145 Pounds lost on Carnivore over the past year, Thank You Doc Berry your advise saved my life. I do eat a few Cruciferous Vegetables each day but never more than 20 carbs daily. I fast 18 hours every day
Farmers basically eat twice a day, breakfast after morning chores and supper after evening chores. We never had lunch growing up, just didn't happen and we were thin.
Yes. Never were breakfast people growing up. As a kid I'd have dinner at 6-7pm, go out to hunt early the next morning. Have nothing , not even water, maybe a few sips of dad's coffee to warm up. Get home , dress game, fish then dinner about 6 again. That's a 23ish hour dry fast a time or two a month. We were strong and active kids.
I ate like most Americans eat for over 55 years and was metabolically ill. I wised up and went back to my roots in eating mostly animal products and Intermittent fasting and never felt better.
Well, not all farmers. My mother’s family were farmers as were some of my father in-laws family. They ate breakfast, dinner and supper. Breakfast was a large meal after mornings first chores. It was very early. Dinner was a large meal about or shortly after noon. Supper was the evening meal with left overs from dinner and maybe something else added if need be. Generally it wasn’t quite as large as dinner. All these farmers were my grandparents generation. People born very late 1800s and before 1920. They didn’t really eat lunch foods.
@@wendytravis6427 My father was born in 1905, and while they might eat something light mid-day, leftover bacon etc. they did eat two meals. So interesting how different families do different things, whatever works best for them.
I have always loved breakfast for dinner, a beautiful omelette. Now, I love poached eggs on my big juicy burger. There is also a meat and egg waffle recipe I can’t wait to try. ❤
@C Morton. Well done. I do very similar. Also do a weekly 36 hour fast. Feel great. Meat, fat, organ meat, fish ,eggs, salt. That's all you need (+ water !!)
@John Recker mostly carnivore with a few berries, and maybe some riced cauliflower, tomatoes and avocados- so, ketovore. I do have coffee, but no sugar or seed oils. I just saw a thing about upping my protein, so I'm gonna do that 😊
I heard a fitness guy named Charles Poliquin say something that made a lot of sense. He said "you have to earn your carbs." Basically the more physically demanding your life is the more carbs you can get away with eating. For most people's lifestyles today they'd be better off focusing on protein and healthy fats and keep carbs to a minimum except on days where they're way more active.
@@fry1507 yeah I do a physical job too. I don't always eat a lot of carbs. But during the day when I'm working I might some days. Like my girl cooked a pot roast with potatoes and carrots and I had some. Or I might have berries with my lunch. But when I eat in the evenings after work I usually stick to eating something like steak and eggs
The notion of breakfast was commodified by the industrial food complex. In actuality it only refers to the first meal you have after a period of fasting, hence 'break-fast'.
@@donelmore2540 Some research does look that way but it could be that calorie restriction puts them into ketosis and it is the ketosis that provides the benefit.
@Robin Beers depends how long they are fasting for, if they are doing 18 hours or longer they are reaching autophagy wich is your body recycling bad cells out with the old in with the new.
Thar was a fantastic and very informative interview, Dr. B. I was so impressed that you didn't try to rebutt the comment about red meat. To me, it demonstrated a high level of respect for your guest. And he in return, wanted some advice about nut consumption! Great respect for the both of you!
Eating 3 meals a day has nothing to do with farming. When you are working hard, you may want a break but you don't want to eat because that makes it difficult to work afterwards. We just waited until supper when we could enjoy a good meal, relax, then sleep. I think that city slickers were the ones that wanted to eat so often because they had nothing better to do!
My great grandparents were farmers. My mom said the workers ate breakfast and didn't eat again until it was too dark to work or dusk. Is this the norm? or was mom full of it?
@@itsjustme7487 I grew up in a farming community and this is how they all ate too large high protein high fat breakfast and most days no time or desire for lunch when your sweating you buns off and then an almost identical supper but maybe slightly more carbs at supper
I grew up on a dairy farm. The morning chores would be done, then everyone came in for breakfast. If we were working out in the fields, or if we went to school, we had sandwiches for lunch. Our largest meal of the day was supper. So we had three meals a day.
My hypothesis is that the three-meals-per-day practice was popularized by WOMEN seeking to valorise their contribution to tribal life. I’m a female myself, just so you know.
@KAT I agree. My great grandmother was chunky. After her husband died, she fasted a lot and became very slim. She had eleven children, so that might have had something to do with the chunk. Also, the women and children ate after the men had had their fill.
Before I even was a quarter of the way through this interview, I immediately looked up whether or not Dr. Mattson was vegan. He is probably healthy, but he doesn’t look it to me. When I was on keto and lost all my weight, I had the same look. I was not eating enough meat. I gained some of the weight back, and now I am doing Carnivore. I have increased my meat and collagen intake, and I am hoping my face will not look quite so emaciated. It may just be a product of being 70 years old but I’m hoping I’ll have a little bit of fat on my face. Oh, well, it will be what it’ll be!
Emaciated? Dr. Mattson or you? Dr. Mattson looks healthy. If you're in many parts of the USA outside urban areas, you're used to seeing people over age 30 years pervasively sporting 'Chipmunk Cheeks' (slang for the fat-in-the-face you're speaking about). Not uncommon ... but Not required for good health!
I was more than happy to hear how exogenous ketones consumption protects the brain. I drink them daily, bc my dad has dementia and I want to avoid it at all costs. I studied Chinese Medicine 30 years ago and the most important piece of advice from a lecturer was, prevention is better than cure.
This makes so much sense about leptin resistance. I say so because before I embarked on my health improvement journey, I used to think that perhaps my full button in my brain was broken.
Dr B is the best at listening , interjecting his points respectfully and I think gleaning out the Wonderful intellectual nuggets from these giants in their fields. Remember everyone, not one of us is 100% right.
When he first started speaking, I thought he looked very unhealthy. Then he said he eats a lot of vegetables and doesn’t think much of keto! Good points on IF, terrible on diet- he looks sickly.
