The many mistakes of M. Night Shyamalan
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- On this episode of Weird Movies With Mark, I talk about Old (2021) as well as several of M. Night Shyamalan's other films!
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"My dad doesn't like Coral." This was just a reference to his father's hatred for the kid from The Walking Dead.
My boss at works' name is Coral, I used to always pretend to be Lincoln when I called out to her
Do you know why theres no gambling i africa?
Because there are too many cheetas, too many cheetas, Coral!
Giuseppe seems to be the clear winner in this whole thing. He really dodged a bullet there.
Lmao true
An even bigger twist Giuseppe becomes a major world traveling Dj and producer known by his full name. Giuseppe Ottaviani.
The funniest thing about Giuseppe is how Anglos pronounce it, why do you say it like there's an "I" at the end? It's GiuseppE, not GiuseppI, LOL
Except being named Giuseppe
@@joeshittheragman6252 Yep, can you imagine being called Giuseppe and living in an English speaking country? I'd gonna lose my mind (or change my name, probably).
The biggest disappointment of Old was that Night’s cameo wasn’t the boy aging into him😤
That's would of been epic
Bruhh thats fr would at least making the movie a bit better
Lmao holy shit that seems so obvious in hindsight lol why didn't they do that
@@jayceneal5273 right? He looks like and even has a similar inflection in his voice to all the actors who played Trent… maybe he didn’t want to portray a main character after the Lady in the Water fiasco.
@@freakyfriesday I was thinking that. I couldn't blame him either. But it would have worked so well here
I'm absolutely obsessed with the Last Airbender. It fails on every single level. I've watched it over and over. Would love to see a behind the scenes documentary. I really hope the cast and crew get an opportunity to share what happened from their POV.
I convinced my kids to watch it. We are all big Last Airbender fans, and they were curious to see how bad it could be, but they didn't want to admit to their friends that they saw it. But we watched it and it was ... okay. I mean, we felt it sucked as a Last Airbender movie on multiple levels, but if you had never heard of Last Airbender and you watched it you would think it was a fairly run of the mill fantasy film. It's definitely not great, but people hate it mostly because it's a terrible adaptation. Compared to many other Shyamalan films it's far from his worst.
Took my then teenage daughter to the midnight premier as we were both huge fans of the series. Other than seeing other moviegoers dressed as the characters, that was the most disappointing movie experience I’ve ever had.
even the original voice actors and voice director of ATLA thought it was horrible. They talked about it here for a bit ruclips.net/video/lt2FjWV3i7k/видео.html
Props to you for watching it more than once. I’m still mad at M. Night for that one and will fight him on sight if I ever meet him.
I've tried multiple times to watch Airbender and can never get past the first 20 min or so. With that said big props to any one who actually sat through the entirety of that torture
Well, I do not understand the hate for the Movie "Old". I sat alone in a darkened Cinema and watched 'Old' for what felt like 9 hours. Image my delight to note that, upon leaving the Cinema, only 108 Minutes had gone by. This means that I gained over 7 hours! If I watch this Movie once a day for 10 years, Two things will happen: A) I will gain over 1,000 Hours!!! and B) I will be utterly insane.
What a bright and optimistic way of looking at that cinematic waste of time and money. 😃
Sorry but the acting was unreal bad. The idea of the movie was good, but the rest was c-acting...how the doctor acted angry just lol or when the black woman at the start had her attack, and everyone acted like its a completly normal thing. So much scenes which just were extremely bad acted.
@@chaTzon Someone didn't read the comment before replying.
You are already utterly insane
@@chaTzon I could not agree with you more! I did like the premise, but this was never developed. The Movie is not enjoyable, even as a Group-Watch with plenty of Booze & Nibbles.
M. Night does this thing where he has what he thinks is a cool, high concept premise (and often he's right) and then immediately starts phoning it in. All through the writing and directing process, he clearly decides again and again that it doesn't matter whether the plot makes any sense or the characters' actions or motivations are logical or believable, as long as we get the weird premise and the BIG TWIST! at the end. He's under the impression that he's such a gifted filmmaker that he doesn't need to worry about minutiae like logic, plausibility, characterization, or character arcs because his underlying concept & visual style are so strong that the audience will be too blown away to care. It's like he heard that story about Steven Spielberg telling Peter Benchley not to worry about the scuba tank blowing up at the end of JAWS because the audience will be so engaged by then that they'll buy any ending they're given and decided that he's so brilliant he can make whole movies that way.
And he'd be right actually, if he let characters care about things and be more than quirks...and even then that could work...but that requires acting
But for some reason he seems to think having actors say the lines with any kind of emotion is too much, except for maybe one token scene of emotion [which is jarring], so everyone sounds bored, and he wants characters to mug straight into the camera too so we their faces extremely close up.
I mean you could make a chase scene or fireworks boring that way.
I think before The Lady in the Water, and with Split/Glass [Glass is bad for other reasons], the acting was a bit more disciplined and fitting and could at times be entertaining. Adrien Brody made The Village for me, Mel Gibson and everyone but the boy in Signs did a very good job....even if the twist was weird and the logic was questionable.
