Timestamps: 0:00 - 2:29 - Intro 2:29 - 4:50 - The importance of making public amends 4:50 - 10:18 - The day everything crashed & burned 10:18 - 13:33 - Why Carl came to NYC originally 13:33 - 17:46 - What message were you spreading? 17:46 - 24:53 - Hillsong’s first gathering & rapid growth 24:53 - 27:28 - Attracting famous people 27:28 - 35:38 - Building trust & then breaking it 35:38 - 37:31 - Is fame a drug? 37:31 - 43:00 - Is Carl a narcissist? 43:00 - 48:14 - The infamous photo 48:14 - 51:36 - Standing with the black community 51:36 - 54:18 - Beers & a homeless guy 54:18 - 56:06 - What was real? 56:06 - 58:18 - Warning signs of implosion 58:18 - 1:05:19 - The first time he crossed a line 1:05:19 - 1:09:46 - Private life vs. public life 1:09:46 - 1:13:07 - Carrying a dysfunctional belief system 1:13:07 - 1:17:51 - Did anyone know about Carl’s secrets? 1:17:51 - 1:23:05 - Addiction cycles & the affair 1:23:05 - 1:25:35 - Dealing with the aftermath 1:25:35 - 1:30:30 - What happened next 1:30:30 - 1:34:33 - Addiction, trauma & brain scans 1:34:33 - 1:41:40 - Why wasn’t God enough for Carl? 1:41:40 - 1:52:33 - Group therapy & rebuilding marriage 1:52:33 - 1:58:15 - Why speak out now?
I got my license to provide psychotherapy in 1982 and through this lens I was very impressed with Carl's "willful decision" to find out what was wrong with him. It takes a great deal of courage to walk that journey. The outcome is VERY impressive. I also respect his wife who had the courage and "brain power" along with "intuition" to know this guy was worth walking along side during his journey. The decision to share your newfound wisdom, which is "applied knowledge" only explains your heart motives to glorify God.
I went to his Church in NY during a time in my life I was completely lost. God always knows what he is doing. God gave you a purpose even in your darkness. Soo many of us battle our relationship with sin and our relationship with god. I respect Carl so much because his journey is the journey of every Christian to fall and get back up. To own it! To continue to have faith and to overcome no matter what! No one ever said Christians were perfect in human form. We are all here to heal, grow, love and change. When I was brought to his church and he came on stage I was amazed that I witnessed a pastor dressed in a “bad boys” clothes. Tattoo’s and leathers! God knew he was showing me that I was there to be inspired no matter my lifestyle choices.
Witnessing his journey of redemption, extreme honesty and willingness to expose his deepest trauma and truth is powerful. I’m humbled and honoured to watch his path. The world, the church needs this kind of honesty, compassion and grace.
We were here when he fell, and we are here for the restoration. We thank God for lifting Carl's head and for healing him and his family. God makes all things beautiful in its time. The man even looks different. Real transformation has taken place.❤
1:30:10 This was so good. Thank you for your openness and vulnerability. I have watched a lot of Carl talking about this and I have to say that the detail you gave here was the best yet. Keep talking about those cycles and how it all works and the work you are doing to combat it. This made a lot make sense when it comes to this. This was beautiful..
What a REFRESHING interview and great hope and life giving discussions. Just goes to show you how, if you were mistreated as a child, and there was no one to help you put the puzzle pieces together or help you deal with the trauma, how easily the enemy of our souls can can enact a stronghold that can take years to break. And to remind us all that we are always in process and thankfully, perfection is not on the table! Bravo, Carl! To have a neutral person in a therapist/counselor that has no other motive but to help hold the mirror up and help us get to the healing we need to move forward and ultimately help others? Its priceless! Just priceless! Thank you and thank God for your honesty and integrity to share it! ❤
Every human has something that they don’t want to be in “the light” and to those who say that you have no sin, you are a lie… Thank you Pastor Carl for all that you’ve shared to be a hope and strength to all would choose to hear and learn from the work you all put in to get to a better level of victory, growth and especially faith… this process was no doubt difficult but necessary . Thank you for not quitting. Thank you for not giving up! Thank you❤❤❤❤❤❤
I was encouraged by the frankness of the conversation and found his description of the accountability he found in group therapy and the description of the cycles of sin helpful.
