The matter of ahruf and qiraat is even more proof for qurans divine nature. There was no one mode of recitation but rather Allah made it easy for recitation for different tribes of that time
@@israelisthechosenwdym we can’t know and agree?? We absolutely can and evidence of taut is the prophet sa himself stating there are 7 ahruf of the Quran and us being able to trace down the 10 quraa (transmitters) with authenticity.
Also YQ is right. Few if any of us can tell the difference between qiraat and ahruf, and how the manuscripts and oral tajweed worked and are transcribed. Most people were not literate throughout history, the Quran was preserved in memory and still is. The text imitates the recitation, not the other way around.
@Abou Hamzah explain me the difference between ahruf and Qiraat. Which ahruf still exist today? Do you even study any qiraat besides the Hafs or do you just like to stay ignorant? If you don't know the difference, YQ was 100% right and Muslims need to know this because the haters of Islam are using a criticism that even Muslims fail to understand. Case in point all the haters and Christians spamming RUclips with their videos and comments.
@Abou Hamzah he clarified his comments because the Salafi haters are all jumping on him at the same time, for admitting ahruf and Qiraat are something most people don't even remotely understand, and this real ignorance is why Salafi and Christians are making a big scene, because they want people to remain ignorant and so that way they won't learn anything. Tell me, how many qiraat do you study besides the Hafs? Since YQ was being vague and you know exactly what he's talking about.
@@irreview do you believe the major salafi scholars are not aware of a difference between ahruf and Qiraat? Stop blaming 'salafism' for everything you don't like about contemporary islam. The fact is Yasir Qadhi's statements were received by many muslim laypeople as threatening to their iman and at the very least confusing. It has nothing to do with the validity of his position, rather his choice of words and delivery.
@@Selektur poor choice of words and delivery. I agree. Stupid is the word , because the fat missionaries on RUclips are making mountains out of molehills here.
I’m confused how this is an answer to Yasir Qadhi...you can’t honestly believe Yasir Qadhi doesn’t already know of all this. A beginner student of Qirā’āt knows all of these points.
the issue is about things like this: "The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers..." "...In some Qiraats, like that of Ubai ibn Kab, occur also the word *"and he is a father to them..."* (A. Yusuf Ali, The Holy Quran, 1975, note 3674). - *"He is a father to them,"* but it is *no longer* recited since it is *at variance* with the version of ‘Uthman. -(Muhammad Messenger of Allah (Ash-Shifa of Qadi 'Iyad), Qadi 'Iyad Musa al-Yahsubi, translated by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley [Madinah Press, Inverness, Scotland, U.K. 1991] - Surat 33:6 "The Prophet has a higher claim on the believers than [they have on] their own selves, [seeing that *he is as a father to them]* and his wives are their mothers…" -Muhammad Asad translation actually re-inserts this back into Quran.
Al-Jazari had a very good observation regarding the “ahruf”. He said in his study of all of the shaz variant readings, he noticed that there were only 7 different “types of differences” in all of them, and no more. For instance “maaliki vs maliki” would be 1 type of difference, “siraat” vs “ziraat” would be one, “Izaa jaa a nasrulllahi wal fath” vs “izaa jaa a fathullahi wal nasr” would be another. Synonyms being used yet another (ihnil manfoosh vs soofin manfoosh in al-qariah is likely an example). Different dialect would be a 1 type of ahruf (alayhim vs alayhumu) The reason why the diacritics were not developed for the uthmani text earlier was to actually accommodate variant readings for that particular consonental skeleton, but there were likely different consonental skeletons too. What Muslims need to realize is that these differences are trivial, and do not contradict the idea that our rasool taught it in different ways. And that these differences complement and enhance the Quran by providing nuance, rather than contradict.
@@israelisthechosenhow stupid are you. You expect the Arabs who receive the Qur'an should have received English, Spanish and Italian versions as well? The Quran is preserved through memorisation. You think the Arabs could memorise 6000+ English verses?
Dear brothers Sheykh Qadhi refers to the doubt as a result of the difference between what he was told about the preservation and the later specifics about the actual preservation. Which most of us are all learning now with ahruf and qira’at al hamdulillah. Let’s be honest with ourselves, I once thought: the Qur’an is preserved in 1 single version without any differences, after learning first about qira’at and ahruf, it is human nature to think: what is going on here? So Qadhi doesn’t doubt the preservation. Doubt might occur after first hearing about the specifics, yet later, the doubt disappeared. Sheikh Qadhi was a little too open about his doubts for a teacher I humbly think. He shouldn’t, but I think he tries to explain the process which all students of knowlegde might go trough as he did. We are all humans dear brothers. We all go through processes, also sheikhs and teachers. Having doubts is 100% human nature. Abu bakr as siddiq ra was called as siddiq for a reason, because he stood above the masses, even amongst the sahaba.
I agree with you bro. He did not quote the Hadith in context but his overall point was correct. We should learn more qiraat, personally and in an academic way. We neglect them. besides quoting half the Hadeeth, he was not trying to say anything but that. Qiraat is a deep and complicated matter which is not studied enough. I study the Warsh every day so I can sympathize. But to most people, he said the dumbest thing possible.
@Yonis Ali yeah that was dumb of him. He has to eat his shoe now. But look I thank Allah because now I understand the qiraat and ahruf much better now, I studied this topic until it made sense to me, and the non Muslims have wasted alot of time "disproving" the Quran by showing a single alif out of place. So they have spent less time attacking Aisha and things , and instead argue with Muslims about something which they know nothing about and which in fact proves our religion. So inshallah we will be stronger as a community, but people are spending loads of time attacking YQ, and Christians in exaggerating the meaning of what he said. God has used this to expose the foolish Christians , and also to remind Muslims to be learned about the impeccable transmission of the Quran. They plot and they plan, but God is the best of planners.
@@irreview We are doing the same thing muslims do when they quote Bart Erhman, Its only fair to point out someone at the highest level of academia is having serious doubts about the preservation of the Quran to the point where he is afraid to even mention the issues on camera for fear of weakening the Iman of muslims, in essence he is saying Ignorance is bliss.
@@WhosthatHotspice He says a companion had doubt about this matter. Because he was not aware of other recitations. -- Ehrman openly says Matthew Mark Luke and John were not written by their respective authors. You cannot even compare the shakiness of the implications being discussed. One is a doubt about the Islamic traditional narrative. The other is a clear rejection of the Christian traditional narrative. Keep dreaming that your Bible was preserved as well as our holy book. But if you want to admit both were preserved with nearly perfect ways, with minor differences that should not trouble the faith of a believer today, I will agree with you on that. But you can't say YQ denounced the Muslim narrative the way Ehrman rejects your openly. You can say both texts went through a period of codification and compilation.
To be fair the only reason Yasir Qadhi talked about these doubts publicly was because some other brothers leaked his private emails to try and expose him, he had no intention himself of making the issue public but now he had to deal with it publicly.
Very interesting discussion. The subjects of the Ahruf/qiraat have been widely discussed since the earliest days of Islam. It is true that most common Muslims are not educated regarding these topics. All the discussions of Muslim Scholars on this subject have all arrived at the same conclusion. That the Quran we have today is indeed the exact preserved speech of God. They have different opinions regarding the nature or definition of what exactly constitutes the term Ahruf however their conclusions are all the same. The Quran was preserved as is verifiable through the written texts that have been carbon dated to the times that Islam was revealed and also through the Oral preservation in an unbroken chain from millions of Hufaz(those that know the text by heart). It is true that many Muslims need to educate themselves more regarding these and many other Islamic topics.
Of course, most folks may not know Arabic, but just read the translation in English, and you'll know it's the same across all forms of recitation. This exemplifies the beauty of the Quran and the Arabic language in which it was revealed.
Ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “You will never tell a people anything that they do not understand but it will be a cause of confusion for some of them.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari.
I have made a video using a simple analogy in English to help explain Ahruf and Qiraat. Please like, share etc so this fitnah and unnecessary confusion can be removed. ruclips.net/video/CGi6w_-uREw/видео.html
Anas narrated: The Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) would often say: Ya Muqallibal-qulub, thabbit qalbi 'ala dinik('O Changer of the Hearts! Strengthen my heart upon Your Religion.)' So I said: 'O Prophet of Allah! We believe in you and what you have come with, but do you fear for us?' He said: 'Yes. Indeed the hearts are between two Fingers of Allah's Fingers, He changes them as He wills.' Trimidi 2140
Spreading arab religion to non arab in a " PEACEFUL WAY" Sahih al-Bukhari 3167 Narrated Abu Huraira: While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet (ﷺ) came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle." Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3167In-book reference : Book 58, Hadith 9 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 53, Hadith 392 The illiterate arab messenger is an extortionist 😮
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JzakAllah khayran for that insightful video. To me, the closest example would be of a book I.e. Harry Potter, read in British English and American English; both books are considered standard English but they are different. Also, if Americans spell colour as "color", that hasn't changed the meaning of the word. These so-called critics are doing gymnastics with the head.
You are seemed confused between translation (or evolving in language) versus the original language (original words). Muslims told that Quran is preserved, including dots, comma, etc. But the variations on 37 qurans tells the opposite, they have different in meaning, words, comma, dots, etc. The conclusion, there is noone could exactly certain quran (from those 37 variants) that muhammad recited before.
@@Aris-lb9zv Not really. The criticisms are mere exaggeration. For example, how is the difference between maalik and malik? The root is the same. Another example is in hafs an Aasim qiraat in Quran 2:10, the last word in the ayah can be read yakdhiboun, but in Warsh an Nafi yukadhiboun. Once again, different pronunciation but the root of the words are identical. And yes, we are 100% sure the Prophet Muhammad pbuh transmitted these, as Sheikh Asrar has thoroughly argued.
Only a lie needs lies upon lies to explain it. Truth is easy to comprehend. This is only getting started for the dismantling of centuries of lies upon lies. The more they try to explain lies with lies, the more confusion they create.
