I really want companies with that type of philosophy to succeed, the karma was so beautiful and unique, Americans love mustang and Camaro because they don't try to look like a Honda passport, if we have more beautiful designs maybe the industry can get out of the bland crossover rut it's been stuck in for years
it just karma with differnt body... problem is low power.. low battary size.. low range.. overpice.... bad ui and terrible update... in the world that you can get Gm car for cheaper... why? rich people are not foolish.. and in today world unique dont' worth the money..
This is actually a decent car, pretty underrated considering it does basically everything better than its predecessor, the Fisker Karma. Back in 2018 the original Karma Revero used the Fisker Karma as a platform, but this one is a new design. Looking at some of those concept cars they have on the showroom floor, they probably have some big plans for the future.
Johnny Lieberman, wow. Great to see you around sir. Maybe I haven't seen you since I don't watch a lot of MT Channel on RUclips anymore. I do hope they keep bringing content like this out though. Thank you for all your work. (:
I guess they aren't going to talk about how they layed off most of the company last year.... Most off the people that designed these cars are no longer there
Lol I don’t know how they are falling into the same trap as FISKER. Their mission statement is all about design, which is great but it didn’t work for fisker, and they went bankrupt. If they don’t also focus on the practicality of the car I don’t see this vehicle doing much better in terms of sale :(
No it isn't, the fisker karma is a terrible platform from ground up and because of that, the karma revero is bad at everything, but now the karma revero gt is improving so much from it's predecessor. The revero gt now don't use the fisker karma platform so it's closer to maserati granturismo instead of the fisker karma. Which allows for roomier interior and luggage space they always struggled. They now use bmw 3 cyl instead of the outdated GM 4cyl (which has the same power). And now the motor has more punch than before
@@marcoimanuel5489 It does use the Fisker Karma Platform the glass and everything else is the same. Its a scam... Bob Kruse admitted that only the body panels have changed but same platform.
Design driven but you just revamped the Fisker Karma??? I mean even used the old model name as your manufacturer name? I’m soooo confused. This is just gonna be a repeat. Give it 3 years and you’ll be able to buy one of these cars at a 90% depreciated cost
If this sedan is big enough for Jonny Lieberman,then I should put this on my "maybe" pile. It is certainly roomy enough for my elderly aunt and sporty enough for me.
Why their all cars looks like mixer of some other existing cars..For example karma sc2 looks like a mix of mercedes concept car from the front and Aston Martin zagato shooting brake from side
Not exactly. For a recap: Fisker Automotive was started by the veteran car designer Henrik Fisker, who was accused by Tesla of allegedly stealing their secrets to build his own company. Many poor choices later, his company went into bankruptcy, and both Fisker Automotive and their battery supplier were bought by a Chinese car manufacturer. Fisker is now renamed as Karma, after the first Fisker model. Meanwhile, the designer went off to start another EV car company, also named Fisker.
The fisker karma/karma revero is one of the best looking cars of all time. They totally botched the look on the new model imo. That black front non-grille with the chrome trim is such an obvious tesla grab. The proportions are still stunning, but so much of the cool detail of the design is lost in favor of the monolithic tesla design language. :(
Oh look a stylish nanny car....why own a car if you don't want to really drive it? I enjoy driving. I enjoy the thrill of driving. I enjoy the feel of driving. I don't want a pod that does any part of the driving for me. The automotive industry is going the opposite direction I want to with these things.
Wanxiang Automotive would have been better off starting a car company from scratch, than wasting the billions they have on this antiquated rehash of Fisker IP. Karma has such a dearth of creativity, that they couldn't even come up with an original name when they renamed the company.
I dont want my car company monitoring everything about my car. That big brother 1984 stuff just isnt for me. Based on that alone I would never buy a car like this.
Meh. The original Karma looked better to me. I don’t like the way they updated the current Karma. Also don’t like that they’re playing it safe with their “future” design as it borrows heavily from the past. And what’s the point of adding a gas engine making it more complex, more expensive, with more maintenance.. and slower than less expensive full electrics. Sorry Karma, but you’re not moving in the right direction and will likely fail if you think that design is going to save the brand. Style without substance will only get lookers but not buyers.
This is how a Maserati Quattroporte should look like, instead of the pachidermic thing they managed to pull out... It's been since the '80s model that the Quattroporte is appalling. They dropped from making one of the most desirable sedans in the world, to below average heavy-lined embarassing 4-wheeled things. Maserati! Wake up! Hire Fisker to do your styling!
