Why L Lawliet VS Dazai Isn't Close
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Why L VS Dazai Isn't Close. Between these high IQ characters, who is actually smarter? through raw feats? Let's find out.
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man who is smarter character in fiction
I think Sherlock holmes novel is the smarter character in fiction history
Dude you are being quite biased
@@piyushraj8109 you know 🤔
@@piyushraj8109 you are right 😅😅👍
@@sebamohamed4596lupin the third wins over sherlock
Dazai and Ranpo are EXTREMELY unrealistic.
Some of their feats are beyond logic. Not much L can do here.
If Ranpo was in L's shoes, DN would last one ep.
Also Dazai never stated Ranpo is smarter than him really. He said stronger and strong can have very different meanings especially in BSD context.
Guessing the exact number Fyodor was thinking of on his 1st try is insanely unrealistic to the point it’s not even funny. After i heard that i already decided who was smarter
@@3301Idiotic not only that but he said it's too easy and boring as well 💀
i guess it's similar to what chishiya did in the number game in alice in borderland but on a much bigger scale
The first episode of death note was literally just Light getting the death note..
I never understand why people keep saying "If ranpo was in DN it would end in the first episode" which just isn't true. Ranpo legit has nothing to go off and I know someone's gonna say "Ranpo was able to solve a case with no evidence" and that's true but you can still make logical assumptions and he still had bases to go off of. For example you can obviously conclude that the person who commited the crime is in the general area (this would have to be the case as the murder was direct which means the killer had to have been present in that area) and the person who murdered the manga writer would have to be someone who had a personal motive against him because he isn't a random person nor are there any more killings that could conclude a pattern and perferred characteristics for victims but with the Kira case that is completely different. Kira could legit be ANYWHERE and since he targets criminals it's not like you could draw the conclusion that it was done by someone personally of course you can inference that the killer hates criminals but that still wouldn't help. Also the fact that the death note is indirect means that not only is it physically impossible to gather evidence but also it's almost practically impossible to guest who and the area they reside also you can't draw any conclusion and you can't link any evidence to it because it's a heart attack and the killer isn't physically there.
@@rimurusensei7there's no dialogue in bsd. The info literally feels like they pull it out from their ass
The BSD verse literally has a whole bunch of super human, a semi-normal world like in Death Note verse really can't scale the same.
Funny thing is, Dazai isn't even the smartest character in the story. That title belongs to Ranpo, who is an ordinary human in a world of supernaturals.
Also, Dazai's power is nullification, it has nothing to do with intelligence.
That doesn't even matter what... Ranpo, the smartest character in BSD doesn't even HAVE an ability. He's as average as L, but Ranpo manages to solve case on the spot with hardly any details to deduct off and he doesnt even TRY. Not to mention that Dazai's ability doesn't have ANYTHING to do with his intellect. His ability only nullifies other abilities, that's it.
Read the BSD manga and novels… Dazai is truly something else, his intellect and intelligence is absolutely ridiculous
Yeah ridiculous fr because everything he does doesn't make any freaking sense
Yeah stormbringer goes crazy
@@chri6438 Like batman
@@Uno6012Fr I wasn’t sure whether I should be exited shit was happening or genuinely scared of Dazai’s abilities when I was reading it
His IQ is likely 205
Bruh L is literally just a regular human. That's like putting Mikey against Sanji.
fr
Dazai takes easily but stop underrating L . He solved a case (almost) involving supernatural elements and guessing a single person from a population of 7B
@@titanfreefire193Dazai still no diffs tho.
L is definitely not regular he got rich from his intellect alone
@@SomeStuffNLH No - Low diff
Also in the Ln The day I picked up Dazai, Dazai as a kid made counterfeit notes which looked very identical to the real currency notes
I swear bros next video will be
''why coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb isnt close"
gotchu
Nah bros next video gonna be like
"why Anya vs Scarlet King isn't close" lmao
Coughing baby solos very easily and no concept defs the hydrogen bomb with his germs such a massive spite match
Ngl I thought u meant Aktugawa
Dazai, Fyodor and Ranpo are truly great
The three geniuses of the Bungo Stray Dogs anime 👌👌
this was never a debate 💀
Dazai 💀💀
Dazai’s ability isn’t as useful as his intellect is. The storyline depends on dazai’s brain not his ability tbh.
