do you hear yourself. As if most people are inclined to murder. You people are very racist and you're well aware the extent

  • @sherrita80548
    @sherrita80548 2 года назад +13

    Changed her name and moved

  • @judyanderson3500
    @judyanderson3500 2 года назад +8

    Dusky got me! Poor Kitty 😺

  • @isx9046
    @isx9046 Год назад +6

    Enjoying the video like I usually do. So much of this sounds like familiar shenanigans of today. The more things change, the more it stays the same.

  • @VeeLondon1449
    @VeeLondon1449 2 года назад +17

    ♥️ I just love your videos. You have a brilliant sense of humour and your a great storyteller this is a really interesting story x

  • @sandra-sukiacquah4445
    @sandra-sukiacquah4445 2 года назад +8

    Sorry Miss Kitty, your kitty got tricked. Good evening.

  • @Yasharala3
    @Yasharala3 2 года назад +16

    Can't wait to see you ladies, yes Thelma you look beautiful, TMH Bless you both~

  • @jovongoines7133
    @jovongoines7133 2 года назад +18

    I did research about it, that was so so deeper hot mess than one…

  • @tarahill308
    @tarahill308 2 года назад +32

    Heck I know not to marry one even in these times😂. It is some truth to finding out about the family. Many family trees have plenty of nut branches 😂. Please go to family reunions before having kids with someone 😂.

    • @ronaldtaylor4198
      @ronaldtaylor4198 2 года назад +6

      How do you assume a bm would want you😂😂😂

    • @liveyourbestsoftlife5705
      @liveyourbestsoftlife5705 2 года назад +4

      I swear..

    • @liveyourbestsoftlife5705
      @liveyourbestsoftlife5705 2 года назад +1

      @@ronaldtaylor4198 dusky bye. I been divested from you kangs. Living great. I hope you never want me. Go give Becky,Maria and ling ling hell. 😂

    • @tarahill308
      @tarahill308 2 года назад +2

      @@ronaldtaylor4198 I pray a African Dnt 😂 I’ll stick to the bm I’m with.

  • @testedtried1233
    @testedtried1233 2 года назад +16

    Bernadette has gooood Gene's. You cant buy that.

  • @yolandasession8158
    @yolandasession8158 2 года назад +5

    I love history.I’m here for it. Thanks for sharing

  • @sweedee3
    @sweedee3 2 года назад +16

    Thanks!

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  2 года назад +3

      Hi sweedee3! Thank you so much for your generous gift to the channel!

    • @jkbbotswana5003
      @jkbbotswana5003 2 года назад

      I like the history that really affected the whole of black Africa!

  • @dancingnature
    @dancingnature 2 года назад +3

    My white great great grandmother married an Cherokee man . She wasn’t allowed to live in the same house as her husband. She had to have a separate house . Her daughter, my great grandmother married a mixed race black man .

  • @roberthossic4944
    @roberthossic4944 2 года назад +5

    Talk about a classic case of jungle fever!

  • @shereewhite4828
    @shereewhite4828 2 года назад +10

    I love your channel as well as your voice. Keep the good stories coming & up the good work!

  • @Msmary98-98
    @Msmary98-98 2 года назад +12

    I had to come back and watch from the beginning cause I got to the live to late.😂😂😂

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  2 года назад +1

      Hi ms mary! Thank you for coming to the premiere! I hope that you saw my comments to you, because I can't tag your name because of the flower in front of it. I hope that you enjoy the replay!

    • @Msmary98-98
      @Msmary98-98 2 года назад

      @@TisHotMessHistory I did see your reply back and really appreciate that you took the time to reply to each of your followers. I may have to remove the flower cause it’s becoming a bit much 😂 I’ve been to a lot of premieres here on RUclips and most of them don’t even acknowledge their followers or reply back but I’m going to try to catch each one of yours cause I really enjoy scandals and hearing about things that went on way before I even existed.. keep up the awesome work and I’m looking forward to the next live.