Knew a guy years ago (1998) that had brain cancer & the doctors told him to get his things in order because he had maybe two months to live. He went and saw a naturopath who put him on a strict Organic lots of greens diet. A few months later, I ran into him, I could not believe how good he looked. His skin glowed, his eyes were clear & he looked so healthy! The cancer did take his life two years later. But after I saw him, looking so healthy, I started reading about pesticides & the loss of nutrients in the soil. I then went organic with everything, even with meat.
As soon as I saw him I thought he had that vegan look or strict plant based even though he eats fish. There is just a totally different look to meat eaters and plant eaters , the former have fuller faces with good color , the latter look gaunt and saggy. I will never understand the opinion that we didn’t always eat meat … we wiped out animals because we ate so many lol so how it ever came to be that we were supposed to only eat plants and nuts ia crazy to me.
I do love these conversation though, it shows how people so involved in one or two aspects of something are completely divorced from other aspects. We just cannot escape the years of being told certain things and we refuse to believe we can be so wrong on some things.
Thank you Dr.Berry for that interview. It was very informative. I won't throw my hands up in defeat on my weight loss journey even though I'm down 90 lbs and probably need about that much more to lose. I'm basking in the fine results of my loss so far, and just as I feel, I am a lifelong learner, as loss as I have life in me and the quality has improved, I'll be on a lifelong journey of wellness thanks to you and your tribe. Wishing you and yours continued good health. 👍 🙂
I've pretty much been doing OMAD od 2MAD for 17 months now. I lost 45lbs last year , but not lost anymore for the last 8 months. I still have some to lose, but am happy with the current balance. I don't really feel the need to eat between meals, and I can't see any problems, only benefits.
Fasting just happened naturally for me when I started keto because I just wasn't hungry. I use to get the shakes if I didn't eat but that doesn't happen anymore at all. I fast 18-22hrs or so. I just eat when I get hungry. I feel so much better when I don't eat 2-3x a day and going carnivore makes me feel even better than keto did. I've learned that 99% of veggies don't agree with me. I have fibromyalgia, RA, chronic fatigue syndrome and Celiac disease. If I eat sugar, dairy, starch or carbs of any kind including veggies, I feel horrid and my body hurts. If I eat only meat, butter, bacon and eggs, I feel normal again!
@Ian Stuart thank you. I just wish more people would listen. I know so many ppl with the same issues and they won't do anything about it. Too much faith in their dr.
Do you still suffer symptoms of all your chronic illnesses? I have friends/ family members who have these illnesses. But nothing I have said and witnessed have made an impact on them.
@Debbie Goad Yes, if I eat carbs, starchy foods, sugar, dairy and most veggies and spices, my symptoms come back. They make me feel horrid, my body hurts, and the veggies tear up my stomach and make me feel bad. I'm still sick but a lot better than I was. It takes time to heal the gut and get better. I moved to Carnivore at the end of March. I've tried reintroducing foods, but they still bother me. I'm hoping that eventually I can eat some veggies, I miss salads. The gut has everything to do with health, so healing it is important and takes time. We didn't get sick over night, it took yrs so getting better isn't going to happen over night.
@Debbie Goad People have to want to get better. They won't listen to you and do anything until they are sick and tired of being sick and tired or they have a serious health scare. I totally get it. I love food and I love to eat. I use to say I didn't eat to live, I lived to eat. I was addicted to carbs and sugar. I started keto because I was sick of being fat. I had gained 60lbs and I could no longer work. Keto made me feel better and I lost 27lbs. I just kept learning about it and how foods can cause health issues, including mine. I also take a few supplements. I was able to go back to work in Jan after 15yrs! Keep sharing testimonies and videos. When I share videos like Dr. Berry, I tell ppl to read the comments. There is always amazing testimonials there.
Awesome interview!💞 I love fasting so much! I have followed a usually 16-18- he then eat mostly one good meat meal!I'm 65 but feel like I'm no more than 40. I'm trying to get to feeling 25! Lol thanks for this!
I fast once/wk for a 40 hr time period, from Wed night to Fri afternoon. I supplement when breaking the fast. Also exercise 3 days/wk with weights and 2-3 days walking for 1-1.5 hrs. Have been doing this for 7 weeks, along with cleaning up my diet (less carbs, no sugar, no processed foods). Have lost 23 lbs in seven weeks. Not necessarily doing any particular diet, yet at times i’ll eat keto meals. Ran across all of this after getting POTS symptoms post-recovery from long-Covid, as well as having fainting episodes. I went to a few doctors and even the ER when i thought i was having a heart attack. What i’ve learned is that i was metabolically broken, and that the current medical apparatus completely failed to asses my situation appropriately. I’m on the lookout now for a doctor outside the system who can help me with my diet, hormones and fasting advice. Most doctors nowadays are not equipped with the info req’d to help 93% of people in the U.S. with their metabolic health. I’m 49 and seriously thinking about how i can get help with diet/fasting/exercise as a holistic approach of healthcare rather than getting into the current system again.
Thanks gents for this excellent talk. Keto + IF (OMAD, 18-6. 48hr etc.) has treated me very well, and due in no small part to you and folks like you. Thank you!
Mark reminds me a little of Doc Brown in back to the future. Great info. One issues with the blue zones is healthy user bias. Higher carbs in those zones also preclude the eating of junk food and drive throughs. Even plant based will be healthier than standard American diet. The people eating meat in a drive through with industrial seed oils coating the fries and the milkshakes are equated to “meat eaters” There are no large modern communities of predominately carnivore or clean ketogentic to have a real comparison so of course blue zones will have longer life spans. Of course high fiber plant based will be better than industry lab creations with a side of death.
As for the ending suggesting that if parents smoke or drink, the kids will continue that, very disheartening. My parents both smoked like a chimney and drank like a fish, mom died at 63 with cancer and tumours that she didn't know she had, and dad died at 74, in his living room chair. He was found a few days later by his buddy, and there was an open bottle of whiskey on the side table right beside him. He also had a number of health issues, many that he hid from us that we didn't know about until we cleaned out his house. I, on the other hand, Never got into smoking because of the disgust I had of it growing up with it always in my face, and I don't drink. I am healthy as a horse, on keto, and will live until I'm old and gray, dying peacefully in my sleep at 105 years old like my great grandmother 🥰
I also have a very low BMI and I have to make sure I'm eating enough to maintain my weight. So far it has stayed steady even though I can see that I still lose fat. I've been adding exercise 3 times a week, particularly jumping and jump rope on a hard surface to help with bone density.