But something happened once he did that weird swimming pool movie with Paul Giamatti, something happened, and even when he pretty much used someone else's story and tried adapting [The Last Airbender and After Earth, his two worst], that type of acting direction stuck.
He likely thinks all these illogical points will be perceived as surreal, and that they will be explained as holding hidden truths.
The biggest twist that M. Night could pull on me at this point, would be making a half-decent movie...
RIGHT?! That’d be the ultimate shocking twist. ;)
@@TheCrazyHedgehogLady yes
I dont understand how this guy is still geting the money to do this movies...
Give me a break, most of his movies are pretty good. His problem is he started his career with an absolute masterpiece. He needs to concentrate now on films of a serious nature that don’t rely on a plot twist; he has already done that to perfection
@@lozu8947 Which of these scream "perfection" to you? Was it "The Happening" which was so bad, he had to apparently change the genre afterwards to excuse that trainwreck. Was it "After Earth" which was both critically and financially a total disaster. Or was it "The Last Airbender" which is a special feat to f* it up like he did because of the splendid original and its huge fanbase. Nobody says you can't like his shit-films, but please don't kid yourself.
while coming up with the worst plot twist I could think of, I told my friends in the theater as a joke "what if the monsters in The Village weren't real and they were living in modern day? lmao." when it actually happened I face palmed so hard.
My husband calls things like that all the time!
The biggest problem I had with this movie was that, just like in The Village (no spoilers for either movie), there's this great big info-dump at the end to "explain" everything, and it makes sense when you first hear it, but as you think about it more afterwards it raises even more questions/plot holes.
M. Night needs to realize that a "twist" and an "info-dump" are not the same thing.
(Spoilers)yeah like Adrian Brody supposedly wearing the monster costume in the Village. How come his posture and handicapped movements were suddenly not apparent when they were so exaggerated in every other scene?
At my age I'm happy if I can take an information dump in the morning, and not have to explain myself to anybody the rest of the day.
Exposition/info dumps are the laziest kind of writing. I mean it's one thing not to be creative enough to come up with something decent but it's another thing to just kind of hopefully throw enough stuff at people they don't question it. I mean you always have to make sure to throw a bunch of jargon and tech talk in there and stuff. Hope people just tune out and just go uhh huh uhh huh cool okay.
@@kevinr.3542 Exactly. =(
@@markl2322 LOL!
I feel like it’s not even a mystery if you don’t give the audience legitimate clues to the solution. Sixth Sense did have some of that. But now it’s just pulling out something without at least letting us try and deduce them ourselves as the audience
That’s the key to a good mystery and a potentially great twist. Those kind of stories are incredibly difficult to write because you have to give the audience enough info to where the twist at the end is impactful and makes sense but you also have to keep events mysterious enough where the solution isn’t immediately obvious.
Well said. That's exactly his last movies' problem.
Mid-Size Sedan had some good songs, sure... but let's all be honest here... his career was just never the same after he broke it off with Four Door Hatchback.
Yeah, but his collab with 4-Wheel-Drive Minivan was aight... (-:
@@fisheyenomiko It was more of a Crossover than a collab 😂
@@fisheyenomiko I haven't heard of this collab, I'll have to pick-up that album sometime.
@@MongooseTacticool this is the perfect comments
so the man that big called himself a Mid-Sized Sedan.. can't imagine the 18-Wheeler will look like... 😅
M. Night thinks his Last Airbender movie is good so clearly he's insane
Clinically insane.
Arts subjective.
One man's Monet is one man's "fuzzy painting crap"
@@cannibalbunnygirlArt is not, actually, subjective.
@@nicwelch yes indeed, it is
You know. It is clear how egotistical M. Night truly is. He is pretty dang good at cinematography, Old is shot very well, all of his movies look great, He can make a pretty interesting concept for a movie as well. But if he would just hire a dang screenplay writer who can handle the dialogue/pacing and the actors, I think he could make A+ stuff here. But he keeps thinking he needs to do it all.
He's one of those artists who unfortunately seems to have let his earliest successes define the rest of his career. As you said, his cinematography and concepts are amazing typically, but he's literally just the Brand Effect of Hollywood, in that his name alone is the sales pitch, but we expect an overpriced and shoddy product in our earned cynicism.
Except that he doesn't do the cinematography, the directors-of-cinematography do that. M Night doesn't have a single cinematography credit to his name. ¬_¬ He writes, produces, directs, and "acts". If he hired a writer, then he'd be completely useless, especially since his "twists" are his only defining trait. 🤦
Same with Rob Zombie
@@user-vn7ce5ig1z
He can't even be subtle about his appearances in his movies anymore.
He used to do a pretty good job of imitating Hitchcock where he'd just make brief appearances. Hell in OLD he's a prominent figure in the plot itself. I mean it's fine it's his movie but his ego is on full display here for sure.
I sort of disagree the way the camera is too close to the actors' faces is very annoying.
This guy (M. Night) has completely wrecked the twist ending for other filmmakers. It's a trick (like jump scares) that you can't use a lot, so you have to make it count, and Shayamalan has blown it for people who make thrillers or mysteries.