OK… I know that I’m only halfway through this interview, but where are the hard questions? Going back to the comment about the photo in Lohan shorts, his behavior at the time would match someone who’s already in involved in an extra marital affair. So I think that’s the point from Joe Rogan. Whether or not he took the photo on purpose or he was dressed like that on purpose, it’s not really the point. The point is that he was already doing things and dabbing in a lifestyle of sin. When we do that, send creeps in into every area of our life, the way we dress, the way we speak, the way we react…
Carl….I pray you have the courage to OPENLY discuss pornography. Women like me (who’s high profile Christian marriage was destroyed by it), know what you are dancing around it. And the men in the church DESPERATELY need your story. Quit dancing around it. It’s not gum at 7/11. So appreciate your miracle.
The fact that he has committed such acts, hiding behind the Church, lying to thousands, I can’t see in him much remorse, for the woman & others he hurt. King David didn’t use addiction problems… Only God sees his heart. I could not trust anything coming out of his mouth. His body language speaks volumes & that hat is his covering, can’t see his eyes…the eyes speak volumes. This organization is all about $$$$$ He’s a real PERFORMER! God knows it all.
@@thabisilentleko3741 He isn’t God, he’s just stating the obvious. Carl Lentz has always been a performer. Someone who likes to have one foot in, one foot out. He bamboozled thousands and thousands of people, including his own family, because of his extreme egotistical personality.
I'm a huge believer in the passages about not letting a novice pastor. I'm convinced that your marriage and children are your proving ground. Grow in character and godliness from 20 to 45 or so, then pastor if you're called.
I appreciate Carl’s work that he’s done for himself but I can’t stand that he acts like the fame wasn’t a game changer to him. He fed off it, was consumed by it, and sunk himself in it
@@727elle I agree with that part. In his own podcast though he stated he didn’t care about the fame. He is a master manipulator, but I am also believing the best in him on a new platform
I really wanted to watch this and see what happened to the pastor I followed back in NY. But even as today, I didn't hear you mention the Power of God into church. Church was built from your strategies and your plugs... that's so selfish and far beyond a heart that loves Jesus.
I remember seeing his IG bio line before the drama and it having a Biggie quote; ‘things to make you smile what numbers to dial’ and thinking (this guy isn’t a real Christian how are so many people following him) Glad that he’s found recovery.
Disturbing how calculated and rehearsed Mr Lentz intro of his “journey” was. Sir, if you were a pastor you knew the seriousness of what you had been doing. Unfortunately you were caught, I don’t how many years you would have kept it going?
I got as far as 45 minutes into this and there is not one mention of the word sin. It is not a disorder what he did but a sinful act. Not until Carl goes to the Bible and studies the Epistles from Paul on our battle with sin and walking in the Spirit, he will not overcome.
52:40 to 52:55 Carl said he would buy the guy beer if he comes to his church…Yooo that’s a red flag! He said, “how could you do that to get someone to come to church” and he said “I didn’t”…You just said you made the trade SMH 🚩🚩🚩 The gospel doesn’t teach us to enable! That’s why we need discipleship! That is NOT THE GOSPEL!
@@Theredgatsby21 Hillsong was already an established church here in Australia. I agree they started Hillsong NY. Which was the first campus in America. But, it was considered a church plant.
No humility. Not a word about Christ as the leader of the church. He would be nothing without Jesus leadership. He loves the attention and loves to hear himself talk.
Eye-opening, agree too as a pastor ...American culture too I guess to put self as builder/co-builder rep the project ...also, likely how some question was phrased eg "what about you that..."
He needed to understand the addiction cycle and childhood trauma from a psychological perspective. Christ can be a crutch to run away from it rather than deal with it. Maybe he’ll mention christ once he and Laura have healed.
Thanks for talking bout his life, church planting n church life as a whole Thanks for talking bout lessons learned on public stage + unraveling, repair + among the famous who trusted + handling brokenness - damages
Good refining season for Hillsong Thanks for co-pioneering in a megacity n blessed bountifully for a bit. For modern/future ministers, maybe more deep cleansing before [going big in] ministry ...given our broken world + for lasting route
How do these people find their $300 hats and $175 sweat pants? Who's telling them what they need to wear to be cool? I've never heard of these brands till they wear them.