Changed to. Carnivore diet about three months ago age 70 my 25 year battle with COPD is down to almost nothing the mucus is down at least 80 % and medication down to only when l need it thank you doctor ken
A: that could be his camera. Dr berry does RUclips professionally. B: data is more convincing than opinion, you gotta back up your position with data when debating an opinion
Despite eating poorly this week (by choice - partner's 50th) I have found (n=1) that carnivore is the best way of eating for me; OMAD, I've lost almost 20kgs. This poor man has not kept up with the debunking of the "blue zones" etc. He looks quite unwell in my opinion - too many carbs and no, vegetable are NOT good for you. Well done Ken for not pandering to his incorrectness with diet, exercise etc. Otherwise great interview with many points of interest for us life long learners.
IF - I have IBS (SIBO, candida..- yes I'm working on that) IF helps me to control IBS. Drinking liquids in the morning really helps my gut. When I start eating too early after getting up, and I don't drink enough liquids - I end up with nausea, and IBS symptoms (cramps). IF helps me with my issues.
There is no publish date. I am drowning in a backlog of videos to watch, and no time to watch old videos. The lack of a date stamp means that I cannot, in good conscience, put this in my playlists of immediate tonight or immediate morning. I can only put it in the maybe someday playlist, which will only be watched if I ever get sick and have nothing better to do than watch old, long, maybe someday videos.
I saw really great benefits of weight loss and I felt better when I intermittently fasted. However I still had my digestive issues along with other issues at a young age. Later on I tried carnivore with it and wow I actually had health issues disappearing along with fixing my digestive system and gut issues. It took time to adjust to all meat because my stomach acid levels were low. 18 months later I am still doing it. It’s not a miracle cure though if your suffering from mold issues or bii (breast implants illness) or other things similar to that. Not everything can be fix by what you eat
Fantastic interview …. Thank You both for your time. I got a lot out this video … like they say “Two brains is better than one” and I need all the help I can get! 😅🇦🇺💜
Top marks for clarity and illumination on this issue - 5:2 (as relayed to me by Dr Michael Mosley's 'Eat Fast' diet finally got me to beat the looming middle-age bulge) and ultimately transformed my future. It can be tough, and I stumbled but the effects start to show up in weeks as you land lighter on the scales 😄
Wow. Dr Mattson is a very interesting guy, and he and he has a tremendous amount of knowledge and experience. We may need to work on him to be more accepting of red meat. Since he is currently a professor at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, he is aces with me. Cheers from Baltimore and thanks for introducing him to me/us.
44:00 This might sound harsh, but this is how I make my health judgements. On the left we have a man who eats mostly red meat, and on the right we have a man that avoids red meat. Which one of them looks healthier and stronger?
After he said Eat less a red meat, I knew I will not be buying his books. The need to restrict calories because he is eating other garbage, Supposedly healthy garbage.
For people with more muscle mass than average and low body fat, doing fasted high intensity training or weight lifting will affect your performance since you have not much of fat storage and glucose available at the moment. Which in a long run can lead to decreasing of muscle mass or not gaining more. Doing low intensity training fasted, like walking or cycling is another story.
I am the same I eat any fruit or veg that has starch I get pains. I eat pulses or more than a few ounces of greens and my digestion is all over the show. I eat butter bacon eggs ( cream ) occasionally. I drink cover tea and water and my mood is great. On process ed food I am like the character out of misery Annie Wilkes.😊
Oxalates! For years I was snacking on lots of nuts at lunch and after dinner. At 72 yo I had my first (hopefully last) kidney stone and a week later diverticulitis (not due to oxalates but maybe nuts?). Doh!
I spent years eating organic vegetables, some meat, no bread, no dairy and tons of nuts! I’ve never had a kidney stone. But my dear son who loves cow milk has had kidney stones!
I though i heard him say he was low calorie. He looks like a vegan friend of mine. Not necessarily unhealthy but more skinny frail. Eating fish ... everyone thinks fish is better. Well, the Japanese have low heart attack risk and high stroke. How can that be possible? Fish but limited red meat diet. Mattson looks sarcopenic. I have seen other interviews with this guy.
Actually only the Loma Linda group and one pacific islander group that subsists mainly on tubers get most of their calories from carbs. The others DO eat a lot of meat.
Love this info, very helpful, however I don’t resonate on the evolution front. I believe in the perfect design of a Creator and I believe that this only makes sense more and more as I see the complexities of the body and the body’s capability to heal and repair when treated according to our original design. The evolution of culture, yes. But ultimate evolution of man into something that it once wasn’t, no.
Because you "believe" in a creator doesn't make it true. Religious dogma has no place in scientific discussions. Believe whatever you wish but don't expect or insist that others agree with you.
You can also skip dinner as well. Skipping breakfast is just easy for people in places like America since on average, people just have a quick breakfast/snack and rarely place cultural significance on it.
Something that can help ease that is starting slow as far as going into fasts. 10hrs for a few days, then 12,14, 16etc. Also eating low carb/keto/carnivore helps as well. Most importantly: if you are on any kind of diabetic meds (metformin and others) and/or insulin, PLEASE talk to your Dr about adjusting your medication levels. Changing your diet and lifestyle while still on med levels for your past situation is what tends to cause these kinds of issues.
I think you have to look at the great depression also. People were starving. Then instead of overeating because they were hungry, they rationed through diet! 2000 calories per pay eating 3 meals and 1 snack.
Also true, if a pregnant woman is obese, she is basically marinating her fetus in an insulin resistant environment, which will affect their child's predisposed genes for the rest of their life. Get healthy, then have kids.