  • @airannatopaz8643
    @airannatopaz8643 2 года назад +1

    The name of the title jungle fever gone horribly wrong is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

    • @unitedj6996
      @unitedj6996 2 года назад

      😂😂😏😅😂😂😂

  • @bgirl1478
    @bgirl1478 2 года назад +5

    I don't want no scrub lmao 😂

  • @mairarodriguez1525
    @mairarodriguez1525 8 месяцев назад +1

    "her bootleg African prince.." stop 😂😂😂😂

  • @wandafisher7661
    @wandafisher7661 2 года назад +18

    Good one as usual 👏

  • @A_T_E_R_R_Y
    @A_T_E_R_R_Y 2 года назад +2

    Peter a.k.a the african Prince is literally my first stepdad, he had no job, was a con man and when he triggered my ptsd him and my mom fell out so I went back to my grandmom's and he sold everything in the house which were all bought and imported from Germany by my mom. We left it eventually. last year my grand mom showed me a Facebook post which warned people to stay away from a group of 4 men and he was one of them. turns out being a conman wasn't working out because he couldn't even go to one of the biggest barbershops in town which he was a frequent visitor because he stole money from my mom. He now waits around ATMs to rob people at gun point. The last time I checked he was arrested and I haven't heard any more news cause me and my family are minding our business and just living

  • @amysanchez3699
    @amysanchez3699 2 года назад +60

    It was only so scandalous because he was African. An Irishman would have been just as bad or worse, and yes!! It would have been a scandal to marry an Irishman back then, too but wouldn't have made the papers.

    • @crystalaustin2845
      @crystalaustin2845 2 года назад +16

      You're not lying. Just view the TV shows like Downtown Abby or the Gilded Age where upper class American and English society at that time looked down on the Irish just as bad, but not worse than Black People.

    • @phalynwilliams4119
      @phalynwilliams4119 2 года назад +9

      A relationship with an Irish man might have been scandalous too but this dusty was super ignorant. 😂. The Irish ☘️ character, Tom, in Dowton Abbey had more integrity and self-respect than this clown 🤡 that woman shacked up with and then married. SMH. She had very poor judgment. Hopefully, she wised up. She probably changed her identity and moved to America 🇺🇸.

    • @megamoneyk
      @megamoneyk 2 года назад +3

      They call them black Irish.

    • @emmabyford4087
      @emmabyford4087 2 года назад +4

      Lol that’s such nonsense. Most of my English family in the 1800s married Irish immigrants in some way or another. The prejudices existed, yes, but it was entirely normal to marry Irish people as long as you were of the same class.

  • @catholiccrusader5328
    @catholiccrusader5328 2 года назад +10

    Too bad that such a good looking couple made such a mess of their lives. Though the odds was stacked against them they could have made their marriage work. Al they had to do was COME CLEAN with each other. One last thing I'm a new subscriber.

    • @toriyt2714
      @toriyt2714 2 года назад +4

      Yea because if you’re good looking couple everything else should just fall into place.

  • @toriyt2714
    @toriyt2714 2 года назад +5

    90 day fiancé been going on 😂

  • @annfisher3316
    @annfisher3316 6 месяцев назад

    Your fascination and enjoyment researching and presenting messy history translates to your fabulous channel. Evident you love what you do! 👏

  • @christinasmith8385
    @christinasmith8385 2 года назад +6

    Being all African and stuff ....you took me out🤣🤣

  • @jaccusefashion
    @jaccusefashion 7 месяцев назад +1

    Your Channel and your stories are ABSOLUTELY EPIC!!! Brilliant work!

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  6 месяцев назад

      Wow! Thank you so very much for your kind words.

  • @kimralaowens2373
    @kimralaowens2373 2 года назад +16

    Sarah Bartram was in a British circus too

    • @liveyourbestsoftlife5705
      @liveyourbestsoftlife5705 2 года назад +12

      That's what makes him a dusty. He's out laying and marrying ww after all the hell they're doing to you and your people. Still doing it till this day. Duskys

  • @tod3msn
    @tod3msn Год назад +1

    We've all been stupid for love including myself. The only difference is some people are over the top stupid and win the MVP for "Stupid for Love."

  • @perryrice4149
    @perryrice4149 2 года назад +10

    Wow these wicked women being like in Black Men. I wouldn't be surprised if any of them got down with the slave. No we know their husbands do anyway. 🤷🏽‍♀️😔

  • @oceans2415
    @oceans2415 2 года назад +2

    These two look like my Great Grandparents...🙄🤣🤣🤣

  • @redsunflower8999
    @redsunflower8999 2 года назад +3

    Wow! Dusties existed even back than!🙄

  • @alexstone7594
    @alexstone7594 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is probably why the queen of england wanted an African King to knee before her. He didn't, he said no and left her alone.

  • @goodgirl170
    @goodgirl170 2 года назад +6

    That WW married that dusty prince. Lol

  • @danie8106
    @danie8106 2 года назад +5

    She wanted that African trunk in that kitty. Self explanatory kind of story.