@@traincore1955it’s unlikely there’ll be another unit with superbreak. or at least one any time soon. the trailblazer’s kit looks to have unique mechanics. like being able to alternate blast vs single target in their destruction form and being able to taunt enemies in preservation form
also tried that exact lineup with jy and what i realized is this: gallagher +rm+hmc likes aoe toughness breaker for the 4th slot. tried argenti for the phys coverage and it also worked great. sw is the best 4th slot based on cn analysis but imo very unoptimal if the stage has multiple mobs or summons
True though, that's why dot is still the actual easiest play style to date. You can argue that super-break is easier to build and more universal, but who's to say hoyo wouldn't make it harder to use in combat down the line? But super-break and break are still the most fun no doubt
Honestly anyone who can do over 200 toughness dmg with RM buff should be able to output similar dps. It just so happens LL has the highest toughness bar dmg in a single atk with 225 toughness dmg with RM
well we finally got HSR’s equivalent of dendro and hyperbloom. Although I do wonder how they’ll try to make the future dps better or on par with superbreak. Although it isn’t necessarily to do so
The LC is no longer BE based, it’s now a F2P equivalent to Himeko’s LC. It changed like 3 days ago. Details Below @ S5: “Increases the wearer's ATK by 12%. After using an attack, for each enemy target hit, additionally increases ATK by 8%. This effect can stack 5 times and lasts until the next attack. If there are 3 or more enemy targets hit, this unit's SPD increases by 16%, lasting for 1 turn(s).”
Well no as you can see MrPokke stats he still had a 76/170+ crit ratio. So sadly no if we look at the CN analysis portion without crit he can only do about 200k/300k per LL and less with skill and ULT.
Would a super break Argenti also work ? Knowing that the super break damage scales of element (I think ? And phys break is the highest degree with fire break) and with argenti full ult breaks a ton soooo, would it work? I don't have argenti and I haven't seen anyone try it ?
The element is not the case for Superbreak. The calculation for Superbreak: Element Multiplier * Lvl Multiplier * Max Toughness Multiplier * (1 + Break Effect) * DEF Multi * Res Multi * Vuln Multi * Broken Multi Basically you need anyone with high Toughness DMG, Argenti can work but without TY/HuoHuo he will have his ult only after 3-4 turns. (If you run BE rope)
No, but Ruan Mei is by far the best support. 1.5x break efficiency is 1.5x super break damage, her ult is around 25% damage increase, and she extends broken state allowing for more attacks to deal super break damage.
We NEED desperately a shared HP boss challenge otherwise star rail is doomed to always be the "hunt challenge", "erudition challenge" and ""destruction challenge" game which is sad and limits us to play a determined way
@@yeepicowo3461 it is, but there was a speculation going around that this would be the Apocalipse Shadow mechanic, and that would balance the dps paths...
ok i'm gonna be real hmc and super break is absolute fucking dog water if you run them without ruan mei .. almost as if the actual overpowered character was ruan mei and not the freebie :^)
yeah ngl they should just buff her toughness bar dmg from 90 ST to 180 like no way JY with a bit of break substats and BE rope should be dishing out similar dmg output
@@Kyle-km7egthat's not how it works though... Even as a joke it doesn't work. He gets better, even better DPS characters come out - and it doesn't affect him. Their existence doesn't make him weaker. And his "meme" and actual indirect buffs do not allow him to fall behind too much. If there's an actual loser limited DPS - it's blade. Not a single sup in the game that perfectly fits him and doesn't waste a part of their kit on nothing (ATK buffs)
The new LC is no longer BE based, it’s now a F2P equivalent to Himeko’s LC. It changed like 3 days ago. Details Below @ S5: “Increases the wearer's ATK by 12%. After using an attack, for each enemy target hit, additionally increases ATK by 8%. This effect can stack 5 times and lasts until the next attack. If there are 3 or more enemy targets hit, this unit's SPD increases by 16%, lasting for 1 turn(s).”
@@xWiZ3 im referring to a 4star lc with sunday's portrait After the Charmony Fall Increases the wearer's Break Effect by 28%. After the wearer uses their Ultimate, increases their SPD by 8%, lasting for 2 turn(s).
i got lucky? with an e2 welt, and i use that instead of galagher in SupaBureiku teams: -if they are weak to imaginary, between him, RM and HMC's delay they never move. -welt has solid toughness dmg, and can run resolution for a bit of def shred. -sending enemies to the shadow realm with welt means more actions on superbroken enemies.
The sentiment for Welt for a long time was "doesn't matter enemies don't get turns if the damage is not enough to clear cycles". Well now the longer the enemy doesn't get a turn the more damage you pump out in a cycle.
