I own a Uberti made 72 Open Top revolver imported by Cimarron, it is chambered in .38 special, or .38Colt. Even though it has a 5.5 inch barrel it is very accurate. I used it in the shooting part of my concealed, carry class. I believe mine has the Army grips.
I'm glad you got some decent looking boxes with your Bud's Gun Shop purchase. I ordered two different rifles from Bud's worth over $3000.00 for the two and the boxes both looked like they had been slept on. Dirty, crushed, torn & filthy! I don't know what the deal was. I meant for one rifle to be a gift. I wrote to Henry and they sent me a new box for free. They even reprinted the label for me. I no longer trade with Bud's.
Nothing against the shorter barrel six shooters at all, however the 7 1/2 inch Army is a commanding looking firearm. I finally ordered a 7th cavalry version after wanting one for 50 years. Cant wait to open the box when that baby comes in!
At much as I love the 1873, the 1872 open top just speaks to me. I’m currently in the process of converting my 1851 with a Kirst conversion. I love old civil war and western firearms.
There's a video on RUclips that shows how Uberti does the color case hardening of the frames, and it involves super heating the steel and quenching it in a chemical concoction that cannot recall.
That 1873 SAA Clone does indeed have a safety, but it's very subtle. It's activated by pushing the base pin in to the second notch. Great solution to the US Import requirement for a safety mechanism on all imported firearms.
The Army or Late Model Open Tops had the larger Army grips, and usually iron trigger guards & backstraps that were often silver plated, which tended to wear off on surviving examples. The Army Models were chambered for the .44 Henry rimfire cartridge for compatibility with the Henry rifle; this being a very popular & abundant cartridge at that time.
Sofar I have an 1872 opentop, two 1873 Cattleman ll.(One is the Thunderer). I also have an 1847 Walker black powder revolver. Also buying another Cattleman in 22lr.
I went to the Cimarron website and found that pretty much everything was sold out. Most gun websites are sold out and my local gun shops don't have any single action revolvers that aren't Rough Riders or Wranglers. That's it. This is getting frustrating.
@@linguisticman I was able to buy a Taylors 1873 7th Cavalry just last month in 45 Colt. Ammo, at $1.25 per round, will lead me to the poor house. So I placed an order for a black ceracoat Wrangler 22 LR in 7.5" barrel which will be much easier on the wallet.
"Hell on Wheels" portrayed a time frame from 1865-1869. The 72 Open Top didn't exist yet. What you saw were 1851 Colt Navy revolvers in .36 Cal., and cartridge fed 1851 Richards-Mason conversions. Along with Griswolds, 1860 Army models, 1861 Colt Navy models, and 1858 Remingtons. Some converted, some still percussion.
Wish my 44 Colt Open Top’s color case finish was as vivid and colorful as yours! Mine is nice but much more of a gray, without the vivid blues and browns.
Good review, enjoyed it. One note for accuracy, you should never remove the wedge screw from the barrel. It is intended to hold the barrel wedge to the barrel while it is removed from the frame. Keeps one from loosing it in the field. One of Colonel Colts more brilliant thoughts.
I know that this comment is over a year old, but I wanted to say that this is not the case for these new Uberti reproductions. The screw on the Uberti repros is for wedge retention and the screw head will shear if you don't turn it out of the way before whacking on the wedge. The screw head has a flat on one side to facilitate this.
Does the cylinder index with the clicks and line up with the ejector rod or is like a current Blackhawk where the ejector does not line up with the clicks?
I am so into the Italian sa clones in percussion and centerfire. I am at 5 right now with 3 percussion and 2 1873 clones... I would like to get an open top at this point or even a 1851 conversion model in 38 Colt/38 spl I live in California so everything including guns is a nightmare tho...
Ok, I am just getting into the Cimarron line, one caught my eye, last time I was in my local gun store,, it was one I didn't want to put down, but I wanted to learn more before I even went back to look at it again, When you Buy a Cimarron, how do you know which your getting, a Uberti, or a Pietta ?
One of the easiest ways is that Cimarron Piettas, with very few exceptions, have model numbers that start with "PP". As far as I know, Cimarron only offers Piettas in 1873 Colt SAA clones, usually calling them "Frontier", "Pistolero", Thunderball", "El Malo"...they have a USV Artillery and a 7th Cav. model from Pietta, too. There may be others. I have owned a LOT of Cimarron Pietta models, and I have owned Cimarron Ubertis. (I still own 4 Cimarron Ubertis, but they are all different pattern guns) I prefer Cimarron Piettas over any Uberti SAA model that has the new Cattleman II safety system in it.
