El Toro Review, Six Flags Great Adventure | World's Best Wooden Roller Coaster or Overrated?
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- El Toro is an Intamin pre-fabricated wooden roller coaster at Six Flags Great Adventure in Jackson, New Jersey with some incredible ejector airtime. But does the ride as a whole live up to its lofty reputation?
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Legend has it that Ryan is still riding El Toro lecturing riders that a block zone is a section of ride that only one train may occupy. At the end of a block zone is a method to stop the train in case the block zone ahead is still occupied. This is the safety system that prevents roller coaster trains from colliding with one another
Lol
I’ve seen it, truly the scariest moment of my life
I appreciate your honest opinion and respect your right to it. Now here's mine! It's obvious that you do not like one of the best sections on the ride, the speed curves. The lateral forces are insane, especially if you know how to ride them, throwing your body from side to side. Also, who ever heard of a smooth bucking bull ride? The section after the camelbacks provide another blast of laterals that make this coaster stand out. Yes, El Toro is not for everybody. Neither is bull riding for everybody. But for those who appreciate what it is this is a world class ride like bull riding is a world class sport, not designed for the faint of heart. To give this ride a 9 is a major red flag for me to go check out ElToroRyan's top notch review of this coaster. It doesn't have to have non-stop excitement to be the best. Everything about the rides works together to make it the best ride I have ever ridden and that's not saying much since I haven't ridden Lightning Rod, or Voyage, or T Express, etc. I just got 4 rides this weekend past and it is just as good as it's ever been seeing I now know how to not get stapled . I move the seat belt to the side of my mid section and suck my stomach in when they go to staple me. In conclusion, I wish I rode this ride when it didn't slow down before the drop, but I enjoy the anticipation of one of the world's best drops. No disrespect intended here, but I think anything less than a 10 out of 10 here is a misrepresentation of how bonkers this ride truly is including the rough spots, and tame sections that I refer to as the calm before the storm! Thanks for your honest thoughts!
No problem. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I agree the best elements on El Toro are exceptional, but I'm not a fan of the calm before the storm parts. I have seen the El Toro Ryan review and it's excellent.
i find lightning rod a bit of a let down to still very good
@@timothywait9457 they ruined it. Took out the launch, let it get rough, and took down the trees. I haven't ridden it, but it's fallen way down my bucket list since it opened.
I feel like the final twister section is an underrated part of El Toro. Everyone says that the ride is over after the rolling thunder hill, but I honestly loved getting flung side to side during the twister section. It perfectly rounds out El Toro's forces with the insane negatives on the drop, camelbacks, and rolling thunder hill, and the bone crushing positives, with some great lateral forces right at the end.
I agree the twister section has some redeeming qualities, but I would have preferred more airtime.
I don't actually like the twister section being flung like that
Being a wood loving fan myself, I found el Toro to be the perfect ride. The elements you personally don’t love are elements I cherish. The entire ride feels like a complete thought vs a loud statement devoid of nuance.
That's fair!
i find it to be a very very good ride but a bit to short
Good review but I definitely feel like it deserves a respectful 10/10. It’s unlike any other coaster - and that first drop is truly awesome and insane (it’s a shame they slowed it down). Back seat ride all day long!
El Toro is my #1 bucket list coater in the US (At least until Iron Gwazi opens). My top 4 wooden coasters I hold in high regard- 1. Lightning Rod 2. Outlaw Run 3. The Voyage 4. GhostRider It will be interesting to see where El Toro compares to those 4 for me. I should be getting to ride it in 2021. Nice review!
Thanks! It definitely has some of the best elements.
Hands down the most intense airtime I’ve ever experienced, absolutely insane
Also can you review Fahrenheit at Hershey ?
I will be reviewing Fahrenheit in the next month.
Thank you, this is exactly what I expected from this review, u reviewed this coaster perfectly and also u have pretty much the same opinion as me on this ride, it has 4 world class airtime moments and that’s it, there is just so many dead spots and it feels a tad short, and I completely agree with ur statement on pacing, that’s very similarly to how I judge a coasters pacing as well, this is also why I prefer a ride like WickCy, yes the airtime might be a a bit weaker, but it’s still strong enough to satisfy me, but it has so much more airtime moments and no dead spots, I think ppl need to stop having tunnel vision when it comes to el toro and look at the whole package
I think it comes down to what you value. If you prioritize strength of airtime, El Toro is hard to beat. But I value pacing.
