@@animegurl23579 Keiko tends to shout high notes when she gets excited. Sometimes she sings too aggressively when singing harmonies. And there's also the "cutesy" voice she used when singing upbeat or light-hearted songs, like Love come down, although sometimes she used it in songs where it didn't fit at all. She seems to have fixed these problems though.
3:42 Hikaru mouthing the lyrics of both Wakana and Keiko as they sang and she did choreography. 3:50 Wakana's air punches!!! 4:07 Interesting vowel change from Wakana. 4:42 Keiko excitedly steps in front of everyone at the final chorus! She never does this! She went full pop diva, haha!, rather than the somber/graceful tone of the song. 5:19 Nice ostinato and frill in the bass guitar playing. 5:24 Really light sound from Keiko to match Hikaru. Sweet! (My comments here are just descriptive in terms of the context and my observations as I know and appreciate that they definitely improved on every aspect as they develped experience performing).
Franz V Yeah due to the straining. Do you have any idea on how it may have become this way? People say that one LisAni performance in 2011 where she sounded like this was because she was sick, but she's sounded like that evr since.
I think its just a case of straining her voice (people in theatre and opera have a proper vocal technique to minimize the damage to vocal chords... idk if they have vocal teachers or not. ) or maybe something medical occured that affected her larynx.
yes, nowadays both her head and chest voice seems weaker but I think she improved a lot from the Arena live on. In their 9+one and in the Anniversary live she seemed more confident and with a more stable voice. I'm looking foward for her solo work :)
Sure thing Wakana 'lost a bit of the glow' but i think so did the overall Kalafina. Back then the songs feel 'magical' (this, fairytale, seventh heaven, red moon, etc), and their recent songs feel more....down-to-earth, pop-ish, easy to digest (?)
That curtain drop feels like it has been mistimed. If you listen to the music and when the curtain drops it feels off (curtain falls later than it should imo).
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Coming back here after the announcement of the reunion live to see the first song they ever recorded.
Wakana’s voice was very smooth here.
I'm so excited too, I hope that their relation with Yuki won't get worse
@ I saw a photo a few days ago with Keiko and Hikaru with Kajiura and the FJ team for the Asia tour.
この頃の、wakanaのコーラスは透明感と勢いがあって一番好き。
この曲知ったのKalafina解散した後だったんです。空の境界を小説で読んでから映画があることを知ってその流れでこの曲を知りました。もうliveで聴けないと思うと寂しい……｡
復活してライブやりますよ！
この曲はわかなさんの「あーあー」のメロディーがホントに印象的だし、ご本人も今だに難しいって言ってらっしゃったから年々少し歌い方が変わっても仕方がないと思う。
Omg every member's voice was in its best state. miss those ages
I think Keiko improved a lot with the years, but Wakana and Hikaru voices really sounded healthier back then.
Keiko has definitely improved. She developed some new problems, but they're more in regards to her musicality than bad technique.
agreed!
@@fv1170 what problems are u referring to? out of curiosity
@@animegurl23579 Keiko tends to shout high notes when she gets excited. Sometimes she sings too aggressively when singing harmonies. And there's also the "cutesy" voice she used when singing upbeat or light-hearted songs, like Love come down, although sometimes she used it in songs where it didn't fit at all.
She seems to have fixed these problems though.
なんとなくこのobliviousがめちゃくちゃ好き
ほかの歌い方も好きだけど、これだけなんか違う
Kalafinaが変化する様子が見れていいですね😊
このアクションは「oblivious」にぴったり。他のやつは、なんかアクションがおとなしすぎる。
3:42 Hikaru mouthing the lyrics of both Wakana and Keiko as they sang and she did choreography.
3:50 Wakana's air punches!!!
4:07 Interesting vowel change from Wakana.
4:42 Keiko excitedly steps in front of everyone at the final chorus! She never does this! She went full pop diva, haha!, rather than the somber/graceful tone of the song.
5:19 Nice ostinato and frill in the bass guitar playing.
5:24 Really light sound from Keiko to match Hikaru. Sweet!
(My comments here are just descriptive in terms of the context and my observations as I know and appreciate that they definitely improved on every aspect as they develped experience performing).
冒頭カーテンコール演出いいね～３人共にKalafinaを必死に追及してた時。これ、LIVEでみた人は、歴史の証人ですな～本当の僥倖とは、このこと！
Wakana sings this Oblivious so much better than in later years WOW!!!
Ren her voice changed after 2010. I think it became strained.
@@xrrgr Not just strained, weaker and thinner too.
Franz V Yeah due to the straining. Do you have any idea on how it may have become this way? People say that one LisAni performance in 2011 where she sounded like this was because she was sick, but she's sounded like that evr since.
I think its just a case of straining her voice (people in theatre and opera have a proper vocal technique to minimize the damage to vocal chords... idk if they have vocal teachers or not. ) or maybe something medical occured that affected her larynx.