The Qur'an is over 1400 years old brought forth by a desert dwelling people in a largely historically insignificant place. Yet this book predicts that it will be preserved, when no one outside of a few hundred people cared or believed what it said at that time and place. And now we have a standardized version of this book, widely accessible and memorized and read all around the world . Regardless of any real or imagined "holes" in the narrative, the Qur'an is here and the prediction has come true. No one disputes that the Qur'an claims to be preserved and this claim was always a part of the Qur'an. The Qur'an even made this claim that it will be preserved before it was even completed during the life of the Prophet Muhammad. Who would even dare make such a bold claim? Yet here we are debating whether this claim was true or not when the Qur'an should not have stood the test of time in any other circumstance. Yet, the Qur'an being debated is the one Qur'an. Whatever variation in font, diacritical marks or recitation styles do not change anything in the meaning or message or theology of the Qur'an. The Qur'an is one. The Star Spangled Banner is sung and recited and interpreted and re-worded a million different ways yet it has a standard version, and a long version that few know, despite millions memorizing it, and it is a song only a few stanzas long that was written in the era of the printing press. The Qur'an is over 6660 verses long and it is here as one written and memorized text revealed in an era of poems and oral traditions. Despite this, there are no longer or shorter or hidden or alternate lesser known versions of it. Yes, it's certainly true that a game of telephone will produce dozens of variations to one sentence along one chain of a dozen people. Multiply those variations exponentially when spread over hundreds of chains involving thousands of people passing along thousands of phrases and verses. Simple math would dictate millions of possible variations with gross disparity among them. Yet here we are, with one Quran. If that isn't a miraculous example of preservation, then I don't really know what is. The existence of narrations that point to possible holes is actually proof that a) The Muslims are honest and didn't cover up controversies and b) that the preservation could have gone wrong but it never did. I'm surprised there aren't more narrations, and that itself is a miracle. So is the the fact that there aren't hundreds of variants of a book that was largely orally transmitted over the course of 1400 years! This is unprecedented in human history. It defies all probability that Muslims today have one uniform Qur'an in all corners of the globe when the Muslims never had a central authority after the Rashidun Khalifate and were ruled by dozens of different dynasties, with their own centers of knowledge and scholarly and academic and clerical institutions. So yes, it is hard to believe that it is possible, but here is the Qur'an, just like it predicted about itself to a bunch of desert dwelling Arabs who had no idea how they would overcome the pagan Meccan leadership and survive, let alone fathom how we would still be reading that same book, hundreds of years later.
The knowledge is leaps and bound brother.. The East don’t know brother.. The meaning no one knows.. The evolution of the Quran.. bless you brother for being truthful
Not only that, the meaning of that hadith was pointing to the 'tajweed' of Ubay bin kab, the prophet peace be upon him said "if you want to hear how the Qur'an was sent down listen to Ubay bin kab" meaning his tajweed or recitation sounds the most accurate.
@@user-fi9dk3gt6d there were 7 ahruf , all equally valid. And the argument is, he later in life became forgetful. It is commendable our history even records such details.
@Yonis Ali yeah so I saw bro Hajji rebuttal. He did misconstrue the timing of that Hadeeth. It was during the life of the Prophet, not during Uthman when he allegedly had those doubts. It was red meat to the haters , those fat Christians on RUclips are already all over it. That's why brother Hijab corrected him right away. He saw the storm coming. I liked the point he made though. Ordinary Muslims ought to know the difference between ahruf and Qiraat. Dumb way of making it though, borrowing the word of Sahaba to make your academic point. No wonder the Salafis call him a fake scholar. Too much Yale. He's not a fake scholar though. Just put his foot in his mouth and refused to take it out.
5:00 Ahruf - A letter is added into recitation Qira'aat - Transmission of Quran from companions. 6:30 Differences in Qira'at are due to the Ahruf 13:13 Qiraat 13:18 Ahruf - different dialects
Qiraat is recitation. Ahruf is letters. The fact that there is a difference means you don't get that the text was a recited memory first. Then written down. YQ was just pointed this out. Nothing to be mad about bro.
Shaykh Asrar says here: "any differing that is found is due to the ahruf. But we will not say the ahruf and Qiraat are the same thing. You can say that differences in the qiraat are due to the ahruf. But that is something else..." Shaykh Asrar then proceeds to refute the Christians attacking the Quran. But whoever made this video failed to see YQ was making the same point as shaykh Asrar is here!
Yeah the last minute of the lecture makes no sense. The Qur'aa are different than the ahruf. Ahruf is due to dialect, but if the qari learned it from rasulallah himself, and the qari were all in agreement then how did the reciters get differences through the text, if they probably never learned from the mushaf anyway?
As a ✝️, Textual variants are Not a problem because we believe The Multiple Variants in the Bible do Not negate infallibility. We don’t believe The Scripture are inerrant/flawless Simply BECAUSE Man is Not flawless. But The Message is preserved. So sad! This Yasir Qadi, ☪️SCHOLAR-Approved “Holes in the Narrative” & Ahruf/Qiraat issues WOULDNT exist, if… IF you Sheikhs hadn’t told ANYONE & EVERYBODY that there’s “Only 1 Koran”. You have so many Apostates BECAUSE you Muslims “shoot yourselves in the foot” because you make absolute claims on The Koran that YOU, YOURSELVES have put on The Umma!!! What a shame.
Mo Hijab to Yasir Qadhi: "If you were given a blank page and were asked to write down the recitation exactly as it was revealed to the Prophet, which Qiraat would be the correct one?" to which he backed down and refused to comment. The claim of letter-by-letter preservation is highly questionable. At best, the message/meaning may have been preserved but there are grey areas even here.
@Yonis Ali Did he lose credibility before or after the interview, did he lose his scholarly title simply for being frank about these issues? Are you sure he did not finish his studies? Look again before you discredit the man. Of all the apologists I have come accross, he is more upfront and honest than most, if not all...
@Yonis Ali He defended Aisha's age when everyone else was lying about it for example (fact that she was 9 when she moved in with the Prophet). He quite admirably said people must accept it and move on, it is what it is. Oh and btw, he has a *PhD in Islamic Studies* and also served as Deen at AlMaghrib Institute... that is right up there in terms of scholarly credentials...
@Yonis Ali Your replies are being cut off and I see only an elipse, please paste just the link. And who are you referring to when you say "non-Muslim trying to teach you Islam"?
Yasir qhadi has become a get way for none Muslims to attack Islam.It's not about talking too long without a proper explanation. If it is not your field why do you criticize it when you know you don't have much knowledge about it.
Even if it's not his specialty, he can still ask questions and talk about those in any way or forum he wants to. Telling someone to be silent because it's not his specialty is not the way to go. The way to go is to give reply and correct the assumptions and knowledge he has, or lack of it. And from what I heard from muslims, He is one of the most respected scholar, so he must know better than you and I, at least.
At 6:22, Shaykh Asrar says here: "any differing that is found is due to the ahruf. But we will not say the ahruf and Qiraat are the same thing. You can say that differences in the qiraat are due to the ahruf. But that is something else..." Shaykh Asrar then proceeds to refute the Christians attacking the Quran, for different diacritics or orthography. But whoever made this video failed to see YQ was making the same point as shaykh Asrar is here!
The style of writing is the same or it’s different but the meaning is the same. Mate, this makes no sense whatsoever. Why don’t you just come up with the honest truth. There are and were many different versions of the Quran and that is simply unacceptable given the Islamic principle of the uniqueness unchanged And directly dictated by God nature of this book guys I think you are in trouble now with the Internet everyone is starting to see through your game
@@basilhendricks788 , thats because you dont understand basic things. All the variants of the qiraat were sanctioned and authenticated by the prophet himself. So, not a letter differs from the quran that was revealed to the prophet. Whats hard to understand ?
@IDRECE GHADIE This is not correct as the Consents have also been changed in some cases your comment only makes sense in the modern world long after vowelization was introduced.
@@abdulaimukaje5503 , not true. Thats because your knowledge in ulum al quran ie weak, that you keep spouting what other bigots before you said without even checking for evidence.
The below statement is potentially wrong. I may have gotten some parts wrong. Thought I'll let you know. I'm not a scholar "the Final Prophet recited the Noble Quran in many variants for the different tribes but all had the same meaning. For example in urban english in London the word 'sick' or 'bad' is describing something as good. I myself say 'that is a bad car' which means that is a good car. But the words in the variants weren't opposites like the exmaple I've given. It's simple."
Quran mentioned that there are decisive and allegorical verses. So, people are arguing things that they dont know for sure, and then resorted to Hadiths to substantiate etc claims (a great number hadith had been rejected, the so called non-authentic hadiths, speaks volume of its unreliability). Quran 3v7 ..... But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except God. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and *none will grasp the Message except men of understanding*
May Allah bless and strengthen you shaykh asrar. Wallahi we need more scholars coming out addressing this, orientalists have always used semantics to cause doubt.
Dr yasir Qadi was right. You can see for yourself that this hadith confused the greatest ulama of Islam. That's the reason for 40 opinions on this hadith.
Lol, Dr. Yasir Qadhi is being refuted by everybody now, left right and centre. From Salafis, to Deobandis, to Barelwis, to Atharis, to Asharis...all kind of united, in their own independent way, if that makes sense haha
Dr yasir qadhi didnt wat to answer it because the bulk of the people dont understand it thats why he didnt. This is a discussion between scolars/people who have knowledge about it.........
I only sent this message as I see in the comments many people are saying the snippets do not explain in detail about the situation Yasir is perhaps referring to
Different Qiraat, who wonders in 37:12? 37:12 Hafs Quran: But you wonder, while they mock, Muhammad wonders 37:12 Al-Doori Quran But I wonder, while they mock, Allah wonders 37:12 Abu Al-Harith Quran But I wonder, while they mock, Allah wonders 37:12 Khalaf Quran But I wonder, while they mock, Allah wonders
Seems like a really complex way for Allah to preserve and protect his book. Looks more like the work of humans trying to preserve a book they THINK is divine. How is a non Muslim meant to determine what really happened if even scholars can't agree. There are 40+ scholarly opinions on what 'ahruf' means! Great.
Of course, you may not know Arabic, but just read the translation in English, and you'll know it's the same across all forms of recitation. This exemplifies the beauty of the Quran and the Arabic language in which it was revealed.
Truth has come to the people. Will they accept the harsh truth and denounce Islam or will they cling to their cherished lies and hold on to Islam. Being ignorant is ok with God, to this He winks but to Deny truth without a proper investigation is something we all have to fear!
Salam alaikom sheikh, I am Qu'ran and Qur'anic science schollar, please, would be to able to remove this video from yourtube coz doesnt not explain on correct what 7 ahruf are, it is confusing so , better to revome it than have it here . Salam...
EDITED: Actually, the meanings does change among qira’at’s. For instance, Sura 5:6, speaking of ablution, if it is read in one particular version, there is *no need to wash the feet, rather, just to wipe them* . On another version, *you do have to wash the feet* . EDITED: Another example would be in one version, ablution is done when there has been *sexual intercourse* . On another version, ablution is done if they have *kissed and touched each other* . So which one is the correct directive?
Yasser is worried about the western academics who are ignorant about Quran and the Arabic language...and yasser limited faith and knowledge plus the affect of orientalists lead him to doubt alot of issues around Islam ...We pray to Allah to guide him to the right path
@zx82 The only reason YQ is so afraid to explain what these problems are is because he can't defend his points yet. Inshallah the other scholars will refute anything these orientialists / western scholars come up with to attack the Qu'ran. YQ must be really arrogant to think that he has discovered something that 1400 years of scholars were blind to.
watch the whole video not jus 3 minutes snippet of the video which you can watch in yassir qadhi's.channel. he said even the most advance scholar can't answer the questions by the western scholar. the question is what was the eternal book in heaven given to muhammad? warsh, hafs, al doori or rawh version? for example in surah 98.6, in hafs "creatures" and in warsh said "innocents", which is right? if there's changes in words, it means quran failed surah 6.34, surah 6.115 and surah 85.22 that allah won't allow to change the word. surah 1.4, surah 3.146 are not the same word between hafs and warsh. how about differences betweem hafs and surah 46.15 between hafs and al-doori. there are 1000+ difference between hafs and warsh. if the word change like in surah 98.6 between hafs and warsh, it has different meaning and it emans different context.