Hi Dr Berry What about people who are over weight and have a low blood pressure ? Is it ok to fast if you have a low blood pressure? My normal blood pressure is low and I tried to fast before, it dropped my blood pressure and I start getting heart palpitations. What would you suggest me to do ?
Doesn’t this guy know that the blue zone and lomalinda studies have been totally discredited? Credit for Dr Berry being so gracious and not pointing that out.
I've found I've been grinding my teeth while sleeping since I'd begun fasting. It's this common? Can it be controlled ? Thank you for all your info always!
I have been on a mostly carnivore diet for the past year and haven’t lost any weight but do feel better and think I have managed to maintain lean muscle mass as I approach my 60’s. I am starting to tie in intermittent fasting because I want to lose about 50 lbs to feel even better. The info here is of interest but not a fan of protracted (long) interviews like this. Recommended 10-15 minutes max for future interviews and not a fan of NIH, CDC, FDA, or any other 3 letter agency.
Dr. Ken, I think the answer to your question about fasting vs. reduced calories my be explained in graph on the slide showing Ketone levels. (Which one produces the result) . Just guessing.💁
You say we should eat until we’re comfortably stuffed, but I’m worried 😧 about doing that because people tell me that I’m eating too much food 🥘 therefore I can’t lose weight OR that if everyone in the world did that they would ALL gain weight. Does that make me a glutton? I know gluttony is a sin, but where do you draw the line between being a glutton and eating until you’re comfortably stuffed?
Don't be swayed by people who know N.O.T.H.I.N.G about the 'proper human diet'. You are unique, so stay strong, smile kindly and just thank them for caring but tell them that you're eating the right amount - for you - because you're not eating high calorie carb & sugar loaded junk any more.
If you stick to healthy organic (mostly) animal proteins and fats, it's super hard to overeat, really. We just find this kind of food very tasty but not addictive. Don't eat anything low nutrition and calorie dense or add any sweeteners and you should be fine.
145 Pounds lost on Carnivore over the past year, Thank You Doc Berry your advise saved my life. I do eat a few Cruciferous Vegetables each day but never more than 20 carbs daily. I fast 18 hours every day
I fast 23 hours a day.
145?! 😮😀 That's fantastic! I'm on my first 15 down.
Fantastic - great job!!
It's not carnivore if you're eating a few vegetables
@@fragout45mightyjungle63 close enough 😊
Farmers basically eat twice a day, breakfast after morning chores and supper after evening chores. We never had lunch growing up, just didn't happen and we were thin.
Yes. Never were breakfast people growing up. As a kid I'd have dinner at 6-7pm, go out to hunt early the next morning. Have nothing , not even water, maybe a few sips of dad's coffee to warm up. Get home , dress game, fish then dinner about 6 again. That's a 23ish hour dry fast a time or two a month. We were strong and active kids.
I ate like most Americans eat for over 55 years and was metabolically ill. I wised up and went back to my roots in eating mostly animal products and Intermittent fasting and never felt better.
Well, not all farmers. My mother’s family were farmers as were some of my father in-laws family. They ate breakfast, dinner and supper. Breakfast was a large meal after mornings first chores. It was very early. Dinner was a large meal about or shortly after noon. Supper was the evening meal with left overs from dinner and maybe something else added if need be. Generally it wasn’t quite as large as dinner. All these farmers were my grandparents generation. People born very late 1800s and before 1920. They didn’t really eat lunch foods.
@@wendytravis6427 My father was born in 1905, and while they might eat something light mid-day, leftover bacon etc. they did eat two meals. So interesting how different families do different things, whatever works best for them.
Breakfast is indeed the most important meal of the day as it's the only one I have, at dinner time! So I do indeed take it seriously.
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I have always loved breakfast for dinner, a beautiful omelette. Now, I love poached eggs on my big juicy burger. There is also a meat and egg waffle recipe I can’t wait to try. ❤
Brinner is wonderful
@@Elusive.magick Brinner is a winner!
I'm doing a 20:4 IF eating schedule with 48- 72 hr fasts monthly. I also do ketovore. I've gone from 195 7 months ago to 135 now.
Big congrats!
I'm doing almost the exact same diet and just started 2 months ago and have gone from 240 to 212 in that short time frame. Feel great also.
@@marksmith4627 wtg! 👍
@C Morton. Well done. I do very similar. Also do a weekly 36 hour fast. Feel great. Meat, fat, organ meat, fish ,eggs, salt. That's all you need (+ water !!)
@John Recker mostly carnivore with a few berries, and maybe some riced cauliflower, tomatoes and avocados- so, ketovore. I do have coffee, but no sugar or seed oils. I just saw a thing about upping my protein, so I'm gonna do that 😊
I heard a fitness guy named Charles Poliquin say something that made a lot of sense. He said "you have to earn your carbs." Basically the more physically demanding your life is the more carbs you can get away with eating. For most people's lifestyles today they'd be better off focusing on protein and healthy fats and keep carbs to a minimum except on days where they're way more active.
@@fry1507 yeah I do a physical job too. I don't always eat a lot of carbs. But during the day when I'm working I might some days. Like my girl cooked a pot roast with potatoes and carrots and I had some. Or I might have berries with my lunch. But when I eat in the evenings after work I usually stick to eating something like steak and eggs
The notion of breakfast was commodified by the industrial food complex. In actuality it only refers to the first meal you have after a period of fasting, hence 'break-fast'.
Good point!
I don’t think calorie restriction is the path to health. I think feasting(low carb) and fasting is the way to go combined with an active lifestyle.
FYI, From what I’ve read, in mice/rat studies, their life span increases with calorie restriction.
@@donelmore2540 Some research does look that way but it could be that calorie restriction puts them into ketosis and it is the ketosis that provides the benefit.
@Robin Beers depends how long they are fasting for, if they are doing 18 hours or longer they are reaching autophagy wich is your body recycling bad cells out with the old in with the new.
@@maddog3467 Yes autophagy is important. I do OMAD most days.
