I was getting ready to say the same thing when I read your post. Of all the places they could party and why pick the cemetery? No excuse for vandalizing the place.
I hope you don't let bad comments stop you. I enjoy your comments and explanations greatly. I like how you give explanation on little wild flowers and such. Keep it up thank you ,Irene.
A coin left on a headstone or at the grave site is meant as a message to the deceased soldier's family that someone else has visited the grave to pay respect. Leaving a penny at the grave means simply that you visited. A nickel indicates that you and the deceased trained at boot camp together, while a dime means you served with him in some capacity. By leaving a quarter at the grave, you are telling the family that you were with the soldier when he was killed.
I don’t know if this will help any, but another RUclipsr does videos of cemeteries. He uses a flashlight tilted sideways on the engravings and sometimes he can see the names and dates better. Enjoying all your videos. You do an excellent job.
What a cool exploration with an interesting story! Sad most of the people buried in cemetery were children or adults under age of 50. Thanks for taking us along!
Great vid Wanderer, but those random piles of stones are just that.....stones picked from what were eventually to be fields for farming. The folks in Pandemonium were poor, and spent their existence farming and raising their children. Mr Henry who owned land in "nettle bottom" where the remnants of the steam tannery is, also was a teacher, and the community used the church for the school as well. The rock walls were dividing lines used for obvious reasons. This is another very interesting area to explore! Thanks for the tour!!
I own property on Laurel Run and have visited the Pioneer Cemetery many times. I am curious about the history of Sheaffer's Valley. Can you recommend a resource?
8:09 I have that vary same green sachet. It’s an old Avon product from the 80’s. They also made a deep red one that went with it. My sister had the red one. My room was a pale green as a child and my sisters was pink. The sachets were a gift from our grandparents for our bedrooms.
Behind the cemetery, there are many many piles of rocks, I did some research and found out that they are clearing piles. When the farmers cleared areas to plant they piled rocks to get them out of the way.
You're absolutely correct. I used to help my grandfather clear rocks out of his fields every spring (in Northern Michigan). Back busting labor! But, it provided me a priceless work ethic and gave me a perspective on life that has stuck with me ever since.
PA is rich in history I enjoy taking hikes with you sad shame some one had to vandalize in a cemetery. Interesting story about the the black girl. Sadly things of that sort still happen. Great video I enjoyed watching.
Use a large flashlight to shine from the side of the tombstone and you can read the letters and numbers better. Some people shake baby powder down the front of the stone for the same effect. (Some people think it's wrong to use baby powder but you can easily wash it off with water.)
why the coins left on the stones ~~~ the ferryman Charon the Ferryman is a reason for coins on gravestones. By far the most popular reason I have found for leaving pennies or other coins on headstones is based in Greek Mythology. According to legend, Charon, the ferryman of Hades, requires payment of one coin to ferry your loved ones soul across the River Styx that separates the living from the dead. Historically, the coins were placed in the mouths of the deceased, or according to some sources, over their eyes. People who can’t pay the fee are said to be doomed to wander the shores of the river for 100 years. This sounds like reason enough to throw down a penny, just in case.
I doubt it had this meaning on graves that old, but there are meanings to the coins for people that have been in the military. bigfrog104.com/meanings-of-coins-left-on-graves/
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nobody deserves to be forgotten. I wish I had lived back then. Maybe I could have helped some of them. It is criminal that so many young children lost their lives in the 1800s
I don't understand destroying a grave site, especially an historical one. People probably should stay off of drugs or stop getting drunk or whatever their problem is. Such beautiful woods. Why would that black girl be buried outside of the cemetery especially after being killed like that?
You keep saying there is no birth date, but if you read the stone instead of looking for numbers, it is there. the first one says aged 9 years and 15 days. The next looks like 3 years and 3 days. You seem to have caught on though.
Another place I was around but didn't really know/ appreciate when Iwas in school at Carson Long in New Bloomfield also West Perry school had the best baseball team in the state for while in the 80's there j.v could beat varsity teams and Susquehanna Valley I believe had more kids going to pro sports than any other
Can I make a suggestion please when you put a camera down on the grave hold it there one minute I'm more I was reading them. I don't know why you couldn't that I was reading. Many times that did not have the day of birth but they told how old persons was. For old stones they're very readable.