Remember everyone, every patch is a Jing Yuan buff patch
He's getting consistently outdamaged by hmc in this vid lol
@@ekkusu9493it's a meme reference to the jingyuan mains subreddit that thinks every support released is for jingyuan
@@ekkusu9493 Sounds like you don't understand what a support does
Firefly💀@@ekkusu9493
And yet the midyuan allegation has not been broken 😂😂😂
Legend has it that Silverwolf has still not applied imaginary weakness on the enemy until now
she apply it in our imagination
Eula hyperbloom moment 🥲
lets see when ff comes out lmao
I'm just waiting for another superbreak character that isn't as goofy as fedora wearing harmony MC
midyuan still mid
At least Jing Yuan actually gets buffs 🥲
@@traincore1955it’s unlikely there’ll be another unit with superbreak. or at least one any time soon. the trailblazer’s kit looks to have unique mechanics. like being able to alternate blast vs single target in their destruction form and being able to taunt enemies in preservation form
This is the same vide as eula best team is hyperbloom
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEE ICANT
Except Eula has no synergy with hyperbloom but Jing Yuan does due to his high toughness damage with LL.
💀
@@blasianking4827 she's an amazing driver and uses the electro to provide shatter as well
@@blasianking4827superconduct
This feels the same as when diluc got buffed by Xianyun. Like diluc having the highest plunge multipliers LL has the highest toughness reduction
Misha have highest toughness reduction now, LL got dethroned
@@arslanabner572well he died so
@@emanator36 lmao 💀
Man both Jing Yuan and Kafka feel super good to play as superbreak carry
also tried that exact lineup with jy and what i realized is this: gallagher +rm+hmc likes aoe toughness breaker for the 4th slot. tried argenti for the phys coverage and it also worked great. sw is the best 4th slot based on cn analysis but imo very unoptimal if the stage has multiple mobs or summons
And FIrefly is built for that 4th slot
Jing Yuan should have had the light cone named The Unreachable Side, because Lightning Lord is never on the right side of the cycle counter 💀
I feel like they gonna give ppl that feeling of superbreak, sell boothill and ff and after that just start making every enemy with x3-10 toughness bar
We have already enemies can block the toughness bar like Sam, Yanquing, deer and several elites.
@@reizero246 that's why im gonna pull only supports now and wait for proper dps:)
If they make it x3-10 then they'll definitely release a character that can deal with it. So it'll only be a problem if you don't pull for that unit.
True though, that's why dot is still the actual easiest play style to date. You can argue that super-break is easier to build and more universal, but who's to say hoyo wouldn't make it harder to use in combat down the line? But super-break and break are still the most fun no doubt
the thing is the higher the toughness bar more break dmg will be dealt
👑 KING JUAN 👑
That jing yuan's theme hit really hard ngl
Meanwhile classic hypercarry e1s1 Jing Yuan doing 700k+ to the same two elites and the second wave as well. Bro's overcooking.
At this point Jingyuan is the xiangling of HSR every patch has a buff for him even if its a minor one
Chokke got so many ice implants that it matches the amount of times I lost the 50/50
It's a really fun team to play with even if hypercarry jy still does a lot more dmg lol, I think the fun factor alone wins it for me
yeah i tried this break team a lot . his hypercarry team still clears faster .but as you said it is definitly fun lol
SUPPERRRR BREAKKKK
Imagine a Break Effect LC for Erudition. Then we gotta try again!
we have it now it's called "After the Charmony Fall" LC
Now is the time for the masterstroke!
Why does people build boothil and jingyuan SB with crit stats ? I thought BE and SB was scaling off BE% only?
damn editor really spent 2 mins on implant ....
Ah yes Jingyuan the best support for HMC
i was planning on trying this when hmc released, good to see a video of it
i really wanted to see how hmc performs on a team without ruan mei, im still upgrading my hmc and other f2p break related units atm
another KingYuan buff patch, he keeps winning
this might be a harmony mc showcase
Except the base unit actually needs to have a high amount of toughness damage
Well it only becaause jingyuan has the highest thoughness dmg
Honestly anyone who can do over 200 toughness dmg with RM buff should be able to output similar dps. It just so happens LL has the highest toughness bar dmg in a single atk with 225 toughness dmg with RM
@@tayyabo except Boothill at 3 stacks have the highest toughness dmg
@@mrdeafter well currently it's jingyuan or Misha.
Man this is with a dps that doesn't scale off of BE at all, imagine when the actual BE scaling dps units hit the game like boothill.
