The Tories used to mock Clement Attlee for his lack of charisma yet he won a 146 seat majority, the last time a party gained over 200 seats at a single election and his Government rebuilt the country after WW2, transformed housing in the UK and gave us the NHS. We don’t need an end of the pier showman as PM, we need someone who gets the job done, and that’s quite obviously Kier Starmer.
Both serve the same foreign and corporate interests as Ursula Von Der Leyen. Ursula Von Der Leyen is a member of the board of Trustees of the World Economic Forum of which Putin was once a WEF young global leader under Klaus Schwab. ruclips.net/video/j1n_Cf6pyu4/видео.html
Been in UK 44 years never seen so much hate for politicians, basically whole country is in potholes, health,jobs, cost of living, rising council tax in my eyes mafia tax, housing crisis,just work to live 😭,rich are above the law, poor are just like slaves 😭.,All the billions for Ukraine and nothing for people of this country
But Britain LITERALLY has the Royal Navy! They managed to stop the entire German Army from crossing (also in small boats!) the channel in 1940, yet are somehow paralysed from preventing 2 Afghans and a donkey from crossing the North Sea now!!!! How does this make sense!???
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 it's okay to not always be thinking straight but please rest and heal your mind. Don't stress yourself by voting unless it's for reform 😉🇬🇧
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 You're judging Farage on something which someone else did. He handled it pretty well, certainly professionally. And she was charged. No annihilation of Farage there. It's good that something so petty is the worst thing you can think of criticising Reform for though.
No one of them spoke about the safety of the British people in the war going in Ukraine and the threats of Russia to wipe up United Kingdom for existence??!!! No bankers has been made for people no single effort has been taken!!!!!!! ? They just talk about emigration is this the people we should trust with our life with!!!!!!!? NO No NO definitely NO . Im voting for people working party is priority nuclear safety for British people and foreign policy
Brexit caused the UK economy to shrink. Has Nigel Farage ever accepted his responsibility in that? Everyone here rooting for Reform ought to keep that in mind.
@@merlylvsm He got us all out... Making us an independent, self governing nation .. That hurts you? It's up to the government to then make policies and stick to them to make us better as a country... If farage was in power after we left we would have benefited.
This is the election after the one that had profound consequences and the Tories ignored an 80 seat majority..... Not that we want Liebour, a vote for either is a vote for more WEF!! So vote REFORM UK.
Yes. The most intrusive man in british politics. He'd be better off being sent back to ireland where he can stop his kind coming here: Which he will be more than capable of doing all on his own and at no cost to the british taxpayer?
So if you are a Reform Voter, here is a question for you... Other than Reforms immigration policies, what other Reform policies are you most looking forward to, and why???
Just for reform to win less than 5 seats, and farage to jump ship to the conservative party🤣🤣🤣🤣. even farage knows reform can't find enough low-iq racists to vote for them to win an election
Yeah if you want the economy to fall to pieces, taxes to go through the roof, and NHS to fall apart. People are fickle Farage is saying what you want to hear that’s it there’s no meat behind the bone. Be careful what you wish for.
@@DarrenJamiesonJamieson Womp womp. They represent common sense politics. Such as raising the minimum income tax rate from £12k to £20k. Or a pledge to let the people decide on scrapping the medieval & unrepresentative pass the post voting system to break the 2 party model. A reform of our broken NHS, broken immigration model & housing. No other party has the stones or common sense to truly change this country for the betterment of the people instead of the shareholders & globalists.
I sat through the entire thing and it was awful. Quite how either of them can even take themselves seriously is beyond Me. A dismal attempt to out deceive each other, making themselves look like low dodgy confidence tricksters in the process. If the BBC is proud of itself for affording this tripe a platform then it needs to question its own standards big time.
Labour say there Solution is to PROCESS THEM FASTER and LET THEM STAY. That should be A Wake Up Call To Everyone In Our Country. Starmer will Create a Free For All and the NUMBERS WILL INCREASE Every Single Day. For the Sake of Our Country and Our Children WE ALL NEED TO VOTE REFORM.
A vote for Reform is a vote for Kier Starmer’s Labour. He has opposed everything he says he will do. I don’t trust Kier Starmer. I think we’re on the right path and will Conservative.