Not all his movies had twists. Reveals or plot twist is not a twist. 3 different things
All it needed was a messianic figure turning up who promises to lead them through the coral, and you'd have a Neil Breen movie.
Would've improved this movie 300%, to be fair.
yeah, and he then he goes on for 5 minutes about corrupt programmable digital altered tribes, lol
The issue I have with the twist discussion is that the Twilight Zone did this successfully for multiple episodes. I appreciate the twist ending, it's has to be good though, and M. Night just can't always deliver.
At least he tried
O’Henry did great twist endings but his stories were mostly short and wasted nothing in the plots.
Mid Size Sedan going "dang" is how I feel about every Shyamalan "twist" post-Unbreakable. Like, wow... so... what else
That same apathetic expression too.
I guess people do not know the difference between a reveal and a twist 🙄😅
@Danny Anderson it's only hot garbage if you were attached to the cartoon. I had no idea about the cartoon and enjoyed the film, I had some issues with some of the acting but overall it was a great family film
@@alucard2010 it was a average movie at it's very best, giving a lot of leeway for the horrible dialogue and acting, and a bad movie every other time. Knowing about the cartoon or not
@@hiddenleafdrip3869 your opinion of course 🙄
He always has to have this twist or reveal and be deep and mysterious. Sometimes I just want to watch a movie.
Nothing can be more pretentious than Lady In The Water, which turns into an origin story of M.Night playing the most important writer in the world who’s writing will save the world. And he also kills an always wrong movie critic to boot too in the movie
Yeah that movie was one strange bird.
I came into it not knowing who Ding Dong was and thought it was an okay dumb movie with good music. The effort he puts into constructing the films are intetesting. They built an actual functiong apartment building for the film and handed it over to the city.
And the plant/wolf thing was not cgi, it was an animatronic that could walk on its own.
@@grapeshot A very boring bird.
It had such potential and in the right hands could have been a good fantasy movie.
What's really stupid thing about that critic character is this:
Prior to Lady in the Water, Shyamalan made The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs and The Village. He had THREE commercial and critical successes and ONE failure. So that jab at his critics is just him being salty than they didn't liked ONE MOVIE of his.
I think it's pretty clear that M. Night sold his soul to the crossroads demon who only gave him a 3-movie deal.
"Midsize Sedan" is a perfect rapper name, you have to admit. "Ford Pinto" would also have worked if he had really FIERY and EXPLOSIVE lyrics. ;)
Brokedown Hoopty.
Yeah like 15 years ago
It’s not tho
How about "Da Gaz Caan"? Or, "Dawwn Theee Mustang"?
Nah, but it doesnt surprise me that someone from Canada doesnt know Hip Hop.
At the start of The Village, when they discuss the "forbidden box", I thought it was a television. So from that moment on, the movie was set in present day for me, with the villagers simply having shunned all technology and went back to basics. So yeah, the twist ending was kind of blown for me.
Interesting point. I had a similar experience watching Unbreakable.
A man obsessed with the mythology of comic books, and eager to identify real life superheroes. That's excatly what a supervillain would do--be on the lookout for the one person who can stop him. On top of that, he keeps emphasising being the opposite of the the superhero. To me, that's giving the twist away early, and also bad writing.
Whoa, that makes sense
What blew it for me was the elders kept talking about the thing they're not suppose to talk about. The only reason you keep talking about something you're not suppose to talk about is to keep perpetuating the fear of something going, and to keep anyone from forgetting about that thing. The moment you stop talking about it is the moment people forget and stop fearing it. So right away I realized it was the elders who created the monsters and perpetuated this fear of the forest to keep the young people from going into the forest.
I asked for "Old" movie review and got a 20 minutes Shyamalan rant! That's above and beyond anything I could've asked for! TNX Mark❤
Is it rent-controlled or does the rent go up? 🤔
“Wait until she learns about Amazon!”
Still laughing at your timing and delivery of that line!! 😂🤣🤣😂
To describe Shyamalan's career I'll quote Shakespeare: "The evil that men do lives after them. The good is oft interred with their bones."
So I'm sure he's hoping more people will remember him for the best work he's done and not the horrible crap that he's turned out over the last 15 years. I mean the dichotomy of his work is off the charts. How many people can say they've done an academy award-winning film a stream of terrible movies and even ruined a franchise with avatar The last Airbender.
Mark Antony in Julius Caesar.
@@JohnS-il1dr Julius Caesar Act 3 Scene 2
The Simpsons predicted a bad, over-hyped horror movie called The Happening in a Halloween episode from like 1995. They called it the "The Crappening" lol.
Hilarious and genuinely insightful regarding M. Night's filmography.
To be fair: he never maked a boring Movie in his carreer XD
@@DasKame After Earth was boring as hell
@@raymondwatt9773 Somebody watched that to tell ?!?!?!
M. Night Shyamalan is exactly what happened if Neil Breen gets himself Hollywood level budget.
Nailed it!!!
Very true.
“That’s Mid-Sized Sedan!”
I hysterically laughed at that for about 2 mins straight.
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂 I've come to laugh here
My sister and mom saw this in theaters and said they did too.