@@RCGWhoWhen the Bible describes the home of a Godly family, in this case speaking of the woman, it says in Prov 31: "She is not afraid of snow for her household, for all her household are clothed in scarlet.. She makes bed coverings for herself; her clothing is fine linen and purple." Do you criticize them for being blessed with expensive clothes? What makes you feel that God wants His children in cheaply made clothes? Who decides what quality of clothes is acceptable or what price? Who decides that? Why do some Christians decide that Christians should be poor? Not too poor to give and bless others, it obviously takes money to bless and give; but apparently poor and have nothing themselves...
45 years old, tight shirt, full jewelry, fashion hat. Get over your narcisism. Literally you think you get to criticize the derision and judgment. You deserve ten thousand times more.
You are literally judging Carl for what he’s wearing. Which has NOTHING to do with who he is. But it does show that you are very insecure and that the way he’s dressed is a trigger for you. Instead of spewing hate and judgement, maybe take this as an opportunity to look inside yourself and find out why Carl, his actions and his outfit are irritating you enough to leave a hateful comment.
In my opinion .. (& Everyone has one)!!.. I think he’s going through a mid-life Crisis!!.. plus being too comfortable in his position.. lying.. deceitful.. unfaithful!!.. I would think your parents would have been able to recognize your weaknesses & issues!! You said you were 20-23!! They could have gotten you HELP!!! 😭💔🙏🙏🙏 Taking you to a Counselor!!
Nothing changed, now it’s time to capitalize, using the strangles to help other people. “Coach” My question is: How can you preach the gospel and not be changed? He knows how to answer every question. Very well spoken.
@withorwithoutu100 it's not ridiculous. It's accurate. He knows the correct answer for everything. He even says in the interview that he knows what to leave in and leave out.
@RCGWho he's talking about saying something that can be taken as click bait.......just admit you have hate for him and you're blinded by it. It's ok, the honesty won't hurt you.
Take the hat off, show your eyes so we can see your heart. You said on the view something about the gay community & you should have said that they need Jesus & turn from sin but you didn’t, you had an opportunity to tell the world about Gods grace.
Why do you go easy on this guy..Call him out on his narcissistic behaviour and ego..his shorts were ridiculous designed to show off his body and he probably thought he'd look great like a model (David Gandy in his underwear commercial) how did he think for one moment that he wouldn't be papped with Beiber. Ridiculous character
@RCGWho And what are you doing? Do you assume verbal and public criticisms of a fellow believer with whom you do not know personally God ordained, as if He made you the gatekeeper of His ministers who have sinned who have sinned? I feel sorry for anyone who is under your care...
@RCGWho Let's see. This vid is of a man of God who was sinning, and God brought to a place of repentance. The man is now forward in accountability, surrendered healing, and with God using it to help others, in the same way the accounts in the Scriptures are used, with examples of all Israel and the forefathers. Yet, here you are as a condemning judge and jury based on your assumptions of him. Therefore, who's the Troll?
I don't like how they're trying to act like fame is a burden and that people can't criticize famous people.people don't have to act like famous people are excused of their behavior because they're famous and somehow have extra burdens.nobody has to just not have an opinion on famous people. This interviewer should be just as concerned about the regular people who went to Carls church who got hurt or affected m.he seems that only the celebrities that went there matter
How can you say that everything was truth what you were speaking if you were full of lies.. your source couldnt be Jesus back then even you knew Jesus is right.. I am so thankful that God’s grace is so big that he is healing your life and your family but I dont understand how you dont see that there was so much false teaching and false leadership.. I bless that all the people who were leaded wrong way would be healed and also praying that you get so close to Jesus that you dont need anything else.
you still have to dress appropriately regardless you dont get a pass. you were a pastor and its called Modesty...period. its gotta the same the for the body of Christ. we are help to be accountable. are we perfect, NO, but there's no need for us to be revealing in what we wear. people need to stop making excuses and feeling like you need to be seen by exploiting our bodies.
Carl. there is a HUGE difference between Godly repentance and worldly repentance, you still come across as being a god in your own mind. Your methods don’t have wisdom & true insight, you need to watch American Gospel (Christ Alone).