@@CanobieCoaster yeah if u want quality airtime el toro is perfect for u, and im glad i finally have found someone else who values pacing and non stop action the most
Ah I see speed lovers, respectable but also.
Millennium minetrain
El Toro has great speed, but I don't love the elements it does with that speed in the middle.
@@CanobieCoaster i agree
This is my number 7 overall and top wood coaster. I love the aggressive ride, the sustained airtime, and whenever a train darts in and out of the structure. I rode this last night when it was only 45 degrees. That was epic.
Nice!
This coaster is amazing. The middle section is a bit weak but the airtime at the start and the end makes up for it. I got to marathon it 22 times today
I love the 4 main airtime spots.
It has gotten a little rough in spots.....but you cannot say anything bad about the first drop or the rolling thunder hill. The speedy "slalom" section in the second half of the ride is super intense and crazy fun.
But that rolling thunder hill ......what an experience.
I like the first drop best.
Yeah rough as it has pothole issue I heard....
My #1 Wood nad #2 Overall. The quality of those elements is unparalleled for me (besides EGF) and I rather have a few excellent moments than numerous great elements.
Fair enough!
I've not ridden El Toro yet, but it must be at least somewhat awesome if it's considered to be Six Flags's best coaster even by people who don't think it's the world's best wooden coaster. I love the fact that you finally mentioned the B&M gigas's drops to this to compare it to. Even though I've never ridden any B&M hyper coaster (be them juniors or gigas) I'm tickled, since I always imagined Fury 325 and Orion's Drops to be 1st tier drops. I think I'd personally agree with which parts of El Toro are the best, especially as a back car enthusiast; the drop and 1st two camel backs experienced in the back car look like pure roller coaster heaven to me. Thanks for this review; I can only say I think I agree. Thanks for posting!
Glad you enjoyed it! El Toro is all about quality over quantity.
Can you do a video that compares all of the intamin prefabs (that you’ve ridden) in detail or reviewing all of them individually? :)
I haven't been on T-Express, but I am able to compare the others.
In terms of smoothness, what do you think about the ride?
Canobie Coaster would say:
When El Toro opened, I heard...
A) it was a notoriously rough ride
B) it was a glass smooth ride
C) it had some rough jolts but mostly smooth
B
Great review! I'm gonna go rewatch your top wooden coasters vid again to see where toro ranks cuz I forget.
It probably moved down a bit based on some recent rides on El Toro and the rides around it.
The turnaround got retracked and is now the smoothest part of the ride, it feels like a steel coaster
That's great to hear!
Canobie Coaster would say:
The coaster is defined by four elements. The first drop, the two camelbacks and the rolling thunder hill. Those four elements give incredible ejector airtime and they are some of the best moments on any coaster. The rest of the ride, the turnaround, the middle and the twister, is decent. I'm not a big fan of El Toro's...
A) smoothness
B) pacing
C) speed
D) power
B
I think the slower parts of the ride shouldn't take away from the experience. Yes the pacing is a bit slow in the middle, but I think that's actually good because it makes you think the ride is coming to an end before THROWING you out of your seat over the rolling thunder hill, which is something you'll probably not see coming if it's your first time riding. The very last few hills don't bother me because they're that, the last few hills. The only real flaw I agree with is that bumpy turnaround which is just a tad rough, but overall I don't think it's that bad. You just have to make sure to sit in the second to last row since it isn't a wheel car. Also, interestingly enough, the airtime is actually much stronger near the front of the train.
I prefer the ride in back for the first drop.
@@CanobieCoaster I perfer the drop in the back too, but I was shocked that the airtime was better near the front 💀
I think the camelbacks are stronger in the front but rolling Thunder in the back is crazy
I agree completely with everything you said here. I got my rides in June 2019, and I have been baffled ever since why people give it such extremely high praise, consistently in peoples' top 5 overall. Those rough spots and the dead spots really took away from the ride for me. Still, those 4 moments are so ridiculously amazing! Those are enough to land high on my list, but definitely not top 10. It's my 3rd favorite woodie behind Lightning Rod & Outlaw Run, but we'll see if Voyage tops it when I ride it this weekend. I like how you were able to compare with other prefabs that you've ridden.