@@techtoth1 they are literally using downgraded ferrari engines instead of the whole package. Some of those changes are 60° bank v engine instead of 90°, and not using the variable length intake and the double spark which ferrari uses. This either because maserati is too broke to use the complete package of the ferrari engine, or ferrari is simply a bad partner. Right now they're doing the right thing. They refurbished their lineup (even though they still use the 60° bank downgraded ferrari engine) and they made a halo car called the mc20. Which has their newest made v6 twin turbo that makes 651 hp with the dual combustion chambers
@@marcoimanuel5489 Yeah; probably it was a marketing choice, because Maserati has always been a more GT constructor, rather than an extreme supercar one. That way you get a more comfortable ride. This doesn't mean that the styling can't be gorgeous, though. Let's see how sales go for the new path taken... Although I keep wishing for a new, stunning, Kamshin-like, Grand Tourer, and a Quattroporte looking like the Karma.
2 different companies who were together at one point now karma and fisker are separate brands cause they were owned by 2 different folks under 1 brand back then
Tesla’s look better than this. Mazda’s look better than this. Karma looks like several designers couldn’t make up their minds. Good luck with that counter movement. Those aren’t “amazing proportions” André..
@@renesis5036 Design ! Every part of the designs is "borrowed" from someone elses designs and then slapped all together. Dont get me wrong Hyundai makes great cars for the price but this car competes in a whole other league and should stand out.
so this is a 7:30 long paid commercial...cool
I really want companies with that type of philosophy to succeed, the karma was so beautiful and unique, Americans love mustang and Camaro because they don't try to look like a Honda passport, if we have more beautiful designs maybe the industry can get out of the bland crossover rut it's been stuck in for years
The Revero GT Had Same Design As In Grand Theft Auto V.
More like the C8 lol
it just karma with differnt body... problem is low power.. low battary size.. low range.. overpice.... bad ui and terrible update...
in the world that you can get Gm car for cheaper... why? rich people are not foolish.. and in today world unique dont' worth the money..
Did you steal the car in that game?
@@campkira they keep trying to sell this thing it’s literally the 3rd attempt
Hijak khamelion
This is actually a decent car, pretty underrated considering it does basically everything better than its predecessor, the Fisker Karma. Back in 2018 the original Karma Revero used the Fisker Karma as a platform, but this one is a new design. Looking at some of those concept cars they have on the showroom floor, they probably have some big plans for the future.
Wow, this is awesome! I completely forgot about the Fisker Karma from like 8 years ago!
Honestly, they might sell 3 of these. Also why does Jonny look like he's being held hostage by Karma during the entire video?
$$$
Haha, Johnny does seem very stiff in this video, very unlike him.
Because HE better say something nice about the car. (:
True information about Karma Revero: ruclips.net/video/nza8_N28_D0/видео.html
"All new" uhhh no, that's a Fisker with a different front bumper, the rest of the design is identical
The structure of the car is 90% the same. Majority of the changes are for styling and to package the new powertrain.
Yeah because fisker went bankrupt and another company bought it
@@bigben57 And the interior is definitely different.
Johnny Lieberman, wow. Great to see you around sir. Maybe I haven't seen you since I don't watch a lot of MT Channel on RUclips anymore. I do hope they keep bringing content like this out though. Thank you for all your work. (:
I guess they aren't going to talk about how they layed off most of the company last year.... Most off the people that designed these cars are no longer there
Love the idea behind the Karma Revero, extended electric hybrid!
Lol I don’t know how they are falling into the same trap as FISKER. Their mission statement is all about design, which is great but it didn’t work for fisker, and they went bankrupt. If they don’t also focus on the practicality of the car I don’t see this vehicle doing much better in terms of sale :(
No it isn't, the fisker karma is a terrible platform from ground up and because of that, the karma revero is bad at everything, but now the karma revero gt is improving so much from it's predecessor. The revero gt now don't use the fisker karma platform so it's closer to maserati granturismo instead of the fisker karma. Which allows for roomier interior and luggage space they always struggled. They now use bmw 3 cyl instead of the outdated GM 4cyl (which has the same power). And now the motor has more punch than before
@@marcoimanuel5489 It does use the Fisker Karma Platform the glass and everything else is the same. Its a scam... Bob Kruse admitted that only the body panels have changed but same platform.