@Uthman ThaLayman it means you don't have idea what is in hafs vs warsh or al-doori. check warsh vs hafs quran for surah 98.6 and many more. check this site the difference between warsh and and hafs www.ugr.es/~mreligio/bibliografia/Green.Samuel_The-different-arabic-versions-of-the-Quran.pdf also why uthman burnt other 6 version of quran and retain one if all this recitations come from allah and spoke by muhammad? which version that was eternally kept by your allah in heaven? abdullah masud is one of the best to learn recitation in sahih bukhari below : sunnah.com/bukhari/62/106 Narrated Masruq: "Abdullah (bin Mas`ud) was mentioned before` Abdullah bin `Amr. The latter said, "That is a man I continue to love because I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying, 'Learn the recitation of the Qur'an from (any of these) four persons:` Abdullah bin Masud, Salim the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa, Ubai bin Ka`b, and Mu`adh bin Jabal. " I do not remember whether he mentioned Ubai first or Mu`adh. why abdulah masud told to muslims to conceal the musahif they had if the quran whichn utman had was the right recitiation in sahih bukhari sunnah.com/urn/641130 Az-Zuhri said: '' Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah bin' Utbah informed me that 'Abdullah bin Mas'ud disliked Zaid bin Thabit copying the Musahif, and he said:' O you Muslim people! I am removed from recording the transcription of the Mushaf and it is overseen by a man, by Allah, when I accepted Islam he was but in the loins of a disbelieving man '- meaning Zaid bin Thabit - and it was regarding this' Abdullah bin Mas'ud said: 'O people of Al-'Iraq! Keep the Musahif that are with you, and conceal them. why not speak to sheik yassir qadhi who is dean of academic international islamic study that who started this and said even the most advanced islamic scholar can't answer different ahruf and qiraat? are you islamic scholar? even only one different word between hafs vs warsh vs rawh vs al-doori exist, quran preservation is invalid and quran is not from GOD but from false god allah and false prophet muhammad because the book contradicted itselft because surah 6.34, surah 6.115 and surah 15.9 were failed. are you scholar like dr yassir qadhi? quran claimed that its perfect tablet surah 85.22 comes from heaven and there's no contradiction in quran surah 4.82, but how come allah allowed SHAYTAN for muhamnad to speak SATANIC VERSES surah 53.19-20 and surah 22.52, 18.1, 41.42 while quran was in heaven before given to muhammad? see link below for tafsir surah 22.52 www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=86&tSoraNo=22&tAyahNo=52&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2 another contradiction in quran,, quran claimed that SHAYTAN has no authority to slave of allah surah 15.42 but how come allah allowed SHAYTAN to control muhammad and bewitched? see link below as an example from sahih bukhari // Bewitched and magic worked on prophet sunnah.com/bukhari/58/17 Narrated Aisha: Once the Prophet (ﷺ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done. sunnah.com/bukhari/76/79 Narrated Aisha: Magic was worked on Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not (Sufyan said: That is the hardest kind of magic as it has such an effect). sunnah.com/bukhari/80/86 Narrated `Aisha: that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was affected by magic, so much that he used to think that he had done something which in fact, he did not do, and he invoked his Lord (for a remedy). //which allah created first heaven or earth? it seems allah is not all knowing at all because he forgot which he created first earth or heavens it looks like allah forgot which he created first earth or heaven? in quran surah 41.9-12 earth is created first in 2 days before the heaven and in surah 79.27-33 allah created heaven first before earth? what kind of allah that cannot remember what he created first that surahs contradicted each other?
@@stargategoku on you so called "contradiction" about the creation of heaven and the earth, 41:9-12 clearly states that the Earth was created first and the Heaven thereafter. 79:27-33 clearly states that Earth was 'spreaded' after Heavens were created. How can one confuse spreading and creating for meaning the same thing is beyond me and I wouldn't even waste my time in trying to justify anything. More Proof: Re-read the verses. 41:10 states that Mountains were placed on earth and provisions were determined and blessed for its creatures. 79:31-33 states that He extracted from its (Earth's) waters, pasters and mountains provisions. Note how Mountains were already there at the time of extraction. I fail to see anything contradicting.. infact the reading a few extra verses validates that it all makes perfect sense. As for the other questions/claims, I'm not knowledgeable enough to answer.
A mistake from my part. In Islam we need to define the words we are using because Allaah is not like the Creation. Sometimes the Christians want us Muslims to explain Islam in the style they have chosen to explain Christianity. We shouldn’t fall for this.
Quran is reveled in the original arabic so to understand it you need to go through language concept it self Language: is the principal method of human communication, consisting of words used in a structured and conventional way and conveyed by speech, writing, or gesture. --------------------- The majority of arabs in that time were illiterate "few people read/write" yet they spoke fluent & were poets When they wrote long poems it was non diacritical Why? Since all tribes of arabs were fluent whether illiterate or not & would mostly transverse poetry verbally or would read a non diacritical text easily & understand it fully without error the need of diacritical system didn't exist --------------------- #Arabic Diacritical System# It existed among the arab since 634 or 22 hijri But wasn't obligatory for the reasons i meationed before The diacritical marking was developed since then for Ajam "non arabs" due to the expansion of muslims & librations of cities that started in Omar bin Al khatab 2nd caliph time. So these non arabs that accepted Islam they were unable to read the Quran properly & correctly. The system devoloped in its current form the time of Ali bin Abi Talib 4th caliph until the umayyad caliphate Abulmalik bin marwan & in his time the first diacritical Quran was written What is diacritical in the arabic texture 1. Its the addition of a dot on certain vowels 2. Damah (ُ ) fatha (َ ) kasrah ( ِ ) 3. If two together Tanween (ٌ ً ٍ. ) Again these addition were for non arabs to be able to pronounce properly Summery: with or without the diacritical system the pronouncation & speech is the same & most if not all native arabs can read non diacritical text today with varying degrees ------------------------ Quran revelation: God reveled the Quran in stages & in different modes of recitation or qira'at to the prophets muhammed peace be upon him through the angel Gabriel verbally it wasn't a text or a book that was given to him Then the prophet peace be upon him verbally transmitted it to well known companions & they memorized it & he called them to write it down on different materials & then read back to him & it was written in the different recitations that was reveled & we know today This is an example of a scribe of non diacritical quranic text converted into a diacritical text almudarabah.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Birmingham-Quran-Episode-1-Scan-4.jpg ----------------------- Authoritive evidence: sunnah.com/mishkat/8/104 sunnah.com/bukhari/59/30 sunnah.com/urn/46690 d1.islamhouse.com/data/ar/ih_poster/single_01/ar_Asaned_alquran.jp Taken from book سلسلة اسانيد القران The Quran chain of naration (Isnad) ----------------------- Qira'at Well explained here ruclips.net/video/8hj7u0F3yEg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/AnI5gvYYaBU/видео.html ----------------------- Conclusion: Since the Quran that Allah revealed to the prophets mohammed peace be upon him has been verbally transmitted, memorized & written in the different modes Ahruf & recitations Qira'at with variations in text & pronunciation that expand meaning & adds to the eloquency & beauty of the Quran through the versatile arabic language without any contradictions shape or form & has been transmitted to us through authentic continous chains of narrators in every recitation unchanged & completely preserved. ----------------------- Why the Torah "old testament" & Injeel "gospel or Bible" have been proven to have been unpreserved? 1.The consensus is that 2 verses in John 5:7 & timothy 3:16 is a fabrication by Christian scholars 2. The original language of these text are not spoken anymore & different than the translation 3. There have been many accounts of contradictions 0kp C. How many fighting men were found in Judah? Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) These are clear contradictions of facts & prove some of it are due to human errors since it wasn't written in the time of the moses jesus or their decibels & was subject to change since no one memorized it completely There are way more examples www.answering-christianity.com/101_bible_contradictions.htm 4. Since no memorization occured in the generations of these text or original book the possibility of a change in the text to go unnoticed is very high -------------------------- Highly recommend book to read if you are looking for the truth in depth The History of the Qur'ānic Text: From Revelation to Compilation : a Comparative Study with the Old and New Testaments Book by Muhammad Mustafa Azmi
Its illogical not to record the original content and just go by memory. This is costing huge problems today. The pride of easy memorization has caused the fall. From the start the focus should have been content and not memorization.
From the beginning the Qur’an was written down AND memorized. The prophet pbuh had at least 40 scribes who wrote down the Qur’an a side if memorization. The same material is used to compile the codex of Abu Bakr RA which on it’s turn was used for the Uthmanic codex. A side of that the companions memorized the Qur’an from cover to cover and had students. So your claim is false about the “fall” because of the focus on memorization and not also the written form.
@@slugakristov8343 No, he is suddenly having one of his 'Holocaust denial' moments as he did before. This guy's judgement was already wracked from the beginning. Now he is suddenly fussing about something that has been studied extensively inside out for centuries. His head is loose and lost his brain.
جزاك الله خير sheikh asrar for defending the quran. For further information watch mohammed hijabs podcast with ustadh Abdulrahman. Please don't see this as a point to spark Controversy between the Muslim sects. We are all together in support of the quran's preservation.
Stay away from Islam bro. A religion that hides things from you is not a good one. Christianity has undergone all kinds of scrutiny. We have nothing to hide. What you see is what you get. Jesus Christ told us to love everyone, even those who hate and persecute us.
@@BO0O0M650 When Jesus said he is the way, the truth and the light, it's true: he is saying that my message of following God is the true and righteous path to God. And you should follow his actions and believe in his message that God bought down through Jesus. This passage says absolutely nothing about Jesus as being God or a deity. He is just saying follow my message as it will lead you to God. How is this even remotely saying that I am god, worship me??? The Council of Niceae, the Roman emperor Constantine and Paul is to blame for this horrendous lie of Jesus divinity. Constantine wanted to appease his pagan worshiping citizens so he and the council came up with the more pagan multi-theist version of Jesus for appeasement and for the sake of politics. By declaring Jesus to be divine they have gone against the very message of what Jesus himself preached, the oneness of God Their actions have caused billions to go astray and only if you knew what their tortured dead souls are going through right now.
Wallahi Qur'an was revealed in only one Harf. Those who say it was revealed in more than one Harf are liars and fabricators. There is no one in this world who can explain the fabricated hadees of 7 ahrufs. Shias only believe in one Harf that's mutawatir.
Shaykh please help me!!!! I want know about shaykh nazim al Haqqani.. He is misguided because he says that he can look the awrah of the women and so many womens kissed his hand how is it possible Our habib pbuh doesn't do Please study their tariqa and guide us May reward for your da'wa allahAmeen ya rabbal alameen
This answer is quite confusing. We want to know where is the Quran which is written in 6th or 7th century. Western world is looking for the answer or proof from that century. And you are giving them answers from late 9th or 10th century. Yasir Qadi is right that western world knowledge on Islam is far beyond Eastern world.