It seems like they are echoing Nigel’s rhetoric in his absence, all while ignoring the very boats and immigrants that they choose not to address or take action on.
Have you ever seen 2 more pathetic "leaders" ? George Galloway would have sent these 2 to bed, without any supper. That's obviously why he's not allowed on the debate stage.
I understand the sentiment in the comments regarding Reform - but they genuinely don’t have the talent in the party to actual deliver on what they say, other than Farage the rest are inexperienced candidates with questionable backgrounds. It’s easy to say what the problem is, it’s another to deliver it. It’s a big risk to vote Reform. Brexit is a good example.
doesn't help when farage himself know his party's ceiling is 5-10 seats cause only uneducated racists vote for them. thats why hes going to jump ship to the tories when the party implodes
@@SH-bm8yp yeah I mean we need to stop this whole argument of pro immigration v anti immigration, I think it makes sense to divide it into good immigration v bad immigration because immigration is inherently positive for the economy
@@JeffreyPullen-lp4oe it’s easy to see that they are both awful, that’s why we need reform to help do away with the two party system that are way too similar now to create real balance.
Kier the tool doesn’t care what he said, because the poles show big win 450 MPs. That’s the disaster of the century Labour will change the system in so many ways that we will have Labour for ever Imagine working and pay 80% of your money back to the government. Time to look for a better country to live in.
it's wrong that only 2 out of 5 common candidates get to be on that stage. as for those 2, both of them make valid accusations, because both of them have done things wrong. expect the end of the world to be that much worse if it happens when one of them is prime minister.
If people vote labour look backwards and see what is coming your way 1980 is back no jobs no money and no uk so think your man and women l was their.think about a new start in reform party 4:47 p.
Britons have the chance to free their country from corporate and foreign influence and appoint a government that works for them . Dump the contraceptives and labour in the dustbin of history. 🌎❤️🇬🇧
That was one single poll, with new and possibly unreliable mathematics. We won't know if it's reliable until we actually have an election to compare to. The newest poll also puts reform back under the tories. It was in the margin of error too, meaning the percentages could be pretty much anywhere around the one they got. It could be more, but compared to every other poll... Probably less. It also doesn't translate to seats / power like the tory vote does. Reform votes are too spread out.
@@Lucysweirdandstrange if reform uk's voters actually decided to do some research into immigration instead of getting facts of some bot on facebook , they wouldn't win a single seat. immigration is NOT the UK's biggest problem, you and reform uk's voters just don't like seeing non-white ppl in ur little villages or towns.
One of the reasons why the UK economy is so bad is foreign policy. Foreign policy gets a lot of attention and a lot of money is invested in it, but no leader pays attention to their Internal issues. It is a pity that the government always pays less attention to the position of working-class families. People who are living illegally in this country should be sent to their own country, not to Uganda. Sadly, sometimes leaders talk too much and it's only brainwashed but people understand the hypocrisy of talk. 👀😡
@@Kushdeeskates, She was the dumbo picked by Conservative members which was the biggest mistake. Rishi has in last 18 months corrected her mistake and our economy is on the right track now.
England should be run by English people not from one generation but many before the person. Same as every other country in the world it should be governed by people who's family have lived in that country for generations, otherwise the leaders will bring there culture and ignore the country's there in culture.
Two of the most Uncharismatic leaders in the UK history
Just overbearingly mediocre from both sides
Tools
Didnt realise you had to be a stand up comedian to be pm
The Tories used to mock Clement Attlee for his lack of charisma yet he won a 146 seat majority, the last time a party gained over 200 seats at a single election and his Government rebuilt the country after WW2, transformed housing in the UK and gave us the NHS. We don’t need an end of the pier showman as PM, we need someone who gets the job done, and that’s quite obviously Kier Starmer.
Boris Johnson was charismatic. Look where that got us.
Watching these two debates is even more boring and snoozing than watching England in Euro Cup
🙄
Need a couple of stiff drinks to get through both
Watching the English is class this year if ur Scottish 🏴
Emmerdale
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363yeah no point watching Euro 2024 if your Scottish 😂😢
Same clowns different suits.
Different heights
Both serve the same foreign and corporate interests as Ursula Von Der Leyen.