God forgives, for sure but he is not suitable to continue in ministry. This will be always as a stumbling stone in his path, unfortunately. This can’t be undone. Someone having affairs over 5 months is absolutely horrible. How can someone think they have the Holy Spirit and God’s annoiting and keep sinning like this, sinning in his body which should be the temple of the Holy Spirit. God loves him, of course. God forgives him, yes! But he is nowhere near to be a suitable pastor of any church and everyone with true wisdom of God’s kingdom should be able to see this. So I hope he is not going to be any “pastor” to anybody. Accept that what he has done is very serious and stay now on the backstage wherever he may want to congregate. Dont pastor anybody, please. Dont be in front of people praying and laying hands on people. Please. This is a very serious character problem, runs deep. I am not a psychologist but it looks like some narcissistic personality disorder may also be one of his issues. God bless him. But hope he never will be “pastor” to someone. If what he was doing at this Hillsong church was ever pastoring, by the way. Another issue too…
““Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?” They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust. When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?” “No, Lord,” she said. And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.” ----------” John 8:4-11 NLT
“Then the angel showed me Jeshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord. The Accuser, Satan, was there at the angel’s right hand, making accusations against Jeshua. And the Lord said to Satan, “I, the Lord, reject your accusations, Satan. Yes, the Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebukes you. This man is like a burning stick that has been snatched from the fire.” Jeshua’s clothing was filthy as he stood there before the angel. So the angel said to the others standing there, “Take off his filthy clothes.” And turning to Jeshua he said, “See, I have taken away your sins, and now I am giving you these fine new clothes.” Then I said, “They should also place a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean priestly turban on his head and dressed him in new clothes while the angel of the Lord stood by. Then the angel of the Lord spoke very solemnly to Jeshua and said, “This is what the Lord of Heaven’s Armies says: If you follow my ways and carefully serve me, then you will be given authority over my Temple and its courtyards. I will let you walk among these others standing here.” Zechariah 3:1-7 NLT
I say that to say as Jesus said to the pharisees, let HE who is WITHOUT sin throw the first stone. should the Lord has deemed Carl as not guilty and called him into a position of authority as he did to Jeshua, silencing the accuser who kept pointing out his sins that the Lord said he’s forgiven him of and REJECTS every accusation by the evil one to condemn him and make him feel unworthy. you are speaking and going against God to say he should no longer be a pastor when God himself had acquitted him of his sins, who do YOU think you are to condemn him when God has saved and redeemed him??? check your heart, and pray the Lord grants you the same mercy and grace as you try to condemn his child and his chosen one. Moses was a murderer but did God say he was unworthy to free his people and be used as a leader ?? so again I ask, who do YOU think you are?? I pray the Lord gives you a renewed mind and deliver you from self righteousness.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - 2:29 - Intro
2:29 - 4:50 - The importance of making public amends
4:50 - 10:18 - The day everything crashed & burned
10:18 - 13:33 - Why Carl came to NYC originally
13:33 - 17:46 - What message were you spreading?
17:46 - 24:53 - Hillsong’s first gathering & rapid growth
24:53 - 27:28 - Attracting famous people
27:28 - 35:38 - Building trust & then breaking it
35:38 - 37:31 - Is fame a drug?
37:31 - 43:00 - Is Carl a narcissist?
43:00 - 48:14 - The infamous photo
48:14 - 51:36 - Standing with the black community
51:36 - 54:18 - Beers & a homeless guy
54:18 - 56:06 - What was real?
56:06 - 58:18 - Warning signs of implosion
58:18 - 1:05:19 - The first time he crossed a line
1:05:19 - 1:09:46 - Private life vs. public life
1:09:46 - 1:13:07 - Carrying a dysfunctional belief system
1:13:07 - 1:17:51 - Did anyone know about Carl’s secrets?
1:17:51 - 1:23:05 - Addiction cycles & the affair
1:23:05 - 1:25:35 - Dealing with the aftermath
1:25:35 - 1:30:30 - What happened next
1:30:30 - 1:34:33 - Addiction, trauma & brain scans
1:34:33 - 1:41:40 - Why wasn’t God enough for Carl?
1:41:40 - 1:52:33 - Group therapy & rebuilding marriage
1:52:33 - 1:58:15 - Why speak out now?
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I got my license to provide psychotherapy in 1982 and through this lens I was very impressed with Carl's "willful decision" to find out what was wrong with him. It takes a great deal of courage to walk that journey. The outcome is VERY impressive. I also respect his wife who had the courage and "brain power" along with "intuition" to know this guy was worth walking along side during his journey. The decision to share your newfound wisdom, which is "applied knowledge" only explains your heart motives to glorify God.