I genuinely thought it was funny, which I'm going to give him since it's the only time M. Night has ever made me laugh on purpose.
That's a Wayans brothers 90s spoof name
@@robotsaysbeebooboop 😄💯
Poor dude made "The Sixth Sense" then became the lord of one trick ponies.
M. Night Shyamalan is pretty much a parody of himself now.
He still make one good movie every 20 years. The sixth sense, and Split was good. Signs is good for a laugh (like for hearing lines like " Lionel Pritchard and the Wolfington Brothers are back"-always wanted to know more about those guys)
The Visit was good as well.
@@ananasbanana now that's funny
The Sixth Sense didn’t surprise me at all.. Bruce Willis was shot right in the heart in the beginning of the movie, with nobody coming to help, and now his wife won’t talk to him and the kid says he sees dead people in the trailer.
I'd never forgiven Shyamalan for The Last Airbender, to be honest. So, so, so bad...
I never even knew about Old, really. I guess that's a good thing.
@Joseph Hitler The last Airbender went far beyond "not getting it right". The worst child actors imaginable, terrible cringe worthy dialogue and laughable action scenes. I realize condensing an entire season of anime into a 1 hour and 43 minute movie is very difficult to do, but Shyamalan didn't get anything else right either.
You really brought up a good point on the twist ending expectations and the lack of investment and trust in the very story we are being shown.
You worded it perfectly in a way I wish someone would show him.
What a great RUclipsr, Mark is seriously underrated. I showed my parents your RUclips channel and they laughed their asses off. They were also in shock that you didn’t have more subscribers. Keep it up man. You always make me laugh.
I’ve shown him to a few friends and they love him. He’s going to go far.
It's because he had a very erratic uploading pattern. He's been getting better, but he still goes quality over quantity.
Wholesome
I thought, he's not underrated. He's got like a million subscribers! He doesn't! I just checked and he has 180,000ish. How is that possible? He's terrific.
The Happenings explanation was hilarious, that trees and house plants were on the warpath. I couldn’t believe that M. Night thought that explanation was gonna be taken seriously.
And the Village’s twist wasn’t much better.
I’m all for imaginative and creative movies, with “out there twists,” but really, killer trees?
The delivery of the hair and nails explanation, sounds exactly how I imagine M Night's buddy offering his own suggestion
Another one of his movies where the ending makes you squirm in your seat with visceral disgust as you wait for the credits to roll.
The characters on that magical beach should of taken a hint of what was going on when Midsized Sedan turned into a gas electric hybrid, then electrical and then became a cold fusion powered flying car.
😂
The baby thing was the most inconsistent aspect of the entire movie I feel. The reason why is because the film establishes that time is a danger as an internal factor and NOT an external one. More specifically, how time itself impacts the physical aspects of someone's body. For instance, if you take into consideration what happened to the baby (it dying due to lack of attention) and apply this to everybody else, then it would mean that the group should have begun experiencing large gaps in time between their own conversations.
For them it should have felt like HOURS or days between talks but it didn't. In fact for them things seems to be progressing at a pretty average rate. Nobody on the beach was ever losing their sense of time throughout this whole thing and therefore this should have been the case with the baby too even though it was aging. What would have been a better argument would be to say that babies are more fragile and because of this have LESS resistance to things than someone older would. So a better excuse would be to say that the baby starved to death because it couldn't consume food fast enough due to its metabolism burning too fast. If you remember the kids eating a lot of food or being hungry at one point could have been used as a basis for this argument. But even on that note, it makes me think about another problem with this film....
Why didn't they ALL die within the first half hour? If your aging that fast then your body would naturally need to consume food faster too in order to maintain itself. If making it to the end of the day was like YEARS passing by then this would also be like them going years without eating. You cant argue that someone seizures speed up but their NEED to consume food doesn't. It makes no sense because in this case the issue is always gonna be the changes in biology.
The movie seemed like it really couldn't make up its mind about which set of rules it wanted to follow.
In the comic the baby is the last one alive. It ends with her physically an adult and building a sandcastle, her families corpses besides her. Genuinely disturbing.
You say that like a joke, but that’s actually how we found out our parents were divorcing - went to the Toronto EX (think six flags), and there was this bizarre energy to the day, then we get home and my dads just like “Well, time to head out to a hotel, me and your mom are getting separated”.
Haha so that was fun! Turns out he’s been cheating on her constantly and was pretty verbally abusive. Anyways, point is haha yup, that shit happens!
Wow. I was gonna say "wel, the Ex always has a weird energy anyway", but yikes, I'm so sorry your dad put your family through that.
Hahaha ya the X has some super weird carny vibes despite it being a pretty big production haha.
Ah hey it was like 20 years ago, was pretty shitty at the time, but think it was for the best in the end. Moms much happier that’s for sure!
Just thought it was funny like “Who would plan a cool family outing just to announce divorce immediately after”
“Well, this is awkward buuuut”
Thanks for the kind words though :)
Dang man, my sympathies to ya. On the plus side, M Night Shyamalan made a film (cough) movie that you might be mildly indifferent to.
the leafs suck
wow! oh man...