The large timbers are probably not from an old barn. The end would be notched and holes for the wooden pegs. Not railroad ties. Maybe dropped there to build a bridge or a large building
I found that if you take regular shaving cream, smear it on the front of the stone, take a squeege and wipe it off, the letters become perfectly legible. The cream is just soap, so you can keep a spray bottle of water with you and clean it off or just leave it. It will disappear.
The stone will tell you the age the yr , mo and da. You have to calculate. I think there is a site on internet where you can enter info to find out when they were born.
Could you maybe try reading the name with the naked eye and then resume to showing stone? Not trying to be disrespectful, It seems you can see it differently. I'm sorry, please don't delete me. I really enjoy your videos
Lol...you did the same thing I did. I went and got permission to some metal detecting back there. I went through the cemetary and saw the piles of rocks. Then up above was a long stone lined area. I called up the Rangers and he said the piles are just piles of stones. The place up top was an original road. He said the town was down below near the creek. Made more sense to me because all I found were handfuls of shotgun shells. No square nails or anything to signify a town. www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=392267
Pa’s a very old place. Some of these settlements were before the townships/boroughs were created. Eventually they pick up and move somewhere else for one reason or another or die off. Promise of better opportunity and resources elsewhere, closer to water etc..
Leaving small gifts at a grave isn't necessarily weird -- perhaps people do it for the same reason you like to walk among those that have gone before.:-)
I just can’t watch anymore of this video. Why bother exploring if you put value judgements on it? Cliff, I’m so disappointed. Why is anything different ‘weird’? interesting ? Yes. What a marvelous diversity in the ways people show love, respect, and honor for the dead.
Things set around a grave can make grass trimming difficult. Mad dad used to work in a cemetery and the stuff people left there was a huge hindrance to those trying to keep the grass in mowed and stones edged.
Don’t discount ghost stories, I live in a haunted house. The couple that built our home died here, and they are still around. We smell toast most mornings, when no one’s cooking. At other times we smell sulfur matches and cigarette smoke, but neither us smoke. I’ve also recorded a man’s voice in one of our bedrooms.
not trying to be rude it's a good informative video, but do you have really bad eyesight? its just to me I can read everything on these tombstones. And as others have said just reading the words on the grave and very simple math and you get the birth year.
There is nothing lower in this world then to vandalize someone's final resting place. There is no excuse in the world for it...
I agree nothing lower than someone who vandalized someone else’s property especially a cemetery.
I was getting ready to say the same thing when I read your post. Of all the places they could party and why pick the cemetery? No excuse for vandalizing the place.
That's why he's not gonna do it, dude!
Sure, if you believe you're nothing but a meat suit on a skeleton frame, I guess that's your final resting place.
Amen I agree
I hope you don't let bad comments stop you. I enjoy your comments and explanations greatly. I like how you give explanation on little wild flowers and such. Keep it up thank you ,Irene.
I agree. People can be so mean. Sad.
A coin left on a headstone or at the grave site is meant as a message to the deceased soldier's family that someone else has visited the grave to pay respect. Leaving a penny at the grave means simply that you visited. A nickel indicates that you and the deceased trained at boot camp together, while a dime means you served with him in some capacity. By leaving a quarter at the grave, you are telling the family that you were with the soldier when he was killed.
That's interesting.
The Soap Hive, Thanks for sharing. Love that idea.
The Soap Hive THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
Ok but coins are also left at infants's graves. They obviously weren't soldiers. So I think it's just an acknowledgement of visitation
@@Rogue1717 i was thinkin the same
So much history in PA. Love your channel.
I don’t know if this will help any, but another RUclipsr does videos of cemeteries. He uses a flashlight tilted sideways on the engravings and sometimes he can see the names and dates better.
Enjoying all your videos. You do an excellent job.
What a cool exploration with an interesting story! Sad most of the people buried in cemetery were children or adults under age of 50. Thanks for taking us along!
So beautiful! Thank you for sharing!
Beautiful country.. It's a shame that people destroy the old cemeteries.. Great Vlog! Thanks!
I would still rather live there in the forest than in the cities or suburbs.
Cool cemetery tour, Thanks.
