In 1818, an eight year old Frédéric François Chopin made his concert debut in Warsaw, Poland, performing this Concerto in F (1796). Gyrowetz composed two Piano Concertos. The Second Concerto was posted in August 2016. Fortunately, both of them are now in RUclips!
"The concert took place in the ballroom of a public building often used for such events, the former Radziwiłł Palace, and Chopin played a concerto by the Czech compoaser Adalbert Gyrowetz. It was his first appearance before such a large audience, and almost certainly the first time he had performed a work of this length."
Do you have a source of this information? I recently read in a book about Chopin that the concert he played in his first public appearance was Gyrowetz' e minor Concerto. There seems to be no mention of such Concerto by this composer anywhere I checked (internet only so far), so it looks like a misprint in the book I read. However I am unable to find any reliable source that confirms which Concerto Chopin actually performed other than your comment.
Szymon Jasiński, Kazimierz Wierzyński says in his book "Życie Chopina" that 8-year old Fryderyk Chopin was playing Gyrowetz' piano concert but he exactly doesn't explain which one it was. At page 66 by Wydawnictwo Literackie 1978. Probably this is the book you mean. I just started it. I don't like the style Wierzyński is using but I'm in love with Chopin's Art so I'm keeping on reading.
Adolfo Ricardo Gallegos i must say it would take a hell of a lot to get me to go to a concert given by an eight year old - when there are so many fine adult performers around
Chopin was playing the e minor concerto, not this one. But is it so beautiful? Actually, it's almost beautiful as Mozart or Beethoven's Piano concerto or Harpsichord concerto. He composed it with very classical style, not romantic like chopin or alkan. It's not the one that Frederic Francis Chopin played, but it is still great in all movements, including Allegro.
Sehr geehrte Frau mirinae 09O4 herzlichen ❤❤❤ vielen Dank für das gesamte Konzerte und das gleiche gilt für den Klavierpieler sehr vitrous sehr begeistert bin ich danke ❤❤❤❤ von Ihnen mit den besten Grüße aus Schallstadt südlich von Freiburg Joachim Ehlers
A gem of the classical idiom. Interesting tô note the treatment of materials through the orchestra, the sonata form and the Mannheim School elements present in many episodes.
This is not almost Mozart. There are not striking themes, the harmony is conventional and simple and there is little development. I keep coming back to the lesser lights of the Classical era hoping there was something I missed the last time around but sadly this concerto confirmed my initial take. Some occasional nice moments but not too much.
He was born Vojtěch Jírovec, but since he spent most of his life in Vienna, he seems to have Germanified his name. His birthplace, Budweis, was primarily German speaking at the time as well, so he may have grown up a German speaker. Smetana didn't learn to speak Czech well until the 1860's, having been educated in German.
It's a rather conventional concerto to be mostly considered as a good "training" for beginners at their first public performance. That's why Chopin performed it at his first public show when 8 years old. It was good to know it, nonetheless to improve my knowledge of the taste of that period. Also interesting to notice its Hummel-like style, although it predates the great Hummel concertos (whose reached heights are way too high to be compared with Gyrowetz sample, quite obviously)
It's conventional yes, but to capture the galant persona, that's an entirely dissimilar jeu des manières in regards to technique. I would say that it shows incredible balance between parts, and knowing his string quartets, and symphonies, this composer was astoundingly brilliant in crafting sounds and textures. He writes these parts so carefully and so intimately that you can see he knew the musicians.
Chopin played Gyrowetz's piano cocerto at the age of 8. His teacher Żywny thought children should learn Bach and Mozart. Gyrowetz was regarded as Mozartian.
Je ne dirais pas que c'est étonnant, mais au moins un excellent compositeur inconnu. Sa musique est celle de son temps, avec une personnalité qui la rend autant, sinon plus riche que celle de beaucoup de ses contemporains, (dont W.A Mozart :) Il devrait être mieux connu et joué ;)
In 1818, an eight year old Frédéric François Chopin made his concert debut in Warsaw, Poland, performing this Concerto in F (1796). Gyrowetz composed two Piano Concertos. The Second Concerto was posted in August 2016. Fortunately, both of them are now in RUclips!