These are never going to be made as DA revolvers, they're not designed for it. Buy a colt 1892 or a New Service revolver if you so dearly want a DA revolver that kind of looks like something a cowboy would carry.
Hi, could you help me? I am about to buy an 1873 5.5, 357/38 and I would like to know briefly which one I should buy / which one is better, among them Cimarron, Traditions, Pietta and Uberti, which one would have more quality and would not give me any problems. Thank you, I await the reply.
@@DuckHunterX make sure you get the model were you have to push the catch forward to release. I have the one that the release is pulled back, so it can and has broke open by the friction of putting it in the holster. Other than that, and the price, its great.
Not really sure but you might do a little more research on your 1873. I think the reason for the knurled screw is the safety system. Try cocking the hammer loosen the knurled screw and pushing the pin to the next notch then tighten the knurled screw. Now try to lower the hammer and see if it will go completely in or stops before hitting the casing.
Thank you for your condescending comment. I have done plenty of research on the 1873. All of my reviews are based on research and experience. I am also fully aware of the extra groove in the cylinder base pin, not present in original Colt production models, that allow the pin to go back further in the frame so as to prevent the hammer from striking the primer. When the screw is tightened in this position the revolver is locked in the "safe" position and will not fire. This is a new safety feature incorporated by the Italian manufacturers. If you have documentation that this is the reason for the knurled cylinder base pin screw, please provide it. Otherwise you are just guessing.
Can use smokeless powder or black powder. It is proofed for standard SAMMI spec's pressure cartridges. Black powder pressures are alot lower pressure than modern smokeless powders.
the serial number one gun isnt numbers matching though remember colt went under and sold off the already made parts the buyer bought those parts and just put them together with no regard for making them numbers matching and sold the guns
@some guy I have always wondered that too. Me...I would try not to go much over 400 ft.-lbs. muzzle energy on either one. A 200 gr. bullet at 1000 fps is about as powerful as I would go, or maybe a 240 gr. at 850-900 fps. I AM NO EXPERT but I do tend to play things safe.
You will need to get the special and have it reamed. I have an Uberti 44-40 Deluxe Short Rifle in 44-40 and looks like I am going to either get a Peacemaker, or deal with 2 calibers.
There was something more powerful before these models. The Walker Colts and Dragoons were the same 44/45 round ball but packed a lot more powder behind them. They were also huge and heavy.
Ask any SASS member and the firingline.com will tell you the correct pronunciation: July 22, 2010, 02:06 PM My family's Italian - grew up hearing a lot of it. I believe the correct pronunciations are "pee-YET-ah" and "oo-BARE-tee".
That's an Open Top Navy. And also called the Early Model, because of the smaller Navy grips, brass trigger guard & backstrap. This revolver would have been chambered for a .38 round, not the .44 Henry rimfire.
The Colt open top is soooo' good looking. One of the nicest looking guns I've had seen.
I own a Uberti made 72 Open Top revolver imported by Cimarron, it is chambered in .38 special, or .38Colt. Even though it has a 5.5 inch barrel it is very accurate. I used it in the shooting part of my concealed, carry class. I believe mine has the Army grips.
I'm glad you got some decent looking boxes with your Bud's Gun Shop purchase. I ordered two different rifles from Bud's worth over $3000.00 for the two and the boxes both looked like they had been slept on. Dirty, crushed, torn & filthy! I don't know what the deal was. I meant for one rifle to be a gift. I wrote to Henry and they sent me a new box for free. They even reprinted the label for me. I no longer trade with Bud's.
Nothing against the shorter barrel six shooters at all, however the 7 1/2 inch Army is a commanding looking firearm. I finally ordered a 7th cavalry version after wanting one for 50 years. Cant wait to open the box when that baby comes in!
you’re gonna love it . wish i got the 7th cavalry version.
I know you will love that gun. They are beautiful.
At much as I love the 1873, the 1872 open top just speaks to me. I’m currently in the process of converting my 1851 with a Kirst conversion. I love old civil war and western firearms.
Colt Navy and SAA a true work of art 💖
I honestly prefer the look of the open tops. Just something elegant about them, even more so than the 73.
I just bought my second Open Top, a twin of my Cimarron Navy 1872 .44 special with 5.5" barrel. I loved the first one now getting another for CAS.
Absolutely beautiful revolvers!
Great verbal and visual comparison😎👍
PACEMAKER I always wanted a saa PACEMAKER. Its Peacemaker pal.Great video though very informative
Beat me to it😆😆😆
I got all the way through with this review and later realized I said Pacemaker instead of Peacemaker lol. Oh well, a human has to human sometimes.