"Now, a lot of people associate M. Night Shyamalan with a twist ending."
I associate M. Night Shamalamadingdong with potentially good movies that have that "tries too hard" failure :)
Because dingdong is so original 🤡
@@alucard2010 because originality was the topic... oh wait....
@@captaindishman9126 yeap original movies not based on remakes or other trends
@@alucard2010 dingdong
It’s almost like he’s an incompetent writer/director who got lucky with a couple movies
😆
Or that people need to stop putting him on a pedestal. I can say a someone who works in the art industry not every piece an artist does is a masterpiece. It’s rare to achieve constant greatness.
yup. same with Jordan Peele really
Completely agree with this. Incompetent and a giant Ego.
Absolutely. If you go back and watch sixth sense it’s incredibly overrated. Even for the time something like se7en was a much more ambitious flick.
My disillusion with the twists started with :'The Sixth Sense' when Bruce Willis is shot. My immediate thought was 'No one could survive that!' And every scene after that just confirmed it. And that, as far as I am concerned, is his best movie.
exactly. even as a kid i didnt even understand why it was a twist...i was like, oh this kid sees dead ppl. this guy is dead. this tracks
Mid Size Sedan is alright, but I've always liked Sporty Hatchback better.
😂😂😂
Iv had this movie "Old" sitting in my downloads folder for about a week now, im so glad you uploaded this, you saved me much needless pain and anguish.
The biggest mystery is why companies keep hiring him to make movies.
Biggest tax write off? Plenty of baaaaaaad movies are made for such purpose. Better tax write off then paying income tax. Id assume with his movies, they can load tons of cash to later write it off to keep other projects and income intact.
NAMESAKE
His movies generally make money. Even Old is at about $90m vs an $18m budget right now.
A combination of name recognition and ever since The Visit, he's kept his budgets relatively low, thereby minimizing the risks to the studio.
@@john_blues
Not gonna lie that's legitimately impressive. I'm actually glad he's not trying to do big budget movies anymore. If only that translated into a better product which sadly it isn't.
If you take away the suspension from the “suspension of disbelief “ , you’re left with the disbelief.
Two humans held a super hero down in a puddle of water …a super hero….that could tangle with “The Beast”
I love the twist in The Last Airbender where you find out he never watched the show
Mid sized sedan might be the best name I have ever heard in a movie
Even after all these years I'm still not sure how I feel about him as a director. What I can't deny: I still get a little bit excited when I hear he has a new movie.
Mark. There’s a movie called “Party Camp” made in the mid 80s that is pure 80s bad movie teen sex comedy goodness. A friend of mine starred in it and I always give him crap. Please please please review it. Love your videos!
Can we get this man to the top of the comments, please?
Who’s the friend?
I second this!! Also I need to see that movie now. 80s cheese FTMFW! 👍🏻
We did it, boys! Mark's hearted it. The review is guaranteed.
+Future Dog
Was your friend Jimmy Riviera, by chance? 😁
By the way, I've added this to my IMDb Watchlist, because you've got me intrigued!
I feel ya man, his own hubris onscreen really seems to plague alot of his flicks. I honestly felt pretty betrayed as the credits rolled on the Village, and I was off the Shammalamma train! Though my 13yr old is definitely gonna be shown the 1st three! (And Split 😄)
So, Mark ... what you are saying is ... M. Night should focus more on an actual good story and characters instead of plot twists all the time?
I mean, I agree but ... I don't think he knows how to do that anymore
Exactly!!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
OMG the Breen emoji🤣🤣🤣
Duh! And he never knew how, he just got lucky a couple of times in his prime
Breen emojis?! I'm missing out in life 😭
Even his plot twist so stupid all the time.
The Village was also a turning point for me. I knew the final twist halfway in the movie: I had seen it in an Outer Limits episode.
Anyone with knowledge of Twilight Zone who saw the trailer new the twist.
Yeah Resort Rip Van Winkle. I think people calling him the next Alfred Hitchcock went to his head. I like some of his movies but I never was what you would call a fan.
I actually really enjoyed the campiness of the Happening, as well as the reveal at the end of the Village. I was in my very early 20’s when the best M. Night movies started coming around and because of that, I was much less critical of movies than I am now at 45. Signs and the Sixth Sense are still 2 of my favorite movies, period. Speaking of the Sixth Sense, I can recall the reaction of the crowd in the movie theater like it happened yesterday. But check this out...I just dug up my ticket stubs of all the movies I went to see in 1999 and this is how busy (and fucking blown away) I was that summer:
The Matrix
Blair Witch Project
Fight Club
Office Space
American Beauty
Magnolia
The Green Mile
Man on the Moon
Holy shit!!! What a lineup! And there are even at least 10 to 15 more bangers that came out in ‘99 that I didn’t see in theaters.
I've got to be honest I couldn't even get into Split all that much. Behind all the marketing, all the hype, when you get down to it, if you take away McAvoy's performance, it largely feels like the other Shyamalan movies that turned his career into a parody. The Shyamalan tropes that people make fun of are still there, the awkward self-insert cameo, the equally awkward dialogue, actors starring vacantly right into the camera, a script that thinks it's much deeper than it actually is.