I went to his Church in NY during a time in my life I was completely lost. God always knows what he is doing. God gave you a purpose even in your darkness. Soo many of us battle our relationship with sin and our relationship with god. I respect Carl so much because his journey is the journey of every Christian to fall and get back up. To own it! To continue to have faith and to overcome no matter what! No one ever said Christians were perfect in human form. We are all here to heal, grow, love and change. When I was brought to his church and he came on stage I was amazed that I witnessed a pastor dressed in a “bad boys” clothes. Tattoo’s and leathers! God knew he was showing me that I was there to be inspired no matter my lifestyle choices.
Witnessing his journey of redemption, extreme honesty and willingness to expose his deepest trauma and truth is powerful. I’m humbled and honoured to watch his path. The world, the church needs this kind of honesty, compassion and grace.
This podcast is gold for those going through the cycle of addiction.
We were here when he fell, and we are here for the restoration. We thank God for lifting Carl's head and for healing him and his family. God makes all things beautiful in its time. The man even looks different. Real transformation has taken place.❤
1:30:10 This was so good. Thank you for your openness and vulnerability. I have watched a lot of Carl talking about this and I have to say that the detail you gave here was the best yet. Keep talking about those cycles and how it all works and the work you are doing to combat it. This made a lot make sense when it comes to this. This was beautiful..
Not enough tough questions. Host was letting pastor Karl lead the conversation. I would have wanted the host to ask harder questions.
LOVED this interview. Great questions I could hardly believe were asked and great responses from Carl. Good for you guys!
What a REFRESHING interview and great hope and life giving discussions. Just goes to show you how, if you were mistreated as a child, and there was no one to help you put the puzzle pieces together or help you deal with the trauma, how easily the enemy of our souls can can enact a stronghold that can take years to break. And to remind us all that we are always in process and thankfully, perfection is not on the table! Bravo, Carl!
To have a neutral person in a therapist/counselor that has no other motive but to help hold the mirror up and help us get to the healing we need to move forward and ultimately help others? Its priceless! Just priceless! Thank you and thank God for your honesty and integrity to share it! ❤
This interview is so good!! Like 10 times better than I expected
Every human has something that they don’t want to be in “the light” and to those who say that you have no sin, you are a lie… Thank you Pastor Carl for all that you’ve shared to be a hope and strength to all would choose to hear and learn from the work you all put in to get to a better level of victory, growth and especially faith… this process was no doubt difficult but necessary . Thank you for not quitting. Thank you for not giving up! Thank you❤❤❤❤❤❤
Such a wonderful testimony! Grateful for the Lentz family and their brave choice to share their experience, strength and hope!!.
Such a wonderful interview! Great questions and I appreciate the fact that you guys dug deep. This will help a lot of people.
You did a really good job on this interview. Thank you.
I was encouraged by the frankness of the conversation and found his description of the accountability he found in group therapy and the description of the cycles of sin helpful.
OK… I know that I’m only halfway through this interview, but where are the hard questions? Going back to the comment about the photo in Lohan shorts, his behavior at the time would match someone who’s already in involved in an extra marital affair. So I think that’s the point from Joe Rogan. Whether or not he took the photo on purpose or he was dressed like that on purpose, it’s not really the point. The point is that he was already doing things and dabbing in a lifestyle of sin. When we do that, send creeps in into every area of our life, the way we dress, the way we speak, the way we react…
the honesty!! its so heartbreaking but really brave and humble. When God works on people. ♥
So proud of the hard work Carl is doing!!!
Carl….I pray you have the courage to OPENLY discuss pornography. Women like me (who’s high profile Christian marriage was destroyed by it), know what you are dancing around it. And the men in the church DESPERATELY need your story. Quit dancing around it. It’s not gum at 7/11. So appreciate your miracle.
You are all fools. He is doing this apology tour because he wants to return to the puplit. Get a job Carl.
The fact that he has committed such acts, hiding behind the Church, lying to thousands, I can’t see
in him much remorse, for the woman & others he hurt.
King David didn’t use addiction problems…
Only God sees his heart.
I could not trust anything coming out of his mouth.
His body language speaks volumes & that hat is his
covering, can’t see his eyes…the eyes speak volumes.
This organization is all about $$$$$
He’s a real PERFORMER!
God knows it all.
You must be God then since you know so much 🤔
@@thabisilentleko3741 He isn’t God, he’s just stating the obvious. Carl Lentz has always been a performer. Someone who likes to have one foot in, one foot out. He bamboozled thousands and thousands of people, including his own family, because of his extreme egotistical personality.