The question you should be asking as a Muslim is: why are your scholars lying and hiding things from you? Do your own research my friend and the truth will come out, that's all I'm gonna say
Come back to Qur'an alone - the hafs. Leave all hadith outside. The hafs - read by 90%+ muslim population is the revelation. Hadith confuse everyone with this talk of qira'at and ahruf. Allah revealed, and this is every muslims axiomatic belief, the Qur'an and He has preserved it (90%+). Humans were always going to alter it, but we know that in hafs it is preserved. Leave hadith - its Qur'an ONLY, not Qur'an + Peace
Yasir Qadhi has diseases in his heart which are coming out slowly like making dua to a dead person is not shriek, the existence of Yajuj & Majuj is hard to swallow. A good book to raed about seven ahruf and 10 qira'at is "Variant Readings of the Qur'an" by Ahmad 'Ali Al-Imam.
It's much more serious than what you have said. Maybe many just do not know? *"He is a father to them,"* but it is *no longer* recited since it is *at variance* with the version of ‘Uthman. -(Muhammad Messenger of Allah (Ash-Shifa of Qadi 'Iyad), Qadi 'Iyad Musa al-Yahsubi, translated by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley [Madinah Press, Inverness, Scotland, U.K. 1991] - Surat 33:6 "The Prophet has a higher claim on the believers than [they have on] their own selves, [seeing that *he is as a father to them]* and his wives are their mothers…" -Muhammad Asad translation actually re-inserts this back into Quran. - "The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers..." "...In some Qiraats, like that of Ubai ibn Kab, occur also the word *"and he is a father to them..."* (A. Yusuf Ali, The Holy Quran, 1975, note 3674). Today the Qur'an has approximately 78,090 Arabic words Compared to 77,439 words in 10th century, that is at least 651 words different: "According to the statement of Ubayy ibn Ka'b the total number of the verses of the Qur'an is 6,210. The total of the surahs of the Qur'an according to the statement of 'Ata ibn Yasar is 114 its verses are 6,170, its words 77,439, and its letters 323,015. According to the statement of 'Asim al-Jahdari, there are 113 surahs. The total number of verses of the Qur'an as stated by Yahya ibn al-Harith al--Dhamari is 6,226, while its letters are 321,530." -The Fihrist (p.62) (tenth century) "Some of the parchment pages in the Yemeni hoard seemed to date back to the seventh and eighth centuries A.D.., some of these fragments revealed small but intriguing *aberrations* from the standard Koranic text. Such aberrations, though not surprising to textual historians, are troublingly at odds with the orthodox Muslim belief that the Koran as it has reached us today is quite simply the perfect, timeless, and unchanging Word of God." -Jan. 1999 Atlantic Monthly (p.43-56) 'Ubai bin Ka'b, one of Mohammed's secretaries, has extra suras, and omits about 12 suras in the Qur'an today. (The Fihrist p.61 footnotes 43-48) Abu Musa, of Basra, also had a text that was the same as 'Ubai's. (Suyuti, Itqan I, p. 65; Ibn Abi Dawud, Masahif, pp. 180-181, also Noeldeke, Geschichte des Quran's, pp. 33-38.)
in surah 85.22 quran says it's perfect tablet and surah .4.82 there's no contradiction in his book, also surah 6.34 and surah 6.115 allah won't allow to change his words but why there's different version of quran and different word like surah 98.6 in hafs version vs warsh version? in hafs says "creatures" and in warsh says "innocents" those.two words are totally different word and meaning. this is only few examples from many different words between hafs and warsh. why allah allowed satan for muhammad.to speak satanic verses in surah 22.52 and surah 53.19-20 and included it in quran while it was in heaven because quran claimed that this book is perfect tablet surah 85.22.
lol, Muslims used to mock the bible (as they had no choice given the clear different authors) but look at them now! I just have one question, what Quran on earth matches best the Quran in Allahs heaven?
@@OmarAlkhatib-c8z ok, let’s start again……….. Muslims by default are under compulsion to blasphemously state that the bible has been corrupted. All I’m asking is, what version of the Quran on earth is a dot for dot, letter for letter, word for word perfect reflection of the Quran that’s in Allahs brothel……I mean heaven?🤔 Do you understand me now?🤔
Originally the Arabic script, less than 100 years old during prophet alayhi salaam 's time, did not have vowels. Like Hebrew it was just consonants. It borrowed some from nabatean,
@@Muwahid999 It doesn’t matter what Farid says, Or any Islamic scholars, Immans, Shakes say brother.. Their explanations don’t work because the Quran doesn’t work.. Quran doesn’t have any answers, It isn’t from God but the Mind of Corrupted Man.. To try and find truth in a false ideology is the very definition of INSANITY.. As hard it is to believe the evidence is crystal clear.. Flee from the cemetery of Islam, Muhammad,Quran Come to your heavenly Father . Muslims In Humanity.. Break off the shackles of BAAL . May the Light of Messiah destroy the darkness of the Islamic spirit That has billions heading for destruction. In The Name of YAHUAH wa YAHUSHA HaMashiach Wa Ruach HaKodesh..
muhammad fiaz well according to Muslim sources I can claim that the Bible is preserved since the qu’ran affirms it’s authority, preservation and inspiration. Just ask Muhammad (i.e. read your sources)
@muhammad fiaz are you gonna compare the bible with Quran. Let's do it. The men and the book. Jesus and Mohamed. Who is pedophile; who married son wife, who was ordered to kill all mankind,. At least no goat ate the bible, no one says the bible was sent from heaven that is why we don't kill when bible is burned. Jesus word is forgiveness
No, there is just one Qur'an ayat for ayat. Only different Qira'at - methods of recitation, which goes down into the details of the pronunciation in speech and the letters within the script (e.g. diacritical marks, etc.).
@@noface5605 bruh is the truth you just hate Islam that you can’t take it is our Quran we tell you samething we know better then you people I know your Bible and torah was changed but you don’t need to be a hater
@@ilmco lol what?! Jesus literally calls people who pray like muslims hypocrites because your cult loves to stand in street corners when praying. The Lord Jesus says God doesn’t hear your prayers 😂- Matthew 6v5- “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.”
Yasir kaqhi was right because this wasn't a debate, but a conversation with the fellow Muslim, so he can't lie to him. But Hijab tried to make it as a debate cause u can't ask ur follow Muslim like that and u expecting him, to do what?? Be blessed Dr Yasir🤗
all received manuscripts have consonantical differences - 3.158 Topkapi لا الى ا للـه ىحسروں (lâ ilâ allah = not to Allah) - 3.158 Hafs 1924 لَإلى اللهِ تُحشَرون (la-ilâ allâh = surely to Alah) (one single deleted Alif makes that huge difference)
The matter of ahruf and qiraat is even more proof for qurans divine nature. There was no one mode of recitation but rather Allah made it easy for recitation for different tribes of that time
Lol, thanks so divine until we cant agree and dont know
@@israelisthechosenwdym we can’t know and agree?? We absolutely can and evidence of taut is the prophet sa himself stating there are 7 ahruf of the Quran and us being able to trace down the 10 quraa (transmitters) with authenticity.
Or there were over 40 different version of the book
@@user-og5fc5rt8g where did u get 40 from??
@@T.T.T416from Sam shamoun 😂😂😂
The 3 minute snippets, putting bits and pieces together, at the beginning do not do justice to the 30 minute conversation on the podcast.
Also YQ is right. Few if any of us can tell the difference between qiraat and ahruf, and how the manuscripts and oral tajweed worked and are transcribed. Most people were not literate throughout history, the Quran was preserved in memory and still is. The text imitates the recitation, not the other way around.
@Abou Hamzah explain me the difference between ahruf and Qiraat. Which ahruf still exist today?
Do you even study any qiraat besides the Hafs or do you just like to stay ignorant? If you don't know the difference, YQ was 100% right and Muslims need to know this because the haters of Islam are using a criticism that even Muslims fail to understand. Case in point all the haters and Christians spamming RUclips with their videos and comments.
@Abou Hamzah he clarified his comments because the Salafi haters are all jumping on him at the same time, for admitting ahruf and Qiraat are something most people don't even remotely understand, and this real ignorance is why Salafi and Christians are making a big scene, because they want people to remain ignorant and so that way they won't learn anything.
Tell me, how many qiraat do you study besides the Hafs? Since YQ was being vague and you know exactly what he's talking about.
@@irreview do you believe the major salafi scholars are not aware of a difference between ahruf and Qiraat? Stop blaming 'salafism' for everything you don't like about contemporary islam. The fact is Yasir Qadhi's statements were received by many muslim laypeople as threatening to their iman and at the very least confusing. It has nothing to do with the validity of his position, rather his choice of words and delivery.
@@Selektur poor choice of words and delivery. I agree. Stupid is the word , because the fat missionaries on RUclips are making mountains out of molehills here.
I’m confused how this is an answer to Yasir Qadhi...you can’t honestly believe Yasir Qadhi doesn’t already know of all this. A beginner student of Qirā’āt knows all of these points.
Yonis Ali He literally wrote about it in his book from decades ago, so you can’t really doubt it
the issue is about things like this:
"The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers..." "...In
some Qiraats, like that of Ubai ibn Kab, occur also the word *"and he is a father to them..."* (A. Yusuf
Ali, The Holy Quran, 1975, note 3674).
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*"He is a father to them,"* but it is *no longer* recited since it is *at variance* with the version of
‘Uthman. -(Muhammad Messenger of Allah (Ash-Shifa of Qadi 'Iyad), Qadi 'Iyad Musa al-Yahsubi, translated
by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley [Madinah Press, Inverness, Scotland, U.K. 1991]
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Surat 33:6 "The Prophet has a higher claim on the believers than [they have on] their own selves, [seeing
that *he is as a father to them]* and his wives are their mothers…"
-Muhammad Asad translation actually
re-inserts this back into Quran.
@@AlphaOmega888 arabic?
I concur that Tulaib - this is all basic level...
yasir supporters are not scholars!
Al-Jazari had a very good observation regarding the “ahruf”.
He said in his study of all of the shaz variant readings, he noticed that there were only 7 different “types of differences” in all of them, and no more. For instance “maaliki vs maliki” would be 1 type of difference, “siraat” vs “ziraat” would be one, “Izaa jaa a nasrulllahi wal fath” vs “izaa jaa a fathullahi wal nasr” would be another. Synonyms being used yet another (ihnil manfoosh vs soofin manfoosh in al-qariah is likely an example). Different dialect would be a 1 type of ahruf (alayhim vs alayhumu)
The reason why the diacritics were not developed for the uthmani text earlier was to actually accommodate variant readings for that particular consonental skeleton, but there were likely different consonental skeletons too.
What Muslims need to realize is that these differences are trivial, and do not contradict the idea that our rasool taught it in different ways. And that these differences complement and enhance the Quran by providing nuance, rather than contradict.
This is just more proof for Allah's kalam. The Quran was made easy to understand across different tribes.
@@DhikrDosefor arabs only?
@@israelisthechosenhow stupid are you. You expect the Arabs who receive the Qur'an should have received English, Spanish and Italian versions as well? The Quran is preserved through memorisation. You think the Arabs could memorise 6000+ English verses?
Maliki has 21 differences einstein.