The only difference is McAvoy is able to give a performance in a Shyamalan without embarrassing himself and that alone should've gotten McAvoy an Oscar nomination because many otherwise good actors have not been able to say the same. Guys like Joaquin Phoenix, Dev Petel, Paul Giamatti, Mark Wahlberg, Will Smith will have memes made about them forever because for all of M. NIght's faults perhaps his biggest one is somewhere along the way he lost the ability to get his actors to behave like humans on screen.
Indeed. He's not even the only guy who has his actors feel a little less emotive than others, but combining that with the dumbness of his scripts tend to make it feel more apparent how off it was compared to other directors like, say, David Lynch who can have a better sense of consistency with that.
Also, nice to know I wasn't feeling alone in those feelings on Split. Entirely saved by McAvoy having a little more life in his performance, while everyone else and everything else felt no different than his usual direction, especially with that abuse subplot blunting it's impact because it's still as awkwardly acted as everything else in the film, so it's hard to tell how serious it's supposed to be taken.
“Narfs” were one of his best trolls. The whole Korean lady plot in lady in the water is just gold!! 😂😂😂
To me, M Night was always "Okay" at directing. He's not the worst director I've seen, he's just pretty mediocre at best.
Bro did you not get the memo it's cool to hate him
He's the worst writer/director that actually gets budgets. Worse directors and writers are stuff like Asylum and bargain bin movies.
@@kennethbryant5819 He self finances his movies.
@@howiegruwitz3173 Exactly. It is laugable how people nitpick about his recent movies while rating other pop corn flicks higher ! It is now cool to hate him.
There’s an episode of “The IT Crowd” where before Roy watches a movie someone tells him there’s a twist at the end.
Roy’s was like “Oh, now I know there's a twist. I'm gonna spend the whole movie trying to guess what the twist is.”
Moss says to forget there's a twist. And Roy says “how can you forget there's a twist?”
The one thing I hated while watching Old was all the characters incessantly narrating their actions. That reminded me of his "American audiences have different sensibilities" comment, which everybody knew he meant he thought Murricans were dumb and didn't understand his movies, so he made the characters CONSTANTLY mention their actions to help the dumb-dumb audience to understand it better.
I'm SEAsian with English as a 2nd language and even I think he (and this movie's characters) are dumb. Sucks because the premise of the movie was interesting tho
What is a "SEAsian"?
An Asian who lives by or at the sea? :-)
@@subraxas South East I'm guessing
That's cause M Night thinks he is way smarter than the audience. Even though people are trained at this point to expect his nonsense.
It's because he feels he's smarter than anyone else so he has to explain it for others to get it. He's just pretentious
*Fun Facts*
*M. Night Shyamalan was born August 6th 1970*
*He was born in India but raised in Penn Valley, Pennsylvania.*
*The cumulative gross of all his films so far exceeds 3.3 billion globally* (10/2021)
This was a great review and I loved how Mark was pretty much able to cover M. Night's entire body of work in such a compact, yet detailed frame of time. Ironically, the only Shyamalan product I truly enjoyed in recent years wasn't directed by him, but based on one of his stories - it was "Devil" which, at only 80 minutes, was very satisfying on all levels, from the claustrophobic atmosphere, to the characterizations... and right down to the final reveal which, for once, didn't disappoint. I didn't really like "The SIxth Sense" (sorry if that's blasphemy) and I am the only person I know who actually enjoyed "The Happening" - a lot. I also really liked "Signs" up until the idiotic ending. I agree with Mark about "Unbreakable", which I think is his most balanced and successful film to date. I loathed "The Village" and couldn't even finish "Lady in the Water". "The Visit" gave me a headache with that hand-held camera so I wasn't able to enjoy much. You gotta hand it to him, though, he has an undeniable passion for his work AND isn't going to let any bad reviews or poor box-office convince him that he's really not all that. I actually find an endearing similarity between him and Ed Wood in that department!
Here's a twist ending: M.Night makes a decent movie. Then retires. What a twist!
I never felt like he was passionate at all. Ive just always felt like he thought he was brilliant and could do no wrong. I mean, he is the chosen one in his own movie.
M. Night is a Hit or Miss; Loved the Signs and Most of the 6th Sense Triology But his Most Iconic Style Like Lady in the Water and The Village, Which should be his Specialty, Fell Flat to his Potential.
This sums up a lot of what I have always thought about his movies. It's like people see a scary trailer and have goldfish memory re the other shit movies this guy has put out.
I do remember his crap I just also remember that I like some of his movies as well so I have a 50% chance of liking it
How can you hate The Happening? It's one of the best comedies out there!
Rufus Sewell and Gael Garcia Bernal are 2 of my favorite actors. Even they aren't enough for me to spend the time watching the whole movie.
when i watch that movie old and i saw the actor he is familiar when i google rufus sewell he is one of the main lead role on the series the man in the high castle its a good series about parallel universe
My friends and I figured out the Village too. We guessed the ending before she even went into the woods.
The one with the Devil in the elevator is amazing. The toast landing butter or jam up. It was amazing. Right up there with the Happening. God I love that movie. It’s my guilty pleasure movie. It’s so bad it’s awesome.