Fisker design is just rework car in to differnt body.. karma was just fail in a lot of thing..
@@campkira yes true this is paid advertisement for company.
I feel the same way. Although I have seen some of these Karma vehicles on the roads locally.
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Design driven but you just revamped the Fisker Karma??? I mean even used the old model name as your manufacturer name? I’m soooo confused. This is just gonna be a repeat. Give it 3 years and you’ll be able to buy one of these cars at a 90% depreciated cost
Thx mr Lieberman!
Really nice car but when is the world's greatest drag race 10 starting 😭
So Glad To See Them Come Back From Bankruptcy
Finally a good car from a mostly unknown brand, beautiful design and it's not too futuristic I hope it's gonna be succesful
If this sedan is big enough for Jonny Lieberman,then I should put this on my "maybe" pile. It is certainly roomy enough for my elderly aunt and sporty enough for me.
Looks beautiful
Karma should team up with lucid motors
I really want one of these but i don't live near a dealer just in case i need service.
That second concept looks like a Supra concept
Who makes the petrol engine?
BMW.
@@RichardJoashTan From the I8?
@@stefanwinter1377 yep
@@RichardJoashTan I was sure it was a Ford engine. But ya, forgot that BMW came first with a 1,5.
The long hoods look weird to me
The cloud, lolol...who calls an internet connection, the cloud?
Why their all cars looks like mixer of some other existing cars..For example karma sc2 looks like a mix of mercedes concept car from the front and Aston Martin zagato shooting brake from side
Well if the design is so important, why not actually show the rear end of the car in this video?
They showed it at 2:56
I don’t like how it tracks u
For world's greatest drag race PLEASE ADD a dodge demon because the launch on it is so powerful
Isn’t that the Aston Martin Vulcan
Fisker has nothing to do with the brand Karma
Why do you call two door cars sedans? And four door cars coupe? It's exaxtly the opposite.
Isn't this the same designer that screwed over Tesla and tried to start his own car company and failed miserably? lol
Not exactly.
For a recap: Fisker Automotive was started by the veteran car designer Henrik Fisker, who was accused by Tesla of allegedly stealing their secrets to build his own company. Many poor choices later, his company went into bankruptcy, and both Fisker Automotive and their battery supplier were bought by a Chinese car manufacturer. Fisker is now renamed as Karma, after the first Fisker model. Meanwhile, the designer went off to start another EV car company, also named Fisker.
@@bottlely very true .. U got the facts right while some other folks talk what they dunno
So the Italian design on looks better lol not surprised
The fisker karma/karma revero is one of the best looking cars of all time. They totally botched the look on the new model imo. That black front non-grille with the chrome trim is such an obvious tesla grab. The proportions are still stunning, but so much of the cool detail of the design is lost in favor of the monolithic tesla design language. :(
But I will buy it fully loaded.
@@RichardJoashTan How is that relevant to what he said?
Plug-in hybrid with a combustion engine? How very 2010.
How true. About as Novel as going to the toilet to have a dump
0:12 well I was pronouncing that wrong. lol
I want a reply from Johnny Lieberman 🙏
"SC2", eh...? I mean, it worked out so well for Saturn and all.....
Why... Why does concept designs always look sleek and better than production version like the Toyota FT-1 or Mazda Vision RX-7
All new!!!
Aston martin 612 puma...thats the name
The who now??
Nice video bro and 2 channel the gaming
SUPER Karma Revero GT!!!!!!!
The design looks 5-10yrs old
Outdated
Oh look a stylish nanny car....why own a car if you don't want to really drive it? I enjoy driving. I enjoy the thrill of driving. I enjoy the feel of driving. I don't want a pod that does any part of the driving for me. The automotive industry is going the opposite direction I want to with these things.
The SC2 is what the Supra should’ve looked like. Toyota,,, take a good look at the mistake you made.
What a spazz, all cars are going to be electric. 🤣🤣🤣
Karma Revero GT = tesla model s 2012 + aston martin db9
Nope.
Fisker Karna.
Wanxiang Automotive would have been better off starting a car company from scratch, than wasting the billions they have on this antiquated rehash of Fisker IP. Karma has such a dearth of creativity, that they couldn't even come up with an original name when they renamed the company.