When Dazai and Fyodor were in prison, the organization the armed detective agency was fighting was the decay angels and not rats in the house of the dead.
Also, Dazai does have some pretty good detective feats, like in season 1 he already knew that the police guy was the killer of that woman whose body was by the river and even later explained his reasoning to Atsushi at the end of the episode. In the Azure messenger arc when he realizes who the true culprit was ((which could be argued to be in large part EQ but you'd still need deductive and inductive reasoning to figure it out)) and in the first flashback arc when working off very limited information he figured out that Mori Ougai set Odasaku up and even was the one who brought "Mimic" to Japan
His fluid reasoning should be above L's, his learning capabilties are extremely high, becoming the youngest ever port mafia executive is extremely impressive.
Dazai’s feat of deduction is even crazier when you consider that he figured out the identity of the masked murderer and somehow figure out that the masked murderer was actually manipulated by Fyodor and somehow managed to figure out what he is planning and somehow managed to figure out his escape route within 2 to 3 seconds
And when it comes down to visualisation, his chess game is impressive but what’s most impressive is that he can visualise the whole war that is happening in Yokohama that is influencing the whole world casually after the main villain use the vampire infection to control the military of 20 or so country and was gonna launch missiles from every country, and he visualised all of that from the prison, him and Fyodor almost destroyed the world just playing chess with the world itself,that is a feat of manipulation and visualisation that is to the point of being stupid due to how smart it is, especially when you consider they are in a maximum security prison on the other side of the world
I understand that you’re trying to keep it respectful, but when you scale them, the only thing L can take from Dazai is debatably just knowledge.
Edit: also let’s not forget that one time where he managed to deduce that a sky casino that existed for 13 years was actually created eight days ago by a reality warping book, even though the book created 13 years worth of memory and history Dazai was able to see through memory and reality manipulation and deduce that it was built eight days ago with the book. I’m sorry but L could never do that.
Also light novel Dazai is another level(not including the beast novel because in that novel he is literally night omniscient with infinite memories across infinite alternative universe so we’re not gonna talk about beast Dazai ), like that one time where the main universe Dazai managed to think and process information faster than a supercomputer robot created by the British government itself, he managed to deceive him despite his lie detector function, why people are comparing him to L or Light is beyond me
Also let’s not forget that Dazai was in a prison where there is a lock door every 5 to 10 meters each one with their own passcode and the passcode changes every hour with a randomiser function, and this man was just walking through the doors like the passwords were created by him. He can figure out and anticipate a randomiser function of the most secure prison in his verses
I don’t see any Mid Diff in anything it’s just No Diff whether it be intelligence or outsmarting
That's the problem, Dazai "somehow" knew it. No reasoning whatsoever. Legit guesswork.
@@liminal9207 there IS reasoning, just off screen. so it's not guesswork.
@@rimurusensei7 If you,may explain the reasoning I would love it because I wanna scale Dazai decently in logical scaling.
@@liminal9207 i don't think Dazai scales so high in methodology scaling etc. most of his feats are offscreen. what I'm trying to say is being offscreen doesn't make it non logical.
For example take Dazai's number guessing feat. We don't know how he got it right so easily but one can only speculate that he did something similar to chishiya in aib where they had to guess the number from 1-100. On that episode chishiya narrowed down the numbers others could have guessed based on deductions and common sense etc. We can speculate dazai did the same but on an astronomically bigger scale. You can't expect this kind of feat to be explainable in human terms, author obviously can't do that either, he already stated that dazai is 500 times smarter than he is.