I'll be at HoliWood Nights too so I'll see you there! That's a ride with no dead spots.
Very insightful review!
Thanks!
Canobie Coaster would say:
I'm giving this coaster a 9 out of 10. My favorite roller coasters are great from start to finish. In my opinion, that's where El Toro suffers. I'm not a big fan of El Toro's pacing. The ride hauls until the very end, I will not deny that, El Toro is a fast ride and it feels fast, but I consider pacing...
How many good elements a ride has in a row/how engaging it is.
It's shame Intamin doesn't make these anymore. I've never ridden an Intamin woodie however I'm hoping to get on El Toro next year. Intamin is really the king of sustained ejector airtime like you said, I've only been one big Intamin in Superman Escape and the hill into the headchopper is incredible! If Intamin had a chance to refine these coasters they'd honestly be better than any coaster ever, hands down. Just imagine a Voyage-like ride with El Toro airtime...
Superman has some very strong airtime as well.
@@CanobieCoaster the airtime is my favourite part, despite the launch!
Do you like El Toro or Jersey Devil more? I feel like JDC packs more and had more variety.
El Toro
Wonderful review, thank you.
My pleasure!
My fav memory was riding this at 11, the year it opened, a kid scared of roller coasters who weighed like maybe 50lbs wet. I was not in my seat practically the entire time from all that ejector airtime and just being a tiny kid. My dad thought he had to hold me in and I remember crying, thanks toro for childhood memories
Sounds awesome!
Hey, Canobie Coaster! I learned that El Toro's queue line was equipped with metal detectors at one time!
I saw a photo float around as an April Fool's joke a few years ago, but was it ever implemented.
Top bucket list ride for me in the US. The airtime looks unreal.
The 4 main hills deliver some of the best airtime of any hills.
Fair points on the pacing. No one ever talks about that. Everyone else gushes over the ride's best parts.
People just gloss over the middle usually.
This is exactly how I feel about el toro couldn't agree with you more
Glad I'm not the only one!
The back is where it's at. I can't believe how long the trains are.
The whip is insane on the drop.
Correct me if I’m wrong but is Colossos 194-196 feet tall because I looked on RCDB in the past and several countdown videos and they all said that but now it says 165 feet:
I don't recall Colossos being listed that high.
I know it's not a question related to this video, but have you greyed out on Nemesis? It hasn't happened to me and I've ridden it 30 or so times and i hear everybody saying they grey out on the helix
I do greyout in that downward helix.
Do you like or do you love all elements and pacing on el toro?
The pacing isn't as good as other elite rides.
Canobie Coaster would say:
El Toro is refined by four moments, the epic first drop, the two amazing camelbacks and the insane Rolling Thunder hill. Those four elements are as good as any coaster. The rest of the ride has no true standout elements. I'm giving this coaster a 9 out of 10. My favorite roller coasters are great from start to finish. In my opinion, that's where El Toro suffers. I'm not a big fan of El Toro's p_ _ _ _ _ .
The word starts with a P. Do you know which word is missing in the quote?
Pacing
Completely agree but I find those turns at the end to be pretty forceful
I agree they pack a punch, but I'd prefer a series of airtime hills myself.
Phoenix > El Toro
Im going down with you
Phoenix is much better.
When you went did they let you pick your row or did you have to ask for the second to back row
Typically they let you wait for any row. In 2020 due to covid, rows were assigned. But you could request the back car if it wasn't already taken.
For sustained fast sustained floater airtime you forgot to mention Diamondback at KI. IF you like Balder I'm sure you'd prefer T-Express!
T-Express is atop my bucket list since it combines what I love most about El Toro and Balder.
Your description of El Toro in this video is similar to my experience with the Pepsi Max Big One at Blackpool.
I really love the snappy transition's you race down at the bottom of the tall triangle hills, that along side the first drop. However the end of that ride that shows down does feel a little bit drawn out and wasted. Despite the imperfection it is still my Top Favourite UK coaster todate, mainly due to its size and length compared to everything else.
Big One has that epic drop but then it's more about the views.
@@CanobieCoaster I see your point, but to be fair you ride USA Coasters all the time, so of course the big one would feel tame by comparison.