Great pair of hand guns. I thoroughly enjoyed your Presentation my Friend.
There's a video on RUclips that shows how Uberti does the color case hardening of the frames, and it involves super heating the steel and quenching it in a chemical concoction that cannot recall.
Like that Mexican loop holster. where can I get that?
That 1873 SAA Clone does indeed have a safety, but it's very subtle. It's activated by pushing the base pin in to the second notch. Great solution to the US Import requirement for a safety mechanism on all imported firearms.
The Army or Late Model Open Tops had the larger Army grips, and usually iron trigger guards & backstraps that were often silver plated, which tended to wear off on surviving examples. The Army Models were chambered for the .44 Henry rimfire cartridge for compatibility with the Henry rifle; this being a very popular & abundant cartridge at that time.
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Sofar I have an 1872 opentop, two 1873 Cattleman ll.(One is the Thunderer). I also have an 1847 Walker black powder revolver. Also buying another Cattleman in 22lr.
I went to the Cimarron website and found that pretty much everything was sold out. Most gun websites are sold out and my local gun shops don't have any single action revolvers that aren't Rough Riders or Wranglers. That's it. This is getting frustrating.
@KlingonCaptain Hey, they're everywhere now 8/5/2023. Websites, local gun stores, you name it. I see that you posted this at least a year ago.
@linguisticman Yeah, I wound up buying an Uberti, and it's pretty nice. Thanks for the update just the same. 😊
@@linguisticman I was able to buy a Taylors 1873 7th Cavalry just last month in 45 Colt. Ammo, at $1.25 per round, will lead me to the poor house.
So I placed an order for a black ceracoat Wrangler 22 LR in 7.5" barrel which will be much easier on the wallet.
A good four or five years ago I saw an episode on Hell on Wheels cable TV series way back then and I fell in love with the 1872 Colt open top
"Hell on Wheels" portrayed a time frame from 1865-1869. The 72 Open Top didn't exist yet. What you saw were 1851 Colt Navy revolvers in .36 Cal., and cartridge fed 1851 Richards-Mason conversions. Along with Griswolds, 1860 Army models, 1861 Colt Navy models, and 1858 Remingtons. Some converted, some still percussion.
The portral in Hell on Wheels was a cap n bal confederate Griswold and Gunnison.
STUNNING BEAUTIFUL, PREFECT PAIR OF THE FINEST FIREARMS EVER MADE A REVOLUTIONARY TIME IN HISTORY
Nice work on the review. It was quite engaging.😊👍
Wish my 44 Colt Open Top’s color case finish was as vivid and colorful as yours! Mine is nice but much more of a gray, without the vivid blues and browns.
Good review, enjoyed it. One note for accuracy, you should never remove the wedge screw from the barrel. It is intended to hold the barrel wedge to the barrel while it is removed from the frame. Keeps one from loosing it in the field. One of Colonel Colts more brilliant thoughts.
I know that this comment is over a year old, but I wanted to say that this is not the case for these new Uberti reproductions. The screw on the Uberti repros is for wedge retention and the screw head will shear if you don't turn it out of the way before whacking on the wedge. The screw head has a flat on one side to facilitate this.
Great choice, I'm getting a 1872 open top as soon as they are back in stock. Also, there were ~6000 produced by colt.
Does the cylinder index with the clicks and line up with the ejector rod or is like a current Blackhawk where the ejector does not line up with the clicks?
I just bot an 1872 Open Top Army with larger grips. Does the 1873 SAA have the same sized grips. I have big hands
I am so into the Italian sa clones in percussion and centerfire. I am at 5 right now with 3 percussion and 2 1873 clones... I would like to get an open top at this point or even a 1851 conversion model in 38 Colt/38 spl I live in California so everything including guns is a nightmare tho...
Is there a good holster that would fit the 1872 7.5" with a retention strap?
Great review. One thing I noticed is some poor fit/finish of the loading gate on the Open Top. Think they could've done better...
Mine is excellent.
There'is a 22 12 open top ?
Ok, I am just getting into the Cimarron line, one caught my eye, last time I was in my local gun store,, it was one I didn't want to put down, but I wanted to learn more before I even went back to look at it again, When you Buy a Cimarron, how do you know which your getting, a Uberti, or a Pietta ?
One of the easiest ways is that Cimarron Piettas, with very few exceptions, have model numbers that start with "PP". As far as I know, Cimarron only offers Piettas in 1873 Colt SAA clones, usually calling them "Frontier", "Pistolero", Thunderball", "El Malo"...they have a USV Artillery and a 7th Cav. model from Pietta, too. There may be others.