King Yuan never tired of getting buff every patch sighh
well we finally got HSR’s equivalent of dendro and hyperbloom. Although I do wonder how they’ll try to make the future dps better or on par with superbreak. Although it isn’t necessarily to do so
The fact that there is a break effect erudution lc also ccoming lol
The LC is no longer BE based, it’s now a F2P equivalent to Himeko’s LC. It changed like 3 days ago.
Details Below @ S5:
“Increases the wearer's ATK by 12%. After using an attack, for each enemy target hit, additionally increases ATK by 8%. This effect can stack 5 times and lasts until the next attack. If there are 3 or more enemy targets hit, this unit's SPD increases by 16%, lasting for 1 turn(s).”
@@xWiZ3 Wrong one. They are talking about "After the Charmony Fall" not "Eternal Calculus"
All I can see here is that HMC is so broken but you have to farm break effect on your carry to work with him if you don't have Ruan mei
harmony mc is the real dps here lmfao and jingyuan is the sub dps 😂
So after all the indirect buffs over the past patches, never that it will be Super Break that makes OUR GENERAL great again
So is it actually better than crit or is it just a meme?
Well no as you can see MrPokke stats he still had a 76/170+ crit ratio. So sadly no if we look at the CN analysis portion without crit he can only do about 200k/300k per LL and less with skill and ULT.
King yuan keeps winning
Goes to show Quantum gremlins are his bestfriends, SW and QQ.
oh its e2 ruan mei 🤣🤣
Good thing your editor cropped out all those fails. Would be crazy if they just left them all in...
jing yuan amd yanqing will forever be memed for dmg
Would a super break Argenti also work ? Knowing that the super break damage scales of element (I think ? And phys break is the highest degree with fire break) and with argenti full ult breaks a ton soooo, would it work? I don't have argenti and I haven't seen anyone try it ?
The element is not the case for Superbreak. The calculation for Superbreak:
Element Multiplier * Lvl Multiplier * Max Toughness Multiplier * (1 + Break Effect) * DEF Multi * Res Multi * Vuln Multi * Broken Multi
Basically you need anyone with high Toughness DMG, Argenti can work but without TY/HuoHuo he will have his ult only after 3-4 turns. (If you run BE rope)
@@zeragaming5766 ye true, would be hard to have his full ult more than once in a fight
Right so every character can become a break dps with hmc, rm and gallagher. Even sustains/supports
Idk I mean I feel like hypercarry triple support teams do more damage than that.
We clearing in 6 cycles with this one.
No longer cancelled
We are so back jing yuan is back and so is Gojo we are truly living in a time of greatness
SUPA BREEEEAAAAAK
Silver Wolf is such a troll 😂
"Radiant Spirit, heed my words, show em smol pp dmg"
CN discovers this new thing that everyone else knows is busted 💀
WAIT A MINUTE?? Now i can use him as a dps then. Thank god.
bffr😂
does this kind of teams only work with ruan mei
No, but Ruan Mei is by far the best support. 1.5x break efficiency is 1.5x super break damage, her ult is around 25% damage increase, and she extends broken state allowing for more attacks to deal super break damage.
You can run def reduction to increase super break like pela but it’s a much weaker version of superbreak
Ruan Mei increases Super Break damage.
Has anyone tried hyper break argenti? it seems nice in theory
Super break dmg depends on the char deal hit 's own break effect not Hmc BE so 😅
Someone needs to try Pseudo Sustain HMC team..
HMC only imprisons on Break, so it wouldn't be as consistent as Welt who can imprison without having to Break
this character is pure PAIN
What about Misha?
it reminds me the QQ trauma 🤣
We NEED desperately a shared HP boss challenge otherwise star rail is doomed to always be the "hunt challenge", "erudition challenge" and ""destruction challenge" game which is sad and limits us to play a determined way
That's literally the past, present, future boss
@@yeepicowo3461 it is, but there was a speculation going around that this would be the Apocalipse Shadow mechanic, and that would balance the dps paths...
People here unironicaly thinks that JY is mid ICANT, check some stats idk
breaKingYuan 👑
truly the Hyperbloom expy
silver wolf is truly gacha gamer
Bro got support
Well you still needs to break before you can do that much damage, i wonder if it's worth it.
why does JY need to build break effect? does super break scale with break effect or something?
Yep
@@Kosmcosm nice HMC showcase tho 🤣
Scales with hitter's BE and toughness damage.
@@Doflaminguard ah okay
If this is a hmc showcase then firefly is beyound saving
Not bad, almost half of Acheron's damage.
Insane
Naisuuuu
Superbreak is like Genshin's Hyperbloom HAHHAHA
Misha has the highest single target toughness break, not Mid Yuan.