@@moonlightstripess she still sounds great now though,
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ワカナさんの 羽ばたく時が怖くて〜 の部分、本当に怖がってるように聞こえて感動した。昔の歌い方は抑揚がある感じだなぁ…
この頃のわかなさんの歌い方、リズム取りとか発声は今より雑かもしれないけど、その分おもいきりのいい歌い方になってて、延びが良いから彼女の声質の良さが良く表れ手いるんだと思う。今の歌い方は統制がとられすぎてて窮屈に感じるし、その分伸びやかさがないから、魅力が十分に感じ取れなくなっているように思う。大好きだからこそ、残念だ。
浜島
私は最近のワカナさんの声質が変わったように感じました。
特にこの曲を歌うと今の声は違和感があります。
この頃は悲愴感のある独特の声でしたが、
最近は透き通るような高音になってしまって、この頃の曲と声が合ってないように思うのですが、私だけでしょうか？
さいとうゆうき
表現が難しいですが確かに今の声は「男の人がふざけてダンディな発声、喉を絞って発声している」様に聞こえますね
この頃は鼻にかかった声なので好きな人は恋しく感じる声かもしれませんね
銭形 銭形
それですね！
私が好きだったのは鼻にかかった用な感じの声質だったみたいです。
それが私の中では悲愴感に感じたので、この曲に合ってたんだと思います。
ヒカルも最初の頃のような高温は出ないみたいですし、皆さん声は変わるんですね…。
wakanaさんの最初のコーラスがめちゃくちゃ悲劇すぎて凄い
初見です。みんな若い！当たり前ですが・・・発声もアクションも中後半とは異なり新鮮です。WakanaはFJでも初期の頃でしょうからキーが高いというか大人になる前の声ですね。Wakanaフリークはなんでも好きですが。Keikoさんはまだドスが効いてない(笑)、控えめ？。Hikaruは後期よりこちらの方が綺麗な声に感じます。激しい歌唱パートが多かったから後期は喉を痛めたのでしょうね。アクションは、中後期から知った者にはちょっとびっくり！アグレッシブですね。アップありがとうございます。感謝！
確かに！
発声もアクションも。
それから、ちょっと、ふっくらしている。
4:59 is my favorite scene. Cheerful Keiko contrast with calm Wakana and Hikaru. And the cheerful Keiko she forgot to keep her mic stable XD
最後のサビの部分、Keikoがヴェールをピッと弾くとこなんか好きだった
멤버들 목소리가 정말 매력적입니다. 편곡도 좋고 사운드도 좋고 정말 세계적인 음악입니다
Old Kalafina has cheerful มากๆเลย ชอบสมัยก่อนดู Live แล้วสนุกดี
最初に知ったのは『黒執事』１期のエンディングで聞いてアニメでのファンになりました。
当時 私はコーラス部にいたので、こんなにもハーモニーが揃って歌声も美しいのに凄く憧れました( T∀T)
解散したのは残念ですが、いつか復活して3人で歌を披露して欲しいです♀_(`O`)♪
I prefer the vocals of this era.
I prefer the Band's playing or instrumental in the recent lives.
I completely forgot that Hikaru could sing so high.
I miss old Wakana
神曲
みんなかわいいな
Wakana voice had a magical feeling back then
She used to have a "strong woman" kind of voice. And her head voice used to be quite pretty.
yes, nowadays both her head and chest voice seems weaker but I think she improved a lot from the Arena live on. In their 9+one and in the Anniversary live she seemed more confident and with a more stable voice. I'm looking foward for her solo work :)
Sure thing Wakana 'lost a bit of the glow' but i think so did the overall Kalafina. Back then the songs feel 'magical' (this, fairytale, seventh heaven, red moon, etc), and their recent songs feel more....down-to-earth, pop-ish, easy to digest (?)
That’s what happens as you age tho
เวอร์ชั่นนี้ก็ดีนะ เสียงคุณ Wakana ไม่สูงมากตอนเริ่มแรก
3:10
Epic!
3:23
Hikaru estava tão adorável
Sim, não tem como não se encantar!
+Andrey Carvalho exatamente 😻
kalafina声线最美ww
That curtain drop feels like it has been mistimed. If you listen to the music and when the curtain drops it feels off (curtain falls later than it should imo).
No, the "explosion" was right on time.
Hikaruさんの声の伸び凄いな
From when is this?
Cloud I think it's from one of the earlier FictionJunction concerts. They were the "opening group" so to speak
Seventh Heaven DVD 2008
I think it's 2012
Definitely sounds different on the Seventh Heaven release
@@TomalakGeretkalnah this looks older than 2012
My opinion is, sound now is weaker, but smoother
このライブDVDって発売されてますか？
Seventh Heavenの限定版のDVDに収録されてますよ。
@@0624sdi ありがとうございます！
これってハイヤーセルフの世界だと思う。