Ursula Von Der Leyen is a member of the board of Trustees of the World Economic Forum of which Putin was once a WEF young global leader under Klaus Schwab.
ruclips.net/video/j1n_Cf6pyu4/видео.html
Excuse me, circuses have standards
Laurel & Hardy
Id say Same poop, different flies on top
Voting for either Rishi Sunak or Kier Starmer for PM is like having to pick between Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris to babysit your kids.
Lol!
You need a P.M. to babysit you're kids?
Vote reform then
@@Abrahamlincoln7890 Adolf Hitker & The Red Barron: No chance!
Dishonesty reigns
Been in UK 44 years never seen so much hate for politicians, basically whole country is in potholes, health,jobs, cost of living, rising council tax in my eyes mafia tax, housing crisis,just work to live 😭,rich are above the law, poor are just like slaves 😭.,All the billions for Ukraine and nothing for people of this country
And there doesn’t seem to be away out unless Wales and Scotland now push for independence
evil have been exposed..people have had enough..vote these WEF puppets out..vote Reform.
We need more English people, not British people in this country, keep out the riff raff flooding in our cities and politics.
Not sure why health charge so high?
Leaders debate with no leaders 😂
What a horrible mess. Pathetic!
The country needs to make the choice and send both of these two to political oblivion.
It's a sham, it's engineered so you can't.
They won’t debate Farage because he would embarrass them both, neither of them have had one debate with him.
Even a financial incentive couldn't stop me voting Reform at this stage.
Farage is an walking embarrassment
I'm not a fan of Farage but I still agree
Farage is a liar and a charlatan. I can't believe people haven't realised that since the disaster of Brexit.
Thats cos outside of your far right wing echo chamber he’s a non entity… fixed it for you
WE NEED MAJOR REFORM!
I agree
I do too. But I don't believe Nigel is the answer.
This was 10,000X more coherent of a debate than the two dementia patients who just debated in the US.
L + no empire + fell off + we made you our bitch
Two disasters
A pair of wxnkers
Facism?
Badly managed by BBC.
WE NEED TO REFORM THE UK
To bad i get added on electoral register on august 1st
The biggest pile of pish I’ve ever watched. Our country is fucked if this is really our options. We all need to wake up.
I'm awake I'm voting Reform 😊
don't vote voting is for losers
Go back to sleep then
Need more ENGLISH PEOPLE, not the "British" riff raff like the Sunaks coming in not paying their fair share.
Reform Reform Reform ❤
Racist racist racist
How@@shonwamcfeckerty7363
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363Everyone who’s voting Labour is either dumb, naive or mentally ill.
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363youve replied to every reform comment so far, are you mentally okay or had one to many tonight? Your a weirdo 🤣
Boring @@shonwamcfeckerty7363
But Britain LITERALLY has the Royal Navy! They managed to stop the entire German Army from crossing (also in small boats!) the channel in 1940, yet are somehow paralysed from preventing 2 Afghans and a donkey from crossing the North Sea now!!!! How does this make sense!???
all planned..there mostly military and being trained
All planned, they want more slave workers and use it' as a distraction.
Because they are small boats and the English channel is very big. It's hard to pick up rubber dingy as it won't show up on radar.
Will Labour charge us per mile to travel in our own vehicles? I trust neither of these clowns to run a tap let alone the country.
Cough!
Tonight's debate has confirmed to me why I have already voted for Nigel Farage. No regrets for my early choice.
He’s a pidgeon pal.
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 it's okay to not always be thinking straight but please rest and heal your mind. Don't stress yourself by voting unless it's for reform 😉🇬🇧
@@smiler92x- pal yer grand leader got analihated off a bird that gets her cheeks oot for less than a G of stardawg
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 I'm assuming you mean the only fans milkshake tosser? I think it's because he unsubscribed from her channel a week prior 😂
@@shonwamcfeckerty7363 You're judging Farage on something which someone else did. He handled it pretty well, certainly professionally. And she was charged. No annihilation of Farage there. It's good that something so petty is the worst thing you can think of criticising Reform for though.
There needs to be big changes because I am not voting for Labour or Tories. This is a joke
No one of them spoke about the safety of the British people in the war going in Ukraine and the threats of Russia to wipe up United Kingdom for existence??!!! No bankers has been made for people no single effort has been taken!!!!!!! ? They just talk about emigration is this the people we should trust with our life with!!!!!!!? NO No NO definitely NO . Im voting for people working party is priority nuclear safety for British people and foreign policy
Look its 2 plebs👉
The best advert for reform uk. Nigel wins without being there.