Boothill will be the king of breaking when he is up.
Man i was looking how to dispatch and butcher and this apear wtf XD
When i say looking is literally i find this video
ok i'm gonna be real
hmc and super break is absolute fucking dog water if you run them without ruan mei
.. almost as if the actual overpowered character was ruan mei and not the freebie :^)
alr, who's gonna tell r/jingyuanmains?
LL pain, always at the next cycle lmao.
SUPA BREAK
my jingyuan still lv60 after i got acheron
finally more reason build jingyuan thanks!!
Ok now change jing yuan to boothill or firefly
You will see more dmg😂
My e1 xueyi cleared faster with rainbow pieces, s1 misha lc, an s0e1 ruan mei and the rest of the team being pretty much the same
I swear JY always copes with every new unit lmao 😂
Jingyuan won't ever be good unless they release a character that advances summons
Midyuan
CyYu's gonna love this video.
Im ngl Jing Yuan with the same comp as firefly does more damage than her 💀💀💀
ye but you're forgetting this damage is once per cycle meanwhile firefly deals that much damage per turn 😂
Damage per screenshot is not equal to actual DPS.
@@hxnslshhax9011wish u can say that to acheron mains and dont get flamed
yeah ngl they should just buff her toughness bar dmg from 90 ST to 180 like no way JY with a bit of break substats and BE rope should be dishing out similar dmg output
@@deltaspecies1697her dmg per screenshot is higher than every other unit’s total dmg lol
Midyuan still middin
13 views in 1 min bro did NOT fall off
271 views in 3 min bro fell of hard
This Comment is Beyond OVER Cooked.. 🫣😭
SUPA BREAK 😂
Cn this cn that
Comment
Try to remove Mid Juan from the team, it could do better without him.
Copium build
what we learn: *IMC strong.*
yuan still mid, you can replace with whatever other sp generator and you good.
You know you crit dps is bad when he started doing better dmg with a break build lol.
my man jing yuan gets indirectly buffed every patch😭
And indirectly nerfed with each dps release
@@Kyle-km7egu odiidy go learn nerd meaning iidot
@@Kyle-km7egthat's not how it works though... Even as a joke it doesn't work.
He gets better, even better DPS characters come out - and it doesn't affect him. Their existence doesn't make him weaker. And his "meme" and actual indirect buffs do not allow him to fall behind too much.
If there's an actual loser limited DPS - it's blade. Not a single sup in the game that perfectly fits him and doesn't waste a part of their kit on nothing (ATK buffs)
@@zenixvampirchik652jade gonna buff him indirectly, just enough so he can catch up
@@zenixvampirchik652their existence make him become the never ending midyuan meme instead
Jing Yuan continues to be the most indirectly buffed unit in the game holy shit
Could be improved with a Break Effect Erudition LC, which is not yet released
The new LC is no longer BE based, it’s now a F2P equivalent to Himeko’s LC. It changed like 3 days ago.
Details Below @ S5:
“Increases the wearer's ATK by 12%. After using an attack, for each enemy target hit, additionally increases ATK by 8%. This effect can stack 5 times and lasts until the next attack. If there are 3 or more enemy targets hit, this unit's SPD increases by 16%, lasting for 1 turn(s).”
@@xWiZ3 im referring to a 4star lc with sunday's portrait
After the Charmony Fall
Increases the wearer's Break Effect by 28%. After the wearer uses their Ultimate, increases their SPD by 8%, lasting for 2 turn(s).
Pokke: crop out
Chad Editor: did you mean crop in ?
Nice HMC showcase.
Every break team is a hmc showcase, shits busted
Do you know what a support is in this game? Same shit with ruan mei sprakle etc they literally make the team
@@mitzi3262 Wait until he sees Firefly's damage oh no no no
@@mitzi3262 I think Acheron broke people's brains, now they expect every dps to be hiding 2 meta supports in their traces.
@@mewmeister8650 well yeah acheron is objectively superior, while mid yuan is just that awful.
i got lucky? with an e2 welt, and i use that instead of galagher in SupaBureiku teams:
-if they are weak to imaginary, between him, RM and HMC's delay they never move.
-welt has solid toughness dmg, and can run resolution for a bit of def shred.
-sending enemies to the shadow realm with welt means more actions on superbroken enemies.
The sentiment for Welt for a long time was "doesn't matter enemies don't get turns if the damage is not enough to clear cycles". Well now the longer the enemy doesn't get a turn the more damage you pump out in a cycle.
12:11 the sound he made killed me😭🤣
Donald Duck
Pokke’s chat and comments proving once again why they remain the most annoying group of people when it comes to Jing Yuan