@@rimurusensei7 that's the issue, it's narrative and unexplained 😭
Dazai negs L as a detective too dazai is very close to ranpo in logical reasoning. While ranpo no diffs L
Wth L no diffs ranpo and dazai stay mad
@@tornado1809 L take has no bases
Dazai unironically no diffs
Bungou Stray Dogs 🎉🎉🎉
To The Stray Dogs 🥂
Beast Dazai created a whole new verse and had 5d awareness . This was overkill to begin with ngl
IKR.
He planned a verse so that his friend can live a normal life 💀
True, and not to mention that in stormbringer it states that Dazai created an entire plan in less than a minute
@@sivermoon + he foresaw all the plans of comp fyodor and in his entrance exam he deduced all the enemy's stratergy and used it against him and told kunikida that nothing he will do would surprise him + he is able to hear the contraction of muscles and facial movements which makes his observation UNCOMPARABLE . Furthermore when he took over Port mafia his influence surpassed mori when he was only 15
This is the crazy feat of dazai that is unrealistic compared to death note most of dazai feats are unexplained and can't be applied in real life while L have some real and way better feats compared to dazai
@@tornado1809 his feats arent better its anime its not supposed to be realistic
Dazai’s planning and manipulation is…truly insane
L seems to be one of your favorite of death note , dude got alot of video on him which is cool
Bro😭😭😭😭.This match isn't fair.The Matchup I requested were fair
I love how you described Mori so well. Big up, great video
Ranpo v L is needed
It’s not it would be a 2 minute video😭
LOL
😭😭😭😭
I love them both so much but Ranpo easily solos 😭
bungo stray dogs mention .?,!?!?
This is gonna be good 👀 I love both of these characters
Get them both past Kushida 🥱
Ong frfr
Fax
Literally who?
I feel like "Bungo stray dogs" and "Usogui" have both unparalleled, crazy smart characters compared to other popular series.
Usogui is, yes, smart but at least they are human species, have explaination about their plans and thinking, which make them more logical, realistic and perhap, likable as smart characters in the community
BSD is like a battle between gods, those can foresee everything, read opponent's minds and something like that, it's almost like NGNL and Reversed Insanity, where they aren't just smart characters anymore, they are already omniscient beings
I'm not saying BSD is not likable btw, I'm just saying how overpowered those mfs are in SCD
You should do Moriarty the patriot vs Dazai or L
Awesome video man
You finally did a video with dazai and its soooo gooood🙏
Love your content 😊😊😊
we out here
Goat is back!!!!
@@AventSir Akiyama next! Please, I think Dazai is overkill though Edit-according to what i've heard
@@AventSiryoooo if you want a interesting challenge Light vs Analog horrors
Chuck the goat!
*Ranpo and Fyodor havw left the chat*
From what we’ve seen Dazai pull off, it’s just insane how smart he is.
u uploaded! i srsly enjoy ur vids.
thank u so much
I need to see Usogui in this channel so badly please 🙂
💀 bro this isnt even a discussion but W vid tho
Fr who tf thinks L stands a chance against DAZAI here ☠☠☠ I've seen some crazy takes but never seen anyone think characters like Light, L, or Koji stand a chance against Dazai
okay now do ranpo vs light
ranpo wins
Ranpo no diffs
Rambo is practically the same as dazai personally I believe that he is just the SLIGHTEST bit better at detective work
Avent, I'm a big fan, please make "Could Dazai solve the Kira case?"
we could get this going!
Dazai would Easily do it because he has no problem with doing what l could have done
@@AventSir with no ability because no longer human would be too much of an advantage
@@Hfrost451 I think Ranpo should be the one to handle the Kira Case for fairness.
He would easily clear death note no diff, chapter 114-114.5 logical reasoning alone should be enough
Can akiyama solve kira case
Light Vs Yokoya
Day 21983
Akiyama vs Kira Cass
All that for FYODOR TO NO DIFF BOTH OF THEM.
After the last chapter he slays SCD
Not necessarily.