@@Dorrzo lol what does that even mean? Do you understand what you said cuz no one else did.
Dear brothers Sheykh Qadhi refers to the doubt as a result of the difference between what he was told about the preservation and the later specifics about the actual preservation. Which most of us are all learning now with ahruf and qira’at al hamdulillah.
Let’s be honest with ourselves, I once thought: the Qur’an is preserved in 1 single version without any differences, after learning first about qira’at and ahruf, it is human nature to think: what is going on here?
So Qadhi doesn’t doubt the preservation. Doubt might occur after first hearing about the specifics, yet later, the doubt disappeared.
Sheikh Qadhi was a little too open about his doubts for a teacher I humbly think. He shouldn’t, but I think he tries to explain the process which all students of knowlegde might go trough as he did.
We are all humans dear brothers. We all go through processes, also sheikhs and teachers.
Having doubts is 100% human nature. Abu bakr as siddiq ra was called as siddiq for a reason, because he stood above the masses, even amongst the sahaba.
I agree with you bro. He did not quote the Hadith in context but his overall point was correct. We should learn more qiraat, personally and in an academic way. We neglect them. besides quoting half the Hadeeth, he was not trying to say anything but that. Qiraat is a deep and complicated matter which is not studied enough. I study the Warsh every day so I can sympathize. But to most people, he said the dumbest thing possible.
@Yonis Ali yeah that was dumb of him. He has to eat his shoe now. But look I thank Allah because now I understand the qiraat and ahruf much better now, I studied this topic until it made sense to me, and the non Muslims have wasted alot of time "disproving" the Quran by showing a single alif out of place. So they have spent less time attacking Aisha and things , and instead argue with Muslims about something which they know nothing about and which in fact proves our religion. So inshallah we will be stronger as a community, but people are spending loads of time attacking YQ, and Christians in exaggerating the meaning of what he said.
God has used this to expose the foolish Christians , and also to remind Muslims to be learned about the impeccable transmission of the Quran. They plot and they plan, but God is the best of planners.
@@irreview We are doing the same thing muslims do when they quote Bart Erhman, Its only fair to point out someone at the highest level of academia is having serious doubts about the preservation of the Quran to the point where he is afraid to even mention the issues on camera for fear of weakening the Iman of muslims, in essence he is saying Ignorance is bliss.
@@WhosthatHotspice He says a companion had doubt about this matter. Because he was not aware of other recitations. -- Ehrman openly says Matthew Mark Luke and John were not written by their respective authors. You cannot even compare the shakiness of the implications being discussed. One is a doubt about the Islamic traditional narrative. The other is a clear rejection of the Christian traditional narrative. Keep dreaming that your Bible was preserved as well as our holy book. But if you want to admit both were preserved with nearly perfect ways, with minor differences that should not trouble the faith of a believer today, I will agree with you on that.
But you can't say YQ denounced the Muslim narrative the way Ehrman rejects your openly. You can say both texts went through a period of codification and compilation.
To be fair the only reason Yasir Qadhi talked about these doubts publicly was because some other brothers leaked his private emails to try and expose him, he had no intention himself of making the issue public but now he had to deal with it publicly.
Very interesting discussion. The subjects of the Ahruf/qiraat have been widely discussed since the earliest days of Islam. It is true that most common Muslims are not educated regarding these topics. All the discussions of Muslim Scholars on this subject have all arrived at the same conclusion. That the Quran we have today is indeed the exact preserved speech of God. They have different opinions regarding the nature or definition of what exactly constitutes the term Ahruf however their conclusions are all the same. The Quran was preserved as is verifiable through the written texts that have been carbon dated to the times that Islam was revealed and also through the Oral preservation in an unbroken chain from millions of Hufaz(those that know the text by heart). It is true that many Muslims need to educate themselves more regarding these and many other Islamic topics.
Of course, most folks may not know Arabic, but just read the translation in English, and you'll know it's the same across all forms of recitation. This exemplifies the beauty of the Quran and the Arabic language in which it was revealed.
Ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “You will never tell a people anything that they do not understand but it will be a cause of confusion for some of them.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari.
Good point. Most people don't understand ahruf and Qiraat and that is why they are making mountains out of molehills over YQ.
I have made a video using a simple analogy in English to help explain Ahruf and Qiraat.
Please like, share etc so this fitnah and unnecessary confusion can be removed.
ruclips.net/video/CGi6w_-uREw/видео.html
Hadith number bro?
What did he not understand?
Hadees referense please
Anas narrated: The Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) would often say: Ya Muqallibal-qulub, thabbit qalbi 'ala dinik('O Changer of the Hearts! Strengthen my heart upon Your Religion.)' So I said: 'O Prophet of Allah! We believe in you and what you have come with, but do you fear for us?' He said: 'Yes. Indeed the hearts are between two Fingers of Allah's Fingers, He changes them as He wills.'
Trimidi 2140
Spreading arab religion to non arab in a " PEACEFUL WAY"
Sahih al-Bukhari 3167
Narrated Abu Huraira:
While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet (ﷺ) came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3167In-book reference : Book 58, Hadith 9 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 53, Hadith 392
The illiterate arab messenger is an extortionist 😮
The Quran is a historical treasure
lol
Which Quran?
History is not the farthest word that can be described for quran lol
Which one 😂
@@jackpaul3315 🤣🤣🤣 All 7 reading 10 and 37 Quran’s They all are one. You see Quran Confirms the One means Multiple.
The Trinitarian formula for the Oneness of God : Father + Son Holy + Spirit 3= One God= ECHAD
The Multiple Quran Formula for the oneness of Quran: 37 + 10 + 7 = One Quran = ECHAD
Tawhid has been mistakenly used. We have corrected it. 🤣
USA: tuh·may·tow
UK: tuh·maa·tow
Disbelievers: LEMON
JzakAllah khayran for that insightful video.
To me, the closest example would be of a book I.e. Harry Potter, read in British English and American English; both books are considered standard English but they are different. Also, if Americans spell colour as "color", that hasn't changed the meaning of the word.
These so-called critics are doing gymnastics with the head.
You are seemed confused between translation (or evolving in language) versus the original language (original words). Muslims told that Quran is preserved, including dots, comma, etc. But the variations on 37 qurans tells the opposite, they have different in meaning, words, comma, dots, etc. The conclusion, there is noone could exactly certain quran (from those 37 variants) that muhammad recited before.
@@Aris-lb9zv
Not really. The criticisms are mere exaggeration. For example, how is the difference between maalik and malik? The root is the same. Another example is in hafs an Aasim qiraat in Quran 2:10, the last word in the ayah can be read yakdhiboun, but in Warsh an Nafi yukadhiboun. Once again, different pronunciation but the root of the words are identical.
And yes, we are 100% sure the Prophet Muhammad pbuh transmitted these, as Sheikh Asrar has thoroughly argued.
@@Amadeus-ms9lt what was the recitation from muhammad to his followers, malik or maalik???... Im sure you can't answer this question... So simple...
@@Aris-lb9zv
Both.
@@Amadeus-ms9lt Than, tell me the proof (manuscripts, documents, etc) WHEN and HOW muhammad recited both words in one verse?? to different people???..
Only a lie needs lies upon lies to explain it. Truth is easy to comprehend. This is only getting started for the dismantling of centuries of lies upon lies. The more they try to explain lies with lies, the more confusion they create.
The Qur'an is over 1400 years old brought forth by a desert dwelling people in a largely historically insignificant place. Yet this book predicts that it will be preserved, when no one outside of a few hundred people cared or believed what it said at that time and place. And now we have a standardized version of this book, widely accessible and memorized and read all around the world . Regardless of any real or imagined "holes" in the narrative, the Qur'an is here and the prediction has come true. No one disputes that the Qur'an claims to be preserved and this claim was always a part of the Qur'an. The Qur'an even made this claim that it will be preserved before it was even completed during the life of the Prophet Muhammad. Who would even dare make such a bold claim? Yet here we are debating whether this claim was true or not when the Qur'an should not have stood the test of time in any other circumstance. Yet, the Qur'an being debated is the one Qur'an. Whatever variation in font, diacritical marks or recitation styles do not change anything in the meaning or message or theology of the Qur'an. The Qur'an is one. The Star Spangled Banner is sung and recited and interpreted and re-worded a million different ways yet it has a standard version, and a long version that few know, despite millions memorizing it, and it is a song only a few stanzas long that was written in the era of the printing press. The Qur'an is over 6660 verses long and it is here as one written and memorized text revealed in an era of poems and oral traditions. Despite this, there are no longer or shorter or hidden or alternate lesser known versions of it. Yes, it's certainly true that a game of telephone will produce dozens of variations to one sentence along one chain of a dozen people. Multiply those variations exponentially when spread over hundreds of chains involving thousands of people passing along thousands of phrases and verses. Simple math would dictate millions of possible variations with gross disparity among them. Yet here we are, with one Quran. If that isn't a miraculous example of preservation, then I don't really know what is. The existence of narrations that point to possible holes is actually proof that a) The Muslims are honest and didn't cover up controversies and b) that the preservation could have gone wrong but it never did. I'm surprised there aren't more narrations, and that itself is a miracle. So is the the fact that there aren't hundreds of variants of a book that was largely orally transmitted over the course of 1400 years! This is unprecedented in human history. It defies all probability that Muslims today have one uniform Qur'an in all corners of the globe when the Muslims never had a central authority after the Rashidun Khalifate and were ruled by dozens of different dynasties, with their own centers of knowledge and scholarly and academic and clerical institutions. So yes, it is hard to believe that it is possible, but here is the Qur'an, just like it predicted about itself to a bunch of desert dwelling Arabs who had no idea how they would overcome the pagan Meccan leadership and survive, let alone fathom how we would still be reading that same book, hundreds of years later.
Brother in need is a brother indeed nicely clarified and more elaborated on the point
Too little too late
The knowledge is leaps and bound brother.. The East don’t know brother.. The meaning no one knows.. The evolution of the Quran.. bless you brother for being truthful
He clearly twisted Ubay Bin Kabs hadith.
The fact that Ubay (ra) concluded by have 0% doubt refutes YQ.
Not only that, the meaning of that hadith was pointing to the 'tajweed' of Ubay bin kab, the prophet peace be upon him said "if you want to hear how the Qur'an was sent down listen to Ubay bin kab" meaning his tajweed or recitation sounds the most accurate.
@@user-fi9dk3gt6d there were 7 ahruf , all equally valid. And the argument is, he later in life became forgetful. It is commendable our history even records such details.
@Yonis Ali yeah so I saw bro Hajji rebuttal. He did misconstrue the timing of that Hadeeth. It was during the life of the Prophet, not during Uthman when he allegedly had those doubts. It was red meat to the haters , those fat Christians on RUclips are already all over it.
That's why brother Hijab corrected him right away. He saw the storm coming.
I liked the point he made though. Ordinary Muslims ought to know the difference between ahruf and Qiraat. Dumb way of making it though, borrowing the word of Sahaba to make your academic point. No wonder the Salafis call him a fake scholar. Too much Yale. He's not a fake scholar though. Just put his foot in his mouth and refused to take it out.