Thar was a fantastic and very informative interview, Dr. B. I was so impressed that you didn't try to rebutt the comment about red meat. To me, it demonstrated a high level of respect for your guest. And he in return, wanted some advice about nut consumption! Great respect for the both of you!
He also didn’t refute about the vegetable and nut comment. Very respectful.
@@jeanniewhite9227 Yes, very much
But this leaves some unanswered questions?
Agreed! I had the same thoughts about the red meat and nuts comments. Sure is nice to see respectful, inquisitive scientific discourse!
@@straightupethics For sure, thanks!
Eating 3 meals a day has nothing to do with farming. When you are working hard, you may want a break but you don't want to eat because that makes it difficult to work afterwards. We just waited until supper when we could enjoy a good meal, relax, then sleep.
I think that city slickers were the ones that wanted to eat so often because they had nothing better to do!
My great grandparents were farmers. My mom said the workers ate breakfast and didn't eat again until it was too dark to work or dusk.
Is this the norm? or was mom full of it?
@@itsjustme7487 I grew up in a farming community and this is how they all ate too large high protein high fat breakfast and most days no time or desire for lunch when your sweating you buns off and then an almost identical supper but maybe slightly more carbs at supper
I grew up on a dairy farm. The morning chores would be done, then everyone came in for breakfast. If we were working out in the fields, or if we went to school, we had sandwiches for lunch. Our largest meal of the day was supper. So we had three meals a day.
My hypothesis is that the three-meals-per-day practice was popularized by WOMEN seeking to valorise their contribution to tribal life. I’m a female myself, just so you know.
@KAT I agree. My great grandmother was chunky. After her husband died, she fasted a lot and became very slim. She had eleven children, so that might have had something to do with the chunk.
Also, the women and children ate after the men had had their fill.
Before I even was a quarter of the way through this interview, I immediately looked up whether or not Dr. Mattson was vegan. He is probably healthy, but he doesn’t look it to me. When I was on keto and lost all my weight, I had the same look. I was not eating enough meat. I gained some of the weight back, and now I am doing Carnivore. I have increased my meat and collagen intake, and I am hoping my face will not look quite so emaciated. It may just be a product of being 70 years old but I’m hoping I’ll have a little bit of fat on my face. Oh, well, it will be what it’ll be!
He said he eats lots of fish.
I admire your stoicism. 👍
I had the same thought
Is he 80? His skin is a bit sallow, but it’s nice and tight! Not much sagging or wrinkles. Have a steak, Dr Mattson!
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Emaciated? Dr. Mattson or you? Dr. Mattson looks healthy. If you're in many parts of the USA outside urban areas, you're used to seeing people over age 30 years pervasively sporting 'Chipmunk Cheeks' (slang for the fat-in-the-face you're speaking about). Not uncommon ... but Not required for good health!
I was more than happy to hear how exogenous ketones consumption protects the brain. I drink them daily, bc my dad has dementia and I want to avoid it at all costs. I studied Chinese Medicine 30 years ago and the most important piece of advice from a lecturer was, prevention is better than cure.
People at work were worried about me only having sugar free coffee or drinks on lunches and breaks. But I felt sharper being keto while active.
Most people don't know what bad things they're doing to themselves, thanks to the misinformation that's been spread for the last +/- 100 years.
They never worry when eating a bag of cookies and a soda though.
Same here, my sisters and coworkers are all worried. I feel so good and wish they all would eat this way!
I never let my coworkers know that I am fasting or eating Keto. Just not interested in hearing their uneducated opinions.
This makes so much sense about leptin resistance. I say so because before I embarked on my health improvement journey, I used to think that perhaps my full button in my brain was broken.
Dr B is the best at listening , interjecting his points respectfully and I think gleaning out the Wonderful intellectual nuggets from these giants in their fields. Remember everyone, not one of us is 100% right.
Hippocrates said "Never put new food in your stomach until the old food is gone"
Lots of benefits, not many dangers from IF. Great interview!!
When he first started speaking, I thought he looked very unhealthy. Then he said he eats a lot of vegetables and doesn’t think much of keto! Good points on IF, terrible on diet- he looks sickly.
Spot on. 🙏🏼
Outdated carnivore opinion? 😢 🙈
He does look bad.
I shouldn’t judge anyone by their cover, but yes he does look like he hasn’t seen the sun in years.😢
Knew a guy years ago (1998) that had brain cancer & the doctors told him to get his things in order because he had maybe two months to live. He went and saw a naturopath who put him on a strict Organic lots of greens diet. A few months later, I ran into him, I could not believe how good he looked. His skin glowed, his eyes were clear & he looked so healthy!
The cancer did take his life two years later. But after I saw him, looking so healthy, I started reading about pesticides & the loss of nutrients in the soil. I then went organic with everything, even with meat.
As soon as I saw him I thought he had that vegan look or strict plant based even though he eats fish. There is just a totally different look to meat eaters and plant eaters , the former have fuller faces with good color , the latter look gaunt and saggy. I will never understand the opinion that we didn’t always eat meat … we wiped out animals because we ate so many lol so how it ever came to be that we were supposed to only eat plants and nuts ia crazy to me.
I do love these conversation though, it shows how people so involved in one or two aspects of something are completely divorced from other aspects. We just cannot escape the years of being told certain things and we refuse to believe we can be so wrong on some things.
Definitely true!
Bueno, también debes estar abierto a considerar que NADIE tiene la verdad absoluta. Eso no existe....
Thank you Dr.Berry for that interview. It was very informative. I won't throw my hands up in defeat on my weight loss journey even though I'm down 90 lbs and probably need about that much more to lose. I'm basking in the fine results of my loss so far, and just as I feel, I am a lifelong learner, as loss as I have life in me and the quality has improved, I'll be on a lifelong journey of wellness thanks to you and your tribe. Wishing you and yours continued good health. 👍 🙂
I've pretty much been doing OMAD od 2MAD for 17 months now. I lost 45lbs last year , but not lost anymore for the last 8 months. I still have some to lose, but am happy with the current balance. I don't really feel the need to eat between meals, and I can't see any problems, only benefits.
Thank you! Interesting how even the smartest don't know everything! Keep learning and do what works for you!