The important thing is that both Fyodor and Dazai can figure each other's plans out, they both try to deceive each other just long enough for their contingency plan to work.
he aint no diffing anybody .
im sure dazai will pull something like
"i predicted that u predicted that i predicted ur moves " lol
@@sdviper5468 Well, technically Akutagawa's and Atsushi's new Double Black was supposed to be the force to defeat Fyodor.
And the properties of their Gifts especially when working together could be super effective against the new threat which I won't spoil.
So in a way Dazai also have a contingency plan for Fyodor, The new Double Black.
chapter 114.5
@@fardin_king6817bro I watched the anime can you please spoil everything after that like fyodors return etc
@@firecinamatic5231 Dazai was doubting whether Fyodor died or not and was worried rolling on the ground, Chuuya and Dazai also found Sigma unconscious have Chuuya apparently made him fall 15 times to wake him up but failed and Dazai's nullification did nothing as well, Dazai guessed that Sigma's brain must be processing the information that he extracted from Fyodor but since it was too much his brain shut down to process it kind of like Atsushi.
Sigma while processing information discovered that Fyodor was alive even during 1400s when Bram had his full body and was clearly shocked that he didn't even look like he aged.
Dazai and Chuuya go back to the crashed helicopter to investigate Fyodor's corpse, plot twist that corpse was well, like a fake which surprised Dazai and we later discover through Sigma that Fyodor was once killed by one of Bram's Knights but after killing him he started acting strangely.
Dazai later found out the true nature of Fyodor's Gift, apparently he doesn't kill by touch, in earlier chapter Dazai theorized that Fyodor must have killed the Special Department agent using Nathaniel's Gift and we discovered that his true Gift is to subsume the one who killed him as the next Fyodor and since the Vampire that killed him was just a tool like a gun or knife used by Bram on top of that it wasn't like he was killed by poison or Dazai's hands which Fyodor wanted to avoid, this is why he let himself get captured, and since the one with the intent of killing Fyodor was Bram Fyodor took over Bram and then stabbed Fukuchi using Amenogozen and Holy Cross Sword, Dazai was shocked after learning Fyodor's true plan and informed Ranpo but was too late, Fyodor's death was part of his plan, through Ranpo's inner monolog we learn that he created a Tripolar Singularity using the Holy Cross Sword that impaled Bram, Amenogozen and Fukuchi's Gift.
I doubt that I did a good job of summarizing the events properly so I recommend you to read the manga for yourself.
I believe that Atsushi's Gift can solve this Chaos of Tripolar Singularity as his Gift is the antithesis to all Gifts, this is what allowed him to kill Shibusawa who also was a Singularity in Fyodor's words.
Atsushi's Gift the Tiger Byakko is also special Byakko is only one of four guardian deities in Chinese mythology/Japanese Buddhism (AKA The Four Heavenly Kings). Each of the four has a designated compass direction.
Finally videos about bsd charecters please make videos about other smart bsd charecters too
Can you do a Video about Fyodor ?
yep
Thanks Bro
now do ranpo vs L
Make fair battles bro 😭
When is Akiyama showing up in this video format?🤑
can you do "can L solve the whiteroom case"? think it would be interesting
Baku vs Intelligence Games next 🗣💯💯💯
Finally back to normal vids
2 kaji victims beefing again 😹🙏
Now do Light vs Fyodor 🔥
This is literally”coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb”
So much Overkill💀
What is light even gonna do?😭
He'd simply let Light kill him, take over his body, own both The Book and The Death Note, and become a god. Let's be honest here.
Light is smart, but Fyodor solos
12:59 this is the biggest flex ever
Also you sound like your falling asleep here 3:37
If were going for iq, the smartest character in bsd is ranpo edogawa
Except in that case L would get nothing
Neither compare to me 🗿🍷
This isn’t fair tf,but either way W video
L vs Ranpo next?
6:29 I will say that for experienced chess players around master level, most of them can play chess pretty well when blindfolded, so this point about chess doesn't really prove much.