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Ahruf - A letter is added into recitation
Qira'aat - Transmission of Quran from companions.
6:30 Differences in Qira'at are due to the Ahruf
13:13 Qiraat
13:18 Ahruf - different dialects
Qiraat is recitation. Ahruf is letters. The fact that there is a difference means you don't get that the text was a recited memory first. Then written down. YQ was just pointed this out. Nothing to be mad about bro.
Shaykh Asrar says here: "any differing that is found is due to the ahruf. But we will not say the ahruf and Qiraat are the same thing. You can say that differences in the qiraat are due to the ahruf. But that is something else..." Shaykh Asrar then proceeds to refute the Christians attacking the Quran. But whoever made this video failed to see YQ was making the same point as shaykh Asrar is here!
Yeah the last minute of the lecture makes no sense. The Qur'aa are different than the ahruf. Ahruf is due to dialect, but if the qari learned it from rasulallah himself, and the qari were all in agreement then how did the reciters get differences through the text, if they probably never learned from the mushaf anyway?
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@@mitchpeter5718 if you wanna see how anti islamic apologists arguments are debunked see the channel *Farid responds*
As a ✝️, Textual variants are Not a problem because we believe The Multiple Variants in the Bible do Not negate infallibility. We don’t believe The Scripture are inerrant/flawless Simply BECAUSE Man is Not flawless. But The Message is preserved.
So sad! This Yasir Qadi, ☪️SCHOLAR-Approved “Holes in the Narrative” & Ahruf/Qiraat issues WOULDNT exist, if…
IF you Sheikhs hadn’t told ANYONE & EVERYBODY that there’s “Only 1 Koran”.
You have so many Apostates BECAUSE you Muslims “shoot yourselves in the foot” because you make absolute claims on The Koran that YOU, YOURSELVES have put on The Umma!!! What a shame.
Mo Hijab to Yasir Qadhi: "If you were given a blank page and were asked to write down the recitation exactly as it was revealed to the Prophet, which Qiraat would be the correct one?" to which he backed down and refused to comment. The claim of letter-by-letter preservation is highly questionable. At best, the message/meaning may have been preserved but there are grey areas even here.
@Yonis Ali Did he lose credibility before or after the interview, did he lose his scholarly title simply for being frank about these issues? Are you sure he did not finish his studies? Look again before you discredit the man.
Of all the apologists I have come accross, he is more upfront and honest than most, if not all...
@Yonis Ali He defended Aisha's age when everyone else was lying about it for example (fact that she was 9 when she moved in with the Prophet). He quite admirably said people must accept it and move on, it is what it is.
Oh and btw, he has a *PhD in Islamic Studies* and also served as Deen at AlMaghrib Institute... that is right up there in terms of scholarly credentials...
@Yonis Ali Your replies are being cut off and I see only an elipse, please paste just the link.
And who are you referring to when you say "non-Muslim trying to teach you Islam"?
Yasir qhadi has become a get way for none Muslims to attack Islam.It's not about talking too long without a proper explanation. If it is not your field why do you criticize it when you know you don't have much knowledge about it.
It his field and he teaches it. Take his course and you will know how many Holes they are.
Even if it's not his specialty, he can still ask questions and talk about those in any way or forum he wants to. Telling someone to be silent because it's not his specialty is not the way to go. The way to go is to give reply and correct the assumptions and knowledge he has, or lack of it.
And from what I heard from muslims, He is one of the most respected scholar, so he must know better than you and I, at least.
May Allah guide yasir qadhi!!!!!
At 6:22, Shaykh Asrar says here: "any differing that is found is due to the ahruf. But we will not say the ahruf and Qiraat are the same thing. You can say that differences in the qiraat are due to the ahruf. But that is something else..." Shaykh Asrar then proceeds to refute the Christians attacking the Quran, for different diacritics or orthography. But whoever made this video failed to see YQ was making the same point as shaykh Asrar is here!
I like shk Yasir and Shk Asar thanx for this enlightment but I think what Yasir was talking about was bigger than just that
The style of writing is the same or it’s different but the meaning is the same. Mate, this makes no sense whatsoever. Why don’t you just come up with the honest truth. There are and were many different versions of the Quran and that is simply unacceptable given the Islamic principle of the uniqueness unchanged And directly dictated by God nature of this book guys I think you are in trouble now with the Internet everyone is starting to see through your game
Subhanallah zazak Allah hu khaiira subhaallah ya Shykh
But the Quran was perfectly preserved... But vowels and letters were added and it is still perfectly preserved. I am confused.
Really, before Muslims use to say not a dot was added what's going on now
@@basilhendricks788 , thats because you dont understand basic things.
All the variants of the qiraat were sanctioned and authenticated by the prophet himself.
So, not a letter differs from the quran that was revealed to the prophet.
Whats hard to understand ?
@@abdulmuhithsyed1787 That's a big fat lie my friend. The quran we have today is different from the quran the fake prophet recited
@IDRECE GHADIE This is not correct as the Consents have also been changed in some cases your comment only makes sense in the modern world long after vowelization was introduced.
@@abdulaimukaje5503 , not true. Thats because your knowledge in ulum al quran ie weak, that you keep spouting what other bigots before you said without even checking for evidence.
The below statement is potentially wrong. I may have gotten some parts wrong. Thought I'll let you know. I'm not a scholar
"the Final Prophet recited the Noble Quran in many variants for the different tribes but all had the same meaning. For example in urban english in London the word 'sick' or 'bad' is describing something as good. I myself say 'that is a bad car' which means that is a good car. But the words in the variants weren't opposites like the exmaple I've given. It's simple."
Quran mentioned that there are decisive and allegorical verses. So, people are arguing things that they dont know for sure, and then resorted to Hadiths to substantiate etc claims (a great number hadith had been rejected, the so called non-authentic hadiths, speaks volume of its unreliability).
Quran 3v7 ..... But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except God. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and *none will grasp the Message except men of understanding*
Alhamdulillah I'm Muslim ❤️😇
You're delusional.
@@silverknight1740 You are deceived
So what if there is different Ahraf and Qirats!
The meaning is always the same and will remain the same?
doesn't matter, it's confusion
A question. Which Ahruf and Qira'at is the Quran that will speak on the day of Judgment?
May Allah bless and strengthen you shaykh asrar. Wallahi we need more scholars coming out addressing this, orientalists have always used semantics to cause doubt.
He didn't even answer YQ
Yasir is right, there more holes in Quran than Sweden cheese 😂😂
The Quran is sound. How do you represent sound on paper?
pkasb90 :
All languages, and music, are sounds;
and they both can be quite accurately communicated on paper.
Dr yasir Qadi was right. You can see for yourself that this hadith confused the greatest ulama of Islam. That's the reason for 40 opinions on this hadith.
Shaykh Asrar thank you
Sheikh Yasir Qadhi problem started when he rub shoulders with Orientalists (conveniently called as Western academia).
Do you understand the connection between ahruf and qiraat? How many people do you know do?
You've got the point. He faced reality. The questions that Mohamedans didn't ask, were asked then the scheme was exposed
What about umran
Lol, Dr. Yasir Qadhi is being refuted by everybody now, left right and centre. From Salafis, to Deobandis, to Barelwis, to Atharis, to Asharis...all kind of united, in their own independent way, if that makes sense haha
After listening to Asrar i now understand what Yasir Qadhi is saying
Jazak allah..✨
Dr yasir qadhi didnt wat to answer it because the bulk of the people dont understand it thats why he didnt. This is a discussion between scolars/people who have knowledge about it.........
I only sent this message as I see in the comments many people are saying the snippets do not explain in detail about the situation Yasir is perhaps referring to
Different Qiraat, who wonders in 37:12?
37:12 Hafs Quran:
But you wonder, while they mock,
Muhammad wonders
37:12 Al-Doori Quran
But I wonder, while they mock,
Allah wonders
37:12 Abu Al-Harith Quran
But I wonder, while they mock,
Allah wonders
37:12 Khalaf Quran
But I wonder, while they mock,
Allah wonders
Both as you can see. That Allah swt Himself wonders is a expression which we also see in the Hadith literature.
@@samkb6374 So which Quran was then published by so called Uthman? He made one and sent copies to 5 cities.
Is this an answer to Yasir Qadhi. Clearly does not look like it is.
Seems like a really complex way for Allah to preserve and protect his book. Looks more like the work of humans trying to preserve a book they THINK is divine. How is a non Muslim meant to determine what really happened if even scholars can't agree. There are 40+ scholarly opinions on what 'ahruf' means! Great.
Of course, you may not know Arabic, but just read the translation in English, and you'll know it's the same across all forms of recitation. This exemplifies the beauty of the Quran and the Arabic language in which it was revealed.
The variant scripts are actually tribes attempting to decode the Quran sound into writings. The tribes use their own scripts.
Jaza kaAllahu khair
Truth has come to the people. Will they accept the harsh truth and denounce Islam or will they cling to their cherished lies and hold on to Islam.
Being ignorant is ok with God, to this He winks but to Deny truth without a proper investigation is something we all have to fear!
I agree with Dr Yasir, the Quran standard narratives have holes more than Swede cheese😂😂😂 but he scare to say.
Salam alaikom sheikh,
I am Qu'ran and Qur'anic science schollar, please, would be to able to remove this video from yourtube coz doesnt not explain on correct what 7 ahruf are, it is confusing so , better to revome it than have it here .
Salam...
EDITED: Actually, the meanings does change among qira’at’s. For instance, Sura 5:6, speaking of ablution, if it is read in one particular version, there is *no need to wash the feet, rather, just to wipe them* . On another version, *you do have to wash the feet* .
EDITED: Another example would be in one version, ablution is done when there has been *sexual intercourse* . On another version, ablution is done if they have *kissed and touched each other* .
So which one is the correct directive?
Which ones are you referencing?
there’s no contradiction even then lol
Yasser is worried about the western academics who are ignorant about Quran and the Arabic language...and yasser limited faith and knowledge plus the affect of orientalists lead him to doubt alot of issues around Islam ...We pray to Allah to guide him to the right path
Where is the complete video?
Sheikh Yasir Qadhi He has a seminar tackling these in September
I would stay away from YQ courses, considering the types of stuff he says. He uses a lot of orientalist, western books on Islam to teach.
@zx82 The only reason YQ is so afraid to explain what these problems are is because he can't defend his points yet. Inshallah the other scholars will refute anything these orientialists / western scholars come up with to attack the Qu'ran. YQ must be really arrogant to think that he has discovered something that 1400 years of scholars were blind to.
Go watch Adnan rashid's video or karim Abdulzaid's video about this topic
watch the whole video not jus 3 minutes snippet of the video which you can watch in yassir qadhi's.channel. he said even the most advance scholar can't answer the questions by the western scholar. the question is what was the eternal book in heaven given to muhammad? warsh, hafs, al doori or rawh version? for example in surah 98.6, in hafs "creatures" and in warsh said "innocents", which is right? if there's changes in words, it means quran failed surah 6.34, surah 6.115 and surah 85.22 that allah won't allow to change the word. surah 1.4, surah 3.146 are not the same word between hafs and warsh. how about differences betweem hafs and surah 46.15 between hafs and al-doori. there are 1000+ difference between hafs and warsh. if the word change like in surah 98.6 between hafs and warsh, it has different meaning and it emans different context.