20 seconds in and I'm laughing my ass off. I love your deadpan approach, Mark. Oh, and I always say the TO! part along ahahaha
I say the TO part too!!
I actually knew going in that the twist of The Village was going to be that the events take place in modern times because watching promotional interviews with the actors before release, they just kept going on and on about the specific year that the movie was set in, and I found it odd that they would consistently refer to the specific year each time the subject was brought up. No surprises in the theater that opening night.
I will say, even though I don't like most of his movies I can respect him more than someone like Michael Bay. At the very least I feel like M Night Shyamalan is trying to make good movies unlike Michael Bay who only cares about money.
Valid point.
To be fair it would be hard for Michael Bay to do a twist explosion. Even an implosion on screen is basically an explosion.
Idk of Micheal Bay cares about money as much as he cares about painting his specific brand of cinema on bigger and bigger canvases. He’ll make a movie as big as a studio will let him
I don't know anyone seen that trailer for ambulance?! Social commentary smothered with explosions, lens flares and ridiculous amount of action. I'm sure it wasn't intentional but that trailer made me laugh.
@@malcolmhodnett8874 Bay doesn't have a brand! Just bunch of special effects!
When I spoke to M. Night, I gave him one advice: in your next movie, apply 2 things: misdirection and a double-twist
"His name was Guiseppe Giorgio.... but everybody called him... Giorgio."
Shyamalan is what you get when you give Neil Breen a blockbuster budget.
Ask me what it meeeeeans! Ask me what it meeeeeans!
M. Knight is the prime example of why you shouldnt huff your farts
My Granny actually guessed the ending to 6th Sense 5 minutes in. She wrote it down and showed me after the movie. But she's also seen a bajillion movies in her thousands of years on this planet, so she's got that edge.
Fingernails and hair grow from the living part at their base, not the dead part. Just a FYI for M Night if he’s checking out his mentions. (You know he does . . .)
Also: No love for Signs? A perfectly decent film up to the twist reveal. And his cameo.
Signs has to have the worst twist out of all his films
@@magicjohnson3121 Have to disagree: Lady In The Water is the worst, closely followed by The Happening.
I was 13 when the village came out. 20 minutes in I figured it out and never watched a m. Knight movie till the happening then not again till split. Poor guy he’s obviously talented.
I've been waiting for thiss
It bugged me so bad that the 2 children found their way back to the hotel.
Mark has a standard American accent, can't tell he's Canadian but when he said "rabbit out of a haaat" his Canuckness briefly manifested itself.
And the word "sorry" not to lean into that trope. I was watching the 80s early Jim Carrey movie "Once Bitten". Where he plays an American teenager, which is believable until he says "sorry". It's impossible to think any American kid pronounces it that way lol.
@@ricopaulson1
It's pretty much sorry and out/about.
Those almost always are a giveaway.
I’ve never heard “Canuckness” before and I love it
You know how Brits roast Americans for not getting that there's a huge difference in our accents well jokes on me because I can't hear any difference between his sorry and countless American sorry's I've heard in movies. I'll shut my trap from now on
@@cannibalbunnygirl Americans's are more Sar-ey versus the Canadian Sore-ey. With emphasis on the sar and sore.
Just when you said “that’s how you get a satisfying ending” an advert break hit halfway through the word ending and it was such a hint at what’s to come
I'm not a big fan of that movie Signs. Talk about aliens who did absolutely no reconnaissance. Water is their weakness but they invade a planet that over 70% of its surface is covered by water. All we need to do is have an army of Super Soakers to defeat them.
dont forget the super logical plan of invading literally naked with no weapons or equipment. They have interstellar travel but attack us in the nude, with water as a weakness.
We could SPIT on them and hurt them. Seriously why the hell does anyone accept that movies ending as legit lmao
Signs was awful
Or even just wait them out for a few days/weeks, farms like the one in the movie get a decent amount of rain.
Signs' twist was truly disappointing once you began to think about it, but the film had a great atmosphere, great build-up towards its climax and, above all, it had great characters and especially Gibson's one had a really great, satisfying and meaningful arc.
Plus, the whole analogy of trying to believe in aliens and trying to (re-start to) believe in God was also great.
Didn't I use the word 'great' way too many times? :-)
In the end, I thought that they should have simply changed just one detail, which would be the reason why the aliens eventually could not colonize the Earth and which would have zero effect on the rest of the story, and the whole film would have been just fine.
So in other words, the "water thing" was not that crucial after all.
Yep, the ending of signs was horrible, ruined what otherwise was a decent movie that was building good tension up too?
This movie almost made me fall asleep in the theater. I never expected such a thing from Shyamalan.
The worst part about the Village was he gave away the truth about the monsters BEFORE the main monster chase sequence, which made that sequence entirely unsuspenseful. The sequence itself was shot and edited masterfully, but when you've JUST BEEN TOLD it's just a guy in a costume, it robs it of any possible impact. To me, THAT was the point MNS lost his groove.
yeah but wasnt the girl blind? she didnt know
He never had any groove. We're talking about a guy who ripped off a Are You Afraid Of The Dark episode.