VOTE REFORM
Vote no one. Boycott voting pal
Nah u gotta give kier that vote cause his da was a toolmaker he personally requested ma pal to tell you he wants you parcicularly to vote for him 👍
Brexit caused the UK economy to shrink. Has Nigel Farage ever accepted his responsibility in that? Everyone here rooting for Reform ought to keep that in mind.
Nigel got us out , it's the government to then make policies... You can't blame farage for the way the conservative handled it.
@@-marshy- Nigel got you out, and got himself out - all the way to Germany. 😂
@@merlylvsm
He got us all out...
Making us an independent, self governing nation ..
That hurts you?
It's up to the government to then make policies and stick to them to make us better as a country...
If farage was in power after we left we would have benefited.
This is the election after the one that had profound consequences and the Tories ignored an 80 seat majority..... Not that we want Liebour, a vote for either is a vote for more WEF!! So vote REFORM UK.
Where is nigel farage
We’re all screwed… Time pack the bags and leave the UK I think
I'm thinking the same
the bottom line is we are fed lies just like in the US.
I’m voting reform.
And where would you go?
We are in trouble.
Wheres nigel ? He would wipe the floor with both of them .what about illegal migrants reform for me
Nigel Garbage is probably too busy claiming his expenses to redistribute it amongst his family.
Yes. The most intrusive man in british politics. He'd be better off being sent back to ireland where he can stop his kind coming here: Which he will be more than capable of doing all on his own and at no cost to the british taxpayer?
*_Where is the main party REFORM ? Ignored (at their peril ) ..._*
So if you are a Reform Voter, here is a question for you... Other than Reforms immigration policies, what other Reform policies are you most looking forward to, and why???
As you are obviously NOT a reform voter - why does it matter to you?
Immigration getting sorted out sorts 90 % of our problems….. if you disagree, why?
£20.000 tax bracket/broader fiscal policy.
@@kg_hfc So are you happy with the £70,000 tax bracket
@@PaulJones-xl6xq Do you agree with the privatisation of the NHS?
Fight! Fight! Fight!
NON OV ABOVE
VOTE REFORM UK 😊
What is "ov above"????
@@childofthe60s100it is an intrusive term meaning: We are Roman and will make The Britsh pay!
We want niko omilana
We want to change the law party’s should be legally bound to their manifesto none of them are legally bound to do what we voted for that’s not correct
I can't bare starmer
A good job too!
Who would want to see him "bare"?
Yeah, but his dad was a tool maker
I cant listen to him as he gives me the creeps, as does that vile Rayner woman.
"Bare him"? You strange person 😂
@@childofthe60s100😂😂
Reform just laughing in the distance 😂
Just for reform to win less than 5 seats, and farage to jump ship to the conservative party🤣🤣🤣🤣. even farage knows reform can't find enough low-iq racists to vote for them to win an election
Reform all the way
Scotland all the way 🏴
rishi is out no matter who he debates against which i compleyely agree with
What planet are you from 😂
VOTE REFORM UK
Yeah if you want the economy to fall to pieces, taxes to go through the roof, and NHS to fall apart. People are fickle Farage is saying what you want to hear that’s it there’s no meat behind the bone. Be careful what you wish for.
Vote for any one but contraceptives and labour
Are they the most intrusive (like you)?
@@DarrenJamiesonJamieson Womp womp. They represent common sense politics. Such as raising the minimum income tax rate from £12k to £20k. Or a pledge to let the people decide on scrapping the medieval & unrepresentative pass the post voting system to break the 2 party model. A reform of our broken NHS, broken immigration model & housing. No other party has the stones or common sense to truly change this country for the betterment of the people instead of the shareholders & globalists.
Vote Reform
Totally 👍
Me to Reform 🎉
You mean vote torie B team 😂
@@JeffreyPullen-lp4oe no, Tory S.W.A.T team 😂
I like some of labour’s policies, BUT we have to stop LEGAL immigration.. Vote Reform.