@@SavoyPrimeable okay
Stop judging or for sure you will be judged.by God.
It's obvious his message is off @@SavoyPrimeable
Smooth speech, mega church talk, money money and no Bible teaching.
Full of it…..justice for Bieber
Please take your hat off so we can see your eyes & heart
One of the most sincere interviews of Carl, I guess👏
I'm a huge believer in the passages about not letting a novice pastor. I'm convinced that your marriage and children are your proving ground. Grow in character and godliness from 20 to 45 or so, then pastor if you're called.
Age/Experience doesn’t protect you from sin.
@GodsArmy00 I'm just addressing proving you can be a good husband and father before you shepherds the sheep like scrioture instructs.
I appreciate Carl’s work that he’s done for himself but I can’t stand that he acts like the fame wasn’t a game changer to him. He fed off it, was consumed by it, and sunk himself in it
I see what you’re saying but also he said that fame brings out the person you truly are. So he’s saying it brought out what was already there.
@@727elle I agree with that part. In his own podcast though he stated he didn’t care about the fame. He is a master manipulator, but I am also believing the best in him on a new platform
@@nathangeorge4201i haven’t listened to that yet. What is it called?
@@727elle his podcast is called Lights On.
I really wanted to watch this and see what happened to the pastor I followed back in NY. But even as today, I didn't hear you mention the Power of God into church. Church was built from your strategies and your plugs... that's so selfish and far beyond a heart that loves Jesus.
cry about it
I’m pretty sure he did mention Gods power and grace many many times
I remember seeing his IG bio line before the drama and it having a Biggie quote; ‘things to make you smile what numbers to dial’ and thinking (this guy isn’t a real Christian how are so many people following him) Glad that he’s found recovery.
It is such a blessing to have all your sins in front of everybody ON EARTH so God can take you with Him IN HEAVEN ❤.
Thank you. I grew up.
Great interview.
Disturbing how calculated and rehearsed Mr Lentz intro of his “journey” was.
Sir, if you were a pastor you knew the seriousness of what you had been doing. Unfortunately you were caught, I don’t how many years you would have kept it going?
I got as far as 45 minutes into this and there is not one mention of the word sin. It is not a disorder what he did but a sinful act. Not until Carl goes to the Bible and studies the Epistles from Paul on our battle with sin and walking in the Spirit, he will not overcome.
52:40 to 52:55 Carl said he would buy the guy beer if he comes to his church…Yooo that’s a red flag! He said, “how could you do that to get someone to come to church” and he said “I didn’t”…You just said you made the trade SMH 🚩🚩🚩 The gospel doesn’t teach us to enable! That’s why we need discipleship! That is NOT THE GOSPEL!
He just wanted to hang around Justin to look cool…..he’s no better than Diddy
He wasn’t founder of Hillsong. That was Brian Houston.. Carl was campus pastor of Hillsong NY.
He along with Joel founded the first American hillsong campus
@@Theredgatsby21 Hillsong was already an established church here in Australia. I agree they started Hillsong NY. Which was the first campus in America. But, it was considered a church plant.
@@curtisgriffin3573 agree however by American law they were considered founders even though it was just another church plant under hillsong
No humility. Not a word about Christ as the leader of the church. He would be nothing without Jesus leadership. He loves the attention and loves to hear himself talk.
Eye-opening, agree too as a pastor
...American culture too I guess to put self as builder/co-builder rep the project
...also, likely how some question was phrased eg "what about you that..."
He needed to understand the addiction cycle and childhood trauma from a psychological perspective. Christ can be a crutch to run away from it rather than deal with it. Maybe he’ll mention christ once he and Laura have healed.
Watch him go to joe Rogan and have one of the most refreshing conversation
that would be cool!!
Thanks for talking bout his life, church planting n church life as a whole
Thanks for talking bout lessons learned on public stage + unraveling, repair + among the famous who trusted + handling brokenness - damages
Good refining season for Hillsong
Thanks for co-pioneering in a megacity n blessed bountifully for a bit.
For modern/future ministers, maybe more deep cleansing before [going big in] ministry
...given our broken world + for lasting route
Love the B-side
Still very fashion focused in his $300 cap. I guess humility and taking accountability does not include humble dress. 🤔👎🏽
How do these people find their $300 hats and $175 sweat pants? Who's telling them what they need to wear to be cool? I've never heard of these brands till they wear them.