"The concert took place in the ballroom of a public building often used for such events, the former Radziwiłł Palace, and Chopin played a concerto by the Czech compoaser Adalbert Gyrowetz. It was his first appearance before such a large audience, and almost certainly the first time he had performed a work of this length."
Do you have a source of this information? I recently read in a book about Chopin that the concert he played in his first public appearance was Gyrowetz' e minor Concerto. There seems to be no mention of such Concerto by this composer anywhere I checked (internet only so far), so it looks like a misprint in the book I read. However I am unable to find any reliable source that confirms which Concerto Chopin actually performed other than your comment.
Szymon Jasiński, Kazimierz Wierzyński says in his book "Życie Chopina" that 8-year old Fryderyk Chopin was playing Gyrowetz' piano concert but he exactly doesn't explain which one it was. At page 66 by Wydawnictwo Literackie 1978. Probably this is the book you mean. I just started it. I don't like the style Wierzyński is using but I'm in love with Chopin's Art so I'm keeping on reading.
Adolfo Ricardo Gallegos i must say it would take a hell of a lot to get me to go to a concert given by an eight year old - when there are so many fine adult performers around
Chopin was playing the e minor concerto, not this one. But is it so beautiful? Actually, it's almost beautiful as Mozart or Beethoven's Piano concerto or Harpsichord concerto. He composed it with very classical style, not romantic like chopin or alkan. It's not the one that Frederic Francis Chopin played, but it is still great in all movements, including Allegro.
Sehr geehrte Frau mirinae 09O4 herzlichen ❤❤❤ vielen Dank für das gesamte Konzerte und das gleiche gilt für den Klavierpieler sehr vitrous sehr begeistert bin ich danke ❤❤❤❤ von Ihnen mit den besten Grüße aus Schallstadt südlich von Freiburg Joachim Ehlers
A gem of the classical idiom. Interesting tô note the treatment of materials through the orchestra, the sonata form and the Mannheim School elements present in many episodes.
Beautiful!
Yes, it's almost Mozart. I am amazed to the core. How many diamonds gave birth to this era. And how we are far from this perfection.
At each era his geniuses the friend .... ;-)
This is not almost Mozart. There are not striking themes, the harmony is conventional and simple and there is little development. I keep coming back to the lesser lights of the Classical era hoping there was something I missed the last time around but sadly this concerto confirmed my initial take. Some occasional nice moments but not too much.
Nice to hear the piano used as a through bass. Mozart also did this, but his intentions are rarely carried out.
Wow!
A true master of melodies!
He was born Vojtěch Jírovec, but since he spent most of his life in Vienna, he seems to have Germanified his name. His birthplace, Budweis, was primarily German speaking at the time as well, so he may have grown up a German speaker. Smetana didn't learn to speak Czech well until the 1860's, having been educated in German.
It's a rather conventional concerto to be mostly considered as a good "training" for beginners at their first public performance. That's why Chopin performed it at his first public show when 8 years old. It was good to know it, nonetheless to improve my knowledge of the taste of that period. Also interesting to notice its Hummel-like style, although it predates the great Hummel concertos (whose reached heights are way too high to be compared with Gyrowetz sample, quite obviously)
It's conventional yes, but to capture the galant persona, that's an entirely dissimilar jeu des manières in regards to technique. I would say that it shows incredible balance between parts, and knowing his string quartets, and symphonies, this composer was astoundingly brilliant in crafting sounds and textures. He writes these parts so carefully and so intimately that you can see he knew the musicians.
Chopin played Gyrowetz's piano cocerto at the age of 8. His teacher Żywny thought children should learn Bach and Mozart. Gyrowetz was regarded as Mozartian.
Thank you for posting this!
Vojtech Jirovec has become an Adalbert Gyrowetz. Was he Czech or was he German?
Instead of Venice, there should have been a scene of Prague (or Warsaw?), since the the spelling seems to indicate a Czech.
The city in the painting is London
The picture is of the London Embankment, with St Paul’s in the distance. Not Venice.
Some chords from first movement sounds like Beethoven Concert no.3
Je ne dirais pas que c'est étonnant, mais au moins un excellent compositeur inconnu. Sa musique est celle de son temps, avec une personnalité qui la rend autant, sinon plus riche que celle de beaucoup de ses contemporains, (dont W.A Mozart :) Il devrait être mieux connu et joué ;)