I have owned a LOT of Cimarron Pietta models, and I have owned Cimarron Ubertis. (I still own 4 Cimarron Ubertis, but they are all different pattern guns) I prefer Cimarron Piettas over any Uberti SAA model that has the new Cattleman II safety system in it.
When these are manufactured in DOUBLE-action.............
I'll become interested in purchasing.
You must have bumped your head
These are never going to be made as DA revolvers, they're not designed for it. Buy a colt 1892 or a New Service revolver if you so dearly want a DA revolver that kind of looks like something a cowboy would carry.
Great review!
Will that model shoot 45L colt?
Hi, could you help me?
I am about to buy an 1873 5.5, 357/38 and I would like to know briefly which one I should buy / which one is better, among them Cimarron, Traditions, Pietta and Uberti, which one would have more quality and would not give me any problems. Thank you, I await the reply.
Very cool video, well presented. Subbed.
Can you load 6 shots safely in both?
I have 1858 new army and schofield....that open top will be my next
how you liking that schofield? i want one so bad
@@DuckHunterX make sure you get the model were you have to push the catch forward to release. I have the one that the release is pulled back, so it can and has broke open by the friction of putting it in the holster. Other than that, and the price, its great.
Not really sure but you might do a little more research on your 1873. I think the reason for the knurled screw is the safety system. Try cocking the hammer loosen the knurled screw and pushing the pin to the next notch then tighten the knurled screw. Now try to lower the hammer and see if it will go completely in or stops before hitting the casing.
Thank you for your condescending comment. I have done plenty of research on the 1873. All of my reviews are based on research and experience. I am also fully aware of the extra groove in the cylinder base pin, not present in original Colt production models, that allow the pin to go back further in the frame so as to prevent the hammer from striking the primer. When the screw is tightened in this position the revolver is locked in the "safe" position and will not fire. This is a new safety feature incorporated by the Italian manufacturers. If you have documentation that this is the reason for the knurled cylinder base pin screw, please provide it. Otherwise you are just guessing.
Is the SAA black powder
Can use smokeless powder or black powder. It is proofed for standard SAMMI spec's pressure cartridges.
Black powder pressures are alot lower pressure than modern smokeless powders.
Hi. Could you say that a Revolver Taurus 82 is of a higher or lower quality than an 1873 cimarron ?.
Taurus isn’t anywhere near the class and craftsmanship of a Cimarron Colt clone.
the serial number one gun isnt numbers matching though remember colt went under and sold off the already made parts the buyer bought those parts and just put them together with no regard for making them numbers matching and sold the guns
I need to buy an open top strip, the military blue, and heat blue the barrel and cylinder and screws
What's the hottest loading they can handle?
@some guy I have always wondered that too. Me...I would try not to go much over 400 ft.-lbs. muzzle energy on either one. A 200 gr. bullet at 1000 fps is about as powerful as I would go, or maybe a 240 gr. at 850-900 fps. I AM NO EXPERT but I do tend to play things safe.
If uberti made a 4 click SAA with the the new hammer, would people stop complaining?
Never
Both are beautiful.
Does anyone offer the 72 Open Top in 44-40? Or do I get a 44 Special and have it reamed?
You will need to get the special and have it reamed. I have an Uberti 44-40 Deluxe Short Rifle in 44-40 and looks like I am going to either get a Peacemaker, or deal with 2 calibers.
I think you meant to day Peace Maker..??
There was something more powerful before these models. The Walker Colts and Dragoons were the same 44/45 round ball but packed a lot more powder behind them. They were also huge and heavy.
Who is "he"?
el army es muy bonito , pero la compuerta de carga no me convence, pues no esta bien alineada, el peacemaker es precioso. saludos
The Pace Maker ? 😂😂😂😂
I like mine
Peacemaker not Pacemaker
Ask any SASS member and the firingline.com will tell you the correct pronunciation: July 22, 2010, 02:06 PM
My family's Italian - grew up hearing a lot of it.
I believe the correct pronunciations are "pee-YET-ah" and "oo-BARE-tee".
Not Pacemaker, but Peacemaker. ;-)
That's an Open Top Navy. And also called the Early Model, because of the smaller Navy grips, brass trigger guard & backstrap. This revolver would have been chambered for a .38 round, not the .44 Henry rimfire.
not to be an ass, but the only chambering was the 44 henry.
if it was a cartridge conversion it would be .38
@@HircineDaWolf yep 👍
12:12 begins SAA
Meh. I'm here for the Open Top.
Total gun porn , I’m drooling
73 for me
Both are beautiful guns but that open top is especially gorgeous!