Also you can still be humble have have good taste
@@RCGWhoWhen the Bible describes the home of a Godly family, in this case speaking of the woman, it says in Prov 31: "She is not afraid of snow for her household, for all her household are clothed in scarlet.. She makes bed coverings for herself; her clothing is fine linen and purple."
Do you criticize them for being blessed with expensive clothes? What makes you feel that God wants His children in cheaply made clothes? Who decides what quality of clothes is acceptable or what price? Who decides that? Why do some Christians decide that Christians should be poor? Not too poor to give and bless others, it obviously takes money to bless and give; but apparently poor and have nothing themselves...
@@laurencortinas2018agreed!!
@@withorwithoutu100Right on! Agreed!
44:46 Your relationship with Justin Bieber was inappropriate full stop.
How so?
@@withorwithoutu100 Google images
He tries so hard to look/sound like the world so was anyone really surprised when he got caught acting like the world?
The shorts thing was smoke. Definitely there was fire.
He just can’t bear to not be in the limelight, the centre of attention - even if it’s talking about how he brought Jesus into disrepute.
45 years old, tight shirt, full jewelry, fashion hat. Get over your narcisism. Literally you think you get to criticize the derision and judgment. You deserve ten thousand times more.
You are literally judging Carl for what he’s wearing. Which has NOTHING to do with who he is. But it does show that you are very insecure and that the way he’s dressed is a trigger for you. Instead of spewing hate and judgement, maybe take this as an opportunity to look inside yourself and find out why Carl, his actions and his outfit are irritating you enough to leave a hateful comment.
In my opinion .. (& Everyone has one)!!..
I think he’s going through a mid-life Crisis!!.. plus being too comfortable in his position.. lying.. deceitful.. unfaithful!!.. I would think your parents would have been able to recognize your weaknesses & issues!! You said you were 20-23!! They could have gotten you HELP!!! 😭💔🙏🙏🙏
Taking you to a Counselor!!
Nothing changed, now it’s time to capitalize, using the strangles to help other people. “Coach”
My question is: How can you preach the gospel and not be changed?
He knows how to answer every question. Very well spoken.
Good thing he isn't living life to prove he has changed for YOU.
This is a ridiculous statement...
@withorwithoutu100 it's not ridiculous. It's accurate. He knows the correct answer for everything. He even says in the interview that he knows what to leave in and leave out.
@RCGWho he's talking about saying something that can be taken as click bait.......just admit you have hate for him and you're blinded by it. It's ok, the honesty won't hurt you.
@@jeremiahdorsey3413 lol
He's vain and he's still vein. He fed off the attention from women and 100% there was an abuse of his power.
Take the hat off, show your eyes so we can see your heart. You said on the view something about the gay community & you should have said that they need Jesus & turn from sin but you didn’t, you had an opportunity to tell the world about Gods grace.
Why do you go easy on this guy..Call him out on his narcissistic behaviour and ego..his shorts were ridiculous designed to show off his body and he probably thought he'd look great like a model (David Gandy in his underwear commercial) how did he think for one moment that he wouldn't be papped with Beiber. Ridiculous character
You have a critical spirit...
@RCGWho And what are you doing? Do you assume verbal and public criticisms of a fellow believer with whom you do not know personally God ordained, as if He made you the gatekeeper of His ministers who have sinned who have sinned? I feel sorry for anyone who is under your care...
@@RCGWho You didn't make a valid point to argue
@@RCGWho How so?
@RCGWho Let's see. This vid is of a man of God who was sinning, and God brought to a place of repentance. The man is now forward in accountability, surrendered healing, and with God using it to help others, in the same way the accounts in the Scriptures are used, with examples of all Israel and the forefathers.
Yet, here you are as a condemning judge and jury based on your assumptions of him. Therefore, who's the Troll?
He is still lying. This man is full of himself. Anytime someone don’t show you their eyes they are lying
I don't like how they're trying to act like fame is a burden and that people can't criticize famous people.people don't have to act like famous people are excused of their behavior because they're famous and somehow have extra burdens.nobody has to just not have an opinion on famous people. This interviewer should be just as concerned about the regular people who went to Carls church who got hurt or affected m.he seems that only the celebrities that went there matter
Jesus Bless you Carl.