I sat through the entire thing and it was awful. Quite how either of them can even take themselves seriously is beyond Me. A dismal attempt to out deceive each other, making themselves look like low dodgy confidence tricksters in the process. If the BBC is proud of itself for affording this tripe a platform then it needs to question its own standards big time.
Vote for none of them. They all on the same payroll
If you vote it confirms to them that you have fallen for the fake democracy.
Who the F watch's BBc these day's??? and believes BBc news don't pay the licence.
Labour say there Solution is to PROCESS THEM FASTER and LET THEM STAY. That should be A Wake Up Call To Everyone In Our Country. Starmer will Create a Free For All and the NUMBERS WILL INCREASE Every Single Day. For the Sake of Our Country and Our Children WE ALL NEED TO VOTE REFORM.
Sunak has brought them all in already!!!
Nonsense! No government wants unlimited immigration.
A vote for Reform is a vote for Kier Starmer’s Labour. He has opposed everything he says he will do. I don’t trust Kier Starmer.
I think we’re on the right path and will Conservative.
@@kaishaifta7758that's what deportation is for
It's a sham election they both work for the same establishment change will only happen with revolution.
It seems like they are echoing Nigel’s rhetoric in his absence, all while ignoring the very boats and immigrants that they choose not to address or take action on.
I don't care for either. I'm voting Reform. I don't care if I get Labour of ruin the Tories. It's time to clear the decks for Nigel.
I don't vote Tory or Labour, but if you think Nigel Fridge will be PM you're smoking something dodgy. 😂😂
How many of you coming here today to check this video? 😂
Reform all the way this debate has made up my mind for sure 🏴🏴🏴
Appalling non entities. I’d rather listen to a walrus farting. Reform all the way.
Neither of them could make it to middle management in a profit making organisation.
They couldn’t manage a Tesco.
(Wait whilst i put caps lock on).. VOTE REFORM ALL MY FAMILY ARE AND MY FRIENDS AND MY GOLDFISH CLARENCE AND MY HEDGEHOG PUTIN
Have you ever seen 2 more pathetic "leaders" ?
George Galloway would have sent these 2 to bed, without any supper.
That's obviously why he's not allowed on the debate stage.
Did you know starmer was public prosecutor and his dad was a toolmaker and he will smash the gangs ???
This man is a serious danger to our country!!!
Britain needs Reform!! ❤❤❤ 🇬🇧 🏴 🏴 🏴 ❤❤❤
Starmer won't answer a simple question, that's because he's a lying slippery bar steward.
Dumb and Dumber the rerunning
I understand the sentiment in the comments regarding Reform - but they genuinely don’t have the talent in the party to actual deliver on what they say, other than Farage the rest are inexperienced candidates with questionable backgrounds. It’s easy to say what the problem is, it’s another to deliver it. It’s a big risk to vote Reform. Brexit is a good example.
But but but scary immigrants!! 😢😭😱
doesn't help when farage himself know his party's ceiling is 5-10 seats cause only uneducated racists vote for them. thats why hes going to jump ship to the tories when the party implodes
@@SH-bm8yp yeah I mean we need to stop this whole argument of pro immigration v anti immigration, I think it makes sense to divide it into good immigration v bad immigration because immigration is inherently positive for the economy
Neither of these two clowns should be leading our great country, vote Reform uk.
Why is farage not on the debate?
Maybe educate yourself on how the British political system works and you'll know. It's not that hard.
@@SH-bm8yp you really don’t have to when the figures show he’s the biggest opposition? What on earth are you talking about?
Starmer is SO AWFUL
He will ruin the country
After all the tories have done and you say that 😂
@@JeffreyPullen-lp4oe it’s easy to see that they are both awful, that’s why we need reform to help do away with the two party system that are way too similar now to create real balance.
@@BedmomentsFar less intrusive: Lets become D-formers (CSCS Card inclusive)!!
@@Bedmoments it's that little prick who started Brexiit. You mean the tory B team
Rishi Sunak is leading in the recent Prime Ministerial election debate in the UK against Starmer.
So motorists will get mugged by Labour, and your council tax will go through the roof.
What else are you capable of?
Waste of a debate. It all be same outcome no matter who wins. This is all a distraction
I couldn't agree more, these people are bought and paid for fall guys.
Is someone having a breakdown in the background?
If either of these 2 get in theyre only going to fill their pockets.
That's every politician, you muppet.