But I still truly believe it's one of the best in the UK, and a favourite to some like myself.
Canobie Coaster would say:
El Toro is a very good wooden coaster and I think it's overrated. For me, El Toro is defined by four moments, the first drop, the two camelbacks and...
Rolling Thunder hill.
A rollercoaster in the US less accommodating to larger guests: Poltergeist at SFFT. Never seen so many people turned away.
That one is bad too!
What are the differences between an overrated coaster and an underrated coaster? What do you think?
Overrated gets too much love. Underrated doesn't get enough love.
I think many enthusiasts did give el Toro a 10 out of 10. What do you think?
9, the pacing isn't perfect.
How do you get the back row on el toro? Ima just asking.
During 2020 and early 2021 due to the pandemic, seating was assigned. Now you can choose your row again.
I wonder if El Toro is going to get the Son of Beast treatment now that there’s been a second accident within the last year or two… This has always been a bucket list coaster of mine. I will be so sad if it closes before I get a chance to ride, but I imagine RMC could do some impressive work with this layout. 👀
Not sure what will happen given the recent history of the ride and Six Flags.
It will not be closing. There is construction happening on it to fix it as we speak.
I love El toro. Personally i love the whole ride even the middle section i find the turnaround intense and aggressive and i love the sense of speed over the smaller speed hills you don't get much air over the hills before the rolling thunder hill and after the turnaround but they just work for some reason imo.
I agree the ride has a great sense of speed but I wish it did more with it in between the big airtime hills. Still a great ride!
what does this rank for you in your personal rankings?
Borderline top 10 wood coaster.
@@CanobieCoaster this or ghostrider?
Probably GhostRider by a slim amount. They're right next to each other.
I rode this in the very back in 2023 and after the rolling thunder hill I hit my head on the corner of the train
Ouch, sorry that happened.
Do you plan on going to korea for t express at all?
I hope to one day.
Maybe you'll be shocked but I'd take El Toro over Steel Vengeance any day
I can understand why people have that opinion for those 4 amazing moments.
@@CanobieCoaster This is why I still prefer Intamin over RMC. While RMCs are more fluent, Intamin coasters just feel crazier overall.
After watching this review on El Toro, I can say You’re opinions are really similar to Millennium Force Man.
Yes he felt similarly on this one. He doesn't value floater airtime as much as me though.
Incredible laterals and ejector airtime.
Incredible ejector
@@CanobieCoaster right
The rolling thunder hill is the best airtime hill. Even though I ride this coaster so much those S Bends are my least favorite parts of this coaster I find it quite bumpy whenever I ride it
The S-bends were smooth this year, but they have had bumps in the past.
I accept your opinion bro I give el Toro a 10 because of teh great airtime and intensity and it's my 2nd Favorite coaster in teh world only after kingda ka
Entirely fair.
Great adventure is my home park and I love Toro...but the trains/restraints really do suck. I am not even "big"...nowhere near 200 pounds or anything and I barely can fit. It's pretty absurd. Watching the amount of ppl are told they can't ride is depressing sometimes lol.
I wish this ride had more accomodating restraints to also help the operators.
@@CanobieCoaster yeah, that has to be the most awful job! You would have to embarrass people in front of everyone all day 😔
If anything I think El Toro is underrated but I respect your opinion.
I can totally see why someone would find this ride one of the best in the world with the strength of that airtime.
“Do I think El Toro is the world’s best wooden roller coaster?” No. I think it’s probably the world’s best coaster.
But I don’t need people to agree with my view, and I enjoyed your review. I don’t share your sense of the flaws in this ride, but I’ve heard these arguments before and think they’re reasonable (though, again, I don’t agree with them). Then came the video’s conclusions. 😳 It hurts to see a 9 ranking for such an obvious 10, but again given your views why would I be surprised? But then ... You think Balder is better than El Toro, and you think Toro is only SLIGHTLY better than Colossos! 😳 I loved Colossos and marathoned it, but it’s a mild ride of graceful floater air, smooth track, and cool theming. To say it’s close to the epic intensity of El Toro is just mind boggling to me.
Well, to each their own!
I agree El Toro is more intense than either of those two pre-fabs. I think the score at the end isn't as important as the justification. This is a ride I can definitely see others having as their favorite, but it's not quite that for me.