He lost his groove in Signs. That movie was really weird. I don't think enough people have watched it as adults.
I enjoyed "The happening". One of the funniest horror movies ever.
Scratch that, this is hillarious either 🤣
This is my favorite episode of yours. It shows how much you love movies and your vast knowledge of them and the types of cliches increasingly found in Shyamalan's films. Your passion and frustration is so palpable around 15:43, proving how much you care about it. Bravo.
There is a full size pickup concert tonight. He goes on right after compact two seater, and unicycle.
The kids keep growing and so do their clothes. Luckily.
That's what we call a "One trick pony". The trick might be fascinating once or twice, but it gets tiresome after a while. I feel this way with Wes Anderson's style. I used to love it up to "The Life Aquatic", but then, I felt his movies were getting repetitive. Now, I have no interest in them at all. Same with Tim Burton. When their style is set, that they don't evolve anymore, that they don't seem to try anything new, it's like... eating the same meal every time you go visit your old aunt. You stop going to see her as soon as you don't have to.
Surprised Mr. Knight's character doesn't fly in during act 3 and save everyone while also writing the movie that is going to save the planet from aliens that were already taking over the planet.
I think 'Old' is one of those movies that's "so bad its good". I enjoyed it and found it hilarious, i'd say it's worth a watch as long as you don't take it too seriously
The thing is ... "The Sixth Sense" is pretty much a Frank Marshall movie. That's the reason it has such a intriguing and coherent story. As soon as M Night seperated himself from Frank Marshall, he slowly shifted to those bad stories we have seen in past decade ...
That makes perfect sense. Thanks for pointing that out. The declining quality of M Night's filmography has been somewhat of a mystery to me. But it certainly makes sense to consider Sixth Sense that way-a young director guided by an experienced producer.
Yeah that would make perfect sense considering his first film especially and I would say the subsequent two or three as well we're still pretty good. At this point I keep trying to keep my expectations low and I always end up getting tricked. Luckily not with OLD, nice try Shyamalan.
It's an over rated movie from a very specific era where people would recommend shit movies to you if they had a twist. So who cares, reqlly.
@@howiegruwitz3173 Personally, I absolutely agree with you. Plot twists have never been interesting to me, not even in crime dramas or murder mysteries.
I my opinion, The Sixth Sense is a "horror" movie for people who don't like or watch real horror movies. Lots of people have told me, "Uh, I like a good scary movie like The Sixth Sense, and...". 🙄
There certainly is a market for these Disney style "horror" movies -- for people who doesn't like actually horror.
This type of video is so much better than some his recent reviews of very obscure old movies
This movie would be better if it were an SCP style of story, like the foundation found this beach that ages you rapidly and they send people with sketchy backgrounds or criminals to test the beach.
something like 'the i-land'?
@@manlymcstud8588 kinda. They don't know what is going to happen , all they know is they're going to see an SCP. They'll either think they're gonna die horrible deaths, be emotionally or physicly scarred, or the odd few that think it's gonna be safe.
@@907norseman so, the setting doesn't matter, but in these cases it helps the production when the setting is cheap....
dunno, the whole premise was played out already years ago during the whole YA thing, wasn't it? that is, the idea that a group of people are put in a terrible situation and are being secretly monitored by a corporation/government.
@@manlymcstud8588 I suppose, what I'm going for is that the SCP background for this movie would probably give it some semblance of a better plot, rather than a drug company having the only beach in the world that can age things/people to test drugs. It's a super underground research based protection agency that is testing this unnatural anomaly, trying keep normal people away from it and to see why it's happened by using convicts as test dummies
SCP lore was pretty cool at first, but at this point it's grown far too over-the-top and stupid. The actual entities, creatures, and mysterious forces in SCP stories are really interesting and legitimately creepy, but the whole "top secret government organization that's actually existed for a very long time, that has seemingly endless resources and manpower (considering the ridiculous number of SCP agents that are killed/sacrificed), yet somehow it remains top secret to the public somehow". And as the lore went on, this secret government organization became more and more cartoonishly evil. Bond-villain tier "cartoonishly evil". The problem with SCP lore is that anyone can add to it. It's all just 'fan fiction' at the end of the day. And way too many teenagers who are horrible writers and have terrible ideas have contributed, making the entire SCP mythology the stupid, cartoonish shit-show that it is today.
The problem I had with the Sixth Sense was that even though the twist hadn't been spoilt for me before I saw it, I knew it had a big twist. Because I knew this, I predicted what the twist was very early in the movie - I kept asking myself why no-one was interacting with Bruce Willis, then it hit me. I imagine if I had gone in cold it would have had an impact, but that's the problem with twist movies - when you know there is one you look for clues about it. The exception would be The Usual Suspects - I defy anyone to have predicted that twist before the end of the movie - it truly came out of nowhere but made perfect sense after the reveal and changed the nature of the entire experience.
This has become the problem with any M Night movies; you know there is going to be a big twist at the end, so you don't bother to get invested in the story because you already know he going to throw out huge portions of it in the end and put in something crazy, like a beach that's magical for some reason.