This guy abused Bieber like Diddy did….POOR JUSTIN 😢
How do you know this?? Documentation Please!!🙏🙏🙏
“I’m a regular guy” 23:37
Brothers and Sisters. ☀️
Why is this man, wearing a Cap?
Well, heavy is the head that bares the Crown.
Ephesians 6. 🌱
How can you say that everything was truth what you were speaking if you were full of lies.. your source couldnt be Jesus back then even you knew Jesus is right.. I am so thankful that God’s grace is so big that he is healing your life and your family but I dont understand how you dont see that there was so much false teaching and false leadership.. I bless that all the people who were leaded wrong way would be healed and also praying that you get so close to Jesus that you dont need anything else.
you still have to dress appropriately regardless you dont get a pass. you were a pastor and its called Modesty...period. its gotta the same the for the body of Christ. we are help to be accountable. are we perfect, NO, but there's no need for us to be revealing in what we wear. people need to stop making excuses and feeling like you need to be seen by exploiting our bodies.
Is he okay? his face is so swollen?
He’s probably put on some weight
And perhaps he’s gained weight by stopping some unhealthy medications he was taking 😉
@@danahobelman1240 💯
What is the message of a $400 trucker hat?🤔
Is Rhude inspirational?
Or is this straight up advertising for something silly?
Carl. there is a HUGE difference between Godly repentance and worldly repentance, you still come across as being a god in your own mind. Your methods don’t have wisdom & true insight, you need to watch American Gospel (Christ Alone).
👍 💛
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Good luck guy
Sings???? Wow!! Man I can’t, too much for me.
God forgives, for sure but he is not suitable to continue in ministry. This will be always as a stumbling stone in his path, unfortunately. This can’t be undone. Someone having affairs over 5 months is absolutely horrible. How can someone think they have the Holy Spirit and God’s annoiting and keep sinning like this, sinning in his body which should be the temple of the Holy Spirit. God loves him, of course. God forgives him, yes! But he is nowhere near to be a suitable pastor of any church and everyone with true wisdom of God’s kingdom should be able to see this. So I hope he is not going to be any “pastor” to anybody. Accept that what he has done is very serious and stay now on the backstage wherever he may want to congregate. Dont pastor anybody, please. Dont be in front of people praying and laying hands on people. Please. This is a very serious character problem, runs deep. I am not a psychologist but it looks like some narcissistic personality disorder may also be one of his issues. God bless him. But hope he never will be “pastor” to someone. If what he was doing at this Hillsong church was ever pastoring, by the way. Another issue too…
““Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?” They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust. When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?” “No, Lord,” she said. And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.” ----------”
John 8:4-11 NLT
“Then the angel showed me Jeshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord. The Accuser, Satan, was there at the angel’s right hand, making accusations against Jeshua. And the Lord said to Satan, “I, the Lord, reject your accusations, Satan. Yes, the Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebukes you. This man is like a burning stick that has been snatched from the fire.” Jeshua’s clothing was filthy as he stood there before the angel. So the angel said to the others standing there, “Take off his filthy clothes.” And turning to Jeshua he said, “See, I have taken away your sins, and now I am giving you these fine new clothes.” Then I said, “They should also place a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean priestly turban on his head and dressed him in new clothes while the angel of the Lord stood by. Then the angel of the Lord spoke very solemnly to Jeshua and said, “This is what the Lord of Heaven’s Armies says: If you follow my ways and carefully serve me, then you will be given authority over my Temple and its courtyards. I will let you walk among these others standing here.”
Zechariah 3:1-7 NLT
I say that to say as Jesus said to the pharisees, let HE who is WITHOUT sin throw the first stone. should the Lord has deemed Carl as not guilty and called him into a position of authority as he did to Jeshua, silencing the accuser who kept pointing out his sins that the Lord said he’s forgiven him of and REJECTS every accusation by the evil one to condemn him and make him feel unworthy. you are speaking and going against God to say he should no longer be a pastor when God himself had acquitted him of his sins, who do YOU think you are to condemn him when God has saved and redeemed him??? check your heart, and pray the Lord grants you the same mercy and grace as you try to condemn his child and his chosen one. Moses was a murderer but did God say he was unworthy to free his people and be used as a leader ?? so again I ask, who do YOU think you are?? I pray the Lord gives you a renewed mind and deliver you from self righteousness.