You are a very patient and respectful interviewer. I appreciate that about you, Dr. Berry.
Fasting just happened naturally for me when I started keto because I just wasn't hungry. I use to get the shakes if I didn't eat but that doesn't happen anymore at all. I fast 18-22hrs or so. I just eat when I get hungry. I feel so much better when I don't eat 2-3x a day and going carnivore makes me feel even better than keto did. I've learned that 99% of veggies don't agree with me. I have fibromyalgia, RA, chronic fatigue syndrome and Celiac disease. If I eat sugar, dairy, starch or carbs of any kind including veggies, I feel horrid and my body hurts. If I eat only meat, butter, bacon and eggs, I feel normal again!
Fantastic, you made those changes!
@Ian Stuart thank you. I just wish more people would listen. I know so many ppl with the same issues and they won't do anything about it. Too much faith in their dr.
Do you still suffer symptoms of all your chronic illnesses? I have friends/ family members who have these illnesses. But nothing I have said and witnessed have made an impact on them.
@Debbie Goad Yes, if I eat carbs, starchy foods, sugar, dairy and most veggies and spices, my symptoms come back. They make me feel horrid, my body hurts, and the veggies tear up my stomach and make me feel bad. I'm still sick but a lot better than I was. It takes time to heal the gut and get better. I moved to Carnivore at the end of March. I've tried reintroducing foods, but they still bother me. I'm hoping that eventually I can eat some veggies, I miss salads. The gut has everything to do with health, so healing it is important and takes time. We didn't get sick over night, it took yrs so getting better isn't going to happen over night.
@Debbie Goad People have to want to get better. They won't listen to you and do anything until they are sick and tired of being sick and tired or they have a serious health scare. I totally get it. I love food and I love to eat. I use to say I didn't eat to live, I lived to eat. I was addicted to carbs and sugar.
I started keto because I was sick of being fat. I had gained 60lbs and I could no longer work. Keto made me feel better and I lost 27lbs. I just kept learning about it and how foods can cause health issues, including mine. I also take a few supplements. I was able to go back to work in Jan after 15yrs! Keep sharing testimonies and videos. When I share videos like Dr. Berry, I tell ppl to read the comments. There is always amazing testimonials there.
I’m more on the Dr Berry end of the diet spectrum. Lots of fatty red meat and eggs with the yolk. Currently carnivore.
That's what's working for me, and I've never been a big one for cheese, so I'm glad not to bullied into having it on darn near everything.
Fatty fish and seafood too of course. 😋
Excellent info! Thank you both.
This is great information. Thank you both so much. Love you Dr. Berry. You are freaking awesome!
Has anyone noticed Dr Berry looks healthier than the other doctor.
How old is he? I think Dr Eric Berg looks heathier...this dr used to be obese, is that correct?
@@mandyb2000 he's 66 years old. He looks way older than he actually is.
@@vee4410 are you talking about Dr Berry though? That is who I was referring to.
@@mandyb2000 oops sorry, I think I replied to the wrong comment, Dr Berry is 54, he looks great
Awesome interview!💞 I love fasting so much! I have followed a usually 16-18- he then eat mostly one good meat meal!I'm 65 but feel like I'm no more than 40. I'm trying to get to feeling 25! Lol thanks for this!
Nice to meet you Mark. Thx guys for the excellent colab.
I fast once/wk for a 40 hr time period, from Wed night to Fri afternoon. I supplement when breaking the fast. Also exercise 3 days/wk with weights and 2-3 days walking for 1-1.5 hrs.
Have been doing this for 7 weeks, along with cleaning up my diet (less carbs, no sugar, no processed foods).
Have lost 23 lbs in seven weeks. Not necessarily doing any particular diet, yet at times i’ll eat keto meals.
Ran across all of this after getting POTS symptoms post-recovery from long-Covid, as well as having fainting episodes. I went to a few doctors and even the ER when i thought i was having a heart attack.
What i’ve learned is that i was metabolically broken, and that the current medical apparatus completely failed to asses my situation appropriately.
I’m on the lookout now for a doctor outside the system who can help me with my diet, hormones and fasting advice. Most doctors nowadays are not equipped with the info req’d to help 93% of people in the U.S. with their metabolic health. I’m 49 and seriously thinking about how i can get help with diet/fasting/exercise as a holistic approach of healthcare rather than getting into the current system again.
HopeUdidN0TgetThoseArmPokies.
VERY much agree. Good that you're on a better path and hope you'll find the help you're looking for!
Where do you live, what part of the country?
Thanks gents for this excellent talk. Keto + IF (OMAD, 18-6. 48hr etc.) has treated me very well, and due in no small part to you and folks like you. Thank you!
Mr Mattson is seriously the goat. Because HE’S NOT SELLING ANYTHING AND HE’S A SCIENTIST.
Fasting for last 8 years and still alive ❤
Mark reminds me a little of Doc Brown in back to the future. Great info. One issues with the blue zones is healthy user bias. Higher carbs in those zones also preclude the eating of junk food and drive throughs. Even plant based will be healthier than standard American diet. The people eating meat in a drive through with industrial seed oils coating the fries and the milkshakes are equated to “meat eaters” There are no large modern communities of predominately carnivore or clean ketogentic to have a real comparison so of course blue zones will have longer life spans. Of course high fiber plant based will be better than industry lab creations with a side of death.
The McDonald fries used to be cooked in lard. That stopped in 1990.
Mattson is a national treasure, thanks Dr Berry for all the priceless information. You are amazing sir
As for the ending suggesting that if parents smoke or drink, the kids will continue that, very disheartening. My parents both smoked like a chimney and drank like a fish, mom died at 63 with cancer and tumours that she didn't know she had, and dad died at 74, in his living room chair. He was found a few days later by his buddy, and there was an open bottle of whiskey on the side table right beside him. He also had a number of health issues, many that he hid from us that we didn't know about until we cleaned out his house. I, on the other hand, Never got into smoking because of the disgust I had of it growing up with it always in my face, and I don't drink. I am healthy as a horse, on keto, and will live until I'm old and gray, dying peacefully in my sleep at 105 years old like my great grandmother 🥰
I also have a very low BMI and I have to make sure I'm eating enough to maintain my weight. So far it has stayed steady even though I can see that I still lose fat. I've been adding exercise 3 times a week, particularly jumping and jump rope on a hard surface to help with bone density.