We need a realistic full-scale intelligence series about Akiyama (Musical Chairs feat>>>)
'dazai would beat fyodor in terms of outsmarting with mid intelligence (Diff?)'
Chapter 114(.5): Are you sure about that?
Otherwise the videos mostly fine, I think its important to note (despite Dazai still taking VSI) that the chessboard was a representation of the entire Sky Casino and Air port that the events were taking place at, and they were able to visualise things in the Sky casino, to almost everything that happened in the air port before the things even happened.
This allowed dazai to go off of his 'trust' for ranpo (in that ranpo would get negotiate with bram to kill fyodor through the vampire piloting the helicopter) as Dazai was capable of visualising this far. But as of 114.5, we learn that Fyodor was capable of doing this too, and had it planned before he even got imprisoned (bro manipulated dazai into using that strategy too)
I also think Dazai deducing where Sigma and the Air casino originate from are decent LR feats, along with Dazai figuring out what method Fyodor was using to communicate to the outside which should of been roughly during the Sky Casino arc)
So I agree that FRI cgew, but Imo I lean it towards Dazai
(Recent chapter jus cucked me i know.)
@@AventSir real
Next matchup Sora vs Ayanokoji
Doesnt dazai nave the memories of all the pssible universes inside the book? If he does then he would beat L in knowledge, but im not completely sure if its only beast dazai that has those memories or all the dazais do
Yeah it’s just beast Dazai, main universe Dazai doesn’t have that
@@OsamuDazai-gk6wt ok thank u
What about William James Moriarty from Moriarty the Patriot?
I could definitely see him getting a death note in the past and that working for his story as well
Big W
How you read NGNL or aleast no the feats ? If so I think you should be a video about him and him bullying someone because no one really beats him
BUNGOU STRAY DOGS MENTIONED????? 🙏🙏🙏🙏
0:30 IM SORRY BUT DID I HEAR DAZAI OMASU😭😭😭
This was never a debate. Dazai intelligence >>>> L
do L vs sherlock please
Novel sherlock no low diff
Sherlock no diff
Please make a video on liar game
How can you edit so fast?
Haven't finished reading BSD, but are most of Dazai's feats really off screen?
no
No. They all are mostly on-screen. It was just a rumor his haters had spread.
No and Nether is ngnls that’s just false narrative pushed around by realistic fan girls
Ngnl is neither offscreen neither onscreen its just purely bad and sora is below yuichi@@Buggie5566
@@Buggie5566akiyama fangirls :
ive only gotten to s3 of bungou but i feel like dazais intellect is just really unrealistic, we're told he's smart and he is, but we can't see the thoughts going on inside his head. However, with L we see the build up of him revealing Kira's identity, even after his death everything goes according to plan. When i think about the two characters I will always think L is smarter because we actually see how everything unfolds and why he believes what he does. Dazai though just gets it, which makes him far less interesting in this regard
My Opinion:
Manga And Anime L < Novel L < Manga And Anime Dazai [Mid - High - High Difficulty] < Novel Beast Dazai [Beyond Negative Difficulty + Overkill]
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Im legit tweaking cuz you pronounce "fyodor" as "Theodore"
Can you do a matchup that's close for once in your life?
soon
Did you train an ai on your voice and then have it read out a script you wrote?
Wish i was able to do that cant lie
who would be a better detective rampo or dazai and L
L is better realistically, but if you want how fast a crime can be solved: Ranpo > Dazai >>> L
Ranpo
The funniest part 7:39, bro that dazai whole thing, only comparable to Dazai is Sora, Shiro and maybe Siesta (this is only manga and light novel) webnovel and novel are completely different. Fyodor vs L isn't close nexts
Nah siesta has been nerfed she is below moriarty now, also Dazai only sora and riku can compete against him now shiro does good but ultimately gets mid-high diffed by Dazai
Dazai is NO LONGER HUMAN after all.