How can "innocents" in surah 98.6 make any sense? "Creatures" makes perfect sense in the verse
@Uthman ThaLayman it means you don't have idea what is in hafs vs warsh or al-doori. check warsh vs hafs quran for surah 98.6 and many more. check this site the difference between warsh and and hafs
www.ugr.es/~mreligio/bibliografia/Green.Samuel_The-different-arabic-versions-of-the-Quran.pdf
also why uthman burnt other 6 version of quran and retain one if all this recitations come from allah and spoke by muhammad? which version that was eternally kept by your allah in heaven?
abdullah masud is one of the best to learn recitation in sahih bukhari below :
sunnah.com/bukhari/62/106
Narrated Masruq:
"Abdullah (bin Mas`ud) was mentioned before` Abdullah bin `Amr. The latter said, "That is a man I continue to love because I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying, 'Learn the recitation of the Qur'an from (any of these) four persons:` Abdullah bin Masud, Salim the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa, Ubai bin Ka`b, and Mu`adh bin Jabal. " I do not remember whether he mentioned Ubai first or Mu`adh.
why abdulah masud told to muslims to conceal the musahif they had if the quran whichn utman had was the right recitiation in sahih bukhari sunnah.com/urn/641130
Az-Zuhri said: '' Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah bin' Utbah informed me that 'Abdullah bin Mas'ud disliked Zaid bin Thabit copying the Musahif, and he said:' O you Muslim people! I am removed from recording the transcription of the Mushaf and it is overseen by a man, by Allah, when I accepted Islam he was but in the loins of a disbelieving man '- meaning Zaid bin Thabit - and it was regarding this' Abdullah bin Mas'ud said: 'O people of Al-'Iraq! Keep the Musahif that are with you, and conceal them.
why not speak to sheik yassir qadhi who is dean of academic international islamic study that who started this and said even the most advanced islamic scholar can't answer different ahruf and qiraat? are you islamic scholar?
even only one different word between hafs vs warsh vs rawh vs al-doori exist, quran preservation is invalid and quran is not from GOD but from false god allah and false prophet muhammad because the book contradicted itselft because surah 6.34, surah 6.115 and surah 15.9 were failed.
are you scholar like dr yassir qadhi?
quran claimed that its perfect tablet surah 85.22 comes from heaven and there's no contradiction in quran surah 4.82, but how come allah allowed SHAYTAN for muhamnad to speak SATANIC VERSES surah 53.19-20 and surah 22.52, 18.1, 41.42 while quran was in heaven before given to muhammad? see link below for tafsir surah 22.52 www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=86&tSoraNo=22&tAyahNo=52&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2
another contradiction in quran,, quran claimed that SHAYTAN has no authority to slave of allah surah 15.42 but how come allah allowed SHAYTAN to control muhammad and bewitched? see link below as an example from sahih bukhari
// Bewitched and magic worked on prophet
sunnah.com/bukhari/58/17
Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet (ﷺ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.
sunnah.com/bukhari/76/79
Narrated Aisha:
Magic was worked on Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not (Sufyan said: That is the hardest kind of magic as it has such an effect).
sunnah.com/bukhari/80/86
Narrated `Aisha:
that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was affected by magic, so much that he used to think that he had done something which in fact, he did not do, and he invoked his Lord (for a remedy).
//which allah created first heaven or earth?
it seems allah is not all knowing at all because he forgot which he created first earth or heavens
it looks like allah forgot which he created first earth or heaven? in quran surah 41.9-12 earth is created first in 2 days before the heaven and in surah 79.27-33 allah created heaven first before earth? what kind of allah that cannot remember what he created first that surahs contradicted each other?
@@stargategoku on you so called "contradiction" about the creation of heaven and the earth,
41:9-12 clearly states that the Earth was created first and the Heaven thereafter.
79:27-33 clearly states that Earth was 'spreaded' after Heavens were created.
How can one confuse spreading and creating for meaning the same thing is beyond me and I wouldn't even waste my time in trying to justify anything.
More Proof: Re-read the verses. 41:10 states that Mountains were placed on earth and provisions were determined and blessed for its creatures. 79:31-33 states that He extracted from its (Earth's) waters, pasters and mountains provisions. Note how Mountains were already there at the time of extraction.
I fail to see anything contradicting.. infact the reading a few extra verses validates that it all makes perfect sense.
As for the other questions/claims, I'm not knowledgeable enough to answer.
@@stargategoku INTP?
Abou Hamzah so, you gonna ignore the facts?
A mistake from my part. In Islam we need to define the words we are using because Allaah is not like the Creation. Sometimes the Christians want us Muslims to explain Islam in the style they have chosen to explain Christianity. We shouldn’t fall for this.
Quran is reveled in the original arabic so to understand it you need to go through language concept it self
Language: is the principal method of human communication, consisting of words used in a structured and conventional way and conveyed by speech, writing, or gesture.
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The majority of arabs in that time were illiterate "few people read/write" yet they spoke fluent & were poets
When they wrote long poems it was non diacritical
Why?
Since all tribes of arabs were fluent whether illiterate or not & would mostly transverse poetry verbally or would read a non diacritical text easily & understand it fully without error the need of diacritical system didn't exist
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#Arabic Diacritical System#
It existed among the arab since 634 or 22 hijri
But wasn't obligatory for the reasons i meationed before
The diacritical marking was developed since then for Ajam "non arabs" due to the expansion of muslims & librations of cities that started in Omar bin Al khatab 2nd caliph time. So these non arabs that accepted Islam they were unable to read the Quran properly & correctly.
The system devoloped in its current form the time of Ali bin Abi Talib 4th caliph until the umayyad caliphate Abulmalik bin marwan & in his time the first diacritical Quran was written
What is diacritical in the arabic texture
1. Its the addition of a dot on certain vowels
2. Damah (ُ ) fatha (َ ) kasrah ( ِ )
3. If two together Tanween (ٌ ً ٍ. )
Again these addition were for non arabs to be able to pronounce properly
Summery: with or without the diacritical system the pronouncation & speech is the same & most if not all native arabs can read non diacritical text today with varying degrees
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Quran revelation:
God reveled the Quran in stages & in different modes of recitation or qira'at to the prophets muhammed peace be upon him through the angel Gabriel verbally it wasn't a text or a book that was given to him
Then the prophet peace be upon him verbally transmitted it to well known companions & they memorized it & he called them to write it down on different materials & then read back to him & it was written in the different recitations that was reveled & we know today
This is an example of a scribe of non diacritical quranic text converted into a diacritical text
almudarabah.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Birmingham-Quran-Episode-1-Scan-4.jpg
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Authoritive evidence:
sunnah.com/mishkat/8/104
sunnah.com/bukhari/59/30
sunnah.com/urn/46690
d1.islamhouse.com/data/ar/ih_poster/single_01/ar_Asaned_alquran.jp
Taken from book سلسلة اسانيد القران
The Quran chain of naration (Isnad)
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Qira'at
Well explained here
ruclips.net/video/8hj7u0F3yEg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/AnI5gvYYaBU/видео.html
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Conclusion:
Since the Quran that Allah revealed to the prophets mohammed peace be upon him has been verbally transmitted, memorized & written in the different modes Ahruf & recitations Qira'at with variations in text & pronunciation that expand meaning & adds to the eloquency & beauty of the Quran through the versatile arabic language without any contradictions shape or form & has been transmitted to us through authentic continous chains of narrators in every recitation unchanged & completely preserved.
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Why the Torah "old testament" & Injeel "gospel or Bible" have been proven to have been unpreserved?
1.The consensus is that 2 verses in John 5:7 & timothy 3:16 is a fabrication by Christian scholars
2. The original language of these text are not spoken anymore & different than the translation
3. There have been many accounts of contradictions 0kp
C. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
These are clear contradictions of facts & prove some of it are due to human errors since it wasn't written in the time of the moses jesus or their decibels & was subject to change since no one memorized it completely
There are way more examples
www.answering-christianity.com/101_bible_contradictions.htm
4. Since no memorization occured in the generations of these text or original book the possibility of a change in the text to go unnoticed is very high
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Highly recommend book to read if you are looking for the truth in depth
The History of the Qur'ānic Text: From Revelation to Compilation : a Comparative Study with the Old and New Testaments
Book by Muhammad Mustafa Azmi
The Entire Quran is from Allah the most high to his messenger Muhammad ibn Abdullah s.a.w
Which are the 7 different ahruf? You don't know
More then 30 different Arabic qurans, more then 100.000 textual variance. Interesting times ahead.
Ahruf is NOT 7 letters!
Ahruf is different types of recitation
Very useful Shaykh. Can u do a lecture on the sanaa manuscripts please?
Its illogical not to record the original content and just go by memory. This is costing huge problems today.
The pride of easy memorization has caused the fall.
From the start the focus should have been content and not memorization.
From the beginning the Qur’an was written down AND memorized. The prophet pbuh had at least 40 scribes who wrote down the Qur’an a side if memorization. The same material is used to compile the codex of Abu Bakr RA which on it’s turn was used for the Uthmanic codex. A side of that the companions memorized the Qur’an from cover to cover and had students.
So your claim is false about the “fall” because of the focus on memorization and not also the written form.
Does the different Qiraat change meaning?
@@david-krassnig Hmm interesting
Thanks
MashaAllah
#ahlesunnatahleimaan
what happened to yasiir Qadi suddenly?
He found brain
@@slugakristov8343 No, he is suddenly having one of his 'Holocaust denial' moments as he did before. This guy's judgement was already wracked from the beginning. Now he is suddenly fussing about something that has been studied extensively inside out for centuries. His head is loose and lost his brain.
@@ah4356 actually you are wrong....this time he is right.and of course I understand your bias...
I abandoned my bio of course he is right ‘this time’ because your bias is absolutely non-existent, right?Please kindly $hut up.
@@ah4356 well atheists don't have bias in this matter so chill bro...bye
جزاك الله خير sheikh asrar for defending the quran.
For further information watch mohammed hijabs podcast with ustadh Abdulrahman.
Please don't see this as a point to spark Controversy between the Muslim sects. We are all together in support of the quran's preservation.
I am confused i was about to convert to islam, now i have doubt. Does this mean allah has not preserved the Quran too?
@@BO0O0M650 but but brother i listen to the imams and sheikhs.
@@BO0O0M650 don't worry. Take it easy.
Stay away from Islam bro. A religion that hides things from you is not a good one. Christianity has undergone all kinds of scrutiny. We have nothing to hide. What you see is what you get. Jesus Christ told us to love everyone, even those who hate and persecute us.