So much nicer than the lucid, and more reasonable hp rating. Who needs 1000hp
I've worked for both companies. The Karma is 15 years behind Lucid.
Lucid is more impressive than this honestly.
Never heard of karma before. But it looks well built than the big brands
lol this car just wont go away!
Big car, small horsepower, that is not realistic i think
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Karma sc2 however is a different story
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When aston martin and tesla had a baby
So...this or an Aston Martin Rapide?? Hmmmm
Front legit looks like a Ford Puma.
I dont want my car company monitoring everything about my car. That big brother 1984 stuff just isnt for me. Based on that alone I would never buy a car like this.
Agree
Great product but the worst interview ever
shouldve put the pininfarina car in production instead of that squashed red toad
it is another design out of Croatie
Meh. The original Karma looked better to me. I don’t like the way they updated the current Karma. Also don’t like that they’re playing it safe with their “future” design as it borrows heavily from the past. And what’s the point of adding a gas engine making it more complex, more expensive, with more maintenance.. and slower than less expensive full electrics. Sorry Karma, but you’re not moving in the right direction and will likely fail if you think that design is going to save the brand. Style without substance will only get lookers but not buyers.
You mean karma fisker
This is how a Maserati Quattroporte should look like, instead of the pachidermic thing they managed to pull out... It's been since the '80s model that the Quattroporte is appalling. They dropped from making one of the most desirable sedans in the world, to below average heavy-lined embarassing 4-wheeled things. Maserati! Wake up! Hire Fisker to do your styling!
I mean, maserati is a broke company even after acquired by ferrari so....
@@marcoimanuel5489 Yeah! Some great history thrown away... :(
@@techtoth1 they are literally using downgraded ferrari engines instead of the whole package. Some of those changes are 60° bank v engine instead of 90°, and not using the variable length intake and the double spark which ferrari uses. This either because maserati is too broke to use the complete package of the ferrari engine, or ferrari is simply a bad partner. Right now they're doing the right thing. They refurbished their lineup (even though they still use the 60° bank downgraded ferrari engine) and they made a halo car called the mc20. Which has their newest made v6 twin turbo that makes 651 hp with the dual combustion chambers
@@marcoimanuel5489 Yeah; probably it was a marketing choice, because Maserati has always been a more GT constructor, rather than an extreme supercar one. That way you get a more comfortable ride. This doesn't mean that the styling can't be gorgeous, though. Let's see how sales go for the new path taken...
Although I keep wishing for a new, stunning, Kamshin-like, Grand Tourer, and a Quattroporte looking like the Karma.
Looks like fisker karma
it's slow
Looks like a Tesla at first.
Seems to be inspired on the 2012 Tesla Model S(already outdated)
Fisker Karma!
@@jareknowak8712 it’s a fantastic car
I thought this company died.
I see a car that borrows a lot from Tesla Model S, just look at the grill...
It's around 10 years old, they came out in the same year. It's a Fisker Karma reborn.
Just another commercial.
The Fisker Model 3, the car that’ll never have any success.
Connected to the cloud, connected to the road with no nannies works for me E46 M3
Overpriced garbage. You don't see these on the road because they suck. Everyone gets a Tesla instead.
Haha co went bust few years after!
This presenter is interruptive and annoying. Karma and its team are great but this presenter from motor trend ruined the whole vid.
A hybrid car with brembo brakes. WTF
The guy really needs to stop trying to build cars.. clearly he never does well.
This is not the same as Fisker Karma. Fisker has nothing to do with this Karma brand
2 different companies who were together at one point now karma and fisker are separate brands cause they were owned by 2 different folks under 1 brand back then
If design is going to be what separates them then I want something more masculine looking then this the design ok for my wife for me I'll pass.
mehh looks like a tesla
yuk..
Yeh v8 for life 😎
Tesla’s look better than this. Mazda’s look better than this. Karma looks like several designers couldn’t make up their minds. Good luck with that counter movement. Those aren’t “amazing proportions” André..
Second
First
Boo
looks like a Hyundai :( Cheap n fake...
What is so cheap and fake about Karma and Hyundai?
@@renesis5036 Design ! Every part of the designs is "borrowed" from someone elses designs and then slapped all together. Dont get me wrong Hyundai makes great cars for the price but this car competes in a whole other league and should stand out.
Isn’t that the Aston Martin Vulcan
First