Quizás sea más efectivo hacer ejercicio de fuerza para ganar masa muscular 💪
Really enjoyed this! Great information and conversation!
It's almost like we have had this healing mechanism hidden from us.
How don't we all know about this.
That's completely by design.
Changed to. Carnivore diet about three months ago age 70 my 25 year battle with COPD is down to almost nothing the mucus is down at least 80 % and medication down to only when l need it thank you doctor ken
So much respect for Mark Mattson. Really interesting talk.
His color doesn't look healthy to me. I strongly disagree with his opinion regarding the need to eat plants and to avoid red meat.
I thought that as well
Dr. Berry looks healthy, energetic and full of life...this Dr. looks and acts like he needs a nap
Humans come in all colors - but it's our insides that says it all 🎉
Dr. Ken looks like he's on Viagra 😂🎉
A: that could be his camera. Dr berry does RUclips professionally. B: data is more convincing than opinion, you gotta back up your position with data when debating an opinion
I've toyed with these fasting and time restricted eating deals and now I just eat when I feel like it. Why complicate things.
I guess it depends on how often you feel like it!
Well, that explains why my chess game is way better in the morning! I’ll keep fasting breakfast, especially during a chess tournament
I very rarely have breakfast unless someone else is paying 😂 but on the whole I find eating one meal a day works best for me. Just up the liquids.
Yup. And as “bridge drinks” go, I find water works well enough for me. 💧
So I was taking probiotic gummies in the mornings and I didn’t realize they were breaking my fast 😢 now I am more careful with those things!
Anything gummy has artificial flavor and sugar in it.
@@KAT-dg6elUnfortunately yes. I hate swallowing pills but when you read the label on these chewable, they are nothing but supplements inside of candy.
Those are just candy
I'm finding unnecessary sweeteners and starches in so many things even essential vitamins and minerals, or some brands of melatonin.
I’m so proud of you Doctor Berry!
Thank you! I learned something and appreciate it!
I saw a study showing calories restriction helps from weightloss but NOT for longevity....
Despite eating poorly this week (by choice - partner's 50th) I have found (n=1) that carnivore is the best way of eating for me; OMAD, I've lost almost 20kgs. This poor man has not kept up with the debunking of the "blue zones" etc. He looks quite unwell in my opinion - too many carbs and no, vegetable are NOT good for you. Well done Ken for not pandering to his incorrectness with diet, exercise etc. Otherwise great interview with many points of interest for us life long learners.
Dr Berry, Your guest does not look like the Poster Child for Healthy Living, although he is very knowledgeable about this topic
Great guy! I loved the interview!
I’m curious about dry fasting
Dr. Berry, please follow up on plants. I'm confused where you stand on this.
IF - I have IBS (SIBO, candida..- yes I'm working on that) IF helps me to control IBS. Drinking liquids in the morning really helps my gut. When I start eating too early after getting up, and I don't drink enough liquids - I end up with nausea, and IBS symptoms (cramps). IF helps me with my issues.
There is no publish date. I am drowning in a backlog of videos to watch, and no time to watch old videos. The lack of a date stamp means that I cannot, in good conscience, put this in my playlists of immediate tonight or immediate morning. I can only put it in the maybe someday playlist, which will only be watched if I ever get sick and have nothing better to do than watch old, long, maybe someday videos.
I saw really great benefits of weight loss and I felt better when I intermittently fasted. However I still had my digestive issues along with other issues at a young age. Later on I tried carnivore with it and wow I actually had health issues disappearing along with fixing my digestive system and gut issues. It took time to adjust to all meat because my stomach acid levels were low. 18 months later I am still doing it. It’s not a miracle cure though if your suffering from mold issues or bii (breast implants illness) or other things similar to that. Not everything can be fix by what you eat
Fantastic interview …. Thank You both for your time. I got a lot out this video … like they say “Two brains is better than one” and I need all the help I can get! 😅🇦🇺💜
Impressed with Dr. B’s graciousness with this man who clearly needs a ribeye, comes here and says “limit red meat”!😂
You lost me when he said he worked for the NIH. The government is not your friend and does not care about your health.
It was a tipping point for me as well when I heard NIH but sometimes I decide to struggle thru and listen.
Love your channel, thank you so much for all your expertise. Stevie, York, UK
Top marks for clarity and illumination on this issue - 5:2 (as relayed to me by Dr Michael Mosley's 'Eat Fast' diet finally got me to beat the looming middle-age bulge) and ultimately transformed my future. It can be tough, and I stumbled but the effects start to show up in weeks as you land lighter on the scales 😄
Wow. Dr Mattson is a very interesting guy, and he and he has a tremendous amount of knowledge and experience. We may need to work on him to be more accepting of red meat. Since he is currently a professor at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore, he is aces with me. Cheers from Baltimore and thanks for introducing him to me/us.
Dude lost me with citing the Loma Linda group (Seven Day Adventists). ... (sigh...)
what about people with low blood pressure, how do we go about fasting?
Thank you both for this insightful video x
Any ideas or tips on avoiding gallstones when fasting?
I generally eat OMAD but I don't really consider it to be fasting per se. I just eat when I'm hungry and that is usually once a day.
Any research on IF or ketone esters on Huntington's Disease?
Another great interview.
44:00 This might sound harsh, but this is how I make my health judgements. On the left we have a man who eats mostly red meat, and on the right we have a man that avoids red meat. Which one of them looks healthier and stronger?
It's even more recient than the agricultural revolution. We were still only eating twice a day in Roman times.
After he said Eat less a red meat, I knew I will not be buying his books. The need to restrict calories because he is eating other garbage, Supposedly healthy garbage.
Loved this guest!