Canobie Coaster Are you a viewer of coaster-net? They share your views of Toro’s alleged flaws and then some!
Yes I've seen some of those videos. But everyone's different opinion is why it's worth experiencing the ride yourself.
Canobie Coaster Definitely.
Although it might be a little overrated in your words, I'd say it's still a very fun ride from the looks of it. So much so in fact that I don't understand why we don't have more of these at more parks.
I'd check out El Toro Ryan's review, but the upfront cost and longterm maintenance could be a reason.
I rode el toro in october, I thought it was pretty smooth. definitely smoother than green lantern
I rode El Toro several times this year (July, October, November). The bottom of the turnaround was the only really bumpy part.
@@CanobieCoaster It was running really slow with an empty train and I sat in the front, so it may not be accurate
I almost always rode in the back car (unless it was taken, in that case I requested as far back as I could).
Can’t wait to ride this in 2022 when it’s fully refurbished
Me neither!
The ride layout is amazing and the so is the airtime. However, I just rode this weekend and man I was disappointed about the smoothness. I'm sure it was incomparably good when it first opened and was smooth, but it could use a complete retracking. I will say that due to covid running emptier trains contributed but was definitely disappointed.
I've ridden empty trains in past years and don't recall a difference in the smoothness between a full train.
If the airtime is as wild as you say, I don't think I'll care if there are dead spots.
The airtime is legit.
I understand
Thanks!
Can you do a twisted colossus review?
I talk about it in my California coasters video, but I will at some point.
One of my favorites. I rather like the finale. Feels like a wild bull hence the name.
I definitely can appreciate why someone would love El Toro more than me.
What was the most overrated coaster you've ever ridden of all in the world?
I have a video on that.
I think some give el Toro a 10 out of 10
Many enthusiasts do.
Rode LRod instead basically lol.
Can't wait for it next year!
Lightning Rod is better (in my opinion).
it is over rated i prefer Colossus at Hydel Park and Voyage at holiday world but its still a very good ride i do not think Steel vengeance at ceder point is Overrated
I much prefer Voyage but I prefer this to Colossos by a slim margin.
Have you met ElToroRyan?
Yes, a few times.
What is your next vids on the channel
It's a surprise!
I NEED to ride this
It has some of the best airtime moments of any coaster.
Being chubby leaves no wiggle room for me on Toro. I need to be stapled to verify.
It really is an unaccommodating ride.
I'm admitting my fat, bu Skyrush is super comfy compared to this thing. Considering just skipping it in the future.
I am shocked of your thoughts and honestly I’m pretty disappointed. You should try and getting here to ride it more often you will probably appreciate it more
I've ridden it across several visits over the past decade. My thoughts haven't really changed.
From what I’ve seen, RMCs are totally unforgiving for larger guests!
El Toro is far worse. Not only does it not have a large margin, but even if you get the light, it can switch off if the train isn't immediately dispatched.
@@CanobieCoaster oh wow! I didn’t know that!
@@goonch7956 my sister who is sometimes boarderline on some Intamins and RMCs fit on El Toro and Millennium Force
why notten
The middle and end aren't elite.
As of nov 23 the base of the turnaround is the only bad spot
That part has routinely been the worst part in recent years.
In my opinion the should make El Toto into a hybrid. It would be better.
I don't mind the bumps El Toro has since Great Adventure is quick to fix them.
@@CanobieCoaster it not the bumps in my opinion it just that if El Toro was a hybrid it would probably be better then Steel Vengeance.
I'd rather Great Adventure use money on new rides.
@@CanobieCoaster that’s true as well. Great Adventure hasn’t had a real ride in a long time
Jersey Devil looks awesome though!
Not giving this a 10 is criminal.
I know it's not a popular opinion, but I do think it's overrated.
Do you have a instagram account?
I just made one, but I haven't started using it yet.
love t-express in korea
That one is on my bucket list.
El Toro in no way is overrated.
It depends what you like. If you prioritize extreme quality over quantity, it's as good as people say. I prefer a consistent ride start to finish.
Derail the ride.
Sadly
overrated???? THUMBS DOWN
I think it has 4 of the best airtime moments in the world, but I wish the rest of the ride was better than decent.
How dare you badmouth the great El Toro
I still gave it a 9!