Take dazai outa here and put ranpo🙏👽
Ranpo is only better in deduction and reasoning, but Dazai is overall better
@@donkbonktj5773 Dazai is not better, it's canon that ranpo is the smarter character and the smartest character in the anime even dazai said so I think :p
you should read usogui ... u must get to know who baku madarame is
Manga and Anime Dazai was already insane, but the Light Novel one is so unrealistic-
What about baku or kiruma souichi vs dazai
DO WHY L VS RANPO ISNT CLOSE
Animanga Dazai no-low diffs any version of L. His deduction and logical reasoning got buffed. Although raw intelligence is debatable.
i feel like death note is more based in reality than BSD is
becuz it is😭😭😭😭all the ADA members in bsd have abilities so it's not fair
Koji victimizer beat koji victimizer
Koji victimizer beat koji victim*
Light victimizer beat light victimizer*
Koji slams L kiddo
Manga dazai is overkill beast dazai neg diff
Compearing a realistic human with someone capable of supernatural abillities shouldnt interest anyones views of them
Dazai vs Ayanokoji? [Ez dub]
L clears good vid though
DAZIIII
L solos
I would advise you to read Change the World, L has way more feats, better and more complex. He is on another level. Nonetheless nice video continue like that bro
Explain to me some of L CTW's achievements
I've read CTW, however this was canon L. If we talk about CTW L, thats a whole other version of L I'll tackle exclusively! Thanks!!
@@user-se9dy5co2r Stopped WW3 at 8 years old, took him 1 month to catch Kira and had him suicide because he knew he would lose, hi fsiq is way more developed than canon L, and way more feats against groups of terrorists, stoping apocalyptic viruses , other cases and not only Kira like in the manga or the BB case in the novel, go read it it's good
@@user-se9dy5co2r but it’s a long time since i read it so im not sure if im 100% accurate on these, i might re read it
I have the PDF of the novel, I'm going to read it today. But how did L get Kira in a month if she originally lasted 1 year? Does Misa exist? And better yet, how does he see her? I know he considers Light his friend.@@stommmm45
If it's CTW L against any Dazai then i'd have to disagree but if its base L against the base dazai then yes
The only problem is dazai was raised and aware of abilities while L was not like he could have figured out everything and had gotten proof if he knew more about the death note. If L was placed in a world with magic it would be different and death note is a more realistic animation compared to bungo stray dogs I love dazai but this is a point that should be put out there even with Ls quotes you can see that he is a mastermind so in a way L could manipulate dazai or do something to him I think he could pull a win even with that I think dazai Could pull smth off but bsd iq characters are honestly over the top unfairly smart it would be cooler if we got more info on there strategy or smth even with that I do agree dazai would win on a death note vs bsd iq battle 😂🎉❤😊
Your basically putting a Demon made from Darkness with Blood as black as Hell against a human who is smart... Dazai's knowledge comes from his experience in the Port Mafia, his experience with death itself. Dazai is cursed to live. Cursed to survive. Ranpo is one of the smartest beings to ever exist- alongside Dazai. L is strong, but not stronger than those two. I will admit that both Dazai and L are overrated, but i think Dazai would come on top in this one.
how on earth is ranpo overrated??
simga
Dazai is unrealistic fooder L takes this and no diff
Come on bro.
Dazai in normal scaling is at the top of SCD, while L is at best a mid to high tier
Yeah. BEAST Dazai is at the Peak at normal scaling rn. The top of scd is just BSD and NGNL lmao
@@SomeStuffNLH
Amon no concept of diffs
Yuan no concept of diffs
Klein no concept of diffs
@@Ananyasingh06150who? Are they from RI?
@OsamuDazai-gk6wt
Fang from RI
Amon and Klein from lotm
Dazai almost every plan are unexplained and come out of no where his planned aren't even explained by author but still bsd fans are on delusional saying he can beat literally every anime character in out starting and that dumb atleast author should give him inner Monologue or something to explain his feats and yeah same with fyodor
Watch the anime till season 5 and you'll know kid
@@Sizzsucks I have watched all seasons and read LN that why I'm saying this
@@Dgbh0099 well , it's always plot Armor