Sunak no thanks lets have boring capable leadership for awhile and no scandals that has got so old.
It's time for change, it's time for Reform.
Two dudes run by establishment 😢no vision
Correct a sham election change will only happen with revolution.
Labour would tell you anything and always have?
Kier the tool doesn’t care what he said, because the poles show big win
450 MPs. That’s the disaster of the century
Labour will change the system in so many ways that we will have Labour for ever
Imagine working and pay 80% of your money back to the government.
Time to look for a better country to live in.
Lol bye, Felica! 👋🏻
Where is Nigel didn't he get an invitation
Do you even know how British politics works? Why are all you commenters here so thick? It's mind numbing.
Don't get the labour government is evil thing. All my family ( even tory voters)got rich during Blair.
2 millionaires pretending to help people that are struggling daily...the Matrix
Vote reform
How can I watch this in full please
You sure you want to put yourself through that?!
@@leen1q84 you’re both wankers but wanted to see what the clowns had to say
Yeh what is starmers plan?? He aint got one
it's wrong that only 2 out of 5 common candidates get to be on that stage. as for those 2, both of them make valid accusations, because both of them have done things wrong. expect the end of the world to be that much worse if it happens when one of them is prime minister.
Where were you both when, in Parliament, excess deaths was and is discussed?
There is only one party worth voting for reform UK.
If people vote labour look backwards and see what is coming your way 1980 is back no jobs no money and no uk so think your man and women l was their.think about a new start in reform party 4:47 p.
Britons have the chance to free their country from corporate and foreign influence and appoint a government that works for them . Dump the contraceptives and labour in the dustbin of history.
🌎❤️🇬🇧
I used to believe in Santa and I grew up. I used to believe in democracy and I grew up.
both WEF puppets..voteReform
Rigged
Engineered so we have no choice. These people are bought and paid for
Fall guys.
Where was NIGEL?? Second biggest party no tv debate,Shocking..
That was one single poll, with new and possibly unreliable mathematics. We won't know if it's reliable until we actually have an election to compare to.
The newest poll also puts reform back under the tories.
It was in the margin of error too, meaning the percentages could be pretty much anywhere around the one they got. It could be more, but compared to every other poll... Probably less.
It also doesn't translate to seats / power like the tory vote does. Reform votes are too spread out.
What was starmers answer to how do we close our borders
He will let them all in
Close them and see who does the jobs we need.
Hint...it won't be you.
@randyschwaggins worked all my life me pal, literally,
you know nothing about me. So, ssshhhhhhhh.
@@Lucysweirdandstrange if reform uk's voters actually decided to do some research into immigration instead of getting facts of some bot on facebook , they wouldn't win a single seat.
immigration is NOT the UK's biggest problem, you and reform uk's voters just don't like seeing non-white ppl in ur little villages or towns.
He won’t be closing them. The first thing he will do is grant everyone in the country citizenship.
Dodgy banker vs dodgy human rights lawyer.
One of the reasons why the UK economy is so bad is foreign policy. Foreign policy gets a lot of attention and a lot of money is invested in it, but no leader pays attention to their Internal issues.
It is a pity that the government always pays less attention to the position of working-class families.
People who are living illegally in this country should be sent to their own country, not to Uganda.
Sadly, sometimes leaders talk too much and it's only brainwashed but people understand the hypocrisy of talk. 👀😡
UK needs to get back to looking after English people not the riff raff British
Both are out of reality
All you need to know about the state of the current western democracy can be gleaned from the recent Biden/Trump and Rishi/Starmer debates.
Snake versus the Puppet.
What about LIZ TRUSS
@@NavinShah-nk1tv What about LIZ TRUSS?
@@Kushdeeskates, She was the dumbo picked by Conservative members which was the biggest mistake. Rishi has in last 18 months corrected her mistake and our economy is on the right track now.
All mp are clowns
Putin has the balls to stand against the WEST.
As a British person I want to vote for Putin as prime minister as I am so f sick of this country.
Get these muppets out
England should be run by English people not from one generation but many before the person. Same as every other country in the world it should be governed by people who's family have lived in that country for generations, otherwise the leaders will bring there culture and ignore the country's there in culture.
Ta Ra Rishi
Both have the charisma and personality of soggy piece of bread.