For people with more muscle mass than average and low body fat, doing fasted high intensity training or weight lifting will affect your performance since you have not much of fat storage and glucose available at the moment. Which in a long run can lead to decreasing of muscle mass or not gaining more. Doing low intensity training fasted, like walking or cycling is another story.
Welp I know intermittent fasting is good for you, but it's tough taking advise from a guy that looks thist unhealthy.... eat a damn steak dude!
I am the same I eat any fruit or veg that has starch I get pains. I eat pulses or more than a few ounces of greens and my digestion is all over the show. I eat butter bacon eggs ( cream ) occasionally. I drink cover tea and water and my mood is great. On process ed food I am like the character out of misery Annie Wilkes.😊
Oxalates! For years I was snacking on lots of nuts at lunch and after dinner. At 72 yo I had my first (hopefully last) kidney stone and a week later diverticulitis (not due to oxalates but maybe nuts?). Doh!
I spent years eating organic vegetables, some meat, no bread, no dairy and tons of nuts!
I’ve never had a kidney stone. But my dear son who loves cow milk has had kidney stones!
@@KAT-dg6el That's odd since I read that dietary calcium will bind with the oxalate to help eliminate it. So, ???
@@dahVEEDBBone depends on the person.
I though i heard him say he was low calorie. He looks like a vegan friend of mine. Not necessarily unhealthy but more skinny frail. Eating fish ... everyone thinks fish is better. Well, the Japanese have low heart attack risk and high stroke. How can that be possible? Fish but limited red meat diet. Mattson looks sarcopenic. I have seen other interviews with this guy.
Actually only the Loma Linda group and one pacific islander group that subsists mainly on tubers get most of their calories from carbs. The others DO eat a lot of meat.
Very interesting. Thank you.
Love this info, very helpful, however I don’t resonate on the evolution front. I believe in the perfect design of a Creator and I believe that this only makes sense more and more as I see the complexities of the body and the body’s capability to heal and repair when treated according to our original design. The evolution of culture, yes. But ultimate evolution of man into something that it once wasn’t, no.
Absolutely
You're really opening Pandoras Box here!
Because you "believe" in a creator doesn't make it true. Religious dogma has no place in scientific discussions. Believe whatever you wish but don't expect or insist that others agree with you.
@terised I don't believe they were insisting anything. More like just giving their belief!
I guess everything boils down to skip breakfast. Do intermittent fasting and then break your fast with nutrition dense meats.
You can also skip dinner as well. Skipping breakfast is just easy for people in places like America since on average, people just have a quick breakfast/snack and rarely place cultural significance on it.
I never catch Dr Berry talk about the challenges of fasting as a t2 diabetic. I crash every fasting bloodwork not to mention trying to do OMAD.
Something that can help ease that is starting slow as far as going into fasts. 10hrs for a few days, then 12,14, 16etc. Also eating low carb/keto/carnivore helps as well.
Most importantly: if you are on any kind of diabetic meds (metformin and others) and/or insulin, PLEASE talk to your Dr about adjusting your medication levels. Changing your diet and lifestyle while still on med levels for your past situation is what tends to cause these kinds of issues.
It's very disappointing to hear the guest talking frequently about calories. As Dr Berry says counting calories is dumb.
I think you have to look at the great depression also. People were starving. Then instead of overeating because they were hungry, they rationed through diet! 2000 calories per pay eating 3 meals and 1 snack.
Pancakes were traditional Eaten only once a year. And it wasn't for breakfast. It was the tuesday before lent.
Also true, if a pregnant woman is obese, she is basically marinating her fetus in an insulin resistant environment, which will affect their child's predisposed genes for the rest of their life. Get healthy, then have kids.
I saw in one video that she used Kiwi fruit. I would love to try this.
Hi Dr Berry What about people who are over weight and have a low blood pressure ? Is it ok to fast if you have a low blood pressure? My normal blood pressure is low and I tried to fast before, it dropped my blood pressure and I start getting heart palpitations. What would you suggest me to do ?
Doesn’t this guy know that the blue zone and lomalinda studies have been totally discredited? Credit for Dr Berry being so gracious and not pointing that out.
Thank you.
I've found I've been grinding my teeth while sleeping since I'd begun fasting. It's this common? Can it be controlled ? Thank you for all your info always!
I catch myself grinding my teeth to music when awake. My dentist isn't happy...
Thanks!!
Why’d you let him get away with the blue zone BS?
thank u
I have been on a mostly carnivore diet for the past year and haven’t lost any weight but do feel better and think I have managed to maintain lean muscle mass as I approach my 60’s. I am starting to tie in intermittent fasting because I want to lose about 50 lbs to feel even better. The info here is of interest but not a fan of protracted (long) interviews like this. Recommended 10-15 minutes max for future interviews and not a fan of NIH, CDC, FDA, or any other 3 letter agency.
You can break this video up into whatever bite-size nuggets you like. It does not have to be consumed all in one sitting.
Dr. Ken, I think the answer to your question about fasting vs. reduced calories my be explained in graph on the slide showing Ketone levels. (Which one produces the result) . Just guessing.💁
Lost 25 lbs in 4 months with TRE & walking everyday (8,000 - 10,000 steps). Not much change in diet.
great video
You say we should eat until we’re comfortably stuffed, but I’m worried 😧 about doing that because people tell me that I’m eating too much food 🥘 therefore I can’t lose weight OR that if everyone in the world did that they would ALL gain weight. Does that make me a glutton? I know gluttony is a sin, but where do you draw the line between being a glutton and eating until you’re comfortably stuffed?
Don't be swayed by people who know N.O.T.H.I.N.G about the 'proper human diet'. You are unique, so stay strong, smile kindly and just thank them for caring but tell them that you're eating the right amount - for you - because you're not eating high calorie carb & sugar loaded junk any more.
Hmm. My problem is that I have a burning desire to eat even if I have zero hunger.
If you stick to healthy organic (mostly) animal proteins and fats, it's super hard to overeat, really. We just find this kind of food very tasty but not addictive. Don't eat anything low nutrition and calorie dense or add any sweeteners and you should be fine.