@@servantofjesus9642 check my comment on one of uour videos where you are singing with a girl
@@BO0O0M650 When Jesus said he is the way, the truth and the light, it's true: he is saying that my message of following God is the true and righteous path to God. And you should follow his actions and believe in his message that God bought down through Jesus. This passage says absolutely nothing about Jesus as being God or a deity. He is just saying follow my message as it will lead you to God. How is this even remotely saying that I am god, worship me??? The Council of Niceae, the Roman emperor Constantine and Paul is to blame for this horrendous lie of Jesus divinity. Constantine wanted to appease his pagan worshiping citizens so he and the council came up with the more pagan multi-theist version of Jesus for appeasement and for the sake of politics. By declaring Jesus to be divine they have gone against the very message of what Jesus himself preached, the oneness of God Their actions have caused billions to go astray and only if you knew what their tortured dead souls are going through right now.
Wallahi Qur'an was revealed in only one Harf. Those who say it was revealed in more than one Harf are liars and fabricators. There is no one in this world who can explain the fabricated hadees of 7 ahrufs.
Shias only believe in one Harf that's mutawatir.
Shaykh please help me!!!!
I want know about shaykh nazim al Haqqani..
He is misguided because he says that he can look the awrah of the women and so many womens kissed his hand how is it possible
Our habib pbuh doesn't do
Please study their tariqa and guide us
May reward for your da'wa
allahAmeen ya rabbal alameen
why waste time arguing when u urself are with low knowledge. stop wasting time in looking in debates and go actually learn
Individuals from outside the tribe will most likely read the Quran wrongly if they are unfamiliar with such script.
This just shows that the Quran is not preserved and there are actual holes in the narrative.
This answer is quite confusing. We want to know where is the Quran which is written in 6th or 7th century. Western world is looking for the answer or proof from that century. And you are giving them answers from late 9th or 10th century. Yasir Qadi is right that western world knowledge on Islam is far beyond Eastern world.
The question you should be asking as a Muslim is: why are your scholars lying and hiding things from you? Do your own research my friend and the truth will come out, that's all I'm gonna say
So letters were added... variants haunts ryt?
No...
@@kingtan3676 what were you listening to?
Come back to Qur'an alone - the hafs. Leave all hadith outside. The hafs - read by 90%+ muslim population is the revelation. Hadith confuse everyone with this talk of qira'at and ahruf.
Allah revealed, and this is every muslims axiomatic belief, the Qur'an and He has preserved it (90%+). Humans were always going to alter it, but we know that in hafs it is preserved.
Leave hadith - its Qur'an ONLY, not Qur'an +
Peace
Yasir Qadhi has diseases in his heart which are coming out slowly like making dua to a dead person is not shriek, the existence of Yajuj & Majuj is hard to swallow. A good book to raed about seven ahruf and 10 qira'at is "Variant Readings of the Qur'an" by Ahmad 'Ali Al-Imam.
This is not even an answer. Lol. Try harder.
It's much more serious than what you have said. Maybe many just do not know?
*"He is a father to them,"* but it is *no longer* recited since it is *at variance* with the version of
‘Uthman. -(Muhammad Messenger of Allah (Ash-Shifa of Qadi 'Iyad), Qadi 'Iyad Musa al-Yahsubi, translated
by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley [Madinah Press, Inverness, Scotland, U.K. 1991]
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Surat 33:6 "The Prophet has a higher claim on the believers than [they have on] their own selves, [seeing
that *he is as a father to them]* and his wives are their mothers…"
-Muhammad Asad translation actually
re-inserts this back into Quran.
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"The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers..." "...In
some Qiraats, like that of Ubai ibn Kab, occur also the word *"and he is a father to them..."* (A. Yusuf
Ali, The Holy Quran, 1975, note 3674).
Today the Qur'an has approximately 78,090 Arabic words Compared to 77,439 words in 10th century, that is
at least 651 words different: "According to the statement of Ubayy ibn Ka'b the total number of the
verses of the Qur'an is 6,210. The total of the surahs of the Qur'an according to the statement of 'Ata
ibn Yasar is 114 its verses are 6,170, its words 77,439, and its letters 323,015. According to the
statement of 'Asim al-Jahdari, there are 113 surahs. The total number of verses of the Qur'an as stated
by Yahya ibn al-Harith al--Dhamari is 6,226, while its letters are 321,530." -The Fihrist (p.62) (tenth
century)
"Some of the parchment pages in the Yemeni hoard seemed to date back to the seventh and eighth centuries
A.D.., some of these fragments revealed small but intriguing *aberrations* from the standard Koranic
text. Such aberrations, though not surprising to textual historians, are troublingly at odds with the
orthodox Muslim belief that the Koran as it has reached us today is quite simply the perfect, timeless,
and unchanging Word of God." -Jan. 1999 Atlantic Monthly (p.43-56)
'Ubai bin Ka'b, one of Mohammed's secretaries, has extra suras, and omits about 12 suras in the Qur'an
today. (The Fihrist p.61 footnotes 43-48) Abu Musa, of Basra, also had a text that was the same as
'Ubai's. (Suyuti, Itqan I, p. 65; Ibn Abi Dawud, Masahif, pp. 180-181, also Noeldeke, Geschichte des
Quran's, pp. 33-38.)
in surah 85.22 quran says it's perfect tablet and surah .4.82 there's no contradiction in his book, also surah 6.34 and surah 6.115 allah won't allow to change his words but why there's different version of quran and different word like surah 98.6 in hafs version vs warsh version? in hafs says "creatures" and in warsh says "innocents" those.two words are totally different word and meaning. this is only few examples from many different words between hafs and warsh. why allah allowed satan for muhammad.to speak satanic verses in surah 22.52 and surah 53.19-20 and included it in quran while it was in heaven because quran claimed that this book is perfect tablet surah 85.22.
His explanation cannot answer simple question... From those variants, what is the exact quran that fits muhammad recitation to his companions?.
@@MR-by2ei His explanation couldn't answer my simple question...
He recited multiple variants to the companions
@@sirius3333 Talking without proof is a bullshit. I can say too... None of them are Muhammad's quran.
@@emze563 Did Ubay memorize all?.. And who did memorize to each quran variants? ....give the proof please... 😁
@@Aris-lb9zv there's no need for someone to have memorized all the modes of recitation
lol, Muslims used to mock the bible (as they had no choice given the clear different authors) but look at them now!
I just have one question, what Quran on earth matches best the Quran in Allahs heaven?
What are you talking about?
@@OmarAlkhatib-c8z can you not read or understand English?
@@thunderous-one I do but your comment doesn’t make sense
@@OmarAlkhatib-c8z ok, let’s start again………..
Muslims by default are under compulsion to blasphemously state that the bible has been corrupted.
All I’m asking is, what version of the Quran on earth is a dot for dot, letter for letter, word for word perfect reflection of the Quran that’s in Allahs brothel……I mean heaven?🤔
Do you understand me now?🤔
@@thunderous-one all the 7 recitations were revealed by Allah to prophet Muhammed pbuh
The Quran contains vowels. The single Arabic alphabets are alone by themselves.
Originally the Arabic script, less than 100 years old during prophet alayhi salaam 's time, did not have vowels. Like Hebrew it was just consonants. It borrowed some from nabatean,
Everything's different in 2020.
Wahabis have gone mad as well.
No answers.. No answers.. No Answers that you like
Check *Farid responds* channel
@@Muwahid999 It doesn’t matter what Farid says, Or any Islamic scholars, Immans, Shakes say brother.. Their explanations don’t work because the Quran doesn’t work.. Quran doesn’t have any answers, It isn’t from God but the Mind of Corrupted Man.. To try and find truth in a false ideology is the very definition of INSANITY.. As hard it is to believe the evidence is crystal clear.. Flee from the cemetery of Islam, Muhammad,Quran Come to your heavenly Father . Muslims In Humanity.. Break off the shackles of BAAL . May the Light of Messiah destroy the darkness of the Islamic spirit That has billions heading for destruction. In The Name of YAHUAH wa YAHUSHA HaMashiach Wa Ruach HaKodesh..
LMAO! He thinks he clarified things much much better
Nice try to cover the holes in the narrative. Your explanation is not convincing.
Not convincing cause all these terms used flew over your head
Asrar is g ! I like the fella
Tnx God I’m Christian
Worshiping cross and false gospels of people who lived 300 years after the messenger of God Jesus Christ.
muhammad fiaz well according to Muslim sources I can claim that the Bible is preserved since the qu’ran affirms it’s authority, preservation and inspiration. Just ask Muhammad (i.e. read your sources)
kaashee i don’t worship cross but u worship a black stone
😂
Simon Tesfalem yeah you worship Palestinian man who came out between the legs of Jewish woman and call him your god hehe
There are loopholes in the preservation 9f the Quran.
Holes and holes. Too many holes
@muhammad fiaz are you gonna compare the bible with Quran. Let's do it. The men and the book. Jesus and Mohamed. Who is pedophile; who married son wife, who was ordered to kill all mankind,. At least no goat ate the bible, no one says the bible was sent from heaven that is why we don't kill when bible is burned. Jesus word is forgiveness
We even know how many they are. Too much holes
Assalamu alaikum
So there isn’t “just one quran” ayat for ayat? Lol
No, there is just one Qur'an ayat for ayat. Only different Qira'at - methods of recitation, which goes down into the details of the pronunciation in speech and the letters within the script (e.g. diacritical marks, etc.).
Genji Shimada if you say it over and over again, hopefully one day it will become true.
@@noface5605 bruh is the truth you just hate Islam that you can’t take it is our Quran we tell you samething we know better then you people
I know your Bible and torah was changed but you don’t need to be a hater
This guy just make Islamic haters victory am blaming Hijab for promoting this deviation scholars,
Glory be toJesus. Mohamed H. Did not expect such an answer. God wanted to expose the cult of Islam through Mohamedans themselves
May Allah bless every1 in here...
This is so confusing.
37 different arabic versions of the quran and counting. New version drops next week 😂
This Ain’t The Bible Buddy!
wasnt King James a homosexual 🤔
@@ilmco Muhammad had romps with many men according to bukhari. He was a certified man fan
@@jackpaul3315 isn’t strange how Jesus prayed like Mohammed and not like King James 🤔
@@ilmco lol what?! Jesus literally calls people who pray like muslims hypocrites because your cult loves to stand in street corners when praying. The Lord Jesus says God doesn’t hear your prayers 😂- Matthew 6v5- “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.”
Yasir kaqhi was right because this wasn't a debate, but a conversation with the fellow Muslim, so he can't lie to him. But Hijab tried to make it as a debate cause u can't ask ur follow Muslim like that and u expecting him, to do what?? Be blessed Dr Yasir🤗
I have a dream: Yasi Qhadir is leaving Islam one day. Like apostle Paul
all received manuscripts have consonantical differences
- 3.158 Topkapi لا الى ا للـه ىحسروں (lâ ilâ allah = not to Allah)
- 3.158 Hafs 1924 لَإلى اللهِ تُحشَرون (la-ilâ allâh = surely to Alah)
(one single deleted Alif makes that huge difference)
Ubayy the master of desaster
Peter Lol this is your proof!? This makes absolutely no difference. You fools like to grasp at straws.
Peter Ubayy spoke his mind and the Prophet told him the truth and cleared his mind. Simple as that.
Peter and stop going around every video posting the same $hitty lie.
@@ah4356 Not to allah is different from certainly to allah. zipzip