Great vid Wanderer, but those random piles of stones are just that.....stones picked from what were eventually to be fields for farming. The folks in Pandemonium were poor, and spent their existence farming and raising their children. Mr Henry who owned land in "nettle bottom" where the remnants of the steam tannery is, also was a teacher, and the community used the church for the school as well. The rock walls were dividing lines used for obvious reasons. This is another very interesting area to explore! Thanks for the tour!!
I own property on Laurel Run and have visited the Pioneer Cemetery many times. I am curious about the history of Sheaffer's Valley. Can you recommend a resource?
Thank you for your videos I greatly enjoy traveling with you to these interesting sites
Thank you so much for sharing your informative video.
Love your videos
the old stones didn't list the birth date if you look they state the age of those that passed in yrs and days
Yeah, then you have to do the maths. Have you noticed how modern children's graves don't have this?
8:09 I have that vary same green sachet. It’s an old Avon product from the 80’s. They also made a deep red one that went with it. My sister had the red one. My room was a pale green as a child and my sisters was pink. The sachets were a gift from our grandparents for our bedrooms.
Behind the cemetery, there are many many piles of rocks, I did some research and found out that they are clearing piles. When the farmers cleared areas to plant they piled rocks to get them out of the way.
You're absolutely correct. I used to help my grandfather clear rocks out of his fields every spring (in Northern Michigan). Back busting labor! But, it provided me a priceless work ethic and gave me a perspective on life that has stuck with me ever since.
PA is rich in history I enjoy taking hikes with you sad shame some one had to vandalize in a cemetery. Interesting story about the the black girl. Sadly things of that sort still happen. Great video I enjoyed watching.
Use a large flashlight to shine from the side of the tombstone and you can read the letters and numbers better. Some people shake baby powder down the front of the stone for the same effect. (Some people think it's wrong to use baby powder but you can easily wash it off with water.)
I sense some civic pride in this cemetery vs. some of the cemeteries you visit, thanks for sharing your travels, it's well appreciated
Hi, new sub to your channel. Enjoying the videos I have viewed. I have heard the story of the little girl being shot in the tree.
enjoyed your video...Western Canada
pretty good, eh
why the coins left on the stones ~~~ the ferryman
Charon the Ferryman is a reason for coins on gravestones.
By far the most popular reason I have found for leaving pennies or other coins on headstones is based in Greek Mythology.
According to legend, Charon, the ferryman of Hades, requires payment of one coin to ferry your loved ones soul across the River Styx that separates the living from the dead. Historically, the coins were placed in the mouths of the deceased, or according to some sources, over their eyes.
People who can’t pay the fee are said to be doomed to wander the shores of the river for 100 years. This sounds like reason enough to throw down a penny, just in case.
I doubt it had this meaning on graves that old, but there are meanings to the coins for people that have been in the military. bigfrog104.com/meanings-of-coins-left-on-graves/
nobody deserves to be forgotten. I wish I had lived back then. Maybe I could have helped some of them. It is criminal that so many young children lost their lives in the 1800s
I don't understand destroying a grave site, especially an historical one. People probably should stay off of drugs or stop getting drunk or whatever their problem is. Such beautiful woods. Why would that black girl be buried outside of the cemetery especially after being killed like that?
You keep saying there is no birth date, but if you read the stone instead of looking for numbers, it is there. the first one says aged 9 years and 15 days. The next looks like 3 years and 3 days. You seem to have caught on though.
What about the years?? Just states their ages
math.
@@20greeneyes20 You have the date of their death and their exact age on that day, so you just subtract their age from the date of death.
To the graves that got vandalised they need to get repaired. The graves are to be respected and not to be vandalised. Good video.
have seen biscuit flour spread on unreadable stones. seems to work well.
You have to be very careful with putting ANYTHING on stones. Most seemingly harmless things like chalk can speed up deterioration
Another place I was around but didn't really know/ appreciate when Iwas in school at Carson Long in New Bloomfield also West Perry school had the best baseball team in the state for while in the 80's there j.v could beat varsity teams and Susquehanna Valley I believe had more kids going to pro sports than any other
Heard of it but did not know it actually existed!
We have alot of those older thin stones It. Grey or White they snap.
Not always Vandals
Can I make a suggestion please when you put a camera down on the grave hold it there one minute I'm more I was reading them. I don't know why you couldn't that I was reading. Many times that did not have the day of birth but they told how old persons was. For old stones they're very readable.
Or you can just pause the video.
Is it legal to metal detect these sites?
Thanks!
The large timbers are probably not from an old barn. The end would be notched and holes for the wooden pegs. Not railroad ties. Maybe dropped there to build a bridge or a large building
I found that if you take regular shaving cream, smear it on the front of the stone, take a squeege and wipe it off, the letters become perfectly legible. The cream is just soap, so you can keep a spray bottle of water with you and clean it off or just leave it. It will disappear.
Do you ever spend the night in those area or are you just a one day adventurer? Do you ever do ant metal detecting around the buildings.
I been to some that are rocks with the name and dates on them
Usually when you come along a pile of rocks in the woods, it's where someone, or something was buried. Buildings would have a foundation.
Deirdre Pasko not necessarily so. On either account.
NH & Maine have 100's of partial Stone walls, Property lines laid in stone, clearing piles by fields the list goes on.
What is the name and location of the mountain that you use at the beginning of your videos?
cool
Wouldn't it be cool if you could see somebody building one of those rock walls?
The children's tombstones are so sad.
17:45 probably the base for a large Fireplace or oven
The stone will tell you the age the yr , mo and da. You have to calculate. I think there is a site on internet where you can enter info to find out when they were born.
Could you maybe try reading the name with the naked eye and then resume to showing stone? Not trying to be disrespectful, It seems you can see it differently. I'm sorry, please don't delete me. I really enjoy your videos
The story of the young girl shot and killed is so sad.
i dont think calling her a negro girl was neccesary.
Lol...you did the same thing I did. I went and got permission to some metal detecting back there. I went through the cemetary and saw the piles of rocks. Then up above was a long stone lined area. I called up the Rangers and he said the piles are just piles of stones. The place up top was an original road. He said the town was down below near the creek. Made more sense to me because all I found were handfuls of shotgun shells. No square nails or anything to signify a town.
www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=392267
how do rocks move???? a foundation wouldn't move! thx jeff
As the Crow flies, I live only 5 miles away...
I think they cleared the rocks out of the cemetery area...
I wonder what their favorite video game was during this time.
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I'm really curious about why Pennsylvania specifically has so many of these abandoned communities.
Pa’s a very old place. Some of these settlements were before the townships/boroughs were created. Eventually they pick up and move somewhere else for one reason or another or die off. Promise of better opportunity and resources elsewhere, closer to water etc..
The tombstone says Daniel Neidigh.
You can figure out when the people were born because some of the markers show their age at death.
At 65...this is depressing.😝
Put up a trail cam to catch the vandals
it says when they died and then it has their age
3:38 BITNER died 1889 at 9 years old would mean her birth year was 1880.
Leaving small gifts at a grave isn't necessarily weird -- perhaps people do it for the same reason you like to walk among those that have gone before.:-)
Why you bring this video so old now is a small cemeteries and very very old so why lm seeing this now 4 year's later
I found no one knows what exactly wiped out Pandemonium, the guess was Smallpox
No Illness occurred to wipe them out, they just all slowly moved out.
google why people leave rocks money or articles at tombstones.....
Usually when people visit a military grave ..penny-visited /pay respect, nickel,trained with, dime served with, quarter deployed(combat) with
I just can’t watch anymore of this video. Why bother exploring if you put value judgements on it? Cliff, I’m so disappointed. Why is anything different ‘weird’? interesting ? Yes. What a marvelous diversity in the ways people show love, respect, and honor for the dead.
Things set around a grave can make grass trimming difficult. Mad dad used to work in a cemetery and the stuff people left there was a huge hindrance to those trying to keep the grass in mowed and stones edged.
subtract their age from there death date
Don’t discount ghost stories, I live in a haunted house. The couple that built our home died here, and they are still around. We smell toast most mornings, when no one’s cooking. At other times we smell sulfur matches and cigarette smoke, but neither us smoke. I’ve also recorded a man’s voice in one of our bedrooms.
not trying to be rude it's a good informative video, but do you have really bad eyesight? its just to me I can read everything on these tombstones. And as others have said just reading the words on the grave and very simple math and you get the birth year.
Matt Waters hartsdale pet cemetery
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